[Asuka Shikinami Langley] New Unit Megathread

[main ingot]

iirc raid start at september 5th?

[boreal moss]

9/5

is Mari

[slow sparrow]

Ok

[boreal moss]

Asuka today, Rei next week, Mari the week after when SR starts

[main ingot]

all good, we get all of them

[slow sparrow]

We?

[main ingot]

[green trout]

Yes we

Otherwise brick

[woeful orchid]

ngl I feel like it will be quite hard trying to get all 3, imagine telling to pull all 3 to union mates

[shy kindle]

Maybe I should try to get into a better union after I MLB all three

[main ingot]

pull out that chinese meme
get all 3 for UR or kick

[slow sparrow]

Imagine having pulls as f2p after summer om

[hazy ocean]

Real

[boreal moss]

My alt since has 1000 mileage

[shy kindle]

Rolled 1 Sakura and 1 Rosco and stopped, because I knew Collab was coming

[hazy ocean]

You can always just use macro

[boreal moss]

Oh, almost double

[hasty gull]

and risk it with shiftups arbritrary rulings? My ass.

[boreal moss]

Have to be very very frugal as F2P

If a newer player, then life is rough

[main ingot]

just spend money, they wont ban you

[boreal moss]

I can't imagine having started during summer

[hazy ocean]

This is my server bich

Who you gonna complain to, me?

[hazy ocean]

The top brass hasn't gotten banned yet

[main ingot]

just in case u delete it

[hasty gull]

i already do that, not risking it regardless.

[shy kindle]

Yeah if I'd had to roll S.Anis banner rerun I'd have much less left for Evangelion.

Thankfully got her in original summer

[torn bay]

Alice = Asuka = Red

[hazy ocean]

There's more risk of getting banned manualling Alice I'm not even kidding

[hasty gull]

not with my boomer hands

[woeful orchid]

idk, I have like 600 but i won't take my chances with 2nd Anni pilgrim, my luck is pretty shitty on top of the 1% rates

[boreal moss]

Mileage is best saved for Pilgrims, yeah

[slow sparrow]

You just need one mileage for anachiro anyways

[boreal moss]

Throw all rolls at collab before using mileage

[shy kindle]

You mean 800 right?

[hazy ocean]

Lemme elaborate

Fire weak:

• Asuka > Alice > red when not in crown team
• Alice > asuka > red when in crown team

Not fire weak:

• Rh > Alice > Asuka when in crown team
• Asuka = Rh > Alice when not in crown team

Assumes 4 shots/s Alice

If 4.5 shots/s Alice, no one is catching Alice or coming close to her

[shy kindle]

Yeah ideally treat Collab banners as a way to convert gems to mileage

[slow sparrow]

If her mlb is super lewd yeah sure, otherwise no

[torn bay]

too long won't read

[main ingot]

Alice > everyone
u wrong

[woeful orchid]

dw, the lewder one will be locked behind gacha, no need to mlb

[clear talon]

:asukaka:

[main ingot]

who tf is red

[clear talon]

hood

[main ingot]

ok

[hasty gull]

the wolf girl

[boreal moss]

SSR Rapi at home

[green trout]

Some b*tch who rigged the popularity poll

[torn bay]

btw, you must burst with Asuka

so don't replace Modernia the god of off burst DPS

[hazy ocean]

I did say that

[main ingot]

what does it takes to have 4.5 shot alice

[hazy ocean]

If you add
What Asuka buffs
As her own personal damage

Asuka > Alice > rh

[main ingot]

that's true

[shy kindle]

Assuming core

Thankfully we're reaching the point where teams depend on the boss

[main ingot]

with out core alice should do more damage

[shy kindle]

Instead of just running same top 5 meta teams

Every raid

[hazy ocean]

Without pierce Rh and Alice can suck it

[main ingot]

nvm i have it i just never counted

you know the funniest thing happened to me
Kisenix believed that i didnt use macro

[shy kindle]

I fire weak boss who can't be pierced would be pretty fucking funny

Alice and Asuka in shambles

[hazy ocean]

He's a very good ol' soul

He doesn't macro himself and assumes stuff

Also hates malding, especially sw

[main ingot]

i just didnt reset SW cuz im afraid of getting kicked out of union

i hate using her too

[hazy ocean]

New pierce buffers are in

Does mari make SW great again??

[main ingot]

i asked if i can reset SW and the answer was vague

[woeful orchid]

I jsut got SW after 8000 pulls but i don't think she will be available to use any sooner

[shy kindle]

Miranda/Mari/SW/Maxwell could be a fun meme

[main ingot]

it's miserable using sw ugh

[woeful orchid]

Zwei-Mari for anti malding SW?

