#[Asuka Shikinami Langley] New Unit Megathread

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small osprey
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Sh is not alice

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Kek

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I MLB cuz 3 stars Collab units looks good

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I always preferred misato

static anchor
hazy ocean
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Isn't lud sss

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Think I think xLud is pretty meta defining

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In that sense
Only rh Alice and SBS should get sss

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Or only Rh and alice

small osprey
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Let my swordman alone

quartz jay
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might as well move sbs to god tier

small osprey
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No

quartz jay
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a tier higher than sss

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she's impossible to beat

small osprey
hazy ocean
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Rh, Alice get revived

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SW has her say

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Regardless, we're just going over everything again to see what we missed

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Or
Didn't miss

quartz jay
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tier list in this game is weird

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every nikke has their niche

hazy ocean
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Asuka ain't even niche man

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In her niche, she's the goat

hazy ocean
quartz jay
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tru

hazy ocean
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The reality sky wants is SBS in SSS tier campaign too kekw

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But otherwise in what you think, mod and xLud would be demoted to SS tier as well

small osprey
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Pls demote drunklet in hard campaign too

quartz jay
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You just throw a random element in and all elemental advantage nikkes (dps) suddenly get 2 tiers higher so how do we really read the tier lists these days

hazy ocean
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Me when viper one of the top DPS of water just cuz she can technically work as 3rd dps

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Never expected that damage output from her

woeful orchid
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ngl SBS saving my asses more on hard campaign than modernia. well it's only around 25% deficit though kekw

hazy ocean
woeful orchid
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I feel like those who is useful and still strong in general against all element should be a tier higher than those that only strong in their element, but eh, I'm no expert myself AnisShrug

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why did I see makima on the list? did I miss something?

rose lance
astral gull
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Asuka woukd join SS here

rose lance
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bro you put makima in there

astral gull
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Not SS-

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Asuka dmg > Mod

static anchor
astral gull
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The reason why she is SSS is Modernia dmg + SAnis support level

rose lance
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once we have mono ele content there will be no more arguing

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i'm so tired of alice sbs

hazy ocean
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Putting Rh on SS is crazy anyways :<

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No offence

small osprey
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scuse me texas rh is sss

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i know you are good alice player

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but for common pleople like me rh is alice 1-1

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I know is your opinion

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but anyway

astral gull
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Someone run:

  • Liter Crown Asuka Alice Modernia
  • Liter SummerRosanna Asuka WinterLudmilla Modernia

No macro.

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WinterLudmilla is also a stand in for Rei.

astral gull
sweet garnet
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kekw everything is oneshot in simulation

halcyon jackal
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where anis?

astral gull
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Shot range

sweet garnet
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funny enough same boss, no manual input, full auto

astral gull
sweet garnet
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no

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full auto alice

astral gull
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No macro ≠ auto.

sweet garnet
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lol

astral gull
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But whatever I can see 2nd team having higher damage.

sweet garnet
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i can stream to you if you want

astral gull
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Pick neutral element.

sweet garnet
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oh that's sRosa

astral gull
sweet garnet
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nothing i just didn't read properly

astral gull
sweet garnet
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running the sRosa xLud team on electric weak now

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do you want me to rerun the alice team too on neutral?

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I'LL DO IT ANYWAY

astral gull
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For science!

sweet garnet
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sRosa burst 7
Asuka 7/7/7

astral gull
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Damn half built Asuka

sweet garnet
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no burst manuals

astral gull
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Understandable

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What about

sweet garnet
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wanna fund me? peepoCute

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Crown Alice is running right now

astral gull
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Probably higher dmg

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Of course cus Crown

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Broken agh piece of shit

sweet garnet
small osprey
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midsuka

astral gull
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Why u auto

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No alice is that weak

sweet garnet
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oh i forgot to give Crown a cube

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so diff would probs be a bit higher

small osprey
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4/4/4 asuka no ols

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manual alice

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not my best performance

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neutral

astral gull
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What an unfair comparison

small osprey
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fire weak

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mod 28 atk 30 ele

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alice 0 atk 23 ele

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srosy vburst lvl 7

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sorry I cant test better rn

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im investing in anomaly characters

astral gull
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I want to see Asuka dmg and ends up seeing Alice and Mod dmg

small osprey
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yeah I agree crown is not the best b2 to test new units

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cuz not everything in this game is crown

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and remember guys,. there are characters who are dps and buffer
the best example is maxwell
she is a buffer but also a dps
her own damage is faaaaaaaaaar from red hood
but she is still SSS
I feel asuka a character more like maxwell than mod or alice

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sure if we talk about only min max damage we are leaving the tier list category

thick spear
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Lol he test more than prydwen

cold lark
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me who's low on gems and thinking about pulling for mari who feels like a default slot for a DKillerWife Pierce team

small osprey
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Dwife Mari Rh maxwell sounds good ngl

cold lark
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ok so honest question, is rei and mari good with only 1 copy?

simple hawk
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realistically speaking, asuka might be going with blanc+noir+mod because she puts mod on steroids?

