[Cinderella] New Unit Megathread

[chilly kernel]

Is dupe HP scaling also ~2%?

[lament wigeon]

thats 12 aditional attacks for 28%

[signal hollow]

yep Cinderella is gonna be nuts with bosses

[plucky rampart]

Kinda feel we need to burst second with her so we can max stacks fast lol
But whats the use of max stacks anyway

[signal hollow]

28% x12

[noble cipher]

Considering that her attack and burst are most of her value

[nimble crypt]

I just need her skill 1 can break glass slipper

[slate apex]

682.96% x 10 = 6829.6%

• 28.9% x 12 = 346.8% additional x 10 (hits) = 3468%
  = 10.297,6% total

[nimble crypt]

without pause scum

[noble cipher]

and Cindy's 2nd skill just gives her more HP on her decoy + ~18% bonus health

[fallen quartz]

damn

[noble cipher]

I'd bet it's 10/7/10

[fallen quartz]

just 10/10/10 her

[plucky rampart]

Yea beauty at max stacks should have given something

[signal hollow]

• that 6.8k% initially

[toxic wren]

decoy needs to stay alive for 3×12 seconds

[signal hollow]

so it's already bonkers on paper

[toxic wren]

half a min

[noble cipher]

It might be that the number of max stacks depends on the skill level

[fallen quartz]

Iirc, decoy doesn't take cover?

[elder pier]

10,297.6% with max stacks

[noble cipher]

which directly impacts how much damage Cindy's buret can do

[fallen quartz]

and shield doesn't work on decoy

[molten oak]

Anti synergy with crown

[slate apex]

why?

[leaden frigate]

Guys, use XRupee with Cindy to make her reload faster

[slate apex]

ah shit yea

[noble cipher]

You wouldn't want to pair up Cindy with Crown anyway

[rigid cosmos]

why is that?

[signal hollow]

damn the xrupee propaganda is real

[molten oak]

Shield

[noble cipher]

Crown is likely going with the Ein + S.Anis + Exia team

[nimble crypt]

rouge and mast cinderella companion

i think rouge, mast, cinderella, anis, flex

[deft obsidian]

Wait, if we get 100% reload, does she never have to charge more than once?

[rigid cosmos]

yes

[fallen quartz]

Crown can Shield Cinder

[nimble crypt]

for arrangement so mast, flex, cinderella, rouge, anis

[fallen quartz]

but not the Decoy

[wheat vault]

gonna be funny interacting with thermite

[fallen quartz]

and Decoy can't be healed either

[noble cipher]

Not actually sure?

[slate apex]

what's your math behind this? 28.9% times 12 = 346.8

[leaden frigate]

Go on, slot XRupee into that “flex” spot

[elder pier]

it also hits x10

[sullen forum]

How big is that s1 damage ?

[nimble crypt]

i wonder if Cindy going against Thermite B

[noble cipher]

Because when you hit 100% reload speed, you technically reload between every shot

unless you use an SMG / MG / etc.

[fallen quartz]

Wait a sec... I think Crown can shield the decoy, as her shield is in front of the cover.

[molten oak]

Not mentioned, only the first part

[deft obsidian]

Someone test with Rei/Delta

[nimble crypt]

wow cindy with great kits

thermite B: i don't think so

[fallen quartz]

Poli/Delta

[noble cipher]

If nothing else, I'd bet that Cindy probably wants to stack ammo + Bastion

[fallen quartz]

Crown shield work similar like Poli

[elder pier]

affects the same targets

[noble cipher]

to just keep firing for as long as possible

[deft obsidian]

No, Crown shield is like Tia

[fallen quartz]

Test both then

[deft obsidian]

Poli/Centi/Blanc have self-casted shields

[fallen quartz]

I can't do it right now

[ivory heath]

1x max ammo line if her shots work like rh burst. 2 if like Alice with gaming chair/max ammo
Rest into ele dmg charge speed and crit

[molten oak]

[fallen quartz]

...why not just test Crown directly

[deft obsidian]

I meant test Rei or Delta

[ivory heath]

Atk isn’t necessary since she’s defender

[maiden thicket]

I think that 28.9% is x10 too

[deft obsidian]

since those are our decoy units

[ivory heath]

And she has 100% cs

[molten oak]

Yeah my bad

[fallen quartz]

ah yes, I forgot Rei have a decoy too

[leaden frigate]

Shield the Cindy decoys with a taunt unit 🗣️

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1059468005911830558/1146339692552409148/ezgif-3-5bc7f7dea9.gif

[fallen quartz]

Shielder should be enough

[toxic wren]

ok atk buffs are ASS on this kut

[maiden thicket]

28.9% is an extra dmg on 1 682.96% hit

[toxic wren]

kit

[fallen quartz]

or else her decoy is really fragile

[toxic wren]

dont get atk lol

[molten oak]

Charge damage then?

[maiden thicket]

And if u have stack, it repeats 10 times

[leaden frigate]

Crit Cindy

[fallen quartz]

Just max ammo and ele

why charge dmg lol

[pliant plover]

so ammo, ele and crit chance?

[maiden thicket]

She's a defender

Prob only herself is enough

[molten oak]

[dark flame]

Hmm

[molten oak]

X4 ele X1 ammo

[maiden thicket]

2 decoys should be more than enough for 3 minutes fight

[molten oak]

Done

[rigid cosmos]

always attacks at full charge i guess

[worldly pelican]

Dont worry if its mid Cindy we riot and its meta cindy

[leaden frigate]

Coward, go 4x ammo

[elder pier]

can she spawn 2 decoys?

[ivory heath]

Summing up again
1 ammo line if she can’t be spammed like Alice (similar to rh burst). 2 if she can
4x ele
Rest is charge dmg or crit lines
Super noob friendly to build

[fallen quartz]

Yup

[elder pier]

or does it just refresh

[sullen forum]

What could be memed here ? Her basic scaling maybe

[fallen quartz]

The second have a condition, starting from 3rd cycle

[maiden thicket]

And she should

Respawn decoy

[fallen quartz]

respawn, not refresh

she can't heal decoy

[maiden thicket]

Every full burst if her decoy get destroyed

[fallen quartz]

Every full burst, not 3rd cycle, my bad

[faint mountain]

Do we know if Cinderella has a dual weapon or not ? 32% normal attack seem a bit low, it's like Noah.

[molten oak]

Important things are copies and lvl all gears

And rouge

[worldly pelican]

Especially chest

[deft obsidian]

A rock cheap meta DPS

[pliant plover]

sr 15 doll is important lol

[frigid pumice]

remember 6%

[deft obsidian]

Yeah, she wants DR

[dull osprey]

It respawn every time u enter b3?