[hazy ocean]

Where healing
Where cdr

[main ingot]

dude

zwei buff duration is 5 second

have fun using her

[hazy ocean]

For critrate

These people don't care about crits

[main ingot]

i hate sw even more after seeing that

[main ingot]

[woeful orchid]

well I have unbuilt SW and 0 raids with her, so idk how mald it was trying to crit fishing. and with more units that can dish good damage, I hope I won't be using her at all

incoming chatterbox 2.0

[hazy ocean]

Isn't the duration short for just critrate

The other buffs are enuf seconds long

[main ingot]

i was if i care about it or not

cuz i reset yulha too

[cold lark]

OH GOD IS THE MAINTENANCE DONE I FORGOT TO COLLECT MY AFK OH GOD

[woeful orchid]

not even starting yet

[main ingot]

can i run this and be happy @hazy ocean

[hazy ocean]

What is this dawg 😭

[main ingot]

i reset yulha

and there're 3 new units coming

and 111 zwei

how tf

[hazy ocean]

I think just give up on sw

[main ingot]

you know this is the alternative to sw

cuz i dont have 2b volume mast either

[hazy ocean]

What

[main ingot]

111 2b no elem

777 voume

644 mast

[hazy ocean]

Resetting Yulha was a mistake

[hazy ocean]

Should've reset her

[hazy ocean]

And her

[boreal moss]

Imaging giving up on SW

[main ingot]

i reset yulha then 101010 leona
then proceed to not use leona 2 sr in a row

[narrow topaz]

its time for some good sw support

right su

[main ingot]

its ok

im happy now

[boreal moss]

Surely Grave will be the new Yulha

[hazy ocean]

Mod
Alice
Dkw
Asuka Rei
Flex

Can be your split

Mod with max ig

[boreal moss]

Yeah, that's the split I'm planning on doing

[narrow topaz]

how about 2b rei mod ?

[hazy ocean]

2b is a 10/10/10 uniy

[boreal moss]

Just can't figure out supports

[narrow topaz]

every unit is a 10-10-10 unit for the last year

[boreal moss]

Nah

[main ingot]

dont worry
imma just cope t5

[hazy ocean]

SBS was 10710

[main ingot]

this is peak ok

[hazy ocean]

And T4?

[main ingot]

look at all those 101010 dps

[main ingot]

SG bunnies with drake

[boreal moss]

S Sakura is 7/10/10

[narrow topaz]

just miranda sw smh

[boreal moss]

10/10/10 M Priv isn't worth imo

[narrow topaz]

we don't know the boss yet but I don't think sg will be usable this sr

[boreal moss]

even though I still have her 10/10/10

SG is probably usable

Asuka is AR

so midrange boss

[narrow topaz]

asuka pierces

[main ingot]

everyone said that every season but it works anyways

[narrow topaz]

and has bonus damage on shield

[boreal moss]

SG with Leona range buff means should be viable

[narrow topaz]

so boss probably spams shields and has a core behind it

[boreal moss]

and yeah, SG comp worked on Mirror Container who was far range

[cold lark]

guys, thoughts on this team

bunny alice, winter ruppee, tia, liter, redhood

[boreal moss]

[narrow topaz]

balice adds nothing tbh

[boreal moss]

Where's your B2

RH?

[cold lark]

yes

[boreal moss]

[shy kindle]

Needs crown instead of Liter to give the whole chain ATK buff

[boreal moss]

Would work for Sim Room

[main ingot]

wdym
she makes you happy

you dont have to mald your brain out for no healing and tove rng

[cold lark]

ok, new team.

BAlic, WRuppee, Tia, RedHood, Crown

[narrow topaz]

in the context of "bunny alice, winter ruppee, tia, liter, redhood" ?

[main ingot]

nvm

wtf is that team

[shy kindle]

When the overclock rule is "No B3 bursts"

[main ingot]

staph

[cold lark]

ok i'll take my leave, i've given enough brainrot

[hazy ocean]

They've cooked the kits

Next up is minigame and interception

[narrow topaz]

I hope interception either fun

or 1 shotable with sw

[main ingot]

not auto sync lvl 400

[narrow topaz]

at least I can get my tetra boots

[plain dove]

inb4 it's SR level difficulty

[narrow topaz]

after a long time

imagine if its multiple team si

[woeful orchid]

difficulty 7 SR

[fickle skiff]

SR level difficulty is fine
Team 1 is simple
It's managing 5 teams which gets tricky

[midnight oriole]

3 team SI sounds fun

[subtle meteor]

imagine if she wasn't AR

[meager flume]

We will find out in 7 hours

[royal raptor]

I sure as hell hope not

[old star]

evabngelkdion

[timber ibex]

why must they make collab units meta? I don't want to care about collab units

[small osprey]

Tell that to my arena whale who was demoted to top 7 because he skipped emilia

Same here, skip these units and leave solo raid

[narrow topaz]

this might be the most broken collab units ever

[boreal moss]

They are without a doubt

Pretty much what S Mary and S Neon wanted to be

Shield-breaking gimmick aside, they're the foundation for a mono-element comp

[fading dew]

not this one

this meta feature shield breaker, which is the first

we don't know if Pilgrim will get the same treatment

[royal raptor]

I mean historically this has been the case. I've regretted EVERY collab unit performance wise so far. They were always outclassed immediately or were too difficult to fit into comps even if they were somwhat decent