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alice+sbs is icky, both units want to burst so asuka will be burst-less

grizzled sandal
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use teh rei

hazy ocean
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Unless if it's campaign ig

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Dilution goes hard

simple hawk
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raid setting bruh

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crown sticks with alice+sbs or any highest performing dps

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which we'll assume be alice in fire-weak raids

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we'll probably bench sg

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because no good fire sg (drake LUL)

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bunnies can go with mod and asuka then

hazy ocean
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If you want to aim to get top DPS for a team, maybe

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Otherwise over 5 teams idk

hazy ocean
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Shield + liter

simple hawk
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because mod kinda needs ammo from bunnies

hazy ocean
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Hmm true

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But Rei needs a team with fire allies

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Either her or asuka

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Otherwise Rei worse than mod

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Same with asuka
If theres no pierce, she needs fire allies otherwise she's worse than mod for st

simple hawk
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according to T-Bone, rei on burst is only on par with mod

hazy ocean
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Rei is xLud 2.0

hazy ocean
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But only for fire

woeful orchid
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If I have Rei, I might just pair her with Asuka in a bunny team, that team has ammo for both, and damage taken instead of attack damage up.
Mod can go with S.Ros/Mari maybe (?), not to mention most of mod user have theirs build with max ammo lines already

hazy ocean
woeful orchid
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hmm, need to see the comparison when Rei is available then

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dividing Rei and Asuka surely help with the upcoming shield boss

hazy ocean
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As a bonus, you get Rei doing probably 3× more damage than noir?

hazy ocean
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Asuka heals herself
Liter cover heals, if you really need it
Rei shields

red quest
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the best possible fire team expected is asuka+rei+mod

woeful orchid
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sigh, there goes my manuals trying to ramp up SRos burst sadge

hazy ocean
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That's definitely higher ceiling

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Or maybe even Naga over mod

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Ig that depends on how good Alice is on that boss

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But overall, I think Asuka never goes to crown hmmge

red quest
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mentat is saying alice isn't getting much benefit from asuka and she's better with sbs in most cases

woeful orchid
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Let Alice-SBS have their crown kekw

red quest
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there is a specific case that separating alice from sbs can be stonker but still situational

hazy ocean
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Back in SB raid this happened

red quest
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yea

woeful orchid
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how big is the damage drop if SBS is not paired with Alice?

red quest
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30%

woeful orchid
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damn that's big

red quest
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considering the boss has core

hazy ocean
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Geez, mari

red quest
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it still needs to be tested which one is better between mari and mod

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in dat team

deft cargo
# astral gull Someone run: - Liter Crown Asuka Alice Modernia - Liter SummerRosanna Asuka Win...

Asuka 10/10/10 lvl 5 OL (lvl0 boots), 0 copies, blue lvl15 doll, 56.66% elemental, 215.01% max ammo, 9% attack

Modernia 10/10/7 lvl 5 OL, 1 copy, blue lvl15 doll, 23.56% elemental, 238.74% max ammo, 21.51% attack

Alice 10/7/10 lvl 5 OL (lvl1 boots), 3 copies, blue lvl15 doll, 15.15% elemental, 230.52% max ammo, 9% attack, 10.36% charge speed, 2.98% crit rate

XLudmilla 10/10/10 lvl 5 OL (lvl0 boots), 0 copies, no doll, (elemental doesnt matter here), 84.47% max ammo, 21.51% attack, 8.01 crit rate

Liter 10/7/10

SRosanna 4/4/10

Crown 10/10/10

My manual Alice should be around 3-4 shots per second (i think) and no its not 100% of the time am not a robot hand dies.

Posting Elemental advantage first

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no elemental advantage

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i think its fair to say Asuka is Modernia lvl but Modernia herself shouldnt even be in SSS same rank as SBS tbh

small osprey
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Where 7b Alice DMG?

deft cargo
small osprey
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Nah bro I was kidding

raven phoenix
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Sky published an intersting video about her, she is good on fire and core but outside this she is clearly not meta

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Sky's test with her

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Against AI indivillia

deft cargo
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182k power vs 134k power doesnt seem that fair to me lol

half shuttle
grizzled sandal
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Guy actually took another Alice VS asska ss seriously

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When asska boosts alice

deft cargo
sharp bridge
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As always Alice investment is the true final boss

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My Alice is super mid. Sadge

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Plus I have boomer hands

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And shitty phone

clear talon
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nerf alice

half shuttle
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No

raven phoenix
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SU are just releasing good situational for bait SR which have with specific gimmick to make new units relevant and avoiding ofc as much as possible meta units you can bring in every raid
Just gacha system mechanic seens everywhere

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And now we have AI

deft cargo
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the "not meta" take im not getting

chilly basin
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Is assuka good?

raven phoenix
deft cargo
raven phoenix
rose lance
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now we have AI so you can count it as 4 main modes

raven phoenix
sharp bridge
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AI will be an important thing to focus on for folks too

raven phoenix
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It's why you will see in the future very strong units for this mode

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the mechanics are already well established

astral gull
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Wait for Rei.

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Asuka not full potential rn.

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But Asuka is still SSS.

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And meta.

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Just wrong emphasis in the review.

astral gull
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I'm posting this to request 4 data points from someone who has Asuka 10/10/10 with at least 3× Max Ammo and Alice 10/x/10 with at least 3× Max Ammo + Enough Charge Speed:

  • Liter Blanc Asuka Noir Modernia
  • Liter Blanc Alice Noir Modernia
  • D:Wife Crown Guillotine Asuka Naga
  • D:Wife Crown Alice Guillotine Naga

Asuka bursts first in 3rd team. D:Wife spam click. Do NOT change position. Guillotine is just a stand in because she buffs no one nor wipes the screen.

NEUTRAL ELEMENT. ELE DMG doesn't matter.

plain dove
astral gull
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I want to see the amount of bias

plain dove
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Ah

hollow flint
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rei and asuka is def busted

meager flume
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What can I use Asuka for nowadays? NovelThink

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Anomaly Intercept of the Wind element?

