[Cinderella] New Unit Megathread

[acoustic field]

Her overall value against neutral is weaker than most units.

But present.

But her value against Water bosses is so high.

[exotic forum]

and all of this is purely to make mast work

did anyone actually test such a comp

[acoustic field]

Why would we?

It is theoretically possible.

That's enough.

And I think some whales will do it.

Trust.

In the future.

Cus some of them will use Tove Blanc Noir comp.

[exotic forum]

nerf their sanis in order to make it happen, some might be insane enough to do it

I imagine their sanis are already close to 4 ele 4 atk

[acoustic field]

Some people alr intentionally nerfing.

4 ELE 4 ATK probably wont.

[exotic forum]

how good is the comp's theoretical dmg anyway

[acoustic field]

Should be better than Rouge Blanc.

Rouge Blanc without FLEX.

Against Iron weak bosses, ExiaTr Mast Cindy SAnis SHelm will take lead.

But then again, don't overinvest SHelm or it repeats.

ExiaTr buffing Electric only should help tho.

[oak cargo]

he really took ein out of equation

[acoustic field]

I hate Ein.

[fallen quartz]

Child hater

[acoustic field]

Well, uh, Rouge Crown Cindy Ein SAnis.

Should be best for Crystal Chamber.

But my CP will experience massive deflation.

[oak cargo]

wow u deleted it

i forgot to screenshot

im testing

[acoustic field]

If for campaign Ein better

Than XLud

Put SAnis to the side

Or at least for coreless enemies

Maybe Mother whale too cus too far

[fallen quartz]

Put SAnis to the side of your bed

[oak cargo]

No im testing whats supposed to be best electric boss team on MC AI

[acoustic field]

Where is the battle pass sponsor

I want isabel skin

😢

[upbeat vigil]

[toxic wren]

Ein Vs Cindy

• Campaign stages: Ein mostly, very situational Cinderella

• Boss (Interception, Campaign, and similar): Cinderella

• Boss (Raids, multiple teams): Cinderella is simply just much much better. But this does not mean that Ein is dead. For electric weak raids, Ein can still be used. Exia also comes in this same bracket in which she can be used. Basically Ein and Exia both are very much equal to normal Scarlet now, in that we will not see them on neutral element anymore, but will see them on electric weak. Purely elemental use units.

From my understanding

[exotic forum]

Ein stronger in campaign?

[toxic wren]

Easily

[topaz rampart]

in a solo raid electric team, does Ein want Sanis more or Cindy is better?

[toxic wren]

Cinderella deals much more damage than ein

So cindy

[topaz rampart]

crown still stay with ein?

[wheat vault]

will that statement stay true after the bug fix?

[toxic wren]

I doubt jt

[wheat vault]

[toxic wren]

Yes

[late latch]

Snake pls check dm if you can, ty

[toxic wren]

Maybe later

[wheat vault]

snek pls check dm, i have incriminating pics of you crossdressing

[topaz rampart]

hmm, then t.Exia+ein electric team will be really weak without Sanis/Crown buff

[toxic wren]

Nice, I'll open it rn

[late latch]

motherfucker

[toxic wren]

I mean

people use DWife and rouge

[toxic wren]

Those two can be ran as offburst b1s

Well, now rouge can't be ran as offburst because Cindy exists

But DWife can

Exia bursts and DWife Offburst

Electric units get buffed by Exia

[topaz rampart]

ah, I was assuming rouge will stay with cindy, and dwifle will be on pierce team like RH

[toxic wren]

Smthng like

ExiaTr Mari RH Ein DWife??

[topaz rampart]

t.exia left with volume

[toxic wren]

I'm not sure though cuz I suck at raid building

But the idea is there

These units can still slot in

[crude oasis]

I just got
95% ele
45% atk
145% ammo
4.77% charge damage
On Cinderella

Happy times, now back to hoarding rocks

[topaz rampart]

[crude oasis]

52 rocks left and I know I started with about 172ish rocks

But that was one or two days ago before I OL'd Cinderella in the first place

So... around 120-130 rocks for me to get that

[crude oasis]

Was it a bad deal, or avg deal, or great deal?

[toxic wren]

You should aim for Stage 9 MC

I'm not kidding

[crude oasis]

I think great, I had more trouble getting ideal OLs for BS Scarlet

[crude oasis]

I actually did the recent rerolls with that goal

Trying to figure it out

[toxic wren]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HAvU_1-YLd0

This is

A simple enough team

[crude oasis]

I might have to reroll S Anis OLs and idk if I have enough .. oh he's showing OLs

I can compare then

[toxic wren]

Your Cinderella is better

LOL

I think you can try for it

You have like +20% ele

On him

[oak cargo]

u should be fine (from the vid)

[crude oasis]

17.94% ele helm
20.75% ele body
23.56% ele boots
0.00% ele gloves

That's his Summer Anis, total of 62% ele or so

[toxic wren]

The description gives the total

[crude oasis]

Cindy: 76% ED 46.54% ATK / SR Doll Lv15
SAnis: 62.26% ED 11.81% ATK / no Doll

Hmm SR doll diff

And the Summer Anis is pretty strong compared to mine

My Summer Anis:
33% ele
20% atk
22% hit rate

I guess it's enough to see if I make stage 8

Okay, viewing the video to see if gameplay is doable

[oak cargo]

its just the investment imbalance

[crude oasis]

Only thing is I might have to OL Rouge?

What does Rouge need?

