[Cinderella] New Unit Megathread

[ornate nymph]

What actually is the appearance of Cindy’s decoy? I haven’t been able to figure it out from playing her.

[acoustic field]

Ah, the moving channel tactics.

[ornate nymph]

Rei’s was really obvious

[acoustic field]

It's a selfish barrier.

[exotic forum]

just her right shield I think

no one knows bc it looks the same regardless if it's there or not

[ornate nymph]

Not the hand mirror, right?

[exotic forum]

purple mirror is her beauty stacks

[ornate nymph]

Sigh, I have learned to appreciate the Narus.

[exotic forum]

yeah unless it's that barely visible blue glow between the gaps of her right shield, it's just her right shield

[dusty shuttle]

The splash is only 50. The projectile is 400

[exotic forum]

but that could just be the effects of the shield itself

[acoustic field]

My apologies. The best Electric weak team for Campaign is still Crown Cindy Alice RH FLEX.

[hoary valve]

How are you guys upgrading your gear? I normally go lvl 5/5/3/0 on attack scaling DPS

[exotic forum]

since the shield has blue lights

[ornate nymph]

I took anything that buffs HP up to OL5.

[acoustic field]

N or Z

Wait

Upside down N

Or Z

[acoustic field]

For Cindy 5 5 5 3

Or 5 5 5 0

For rouge likely 5 5 3 0 or 3 3 3 0 or 3 3 3 3

5 3 3 0

[elder pier]

if you view nikkepedia theres no glow

[acoustic field]

Probably 3 3 3 0

[elder pier]

i think the glow is decoy

[hoary valve]

Is last # glove or boots

I figured gloves would have lower priority since hp scaling but then again she still been benefits from atk

[oak cargo]

It should be 3 3 0 3

Arm is the third slot in order

Level what gives Hp simple

[shrewd bloom]

1 2
3 4 basically

Like reading a book

[fluid bone]

I only read the weeb kind

[shrewd bloom]

2 1
4 3

[fallen quartz]

I already suggest SU to make Decoy better, either update visual, or just add 'Decoy' to the Effect-in-use list.

and when Decoy die, remove the effect.

I swear to God, the decoy quality is so ass.

[tired elm]

do you guys think shift up employees are working rn

[acoustic field]

410 challenger boxes opened.

Have like 2700H of core dust rn.

[frigid pumice]

Buggyrella

[acoustic field]

Easily fixable.

[rugged lake]

How much ammo does cindy need?

In terms of bullet count

[fluid bone]

well 3shots/sec

and full burst is 10

so honestly you really only need 1 ammo on her

[rugged lake]

You don't want her to reload mid burst tho

So 2 lines for safety?

[oak cargo]

If u have 4 lines

She still going to reload mid burst

[rugged lake]

Is she?

[oak cargo]

At some point

U can not avoid it

[rugged lake]

I guess if she gets caught with less than 30 ammo at the start of fb

But more ammo makes it safer that she doesn't

[oak cargo]

If u want min max

Try to get her to shoot continously for 23-25 sec

[rugged lake]

But then again, I don't want to god roll all 4 pieces with ED/atk/ammo lol

[fluid bone]

1 ammo black line

[rugged lake]

Would cost too many rocks

[oak cargo]

Yea for little return

[fluid bone]

that's just min maxing

[oak cargo]

1-2 ammo good enough

[fluid bone]

yeah 1-2 is enough

[rugged lake]

Alright

[fluid bone]

so realistically 10/12 lines is all you need for optimal lines

[rugged lake]

Game gave me 3 3rd line ammo, but I guess I can just reroll one away

[fluid bone]

the last 2 can be crit rate/damage or charge damage if the bug actually stays

[rugged lake]

I'm thinking about rolling away the chest and helmet ammo. Gotta fish for ED/atk on 2nd/3rd line

Or I can lock all 3 third line ammo and fish

[fluid bone]

do 1 piece at a time

and see what rng gets you

[rugged lake]

Helmet first?

Since no third line

[fluid bone]

yeah helmet works

[rugged lake]

Ok will do it tomorrow once I get more rocks

[fluid bone]

can even do chest because it doesn't have anything else besides ammo

[rugged lake]

Yeah, but it's a third line ammo

[fluid bone]

I mean up to you

I would personally reroll at 1 cost

[rugged lake]

I suppose I don't need to accept it if nothing appears in line 3

[fluid bone]

and say fuck the 3rd line ammo

when you got 2 already

[rugged lake]

True

[strange quiver]

How much dmg does Cindy gain after hit rate fix

[wind cloak]

Should I take these slots?

[strange quiver]

Yeah I think 🤔

That's line 3

[fluid bone]

depends on your other pieces

if you don't have any max ammo lines yet then yeah change, lock and reroll for that ele/atk

otherwise keep and keep trying for ele/atk

[wind cloak]

I did get much better slots for the headpiece

[fluid bone]

yeah that's much better for helmet

[oak cargo]

Idk the math but
Before fix: took me 3 burst to destroy harvester head
After fix: 2 burst
Xlud-Cindy

[wind cloak]

I currently have 2 ele and I would have 2 max ammo slots if I were to take the one from the chest piece

[oak cargo]

[oak cargo]

Whats the context

[strange quiver]

Someone is arguing that Cindy gained 50% from 1st bug then losing 20% from the 2nd

[fluid bone]

well it really depends on how much rocks you wanna throw to keep fishing for better lines cause realistically the line 1 ele is much more valuable than just line 3 ammo and line 1 crit

[oak cargo]

I would buy if he tested on 50+ sample runs rather than 1 sample

Maybe i choked and loose 20% idk

[strange quiver]

Wasn't gatrix saying she lost 50%

[oak cargo]

I didnt track all his yap

Maybe he right idk

I just provided u my sample

[exotic forum]

I got cindy from my free pull today

[wind cloak]

Alrighty, got it

[exotic forum]

SU better fix her properly

[strange quiver]

Hmm

[strange quiver]

She must be better than c7 fully invested sbs, at zero investment

Otherwise maincord will riot

Wow lol too weak

[oak cargo]

He is so pumped you know she is ssss

[exotic forum]

what kind of testing did he do

with my acc they're tied in dmg

was it when she could still core hit reliably

[strange quiver]

I don't remember. It's cut from Livestream so we don't know

[wooden roost]

this guy was hyped throughout that entire video

typo in the "Note: there is no icreased AoE radius"

[crude oasis]

Would be nice if they just redid Cinderella mechanic

Actually hits what's being aimed at

Should've just done dual pulse lasers

[low iron]

it's this one at around 2:12:50 https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2289500236

seems like pre buff?