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I’m farming Kraken, not that TOMstare

simple hawk
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fire-weak raid, which is next raid 99%

celest fern
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but I cant level five on nvidia so Im stuck on kraken till I can

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need to get asuka up

timber aspen
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there is no big difference between the s4 and s5 rewards

torn bay
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there's no big diff between S1 and S7

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rocks matter

timber aspen
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arm box s4 : 45.25% -> s5 : 47.5%
rock box s4 : 43% -> s5 : 44%

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so basically
1, 2
------- wall ------
3, 4, 5
------- wall ------
6,7,8,9

timber aspen
torn bay
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it's been a while seen I used it this

celest fern
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its insane tho

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12 AI runs

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only one rock drop

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at 44% rate

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but if there’s not much difference then ig its fine

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2 rock levels 1 gear it is

meager flume
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3 rocks today for me with Full Burst event’s help

torn bay
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7

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again

meager flume
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Which is to say, I would’ve gotten just 1.5 rocks without. 💀

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I excluded the rock box, I have 444 of them now (= 4.4 rocks)

celest fern
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total

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dont complain

torn bay
celest fern
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pity boxes are a necessity for me

small osprey
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Sky vs prydwn

half shuttle
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Oh god sky has been shattered

small osprey
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Kisenix fault

delicate locust
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Sky deserves his sleepy time

torn bay
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I mean

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either I put wrong computing

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or something is bugged ingame

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and it can happen both ways

thick spear
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Asuka is definitely not SSS tier.

small osprey
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Yeah she is A in pvp

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My pvp dream ded

meager flume
shy kindle
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Probably better for fire weak campaign but worse otherwise

torn bay
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nvidia fight monkahmm

simple hawk
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is there pierce in nvidia?

torn bay
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at some point

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not the core

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3 other parts are piercable

hazy ocean
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There used to be, for a month

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The biggest of them all

meager flume
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Like, the hit is type “Pierce” sure, but only struck one hitbox?

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Oh you said not the core, okay

hazy ocean
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Did you watch the vid DieselNOD

torn bay
meager flume
meager flume
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I responded to the image and the “not the core” wasn’t above the image so I didn’t read it

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Discord gaslighting me

hazy ocean
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Hey man

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Don't say that now

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His yt vids are good

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Stream, maybe

half shuttle
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Ikr, I watch his videos and it's much more informative

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hup 👍

torn bay
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does he teach you how to pass CC?

simple hawk
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does he teach you about ligma?

plain dove
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what's lig-

cold lark
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isn't that a skin disease

minor bloom
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Nah, she is not in top 3 damage

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So she is hella bad

narrow topaz
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I have 0 context for this screenshot but man its funny

gleaming stratus
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Should’ve pulled for sneon clueless

thick spear
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Sss tier neon

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Can compete with crown

chilly basin
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Was assukas ass always this small

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Hope they make rei like triple her size

celest fern
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all their asses are on the smaller side

chilly basin
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What i was hoping mogudan rei im disappoint

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They have a mans ass not attracted to that

celest fern
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a smaller ass doesnt mean its a man’s ass..

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just say you dont like smaller butts lol

static anchor
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why is this 14 yo girl ass so small

celest fern
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💀💀

chilly basin
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I cannot goon to thisDoroWutDahel

half shuttle
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I think you mean ChilledGOONIS

narrow topaz
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she do be 14

thick spear
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why isn't there indept analysis reason to pull for asuka on the pinning section?

half shuttle
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Unclear. Snake hasn't done that yet

hazy ocean
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I've been busy

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Will do it tonight

celest fern
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thats the analysis

narrow topaz
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get a copy to buff alice into oblivion

small osprey
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Copy, feed her, mald indivilia

narrow topaz
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sky leaked kisenix dms kekw

small osprey
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Lol

thick spear
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i like snake better

clear talon
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we stan snake here

small osprey
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Meanwhile snake

meager flume
narrow topaz
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and yeah about the tiering

delicate locust
formal beacon
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In the TV Show she is Red, She is Strawberry blonde in the source, and also Blonde in Anima

delicate locust
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her hair is red in the anime?

sweet garnet
formal beacon
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Its meant to be red

formal beacon
delicate locust
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oh its meant to be

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looks brown

sweet garnet
delicate locust
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oh wait it looks like my red haired siblings

formal beacon
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Color is natural Red, and meant to offset the Plugsuit being red

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It isnt Anime Red

delicate locust
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yeah it is natural red i just forgot since i dont pay attention to my siblings

formal beacon
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her being Red hair is symbolic against Rei

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Rei has Red Eyes Blue Hair, Asuka has Blue Eyes Red Hair

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In the comics she is depicted more blonde ish, and in Anima Side Story her hair is blonde for... reasons but it is basically fanfic level

hazy ocean
delicate locust
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isnt slander if its true

delicate locust
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snek is all of prydwen

delicate locust
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snek is a website

formal beacon
hazy ocean
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@astral gull dumbass she's a redhead

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Watch the show

formal beacon
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and then responding to ibmei

hazy ocean
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Anyways

small osprey
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bro is colorblind pepepointlol

delicate locust
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just because everyone i live with has red hair doesnt mean i know what red hair looks like

formal beacon
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Its fine. I just like Pry reviews

rose lance
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people argue because some alphabet symbol

bitter spire
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Asuka is really really good at busting through shields. She's a lot of fun to play against Rebuilt Stout. But she's not SSS tier in my experience. She gets outdone pretty easily off her element.

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Given that Alice (available to everyone for free) is also very good at busting through shields, and so is Modernia, she's great if you need a 2nd shield buster.

hazy ocean
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Should You Pull / Is she good

As it stands, meta. Top tier unit for Fire weak. Extremely usable against other elements as well. Pull 1 copy. Dupes if competitive or are shinji lvl down bad for Asuka (hospital scene type beat).

