#[Cinderella] New Unit Megathread
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Intended to make her unplayable post-testing
Why do you keep defending broken mechs
bruh
I am not defending shit
I am being realist
that's all
they mentioned she was having a new mech
Sure, missing half your shots are the new mech lol
but in her current state Cindy would have difficulties hitting Mother Whale I guess?
"new mech is the same code as palyer covering , deal with it or we have to fix iframing for players too KEK"
Special for Cindy, no one else
Considering it's moving up and down
Can hit if lucky enough, same as GD.
Im just thinking of ways they can get around this for the sake of curiosity because I would be VERY surprised if they just fix it and keep the damage the same. If they do Im not going to complain
just pray to god powercreep doesnt get out of hand
You can already see her "max potential" Damage
It's really strong, but not "the best answer in all situation" strong
So, not like red hood?
idk , I saw tons of pictures until today where she was beating almost everyone , were all of those in training center or what
if it's not going to be so bad then whatever
Pierceable bosses for example, RH or Alice/ Asuka would prob outdamage her on Neutral
Most likely training ground
meh
well lets see what they do
I just know im going to pull mlb and max everything
Sad
They'll do something, I'm sure
I mean, if they come out and say "it's working as intended" I would be fine tbh lol
It would just mean you're supposed to manual her and do the tracking for her
that will not be fine for a lot of players kek
People would not use cindy then, because you would have to gamble if your shots even hit the intended target area
Im reading kr is rioting too
Of course not, which is why I expect them to fix it so she's perfect on auto
RH was the same thing, it was Alice's burst but auto plays perfectly
guys, is she worth the pulls or mileage?
Both
But mileage is best
that 1% rate is not gonna help ya
I consider pulls best tho , mileage is using 200 pulls
You literally have to use Sharingan and predict where the boss would move
and with pulls you can get her earlier or get some other units
Its the same result manual or full auto
Anything that move gonna miss be it mobs or giant boss like mirror container or harvester
Even the newest boss behemoth that made for her miss too
compared to grave? which one is better?
Cindy is better, as she is the mc of the anni
so, Cindy mileage, Grave pull? assuming I only have 200 mileages
She good with liter+crown+RH+Naga?
might be better with Noise + Mast + Volume
oh wow , I got the adv tickets from the free cos gacha rolls , is that rare or fixed ?
Yes, as Cindy is 100% worth having. If you miss her, you miss her for way too long
okay, thank you very much
Okay, I get it with Behemoth
They really released a new Nikke with poor tracking and made the new boss move around like that
manual aiming left and right ok but how do you manual aim cindy shooting further and closer 
The amount of practice needed to learn the tracking is massive
Oh I see it now
I can't get the hang of it even with slow moving enemies
that's pretty funny

So that's what you guys were on about with those gifs, I thought you admired her ass so much while firing
or just wait for patch because shes bugged?
Even Quiry would hit that
its s.neon burst all over again
Well, they have a time limit for SR
If it doesn't seem like they're fixing it right away, I will have to learn how to do manual tracking then
Yea fucking hell the blind rl should be quiry but she hit just fine meanwhile the blind rl one become cindy lol
They say in story that's she's like an airstrike yeh?
just one that hits anaything but the target
The AoE of her shots is tiny and the bullets take too long to reach the target
check notice
A rocket launcher with pathetic AOE?
27.8% atk gif
I think her AoE is same as SBS?
there is no testing to begin with
its all internal
But SBS's slashes are very fast
that's it , letsgo
You know even the mods at maincord says that it was intended so yea the truth is that theres no testing lol
alice?
then some intern-kuns need to be fired 
some maincord mods are... questionable
Pretty much never go to maincord
what do those guys do when people ping them to dab on 'em
how much of a bootlicker do you have to be to not see an issue with it lol
When she gets patched how powerful would Cindy be?
Is she up there with RH and SBS?
damage-wise she's already there
so even if shes bugged shes on par with who?
Now shove that newest notice into his face lol
dont want to get banned for harassment
What about her Burst?
there were screenshots of her damage matching sbs
i assume those screenshots are from big bosses where she can't miss
So like land eater?
The training ground boss is very slow, I think she hits everything there
big bosses?
ur gif doesnt play
or vid
that you were wrong 
Yea its fine there not missing the shot but still miss the core hit
Its not bugged, its intentional.
She has 1 eye covered therefore she cant aim properly
she just woke up from 100 years of sleep
her glass slippers reflecting too much light in her eyes
give her a break
she's too busy twerkin sorry