[crude oasis]

As in the straight line ones

[dusty shuttle]

as in actual lasers

[brave socket]

I pulled for beautiful curved laser so if they change that , refund

KEKW

[dusty shuttle]

like is shown in all of the cutscenes

[crude oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-laser-bitcoin-gif-20404710

Also ironically

In the final story 1 episode

It shows Anachiro firing straight laser beams

Cinderella's been corrupted to fire beautiful curving lasers

[gloomy quartz]

The big bad guy in game vs the big bad guy when you recruit him

[simple dock]

its lore accurate

when she was corrupted she just wanted violence

now that she's regained her senses, she's busy looking in the mirror while in combat

[modest patio]

Most perfect response

[prisma glade]

So what's the standing opinion on Cindy? Is she worth trying for multiple copies? Is she worth leaning into?

[prisma glade]

What's mlb, c7, and sbs?

😦

[broken berry]

max limit break

core +7

scarlet black shadow

[prisma glade]

In hindsight, the first two are very obvious now -_- Thanks.

[oak cargo]

@toxic wren damn dawg maybe write full word next time, not newbie friendly

[crude oasis]

Better expand on whale before newbies think this is a server for marine lifeforms

[prisma glade]

Lol, it's not that bad for me.

[oak cargo]

check the pins on these thread

they are there as general guidance

[crude oasis]

Just teasing, all good. Once upon a time I didn’t know what MLB was

[prisma glade]

Still haven't learned how to vibecheck new units and want to see what's worth the effort. Seems like Repu isn't vibing well from what the other megathread was saying.

[fluid bone]

major league baseball obviously

[broken berry]

yeah, having to hold charge makes her not auto friendly

[prisma glade]

That and I guess a lot of lack of clarity about how her shield functions.

[oak cargo]

just control other nikke, let cinderella free do what she wants

[oak cargo]

just there to buff her and sometime take damage, dont think too much

[broken berry]

best way to describe repu is budget crown

[prisma glade]

Alright. After I get a single copy of the new units, should I try to push for more Cindy copies? I assume I should save but idk.

[oak cargo]

prolly not

winter is coming

new year is coming

[prisma glade]

Lol. Works for me. Thanks everybody ❤️

[modest patio]

Who is repu?

[dusty shuttle]

wish for luck on the free pull

[toxic wren]

type beat

[dusty shuttle]

still 7/7/7 compared to 10/4/10?

[hasty juniper]

for whom ?

[prisma glade]

Repunzel

With a spelling error, lmao.

[torn raven]

I'm curious, did Cindy have the Harran bug day 1?

[tidal abyss]

cinderella showcase. lowest cp clear on 30-34 hard crystal chamber

[toxic wren]

Anis off burst?

[tidal abyss]

bursting sanis with rh b1 so she does not get shafted by liter's max ammo buff

recorded a special video for this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5nwYVEMzaQ

basically rh was just a 40s b1 on this one

[toxic wren]

[bronze estuary]

so level 427 is the minimum to beat hard crystal chamber?

inb4 755k cp is whale stats

[oak cargo]

421 is the floor for most
under 421 need high investment (core doll high% overload) to break below

this guy lowest sync but the core push his cp to acceptable level

the core show, but its also his overload and doll too

[bronze estuary]

ye he just needed core 7 nikkes

[oak cargo]

c7 only not enough, lots of peopel c7 but not showing, good ol there

[oak cargo]

is this mean my harran bug not active

i have to reroll the charge line away

[elder pier]

wdym?

[oak cargo]

i need 200% charge to trigger harran bug no?

i have 223%

[radiant dragon]

it's based on charge damage multiplier

if you get 223% charge, then it's burst damage x 2,23

[dusty shuttle]

Can I use Cinderella to break past 32-33 normal?

[oak cargo]

so i dont need to throw away the charge line to trigger it right?

[dusty shuttle]

Maybe I fully invest S1/S2 ein then reset her later

[signal hollow]

Wdym can't use
She's still actually good even when not utilizing the bug

[radiant dragon]

yep you don't need

[oak cargo]

thanks, damn i thought im crippled atm

[signal hollow]

Sigh

These players

They just saw big damage they pull
Now they panik when the big damage is part of a bug and afraid of fixing it

[oak cargo]

wym abuse now so u can lowball, after fix no more

asuka denial, im sorry dude

get turned on nerd

[dusty shuttle]

Did it with 3 blues

But then I failed on all of my golds so

[oak cargo]

put this on a frame and tell my children

doesnt count since he told you how

[heavy scaffold]

dem there is another bug that seems related on decoy

[molten oak]

Ele wise is the way

[exotic forum]

what bug

[heavy scaffold]

https://arca.live/b/nikketgv/120240089

[exotic forum]

so.... cindy decoy makes it so that the nikke to the right gets stunned even if shielded?

someone test it and pay attention to which nikkes got crown shield remaining

[molten oak]

Holy cow

More bugs

[exotic forum]

I'm thinkiing the decoy "taunt" makes the hit that goes to cindy hit the right person as well

so they take 2 hits and so stunned

[molten oak]

What the actual fuck shift up

[exotic forum]

check to see if cindy still has crown shield after the hit

this issue could also be the reason why p1 cindy always gets target skipped

enemy RLs aim at the decoy, but it's so close to p2 nikke that they just target p2 instead

[molten oak]

[oak cargo]

so a mirror that deflect the attack to other direction

working as intended

[heady hornet]

Intern-kun was too tired

[molten oak]