Asuka is looking fairly strong but I'm gonna wait this time around, if she is still looking to be standalone meta unit by the last day then I'll pull

[boreal moss]

Bright side about these units is that there's nothing of note coming directly afterward

Anni in two months, but that's probably only one slot taken assuming we're getting a DPS unit

2B has seen fairly consistent use as a slot-filler DPS, Emilia is a fairly critcal PvP unit, and Rem's lack of use is mainly just a combination of Crown existing and no water-weak raids since; she'll definitely make her return

CSM aside, A2 is the only unit that has truly fallen to obscurity

[narrow topaz]

csm

[sand tree]

csm was look a coat

[small osprey]

TBF her mechanics are good and interesting but there's not enough content for her

That is what I think

[boreal moss]

Yeah, our endgame is just PvP and bossing, and she's designed for mobbing

If we got something like an endurance survival mode, A2 would do great

MoG but with normal gameplay

[small osprey]

yeah survive 10 mins

Mobbing

[plain dove]

tbf they also don't want to make bosses with 4+ parts for A2 and Emilia to murder

[boreal moss]

Even if they did, parts just make pierce units stronger, too

[small osprey]

As I said not enough content for them

[woeful orchid]

10min defense battle??

[small osprey]

that's too

[plain dove]

assuming they line up at all

[boreal moss]

so SW/RH/Alice would still end up outpacing

[small osprey]

Our pierce units melted parts even in high deficit

So...

[boreal moss]

Asuka being pierce heavily increases her lasting power

cuz pierce is arguably the strongest mechanic a DPS unit can have (aside from cases like Kraken where they intentionally nerf it)

[sand tree]

so asuka is the best of the 3?

[small osprey]

What not, a mode with 3 battles 3 mins each

1 team is modernia

[boreal moss]

By standalone performance, yeah

[small osprey]

1 a2

1 cope

[woeful orchid]

with Asuka's powerful kit, I wonder how would she fare on campaign with Crown-DKW-Naga-RH

[boreal moss]

Rei is a team player, and, unlike S Anis and Exia+, her team-play relies on strong element, not matching element

S Anis has the incredible skill of just increasing ATK of matching element, making them more universally strong

[small osprey]

She is modernia who can burst I guess

Rei can fit easily in tiga

[boreal moss]

Meanwhile strong element buffs become useless when in neutral play

[woeful orchid]

will she outdamage alice/mod in that line up though?

[boreal moss]

Asuka has some team-play to her, but she's mostly just a selfish hyper-carry

Gaming chair Alice? No way

She beats Mod as long as pierce is useful

Although not sure if her S2 would actually push Mod past her in DPS if they're on the same team

That's more something to check with Gatrix

I tend to look more at a combination of abstract analysis and practical playtesting. I don't do the heavy math

[woeful orchid]

Crown-Asuka-RH-Mod-Naga on fire weak campaign?

[sand tree]

https://tenor.com/view/pepo-g-peepo-gif-22945943

[boreal moss]

For mob-dense levels, I could see it working

but if it's more densely elites, Alice probably better than Asuka unless you don't like breaking your finger

Alice is stronger than Asuka, but Asuka makes Mod stronger than Alice does

Oh wait, scratch that

Her team buff requires Rei

[woeful orchid]

tbh I rarely run mod on hard 30s because I feel like she clears mob slower that SBS

[boreal moss]

Alice superior straight up

[boreal moss]

Same tbh

My initial impression of Asuka really is that she's the fire version of S Anis (ignoring PvP)

She'll excel in her strong element without question, and she'll be competitive for DPS slots in neutral teams (T4/T5)

Rei seems like the better unit to try in campaign pushing

[unreal atlas]

[small osprey]

Investment for now?

Don't tell me 10/10/10

I don't have mats even for 7/7/10

[formal beacon]

we also have 4 weekends in a row of Full Burst Weekend

[small osprey]

Yeah that helps too

I guess asuka's s1 and burst are important

[plain dove]

$$$

[jagged horizon]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1012288696336273428/1070326844991225876/credit_card.png

[hazy ocean]

Skill investments

1/1/1 -> 4/4/4 -> 7/7/7 -> 10/10/10

[small osprey]

[hazy ocean]

Overload recs:

4× ele
4× atk
4× ammo

Passable: critr/critd

[hazy ocean]

Suck it

[small osprey]

As always 7/7/7 means mid dmg in solo raid

[half shuttle]

Basically needs lots of dps

Got it

[tardy garden]

my skill mats

[thick spear]

hell no 12x ol need

the question is if she will be high priority to investment. Will see

[arctic torrent]

so is she meta or will she be powercrept like every other collab unit after their respective solo raid

[stiff swan]

7/7/7 sounds nice and cheap

[daring field]

Seems to be fire raid meta

[hazy ocean]

777 1 ele 2 atk 2 ammo asuka

10 4 10
3 ele 3 atk alice

fair comparison

core 5 vs lb0

asuka mid 💯

3 atk 1 ele 3 ammo mod, lb1

1 ele 2 atk 2 ammo asuka, lb0

oh fuck, forgot to check the shield thing

yeah the rei thing was fake

any shielder works

also confirmed, blanc shield doesnt work

so it has to be individual shield

[woeful orchid]

so crown and tia works too?