[oak cargo]

1 ammo 1 ele

[crude oasis]

Hmm, I guess I'll do it

first a run to see how far I get

[oak cargo]

if 1 ammo, see if she can pause scum and destroy slipper

[toxic timber]

Momo clear soon

[crude oasis]

This was a scuffed run, lots of messups. I was able to reach stage 5 with 2:00 on clock basically like the video though

But the problem came when mouse didn't cooperate while I was trying to aim, like it hit an upper bound limit

While I was trying to move cursor up

That's with a T9Ms only Rouge

And a T9Ms only Naga

I was able to break the slippers

But I think I was in full burst unlike the video, and I couldn't pause scum it

Because I missed when I tried

And I actually had CDR issues I need more levels in Rouge's S1

That or I was ruining her full charge shots

[toxic timber]

U whale, just max her

[crude oasis]

26 days for skill reset window and I have 11 skill reset books

I'm pretty cozy I guess

I think I ended up in full burst so it's skewed

I think video is she did it without full burst

I just have 1LB Rouge

[oak cargo]

+2 black ed during weekend ongod

[crude oasis]

NVM, @old forge , I just double checked, the first break is during Full Burst and it's the most important break

So indeed, Rouge at least for first break doesn't need any help except lvl5 T9Ms and team's full burst

And a fully charged shot

And 1LB was enough copies for that

As for 2nd... let's see

2nd break was outside of Full Burst

3rd break was inside of Full Burst

So it's the 2nd one that matters I guess unless you can fix the timing to break during full burst

Ammo's an issue

[safe lotus]

just tested Shino team, don't think the ammo is needed either
Rouge 10/4/4, she has inf ammo during FB, i full charge during FB for CDR and quick shots outside of it for burst gen.
Slower burst gen perhaps but otherwise it's still smooth and doable.

[crude oasis]

6 ammo base

So I probably want to give Rouge at least one ammo line

[oak cargo]

This sanis is like 60-80ed?

[crude oasis]

Well, they might be fixing Cinderella so too late for me since I don't want to burn tonight on malding Stage 9 MC

[safe lotus]

ye, S.Anis 74% ed

[crude oasis]

I'll hold off on OLing Rouge and Naga until after I see what they do to Cinderella with the fix

[oak cargo]

Solo raid is canceled

Just mald MC now cuz nothing else to deploy cindy to

[safe lotus]

RIP freebie doll mats and gems

[oak cargo]

[safe lotus]

[oak cargo]

Wait we cant get the last day reward?

[crude oasis]

I actually used her against Mirror Container in Tribal Tower

[oak cargo]

[heady hornet]

no overload on exia right now so i guess in theory theres some marginal damage improvements that can be done there

[weary walrus]

wot

[tired elm]

https://twitter.com/NIKKE_en/status/1852245584792477892

GODDESS OF VICTORY: NIKKE (@NIKKE_en) on X

【Temporary Closure of Solo Raid】

Commanders,

Due to unexpected issues, we will be closing the Solo Raid for Season 19 at November 1, 22:00 (UTC+9).

We apologize for the inconvenience and will send compensation after the closure.

Please stay tuned to official announcements

Twitter · Nov 1, 2024, 7:05 AM

[twin hornet]

does this mean grave for sr

[heady hornet]

i have her bursting first

but i put sanis in the middle

its mostly probalby so when she's inthe middle

she can hit the core better from all angles

[brave socket]

I need to get rouge ult higher to use with Cinderella right ?

[heady hornet]

ideally yeah

[weary walrus]

I think it's because Cinderella can't full stack beauty before the first burst?

[heady hornet]

my rouge is 10,4,7 right now

[pseudo garnet]

with the SR postponed are we expecting some cindy's shadow nerf?

[heady hornet]

the bug woudl be corrected

so most likely damage numbers are gonna redue by a decent margin

[weary walrus]

more like bugfix..... but i can bet the near shots missing wouldn't be fixed yet

[heady hornet]

though they might do some correcting to maintain some of the damage

[pseudo garnet]

I'm sad if cindy's damage got bugfixed, I feel that she's fine with the bug

how much damage lost are we expecting here

[broken berry]

Think the glitch made her do double damage

So probably a lot

[heady hornet]

her burst would be doing double damage

[pseudo garnet]

yeah pretty big when I tested it

[sour kite]

What's the scaling of Cinderella Stats? Is HP more important than attack? So for example, would the chest piece be more important for her than the helmet?

[broken berry]

Did this glitch just pop up after her recent fix or has this been there since the get go?

[heady hornet]

i dont know lol

[pseudo garnet]

I didn't even realized it at first, shit gotta push towers and hard campaigns

[heady hornet]

this would be the correct time to beat 32h

do they not have beta testers lkol

how do they not learn about this till people start posting it on twitter and what not

[topaz rampart]

my ein and sanis is underinvested, it's still not within lowest stage clear

[broken berry]

If it's been there since launch, the reaction is gonna be real interesting

What in tarnation

[signal hollow]

god 20% of Cindy's damage is bugged

what the hell shiftup

people said it's 20

yeah that's what I was thinking if they're gonna fix the charge damage bug

they'll just buff compensate Cinderella

[heady hornet]

i think they'll fix the charge damage bug

but then add some more numbers to the burst or something to give relatively equivalent damage

so people dont cry that she goes from doing 4b to 2b on water bosses

or they jsut remove the bug

then people yell

and they do what i just said anyway

[signal hollow]

[broken berry]

Yeah, probably, cause if they just flat nerf her, I'm pretty sure there will be riots in the ark

[wheat vault]

every anniv is gonna be like this huh

[heady hornet]

they probalby have someone do a little math

[wheat vault]

rh and now cindy

[heady hornet]

but probalby only like 5 people and they're overworked

doing math on 20 differnet unmits in beta

its pretty crazy how sbs came out

[signal hollow]

like when will we have a disaster-free anniv?

[heady hornet]

no issues lol

[wheat vault]

third time's the charm

[signal hollow]

even the half-annivs didn't have problems

[wheat vault]

idk, they tried too hard with the gimmicky curved lasers

[signal hollow]

I mean it's a good try but spaghetti code

btw what is Cindy's skill prio? S1?

[heady hornet]

s1 > s2

[maiden thicket]

@toxic wren Did Ultra SR get delayed aswell ?