Supposedly it has to absorb the dmg

[radiant dragon]

told you

haha

i'm using her a lot since ch 29h

[heavy scaffold]

asuka is the goat thru hard 29~32

I didn't put rh on asuka team tho

[elder pier]

its very specific too only when cindy is in slot 2 or 4

[exotic forum]

has to do with back row then

ig front row it's fine

[modest nest]

it won't be just fire

[molten oak]

[modest nest]

I fail to see someone deals 80% of Alice dmg on 4.5 hits with bigger pierce can't perform outside Fire

defintely better than random Xlud

[crude oasis]

Ehh

Sadly I didn't find many opportunties to use Asuka

I won with RH/Modernia anyway if it's campaign, and if it's raid... maybe I just need better OLs

[elder pier]

its not a big deal then, cus rouge wants slot 2 or 4 anyways

[modest nest]

Jura pls

you are playing in 10% deficit I think lol

[modest nest]

probably because... the decoy triggers shield instead

P5 should have the shield but because decoy is P4.5

so the dmg breaks the shield before hitting P5

[acoustic field]

I heard someone used Cindy on CC

@tidal abyss u sure RH burst 3 not better

[heady osprey]

so why is cinderella good idk what a sbs dps unit is

[oak cargo]

he just set a new lowest sync better than other rh b3 and kienix still doubt rh b3 better

[acoustic field]

No

He set a new lower sync might be due to Cindy

His cindy is pretty cracked

4 ATK

3 ELE

[oak cargo]

yes and tha makes her better pick b3 than rh

[acoustic field]

Nono SANIS B3

[oak cargo]

based requirement for lowest sync clear gotta be cracked

[acoustic field]

He used RH B1 for SAnis B3

[oak cargo]

broooo

in the message u "deleted" ytd

you put cindy-sanis as best pair

[acoustic field]

Yes

[oak cargo]

[acoustic field]

BUT NOT LIKE THAT

Well I guess it kinda makes sense

But honestly

Wouldnt it be better to use Rouge instead or DWife

And line up RH burst with Cindy

[oak cargo]

his rouge might be not on dwife investment and made the cp lower

[heady osprey]

so she works with sanis

[broken berry]

Sbs means scarlet black shadow, so they're saying Cindy is equal to her

[fallen quartz]

Last week's revenue: NIKKE went down from 14 million to 8 million, all-region combined, dollars value.

[broken berry]

Source?

[acoustic field]

Against this boss per se I can argue that

Maybe SAnis burst isnt the best

[fallen quartz]

Sensor Tower Monthly Revenue Report

[broken berry]

Ah

[acoustic field]

Need kill rock faster

[fallen quartz]

Octorber

[heady osprey]

so i got SBS i dont think i ever built her correctly is reg scarlet or SBS better?

[acoustic field]

Sanis rock clear worse idk

[broken berry]

Depends

[acoustic field]

Maybe someone will clear 720k

Wait let me check

Mine

[fallen quartz]

Because the anniversary is at the end of October, hence it doesn't help to increase revenue.

[oak cargo]

you have bosses who are the most annoying and big obstacles in the game now, and Cindy-Anis claps them both, its settled

[acoustic field]

Also im still missing 2 stages of idk where they fucking are

[broken berry]

My understanding is rh is good for basically anything except pvp, scarlet is good at everything, and sbs is cracked for bossing iirc

[heady osprey]

so cindy is good aganist bosses

[acoustic field]

SEA still 768766

Crown Liter RH SAnis Scarlet

[broken berry]

Yeah, especially rn with her being bugged,

[acoustic field]

U better push to CH32 instantly before fix @tidal abyss

[dark lotus]

Any clue on how long till they "fix" the bug

[heady osprey]

shes bugged do you think theyll do a red hood and not fix the cindy bug

[acoustic field]

Version update likely

Next week

[acoustic field]

Nah

[broken berry]

It's possible, if they flat out fix the bug and do nothing else, all hell could break loose

[oak cargo]

he would need 501 or might be lucky and clap before 501

[acoustic field]

U can see his damage distribution

[oak cargo]

just smoke all the core box saved over a year

[oak cargo]

and?

[broken berry]

You.... Wanna elaborate on where I'm wrong?

[acoustic field]

Sanis is half of Cindy's damage

[oak cargo]

every electric is half cindy damage

ein half cindy damage

[fallen quartz]

You know, I should get hit rate as a bandaid patch to Cinder's current situation

[oak cargo]

any cindy combination other electric dps half

[fallen quartz]

bruh
Cinder btw

[acoustic field]

Idk I feel like its counterintuitive not to use RH burst 3

[fallen quartz]

So can I get rid of the second max ammo line? or keep it?
She have two lines btw.

[acoustic field]

Damn nice

I didnt say to remove sanis

But make her off burst

[oak cargo]

u might overate rh b3 there, the sanis there is not just for dps u know that, she buffs too

the synergy comes to top there

[acoustic field]

I didnt say remove her

But I said RH burst might be better

Cus it kills rock faster

[oak cargo]

why would u using sbs with rh when u can sbs alice

the synergy

[acoustic field]

Who tells u to use SBS?

SBS also cant clear rock

[oak cargo]

thats an example of synergy

man

[acoustic field]

No

[oak cargo]

too stoned for this

[acoustic field]

Ure missing the point

Sanis damage is trivial that it doesnt matter

If she bursts or not

Idk if there are better teams

Its a good team Im not lying

He broke record

[fallen quartz]

My Cinder have 60 max ammo

[acoustic field]

But my question is whether there are better teams

[fallen quartz]

[oak cargo]

i got your points

but i dont think its that big difference to be a concern

[fallen quartz]

With bastion, she have 90 max ammo in total

[acoustic field]

Imo it shud be big enough to make 730-740k possible

[oak cargo]

my question to this is who is that lucky guy who has that kinda team built and randomly cook to test it out

[acoustic field]

But with more ELE would make it too

We are in ELE era anyways

[oak cargo]

if u have an account that share same investment across everything u can see it, but its hard to find that person

[acoustic field]

Me my units are randomly cooked

I might end up using the same team lmao

[oak cargo]

no

use redhood

[fallen quartz]

Cinder's party skin... is extremely lewd, second lewdest skin for a public setting.