[hazy ocean]

Yes

[woeful orchid]

so it kinda lower Rei's necessary to Asuka right?
~~I'm coping cause at this point I can only pick for either Mari or Rei ~~

[proven moon]

whats the go to team for her right now? Does she fit into any of the meta spots?

[round dove]

Where review......

[proven moon]

yea I know she's good and I boosted her a bit just trying to figure out if she fits in my main team or just bossing

[daring field]

yo snake, where's my hour 1 full comprehensive analytical review at?

[astral gull]

Max ammo, ELE > ATK

Essential: 2x max ammo

Ideal whats left

Any hitrate breakpoint

[grizzled sandal]

my god we have two gals requiring max ammo this batch

[simple hawk]

just use crown+reload cube

smh my head

also wtf is with snek's numbers

I thought asuka's supposed to be busted

[potent nacelle]

what do we think chat?

[daring field]

he said it himself, a fair and totally not skewed comparison

[plain dove]

honestly you kinda want a healer on the first team comp so asuka has perma attack buff from her S1

and then bunny team lacked a proper shield buff for her as well

[raven phoenix]

We need more test clearly it's from a guy in the sky's stream with 10/10/10 and some elemental and ammo on her (manual Alice vs Auto)

Seems not so OP but let's wait more test

[shy kindle]

As long as you have CDR isn't her burst healing enough?

Asuka should only need a shielder (Tia, Crown, or Rei)

S1 is a full 25 seconds, and her burst heals for 10.

So she has 35 seconds every rotation of S1 being up.

Even a gimped B2 CDR like Dolla should be enough for constant uptime.

[astral gull]

Its not busted

Gatrix inflated the numbers

Snake inflates the wording more

[simple hawk]

smh

[astral gull]

So u get inflated data + inflated wording

Go figure

[simple hawk]

now give up your foreskins

[astral gull]

Gatrix damage assumes got 1 pierce

Lmao

[plain dove]

hmm I gues it does last long enough to cycle back to her burst

I mean most people don't test properly. It really should always just be B1/B2/DPS being tested that's it maybe 4th buffer to showcase at "full capacity" then swap to whoever you're comparing to

[narrow topaz]

at least we have real bosses to test on

[plain dove]

I saw that

[shy kindle]

Asuka team mates vary based on who you're fighting, which is interesting.

• If has core, Fire code ally who hits core (Alice, Rei, Modernia)
• If fire weak boss, shielder B1 or B2. Rei only shields when she bursts which means no S2 during Asuka burst.
• If pierceable, needs B1 CDR. If you can cycle both bursts in ~25 seconds she has constant pierce.

[analog patrol]

She good?

[woeful orchid]

then just slot in Reisuka on Tiga team for constant Asuka shield and core damage
RH can go with Mari

but both needs 4x ammo lines on them

[shy kindle]

Mari definitely goes on DKW pierce sniper team

For upcoming raid Asuka will want Crown or Tiga, but for future non-fire that isn't important for her

[plain dove]

https://i.imgur.com/MYiwkTe.png

https://i.imgur.com/KcNMPZL.png

my shit shooting range test

fire weak

19 on alice

23 on asuka

asuka has uhhh

10/7/10
OL (+0)
3x Ammo, 2x Attack, 1x Ele All level 11 rolls

oh also R Doll level 0 on Asuka

Alice has R15 Doll

but mah Alice x SBS ship

[woeful orchid]

I conveniently roll a single line on my 3 pieces resulting 2x attack and 1x ammo.
after I unlock the 4th and trying to reroll the 2x attack pieces, should I focus on ammo first or elemental first?

[plain dove]

hmmm ele is always important for DPS and honestly idk how bad low ammo affects her DPS

if you run her with reload speed comps like say crown/privaty and throw on resilience she might be fine without high ammo

[woeful orchid]

hmm, I guess so, she got the normal 1s reload anyway, not like scarlet

[small osprey]

7b vs 2,8b

It feels like su gonna nerf Alice or her M one day xD

[wicked shell]

Lifesteal only triggers once

When the buff is applied

The actual heal t8cks dont trigger her s1

[shy kindle]

Still 25 seconds, a B1 CDR should be near constant uptime

[wicked shell]

Yea pretty close

[shy kindle]

No need for a healer just for S1, basically

[wicked shell]

Ye

Going with like 15s rotations its still 83% uptime.

[shy kindle]

And the missing 5 seconds would be outside burst anyway

Yeah my Alice is 0 Ele.

I'm not made of rocks, Ele and charge speed and ammo???

[simple hawk]

atk too

for non-fire shit

[torn bay]

without pierce, what's the diff?
Alice dmg with core + Alice dmg without core
vs
Asuka dmg with core + Asuka dmg without core

better be

[shy kindle]

Asuka doll gives core damage, while Alice's doesn't?