A general tldr is that asuka just hits so fucking hard. She has a lotta buffs, mainly ATK and Attack damage. The problem, or blessing (up to you how you see it) arises when it comes to selecting her supports. She is TRASH with crown cuz crown buffs her much less compared to how much crown would buff other dps. The only 2 supports that actually buff Asuka the same as they would any other unit are blanc and s.rosanna.

Spend mileage if you want to, since anniv is 2 fucking months away you weirdos. Rei is worse than asuka so don't mileage her. But Mari can be a good case to mileage. It depends on the stage if the game you're on, how much mileage you have, and whether you have enuf pulls. Mari only needs 1 copy, while Asuka would definitely benefit from dupes. Regardless, if you're at the stage where you can't afford to spend more pulls, one copy of Asuka is fine.

Why is she good?

Asuka isn't a hard quest to solve. Her base gun is a potato since ARs suck ass in this game. But her skills just have so many fucking buffs. Scarlet had 110% atk buff? Cute. Asuka has 150% fucking attack damage, and 98% atk buff. On top of that, she can buff her own allies elemental damage and core hit damage, which adds to her total use. The downside is that she only buffs fire allies, so she's an S.Anis 2.0 in a sense. However, while s.anis buffs mid like scar and Ein, asuka buffs mod and Rei and Alice.

A cherry on top for asuka is her pierce, which is the final factor I personally think just makes her a tier above the rest. Sure, xLud is good, mod is good, s.anis is good. But they can't pierce. Pierce is fucking nuts in this game. I think Asuka is a mod lvl unit who can pierce and be better. And it's the final thing I considered before placing her SSS.

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Side note(s)
I rated her SSS tier, sky rated her SS tier. People think they have konto's account, 60 fps, and a frame perfect macro to go alongside it DieselNOD I'm gonna scrap the fucking boss Adds tier list soon now and replace it with a tryhard raid tier list for you nutsack midgets since you think you're so good madge
Also sky, for as much as you cried about Asuka c7. She's better than s.anis, who's also SS tier for you, and someone who you promoted to core 7 man. Stop saying how you regret c7ing Asuka but are fine with anis Think

thick spear
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idk u got this love and hate relationship with him and he dont even know you

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lol

bitter spire
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" The only 2 supports that actually buff Asuka the same as they would another unit is ___" < I feel kept in suspense!

bitter spire
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Thanks!

valid tide
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sAnis is SS tier because she is a must bring for electric teams, but not able to be used universally, Asuka is not a must bring for fire teams, nor is she universal

thick spear
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plus we dont have actual good Electric dps

hazy ocean
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Sorry I'm just tired

hazy ocean
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Asuka is a must bring for fire teams
From now on

bitter spire
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Asuka being an AR with pierce is pretty unique. I wonder which Nikke will backfill that kind of utility?

hazy ocean
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Asuka is universal

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She can definitely carry your bunnies or s.rosanna team to a higher standard than before

formal beacon
# valid tide sAnis is SS tier because she is a must bring for electric teams, but not able to...

In my tests, for a NON HIGH WHALE and NON macro user, she performs equal to or higher than Modernia. There are going to be different people that see her differently too.

Asuka is a great unit that is universal. Like Sanis, she buffs fire units in a way that pumps them against non elem. Is she the highest dps in the game? No, but I personally think from where I am in my roster and where I know many others are in my union, what she brings is easily SS+ Level

hazy ocean
formal beacon
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These Tier lists are silly and the wars over tier lists are silly too. Asuka empowers fire, and does great personal damage too. For non whales, she is going to be a high performer

hazy ocean
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It is
Kinda common
That we see
A duo pair of same element
Vs a neutral element boss

Due to the fact that there are only 2 teams that will ALWAYS be used
And the other 3 are volatile as FUCK.

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Only crown
And Tia Naga are safe

formal beacon
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And people not doing anywhere near 4.5 Alice (Skill issue sure whatever) she is a great pull and potential to be one of their highest dps team

daring field
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yea, these tier lists are silly indeed, lets burn sky down

formal beacon
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THAT is why I agree with her being SS/SSS Tier

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Tier lists are mostly for Meta Chasers anyways with less pulling power and less options. Most higher end players will be playing a different game anyways

hazy ocean
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Anyways

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If you guys think I'm wrong anywhere in the pins

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Ping me

bitter spire
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Cube is Bastion (with 4 ammo lines) or always Resilience?

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She reloads faster than Scarlet

daring field
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when we seeing sky vs not-sky boxing match?

hazy ocean
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Both
Fine

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Tbh

hazy ocean
bitter spire
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Presuming Cinderella is anniversary unit, she's going to be water. She has to be.

hazy ocean
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Yeah I mean if you wanna go that deep
No one can ever even compare to how good Alice is

bitter spire
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lol

daring field
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asuka is better than rei? is this because of pierce damage?

hazy ocean
bitter spire
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Iron is good, Fire is good, Wind is now good, Electric is...okay. Water has only Winter Limited units.

hazy ocean
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Asuka base is 90% mod
1 pierce is 125% mod

Not adding Asuka buffs as her own damage here

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Roughly

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They need to rerun the old SRs again without changing them tbh

This low core uptime shit is getting annoying

bitter spire
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What would they offer for players who already have the tier 3 frames?

daring field
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how else can they sell you on shotgun team?

hazy ocean
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Just spend more dollars and hire a pilot

hazy ocean
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I'm gonna

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Need to send in another paragraph

thick spear
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i want cinderella to be electric dps

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surely they made her electric weakness in chapter 32 mean something right.

delicate locust
timid edge
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water RL bet

bitter spire
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Too many hints, too obvious a gap in the roster.

timid edge
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rem stocks will shoot up

delicate locust
thick spear
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we can speculate since we haven't have water weakness since rezero collab, possibly true.

delicate locust
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I do hope that totally not Ramiel will be a change of pace compared to last SR

hazy ocean
halcyon jackal
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we need water carry

small osprey
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Ultra is just the VIP boss

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Wdfmiyfh guys? Cinderella is fkng Omni element

valid tide
# formal beacon In my tests, for a NON HIGH WHALE and NON macro user, she performs equal to or h...