Semi-transparent, reveal butts and boobs, lewd underwears.

So far I have no problem with party dress skins, but I dislike Cinder's skin because it does not fit the setting of a formal party.

I don't mind lewd, I'm a dude after all.

[oak cargo]

the quality is just not there for a gacha skin, doro peak

[fallen quartz]

but there is a place and time for lewd, not at a formal party as the skin's theme suggests.

In fact, I prefer non-transparent, Cinder would look stunning.

Sorry for my complaint, can't do it on NIKKE-official server

(they would head hunt me)

[exotic forum]

non-transparent would make it easy skip

the fact that it's transparent and that you can see her undies makes me want to get it

and even then, base skin is pretty good already

so eh

I think the skin making her happy is another reason

base is like anachiro

[wheat vault]

sbs’ damage is through the stratosphere if the conditions allow it. when sbs was out, the solo raid boss was mat h. my c6 sbs with 70% ele lines dealt around 50% of my total solo raid damage at that time.

[dusty shuttle]

phew, now I can reset Cinderella back to a reasonable level to try and build up my Shotgun team

[wheat vault]

it was more about other teams not doing jack shit but sbs carried my ass at the time

[fallen quartz]

hard stages?

[wheat vault]

hard mode be like

[dusty shuttle]

lul, I wish

[oak cargo]

||next 2 bosses need cindy||

#1299716154125713549 message

[dusty shuttle]

surely it's not MC-defense level

bringer her back down to 7-7-7 so that maybe Tove can hit 9-4-4

[frigid pumice]

holy shit cant believe it

100% Ele cindy

and 2 Ammo

no attack tho...

the lines are soo strong she placed 2nd lmao no coppies as well

[fallen quartz]

When SAnis's squirt have better homing aim than Cinder's basic attack

[oak cargo]

u got lower clear ?

[fallen quartz]

There is a new enemy in recent chapter, it's a ball that moving fast at random location.

[oak cargo]

clapped

[fallen quartz]

I laughed when I saw SAnis's water chase that thing

and it hit

[oak cargo]

global > NA confirmed

too easy

[acoustic field]

Nah he knows he wants to break QTE

But cannot but its not as if its game breaking

Of course

[oak cargo]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/352975182065041410/1111202186274283610/wok.gif

[acoustic field]

38%+ 1% matters

[simple dock]

i thought you passed hard MC

[toxic wren]

wait so
i heard cinderella's first aoe doesnt get full burst buffs

does she get her skill 1 buff?

[crude oasis]

Isn't it lovely when I can take a hit from "hard hitting" enemies and the character survives

[crude oasis]

Aren't you jumping the gun here? There are chapters 33 and 34, right?

[dusty shuttle]

And? Are they electric weak?

[rain path]

Jesus cindy 0mlb fk she is too strong

0mlb

[modest nest]

MLB her to gain 6% more dps

sound cute right

[heavy scaffold]

or c7 her to gain 20% more

[lavish bridge]

20% base stat isnt 20% more dps

[heavy scaffold]

[icy tree]

Would getting max ammo on the first line be alright for Cinderella? I didn't get 2nd or 3rd line, just only the first one?

I probably need to reroll it but it could work for the meantime

[strange quiver]

Dupe only gives you 2% stats increase

[strange quiver]

Do you have 4 ele 4 atk too?

[icy tree]

Not at the moment, not enough blue crystals

[crude oasis]

Stages are wind-weak, bosses are electric-weak

[hasty juniper]

which on is best for ?

why ?

[strange quiver]

Because res provides reload speed and bas provides ammo refund

RL has long reload time so it's vital

There's also a time needed for Cindy to wind up just like mg, hence, you'd rather reduce reload occasions with bastion

All DPSs want either of these two

[hasty juniper]

that's a good thing but ı realized that most of chars are using this cube

[strange quiver]

Yes

You can swap

It's not a problem

[hasty juniper]

ı dont have much of them ı entered sector 8 just now 😄

[strange quiver]

Slot count only matter for pvp

In raid you can just swap

[hasty juniper]

which raid ,

[strange quiver]

Solo raid

[hasty juniper]

is it on game now or is it a event ?

[strange quiver]

It's an event that happens regularly

This time it's postponed

Because of technical issue (might be related to Cindy bug)

Probably the only game mode that carries the game

[nimble crypt]

bronchus: oh no you don't

but rouge+blanc solves this

[tidal abyss]

rh b3 is not better. in fact it does not help kill parts faster. if you try to do the pierce trick, the speed gets even slower
also rh b3 = you have only 1 rh b1 for the whole fight
rh b1 is just too important for this team. it helps pump sanis and cindy's dmg like mad
also i paired rh with sanis because, besides that sanis doesn't get shafted by liter, that helped me to barely be able to kill 3 parts. my 40% atk 56% ele cindy does not kill parts faster than sanis btw. sanis burst with extra ele was the lifeline for me

btw the closest thing to this team for me is crown liter ein sanis scarlet comp, which is able to kill 5 parts, but leaves the boss with 60x health bars, since my cp is just too low

also tested crown liter cindy sanis ein/scarlet. couldn't kill more than 2 parts. also manualling is such a pain

[molten oak]

How many days to fix this character? They didn't stop her banner

So people are still pulling and building her

Will SU let this buff cross the whole weekend?

[brave socket]

They removed solo raid already. The people who know know and the people who don't know doubt that they will notice anyways

[heavy scaffold]

https://m.dcinside.com/board/gov/2150659
her aa is now almost all blocked when landeater fire balls

[brave socket]

It is a complex issue probably

Or maybe it has more to do about what they will do if they fix it

[molten oak]

Maybe they'll rework her entire kit

[dusky niche]

S2 is mid
Assuming S1 is Lv.10 and S2 is fully stacked, it will practically "change" the S1's ATK buff as below
(Also assuming there is no other max HP buffs)
Original = 2.71%
Lvl1 = 3.028696%
Lvl4 = 3.10024%
Lvl5 = 3.126256%
Lvl6 = 3.142516%
Lvl7 = 3.158776%
Lvl10 = 3.23032%

I think 10/5/10 is a good stopping point

[molten oak]

Honestly a patch over a patch doesn't help

[brave socket]

That will be way worse than just fixing the bug

It would be a way bigger scam

Bug fixing is reasonable for a lot of people because you're leaving her as advertised

Only the people looking at calcs and shit would be "scammed" right now

[heavy scaffold]

this entire issue is caused because her aa is flexible projectiles

should’ve made it a straight laser beam

[brave socket]

But that wouldn't be beautiful

[heavy scaffold]

nah look at her burst it’s more beautiful

[brave socket]

The bust is better

[molten oak]

If her numbers remain I don't think is a problem

[brave socket]

What numbers remain xdd , the bugged numbers ?