[torn bay]

because you can revenge CC

[shy kindle]

So very mild difference

[torn bay]

you are such a disappointment

[woeful orchid]

my useless AR doll now has another nikke to slot in, before it goes to recycle again 💀

[shy kindle]

17% core damage isn't completely useless

[unreal atlas]

Sooooo is she a MUST have or just someone nice to have but not necessary if already have invested teams?

[torn bay]

oh talking about doll

[woeful orchid]

ah, I mean I got abundance of AR dolls with no good units to slot in

[torn bay]

17% core dmg on Asuka vs 35% charge dmg on Alice

I don't know, seems quite close

cuz it's 17% on top of 260% (100% from Naga, 60% from herself)

vs 35% on top of 350%

the diff exists but it should be noticeable

unless we are clicking Alice so fast it logs me out of the game

[shy kindle]

Would also depends on Crown vs Tiga support

17% core would matter more for Crown team

Hmmm

I wonder how well

Doro/Crown/Asuka/Alice/Privaty

Would go

[torn bay]

I don't know why 17% core matters more for Crown team

[shy kindle]

Less diluted

[torn bay]

Tia Naga doesn't give core dmg?

[shy kindle]

Crown doesn't

[torn bay]

Tia doesn't too

[shy kindle]

260->277

Vs

160->177

[torn bay]

so Naga doesn't give core dmg bonus on Tia team?

[shy kindle]

160 is Crown team

260 is Tiga

Oh I see confusion

I'm not putting Naga with Crown

[torn bay]

what do you put then

B.Alice for constant healing?

[shy kindle]

B.Alice or Rapunzel probably yeah.

Then Tiga can be another team

Or commit to full reload speed with cursed

Doro/Crown/Asuka/Alice/Privaty

[plain dove]

BAlice is good

better than Privaty if you're not running

[woeful orchid]

BAlice can give extra Ammo which Asuka and Rei needed if we put them together

[shy kindle]

Yeah but it's also a question of what team actually wants Doro/Priv

Especially since B.Alice here means no B.Alice for SG, which means we run low on CDR B1 or run a cursed SG team.

[woeful orchid]

but if Asuka and Rei with crown, where will Alice-SBS move? bunnies?

will Privaty finally get some rest from Solo Raid?

[shy kindle]

Just look at it from B1 options:

• DKW
• Liter
• Volume

Then pick two:

• Doro/Priv
• Tove/B.Alice/B.Soda
• Miranda for SW cope

Miranda is fire, so a Sw team is viable as an option.

But if we're giving B.Alice to crown, probably still need Doro/Priv somewhere

[woeful orchid]

but if the enemy have highest atk focused mechanic, I think Asuka can tank it without healer?

[wicked shell]

Prolly, she got lifesteal

[shy kindle]

B.Alice is giving max ammo here more than heals.

I'll probably try running Doro/Crown/Asuka/Rei/Priv and just commit to the reload and give S.Anis a break. Asuka's low ammo is a real concern unless she has insane reload speed.

[woeful orchid]

well, crown+resil already giving 70% reload speed anyway

*74%

[shy kindle]

With crown + Priv it's 94%, could even take something other than Resilience.

If only we had actually good offensive cubes.

But tbh it's more about a convenient team to use Doro

As opposed to giving Asuka her hypothetical optimal setup

[torn bay]

so Asuka is a tank

time to run Yan Miao Asuka Nora

[small osprey]

Tsundere power

[clever raven]

She is atk type

How come she is tank

[torn bay]

just like alice san

if you can lifesteal back your hp

you are a drain tank

[minor bloom]

So how good is asuka?

[simple hawk]

aatrox in nikke before gta 6

[torn bay]

I would need executioner calling for that shit

wait Diesel exists

man, zixk and Merry haven't tested shield interaction against nuke

[junior garden]

So…how meta is she? Will she drop off a cliff after her event is over a la rem, or is she a worthwhile unit to invest in for future raids?

@hazy ocean any verdict yet?

[serene owl]

check pins

[junior garden]

Usually there’s an in depth analysis. I see none

[formal beacon]

People are telling me shes performing poorly on sky's stream?

or are they just making a big deal out of nothing

[fading dew]

yup

to see her at best, she need Rei

Big Rei, not little Rei

[small osprey]

[formal beacon]

Crown gives shield though so should be an option, no?

[fading dew]

Japan translation state she only activate passive with Rei's shield

[small osprey]

It was snake testing

If I'm not wrong

[toxic bone]

probably a translation thing. At least the wording in TW version is the same "barrier" requirement that tia, crown, etc can provide. Probably best to check KR for canonicality.

[junior garden]

So…abnormal duo?

