#[Rouge] New Unit Megathread
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for PVP
Cdr is not that needed in pvp
It's just who nukes faster competition. Cdr doesn't do much there
If you reach 30 shots in pvp
- Fucking how
- Why
Cdr, 30 shots, 5 bursts, ... Yeah sure if you can do all that before scarlet nukes you
Oh, Rouge's rifle has good sound effects.
Blanc: "Sister?"
Rogue: "Eh?"
I mean... I dont think you need to say nowadays
Rogue allow commander to ditch Noir as Rogue also trigger Blanc's buffs
These days NTR is everywhere
First Tia gets cuckolded by a nudist.
Now Noir gets cuckolded by a blackjack dealer.
What does noir herself do?
Also now i can run mod with bunnies and not feel bad about it
Decent dmg, trigger Blanc's cooldown
but with Rogue also CDR almost entire team
Blanc can safely enter 20s cycle burst
To reduce balance cooldown, give some reload buff
Doubt ill reset my noir because i use her in pvp
gib ammo
Also some atk and hit rate buff
she has second life in SG team or MG team
for mg, noir provides ammo and burst gen
shotgun just shotgun

So lesser DKW and 2B's best friend? 
As a mast stan i have to pretend she isnt real
What do we call bunnies now?
Just blanc?
NTR-hentai-heroine
Not even meta for tower?
Infinitely better than fucking volume yeah
^
Yes my tetra tower is stuck below 300
but you do fine without Rogue in Tetra tower
you call 20s b1 cdr non meta? 
she's Meta
She isnt stronger than liter so no
not Facebook
:)
77
So shes strongest b1 tetra
Man i just finished upgrading all of volumes equipment
OLs on Volume? 
You OLd volume?
Yeah
Wack
Madman
Well she is getting treasure later anyway
In Nikke 2, sure
Surely
Sadly her usage rate is way too high
If her crit buffs become atk ill use her
CDR so powerful that the rest of the kit doesn't matter
but rouge won’t replace volume in tetra tower for a good while since mine is already c7 

Volume's treasure
Just c7 Rouge 

Oh true
So adding actual skills to her kit
But i dont want a volume treasure because i like leaving her at 1/1/1
I have her at 1/4/7 
T9Ms forever tho 
Can at least reset skills on occasion
No take backsies on OL gear
Considering how Rouge and D: Wife provide equal amounts of CDR
and you don't burst with D: Wife on the Exia team
Rouge is a good substitute
she also benefits from the Electric buffs on S. Anis and Exia, where D: Wife does not.
Rouge also gives a slight damage buff even if its small
Admittedly, neither Rouge or D: Wife are going to have much in the way of personal DPS, but every bit helps.
But in solo raid i think you still use dwife on exia team
Rouge would probably give more overall damage for 777
Than you would with dwife/liter
Without bursting, Rouge gives a slightly higher buff than D: Wife, and shares Electric Type for S. Anis and Exia
D: Wife also wants to buff Pierce Snipers, and neither Exia or Ein have Pierce
Well, correction--one of the luxuries of the Crown+Exia team is that you have 3 DPS---Exia, Ein, and S.Anis, and two of them buff the others
That slight damage increase on exia would probably be less than the damage increase of a third dps on 777 (probably)
Rouge only gives persistent buffs to the DPS on either side of her
Also, as an aside, if you use Rouge, you have the option of substituting Crown in the Exia team for Blanc
which gives you more team flexibility
Idk though you may be right but in coop rouge is 100% better
Same with union but i care so little about union
With how easy it already is
i think b2 support will be element meta in future
but crown exist, so standard of b2 is too high
rouge blanc over b1 srosanna for neutral fire team? (Asuka/rei/mod)
since this team ditch noir, so you have to OL ammo 2-3 lines on these 3
base asuka is 20, scarlet level but better reload
mg needs a lot of ammo because long reload
anniversary unit HP dps 
still has a place in (non elec-weakness) SG comp
She is a supporter, so the buff doesn't really make big impact on her
Not necessarily. Rouge’s damage will likely still be low, but S. Anis gives Reload Speed in addition to damage to Electric units, so in combination with Crown and the Resilience Cube, Rouge will have 100% reload speed during Full Bursts
Which should make her CDR a bit more consistent in the Exia-Crown Electric team without needing any Max Ammo OL lines
dayum that's right , rouge opens blanc to sanis lol , poor noir
In isolation, assuming both Nikke can burst, D: Wife will almost always be better than Rouge
But in the context of the Exia-Crown-S. Anis team. Rouge and D: Wife are just there to provide CDR, and Rouge provides slightly better utility + benefits from the Electric buffs while D: Killer Wife would prefer to be on another team
I'm calling it now Cindy will scale off her hp so we will get rouge blanc cindy 2b DPS comp
my guess is Cindy will scale off her def 
is Rouge PVP meta?
she needs to launch 30 full charge shots nvm
Rouge, Mast, 2B, Guillotine, flex
Possible?
I wish they'd rerun Nier, I want A2's booty, didn't managed to get her
So with rouge we can finally bench doro
Can't use D in Tetra Tower 