No need to rework entire kit tho

[molten oak]

No, how she was intended

Not day 1 bug or day 2

how her kit pre cook

[brave socket]

Just fix bug then and shes done

Lol

[acoustic field]

10 7 10 is ok

[molten oak]

Yeah this new weapon caused a lot of troubles

[outer sorrel]

so how important are max HP buffing Nikkes for cindy?

Like Rouge

[molten oak]

Well max HP buff the first part of her S1

So is really important

[dusky niche]

S2 max HP buff doesn't benefit from any MAX HP buffs (especially Rogue's burst, which is huge) - Edited
10/7/10 is probably a good point though

[rain path]

Results after afk 0mlb: full geared and dolled

[pliant plover]

then why is her damage lower with a fully build liter compared to a rouge with lvl 0 gear

[dusky niche]

?

[pliant plover]

you said her s2 doesn't benefit from other units max hp buffs

[dusky niche]

yes

[pliant plover]

so why is a mid rouge resulting in more dmg then a fully build liter

[dusky niche]

because of S1

[lavish bridge]

S2 is a flat damage up
and it's small

[pliant plover]

he wrote s2 attack buff, thats what confused me

the s2 buffs the max hp, the s1 is the atk buff

yeah now it makes sense lol

[dusky niche]

I removed the atk part

[marble glacier]

god cinderellas lasers are so cancer to use in campaign when its hitting either nothing or hitting things on the side lol

[fallen quartz]

#1301398523882901550 message

[modest nest]

did you calculate by dividing the lv 5 atk to lv 4?

the gain per lv like that is called margin gain, not linear gain.

and of course, the higher the base, the lower margin gain

[dusky niche]

the S2's Max hp values are inconsistent
The below is the raw values
Raw value :
lvl3 : 1.13%
lvl4 : 1.2%
lvl5 : 1.28%
lvl6 : 1.33%
lvl7 : 1.38%

[modest nest]

eh

lmao the gain

0.9%

0.6%

[dusky niche]

I got the data from this page
https://nikke-goddess-of-victory-international.fandom.com/wiki/Cinderella

[modest nest]

0.7%

yeah I just check

[molten oak]

10/1/10 take or leave

[dusky niche]

I can feel they were developing her until the last minute

[simple dock]

use too much time to cook minigame

not enough time on the unit

[gloomy quartz]

Mini game is mid

unit is mid-er

[maiden thicket]

Mid Anni

I want refund

[gloomy quartz]

well at least new campaign chapters have some nice soundtracks

[maiden thicket]

Give me back 400 pulls and 100 rocks

This game is a scam

[gloomy quartz]

Well whale voices carry more weight than us minnows, complain to them more pls

I have a skill reset ticket leftover for when the Cindi nerf hammer hits

Gonna put all them towards grave

[heavy scaffold]

the only things not mid are art and bgm

[gloomy quartz]

Story is decent too. Compared to nikke standards they’ve gotten better.

[heavy scaffold]

and voice

[gloomy quartz]

sir I have no money left to sue you

[maiden thicket]

I just read a theory about mini game

Not gonna spoil but it's so dark

[gloomy quartz]

Yea

They cooked with the story

[heavy scaffold]

now I want twins as ny

[simple dock]

Cindy's VA is great too

especially EN

she absolutely knock it out of the park

i mean who doesn't sound annoying in event map

[heavy scaffold]

isn’t en voice non existent?

[simple dock]

remember Crown ?

can't believe i spent 300 pulls for this fraud

Cindy i mean

[fallen quartz]

wait, you wasted 300 pulls for a copy?!

[simple dock]

3 copy

[fallen quartz]

and you can't break CC?

skill issue

[simple dock]

she cant hit horn for shit

misses

i noped her out of the team real quick

[fallen quartz]

not nerf though, bug give her extra juice

[heavy scaffold]

I wasted 500 pulls for single copy

[simple dock]

i wouldn't pull more than 1 copy if her dmg is not comparable to sbs

i mean without bug

[gloomy quartz]

https://tenor.com/view/digging-for-diamonds-never-give-up-gamble-gambling-keep-gambling-gif-15498081004227486559

[heavy scaffold]

cinder is sbs level dps but her dedicated team isn’t

[simple dock]

oh yeah true

sbs has Alice

[gloomy quartz]

Cindy needs grave no?

[simple dock]

electric support is kinda wack too

[fallen quartz]

for real?

[simple dock]

Grave is for fire unit

[heavy scaffold]

I don’t believe it’s real

but

[fallen quartz]

I stop at one copy

[heavy scaffold]

no

[fallen quartz]

waiting for the patch fix

[simple dock]

500 pulls but did you get anything with it ?

[fallen quartz]

because I want to see the real DPS of Cinder

[simple dock]

like extra pilgrim bodies

[heavy scaffold]

got 14 SSR and one of them was cinder

[maiden thicket]

Iron and Electric are competing to be strongest elemental now

[heavy scaffold]

1% is a great lie

[simple dock]

i got 2 copies of mod with the 300 pulls

so 4 pilgrims and some random ssr in 300 pulls

5

not too bad

[gloomy quartz]

Grave is the real anni pilgrim then

[simple dock]

i firmly believe 1 copy in 100 pull is kinda lucky already in pilgrim banner

[gloomy quartz]

Should’ve got a gacha skin dress smh

[simple dock]

yeah Grave is a 1 copy unit

[heavy scaffold]

grave could be put in sbs team so crown goes to cinder

[simple dock]

supporter with 0 caster atk skill, also not used much in campaign

[maiden thicket]

Mostly Grave will stick to SW comp

And Indi AI

[simple dock]

Crown is worth the extra dupe cuz she's not removable from campaign

i mean you can use anything in low clearing so it's not really a problem

[oak cargo]

3rd title next week?