Maybe trio? Mari is a bit more flexible

[shy kindle]

If Crown and Tia work they're better than Rei

Because they work during both bursts

While Rei only shields in her own B3 burst

If we get a 40s CDR B1 who shields, Rei's shield becomes relevant

[toxic bone]

As far as solo raid is concerned, we may need to slip the three up into different teams. I am afraid the shield from the boss may by too beefy that multiple teams need the shield breaker buff

[shy kindle]

DWife pierce team won't care about the shield unless it has an instakill that requires shield breaking to prevent

Although Mari likely on that team anyway

[coarse willow]

B Scarlet and Alice can go to rem and emilia

[toxic bone]

Just put her with crown, S2 works. (Sorry for non-english UI)

[shy kindle]

My Emilia is going to steal Alice's buff

[shy kindle]

Crown her best friend by far then

Shield & reload

The two things she needs most

[toxic bone]

yeah 20 base ammo is too few, and her dmg comes from basic attacks

[minor bloom]

Thats why you OL It

Even then

Her reload is 1 sec

Rather than scarlet 2 sec

[shy kindle]

Still 1 sec too long

[minor bloom]

Bruh

[shy kindle]

Wow I cannot find the rate of fire for an AR anywhere on the internet

Was trying to work out how long it takes Asuka to empty e.g. 30 bullets

[torn bay]

if you test on neutral ele

the shield is not required

only heal is required

man, I can't test shit at least 6h later

30 boolets?

30/12

[shy kindle]

Thank you.

Although, how is 12 bullets instead of 10 not a FPS gain? Not sure I understand that bottom row

Oh is that how much it should be in theory

Vs 60 fps

I see

[simple hawk]

would asuka or rei be good at fire weak hard campaign?

[torn bay]

Rei won't

she requires burst

to match non burst Mod

that's a nah

Asuka is

she matches Alice on burst

well, not 4.5 Alice tho

but if I do 4.5, I get log out first

[shy kindle]

Rei might be good for stages with lots of mobs, she has the screenwipe burst

[torn bay]

idk, may be, may be not

my lv 10 burst Scar with 5 stacks s1 dealt 50% hp of mobs on 27-21

low ele roll tho, still ele adv

[simple hawk]

ch 33-34 fire weak again

[fading dew]

I see, any shield work

[shy kindle]

It's like Naga

Any shield placed on allies directly

Centi won't work

[minor bloom]

What cube is best for asuka?

[graceful raptor]

Guys

In short answer Asuka is better than Rh?

Seems she will stay at core 0

[simple hawk]

did someone watch tim’s video?

[elfin lintel]

What's the recommended overloads for Asuka

[plain dove]

if you have decent ammo go bastion if none go resilience

[elfin lintel]

thx

[stone mason]

so how good is she? should i get 1 copy or mlb?

[obtuse shard]

godlike

[obtuse shard]

WTF

so close

[teal cedar]

what are your OL lines on asuka?

[obtuse shard]

22.15 ele & 11.11 atk
7% crit rate,3 ammo cap
others just trash

2 charge speed 1 dmg =_=

[teal cedar]

ah ok, im stuck with no ele, but with 37% atk

lol

need to get rid of some atk lines or get lucky and roll atk+ele

[obtuse shard]

sounds painful

[teal cedar]

yeah, but with anomaly at least rocks aren't depressing now

[obtuse shard]

[torn bay]

fire weak?

also Mod and Alice have free 60% dmg up here

most of test goes back to square one when Xlud was released

"damn Xlud loses to Mod"

"stop putting them together, run 2 tests"

"oh"

[obtuse shard]

yes

lose to mod is not a shame for me

mod is the ceiling

asuka buff mod a lots

scroll up

they got almost same buff
alice 28 atk
asuka 22ele 11atk

abnormal interceot ( Kraken )

[formal beacon]

how built is your mod?

[obtuse shard]

37.3%ele 17.99atk 13.38 crit rate

[formal beacon]

so decent stats

[obtuse shard]

unlucky

[formal beacon]

Yeah not super high end but at least decent

[obtuse shard]

some nikke i feel alway get bad lines

some just super lucky

god damn it

[torn bay]

@astral gull @hazy ocean ask for his perm to put into our review

[hazy ocean]

Not a fair comparison

Modernia isn't bursting

Doesn't get crown buffs

[boreal moss]

Not explicitly

JP uses two different terms

Doesn't mean they don't necessarily work

That's why I said need to click the yellow text ingame to confirm

[hazy ocean]

Well It was proven wrong

[boreal moss]

Tia/Crown are バリア while Rei/Asuka are シールド

Could've been typo due to the anti-shield skills being in there

[boreal moss]

Good

[rose lance]

barrier/shield if anyone can't read

[boreal moss]

JP is usually thorough, but it's had its issues, too

Trony was messed up in all languages

[rocky carbon]

What r best teams to pair with Asuka rn?

[boreal moss]

Fire DPS units and the usual supports

Depends on the boss for specifics

[rocky carbon]

But is Asuka like, good or decent?

[deft cargo]

Fire weak on auto

Asuka 10/10/10 lvl 5 OL (lvl0 boots), 0 copies, no doll, 62% elemental, 129.64% max ammo (rest crap no attack lines or crit lines)

Modernia 10/10/7 lvl 5 OL, 1 copy, blue lvl15 doll, 23.56% elemental, 238.74% max ammo, 21.51% attack

Alice 10/7/10 lvl 5 OL (lvl1 boots), 3 copies, blue lvl15 doll, 15.15% elemental, 230.52% max ammo, 9% attack, 10.36% charge speed

My manual Alice performance is pretty poor, I can only get her to do 254 million more than auto shown here.