Outside of fire raids, I think it's Volume getting benched
vs 
Not much reason to not use Doro/Priv with Crown outside of fire raids since SBS is the main DPS
Well in neutral raids for Alice and SBS where doro priv is part of their team yeah
Volume out
I call the next raid land eater

Yup was definitely referring to tower there
@marsh cedar did you get doro after saying that
as person who only check meta once in full moon the out of nowhere "putting S Rossana in grave" at pins make me chuckle
Yup
this game really meta dependant so life is too cruel
She doesn't even budge Summer Rosanna.
Snake always gives false verdicts.
the same person telling srossana is future
Not really
Rouge: B1
sRosanna: B2
what are you talking
Yeah, got corrected few comments later
Pins.
i aint readin all that
Also Tove Blanc SG SG Rouge cooking possible.
ah yeah SG team is still wasting 1-2 sec CD per FB
Remove bsoda
bsoda is the cornerstone of SG team dps though
Cinderella will surely chsnge that

Nah, nowadays SAnis + Privm
sAnis supports Ein
Is 2B climbing out of her grave again? 
New teams:
- Liter SRos Asuka Rei Mod
- Rouge Crown Alice SBS Privaty
- D:Wife Mari RH Maxwell XLud
- Dorothy Tia SAnis Ein Naga
- Tove Blanc SG SG Noir
This comp perfect for next boss.
Iron weak.
Every single comp has Iron.
Skill issue.
Uhuh.
water?
This should be pinned





Thank you
water shotgun 
nice spam 
he's rogue one now
Which boss? 
My bet's on Land Eater next and October SR feature unit being better Guillotine to piggyback on Rogue 
Also, S Anis Ein vs Iron-weak boss, really? 
And imagine not using S Helm vs Iron-weak 
I forgot guillo exists
Yeah but Rouge needs 1 min to ramp up
All that matters is the CDR 
imagine skipping cdr
Good! Makes me less frustrated for having to mileage Mari after two off rates in 80ish pulls and not having any fckin pulls
Rouge is far better than Volume as B1, imo
Rouge alone can work as a Pseudo healer, and no healer comp is much easier with her
Being better than volume is not that impressing or hard to achieve anyways 
Literally a filler banner
Xdd no
I should thank them for not making her bad when she has such a cool looking. I'll put her on my wishlist and save normal tickets till then
And pray to get her
This too
Yeah still haven't gotten regular lud lol
I'll try to use the gems and tickets they'll give on event to pull on her banner, if not whatever
Rogue is a raid meta(team 3/4/5) imo 
CDR, Pseudo heal, ATK damage 6.65% up, 15% ATK buff(around 12% in reality) can't be bad
pseudo heal? its not even healing
max hp up is a psuedo heal
Dunno where is this both you're referring to
ok let's assume your HP is now 100
and you get 20% max hp up buff
then you take 10 damages during the effect
now after the effect expires, what is your hp?
english translation has them all stated as without restoring hp
And EN TL is known to be retarded
90, because rouge hp buff doesnt restore hp
its pretty clear this time, if you're disputing that, then we can only wait and see
until the unit comes out
And being able to remove noir for an actual good dps
iirc, it should be 91.6 100
I may be wrong though 
that sort of max hp buff is in-line with noise s2, but rouge max hp buff according to the kit is more like how mast max hp buff works
no changes to your current hp, literally the only thing change is the max hp
Yeah it should act like masts burst
this isn't going anywhere
it all depends on if the EN TL is wrong or not
Give you the HP but not heal it
in jp text, the line 2 buff description is clearly different from line 1 and 3
So are you saying the devs got it wrong in both their native language and the most popular translation
But somehow the EN translation known for being loaded with fuck ups is somehow right?
buddy, I dunno kr or jpn, the only thing I can see is the english kit pinned here
I work with what I see
yeah let's wait and we will see
Anyway, it probably doesn't matter at all Because Rouge is likely to be paired with Blanc
that's what exactly ppl said when they saw dkw kit back then 
🪓
I mean rouge is good really good
New people and raid malders need her
But idk I prefer to save my gems for a good unit dps
And yeah even if I was top 62 last raid I consider myself a casual player