[maiden thicket]

Maybe

If my Alice can carry Asuka

She's lb0 and shit rolls

[simple dock]

Asuka is the real first good collab unit

she's here to stay

[maiden thicket]

Need to find last piece to fit that comp

Mod with no ammo supply is painful

And cant get pierce dmg buff from Grave

[gloomy quartz]

I don’t get it. They cooked so hard with red hood (post buff) why did they screw this one up so bad

[maiden thicket]

She has a new mechanic

[gloomy quartz]

we just wanna see big numbers

[maiden thicket]

They have to bring something new to keep players hype

If everything new is old with just big numbers then it's boring

RH was the first one who can burst 1-2-3

[gloomy quartz]

true. Her missiles should have tracking

[maiden thicket]

That made the 1st Anni

[gloomy quartz]

Then it would’ve been bonkers

[maiden thicket]

And you can see her first charge even auto release while u still hold left click

That's the 1st new thing

2nd new thing is rapid fire RL

The other are just big numbers

[oak cargo]

[tidal abyss]

making globros stand proud

[molten oak]

Elemental niche dps

[oak cargo]

https://tenor.com/view/bugschampion-gif-3330389770219292185

[wooden roost]

Not sure if this has been posted

https://discord.com/channels/946719263866101821/1302207584102645760

New bug with Cindy

Now it’s positioning and her decoys not working and making units take double damage

[strange quiver]

Is this feature

They should open beta test server

[strange quiver]

Spoil now

[modest nest]

seems like it's a 3D positioning problem

[strange quiver]

Cinderbug

Maybe all these bugs are canon

They wanna depict a corrupted Cindy.

[modest nest]

let's create an unique weapon

after a few days

may be we shouldn't

[strange quiver]

Then they will release a new form for her, fix all bug and double her dmg

https://youtu.be/N_rvkp1uZCc?si=4Z8-HvxF6NhtD0gp

[fallen quartz]

Aha, I knew it.

Yesterday I said something about Crystal Chambers's weird behavior toward Cinder.

[wooden roost]

[strange quiver]

Buggerella

[topaz rampart]

cindy will come back with whole new kit

[wooden roost]

With new bugs!

[deft obsidian]

I think my brain will explode if her current damage is doubled

[ripe haven]

now that Cinderella is out i have no space for summer anis

[plucky rampart]

Now its positioning problem? Lol and this position thing kinda new type of buff too with the release of rouge now its broke too
Why every new thing broke

[fallen quartz]

https://discord.com/channels/946719263866101821/1270996891269599312

I just realize this topic exists

[deft obsidian]

It was a positioning problem from the start to a degree

The weird curved path of the missilies was obviously going to cause problems

The projectile speed buff made that worse at close ranges

[frigid pumice]

i know they trying out something but clearly SU nvr test the bullet propperly

but tbh if it shoots straight it kinda the same

[fallen quartz]

Like I said last night, just turn her beams into lasers, lore accurate and simple, fix all bugs

Lapplace's lasers, see

make 100% sense

[deft obsidian]

Yup

[frigid pumice]

i think they really want to show her curved beam like the story

and yea straight laser

fires like RH ish

[potent sapphire]

Cinderella too curvy

bends lasers

[brave socket]

so many people are wrong as heck lmao

[modest nest]

yeah people didn't know about it, that was seperate bug

[brave socket]

ik but many are using this as the argument "they intended for cinderella to be so strong and now they're backing out of it"

which is moronic at the least lmao

[deft obsidian]

The missilies not consistently hitting targets isn't even technically a bug. It's a bad design feature

The missilies are arcing as intended. The fact that they may not appropriately hit where intended is an unfortunate consequence when dealing with a moving target or awkward angles

[potent sapphire]

devs forgot game is 3d

[deft obsidian]

However, obviously hitting Mirror Container and dealing no damage was definitely a bug

And that's what they did successfully fix

iirc Warframe has a weapon with a similar type of "fanning out" missile pattern and is similarly bad

[simple dock]

is that why my Cindy do jack shit against MC ?

hit the core with burst, seems to did nothing

[deft obsidian]

Hm? Cindy vs MC is insane now

Pre-bugfix she was garbage

[simple dock]

did we get a patch ?

[deft obsidian]

Yes

The fix initial bug and broke her further

1. Released with a bug that causes projectiles to simply disappear without doing damage (namely vs MC)
2. Bugfix that fixes first bug and buffed her projectile speed and AoE radius. Projectile arc awkwardness intensifies. Cindy also acquries Harran bug.
3. Solo Raid temporarily cancelled.
4. Now.

[simple dock]

thanks

[elder pier]

Pretty sure harran charge bug was always there.

I doubt just increasing the projectile size and speed triggered that bug.

[deft obsidian]

It's possible, but remember that Alice randomly got the bug from nothing in particular

[brave socket]

im pretty sure we would have known it if it was the case

there's pretty sweaty people with the calcs out there

the bug only popped out after the bug fix happened

it's actually easy for what you said to happen

they didnt increase or whatever they probably copy pasted a code

that they thought it would fix the problem

and it did , but that code brought another problem

the proof is that there was this exact problem happening with a nikke in the past

probably cinderella mechanic has something to do with that or whatever

[fallen quartz]

yeah, SU was being lazy for reusing codes, on a unique design, that needed new codes to function.

[brave socket]

they probably need to hire testers next time

or test it themselves and take longer to fix it

[deft obsidian]

They've needed to hire testers since the game began

[torn raven]

People forgetting the game launched VERY buggy

I remember Ludmila was broken for months

[fallen quartz]

https://www.reddit.com/r/NikkeMobile/comments/1ghoene/as_today_our_pull_money_have_taken_flight/

So this is where our money went into, instead of fixing Cinder.