[heady hornet]

iirc yes

[pseudo garnet]

https://tenor.com/view/dancing-coffin-coffin-dance-funeral-funny-farewell-gif-16737844

should we prepare the meme

[heady hornet]

the meme will be lore accurate

[broken berry]

If they do cut her damage in half, ain't no way that goes over well

[heady hornet]

honestly

they might as well just ignore the bug lol

cuase they're gonna have to buff her damage to be roughly the same

which will probalby involve tweeking burst numbers or s1/s2 numbers

which would end up making her even stronger than before lol

[pliant plover]

yeah but the bug doesn't work all the time right? better to raise the standard dmg and remove the rng factoe

[broken berry]

That's probably what they'll have to do

[heady hornet]

my sbs has about the same amount of ele lines

and more perfect rolls

[potent sapphire]

this is my first anniversary, I love it

[heady hornet]

and she's doing about 1m mroe than sbs

[potent sapphire]

hope it;s like that every anniversary

[heady hornet]

in basically the same team minus liter for rouge

[potent sapphire]

https://tenor.com/view/chaos-gif-22919457

[heady hornet]

now yo ucan put cindy in the coffin, with grave as the pole bearers

its canon

[potent sapphire]

the signs were there all along

Shift Up confirmed to not know what Excel is

[fallen quartz]

So Prydwen can write review for Cinder now, right?

[sacred grove]

su tried to make cindy lore accurate

[fallen quartz]

I mean based on dps on boss at far

we can see almost peak dps from her

[heady hornet]

if burst is really only about 20% of her damage

[pseudo garnet]

so Cindy is like reverse RH, where she was midhood at first and then SU buff her up

[heady hornet]

then i guess my damage on shooting range would go to like 3.2b for cindy instead of the 4b she was doing

[fallen quartz]

Buff? no, they nerf her with bugs

[potent sapphire]

buffing characters in gacha is easy, nerfing characters in gacha is a pandora box

[fallen quartz]

even without bigger aoe and faster projectile spd, her correct dps is already meta

[toxic wren]

The only reason it was delayed was because she's a fucking buggy bitch

[heady hornet]

this is the fastest bug fix

[toxic wren]

Thankfully we have gatrix lol

[fallen quartz]

Yeah, I'm just hoping you guys can release review on her before Solo Raid end.

[pseudo garnet]

https://tenor.com/view/damn-shookt-shocked-gif-5580082

[heady hornet]

it took a full year for noise having double hp buff in pvp to be fixed lol

[fallen quartz]

Thankfully you guys have nerds.

[toxic wren]

Don't need to wait anymore

[fallen quartz]

Nerds for the win! Math, bitches!

[toxic wren]

Double hp was a blessing

I hate PvP now

[heady hornet]

yea it was a good bug

pvp is so dog shit now

[toxic wren]

Let me just make pvp
Even more dps lopsided

Cuz obviously we have 50000 supporters for pvp right??

Fucking bitch

[heady hornet]

every 2 months pvp gets 3 more attack units, and we get maybe 1 def unit once a year

[toxic wren]

I'll murder them how they murdered my gamemode

[heady hornet]

champions arena is going to be a shitshow

[toxic wren]

Anyways grave will be there for SR now

Blanc or biscuit**

We already got noah 2.0

[fallen quartz]

So Cinder is a nail on Scarlet, completely kick her out of top 5 dps on raids.

[heady hornet]

i invested all my books into exia assume grave woudnt' be there for sr

why tehy do this to me

[fallen quartz]

[toxic wren]

Bay is quite decent

Well there's ton of them that can hold

Invest in Rosanna bitch

[heady hornet]

they can hold

until your opponent knows the ocutner matches

then it doesn't matter

[toxic wren]

2nd time in history they're delaying solo raid

[heady hornet]

best defense is 40 level differnce

[toxic wren]

Very funny

[heady hornet]

[civic lance]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1038708366630977566/1047768821747941376/20221201_022935.gif

[simple dock]

I remember why I quit now, these dang mats

[toxic wren]

Alright sir

I have to say you don't have that gambling mentality

[heady hornet]

its hard to invest in bay and rumani

[toxic wren]

Need to stay in it to win it bro

[heady hornet]

cause i had to invest everything into anni units too

[toxic wren]

I mileaged rumani and now they gave me double pilgrim banner

Fk this shit fr

They are

Invest means

[heady hornet]

shit is very fucked

[toxic wren]

Overload gear

[heady hornet]

rumani is 444

[toxic wren]

In PvP all that matters is overload gear

[heady hornet]

but i think for bay you probably want to invest more in her burst

[toxic wren]

No no

Trust

4/4/4

[heady hornet]

no?

lol i have her gear already read

i'll trust the process then this fb

bro i can't even take cind ygear to l5 t10

@toxic wren did the alice bug happen at the same time as rh?

or was that new years?

the core difference be rough

[wheat vault]

wasn't alice bug before cb sr?

[toxic wren]

No it was after lol

In December, for around uhh 3 weeks?

[wheat vault]

so after anniv

[heady hornet]

thats when they cancelled that sr right

[wheat vault]

cb sr was still going

[toxic wren]

Fixed just before CB SR
Present right after december SR

[wheat vault]

but just delayed

[heady hornet]

yea delayed

mb

[toxic wren]

LMFAO no way, this is bay??

[heady hornet]

bans were not implemented

[toxic wren]

Yeah i know that lol

x is for your imagination

[fallen quartz]

You keep her numbers at bay alright.

[toxic wren]

Right S1

What's funny is that our Bay review probably has the correct values

[last hill]

how about cindy's new burst gen in PVP ? 0.225*6 per hit ?

[toxic wren]

KosMiu and I went over it last night

It's still shit

[last hill]

2 unit + 2 cover + 2 additon dmg

[toxic wren]

No

[last hill]

no?

[toxic wren]

It doesn't hit 2 units 90% of the time

95% of the time actually

[heady hornet]

rl in name only

[toxic wren]

It sometimes ONLY hits cover

It's so bad

[heady hornet]

[last hill]

i think sometime miss hit

in pvp

[toxic wren]

Sometimes it only hits cover and doesn't even proc additional damage bro

So it's 1 hit

[last hill]

i see KEKW

[toxic wren]

On average it's 2 hits

@last hill

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1076238531371991181/1301662214033379439/Record_2024-11-01-05-38-27.mp4?ex=67254ae7&is=6723f967&hm=a207e379b173c8f261a2df473e7338d199e530e4d6ad537a7572ece4ecabe18d&

2 times in a row (2nd and 3rd shot)

She only hits cover

All other shots she hits body +procs additional damage, sometimes hitting cover with body as well so 3 hits

No 4 hits at all this video

[acoustic field]

Whats Ch32 before boss lowest sync clear?