Anyone know a rough split for Cindy's damage between autos and burst?
lol , the initial pieces rolled like SHIT , but this came out with the first temporal lock LMAO
Would the atk buffs from crown and sanis s1 not work on cindy burst dmg too?
Since they trigger upon entering FBM.
the initial burst will not
sure bud... wtf??? last one I post here Ill go show off if more happen
is crit damage good on her too ?
idk if this is crit chance or damage
man wtf is this luck
idk man
never had this luck , havent used much temp locks until now too
directly to top 5 , not bad
top 3 with cube ,
prolly top 1 when mlb
good , kinda tired of liter by default in co-op
More bugs incoming 
yeah i made a mistake with that earlier
fixed now tho
is that cindy by herself?
Feels like Cindy can easily be powercrept in the future where she stands but still good unit.
If Cindy gets powercrept, then SBS will too 
Hope she gets those fixes
yes
well assumed she doesnt miss half her shit
Just make electric sbs and Cindy is power crept
it's on the game notes already , they are going to fix them
Until you count in her autos issues
Then she aint
I'd rather use sbs in neutral content rn
^
Exactly 
Also, shouldn't be much of an issue in raids
the only place that matters if we're talking about SBS usually

They'll have to keep fixing until it's actually fixed 
if they dont fix it by the time SR is done then SU done fked up lol
From what I understand of it, it shouldn't be a huge issue for SR tho
Mainly a problem in campaign and such
There's no terrain to screw up shots in SR boss fights
Behe is fat enough that with decent aim you should be ok
pogu , pretty lucky with the rolls considering I have 3 useful lines on all pieces but charge speed on head

So we have:
iron sbs
sbs sbs
Electric sbs
When fire and water sbs ?
Who's Iron SBS?
We don't need fire sbs
red hood
We need water...
whats going on with cindy's charge dmg (charge spd 2.28%)
why 213%
Red Hood functions entirely differently than SBS tho
Water is so royally fucked rn
She needs pierce/core to actually do well
Need mermaid to be meta af
Like use RH and SBS vs Nihilister and watch RH do nothing 

Charge dmg
That's iron's main flaw atm really. All units are pierce/core reliant
Also doll prob count towards it
Charge Damage increases the value for charge 
yes i mean why 213%
i got 2.23% charge spd not charge dmg
Check your doll
If you have a doll, that's why
Employee of the month
this is not the right place, wait for a reply in #questioning-centre
SU gonna make cindy's lazer homing?
Should already be homing tbh
werent u down to like
i didnt know that this is 28.9% x 120
1.1b on cindy
and also buffed by maxwell sanis + full burst which i forgot before
it's obscured okay
and this is just me dum dum
? wot? isn't it x12
for real for real
what her normal attacks are actually capable of
oh yeah 10 hits
additional damage on each target
was i the only one miss it
on par with my alice-buffed sbs

theres no way
shush
can I see the full sheet?
the others alrdy had cindy above new midlet
or is it still being worked on, will you post it here somewhere?
I edit out the 100% core
it's 50% now
and made a better modernia team so mod do more damage now
Why 50%
asuka rei mod
even if it was 100% core there's 0 chance cindy hits it 100% of the time anyway 
Isnt sr pinpoint on manual?
uptime of core is not super high
that's awful 
wtf is mod team then
core presence
not core hit rate
Oh
maxwell noir modernia?
oh

asuka is already ass
even worse cuz i made the core 50% now
so i had to switch her out
lol
are you calcing everyone hitting the core the same % of time
what % is cindy at 
i just throw it out
and it's around 40%
How much does SR15 doll increase her DPS btw?
it looks like shit on a mock so i just put it 25%
Since she's always firing full charged 
can u give me like, division of cindy
normal atk vs damage from skills vs damage from burst
out of the 1.42b i mean
Oh right, I'll test Exia vs Maxwell now btw
whats there to test
exia is better