Fair take, players at different stages of the game will view certain units differently. For example, my priority is union raids and from testing (for a specific subset of unions) Asuka does not secure a must-include slot against fire bosses like sAnis does against electric bosses.

In the end, tier lists are just a general reference and missing a S compared to gaining a S really doesn’t change too much in the end.

daring field
narrow topaz
narrow topaz
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stop it sky, its already dead

halcyon jackal
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sky slanders asuka hard

bitter spire
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The Soline video is funny though. A good amount of people got very confused when malders were using Soline on solo raids and started trying to build her. Learning to play Nikke well requires understanding the systems plus skill.

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I'm not strong on the skill part. So day 1 but still mid.

narrow topaz
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but soline is 1.4 asuka

wise hound
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Wasn't it that Soline and Brigid were good, but the problem was the fact that they could get turned off too easily cause of the above 90% hp requirement

bitter spire
#

There's a lot more ways to keep Soline topped up now. The real reason was she would randomly kill a member of your own squad for months. She was also buffed a couple times.

wicked shell
meager flume
#

A tall order when bosses have this thing called “target highest ATK”

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So I’m sure some Soline runners had regrets in some of the fights

red quest
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next SR boss also has it

wise hound
#

Time to run taunts

quartz terrace
astral gull
#

He did apologize to me as well.

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We talked in peace.

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I also said sorry to him.

torn bay
#

next time talk in pieces

astral gull
torn bay
#

👊

small osprey
small osprey
small osprey
daring field
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rip in pieces/pepperoni

torn bay
#

you should find me clearing 30-23A-1 in lowest of the month with

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Asuka

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the goat

small osprey
#

Pierce lovers

meager flume
wise hound
delicate locust
wise hound
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Gonna need this on all equipment

small osprey
#

It's a meh line ngl

wise hound
#

She got no ammo and doesn't have an ammo dump skill

shy kindle
#

If you run in a crown setup you can just commit to reload speed instead though

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I guess Summer Rosanna is her best B2 for that setup

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Simply since Damage Received won't clash with existing buffs for anyone

small osprey
#

Wait for mari

shy kindle
#

Modernia and Rei don't pierce and Asuka already has a tonne of attack damage tho?

celest fern
#

asuka wouldn’t benefit as much but the other 2 would get a lot

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attack% and attack dmg

astral gull
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Mari is for SW

small osprey
#

Mari is for rh

hazy ocean
#

Mari is for awesome21snake

sweet garnet
small osprey
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The fuck i just read...

torn bay
#

truth

boreal moss
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Even RH wants dedicated teams to support her

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There's a reason she's usually tied to DKW and Tiga

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and has Maxwell or X Lud as a pair mate

narrow topaz
#

what ? do you mean nikkes need specific buffers to get them to their top potential ?

small osprey
torn bay
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the only SSS nikke is Syuen

small osprey
#

Nah, no pvp meta, skip

rocky carbon
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So is Asuka worth investing in?

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Or is she niche char

frank kernel
#

zakathumbsup top tier

rocky carbon
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Can use in campaign?

frank kernel
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yes

small osprey
#

Pierce, extremely useful in campaign

frank kernel
#

zakathumbsup also check the main pin for this thread, overall good explanation your looking for

sharp bridge
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Tfw 3/4 of your initial overload gets you charge speed or charge damage as only line for Asuka

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Rip my gems

formal beacon
#

KEK

small osprey
#

i mean, even if you consider her ss

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she is buffing fuckign alice and modernia

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no reason to dont pull for her

torn bay
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my current story pushing team

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but my sanity reaches bottom after malding 30-23-A so much

meager flume
# rocky carbon Can use in campaign?

When you see others say "pierce, extremely useful in Campaign", they're talking about Asuka being able to skill up to having 25 seconds pierce duration when she bursts, which means her every shot is 100% pierce after her first burst unless something happens to Asuka.

Effectively perma piercing Assault Rifle past the first Asuka burst. Hot for your burst generation and ability to tackle threats.

Not to mention, she allegedly does six times the damage to any non-hitcount shields. Plenty of those abound.

meager flume
torn bay
#

u will know once you get there

formal beacon
#

so this guy is literally just being pepega right now. This is why threads like this are better and Snakes pins/comm votes

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a lot of problems with these content creators or people like this is they are so invested into the game with money/donations/etc they forget the audience and those that dont/cant spend.

small osprey
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Rip lehu

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Not even meta

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Demote her to SS soon pls

hazy ocean
small osprey
#

Asuka

hazy ocean
#

Asuka for ultra Sadge

small osprey
#

Yeah

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Wild

rose lance
#

why arguing about an alphabet character

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it's just good vs not-good

clever meadow
#

pedantic autism

feral pawn
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DoroThink is asuka actually meta for campaign push?