[broken berry]

How did we go from Cindy to pvp? 🤣

[last hill]

so if there is no bug , it should be 4 hits or 6 hits?

[acoustic field]

461 or 441?

[toxic wren]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1076238531371991181/1301672894580916262/image.png?ex=672554d9&is=67240359&hm=96836cf6dedbc7de01722387d4746b2c768f3a1761ce4315f8f82471b288c4f3&

[toxic wren]

No

There is no bug here

Her splash radius is 50

[last hill]

not 400 ?

[toxic wren]

Datamined value

[toxic wren]

Her projectile size is 400

[toxic wren]

In other words

Let me show you

[last hill]

weird

[toxic wren]

Cindy

Another random rl

You see how it's different values that are 400/500 and 50??

It's the reason why what tsukino yesterday shared here was happening

[last hill]

i see

[toxic wren]

The projectile size is actually so fucking big the first thing it contacts with, it counts that as the point where it will do 50 splash radius of damage

[last hill]

so it mean projectile is too huge , sometime can't hit unit and cover at the same time ?

[toxic wren]

KosMiu thinks it works like this

[toxic wren]

Using this video as reference

[last hill]

[gloomy quartz]

Did they close solo raid cuz cindy is actually good?

And will be “corrected” later

[heady hornet]

waht is that drawing

[toxic wren]

Boobs ofcourse

[heady hornet]

[last hill]

grave: cindy need me !

[toxic wren]

It shows that when the projectile Cindy shoots hit left side of opponent head, the splash radius wasn't enough to hit cover so there's one tick and one cross

When it hit right side of opponent it was close enough to hit both cover and body so two ticks for the splash radius

During the time where RLs go into cover, Cindy projectiles follow the opponent units and it's possible that the projectile ONLY hit the cover

[maiden thicket]

Hope they just delay and fix bug

Not remove this month SR

[toxic wren]

Shino do you think resetting noir is safe

[maiden thicket]

Idts

[toxic wren]

[maiden thicket]

Noir is still available for Mod and SG comp

[gloomy quartz]

If they fix Cindy’s bug isn’t she gonna be fucking weak as shit? Since most of her dmg comes from burst anyways

[maiden thicket]

When Fire weak come Noir will go with Mod

And now for tanky SG comps, Noir is the part of them

[toxic wren]

No she'll be fine don't worry

[maiden thicket]

Tanky means u have SR 15 on Mpriv BSoda

[toxic wren]

I understand

[maiden thicket]

But it still depend on how much time r u gonna spend to play SR

Cause Tove comp is time consuming

[brave socket]

Think I'm going to invest on rouge just to 7 and later when raid ends Mari gets the 🪓 so I have for grave

They told me to do so after raid lol

Rosana was 🪓 d already

[toxic wren]

Naga will never be kicked

Naga is above grave

If Tiga falters then Naga goes in crown lol

It's as simple as that

[wooden roost]

you can no?

[brave socket]

After raid

[wooden roost]

why not

if SR is being delayed

grave is coming out

[brave socket]

After raid 🪓

It is being delayed ?

[wooden roost]

well

https://twitter.com/NIKKE_en/status/1852245584792477892

GODDESS OF VICTORY: NIKKE (@NIKKE_en) on X

【Temporary Closure of Solo Raid】

Commanders,

Due to unexpected issues, we will be closing the Solo Raid for Season 19 at November 1, 22:00 (UTC+9).

We apologize for the inconvenience and will send compensation after the closure.

Please stay tuned to official announcements

Twitter · Nov 1, 2024, 7:05 AM

idk if this means delay by a whole day

or just a couple of hours

[brave socket]

Ohh I didn't see it

Reset was going for longer than normal iirc ?

Nice

[last hill]

so even hit unit and cover at the same time , it can't be 4 hit ?

or splash radius is too small , it's impossible hit unit and cover at the same time ?

[brave socket]

Why are people expecting a buff if ult gets fixed... For starters they call a fix a "nerf"

My good man... If it works as the skill description says it does it is no nerf

[heady hornet]

if bug gets fixed

[brave socket]

Now people use nerf for everything

[heady hornet]

and she loses 20% damage or more

people are goin to riot

[toxic wren]

We haven't seen a 6 hit yet at all

[heady hornet]

and they will ahve to buff teh damage anyway

like how people whined about RH

[brave socket]

That reasoning...

[heady hornet]

like if say cindy's damage goes to drunk scarlet damage

thats literally teh exact same reason why rh good buffed

[brave socket]

So if she ends up doing more damage than day 1 due to accuracy's fix what's there to complain damn

[toxic wren]

You guys are literally overreacting

She's currently outpacing sbs so now she will be roughly equal to her

It's fine

[wooden roost]

can someone here tell me what is the damage increase of cindys "bug"

[brave socket]

They have to get testers for once to avoid these situations

[heady hornet]

if she does more damage people wont complain

[toxic wren]

×2 damage of burst

[heady hornet]

its just a matter of do you trust shift up to get it right immediatley

[wooden roost]

50% more dmg?

[heady hornet]

how bout 1 tired intern

[brave socket]

But she's still going to do more damage than day 1 and it was a lot no??

[toxic wren]

The 6000% nuke becomes 12000%

[heady hornet]

day 1 still had the bug

[wooden roost]

wait thats just 100% then

heh

[broken berry]

Ultimately, it doesn't matter what we think, it matters how jp/kr take it

[heady hornet]

45 million downloads

• super laggy servers day 1

[toxic wren]

It's because charge damage isn't a 1+1 multiplier thing

It's an ×200% so ×2

[heady hornet]

theres gonna be a riot if the damage gets worse lol

i dont think her damage will be lower

[brave socket]

They can riot as much as they want. As far as I know with everything fixed she's still a top dps

[heady hornet]

mostly cause they'll compensate in some way to make sure teh damage stays equivalent

[brave socket]

Just give out free mults and fixed

[heady hornet]

equivalent to what she's doinmg now

lol

[brave socket]

No

Accuracy fixes and no ult double bug

That's it

[molten oak]

What is the condition to make X2 dmg on Cindy burst?