[lime valve]

Don't have Rouge

just Frima

[molten oak]

XD

[lime valve]

Frima, Mast Cindy, Dolla, Quiry

[leaden frigate]

Now use XRuper with her

[plucky rampart]

Too bad cindy not the true damage savior lol

[leaden frigate]

[noble cipher]

It's low, but keep in mind that you keep firing the rest of your magazine machine gun style with 100% charge speed

[molten oak]

Is anybody doing maths?

[pliant plover]

not just the dr, also the huge extra hp

[noble cipher]

until you reload

[fallen quartz]

ah yes, most units nobody build beside Mast

[molten oak]

I'm working and checking my phone

[fallen quartz]

[frigid pumice]

and each shot at full charge gives like 130% more additional dmg

[leaden frigate]

Ima bout to build a Cindy with 4x ele/ammo/chrg dmg

[rigid cosmos]

is full charge a straight multiplier or is it like crit and does weird things?

[leaden frigate]

Big mag go brrrrr

[molten oak]

Well yeah

Why not X2 ammo X2 critical DMG?

[noble cipher]

tldr; It's like Scarlet BS. Cinderella hits more often, so she does a bit lower damage per hit to compensate, and you raise her 1st skill so that her basic attacks hit harder

[molten oak]

[leaden frigate]

No

[molten oak]

go critical fish

[pliant plover]

[leaden frigate]

I don’t have SW built for a reason

[sullen forum]

Does she lose all stacks when she bursts ?

[elder pier]

straight multiplier but chrg dmg buffs from OL for example add to it

[leaden frigate]

lazy

[noble cipher]

As far as the reference card indicates, no

[lime valve]

people build Mast?

[molten oak]

Whales

[fallen quartz]

yes

she still have some uses

[molten oak]

4/4/10 mast

[fallen quartz]

unlike those other

beside, she is the core of HP comp always

[noble cipher]

However, if your decoy dies, she won't get another one until your next burst

[fallen quartz]

Mast is a safe investment, but not a high priority

[molten oak]

Need a taunter

[pliant plover]

due to how often she hits cpnsistent crits should be superior right?

[sullen forum]

I remember we memed somebody for being a 2b support

And I said I bet cindy will be hp scaling too

[nimble crypt]

but SBS at least could wipe mobs

[noble cipher]

I'll be curious to see if we get Noise/Mast/Cinderella/Rouge/2B teams

[rigid cosmos]

crown

[sullen forum]

Who was that unit

[broken berry]

Mast probably

[sullen forum]

Not mast

[nimble crypt]

cindy attack random enemy, i don't know if one is killed, can retarget

[sullen forum]

Someone newer

[noble cipher]

If nothing else, Cinderella doesn't have expensive tastes. You can pair her with off-meta Nikke

[elder pier]

crit might be better than chrg dmg since a good chunk of her dmg comes from skill dmg.
but priority should be ele + ammo

[sullen forum]

Right rouge

Man su never misses

[nimble crypt]

rouge burst must be lv10, right?

i think i'm gonna reset srossana

[lost zinc]

No atk?

[ivory heath]

Defender atk scaling is crap

[sullen forum]

Sroca and Mari reset time

[noble cipher]

or even just pair her with Blanc + Rouge, and hope you get lucky with Blanc's Max HP / Indomitability buff

[molten oak]

10/7/10 I guess

[ivory heath]

And OL atk lines don’t benefit from the max hp atk buff

[molten oak]

10/10/10 to maximize dmg

[topaz rampart]

rouge from 7/4/4 to 7/10/10

[fallen quartz]

God, luckily I decided to get Rogue

[molten oak]

Tryhars people needs S1 to 10

[fallen quartz]

Rogue/Mast/Cindy

[sullen forum]

imagine skipping a B1 cdr

[molten oak]

[fallen quartz]

there, the core of max HP team

[plucky rampart]

Whos the other dps for her

[molten oak]

Crazy people

[pliant plover]

mari for me

[fallen quartz]

I have DWife and Liter

[ivory heath]

2b or maybe Maxwell

[fallen quartz]

[sullen forum]

Rouge mast cindy 2b noir

[noble cipher]

2B, most likely

[sullen forum]

Trust

[lime valve]

Blame Rei A for nuking my pulls

[noble cipher]

She's the only other unit that benefits offensively from stacking Max HP

[fallen quartz]

^

[lime valve]

I did try to fish for Rouge but nothing

[nimble crypt]

mari this raid hmm

behemoth throwing rocks every time

[leaden frigate]

L bozo

[fallen quartz]

Rogue come right after meta collab

[topaz rampart]

Rem need to rest for now, water weak has passed

[fallen quartz]

so many players skip her

[fallen quartz]

because they want to save for Anniversary

[sullen forum]

What are they gonna do pull on anni

[ivory heath]

Hmm how about rouge mast sanis Cinderella privaty

[fallen quartz]

Rogue banner was released at a bad time tbh

[ivory heath]

Is it too much copium

[plucky rampart]

This unit really reject to die lol

[sullen forum]

Bricked players man

[fallen quartz]

Her kits are very good, niche

[sullen forum]

At this point 2b reset was a mistake

[fallen quartz]

Heck, she will be used more than A2

[noble cipher]

Look, when Shift Up releases a new niche, they usually follow up with new units in the same niche

[sullen forum]

Already is

[molten oak]

https://tenor.com/view/copium-gif-766857345458198993

[plucky rampart]

I know mine still 4/10/10

[ivory heath]

But I feel like the real broken anniv unit here will be grave

[pliant plover]

lets wait for graves final kit, I still think these are 2 units they would make so they can work rogether well

[torn raven]

2B/Rouge/Cindy/Mast...who would be the 5th unit in this combo?

[ivory heath]

Waiting for her kit

[noble cipher]

I'd bet that more health stackers will appear in the next few months, or during the Christmas event

[nimble crypt]

but her burst attacks random enemy

i don't think if she good in campaign

[fallen quartz]

not really, it was a long time until 2B get secondary max HP friend, Mast

then come Rogue

now Cndy

[topaz rampart]

which one gives more damage, mast or blanc in Rouge-cindy comp?