But tbh I would rather use gems and tickets here than to go another 300 pulls on another pilgrim banner without a single copy

Dps - rogue - dps - blanc - dps?
I just realized Rouge burst (when in double sword coin status) kills Noir's S1 
dorothy usually with sanis
so we got b1 cdr for each element now?
Except water
Water is like wet fart for them0
isn't dororo water
Should i pull Rouge if i have Volume and all others CDR? With anni close, and my resource drained by collab, this making a dilemma.
Nope
Probably sword coins supposed to be Max HP and Dmg buffs and shield coins is Max HP with heal and Dmg reduction buffs
So she is basically b1 cdr heal with slight buffs
Sounds like easy pull
Yeah Doro is water
EN TL has historically just copy-pasted information then edited it, resulting in errors 
Like with Bay's kit 
someone ask this person to ss their solo raid score 
ah yes the reddit, classic
Depends how much you care about raids
Rouge is must pull raids
Not must pull others
i just have one question - does she make Tetra Tower easier compared to Volume? Does she permanently bench Volume in that mode and else where?
That time Sin could apparently keep the entire field perma stunned.
Only EN 
The answer is yes
But as someone else mentioned, if you have c7 volume (and/or invested volume) it might be better to keep using her since she will simply give more cp
oic, so more of a newb must have unit. i'm relatively new and haven't put anything into volume (spare bodies, skillpoints or gear investment) so i suppose rouge's more important in my situation then
Draining you pre-anni
Surely the banner right before will be another Quiry 
I can get away with 0.x% in raid without DKW, I can get away without Rouge 
I'd argue for new players who already have Volume, Rouge would actually be a trap 
You are going into an anniversary and Christmas and new year all together
dont pull for just raid shiet

If someone has mileage ready for anni already, then I could see it
but only one CDR unit is needed for non-raid content, and neither Rouge nor Volume are particularly strong outside of their cdr
But what if hey give Rouge a bunny suit mission pass 
there's time for another 2 more banners before anni after Rouge's ends iinm. rouge's ends on the 3rd of october.
from 3rd to 17th - one 2 week banner
from 17th to 31st - one 2 week banner.
31st - speculated date of anniversary.
Yeah, I know
3rd to 17th will be raid meta
so 17th is the only one to hope for skip 
thank you for making my brain clear
Cindy/ then xLud+ new limited
Rouge really is only worth the immediate pull if:
- You are highly motivated to improve score in raids.
- You don't own Volume (or any other CDR unit) yet
- You own Blanc

Veterans should be able to budget their own gacha resources by now based on their spending practices 
All in all, if you don't have liter or DWife, rouge can fit it in over volume, Doro, or dolla
Cuz she's... Better than them
However she is anti synergy with 2 famous campaign units
Alice and A2
Better than Doro in single team content I'm not keen on agreeing with
The fact that I can use S.Anis on Tetra tower now without her Ammo being fucked by noir is already a win win
Simply just faster cdr dude
Rouge Blanc Alice S.Anis X.lud
Yes, for a complete loss of damage and mob clear capability
Yeah but Alice WILL lose her pierce
For a bit
Also Privaty's a free unit, so Doro's CDR is perfectly fast
Alice won't lose her pierce forever since she can just shoot her health back, but it will definitely affect dps if you're fighting pierce-able boss
Also a potential advantage of Dolla is the abilit to use Exia with S Anis 
The fact that CDR is the only thing going for Rouge is why I think she's a trap for new players
A friend of mine directed me here, didn’t know I already became famous in commcord, thanks for the free advertisement 
2 weeks for christmas banner and 2 weeks for new years right?
I think I did fine in mc solo raid dunno 
Then you should state very clear on that
if this unchecked then that is needed 
For global standards, yeah misread which raid that was for, woops 

Anyway since there’s no real constructive discussion here there’s no point to give my reasons why I wrote those comments. Only thing I’d say, @trim gorge kinda disappointed at you brother, you know how shotgun pellets work
Dude
55th is good
Damn Heli cooks them back