[brave socket]

And that's good

[heady hornet]

also thats also acting like

jp kr

are reasonable

[brave socket]

Ame

My good man

[molten oak]

mmmmm

[broken berry]

I've seen overseas get pissed for less

[brave socket]

If they buff damage to be the same as with bug

Why close solo raid

LOL

[heady hornet]

they hshouldn't have done it anyway

cause, like i said earlier,

if the damage is lower after fixin the bug

people are going to riot

and they will end up having to buff the stuff anyway to make it equivalent

[broken berry]

Exactly, people won't care if it's a fix, all they'll see is a nerf

[brave socket]

I can easily fix riots tho

[heady hornet]

the only reason to really fix the bug is that, its a sign of a core issue

[brave socket]

5 free multis

Bam

[heady hornet]

were you there

[signal hollow]

[heady hornet]

for the rh debacle?

[brave socket]

I was

But it was a completely different issue

[heady hornet]

i can guarnatee the damage will be roughly equivalent

cause they dont want those problems with JP again lol

this happened in genshin too lol

they fixed a bug with a dude character

[brave socket]

Different issue again

[molten oak]

She was sbs and she wasn't hitting the core properly

[heady hornet]

that only affected like 10% of people

[brave socket]

Neuvi was put of banner already

[heady hornet]

everyone knew it was a bug

[brave socket]

Out

[heady hornet]

they fixed it

[broken berry]

With rh, she performed one way during a ls, then performed worse since su nerfed her, nobody cared if it was a reasonable nerf, jp/kr still rioted

[heady hornet]

"fixed' it

[brave socket]

And cinde bug is in known issues

It's completely different situations

[heady hornet]

people omplaiend, and reverted it

bro

shes' going to be doing the same damage

whether after teh ffix

[brave socket]

Why close Sr then

[signal hollow]

okay so
Cindy is good but inaccurate
after the accuracy fix, she's accurate but BALANS due to the bug
so after the fix, she's good AND accurate?

[signal hollow]

coz people can cheese the score

[heady hornet]

or in a couple weeks when the riots happen

[signal hollow]

once Challenge mode is up

[heady hornet]

also if its a bug with cindy

[brave socket]

If they buff the damage to be the same it will be the same lol

[heady hornet]

high probability the bug is with other characters too

but no one has tested it enough to figure out who else is getting this

[toxic wren]

Everyone would've gotten the benefit of the bug

[molten oak]

No reason to miss the core like she does but idk man

[signal hollow]

yep

[heady hornet]

i guarantee you

shift up dont want those problems with jp

[brave socket]

People have to learn that bugs happen and they get fixed

[signal hollow]

that's what I said...

[brave socket]

If they don't just give up pull currency

That's it

[molten oak]

My comfy stage 7 on MC if fucked then?

[broken berry]

You are expecting overseas to be reasonable, that's asking alot

[signal hollow]

so she was BALANS?

[heady hornet]

she will be doing the same damage, and if the core hits are nough then that will be enough

but i bet if the core hitting isn't enough, some numbers will be tweeked alongside the bug fix

[brave socket]

Otherwise we will enter a hard powercreep spiral

Or next units will suck for a year

[broken berry]

Oh, god not this argument again

[signal hollow]

good thing I didn't put her in to this sticker yet

[brave socket]

That's what I saw too

When in other games a bug makes someone do more damage they don't demand the damage boost staying Lmao

[ornate nymph]

Harran was bugged for months, they fixed her and no one rioted.

[brave socket]

This is complete madness

[toxic wren]

2 months

[heady hornet]

only people that sufered with harran

[toxic wren]

Harran was fixed in 2022

[heady hornet]

were rerollers

[brave socket]

Well , if you spent for cinder you clearly knew what you were pulling for

[toxic wren]

She was fixed before mod

[wooden roost]

they better not give me tickets for this fix as an apology and not a buff

[ornate nymph]

Rerollers were spending lots on Harran.

[toxic wren]

You know how long ago 2022 was

[wooden roost]

im gonna crash out

[toxic wren]

Good

In maincord tho not here

[wooden roost]

why not

[toxic wren]

I'll give you that, just get me SBS skin

[brave socket]

Tickets out is the easiest and safest solution , believe me

[heady hornet]

her damage will be > sbs after the fix

they will ensure that

[signal hollow]

they'll give you tix as well as a buff compensation anyway

[brave socket]

Cinder will still be bonkers and you'll get more addiction

Easy

[toxic wren]

Cindy removed from the game along with Alice and game is balanced forever

[signal hollow]

my guess it would be 3m

[heady hornet]

4b

[toxic wren]

[heady hornet]

alice single handedly

fucked the game up

by existing

[brave socket]

[wooden roost]

this guy just wants a fight with elz

[ornate nymph]

I'd still argue the Harran bug was worse. Harran Havers gained 2 month of advantage that still resulted in a permanent advantage on the leveling curve.

[molten oak]

My Cindy

[heady hornet]

i remember investing in yulha

to get a "similar' but way worse version

for my global account jsut toclear

[molten oak]

Nuke SU offices pls

[wooden roost]

im sending in the trucks and vans

[tight prism]

so cinderella broke the game they had to cancel solo raid?

[brave socket]

Because she's bugged

[broken berry]

It seems that way

[weary cedar]

I wonder why they can't fix the miss hit without fucking up the double damage

[tight prism]

whats the bug?

is her rockets hitting twice instead of once?

[weary cedar]

Like, why they don't test it before deploying it yesterday

[broken berry]

Your asking companies to think

[signal hollow]

I was wondering why I haven't put Alice into my sticker yet?