[noble cipher]

The downside is just that 2B is from a collab event that we'll likely never get a rerun on

[ivory heath]

Mast was released before 2b wym

[fallen quartz]

Also, that suck for players skip Nier banners, or new players

[fallen quartz]

oh, my bad

[lime valve]

I have like 500 SSR molds by then, I'll get Rouge for sure

[sullen forum]

I love anni when I can just spark and move on

And save pulls for next banners

[leaden frigate]

Nah, I’d gamble

[lime valve]

[fallen quartz]

Cindy is safe for MLB

[leaden frigate]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1162985123134853171.gif?size=96&quality=lossless

[molten oak]

https://tenor.com/view/xqc-gambling-gamble-gambler-gambling-addiction-gif-25801242

[fallen quartz]

copy does give more atk and HP

[icy tree]

What cube for Cindy?

[noble cipher]

Phantom / Quincy: Escape Queen / Rogue will be added to the Ordinary Recruit pool tomorrow anyway

[noble cipher]

Bastion or Vigor, most likely

[frigid pumice]

isnt HP scalling a bit more if convert

[fallen quartz]

Bastion and Resilience

[sullen forum]

Bastion probably

[lime valve]

Ehehehe....about that

[fallen quartz]

HP aside, you want her to reload less mainly

[heavy scaffold]

is there any rem coper

[delicate talon]

isn't there a new cube this patch>

[lime valve]

I burned the free blue tickets already

[noble cipher]

heh

[lime valve]

[sullen forum]

Why

[delicate talon]

might want to see whats the next cube they're adding

[leaden frigate]

spend gems

[sullen forum]

You could have waited for the Alice dupes

[noble cipher]

Because if we had good impulse control, we wouldn't be playing Gacha games

[fallen quartz]

You can use Vigor cube on Cindy, it's also good

[molten oak]

You have to

[torn raven]

I just got vigor cube like 2 hours ago lmao, wouldn't mind using it

[lime valve]

I only saw parts of the stream, I wasn't aware of the free Alice

it was too late

[nimble crypt]

bastion fi your bastion lv13

ele dmg uber alles

[frigid pumice]

hmm why not Blanc , her burst 2 debuff kinda strong

[nimble crypt]

vigor in elsewhere

[simple dock]

is it worth to pull cindy?
my pilgrims i have all of them are B3, but i also lack pilgrim defender

[frigid pumice]

as the 5th

[hollow pebble]

yo.. Rouge best in slot for Cinderella

huge hp buffs

[fallen quartz]

Yes, Rogue/Mast/Cindy

the rest need to be test

[nimble crypt]

2B

as sub dmg

but you can change to Anis

[topaz rampart]

mast buffing cindy, blanc buffing cindy and the other b3, unless pairing cindy with 2b

[hollow pebble]

mb Bunny team? Blanc buffs hp too?

[leaden frigate]

Dw, I’ll be the brave soul to test Cindy + XRuper

[torn raven]

Iirc her max HP buff doesn't need her to be in a burst, right? You might be onto something here.

[fallen quartz]

like I said, need to test

but 2B will likely be 2nd B3

the last slot is flex then

[simple dock]

should i pull cindy or no?
the pilgrim units i have (rh, smol white, and harran) are all B3s, and i need B1 and B2
but also i lack defender pilgrims

[fallen quartz]

or two flex, when you don't have 2B

[torn raven]

Finally a reason to use my max core 2B

[fallen quartz]

Yes, get Cindy

[vale forge]

2Booty id so backkk

[nimble crypt]

get crown

[sullen forum]

Flex would be noir for more ammo

And reload

[nimble crypt]

because all your problem in Nikke can be solved by crown

[gloomy quartz]

Well well

[nimble crypt]

or wait for Grave kit

[gloomy quartz]

What’s the consensus on the numbers? Feels kinda underwhelming

[fallen quartz]

bruh

we have math here

[dusk depot]

Anything about Rem?

[fallen quartz]

you can scroll up to read

[brave socket]

[vale forge]

Rouge-Mast-2B-Cindy-Flex?

[dusk depot]

[fallen quartz]

yup

flex on 2B if you skip her

[torn raven]

I don't see a way for Grave to work with Cindy at this point, she seems focused on pierce and Cindy aint got none of that.

[dull osprey]

Some healing as pos5

[fallen quartz]

Alright, who the heck in here told me to reset 2B few months ago, huh

[vale forge]

doesnt rouge got heals?

[nimble crypt]

rearrange

mast-flex-cindy-rouge-2b

[dull osprey]

Never read rouge kit

[leaden frigate]

Inb4 Grave gives ammo buffs or whatever

[fallen quartz]

nope

[dull osprey]

Only know she has cdr

[fallen quartz]

MaxHP without restore

[noble cipher]

Rouge needs to be in position 2 or 4

[dull osprey]

[torn raven]

Ill eat crow lmao

[noble cipher]

for her kit to function

[hollow pebble]

massive hp bonuses

[sacred grove]

good thing you can reset others for 2b now

[dull osprey]

Too much text, not gonna read

[fallen quartz]

Cindy/Rogue/2B/Mast/Flex
There, correct set up

[torn raven]

Could Frima work for a healer on Cindy comp? Or is she just not that good?

[fallen quartz]

I want to reset Guilotine so badly, but she is the only god in Elysion tower.

[topaz rampart]

Rouge can heal a tiny bit

[fallen quartz]

depend

Decoy can't be healed

[molten oak]

Poor snake

[torn raven]

Good point

[wind matrix]

But she get new decoy every burst 3 no?

[fallen quartz]

however, max hp buff does increase chance of survival for Decoy

[wind matrix]

So..maybe it's fine?

[sand mesa]

So what are we thinking so far

[brave socket]

Also decoy is purely defensive , beauty stacks never drop no ??

[molten oak]

Just don't burn the kitchen snake

[fallen quartz]

as Decoy's HP based on final Max HP of Cindy

[molten oak]

[fallen quartz]

respawn

[sullen forum]

I don't think decoy will be popped

[fallen quartz]

meaning you don't want her decoy to die when off burst

[sullen forum]

it doesn't taunt or anything

[fallen quartz]

as it slap her dps away

don't let her decoy die ever

[wind matrix]

Yeah, i guess

[ornate nymph]

I wonder if, on the off chance that ShiftUp forgot to check it, that Rei's decoy healing skills can heal Cindy's decoy.

[torn raven]

So Flex could be either bunny, Frima...maybe Noise?

[fallen quartz]

I don't know if Mast's fake HP work on Decoy or not

If it does, Decoy have even more greater survival chance

[wind matrix]

Are decoy always have built in taunt?