You can run shotguns like sanis in separate teams you know
fight fight fight fight!
also, Sanis normally goes with Doro due to both are slave to Priv
Whatever, maybe I was a bit vague
Well not anymore, you see more and more priv pulled from doro
Including last solo raid
Only 2 times in history
Statistically, only 1 time in history
we have Rouge now
Will become a trend no worries
CDR + heal + around 50% of liter damage buff wise
But yeah, I think rouge is over exaggerated but I’ll let people test n confirm for themselves
I did a small analysis myself from Enikk
and you're right about one thing, Doro is in trouble
It is Doro Vs Volume Vs Rouge
As if we need more healing than what Blanc provides 
by herself, there is no heal
You don't need to use her with blanc
Can slot as a healer with someone like Mari
Don't need to, but it's most likely going to be most effective
Essentially, no matter how good volume is
DWife and liter are always better
The fight is bw Doro Vs Rouge Vs volume
yeaaa, I'm just gonna wait for that
Imagine believing EN TLs which messed up even the first banner of the game 
Remember when Helm had an AoE burst? 
Wait... I just realized something....
Does that mean we are now going to get nikkes that their skills revolve around their HP like 2B 
Cindy kit in a nutshell 
context wise, it's just odd that only the shield coin form alone has that hp heal buff
I saw that and I still can’t feel like having rouge with blanc. Rouge has no real benefits to dps units, her atk damage is low and only applies to 2, and her atk buff is self atk. People bash noir but forget about ammo refund etc which is heavy when running MG for example etc
I think October first banner unit is going to synergize with Rouge
- Doro: only fits in crown or Tiga
- Vol: can't fit in crown or blanc-noir
- Rouge: only fits in crown (if electric weak) or with blanc
3 DPS always just simply better than 2dps bro
Rouge only truly benefits electric teams with exia since she’s electric herself and until now people used Dkw solely because there was nothing better
And 2b/guillotine
I mean it is a shield coin
Actually make sense
Yup , Same.
We will soon see a HP team cope, mark my words 
Liter blanc Rei Noir Mod
Vs
Rouge Blanc Rei B3 Mod
Second team is on same level, if not better, especially since it can heal like it's loved one is on ventilator
Until we finally get a wind MG DPS when Noir will still be in there 
And heck, you could've fit 2b there instead of Mari team and got more damage output overall
I would really want to test that in real action. You sack liter 66% atk and noir ammo refund for modernia for second b3 dps. Will the trade-off really work? We will see
The trade off works if the synergy is high enough
eh, the triple hp boost without restoring hp looks/flows better to me since its simpler
but lets see
What I'm more interested in is how vital CS/Max Ammo rolls are going to be on her
You forget that s.rosan Maxwell Rei mod was also highly effective in top brass
Check Enikk
Srosan has lower buff even when compared to blanc 
And with rouge, you get one extra burst as well
EN translators mindset when they copy paste same shit 3 time

But why wouldn't they just say 30.25% MAX HP increase?
There's literally no difference in the trigger
The idea has always been that 3 DPS > 2 DPS
Only true exception is Tia + Naga when core uptime is high
I dunno, y u asking me lol
That solo raid was very specific in multiple ways.
For example, having Maxwell already gave a big boost because core could only be hit with pierce.
It just needs to be tested in equal grounds (union range etc)
also whatchu means sg pellets work

Well, simply slotting in xLudmilla should be enough to win the battle Vs liter probably
Rouge enjoys abit of sunshine before anniversary nikke sends her thread to oblivion 
they crit independently
He means they benefit from crit since they don't corehit
Correct. That’s why pellets benefit a lot from crit buffs
Well
They CAN core hit now XD
huh
And also core hits
inb4 anniv nikke works with hp scaling
That’s … an interesting interpretation xd
your dmg is increased by 6 x 1.5 + 4 = 13 which means 30% dmg up
now a normal RL shot, with 60% chance to crit
it's also 30% dmg increased, averagely
Each pellet counts as a separate hit. It has its own crit chance. Volume s2 provides crit dmg buff as well. Shotguns in general have low core hit rate (if there even is core)
I get the core hit part
what if condy converts allies hp to atk 
but the crit, it's literally the same in average