How much
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/12rM8YFjwtQNzfugM36IwuyMDNrYDrHssIdsG7lWjnBw/edit?usp=sharing
here
its simply higher values wdym
raonmiru doesn't have Exia treasure
i didnt calc exia
gimme a few mins ill try
Just gonna get a rough estimate of difference
SR15 compre to SR5?
Also want to see if Exia burst or Rouge burst is more worthwhile
i had but it was a bug calc
gimme a minute to fix it

wtf cindy is already fixed?
time to do the vigor cube thingy for Snake
Patched already?
Oh, I'm getting 100% core hits ez from her now, so maybe 
Will do after this last shooting range run
2.907 bil with Exia (Exia burst), 2.780 bil with Rouge/MW. Now testing Exia (Rouge burst)
projectile speed is increased from 1000 to 1500
wtf
and radius is back to 400
spot radius increase is interesting
Definitely noticeable
from 50
They zoom now
Oh wtf aoe buff?
are you sure?
that's huge
No way
lmao
Standard is 500
what the fuck
Time to try her in campaign again 
Bruhh
im running it back bros
its time
let me open the game again
Campaign meta

400 radius with insane fast speed
@old forge

AoE from 50 to 400, 1.5x increase to projectile speed
i alrdy ingame now
@only mobile in texas
PVP META?? xd jk she has no burst gen
What the hell that's a fuck ton of aoe
must reopen the game
Can she overlap stuff now?
Sssss
Wait is this the right stat
Omg lmao
19mb patch, fixed?
Buffed
Fixed and its huge
Hm, 2.869 bursting with Rouge (not 10/10/10 yet, only 10/8/7)
She got big aoe now
it is absurdly big AoE?
Lmao i bet they couldnt fixed it properly so they just gave her big ass aoe

damn
MC time~
so now meta in campaign for clearing?
she can hit multi parts now too
current meta is death of midrella gangs
The new modernia
Lmao true cause in showcase its the same as before this huge ass thing
wake up honey new cinderella bug just dropped
now every other shot is guaranteed to miss core if armstrong is standing at an angle

and if it's standing right in front of you then miss 100% of shots on core!
how much was mlb sbs again?
So the patch didn't fix anything?
sanis off burst?
Lmao su trying to be unique with that curve shot but its make a lots of bug
the patch prob fixed outright missing in some situations but it fucked being able to connect with the part you wanted to hit
10+ %

Why does this game always have bugs
why such a massive diff
Skull
Yeah
The curved shots are the problem
And that's a 92% ele Ein vs 48% ele Cindy
lmfao
probably team dependency
heh
I'm in campaign rn, will prob finish it before I update
Yea why not just shot a linear laser lol
It's not even lasers it's more like plasma
@modest nest is she still 3 hit/s?
her projectile speed is faster now
idk if it affects fire rate
how dare you to try hitting core hit at arm length
simply unacceptable
Have they fixed the bug already?
why did they have to make the projectile arcing
They buffed her and made bug worse
just make it travel in a straight line....