[fallen quartz]

no

[torn raven]

Decoy has no taunt

[fallen quartz]

It just a meat shield

[wind matrix]

Oh, good..guess only rei that does

[noble cipher]

Probably Noise. Noise can heal the party in a pinch, can offset 2B's terrible burst generation, and keep Cindy's decoy alive

[brave socket]

Why is decoy dying bad , beauty is continuous

[fallen quartz]

Decoy is her source of dps

[brave socket]

You will lose stacking it anymore for a few seconds

The decoy does damage ??

[noble cipher]

Because you lose Beautiful stacks if the decoy dies

[fallen quartz]

you want her dps always peak

[nimble crypt]

so Cindy must not get highest ATK

should be else

to not destroy decoy

[acoustic field]

Weak.

[fallen quartz]

Beautiful buff Max HP when decoy exist, which more HP mean more DPS

[sullen forum]

it should

[brave socket]

I don't get that meaning from the description

[nimble crypt]

but, against Behemoth, she has ram attack so she will destroy decoy

[sullen forum]

it's final hp

[brave socket]

You get a stack when it's alive

[acoustic field]

Very weak unit.

Skippable.

[fallen quartz]

need test, I don't trust SU on 'it perharp'

[wind matrix]

Oh, one more thing

When you cover, do decoy get protected as well?

[sullen forum]

Guys I don't think you lose stacks

When decoy dies

[nimble crypt]

no, just there

[brave socket]

That's what I said

[nimble crypt]

but your cover still alive

[wind matrix]

As shit

[sullen forum]

You need decoy to be there for initial gain

[brave socket]

Decoy being alive is the condition for getting a stack , not for keeping it

[wind matrix]

So..enemy attack prioritized decoy over anything else

[nimble crypt]

so enemy destroy decoy -> cover -> nikke

[fallen quartz]

It can go two ways: disappear at all OR decrease stack per second

I bet on disappear all

[acoustic field]

Why yall debate on a weak unit?

[fallen quartz]

as there is no text about stack decrease per second

[brave socket]

Neither is mentioned

It says CONTINUOUS

[acoustic field]

Shes even weaker than RH

[brave socket]

It doesn't mention dropping stacks at all

[ocean terrace]

it doesn't even sound like her stacks disappear

[brave socket]

Or needing the decoy alive to keep them

[nimble crypt]

AoE enemy attack will destroy decoy

Behemoth ram attack, nihilister burn, storm bringer tornado

[fallen quartz]

need test then

[ocean terrace]

only that it increases every 3s if a decoy exists

[brave socket]

It's not there

[fallen quartz]

Decoy can't be healed or take cover, however it can be buff max HP, and maybe shield can cover it ass

[dark flame]

Yeah if they disappeared when decoy die, it definitely should be written there..

[torn raven]

Do stacks decay?

[ember grove]

Nothing indicates they do

[brave socket]

It doesn't say so based on the description , some people say they might. I don't think so

[fallen quartz]

I lose trust on SU translate kits, have you seen Rapunzel's kits?

[wind matrix]

Decaying stack never happen in this game, so yeah..i'm leaning towards disappear completely

[oak cargo]

I better not seeing you complain like a hoho later why u didnt get copy

[torn raven]

Damn, so basically if you get 12 stacks decoy works strictly as decoy

[dark flame]

It seems they just stop getting more when decoy is dead, but stay the same ?

[wind matrix]

Stack always gone when they missed

[fallen quartz]

opposite of continuous is decay

[brave socket]

There's a problem , it says continuous there

[fallen quartz]

so two theories like I said

[acoustic field]

Yeah shes useless

[wind matrix]

Hmm..hope you right

[fallen quartz]

+1+1+1+1
-1-1-1-1

there, continuous and decay

[dusty tundra]

Increase atk by 2.7% defendet max hp translate to increase atk by 29.7% attacker’s atk

[acoustic field]

I would get rumani seeing this weak hero lmao

[dark flame]

Was hers translated wrong?

[sullen forum]

I think she keeps stack. As the 3rd alternative

[brave socket]

Well if it's translated wrong you can complain and you'll have your ani drama

[fallen quartz]

yeah, shield herself (instead of shield allies, her shield is like Centi's shield)

[oak cargo]

Ok push the tierlist early so i can wrap shiet up

[acoustic field]

Her damage is the same as RH prebuff

[fallen quartz]

I mean, Rapunzel already lit it

[sullen forum]

Time to riot for a buff

We want power creep

[sacred grove]

what is the slogan this time?

[sullen forum]

At least they didn't lie on stream

[torn raven]

Yeah even if she's meta and game breaking we need a buff

[elder pier]

Miderella

[brave socket]

She's free soo I don't see a case

[torn raven]

Buff Miderella

[sullen forum]

Punzel is really good for a b1 with almost no alternative

[brave socket]

Pretty much

[sullen forum]

I'm calling the Sr team will be Cindy rouge 2b mast noir

[dark flame]

Oh lmao

[brave socket]

Investing in 2b again

I think I'll reset shotgun team , they do shit most of the time

[molten oak]

Why 2b, that unit is a dog shit guys

...

[sullen forum]

[brave socket]

Maybe cuz you're using 2 hp buffers

[topaz rampart]

is electric weak, better put something like guilo in there

[molten oak]

Bad

[brave socket]

Idk if another attacker would do more

[dull osprey]

Reset SG team is a suicidal

[nimble crypt]

so behemoth team

crown with ein-anis
tiga with alice-sbs
blanc-noir Scarlet-RH
Max HP team
SG MPriv

[fallen quartz]

^

[sullen forum]

Wdym sg team is goated

[brave socket]

Idk mine are invested and I don't see them doing much ever

[fallen quartz]

Imagine Behemoth can fart

Fart hit both Cindy and decoy

[dull osprey]

Soda is better than RH already

[nimble crypt]

she will ram you and throw rocks

[simple dock]

what's the chance of off-rate pilgrims in pilgrim banner?

sadly i missed her banner
and i regret it

[nimble crypt]

if you want on rate, wait for grave kit then

if same as crown, you can pull

[sullen forum]

Grave kit in 4 minutes

[nimble crypt]

yeah off rate pilgrim is too low

[toxic wren]

no idts

[simple dock]

fuck

[agile pilot]

what the hell, her kit looks rather simple compared to some other gals

[fallen quartz]

Just you wait, Grave kits will make Alice and Asuka even more meta

[nimble crypt]

they give free liter/naga/alice on 100 pull because dev encourage player to use them

but they are not pilgrim

[fallen quartz]

her kits are basically: let her auto, and don't let decoy die

[simple dock]

wait, the wut?