60% crit chance on one shot, or 10 pellets shot, they give same damage up in average duh
Same dmg up in average but with 10 pellets you have higher odds of getting those crits because each hit has its own calculation
nah
You have 60% on one shot vs 60% on 10. One can miss, the 10 each of them will have their % chance
if you throw the coin 10 times, or 1 time
chance to have head or tail
is still 50%

One also can hit
If you hit once without crit you have 100% damage. If you hit 10 shots with 3 of them critting you already have higher damage

The likelihood of a 50% result being the same halves each time
More shots just mean more consistent
And SGs have more shots so that’s why there’s more consistency in critting there
What he's saying is that there's more chance of getting the tails of you flip more times
Hence the crit is more smooth, less rng technically
doesn't matter in the long run, throughout 180s, crit chance will equal back to the same
Since the chance of critting is technically higher due to their being more shots
Another thing to have in mind. Both bunny soda and maid priv - the staple shotguns, have crit damage buffs
On their skills
You know this gatrix, why are you doing this 
it doesn't work like that Snake

you can say
throughout 10 shots, chance to have AT LEAST 1 crit is higher
SGs can get "partial" crits
but chance to crit as much as a normal shot, they are the same
Will figure out once rouge is out I guess
and back to my example, SG needs to have 6 pellets crit to match a 60% chance crit during 1 shot of RL
If all pellets crit, that's even damage to other weapons assuming those weapons also crit at equal rate. But if some pellets crit, that's more damage than a standard shot from another weapon

They are the same but you have 10 shots to 1 in a single frame
yes but if some pellets crit (but not 6/10) and the RL crit
you lose dmg
see the balance?
So the odds of having at least one of those 10 crit to the single shot from other instance is way higher
you win some, lose some, equal some, and in the long run, you are equal
That’s where you need to also calculate that crit rate in general is very low
I don't call 15% low
So your RL odds of crit are quite lower than a shotgun

15% is fucking awful
not HSR, and it's not mathematically
Actually less consistent crits is better in this game, because you have infinite amounts of retries, so less amounts of shot is technically better for crit fishing, but in reality it is only useful for someone like sw or mv
Like Monster Hunter and GBF allow for 100% crit 
if we say 15% base, it means among 20 shots, 3 of them should crit
time(raid duration) is finite though 
24h x 7 - 7h = 161h
Warframe allows for 500% crit chance (technically no ceiling) 
And again - bunny soda and maid priv have big self crit dmg buffs. So they benefit even harder from having the crit buffs volume(or Leona provides). It’s just that Leona covers what volume does so that’s why it’s detrimental to use her with them
for SG, it's around 30 pellets crit
And leonas buffs are longer
But if you want to separate shotgun teams (since sanis loses value in 15 second burst durations compared to 10 sec) - volume was the best non exia option during MC raid
And you can see in Enikk that sanis teams used that
Idk what the argument is in general
While volume might be better for s.anis, there is her partner to consider about, who is doing more damage than anis (Ein)

I just make my point about crit helping Pellets
it doesn't
it just creates an illusion of "looking better"
Vs core yea but non core I think sanis is still stronger
Liter had a higher average damage and damage floor
It was only the max that was higher in Volume's favor
Malding required 
Crit malding 
But I assume it from self experience because my sanis is higher ele dmg and cores than ein
With volume sanis Maxwell team I did more damage than with doro sanis ein
Probably also depends on people's investment levels
In the MC
I think a lot of people leave Volume at 4/4/4 (if that)
Liter can work on equal grounds if you ran ein guillo with sanis who are also greedy self dps
But if you ran with support dps n such you could actually dish out quite big numbers just with sanis alone
well, we have a Mirror Container in AI that can be used for practical testing now 
I did like 1.3b solo with sanis and I don’t even have the doll at 15 and only 11% atk (tho high ele dmg)
Ehh self attack buffs 🤮
Actually didn’t have exia in my runs in MC there
I never bothered treasuring her
Guess I’m slacking too much
But a rouge megathread turned into crit to shotgun discussion lol
I’ll just summarize it shortly and leave it like that
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10 pellets - higher crit chance overall, higher chance to deal more than base damage.
-
staple shotgun units like soda and privaty have huge crit dmg self buffs