[brave socket]

Ult doing 2x damage once fully charged

[acoustic field]

Im still sad as to how no one told me to check crown free gacha pulls

[signal hollow]

did I just really downplay Alice for 2 years?

[heady hornet]

cause she's too cute

[acoustic field]

But now that I think about it, I was on hiatus

[weary cedar]

If it makes you feel better, i got 2 crowns from daily single pull

[acoustic field]

No her costume pulls

[signal hollow]

too cute for this sticker ?

[weary cedar]

Oh, yeah

[civic lance]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1038708366630977566/1047768821747941376/20221201_022935.gif

[toxic wren]

[knotty sonnet]

[broken berry]

I hate fighting glass slippers

[acoustic field]

A few things I noticed: people are pushing story faster than it is being released.

[signal hollow]

we're gonna come back to this once the bug is fixed

[toxic wren]

Everyone stuck on ch32 bro

[toxic wren]

This is about rouge, not cindy

[knotty sonnet]

Just need good Ein for that

[signal hollow]

oh

[molten oak]

Damn rouge stonk

[acoustic field]

U think they wont unstuck at sync 500

[molten oak]

He said 0 ele+resi lv9 cube

[toxic wren]

80% of players will need 521

[heady hornet]

i would tyr to clear 32h

[toxic wren]

Minimum

[heady hornet]

but wilds beta this weekend so i gotta do that

[acoustic field]

Even with proper cindy?

[heady hornet]

but i doubt i coudl clear it even with cindy

[acoustic field]

During Crown buff period?

[toxic wren]

Omega couldn't do it with 501 and he's a good player lol

You still need a stacked Cindy it's not like u can do it one 111

[heady hornet]

is 85 ele rolls good enough

[acoustic field]

I would consider 70-90% being enough

For raid

80%+ for story

[toxic wren]

80+ is really good

[broken berry]

Ch 32 is the only time in any game where I actually spent money to squeeze out more power to beat a boss

[heady hornet]

80+ but no attack rolls

roughly 100 ele wit hcube

[broken berry]

Mirror container just sucks ass to fight

[acoustic field]

Cindy atk is alr a bit diluted

Dont worry lmao

She scales worse than Scarlet on ATK

[heady hornet]

im assuming i dont even need to level up her ol right

its proalby a marginal dps increase

yea

[acoustic field]

Rouge OL 1-2 max ammo ok, dependent on gear that increases MAX HP level.

Cindy dependent on all four.

[heady hornet]

i dont goth the fodder for that

helm chest boots

[acoustic field]

I thought credits are the bottleneck

Its normal to 5 5 helmet and body or 5 5 helmet and gloves, some even 5 5 5, and boots usually just 3 or skip.

[heady hornet]

yea but i wanted to save some

for grave

[acoustic field]

She is a support

Her damage is there but its just there

[heady hornet]

harmacist

got chest and helm to 5

[acoustic field]

Stop.

I wouldnt

Do that

If Im in a shortage

Lmao

THAT shortage

I wouldnt even up it to 5

Just 3

[heady hornet]

fbw will save me

[acoustic field]

3 is a good compromise

3 everything

[heady hornet]

rumani dont got ol

[acoustic field]

Just level 0 is fine

[brave socket]

Man so many people on X using the nerf word wrong LMAO. But what can I expect when they use it on betas too

[heady hornet]

yea but getting to l0 with anni units robbing me be rough

[brave socket]

You break the slippers with rouge ?

Hmm

[maiden thicket]

I can break 2nd slipper without full burst

[brave socket]

I need to try again to learn slipper break cuz no matter how hard I tried it never worked to me lol

[maiden thicket]

15.15% only

Breaking slipper with Rouge wasnt that easy tbh

I have been trying when the banner was out

It forced me to OL Rouge

I said it right @toxic wren

3 dps when the core expose full time wasn't that good

Only good when 3 DPSs are crazy strong

[toxic wren]

I saw people on twitter clear with ein s.anis Cindy

And get their title

[acoustic field]

Im gonna push story tomorrow

I hope no fix yet

[toxic wren]

If enough ele on Ein, she's better than Naga

[acoustic field]

IM PUSHING TO CH 32

FUCK THIS

It is evident

Obviously when boss has core

Ein gets ditched

LMAO

I alr knew Naga was needed

She is just broken

Probably gonna 10 10 10 my Naga

Still 10 7 10

Inhaling copium

No of course

Waste of mats

Naga more important

No, one is less important

Nonono

Rouge alr took her place

No rn

Rouge more important

AI clearance needs Liter and Rouge

No more DWifes

DWifes has been demoted to stage mobbing unit and raid unit

Just OL Liter make her doll 5

Use Tempering

[tight prism]

do u dare demote my wife

[acoustic field]

Actually gonna move Rouge to SSS if Cindy fix makes her good

Tomorrow?

NOOOOO

Whats the best CC comp if my Ein is shit

Crown Cindy Alice SAnis Liter?

Why

Why not use Cindy

Actually isnt it Ein SAnis Scarlet

Lmao

Im going Cindy whatever

Thats why Alice

Well my RH not dolled 15 yet

Cant use RH

Cp deficit will make it harder

[maiden thicket]

I know

But i cant do that with lb0 pepega Ein

[acoustic field]

This

Most people have invested SAnis and Cindy

Just because SAnis has been around and staple for a long time

Ein is new and we kinda expected her to powercreep but also samey

Not a big leap forward

Except on Mirror container ofc

So what most people did is build Ein enough that she works

Not perfect

So yeah shes gonna work for ur campaign, raid, bossing, etc, but it's not fully perfect for most people

Not like 4 ele 4 atk MLB/core 7 type of shit

Even Texas's broken Ein falls below Naga

[maiden thicket]

I just dont like Gal girl

So not so much invest on her

[acoustic field]

Next pilgrim is likely water

So im just reminding to save up

Xmas is 100% iron

And might be a new unit for anomaly ultra

For campaign MC, Cindy Ein SAnis is likely the BiS.