[nimble crypt]

they just gatekeep pilgrem

[fallen quartz]

RL hit rate is the best

[sullen forum]

Alice will never be able to escape sbs

[nimble crypt]

after 100 pulls, you can choose beetween liter, naga, and alice

[fallen quartz]

so Cindy is safe to auto.

[brave socket]

Btw if she remakes decoy on burst she will be like immortal if targeted by boss highest atk mechanics right

[simple dock]

what banner?

[brave socket]

Since she'll get a lot of HP buffs

[agile pilot]

do the decoys add to her own hp to calculate atk?

[sullen forum]

Next patch

[brave socket]

Doubt

[simple dock]

cindy banner?
or standard?

also i really need liter too
maybe naga too, but she's second priority

[wind matrix]

Standard

[brave socket]

The second part of the ult means it will hit each target hit by main attack 28% times the number of beauty stacks ?

[simple dock]

every 100 pulls or just this first 100 pulls?

[wind matrix]

Every 100 pull, up to 600 per player

[alpine pulsar]

funny pirate as buffer back to menu

unless they make grave powercreep her..

[simple dock]

damn, 600?

judging on how many standard tickets i have rn (200), the maximum i can do to get free liter/naga/alice on every 100 pulls is 800

[molten oak]

Elemental niche unit

[modest nest]

what's the cooking

I'm cooking rate for exchange, haven't touched cindy yet

[wind matrix]

Grave is up

[alpine pulsar]

better than 2b already cause rl

[wind matrix]

Time to move to other thread

[modest nest]

Gave up

[brave trout]

no way she's mid, right?

right, guys?

[dusty tundra]

Dude, I compair her number to 2B

She’s worse in all factors

[icy tree]

Meh, I'd still roll for Cinderella

[brave trout]

time to give her the red hood treatment

[dusty tundra]

Increase self max hp less, atk less, deal less dmg on burst skill

And if 2B is dead, you know Cindy also dead

2B skill

2B has penament 77% max hp increase with 6% convert to attack

[brave trout]

what if her burst deals that 682% 10 times

(hard coping)

[dusty tundra]

Burst skill: Deal 3100%

It makes Cindy’s number like a joke

[brave trout]

but if it's 682% 10 times then it's 6820% total, no?

[slate apex]

based on the kit it should be

682.96% x 10 = 6829.6%

• 28.9% x 12 = 346.8% additional x 10 (hits) = 3468%
  = 10.297,6% total

[sacred grove]

nani?

[frigid pumice]

mr Gatrix

[modest nest]

the additional dmg will be benefited by full burst bonus

not the initial dmg sadly

[brave trout]

these numbers should be broken if it's true, right?

[dusty tundra]

Yeah, the dmg is on full burst

[sacred grove]

depends on her self buff I guess

[dusty tundra]

But self increase is shit

[brave trout]

yeah, she should've at least be equal or better than 2B

[elder pier]

is that 1.3325x atk?
or 2.3325x?

[dusty tundra]

Gatrix, it’s 2.71%, not 27.1%

[slate apex]

well... math it out i guess. her damage scales with HP and the conversion is way less than 2B

[brave trout]

but I guess the downside to that is a mega nuke

[sand mesa]

She's a defender dps so I never had high expectations to begin with

[dusty tundra]

2B is the standard you compair

[vale forge]

the wording seems support that

i read it as it will target 1 enemy but hit it 10 times to the same target

or it will hit 10 enemies, 1 by 1. less enemy means the same enemy will get hit more than once

[elder pier]

crow is also b3 defender

[slate apex]

as Lorax already said:

2B has perma 77% HP increase and converts 6.16% HP to ATK

now with cindy...
Cinderella has up to 19.2% HP increase with Decoy ALIVE CONDITIONS and converts 2.71% HP to ATK

aint lookin too good for cindy

[nimble crypt]

let's riot

[vale forge]

Shift Up: again?

[sacred grove]

the slogan this time is 19.2% hp increase

[nimble crypt]

but they put SR early

[acoustic field]

No thats not the problem

[brave trout]

let's tell SU cindy doesn't feel the same as the demo with a wink or two

[acoustic field]

The problem is 2.71%

[dusty tundra]

2.71% hp

[dull osprey]

Time to maincord again

[sacred grove]

rh: 27.8% atk meme
cindy: 2.71%
the number looks similar (with dot place difference)

[dusty tundra]

The max hp increase can mitigate with using Rouge

But the conversion made it shit

[slate apex]

19.2% increase; 2.71% conversion

TWO POINT SEVENTYONE

[sacred grove]

shit where is that rh coffin dance memes
gotta update the pic and numbers

[dull osprey]

Anyone can do the coffin dance meme but with 2B and Cindy instead?

[brave trout]

let's just change that decoy condition to 1s and make it 20 stacks

[slate apex]

classic

[dusty tundra]

She’ll live in coffin again boy

🗣️

[molten oak]

Go cook the coffin meme guys

[sacred grove]

coffin coffin

[dull osprey]

Let's riot for 20% buff instead

[torn raven]

Miderella a thing now?

[dull osprey]

Let's go

[modest nest]

2.33x

[elder pier]

ye

[modest nest]

for Defender, ATK / HP = 41.25

so 2.71% of 41.25 is?

[torn raven]

Why shift up release mid every anniversary

[dusty tundra]

Fucking 29.7% attacker’s atk

[modest nest]

then you multiply 41.25 with (19.2%) more from Beautiful stack

[brave trout]

crown needs you to take that back

[toxic wren]

How it works is

(((Base ATK)×(1+ATK buff))+(ATK buff from HP conversion))

ATK buff from HP conversion = HP conversion % × (HP value×(1+hp buffs)

It's 120%+ atk buff

[slate apex]

numbers

[sacred grove]

huh?

[slate apex]

eww

[toxic wren]

Lorax it doesn't work that way, it's flat add

[torn raven]

Okay why shift up release mid anniversary but one

[leaden frigate]

Let them fight

With math

[brave trout]

war of the nerds

[sacred grove]

and let you fight with rim for curse?

[dusty tundra]

Fucking 35.4%

[modest nest]

what da hell?

[toxic wren]

Dude wait, let me show

[modest nest]

41.25 is 4125% lol

[slate apex]

let snake show you da wey

[acoustic field]

2.71% NEVER FORGET

[modest nest]

also 19.2% here is (1+19.2%)

[dusty tundra]

Times 2.71%

[leaden frigate]

My curse is already thwarted by the high chance of SU separating the rerun banners like Summer

[slate apex]

https://tenor.com/view/customer-service-do-you-know-the-way-du-yu-kno-de-wey-gif-13342854

[torn raven]

So does 2B out damage her then?