SU fuck up when trying to make unique thing seems impossible lol
now she's more like SBS than ever
holy fuck
non core specialist
someone make another feedback in maincord
did we got a bugfix
There was an attempt
it's not
You know what happen when we got bugfix?
Yes another bug
it is
it is still like that since this early day
she doesnt whiff anymore right tho?
this is must a bug

someone make a new bug report 
no
the chance is around 20% iirc
does she still miss ?
earlier in the day you can connect with core at about ~80%
yeah
you are on meth lol
now the chance of core hitting is like 10%
cause you prob had auto aim on
Even in close range she still miss
lmao wtf is this
shooting range boss is different from raid boss
should just try on A.i now
I can say Tsuki landed more core hit before hot fix cause i was testing with him
But now we can't core hit anymore
Listen
Even I missed core hit
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in close range

the dumb arcing man 
oh we landing less core now 
Pre-patch footage, look at how I am hitting core majority of the time:
look good on MC at least
yeah that's sound about right. Because strong arm is 1 body so no splash
Yeah, it's a problem close range
each instance is 1 ammo
yea cuz no land, the projectile doesnt hit the ground lmao
Using Liter instead of Rouge for a union mate who lacks Rouge
why cant these retarded devs just make the arc just a visual effect and have rocket trace go straight forwards as the actual damaging actor

around like 95%+ core hit rate on far and medium right now
but near is a mess
now post patch, clearly missing majority ^
(Cindy has half Ein's element and only +0 OLs vs Ein's +5)
difference is obvious
How can they say they fixed it 
or a
miss
Maybe it did fix hitting moving raptures
miss more on close range but more acc far away
they said optimised, not fixed
Did you guys know this?
Dev standard is too low if like this is optimize lol
Hahahahaa
did't charge burst dmg /
charge burst dmg
burst dmg double by charge
one of my co-worker was always busy to fix the bugs he made 
it got double
this should be considering as bug right?
Is that the harran bug?

and also alice
what?
"charge first shot go brrrr" that bug
so how much meth you still think I'm smoking 
i rmb this
harran ghost coming back 
from rough check, it's around 17 core hit over 24 ammo
except the instance of dmg are way more than 24

I will count again
if this is bug then....cindy mid?
no
you can just see that in the post patch every other hit misses core if the boss is at an angle
she should still be above sbs
Is cindy good
specifically if the boss is on the left, the shot that arches left will hit core, the shot that arches right will miss
ignore that bug
be happy
isn't her dmg lots come from burst?
if the boss is RIGHT IN FRONT OF CINDERELLA, all hits will miss core!
no longer on meth, sorry mate
my bad
yes
so bug = good
cuz more free dmg
i dont even know how they managed to do that
i dont understand
basically
all the shots will curve
and then collide with the boss's concave hitbox (speculation)
before it reaches the core
dumb arcing pattern that doesn't adapt to range
maybe, but I am def just speculating
seems like the core is embedded in a bit
I guess that's why they made her ammo had 50 radius
so much for "new mechanic" huh dev? totally hitting all obstacles
realistically i dont see this happening anywhere else but UR lol
like the core missing
so they raise back the radius, she now can't hit core easily anymore
honestly I think they need to just change the trajectory
because funny hit box
It hit the boss hit box before the core
pick your poison,
you either hit less but more accurate core hits, or hit more but less accurate core hits 
or.... remove her core hit capabilities, and buff her auto dmg to as if she can core hit reliably 
that would be the lazy solution
Her fate is really to go blind lol
What happens if they reduced the radius form 400 to 200? 
probably keep her radius and less core hits but bump her 2.71%
make her pierce until she hits core 
like a heart-seeking missile or something
although that prob breaks some other fight
i assume from no Doll to SR 15 it's like 8~9% dps gain ?
so, current bugs
am I the only one who think s2 is kinda mid
it's mid as hell
~~Current Bugs
- Harran charge bug but only for cinderella on first part of her AoE burst nuke
- Cannot hit core on near
Cinderella Improvements this Patch
- Can core hit almost 100% on medium and far
Note: there is no icreased AoE radius, its just the projectile size was widened making her normal atks actually hit opponents. The splash radius is still shit which is intended and not bugged.~~
no bug anymore

Yea its mid should have given her pierce when at max stacks of beauty lol
anyone checked if she can now hit cover or even 2 targets in pvp
prob less 
Welp, 80% element now and
from near-sightedness to far-sightedness, brilliant
Poor Ein 
yes, i sent a video above
aginst what?
of pvp?
yes
oh I found it
mlb?