[maiden thicket]

Rapi SSR is likely Iron

Cause she inherits RH's legacy

Have to wait

Im betting on Pilgrim

[acoustic field]

U think new year is rapi?

[molten oak]

At least I read story

[maiden thicket]

Yeah

[acoustic field]

Nah she still looks fire element to me

[molten oak]

Nice spoilers anyway

[acoustic field]

Very likely she will be new year unit

Im kinda lowkey expecting duo unit again

It will be Rapi SSR and Water Pilgrim

Half anniv will be Hansel Gretel + Chime free SSR

Anniv is gonna be idk

But Shinonono likes Hansel Gretel

After anniv, or during xmas

Perfect timing

Im expecting right after anniv

During version update

[quick needle]

Whales will spend chimellion dollars to get one unit

[knotty sonnet]

Just wait for her in Liberation shop

[acoustic field]

I think they will do double units now

They need revenue

So prepare

Idk man

It hurts

LOL

Assuming u MLB anniv unit, MLB new year unit, and 1 copy everything else

You will need 2400 golden tix

= 720000 gems per year

[molten oak]

I haven't finished the story

Time to leave the chat

[acoustic field]

Hoping new year has SSR Rapi and it goes to standard banner

But honestly

The other one is likely a dps pilgrim

[frigid pumice]

btw if they actually went and fix this charge buff wouldnt it piss people off

[acoustic field]

Idk maybe Nayuta?

Nah

It shud be a unit we alr know

Rose?

What if its Chime

Nah

Chime is 100% half anniv

Im 100% sure

[frigid pumice]

oh theres already a post lmoa

[molten oak]

Mlb the DPS, one copy the support, done

[acoustic field]

Im also sure SSR Rapi will come during new year

[frigid pumice]

tbh i can forsee them fix the bug and buff up her burst number

[acoustic field]

SSR Mihara?

[molten oak]

For low spenders, dolphins and whales mileage is brutal broken

[acoustic field]

Why do I feel like

Its SSR Rapi and SSR Mihara

[frigid pumice]

Little Mermaid might be possibility

well after chapter 34 that is.

[acoustic field]

The unit with the highest showcase and spotlight

Is likely the next

If there isnt

Then its some old unit like Rose

[molten oak]

Imagine a "pity" that can be saved for years, cmon there are whales with 5k+ mileage

[frigid pumice]

new years im betting is either SSR rapi or Little Mermaid

story wise

[molten oak]

imma pity grave and mlb new year if this is a DPS

[frigid pumice]

and ||Anis half ani||

[molten oak]

mileage broken af

[acoustic field]

Little mermaid is likely cus new year is 100% water pilgrim

Lmao

[molten oak]

Fuck no sub DPS Broken support

One copy and done

[frigid pumice]

wait is it confirm water pilgrim in the files ?

[molten oak]

Exactly

[frigid pumice]

more grave copy just improves her dmg, which is.... well up to you

she more support, more dupes dosnt benefit her supporting capabilities so 1 copy is enough

[acoustic field]

Pilgrim List

• New Year 2023: Fire DPS
• Half Anniv 2023: Water Support
• Anniv 2023: Iron DPS
• New Year 2024: Wind DPS
• Half Anniv 2024: Iron Support
• Anniv 2024: Electric DPS & Fire Support
• New Year 2025: (Water DPS) & (Electric Support?)
• Half Anniv 2025: (Chime - Wind Support?)

[molten oak]

Chime

[frigid pumice]

this is speculation orrr

[acoustic field]

Grounded speculation

And reasonable

[frigid pumice]

we are lacking Water DPS pilgrim

not you Doro.

[potent sapphire]

wtf

[maiden thicket]

[frigid pumice]

rest attribute time

[wooden nova]

So guys

Is she "better" as a dps than rh alice sbs?

[tired plinth]

You not ready for Doro treasure

[frigid pumice]

we talk about then when Isabel gets one :v

which hmmm, might be time for them to add Pilgrim spare parts into mileage

[heady hornet]

pilgrim water dps needed

[fallen quartz]

I see you have a wet dream.

[brazen violet]

So would they fix the bug?

[fallen quartz]

ofc

[brazen violet]

[broken berry]

The real question is will overseas take it well, I've seen/heard of overseas servers in other games get pissed for less

[simple dock]

80 rocks

[tired plinth]

tbh they have no choice rn

it's a bug not like RH false marketing or something

isn't even claim for refund here cause they announced she was bugged (granted it was something different)

[brazen violet]

Hmmm but she passed QA test with that much damage

[molten oak]

SU basically

[broken berry]

Again, logical reasoning, I don't care either way if they fix it, but I've also heard of overseas servers rioting over dumber shit. Iirc, the entire cn server for gfl2 rioted just cause they thought they got cucked

[tired plinth]

We go have to see then

SU gotta draw a line somewhere for what the bend for now would be best time

[broken berry]

All I'm saying is that it wouldn't surprise me if the Jap or Korean servers rioted, it wouldn't make sense for them to do it, but it wouldn't surprise me

[tired plinth]

yeah they at the very least we know it's their intention for her to be stronk

[frigid pumice]

if they fix it sure, but numbers are gonna be bumped up

[tired plinth]

I think so too tbh

if whatever testing they did had her pumping up this much damage post change ideally should be here

if not then lol man we need another coffin meme

[brazen violet]

And its not like the bug is hard to replicate

With SU basically have bis gear when testing

They surely would have checked if her damage is this big

[frigid pumice]

it might have been that oh shit she deals too much dmg

and tone down her HP scallings

[brazen violet]

Yeah

But they kept it like that

And release her

[broken berry]

As someone else said, why is always anni characters that got issues? 🤣

[frigid pumice]

they are "satisfied" with the dmg so if they went back to fix it , they just gotta bump up the scallings on her burst specifically

[brazen violet]

The bug is easy to replicate, just burst Cindy while in full charge

No way they missed that in testing

Considering its a new RL mechanic

[tired plinth]

man is assuming they test Anni unit

[brazen violet]

They would have tested it extensively

[frigid pumice]

is easy to miss cause they thought they fixed it with harran

[brazen violet]

But the damage is unmissable

[agile crystal]

cause she fullcharge all the time that why they missed it?