[dull osprey]

I'm ready for maincord drama

[sacred grove]

https://tenor.com/view/mihoyo-da-wei-approves-da-wei-da-wei-approves-gif-2084796526867093710

[sand mesa]

So Cindy is ass potentially

[gloomy quartz]

Where outrage

[modest nest]

eh where the hell I put 133%

[gloomy quartz]

not even aatrix excel sheet can save her

[modest nest]

[elder pier]

nah that should be right

i checked too

[acoustic field]

Correct

[elder pier]

using the nikkepedia stats

[sand mesa]

Fumbling 2 full year anni units in a row is crazy

[acoustic field]

Time to quit lol

[modest nest]

ah here

[sand mesa]

3rd times the charm

[modest nest]

I put wrong stuff

anyway

[slate apex]

Grave is the 2nd year Pilgrim

[sand mesa]

3rd year anni pilgrim will be good on release and need no buffs

[modest nest]

111% on base, 133% ATK buff on max

[sand mesa]

Unironically real

[acoustic field]

Crown is stronger than Grave btw

[toxic wren]

Yeah

[sand mesa]

Cinderella event but Grave in the spotlight

[acoustic field]

I REGRET NOT GETTING CROWN COPIES

WHERE ARE MY CROWN COPIES

[modest nest]

2B is around 340% I think

[toxic wren]

Correct

[acoustic field]

IF THE QUALITY OF PILGRIMS DEGRADES ID RATHER GET CROWN CORE 7

FUCK YOU ALLLLLL

[civic lance]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1038708366630977566/1047768821747941376/20221201_022935.gif

[sacred grove]

molds and daily free pull

[topaz rampart]

I thought you saves gems for Nikke 2

[nimble crypt]

you guys get crown copies?

[acoustic field]

Ticket each one of them 1 copy and dip

Im pulling rumani

This is too wack

Lmao

[pliant plover]

way to many, she would be core 9 already lol

[nimble crypt]

then they buff her

[simple dock]

i'm back, she's good right ?

[dusty tundra]

2B’s buff

[plucky rampart]

Doomposting it as worse 2b

Kek

[fallen quartz]

Kick Scarlet out of team to kill Crystal Chamber faster, yes
She have both stonk AoE dmg and single-target dmg

[dusty tundra]

Cindy’s buff

[brave trout]

The age of mid anniversary is over!
No more 2.71%!
Follow me and you shall never see underperformed Pilgrims again!
RISE UUUUUUUUUUUUUPPP!

[molten oak]

1% banner

For ele niche

Classic SU

[dusty tundra]

10% or riot

[leaden frigate]

gets his ass kicked and banished

[molten oak]

[simple dock]

Cindy is forever bricked with SR's 400 lv cap

[brave trout]

I don't think anyone would want to be Prime in this case
they want Cinderella to cook

[leaden frigate]

SU

bans your account

[brave trout]

that

well

fair enough

[topaz rampart]

quick question, on what % conversion is acceptable for Cindy to be considered "good"

because compared to RH back then using, RH still has it's use as super B1

[sturdy epoch]

isnt Cindy base weapon higher than 2B?

[dusty tundra]

10%

[modest nest]

comparing basic attack damage per sec of 2B from base to max stack vs Cindy from base to max stack burst

[acoustic field]

6.x%-7.x% for pilgrim lebel

[modest nest]

assuming 3 hits per sec

[dusty tundra]

2B is 6.16%

[ivory heath]

@modest nest we using volume?

[acoustic field]

Which is the point

[simple dock]

RL with 24 base ammo is weird af

[elder pier]

thats not counting cindy s1 dmg per hit is it?

[modest nest]

oh true

[elder pier]

its like 136%

each hit

[acoustic field]

ShiftUp revenue will tank soon

I will release low ratings day 1

Prydwen

[dull osprey]

GJ

[molten oak]

XD

[ivory heath]

They gonna do a second week buff again ain’t they

[sand mesa]

So get for collection otherwise skip

Cool

[brave socket]

Feels good 940 tickets before ani rewards

[sand mesa]

If there's enough outrage maybe

[ivory heath]

Grave is the broken unit this time

[sacred grove]

https://tenor.com/view/always-has-been-among-us-astronaut-space-betrayal-gif-23836476

[modest nest]

lol some gay ass damage

[molten oak]

wdym gay ass damage

[placid bay]

but Solo Raid already done on second week

[ivory heath]

Union mate saved 300 rocks for Cinderella

She will end up being shit

[molten oak]

Kek

[sand mesa]

Being worse than 2b in 2024 as the ANNI unit is insane

[molten oak]

Classic shift up

[sand mesa]

Shift up just throws shit at a wall until it sticks when it comes to kits I swear

[sullen forum]

We have grave

The real anni unit

[ivory heath]

Like the only variable that isn’t sure how much it’ll affect her damage is the s1 extra dmg on final attack

This might be the saving grace

[sullen forum]

I knew something was wrong, anni came early

Grave is the anni timing

[acoustic field]

For cindy to work

Minimum

[molten oak]

7 days till grave

[acoustic field]

U have

Exia

And

SAnis

Dont bother using rouge

[brave socket]

good , Didnt even use texia yet

[dull osprey]

So basically a solo raid unit bait like Ssakura?

[sand mesa]

I'm convinced every good unit shift up has made has been good on accident

[ivory heath]

Ein accident was quite big tbh

[modest nest]

comparing Cindy attack to Modernia

[molten oak]

With 1% rate banner

[modest nest]

assuming core hit + FB

[ivory heath]

You count the s1 extra dmg right?