Black Scarlet test was conducted to see how much Asuka would buff Alice and Modernia. It resulted in around a 10% increase in damage for Modernia and a 15% increase for Alice.

Used SRosanna (burst lvl10 ofcourse and Liter aswell S1 and burst lvl10) for the damage taken debuff. Since Asuka is bloated with attack percentage, Crown would provide a significant boost to the other units against Asuka. I'm not sure if this actually makes it more balanced in the end.

Of course no shield so she loses that part of kit like this.

[shy kindle]

If we swap Alice for Rei, S.Rosanna may indeed be the better B2 for her

giving up her S2 for her own burst, but at least getting it during Rei's

[rose lance]

meta pve

for solo raid

[small osprey]

And anomaly

[rose lance]

yeah that I haven't tested

👀

https://tenor.com/view/arf-bark-evangelion-eva-neon-genesis-evangelion-gif-24301476

[small osprey]

Indivilia

She's the yapper who you don't want in your life

[rose lance]

still better than silent girl

[small osprey]

Who?

Rei?

[rose lance]

rei

[small osprey]

Oh well shinji's mom

[halcyon jackal]

so asuka gain buffs from individual shield

hmm rei could gives individual than shared like blanc

[small osprey]

[frozen junco]

Well that was fast

[small osprey]

I didn't test her

[frozen junco]

[shy kindle]

A for PvP? Higher than expected

[hazy ocean]

"Budget" alice

[small osprey]

10/10/10 budget

[shy kindle]

I play mobile, I wonder if that makes her better than Alice for me

[small osprey]

Fuck solo raid, the new content is better

[shy kindle]

Yeah gonna have to add SI option to the rating

Well Boss Solo I guess

[thick spear]

Sss? Can it even clear indivilia

[small osprey]

[queen pasture]

fr?

[rocky carbon]

Srsly?

[small osprey]

Nah 7/7/7 but don't expect big numbers as Alice

[rocky carbon]

So if i invest enough she'll be good for boss?

[queen pasture]

nah fake shes S tier at best

facundo likes to troll

[rocky carbon]

😔

[queen pasture]

i cant im saving for cindy

damn it

[rocky carbon]

Pull for "waifu"

Whos cindy

[rocky carbon]

Whos cindy

[queen pasture]

bruh

bro had to say it twice too

cinderalla man

cindy

[sweet garnet]

https://www.prydwen.gg/nikke/guides/guide-asuka
https://nikke.gg/asuka-analysis-and-theorycraft-should-you-pull/

[thick spear]

Hm

[gleaming stratus]

Damn. Such glowing reception for best girl

[frank kernel]

https://tenor.com/view/robertdowneyjr-wide-eye-tony-stark-iron-man-avengers-gif-7766118

[queen pasture]

why...

[queen pasture]

i don't want to pull nor use rei in the team

is she really that needed

[frank kernel]

You know about the Eva hospital scene?

[queen pasture]

it is the one thing that made me stop watching the series completely

[frank kernel]

probably yeah

https://tenor.com/view/shinji-evangelion-devil-may-cry-hair-hand-gif-4271964701858845682

[hollow carbon]

I hear that guys Alice is like near perfect. Might be an unfair comparison

[junior garden]

Half built asuka keeping up with built Alice and mod

[narrow topaz]

you mean sr but newer

[junior garden]

Wind bosses are going to be absolutely destroyed going forward

[small osprey]

Kinda, but anomaly it's different

Bosses are tanky

[narrow topaz]

acting like sr bosses had an end

[simple hawk]

not fair to mod since crown atk buff won't go to her

[junior garden]

Hmm. How would you build the party? Need 3 burst 3 so mod doesn’t have to burst

[junior garden]

If you’re fighting a boss with mod, you don’t want her to burst. That being the case, she’ll never get crown attack buff

[simple hawk]

the point still stand. mod's damage is understated here because she doesn't get crown's s1

[junior garden]

So I should remove crown and see?

Ok let’s see

No crown at all. Alice and asuka alternating bursts

[astral gull]

Divide Alice and Modernia damage by 1.4

[junior garden]

Nvm. Centi doesn’t trigger it

Ahh. Tia’s shield does trigger it

So that means crown should too

[deft cargo]

whatchu mean? to compensate OLs/doll or? (also just added copies i have of the units forgor to write)

[boreal moss]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1091417140076228628/1276163035618345023/image.png?ex=66c886f1&is=66c73571&hm=3d9e679742fa515b78a86126b22838a4e8bb2559063b0a935f39034980e7bafd&

Delicious

[boreal moss]

Yeah, Centi won't trigger it because Centi's shield is on herself but simply takes damage for others

Tia, Ram, and Crown give individual shields to everyone

(Folkwang and Aria's count as individual shields too, iirc)

[narrow topaz]

so she is a must pull for ai right

[junior garden]

Yeah

She is really really good

[boreal moss]

Must-pull in general imo

[narrow topaz]

rei seems 1 hit wonder

idk about marii

[boreal moss]

Rei is a support DPS like X Lud

She'll be important, too

Eva collab simply loaded

[narrow topaz]

on fire raid I can see but otherwise meh

still a good pool

[fiery vale]

is she worth tickets?