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or is it just for fire-weak

craggy birch
#

Truth be told, Crown quite literally made any other B2 feel lackcluster

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And if she or RH ever get powecrept I will seriously debate if I want to continue investing in this game

small osprey
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I mean, anomaly is a good start

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You don't need a necessary powercreep more than that I prefer a 1-1

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There are like 130 nikkes but not enough content for them

craggy birch
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Yeah , I just don't want to have a "keep up with the latest overpowered unit" trend

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They already make it really bad to keep up with all the new units they keep releasing

small osprey
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Well asuka isn't breaking the game

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We needed a fire strong unit

meager flume
#

Scarlet was relevant for over a year
Alice is still relevant, launch character
So.. they’re doing pretty decent

small osprey
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And we need a water too

meager flume
#

Rem had the shortest relevancy lifespan

small osprey
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And as you said if one day they stupidity powercreep crown

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That is sad dude

meager flume
#

Novel is perhaps the most painful “gone irrelevant” character otherwise

small osprey
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Water raid every 5-6 months

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Is not that hard, make the element relevant every day

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Not tryhard like anomaly pls xD

plain dove
#

I think this game just has terrible game design and direction in general but this isn't the place to discuss it Doro

thick spear
hollow flint
narrow topaz
#

I just saw someone say asuka is decent but there is better units to use on fire weak bosses

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where is the "other" fire dps units can't find em

daring field
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the best fire dps defender there is

narrow topaz
#

right how can I forge kilo the top 10 fire dps unit for the bosses

small osprey
#

Oh no wait

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Trony

narrow topaz
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yeah drake can't get into top 10

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rapi is a better b3

small osprey
#

Well fire dps units are

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Alice, asuka, mod, 2b, A2, drake, Trony i forgot one of them?

narrow topaz
#

we have 13 fire units

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1 being rapi and other one being product 12

wise hound
#

Limbus Company

rose lance
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Tell me Abt that

wise hound
#

But really its carried by its story

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Combat might be a bit hard to explain for me. But otherwise most units are usable and can all be farmable by doing the mirror dungeon which is the roguelite mode.

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It's mostly team building with the in combat units and then team passives that are not used in combat. There's only a total of twelve characters based/essentially from famous stories. What you essentialy farm for/get from gacha in-universe are parallel universe card versions of those characters called identities or you get EGO's which are like special moves that can be used with any identity of the specific character associated with it.

narrow topaz
#

aka they have 12 chars and alts

wise hound
#

All characters are in combat storywise, which is why I say everyone is invovled and those that aren't on the main team provide passives

narrow topaz
#

you can't use alt and the main one at the same time

wise hound
#

Combat otherwise is knowing how to do the fights for the bigger ones and actually reading enemy skills.

halcyon jackal
minor bloom
#

Did prydwen double down on the sss asuka drama?

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I don remember reading the asuka vs alice part before

torn bay
#

yes

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🤷‍♂️

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since people keep complaining about Alice vs Asuka

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for 90% of playerbase, who are also not here, they run this game on auto or half auto

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fast tap alice is not a choice

minor bloom
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4 taps per sec

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Bruh

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Like what am i?

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15 years old?

small osprey
minor bloom
#

So long story short is, alice is better especially if you can min max her and do manual

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But asuka is better by just being easier to use to get use

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While doing most of alice damage but not all

meager flume
#

I see Asuka as a way to finally kick out 2B

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So even if for some reason I don’t want to use Asuka over Alice

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Surely Asuka is more usable than my 1/1/1 2B

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But what’s this

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Weren’t we going to use Asuka with Alice?

minor bloom
#

2b is weird

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Its a defender with no team defensive skill

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Rather than skill that gear towards buffing her damage

lean glacier
minor bloom
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Ngl this drama is funny af

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Way too much investment over a fan tier list site

valid parrot
minor bloom
#

Doesn't help the fact ppl using macros snd high end alice to say

" Seee asuka damage bad thatwhy asuka bad"

While asuka was with in the same squad buffing that alice

narrow topaz
#

whats the speed of the auto alice ?

minor bloom
#

That i don know

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All I know its from what i heard, 4 taps per sec isn the best for tap alice

lean glacier
minor bloom
#

Collab skipper....

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Just buy the anni unit with tickets

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Leave pulling to collab

lean glacier
#

“But i want c7 anni”

minor bloom
lean glacier
#

So many skip comments and “saving for anni” posts before her kit was revealed

small osprey
#

lol imagine skipping pierce unit

minor bloom
#

Also seeing some ppl recommend don pull her is weird

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Like sure for a stacked account like you

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Maybe no need

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But for casuals and newbies

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She is practically the best shit they can get if they don have pilgrims

lean glacier
#

if sanis is a must pull then she’s a must pull. she wont even come back unlike sanis

minor bloom
#

I have some friends who finally passed SI

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Due to having her

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Since they don have pilgrims

minor bloom
#

Wont be surprised she might come back

delicate locust
torn bay
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or Trony

delicate locust
#

We don't speak of that name

torn bay
#

should I change o into a

delicate locust
#

Why doesn't trony have pierce, and how did I just realise she doesn't have pierce

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Thought too highly of a filler unit ig

hazy ocean
#

Can you show how much bullets you shoot per sec with Alice on video DieselNOD

minor bloom
#

Too bad i am slow

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3 is maybe the best

hazy ocean
# minor bloom Too bad i am slow

Just for reference

4 shots per second is the recommended safe macro settings to avoid any bans as of right now due to shiftups click detector

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Anything higher is considered bannable

minor bloom
#

Macros huh

minor bloom
hazy ocean
#

No

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They aren't

minor bloom
#

Shame

small osprey
#

I'm manual player DieselHello

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After 10 runs the carpal tunnel kills my hand

minor bloom
small osprey
#

My rate in 3 mins is 3,5-3,8/s

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Yeah, boomer hands

formal beacon
#

Im manual player but its funny cause when I try to go to 3-4 fucking alice does 0 damage