with i have more than 0% cindy
would really help
visible difference now in low deficit campaign
maybe i should slot in rouge to make it 30% 

it's clear that cindy outdoes ein by like a mile and a half
yeah but before, cindy wasnt killing anyone but tanky raptures
I mean, anni pilgrim vs standard unit
now she is killing everyone
Definitely seems like Cindy is SSS
So Cinderella was fixed or she's still broken?
huh? did they improve her dmg or something
Yeah, but Ein true damage vs MC DEF gimmick 
or is that just from the aoe
Broken in a diffferent way
she is actually HITTING raptures now
So while still buggy, she's really good now?>
Good or bad way?
i guess she straight up wasnt HITTING anyone
She's stronger now as long as enemies aren't close to her
how much is this
29% should be ok
core hit is only an issue on close range right
welp

Lmao

there goes her weakness lmao
hey at least they're listening to feedback
what timing is this lol
Unlimited bug fix
Devs listened momento
didn't they test before release ?
they clearly didn't
any bets on what will get broken this time?
both issues were found on the VERY FIRST DAY of release
we pay to be testers
i found the dumb bug within the first 3 minutes of playing lol
if this isn't an indication of no testers, I don't know what is
unlimited bug works
Cindy auto trolled and hit the glass slipper lmfao
Any chance now s1 miss and wont proc lol
i mean
can you blame her ?

fuck i didnt check the score
is the core hit the only issue atm
but yeah she did fine on a wall stage
She apparently has old harran bug now
macro ein
?
true power of ein
what's that
of course i did
lol
can she 1 tap slippers?
yep
wall stage
need to use the first shot
she's doing absolutely fine on the average high deficit now 

even mirror container snake
she stronk
no pause scum
mid player like me doing stage 7
what's the old harran bug btw
casual/waifu collector
is your ein build up ?
have you tried ein instead of naga and keeping sanis offburst
Sadge
yeah I tried but my ein too mid
You can charge burst like normal atk by holding the button when bursting
the patch so bad omg
cindy auto aim all around crosshair enemy, just don't hit the main target
wot
did they make her meta defining now?
how about mw ?, I feel like naga is mostly wasted on that team but she still is hard to replace
like... if you hold down burst she doesn't do it until you release?
she already was
heal needed
im noob
defining? idk about that
like after fix, isn't she the best boss dps in the game
in neutral
auto0 player
if core hit gets fixed, she prob is
wait which but
I need someone to test.
huh? the harran bug?
Cindy damage without bug.
the harran bug
I tought she missed cores
no ignore that core
who cares
She do it but the damage inflated cause you charge it lol
the harran bug is king
oh wow
I can leak them via prydwen guide.
ono
theres a bug?
so hold down burst button, to have burst do more dmg

holy fuck that isn't fixed?>
that thing is ancient
fuking SU just make her shot become beam, thats simple and ez

Hahaha.
life is happy here
all fixed then nice 
its all fine and good
is it worth considering HP cube
absolutely no bug ok
ok
Her 10 hits on burst skill is inflated due to bug.
Holding full charge while firing gives the burst skill the charge multiplier
come back tomorrow for answer 
ohh
My charge dmg is 226%
wait then she gotta have reloaded before right? since she can't hold charge when pew pewing
yea
wait she can't hold charge at all
oh
it's trickier than it seems yeah
yeah but it's fun if it stays :cope:
she's definitily stronk
Time to mention it in prydwen
snake said she's doing well on campaign now
shut up
i have a video on 29% deficit now
before this patch, it was pretty much impossible to expect cindy to do this lol

she's tier SSS now chat ?
that's good enough to recommend most ppl to use her
alrdy was in bossing

half her shots didn't hit before in campaign 🥸
you know whats interesting, i used the same team comp
no big carry except crown either :c
just wait for another few hot fix 
and i also stopped manualling ein
nooo I want her to stay shitty because I'm a hipster 
so that i can see
but now we're having problem on close range core hit
how well cindy is doing
Guys, my joke became real... I said SU fix Cinder by introduce more bug to her
in campaign core hitting from an RL doesnt matter much
and yup, she misses core-shot in medium to close range.
cuz it would only be on one unit
Theres already a notice regarding this
Bro no way they fixed a bug then implemented another 
it's not a bug
just an issue
yeah it's an issue when they tried to fix a bug