Crit is more consistent for higher fire rates weapons (MG/SG/SMG)
higher fire rate doesn't increase crit rate 
^
because you shoot faster doesn't mean you will crit more. You will reach equilibrium easier
then we look at Snow
she can crit 6 times in a row
That assumes the equilibrium happens in less than 3 minutes 
and she can not crit anything over 100 retries
if you know MG can shoot up to 10800 shots
that's a hella big number of shots
On the rouge part:
-
She has low atk values. Trading noir (which is a decent dps anyway and provides ammo refunds as well) to another b3 that can arguably do higher dmg through bursts and trading liter/volume for practically zero offensive buffs is questionable - only through real tests it can be confirmed. This can truly be tested in tetra tower wall levels (the ones with barbells).
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Generally speaking, rouge is 100% better than counterparts in two scenarios - exia team where you use her as a Cdr unit that benefits from exia since she’s also electric. And for teams that utilize guillotine and 2b. For other teams, will have to test to confirm if 1. Is true or false

Kilo forgotten
I am curious to see what Rouge can do for HP-based nukers in PvP 
even if it's just meme
It’s just the way the shotgun hit works. It’s one hit but split into 10. So the shotgun hits are a bit different than standard hits because each pellet counts on its own. In this regard, the odds of at least one pellet critting are very high. Thus, shotguns usually deal more than the base damage with pretty much every hit. The thing that is a variable is how many pellets crit. In this case, the total damage from a single hit can vary based on the crits. So shotgun crits are not 100% crits. This is where crit buffs help both with upping the crit chance of each pellet while also buffing the crit dmg to increase the variables
Rouge + Blanc + 3 dps
Noir to SG/ MG comp
If u have about 700 ammo on Diesel then we dont need Noir
But it's better to run a more aggressive B2
Yup
a single pellet crit is worth a lot less than something like a RL crit
If that 30% pierce dmg buff was atk buff
Diesel treasure for Mod 100%
For sure
Until we have someone give pierce to MGs
His point is that you get them more
Well gatrix is right mathematically
Yes, but probability math is paper math
It's just that SG scale better with crit cuz they don't core hit
That's the only real argument
Dude, he's correct
now tell me, if the outcome is the same
Otherwise we'd be guaranteed 4 SSRs every 100 pulls 
In 3 minutes, both units hit a fuckton of shots
WE
What's that stupid name
Skibidibidibidi
Toilet


Shino boomer doesn't know genz memes
Honestly that skibidi toilet videos are not that crigne
in Asia, everything looks young
It's just too annoying

show it this master-peace
Glad that I grew up with Mr.Bean
if you have 10% crit chance and a crit doubles your dmg (100%), and you do 100 shots, each shot doing 10 dmg base (1 base for sg):
100 RL shots = 90 normal + 10 crits = 900 + 200 = 1100
100 SG shots = 900 normal pellets + 100 crit pellets = 900 + 200 = 1100
You mean " Top EDM to play League of Legend "

100 > 10, but 100/1000 = 10/100
That's only assuming the probability works out like on paper

Anyway
Mathematically yes
It doesn't though
Noir to SG make Sugar cope work better
But mathematically I should be getting 1 ssr every 25 pulls
More ammo
And I’m not getting ssr in 150


but you can also keep rerolling until you get 2 SSRs in a 10 pull
that's what restarting the fight does
The whole server's results don't matter to an individual
I just want that 2 ssr in one 10 pull in Cinderella banner

Hopefully 2 Cinderella’s too
Anyway just blew up my Reddit cover (not that I use Reddit too much anyway)
But yea the topic became a lot more lively

Now I can just bail out kthxbai
you won't say hi to your dear friend Texas?
Anyway we will have

Is that you?
Who’s that
1: Rouge Blanc
2: Tia Naga D
3: Liter
4: Dorothy/ Volume
5:SG
Not rly
Volume and Dorothy will compete for that final CDR slot
I have no idea who that is 
I will run Volume all day
unless you can put Priv there
Doro without Priv, AT MAX, can trigger her s1 TWICE

now you do the meth
how many seconds are reduced?
But SR mechanic nowadays have a " ele shield "
actually 4 ~ 5
Which make comp combine kinda more weird
Dorothy have to go with Priv
But mostly Priv is with Crown
And Alice SBS are with them
Last raid ppl used Dorothy alone in a full AR comp
Cause that comp has slow burst gen
still wonky as fk
It really depends on element
but if it works, it works
Like for water raids, Doro/Crown/SBS/Alice/Privaty means Volume would probably be knocked out
Last raid Dorothy had pierce and could benefit from naga core hit you gotta count that too
so instead of running Doro with Priv
you run Doro with Sakura
still 2 CDR

slot whore
At least Rouge wont be a 10/10/10 unit
Ah right, yeah, switched to Sakura by the end 
@trim gorge btw I assume this is what you were trying to tell me
But I hope you also understand my logic there
TLDR to have a full shotgun crit match a RL/SR crit you need all 10 pellets to crit
and I recommend you not going to Online Casino

you fuck up the probability so much

I buy crypto Dw I’m already dug in online casinos
nah

50% chance you'll profit! Either you do or you don't 
Investing and gambling are different. In investing the house always wins
wait, that's the same tho