[modest nest]

yep

non core hit that one

[ivory heath]

Total shit lol

[modest nest]

same with Modernia

[acoustic field]

And Cindy scales with OL worse

[modest nest]

that's true

she's a defender

[acoustic field]

As I said guys

[modest nest]

stop pushing DPS on her

[acoustic field]

Bith of them are shit

[modest nest]

[acoustic field]

Trust my mental math

[sand mesa]

At least Grave exists to make SU some money this anni

[acoustic field]

I legit got perfect score in math final exam

[sand mesa]

I knew she was going to be ass as soon as they revealed a Dps defender

Worse combination than aids and hpv

[ivory heath]

Cindy is basically a budget unit for people lacking true dps

You just need rouge mast and some ele dmg and that’s it

[sand mesa]

Imma get a copy anyways but I'm not wasting mileage on her ass lol

[gloomy quartz]

Su looked at scarbs and red hood and just said “never again”

[fallen quartz]

drop the G and we will have more fun

[ivory heath]

Yeah the idea of mlbing her died fast

[modest nest]

87% of Mod on core enemies
104% of Mod on non core

[ivory heath]

SU probably expects more money from the SBS costume than cind pull

[modest nest]

that's my take

[gloomy quartz]

True. Was gonna mlb her

[sand mesa]

Surely the nikke community malds hard again and gets her buffed right

[modest nest]

basic attack

[lost zinc]

Wait for JP to rage

[molten oak]

No core mod is kek

[ivory heath]

Well if it’s just basic attack it’s not that bad if she can keep up with mod

[simple dock]

she truly lives up to her origin

an Elysion unit

[ivory heath]

Since her burst deal 12k% dmg ?

[sand mesa]

Just as bland as she was in Red ash is crazy

[ivory heath]

The burst will compensate

[sullen forum]

This includes s1 additional damage right and does it also includes burst too

[brave trout]

isn't she missilis?

[modest nest]

yes

[simple dock]

Joint effort of the big 3, but Elysion is the main creator

[brave trout]

missilis and elysion must've been pretty close to have her manufactured at a missilis factory

[ivory heath]

This we assume on neutral element right?

[molten oak]

Mod 1:1 skip

[modest nest]

neutral

[molten oak]

[ivory heath]

No rouge/mast added damage?

[modest nest]

she's the best B3 non burst for C.C

which I used Scarlet

[sand mesa]

I fail to see in what rose tinted world Cinderella isn't a must pull...

[ivory heath]

If that’s the numbers without rouge mast calculation

Then she isn’t bad at all

[modest nest]

then be success

[ivory heath]

Honestly

[modest nest]

to be fair

I won't run her with Mast

[sullen forum]

She is a pilgrim

Just spark and pass

[modest nest]

you have way more better B2 to do

[brave trout]

someone didn't want another 2B-like unit to overthrown 2B

[frigid pumice]

run Rouge + blanc more multiplier

[sullen forum]

Better than missing out just in case

[modest nest]

Blanc gives 40% more dmg

[frigid pumice]

too much hp on a mini conversion dosnt help lol

[topaz rampart]

yeah, blanc buffs the other b3 too

[sand mesa]

Thankfully muscle mommy Grave saves this anniversary

[ivory heath]

Well true you can pair her with blanc

Actually my original team concept might work the best here

Rouge blanc sanis cind privaty

[acoustic field]

Read above. Cindy is unusable without Liter or ExiaT.

[sullen forum]

Why

[brave socket]

good , had no chance to use exia yet

[potent sapphire]

game won't let me use her without Liter or ExiaT? D:

[leaden frigate]

No watch me use her with XRupee

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/968098119717904433/1153643006826663956/ezgif-4-dd88652dc7.gif

[topaz rampart]

Cindy-Rouge-Scar-Blanc-Noir

[sand mesa]

Shit up cooking poison worse than Drow poison with her kit

[sullen forum]

Mast over blanc and 2b over scar. We cope hard here

[acoustic field]

She scales better on ATK than HP. Rouge Blanc is a shit combo and has been proven shit. Liter's big 5s ATK helps bring out Cindy's main damage window (Burst Skill). ExiaTr's is more balanced and gives CASTER ATK buff. SAnis gives also CASTER ATK buff. Technically Mast still works for Cindy because her kit is just better than Rouge. Mast also gives caster ATK buff (actually DEF down) and MAX HP with shit conversion but it still ends up giving plenty of ATK.

+50% from S1

That's 75% CRIT DMG.

For her burst skill.

[rugged lake]

Is cindy bad?

[acoustic field]

Supports also have the highest HP.

[sullen forum]

What if the real strat is volume mast

[acoustic field]

Nah.

[sullen forum]

And crit fish

[modest nest]

1% hp increases roughly gives her 1.12% ATK
1% ATK gives her 1% ATK

that's the scaling

[acoustic field]

So best Cindy substat is ELE CritRate Ammo and maybe some ATK.

[sullen forum]

Why rate

Just go CRIT damage and fish

[stone urchin]

Cindy has 100% charge speed

She is zooming

[sullen forum]

Still slower than spamshots

[modest nest]

around 3 hits per sec I believe

you can't spam her btw

[rigid cosmos]

is 100% not just instant?

[modest nest]

she's locked in position like SBS

[stone urchin]

100 charge is like alice

Or RH

She is RL

[sand mesa]

She's meh

[rigid cosmos]

i think RH b3 is the closest comparison

[modest nest]

?

[rigid cosmos]

from what we saw in the demo

[stone urchin]

So the burst gauge is insane

[modest nest]

supporter

highest HP

[sand mesa]

It's true

John Supporter told me so

[rigid cosmos]

burst gen is probably gonna go nuts at least. might actually be worth to invest in charge damage as well

[stone urchin]

Elemwnt, more ammo, charge dmg

[broken berry]

I'm waiting to see how some of the other servers take her, I recall rh got buffed shortly after launch

[stone urchin]

She will use her ammo real quick

[signal hollow]

With her changed auto-attack pattern? Her Burst Gen might change tho

[sand mesa]

RH backlash seemed far more insane at the time

I haven't really seen that level of backlash with Cinderella yet

[stone urchin]

RH was post launch

[rigid cosmos]

if she's mid, community riots and she gets buffed. still probably gonna be good for bossing at least

[dark flame]

Will have to see once people get to actually test her

[rigid cosmos]

maybe pvp depending on how burst gen works

[signal hollow]

We have to see after the update is liv

[stone urchin]

I think she is better 2b

[acoustic field]

U guys are funny. She is literally SW but electric but weaker burst and better constant.

[sand mesa]

RH backlash was happening as soon as the kit got revealed

[brave socket]

It's easy. There was a RH video on jp stream showing her way stronger than calcs showed , so she released "nerfed" vs what they showed before

[ivory heath]

Cuz we haven’t seen real tests

[brave socket]

this is why they put a "kit is not final" in the videos

[signal hollow]

This

[ivory heath]

Multiple occasions of “shit” before released “actually broken” post release

[brave socket]

and it's why there's no changes going to happen this time at least I think

[acoustic field]

Never zero

You guys are listening to the wrong people

In prydwen, we never say someone is shit then become broken

[signal hollow]

Did JP do a showcase live?