29% deficit mob only stage
I should become a fortunate teller 
hey she really good on MC A.I now 
Bad stat issue
so she'll carry me in hard campaign mc as well probably
will she replace anyone in neutral campaign though...
i can try..
i mean
imo
this is purely emilia powercreep for campaign 
I dont think we will replace anyone in stages push tho
I have been doing only just 1 comp
emilia powercreep 
RH Crown Naga Mod MW
who the hell uses emilia in campaign once they get proper dps
But now im doing Liter Crown RH SBS Naga and it's more comfy
Been doing the same comp for a year now


it's not like u need to use any actual comps to clear it
yeah it's a comp that allow you to kill everything in first Mod burst, then MW burst to nuke the boss
wdym, I cleared on other accounts too
I wont talk like this if I only auto
i report the bug

they need to make her powercreeps
haiya
to fix that dmg gap
mama mia
what damage gap u on lol
so fuuking low
double dmg
even without the bug
even with
outperformed 50% ele ein against crystal chamber EX
Different bug
so what
They should raise it if they fix the bug tho
if they made it the same they'd have to criple her damage
and it would reduce her comp viability
you'd get into a situation where you need HP buffs no matter what
current tuning is great because she can work with both HP buffs and ATK buffs
did someone double check her firerate
eyeballing it, it seems a bit faster than 3/sec
if you ask to increase HP scaling while fixing Harran bug, that would most likely lead to a net nerf
faster projectile
not really faster AS
I got what you're saying now
Cinder without bugs would become the best Pilgrim ever

they just need to powercreep her not bugcreep her
the harran bug is effectively a buff
im fine with powercreep not bug
and it's one of the best possible buffs to her
bro even without bug she should be on sbs level
dont worry
which is direct dmg increase on her burst
this bug is great for her
increases her DPS by ~20%
and is mostly braindead to make it go off
with cindy at 60% ele
30% deficit is nothing for electric weak stages 
and thats gonna be fixed
they haven't said if it's intentional or not

so they need to expain about harran
anyway if they removed this bug and then buffed her S1 HP value
that would most likely be a nerf
compared to current
why cindy can have that harran can't
what are ch25 walls if anyone remembers, i wanna see if i can use cindy to pass a neutral wall at 28%+ 
then write it on the skill kit
her skills are trash to begin with
cant wait to see 3.0 incident
she needs a treasure rework to be good
either way I am big fan of making this "bug" a "feature"

is the bug back on every unit?
or just cindy?
just cinderella
if they write it down , im fine with that
I already tried some shenanigans with S.Sakura
and Harran
there were no interactions that resulted in what happens with Cinderella
otherwise "final dmg' shouldnt including charge dmg
Send truck to ask them to keep it
Why do you think bug back on every unit?
that would cause a bigger mess up
Wait what’s going on with Cindy?
You think SU wont cause a bigger mess?
the old school yuni bug liter bug
omg lapgod
@modest nest @old forge
What is that
not cindy bug, just saying
i just yeet Laplace of my sheet 
its campaign dw
honestly, running cindy sbs would be so goated for campaign 
lol
Double RL DPS? Rem stonks? 
id put redhood or alice in flex slot for burst gen ig
thats low deficit solved
what bug today? does dev accidentanly buff her?
50% chance miss core on close to medium shooting range
There was an in-game notice saying Cindy's basic attack was fixed. Has anyone tested again?
yes, they didn't go check all things about bugs
that it's a remnant of the bug we first report
people said the put old bug harran on cindy
is that her burst going inflated damage?
It's 'fixed'
then SU announces they are aware of the new bugs.
which I just mention
along with other bugs affect QoL of NIKKE
not both
just the initial 10
oh ok




