Back on track to Rouge though, I wonder if the order in the skill kit is important
Only if you invest in heavily inflated or fluctuating products 
for example, Binance steals 1% of your coin for every transaction you make
that's very clear
e.i. Max HP inceased by 10.15% then second Max HP that heals is based on the already increased Max HP? 
but for Casino, they too steal 1% but it works in a different way

that's why I said, investing Crypto is a kind of gambling itself
but compare to real gambling
it's not
This guy knows about binance
Already feeling the crypto degen blood

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If anything, rouge might be a support for Cinderella. And Cinderella autos or skills/burst work like kilo based on max hp (a bit different formula from 2b where she converts hp to attack, here’s damage calculation based on max hp)
Just a speculation
They usually release the respective supports before the real carries anyway
Assuming you have enough pull for Cinderella 
Although DKW was released far after RH 
After Rogue, come Missilis Meta, then come Tetra Meta
There is what I said yesterday
and you get broke
Naga was released before rh tho 
Naga's good for everyone 
Tia naga were solo raid banner
True 
Then quiry filler
Then the nudist come
But you had tove then Leona then maid priv
Then clay to ein
So there’s some pattern for sure
But imo they cooked tia naga for Rh in ultra solo raid
And yeah P1 was tia naga Rh alice
So idk, maybe they are cooking something new with this rouge buffing hp
Still helped to destroy it faster, and the bigger key was the shield that prevents the laser stun
2b 2,0
I think October raid banner rather than Cindy, personally, but either possible
It's already weird we're getting a meta-level Nikke off-raid 
Hyper B1 buffing something new
Although I don't like this position-based skill nonsense

Just going to screw up burst hotkeys
inb4 Cinderella gives a different buff to each position 
Probably
If she's not RH tier, people will probably rage again 
Personally I hope Rouge isn't foreshadowing any mechanics tho
The position stuff seems annoying, and I always get nervous with the max hp buffers
Cindy will powercreep Rh but not Alice
I honestly want her to be a supporter 
Something in the middle xD
Wait... you mean she is not a supporter 
Considering the firepower she has, I'd be surprised if she's not an Attacker (though S Anis-style Supporter DPS for Biscuit stonks would be appreciated
)
I hope OLs aren't too necessary for Rouge
X1 ammo
Tetra Supporter gear
So many others I need to OL still
x1 ammo's not bad since helmet OL is a decent idea for any Nikke
I have the gear itself, but not the exp 
I can barely state 6 ultra
Coop 
Oh yeah cope

Skip guys, next banner will be ultra meta unit hehe
2b but good

I want both
Then don't skip rouge 

Another unit to indicate to me that shooting white circles is ethical 
At least we'll get a better countermeasure for randoms who auto-pick Blanc all the time 
FUCK you just made me remember I dont have a spare tetra set for her
Guess I will have to go back to the others AIs to farm them
I just go for stage 4 and end it there
is that not why you here :0
Me is here for it
so I actually have a ton of time to get Viper built? 
nice, guess I’ll start farming her treasure kits
Rouge’s good, she at least replaces Volume no? So that’s settled
Save brain cells for another day
Or Doro, depending
Sure I am
Can Dkw + rouge provide enough Cdr for a single b3 or you’d still need one more Cdr
Enough
Dolla dwife almost make b3 burst consecutively in Elision
There I found a use case for rouge so people don’t argue 
Just like how you should have skipped JK since they were right before anni
The solo alice comp soon