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like it doesnt recognize the shots lol so I just do 3 and dont care

small osprey
#

One day I tried pause before Alice burst to relax my hand

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Bad idea

woeful orchid
#

I turn on burst animation so that my wrist can have some rest kekw
It messed up my rhythm pepehands

cold lark
#

has anyone here done numbers on asuka vs bosses without element advantage + compared to other teams

torn bay
#

yes, a lot did

cold lark
lime night
small osprey
small osprey
#

Modernia: 10/10/4
LB0, Bastion Cube, Doll SR LVL 5
ATK===> 29,8%
ED====> 34,5%
AMMO==> 149,27%

Asuka: 7/10/10
LB3, Resilience Cube, Doll R lvl 0
ATK===> 0%
ED====> 47,12%
AMMO==> 136,34%

Alice: 10/4/10
coreMAX , Resilience Cube, Doll SR lvl 5
ATK===> 0%
ED====> 24,96%
AMMO==> 165,7%
CS====> 11,01%

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CROWN:

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HAHAHA:

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BUNNIES:

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shitting range boss, numbers sometimes there are kek

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FIRST BURST ALWAYS ALICE!!!!!!!

narrow topaz
#

why are you using shooting range ? wouldn't ur or ai bossess would be better to test on ? Or the bosses on there skew too much

small osprey
#

always xd

small osprey
#

Anyway 17 rocks in asuka and mid ols

formal beacon
#

since her burst lingers

small osprey
#

Last burst is Alice in 00:02 seconds

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so...

formal beacon
#

yeah but you are cutting off Asuka's potential. Was just curious on how much difference it would make if you swapped

small osprey
narrow topaz
#

tbh do you ever want to burst first with your sub dps

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its just losing more damage overall

narrow topaz
delicate locust
#

if thats their alice why did they copy a link for the image

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and not just post an image

small osprey
#

Link? What?

delicate locust
#

its a linked image

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shame

small osprey
delicate locust
#

i use mods to show linked images

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to get the link just copy the text by right clicking it
doesnt work on real images

small osprey
brazen ridge
#

Media link copied from other discord, whats the fuss about it cs_hilde_bee

celest fern
#

maybe people can just decide to agree they’re roughly around the sameAnisBruh

delicate locust
#

mostly to laugh at you and the bad alice

celest fern
#

in the grand scheme of things

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cause some people will have bad alice/can’t click fast enough

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which will make asuka better

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and regardless

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she can always be a pick for fire raid

narrow topaz
#

she will be picked

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we have like 3 fire dps units rn at max

celest fern
#

if you have really bad alice luck you’re bricked on her (I have spent over 20 rocks on her and still dont have enough charge speed)

celest fern
#

so yk

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its also a game

narrow topaz
#

never said she is bad, I said sub dps

celest fern
#

this shit is not that serious

celest fern
narrow topaz
#

and its momo who cares

celest fern
#

i just mean the drama in general

brazen ridge
#

My alice only has 45% less ele comparing to asuka, its tough to balance their stat. Jesus already got bit Doro

celest fern
#

its dumb

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like

#

she’s must pull regardless

delicate locust
#

alice mod asuka
rei 2b a2

drake kilo Trony

celest fern
#

if you go for dupes you’re whale or like the character

narrow topaz
delicate locust
#

a2 is better than the 3 on the bottom if parts are a real thing.

narrow topaz
#

oh man a2 is better than rapi

celest fern
#

that all these tests

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have fucking

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asuka and alice together

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when asuka buffs alice

small osprey
celest fern
small osprey
brazen ridge
#

I just trolled Elija thats all Doro

celest fern
#

bunnies do have a burst gauge issue yeah

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its pretty annoying

#

even with a clip sg in the team

narrow topaz
#

no sr/rl no burst

celest fern
#

but yeah most people are literally comparing peak alice with a unit that hasnt even been out for a week

narrow topaz
#

its same as sbs release

celest fern
#

unless you’re super lucky or had a trash alice to begin with its not even a fair comparison

narrow topaz
#

ppl cried that "why she is not sss" "she is better than rh"

small osprey
#

I really wanna try Mari Alice and asuka against Indivilia

narrow topaz
#

but yk

small osprey
#

I personally don't care if she is not alice

#

She is PIERCE

narrow topaz
#

we don't need another alice

small osprey
#

you know what that means

narrow topaz
#

and su was really good this year, they made a lot of sidegrades instead of full on powercreep

celest fern
#

i do use her in campaign tho

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cause mine is pretty goated

small osprey
#

Asuka is must pull

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Eden of the message

#

Also

small osprey
#

My asuka

#

Has only 47 bullets

celest fern
#

but they did make a lot of units that were useable at least

small osprey
#

She needs like 70

celest fern
#

good niche giving

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but now mari just completely took sros’s niche and shit all over it

celest fern
narrow topaz
#

thats the thing, and with ele damage being more important with ai and we are getting more niche sr's