[broken berry]

I just tested it, and I got a difference of roughly 33 percent

[brazen violet]

I mean the damage

If they never intend for her to do that much damage

They would have noticed something wrong

[brave socket]

she didnt have the bug at the start

[broken berry]

It would be kinda funny if they just buff the boss so it has more health and Cindy can't send it to the shadow realm 🤣

[brave socket]

so the ydefinitely didnt intend for her to have so much damage

[brazen violet]

Bruh how?

[brave socket]

that's my worry. That they balance the bosses around cindy if she stays like this

[broken berry]

The bug was there but it was overshadowed by the other bug

[brave socket]

at the start she had accuracy bug

[brazen violet]

Ah

[agile crystal]

https://tenor.com/view/fehlerhaft-fehler-bugs-bug-gif-26196067

[brave socket]

but no double damage bug

[broken berry]

Yeah

[brave socket]

the fix for accuracy bug brought these 2

[brazen violet]

Ah

Wait when was the fix came?

[frigid pumice]

yesterday ish

[brazen violet]

Fixed in same day huh

[frigid pumice]

iirc

[brave socket]

yes

[sand mesa]

It was like a 68mb update

[broken berry]

I mean tbf red hood and bunnies trivialized a fuckload of campaign cause they were cracked until the got superseded by naga and crown, power creep is gonna happen, just the speed changes, mod is still top tier afaik

[frigid pumice]

so day 1 testing result would remain the same

rn the bug is giving her extra lol

[brazen violet]

Welp guess uber broken cindy dream is shattered

[frigid pumice]

and they gotta close down solo raid entirely

rip my doll mats 😦

[brazen violet]

The solo raid shut down was due to another bug i heard

[brave socket]

yes. That's the dumb of the situation. Testing proves shes still top tier without the ult bug

yet I see people demanding the damage stays

ffs

just give out 5 multies and be done with it SU

people wont riot with that

[broken berry]

Su absolutely will not do that

[brave socket]

leaving the damage on is worse

and if nothing is given people will riot

[brazen violet]

5 multis

[brave socket]

idk

whatever the number that will make people happy

[broken berry]

If they give out 5 multis that shoots their revenue from Cindy in the head, no shot that happens

[brave socket]

I dont care im not complaining

if they up the power curve so much it will be worse at the future

[frigid pumice]

think about it if they plan to fix this extra cinderella bug mid solo raid like sky said there might be difference between those who ranked early (with cindy bug) and those who rank last minute (after fix)

[brave socket]

no one will pull for new units unless they make them ultra specific for each SR

which then casuals wont pull for them either

[green verge]

Casual still pull if the ass is good tbh

[frigid pumice]

tho now is a good thing if they reopen solo raid later

meaning Grave can participate 😄

[brave socket]

mid players then

[broken berry]

Casuals will pull for whoever is good for them. Cindy being busted won't change that, people pulled for red hood and then pulled for others

[brave socket]

people that care but not so much

[torn raven]

I see no issue with them finally making more characters useful

Rather than having 50 niche or useless characters and 1 that's good

[green verge]

And having raid unit for specific element banner is nothing new, and people still pull

[brave socket]

uhm...

[broken berry]

Also, casuals will pull for whoever is hot

[brave socket]

not having gems for all ?

maybe ?

[broken berry]

The whales will buy more gems

[sand mesa]

Isn't it only a 20% damage contribution

[torn raven]

You don't need every character lol

[sand mesa]

Either way she'd still be top tier

[brave socket]

surely not now

if they make them all good ?

[broken berry]

80 percent of su revenue comes from 20 percent of the player base

[brave socket]

then we have a problem

[torn raven]

Even if they buff every character and make them useful

[green verge]

And B3 powercreep is relatively slow so far, Alice is still one the the best DPS after 2 years lol

[torn raven]

You still don't need every character

[green verge]

If they are going to powercreep, anniv seems like a good time to do so

[brave socket]

depends. If I can clear every content I consider I dont need them yeah

[frigid pumice]

alice powercreep ?? still support SBS kekw

[brave socket]

the moment I am gated because I miss a character

game is starting to drop points

when 0 points = 👋

[torn raven]

There's no reason you can't have consistently USEFUL(not broke, useful) characters every update. Who is using Rumani? Who is using Tove?

[broken berry]

If they only drop cracked characters on anni (Wich they usually do, Dorothy crown etc)

[green verge]

Two years in, still the top DPS and sSupport lol

[torn raven]

Literally no one.

Everyone sticks with comp

[green verge]

Tbf Tove is a godsent for SG team

[torn raven]

If Tove and Rumani were useful, that's a net positive.

[frigid pumice]

alright buddy lets not put Tove in , shotgun is still consistant/comfy team to clear

[broken berry]

I don't pull for characters only if they're useful, I whale if they're hot, it's why I blew hundreds on crown and rh

[torn raven]

Who's actually running the shotgun team and do the 2 of them clear all content?

[broken berry]

It just so happens alot of the hot characters I pull for are good

[green verge]

Solo raid, many.

I use SG myself

[torn raven]

Guarantee it's not enough to justify trying for Tove.

[green verge]

Debatable but definitely not on the same level as Rumani lol

[torn raven]

Point is, more useful characters is a net win for everyone.

[broken berry]

Personally, I want them to buff nihilister and Isabel, I love them, but they suck ass

[torn raven]

Like this. Imagine if both were actually good.

Rather than niche and lame

[broken berry]

I didn't get nihilister cause she was good, I got her cause hot dragon lady, if she turned out busted, even better, I'd have still gotten her

[sand mesa]

Powercreep isn't an issue in this game with how ass most of the units throughout the year end up being

[torn raven]

Base Quency is less useful Mast

[green verge]

I get Nihil bcs there's othing else to get any way from rehab lol

[sand mesa]

I get the mentality of powercreep bad for most games but Nikke if anything needs more units actually worth getting