Well, JK have more used than Rogue
so they did worth to get
Just get her in 10 pulls, ez
how you using dolla in Lysion tower 
Yep, nior didnt have much going for her. Same deal with crown replacing tia 💀
I was desperated and wanted MaidPri to burst continuously
Turned out it works, barely
let me rephrase that how you using tetra in lysion 
sHelm
Yes shelm

man inhaled too much fume from his own cooking
wtf are you talking about
she doesnt heal
then noir provides burst gen to MGs
What
Clipped sg on boss
i'm honestly amazed how nikke community sometimes overrate some characters and underrate other.
I'm failing to understand in what pink-glassed world Rouge is a must pull when we have literally stronger CDR unit which is Volume (-8.21 cd) and we even have Dorothy for that role. Damage buffs are mid at best and only because damage type is an indirect 2B buff who is mid. All other dmg buffs are shit af - 5%? don't make me laugh. Burst buffs are weird as well because you realistically need only one of them at any given boss and buff triggers on her burst, not full burst which leads to your nikkes accidentally procing wrong buff (if it activated on full burst instead, you could've prevented that with coordinated aiming).
Conclusion: easy skip, only usable for those who don't have any CDR on account or for niche strat to stack buffs on 2B/Kilo, which will crumble the moment your precious single dps character gets a sneeze from high dmg attack. 
||This copy pasta fit her perfectly wtf||
oh I remember this one on dwife thread
Is max HP buff without healing really that good? You can still get one shot or burst down by the annoying tentacles or skeleton raptures.
It does nothing
Except for increasing blanc's heal I guess lol
Blanc always being there fixes it for Rouge, but I've never considered it anywhere close to healing, shield, or cover repair.
It directly buffs 2B and Guillotine, and that might be it?
I love this, I'll pull for rouge but I'm fucked xD
I'm surprised you don't have 2k+ yellows that never do us any good because we're all always out of the three on the right.
Me too, but the huge stockpile I have is just there.
All earned from Simulation since launch.
I have a good amount of Burst 1 manuals, surprisingly.
Not anymore, went to Naga since mine is behind where she should be.
I do, but you don't need to do that many.
Oh
They just really add up over time doing them daily.
real
I just realized this thread lost an e
you guys have books?
Thread? Skip
Megathread? Must pull
My bad
The only use it has is for units that want to be at lower hp%(not brid)
Or operate using % max hp
But in that case hp potency is better
Need correction 💢 💢 😭
Do Max HP buffs increase cover HP?
Has someone posted this before? I found this on FB
not that exact picture but many people have figured it out already
it's not really that hard if you ever looked at the squad menu or paid attention to the pos of nikkes in battle
if for example you'll use the entire Eva team
Rei and mod in p2 and p4
Asuka p3, more atk dmg for her is nothing

Its it because blanc exist?
mirror AI
crown-exia-ein-rogue-anis
please read around the comment if you want to know what I meant
ok im waiting for this vid 🧑🍳
so sword coin buff is only for people on the backrow?
or the buff can only happen if rouge on back row
If rouge is placed on P2 or p4, sword coin activates
And then she buffs 2 adjacent units
and fuck Alice
okay so what about the other p4, do they get the sword coin buff?
use 2 DPS
Too confusing
Were the kit descriptions reconciled yet?
If not, wait for ingame testing because remember Helm AoE burst
💀
KR JP say heal.
Skill 2 and Burst Skill 2 (Shield Coin).
EN does not.




Have u gone crazy
Do we know how jiggly her ass is?
Sniper Nikkes never get any jiggles
oi stop purposely spamming
Its rouge as is moulin rogue
rogue one
Most sane commander after watching NIKKE butt jiggle so much 
Does she release after end of evangelion
nice
I love that movie, but that's not about here
sure… but what I wouldn’t get is if her pair is meant to be blanc why tf would rouge also heal
and yeah I did read around your comment
its still wrong for the type of max hp the en says
I run a Rapun test in
Crown-Dps-Rapun-Anis-Centi comp
Rapun burst restart at 44s cdr
Later I replace anis with Dwife, the Rapunze burst resart at 39 immediately drops to 30
So with Rouge
Crown-Dps-RH-Dwife-Rouge combo single RH-DPS continuous bursting could be possible?

If its possible, kinda need a good solo dps here,
Alice burst gauge back up too fast (but maybe Rouge-Dwife could handle that)
Modernia too weak when boss appears
Asuka could work but not feeling it
Maybe SU cooking Pilgrim unit that could fill the puzzle here
Gauge could be manipulated by RH spam, some adjustments on that if taking out Centi-Anis for Dwife-Rouge
what is the point of this comp
why are you using anis
To meet the fast gauge limit

Basically to solo everything
