celest fern
#

ive had the worst OL luck on her

small osprey
#

Nah is ok

#

I spent 17 rocks in asuka

narrow topaz
#

the wide roster is getting better by day

small osprey
#

And trash ols

#

I'm sad rn

celest fern
#

its like my alice

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like bro

#

its insane

#

how my alice is just perma bricked

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cause I cant 100% ca

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i have a

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pieve

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with blue attack

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and cs

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i temp locked it

small osprey
#

You need like 100 rocks for decent ols ngl

celest fern
#

THREE TIMES

#

I ROLLED A LOWER VALUE

#

ALL THOSE TIMES

#

THE CS IS 2.86%

#

💀💀

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like bro

#

theres 3 tiers lower than that

#

and i hit it every time

narrow topaz
#

just roll more

brazen ridge
narrow topaz
#

tbh sss high deficit is 3 units

#

that 3 has a huge gap between the oter units

celest fern
narrow topaz
#

scarlet might come up just because ch29(?) the ele one with the bombs

celest fern
#

but yeah i just have to keep rolling

#

once I get 100% cs on her itll be so much better

#

alice has gotta be the most aids unit to get rolls on

narrow topaz
#

my alice had cs but for the longest time I was missing tetra boots

celest fern
#

NEEDS 100% cs, at least 1 ammo, 4x ele, 4x attack…

narrow topaz
#

for comparsion I have 3 spare full sets of pilgrim

#

thanks to harvester I got my final and 4th piece on alice

celest fern
#

like its crazy how alice is basically “unusable” sub 100% cs

#

it was even worse pre crown

#

cause you needed 2x ammo minimum too

#

💀

narrow topaz
#

you still want 2x ammo

celest fern
#

i mean yeah

#

but it was like

#

a hard req

#

or else bricked

narrow topaz
#

because crown gets snatched by the new shiny comp on sr

celest fern
#

im waiting so bad for cube update rn

halcyon jackal
celest fern
#

SR has been lucky

#

i have 44 bastion batteries after hitting level 9

narrow topaz
celest fern
#

without buying any more

narrow topaz
#

we have 13 fire units at total

celest fern
#

I can’t wait to get mari for pvp

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💀

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so I can deficit push people in my bracket more on my scarlet team

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cause she can’t one shot them

#

and I lose

halcyon jackal
narrow topaz
halcyon jackal
astral gull
#

Its alphabetical

obtuse shard
#

Tower 550 crystal cave(electric), penetration double damage.

brazen ridge
small osprey
astral gull
brazen ridge
astral gull
brazen ridge
#

screw all 3 of u guide writers

plain dove
simple hawk
#

mlb asuka secured. ez top50 sr worry_sleep

hazy ocean
#

Momo plis

minor bloom
#

Scarlet still good at campaign

#

Sadly modernia practically replaced her for me

brazen ridge
hazy ocean
#

In high deficit

brazen ridge
#

and why is that?

hazy ocean
#

At true high deficit, 40%+

Only rh mod and Alice are usable dps

#

All others need to be on element to be used

#

You can try taking some dives into 40%+ gameplay on YouTube after CP change

#

It's very fun to watch them play cuz it's very accurate gameplay

brazen ridge
#

i see where u getting into

#

fold

meager flume
#

This is almost like team comp priority list

#

“If you own all Nikkes, you should reach for this team because it’s the best”

  • assign whole team tier SSS

“If you’re missing that team, reach for the next best Nikkes”

  • assign whole team tier SS

“Poor you, if you’re still missing that second best team, reach for the third best Nikkes”

  • assign whole team tier S

“What, you still can’t? Get out of here!”

  • assign everyone else tier A
#

Is that how tier lists are supposed to work? deadge

lime night
#

people were using Tia at 30%-35% before crown came around

thick spear
#

scarlet is SSS tier to these annoying ass mobs spawning at once. lately we just have too many stages require electric dps

#

shes conditional SSS tier

woeful orchid
#

yeah, those things are really annoying. My scarlet came back from retirement to help my push through the late 20s stage up to chamber, then goes back to retirement home again

#

the next screen wipe we'll have is Rei for fire weak, but idk I feel like using Mod on those stage could do just fine (?)

brazen ridge
#

"mod aoe" incase i got bit

#

i dont really use alice most of the time, just find away around it

lime night
#

The CP inflation made it easier to reach 30%, why is it harder to do now? because people are hitting 30% without good OLs unmaxxed skills??

plain dove
#

without adding anything

#

you can have so much inflated power from black lines of literally def/crit/hit rate

#

well yeah it's still the inherit difference of say 1m power before OL inflation stats versus 1m power after OL inflation

#

well in a way it's roughly the same if you consider how much power you would have without the OL inflation

#

just the actual % difference shrinks

torn bay
#

I saw some gang mem praised 200k CP Snow White

#

I asked: What are the OL lines

#

and they lost their minds

#

may be I should ask them where's Pavel Durov

woeful orchid
#

~~must be 12 lines full of Charge damage, defs, and crit damage wahahaha ~~

valid parrot
#

Black def and hp lines 💀

small osprey
#

Welcome in the world, mid ols

boreal moss
wise hound
#

I just want ammo

thick spear
#

Playing nikke 2

south belfry
#

Is nikke.gg review correct? Asuka is meta?

hazy ocean
south belfry
#

Article might not be updated. Just checking.

astral gull
#

Asuka's DMG actually rivals Alice when there is no core.

old star
#

first roll for Asuka DieselUhee

torn bay
#

so stronk

old star
#

and of course i have the dogshit 2 def lines on next 2 gear

#

spoke too soon

sharp bridge
#

Same bro, I ended up with charge speed and charge damage lines

astral gull
#

Jackpot.

red quest
#

is hit rate valid option for asuka?

sweet garnet
#

seems completely useless

wicked shell
#

its good at boosting cp over a blank line

rose lance
daring field
#

Was testing scope locked asuka and all of her shots during burst pretty much hits the core in the boss training room

red quest
#

I got fucking 2 hit rates deadge

boreal moss
#

Hit Rate I'd say is like the 3.5th best OL line (with crit rate being 3)

#

Crit rate is more consistently useful, but extra core hits are better considering her S2 (when applicable)

astral gull