[willow sierra]

Bugerella

[elder pier]

https://www.youtube.com/live/9KKfMrC0nj4?si=r84XJ6ZkJ7TBnKvc

Sky stream on oct 30, so before the hotfix.

Using rouge and blanc, to buff cindy with 10/10/10 skills he hit over 10 mil per burst hit

Its impossible with these stats unless the charge bug was there.

[toxic wren]

thanks

that is

something i wanted to go over

on sky stream

thx for going over the hassle

[brave socket]

ok so apparently no one knew except skyjlv , interesting

whatever , if it's doing more damage than the description says its a bug , it's not "they wanted to release her powerful but then backed out" lol

[toxic wren]

Literally everyone knew apparently but us

[heady hornet]

time to retire ncd

[brave socket]

idk I am on this discord and I was reading it all the time

and I only saw the maincord feedback post after the bugfix

[toxic wren]

That's what I'm saying lmfao everyone but is knew about it

[brave socket]

oh ok ok

[toxic wren]

On 2nd day start the tw guy shared it with us and we found out

I wonder how timaeuss etc found out tho

[brave socket]

hmm wonder why they didnt close the gacha , maybe it's too late

[toxic wren]

Eh we've had worse bugs

Alice had 1 million % charge % bug

[brave socket]

for us maybe , for them ?

[elder pier]

Wait, sky knew on day 1?

I just skimmed thru the stream to get the stats

[brave socket]

they are going to have to shell out something to appease the anger

[toxic wren]

He didn't

[brave socket]

I personally dont care

but it's true people will rage

wait so if it was active from day 1 then the numbers she was doing with aim bug were accounting ult being bugged huh

so they actually do have to give some increased numbers then

well idk what numbers she will have with everything fixed

maybe not

[heady hornet]

they cooked to hard

but didnt' give the intern enoug hsleep

so she's bugerella

[wheat vault]

so beautifulbugful

[heavy scaffold]

https://arca.live/b/nikketgv/120282711?mode=best&p=1
is she firing a potato gun?

[modest nest]

depend on the deficit

Defender has 33% lower ATK means they will likely trigger 1 dmg per hit 33% sooner than normal Attacker

also the accuracy is ehh

[elder pier]

Its lore accurate tho, she only has 1 eye

[modest nest]

Lore accurate: she kills everyone

[wheat vault]

lore accurate: she just woke up from a century of sleep

[nimble crypt]

soline ptsd

[plucky rampart]

This is true tho she redirect her damage to ally in the next position right lol
Ah but yea cannot kill everyone

[sand trellis]

strange question, but do attack speed buffs (rare as they are) work on cinderella?

or are her shots animation locked

[elder pier]

Theres no atk spd buff that can be applied to cindy

[molten oak]

She's so powerful rn

More days will pass more days I'll miss this monster

[modest nest]

can't wait to see them destroy Cindy

[safe lotus]

https://tenor.com/view/godfather-massacre-sad-gif-16810633

[simple dock]

if that's the case i want a refund

[sand mesa]

I've seen people say "I paid for her that way"

No you didn't, your dumbass didn't know about the bug. You paid for what was shown in her kit which the bug wasn't.

People are really desperate to keep this bug for a unit that will still be better than every dps in the game except rh and sbs

[molten oak]

Guys remember is SU, if Japan whales tell them to keep her dmg without bugs they obey

[gloomy quartz]

What are the Japanese whales saying

[molten oak]

idk

[toxic wren]

I paid for her dupes tho what now

[potent sapphire]

I tried the free version in the shooting range

was mislead

refund pls

[shrewd bloom]

Holy, actually lucky rolls, just missing one 3rd liner for her and I already got a decent max ammo one.

[molten oak]

Holy cow

Not bad

The way is long for you but is ok

[shrewd bloom]

Considering I have only used 6 rocks for her, yes, that is good

[molten oak]

I've used 4 rocks 90 ele

[shrewd bloom]

[molten oak]

I was in shock when it happened

Problem is no attack lines

I can fix 2 lines

[shrewd bloom]

I will try to get ele on all pieces today with the rocks I get from double kraken

[shrewd bloom]

No 3rd liners?

[molten oak]

Weird but I'm fixing sanis rn

[molten oak]

No, only X2 line 2

[shrewd bloom]

Shit, that hurts even more then

[molten oak]

nah because I already have x100 ammo

In different lines

So I just need atk actually

And if possible reroll for more ele

to reach 100+

[tight prism]

actually people pay cause they test her in union training and see the numbers she puts out

[weary cedar]

Xi Feng Hao Chi

[shrewd bloom]

That's Chinese

[weary cedar]

[fallen quartz]

[shrewd bloom]

You could always just lock the ele and pray to get more atk, but it will hurt your rocks a ton

[weary cedar]

Does hit rate fix her missed aim before the fix happened?

[fallen quartz]

https://tenor.com/view/haha-so-funny-gif-27253208

RL doesn't get affected by the hit rate.

[weary cedar]

Oh, i thought it gets affected

Hmm. Where is her placement will be once all of her bugs (hopefully) fixed? Below SBS or above her?

[tight prism]

they'll havve to competsate everyone with more then just a multi

if they don't rebuff her damage numbers

[weary cedar]

Do you remember getting compansated yesterday for her fix? Or RH's rebuff dmg numbers?

Yeah, I don't

[tight prism]

i wasn't around for redhood but didn't they buff her damage?

and did they fix cinderella already?

[toxic wren]

Yes

Anniv .5: undertuned
Anniv 1: needs buff
Anniv 1.5: overtuned
Anniv 2: gets nerfed
Anniv 2.5: stay tuned
Anniv 3: stay tuned

[weary cedar]

Anniv 3: cancel release

Red Shoes anniv 2.5 and she gonna blow your computer

[toxic wren]

Well at least we can rest assured that new year pilgrim will be batshit broken amirite

[heady hornet]

New years: broken

[fallen quartz]

Years: New broken

[gloomy quartz]

Broken as in no amount of cope can fix her

[molten oak]

oh wait these are my Cindy stats rn

I've got 1 3rd ele line

[shrewd bloom]

2 3rd lines

[molten oak]

[shrewd bloom]

[trail vigil]

i need 1 ele line

burned 20 rocks on it

still blank

[copper ice]

Showing off i see?