[acoustic field]

Actually never

[stone urchin]

Yea

[signal hollow]

Suuuuuure

[stone urchin]

But zi dont think anyone look at the number

[signal hollow]

Were the numbers turned off?

[stone urchin]

I dont remember

As I said

[dark flame]

Gonna look

[stone urchin]

Noone look at the number

Trust me

[brave socket]

it's not going to be so easy to calculate this time. RH fault was they increased her attack speed but cut her damage . I think cinder works mostly the same , so you cant prove anything if you dont know what gear they were using lol

[topaz rampart]

Weird skill kit , HP>ATK not much like 2B
HP up too

decoy don't have taunt

[brave socket]

and besides "kit is not final" message was sprayed over en video

[topaz rampart]

🤔

[brave socket]

and probably they mentioned that in JP too

[sand mesa]

Idk but that shitty as team they used did 200 million

[dark flame]

https://www.youtube.com/live/SZjw-3NgU00

At 2hr 20 min

[stone urchin]

In trailer she has a shield

How come the game doesnt have one

[brave socket]

Kit

is

not

final

[sullen forum]

Maybe thats how decoys would be implemented

[sand mesa]

I get that the kit isn't final but why bother showcasing gameplay at that point

[sullen forum]

They would show as Shields

[brave socket]

so you get the feel of how she's going to be

but dont assume that's her final form

[sand mesa]

But the kit isn't final

[brave socket]

The numbers can change

[sand mesa]

So it doesn't matter if they come out and have changed mechanics

Like the shield

[dark flame]

Yea "may differ from actual game"

[broken berry]

Tbf, afaik, there have only been 2 instances where su buffed skills, rh and summer neon

[sand mesa]

They said the same thing for Red Hood and people did NOT care

[brave socket]

gonna be honest , they do this so people like most people here in this chat dont mald about numbers and normal people get some gameplay

BAM

[sand mesa]

People aren't going to start caring now

[potent sapphire]

the caps lock NOT

[brave socket]

no , they didnt

also in rh there was a clear difference

[stone urchin]

It is skin showcase

[brave socket]

faster attack speed and halved damage

[stone urchin]

Noone care about the damage

Noone look for it

[sand mesa]

They did say kit subject to change for red hood

People just ignored it because she was ass compared to what they showed

[dark flame]

I mean everything is always subject to change, but doesn't stop people from being disappointed

[topaz rampart]

imo her kit's numerical value need to raise a bit

[uneven cargo]

SU sucks at testing, they released kit to let people see numbers. Community will fix the numbers for the SU. They don't have to put any effort and just cash out on community effort. #MaximizingProfit

[brave socket]

I am pretty 99% sure the amount of people that wont pull without a buff announced , if she needs one , is ridiculously low

[frigid pumice]

cinderella actually sleeping in the coffin this time

[copper ice]

My first anniversary, su really dont like me pulling uhhh?

[brave socket]

??

lmao

[copper ice]

I want rh cores dammit

[sand mesa]

I don't think Cinderella will be that bad but I also didn't expect her to be great either

[lost zinc]

Midrella

[brave socket]

😴

[ivory heath]

Soline

[brazen violet]

So cindy mid?

[stone urchin]

Good

Stop listen to doomposter

[sand mesa]

Potentially

[wind matrix]

Welp, after compared to how versatile grave is...

Yeah

Guess defender is doomed to fail for raid

[brave socket]

imagine not having enough golden tickets to get both , cant be me

[broken berry]

I don't think I was around for that one, I started near the end of the chainsaw man collab

[ivory heath]

I think soline was buffed during modernia solo raid but I might be wrong

[wind matrix]

Yes

Same with guillo too

[modest nest]

ATK > Charge Damage

[acoustic field]

Also why rouge sucks

She has no dmg

Period

[ivory heath]

She deals decent dmg in electric weak stuff

[frigid pumice]

is just this bro

and the hp% buffs

[broken berry]

I agree with someone else who said it, but I think her numbers need to go up.
For someone who was giving the entire goddess squad the hands, she doesn't seem strong

[rigid cosmos]

just double all the numbers and call it a day. then everyone's happy because we get another meta dps

[full garnet]

Basically a Red Hood situation lol

[wind matrix]

Yep

[uneven cargo]

Mid Hood 2.0

[stoic storm]

People expecting Attacker damage from a defender.

B3 & Not Attacker = trash. Even pilgrims aren't immune.

S.Anis barely scrapes by as the exception.

[acoustic field]

Doesn't seem strong? She is weak

[lost zinc]

When the “Cindy Mid” thread in maincord

[plucky rampart]

Soon

[uneven cargo]

Midrella will sounds better

[simple dock]

i'm surprise thread is not created yet

[wind matrix]

Well...sanis is supporter, supporter stats designed to be balanced between attacker and defender

[lost zinc]

Need to see JP/KR reactions

[ivory heath]

The mistake here is making a defender class dps

[stoic storm]

Maincord can't read, has to wait for her to be playable to realise

[ivory heath]

And then wondering why people are complaining that they expect a dps to actually deal damage

[acoustic field]

SU has the worst kit maker team lmao IQ provably 80

[wind matrix]

But yeah..expecting defender to act as dps is tall order

And bad design too

[chilly kernel]

I remember that as well. I think they were still crunching on her kit at that time . I remember the commentator (Famitsu guy) also said part of her kit is still under development

[full garnet]

She'll likely be buffed post launch. Don't know how much though lol

[ivory heath]

Anyway if gatrix calculations are right and she performs better than mod on non core bosses then we can just use her as a neutral element dps

In place of modernia

[uneven cargo]

They could just make her an attacker, disregard that she has shield looking weapons (it's anyway blasting some lasers around) and make her into best dps unit, everybody would be happy

[wind matrix]

If a lot riot, especially when they realized grave is a lot better than her, usable wise

[ivory heath]

Grave will soak the flak actually

[rigid cosmos]

they could just buff her hp to atk scaling to hell

[sullen forum]

goddess aint the smartest squad, they might have got outplayed by the mirror images

[ivory heath]

They won’t touch Cinderella and will say “you have another pilgrim don’t complain “

[plucky rampart]

The design of the skill are great
Except I really want max beauty stacks to do something
Just low numbers as usual

[sand mesa]

Yeah there was 0 reason to make her a defender outside of lore if they wanted the dps route

[sullen forum]

most of the time math is correct

[wind matrix]

Dis

[sullen forum]

but maybe her in game power will be different