I got you

[shrewd bloom]

[copper ice]

Gimme a sec

[trail vigil]

showing off my bad luck

[copper ice]

less than 10 rocks

[rancid siren]

so....what do i actually use cinderella in ?

[molten oak]

easy to catch 1 ammo line in right bottom

[copper ice]

depends on my luck

[molten oak]

let's go gamble

!!!

[copper ice]

i dont have many rocks right now

[shrewd bloom]

Most of us don't

[deft obsidian]

ez Mirror Container

[shrewd bloom]

[molten oak]

I need to work in rouge

7/4/4 rn

[simple dock]

Million dollar question

[molten oak]

[rancid siren]

yeah i mainly play campaign type content and interception so im nott sure

[simple dock]

^ same here

All I do

And level is only 198 for all units

[shrewd bloom]

Yeah. I resetted Cindy to 10/4/10 and got her to 10/4/4, will probably work on her burst next

[molten oak]

10/7/10

[simple dock]

You can reset skills?

[deft obsidian]

Limited time windows, yea

[simple dock]

Investments?

[shrewd bloom]

Yes

[molten oak]

frank we need to clear UR in one cindy burst

[simple dock]

Shit how

[deft obsidian]

Requires an item they give in limited supply

[molten oak]

[simple dock]

Ohh

[deft obsidian]

Look at your skills on a Nikke

and you'll see above them a Reset Skills button with a listed amount of days/hours left you can do it

[simple dock]

OOOOH NICE

[molten oak]

yeah reset rh

[shrewd bloom]

You should have gotten 3 reset

[molten oak]

brick your account

[simple dock]

https://tenor.com/view/pat-cat-pat-pat-gif-25250101

[trail vigil]

[shrewd bloom]

I want to get Cindy ready for the SR

If it gets pushed by 2 weeks... I got the chance of getting treasure for Exia

Could be my first top 200. But I would need to purchase the mats to level up exia's skills

[simple dock]

Thank you you guys

[simple dock]

Facts

[copper ice]

it will be real scummy if they fix cindy's bug after her banner.

only choice is buff her kit

[mystic pulsar]

They'll prolly "fix" the bug then up the numbers to make up for it

[copper ice]

cindy and harran are different. Cindy can be summon, harran cannot

thats why no complain back then

through limited or special*

[mystic pulsar]

SU isn't scummy they'll find a way

[bronze estuary]

https://youtu.be/N_rvkp1uZCc?si=RKmzFp4I-uuiBQUU

Is Cindy bugged again?

After the "fix" she's not critting anymore on core apparently, not as consistent as before

[tight prism]

she's been bugged since release, still waiting to see how shift up nerfs her

[maiden thicket]

it's not critting on core

She just can't land a core hit in close range

Because of boss's core position and explode range from Cindy's normal atk

The core of that boss is deeper in side, which is covered by its body

[bronze estuary]

This explains ig

Cindy fix when

[maiden thicket]

Also SR closed cause of Cindy's Harran bug

If you play from first days of the game you will know what is Harran bug

[tight prism]

cindy fix might happen when they update for graves banner i guess? who the hell knows

[maiden thicket]

Currently there're kinda many bugs, just give them time

[molten oak]

[maiden thicket]

Idk Korean work at weekend or not

Have to wait like pass Monday or Tuesday to know

[bronze estuary]

RH was buffed when story part 2 was available one week later.

Surely they'll fix Cindy in the same way right

[tight prism]

i wasn't around for redhood

[maiden thicket]

I guess the dev was bad at the game that time

[tight prism]

but surely we give it a week and see

[maiden thicket]

They had to spent much time to find the balanced value on her burst

[tight prism]

i still don't own redhood or modernia 😦

[mystic pulsar]

She can't hit core hit on close range now

[mystic pulsar]

Damn

[mystic pulsar]

How new r you

[bronze estuary]

Wtf is it only one boss or everyone?

[tight prism]

3 months, still missing scarlet Black as well D:

[bronze estuary]

Holy freakin bug, fix asap

[simple dock]

it's a culmunation of not enough testing and new mechanics introduced

[mystic pulsar]

Everyone

[bronze estuary]

Fck this

Ain't no way they letting her like this

[mystic pulsar]

Aye she's still out dpsing everyone so

Bcs of the 200% charge bug

[tight prism]

she's only out dpsing everyone cause of the 2x bug she has as well ahaha which they probz taking away from her

[bronze estuary]

Ye but when they fix this bug they need to fix her core hits

[mystic pulsar]

Ye but they'll proly make up for it by increasing her numbers overall or ppl who pulled gonna complain

[bronze estuary]

No they literally need to fix her not hitting core it's not even a question

[tight prism]

im hoping so, i need a strong unit like cinderella since i'm missing redhood

[mystic pulsar]

They do

[maiden thicket]

Dont worry

U will need both of them

Just be lucky

[mystic pulsar]

U need both

[tight prism]

nah i just need cindy to push campaign ahaha

[mystic pulsar]

Imagine how broken new years unit gonna be

Hope so

[tight prism]

i just generally like rapi, she needs an SSR

[mystic pulsar]

Yea same

[tight prism]

i still need to watch chapter 34

[oak cargo]

avoid posting storu

[molten oak]

Spoilers not allowed here

Modssss

[tight prism]

the only spoilers allowed here is bugrella being lore canon

[molten oak]

Mf why you two are talking about story in megathread

There are dedicated channels for spoilers

#the-eden
#nikke-spoiler-chat

[sacred grove]

careful about posting story spoiler outside spoiler channel okay
consider this as first verbal warn

[fallen quartz]

So bug stack on top of bug...

are you kidding me, SU?

[gloomy quartz]

Y’all want more bugs?

We bug fans eating good

[bronze estuary]

[gloomy quartz]

69 cube batteries and none of them were resi/basti

Just as satan god intended

[lost zinc]

More bugs more apologems

More doll mats would be nice