[hollow flint]

mari is def good

rei is meg

meh

[small osprey]

Why fire raid, indivilia exists

Let's bonk her

[narrow topaz]

I can't rate the b2 supports at this point

crown is so busted and b2 slot is filled af

[fiery vale]

out of 3 i can only get 1 so asuka gets priority right?

[hollow flint]

thats rhe same thing with b3

[pale hollow]

[narrow topaz]

in indivilia alice asuka is core maybe mod can be included but rei slot doesn't exist imo

[narrow topaz]

b3 relies on their elemental adv so we have alot of slots for it

[small osprey]

Idk I didn't build asuka yet

[boreal moss]

Rei will probably provide more overall damage than Mod

[narrow topaz]

without bursts ?

[boreal moss]

S2 still gives an ATK buff

[torn bay]

her burst is a self buff

S1 gives ele dmg to team

[narrow topaz]

rei not asuka

[boreal moss]

Mod doesn't benefit team at all and won't get Crown S1's ATK buff

[narrow topaz]

wait... tell me who is bursting

rei and alice ?

[boreal moss]

Alice and Asuka

[narrow topaz]

then rei also won't get crown s1

[boreal moss]

Yes

Never said she would

[narrow topaz]

then why does it matter if mod doesn't

[boreal moss]

Because Mod is getting less damage

and all she offers is damage

Rei also offers damage while also buffing team

If your last B3 is going to get gimped, might as well use one that buffs the ones meant to deal the actual damage

[narrow topaz]

is her damage that close enough that 25% caster attack makes the jump

[boreal moss]

Her damage was said to be on-par with X Lud, so should be considering it's Alice and Asuka who'd be receiving that ATK

Although until investment is actually put into her, most people probably have Mod invested enough now that's the better option

I have some union mates still suffering with Pilgrim Attacker gear

so Rei is going to be extremely helpful in that regard

[hollow carbon]

6/5/7 Asuka with 30 ele and 30 attack I’m really bad at Alice manual tho

[real saddle]

Asuka seems really interesting. She got resilience cube from me. Sanis had to make place for her

[astral gull]

RH Crown Asuka Rei Modernia will make an interesting campaign team

[small osprey]

Very low

Like blue cp

[rose lance]

you can swap during raid

so not a problem

[real saddle]

True

[bold whale]

Okay so, i read the pins and i cant see if i should pull her or not

should i?

Only one says "pve meta, specially bossing"

normally i see "skip", "one copy is enough"

normally straightforward answers

used 110 tickets ouch

[sharp bridge]

90 here for 1 copy

Pain

[grave spire]

110 here and no copies, but I got a Snow White dupe, so I think worth?

Also got Clay, which I didn't have before

🤔

[royal raptor]

so

Is Asuka a good standalone unit or just Alice's buff bitch for fire weak raids?

[abstract root]

So pulling for Asuka um worth it or wait for the other units to come out? And how many should I try to get?

[royal raptor]

So the usual "bait tier" collab unit from the looks of it.

Probably not quite bad as the previous since she DOES buff Alice and Mod a fair bit

I'm gonna wait and see tbh

Yeah, 1 copy makes sense

[abstract root]

This is my very first collab im not missing so I dont really know the pull rules for these events

[royal raptor]

Deffo wont go hard on OL or skills

If you're unsure just try to get 1 each

unless more experienced people tell you specifically to skip from performance standpoint

Yep

[abstract root]

So if I can try to 3 star them or not that my other question

[boreal moss]

Asuka has non-macro Alice-tier performance in the DPS department

[royal raptor]

Few things to consider

She most likely will never get a rerun

and 2nd anniversary is around the corner which will without a doubt introduce a new Meta Pilgrim

[boreal moss]

Dupes are never worthwhile from a meta perspective unless you intend to sweat very hard in competitive content

[abstract root]

I see well like I said I have no abnormal units bec I missed all the collabs I was passed when I missed rezero collab

[boreal moss]

Get dupes if you like the characters/want the background lobbies

Otherwise, one and done is always safest

[abstract root]

Ok thanks everyone I have a better grasp on this now

[boreal moss]

And definitely don't go for multiple dupes before the other units come out if you care about those

[abstract root]

I already saved those

[boreal moss]

Pulls > mileage for seasonsals and collabs

Mileage only for emergency and Pilgrims

[abstract root]

I got 250 right now

I got MLB Dorothy today and my third rapunzel and 2nd mod all today pulling for asuka

[sharp bridge]

Well, I got her to 10/10/10, need gear to upgrade and rocks. Probably 4-5 days worth of saving

[abstract root]

I seem to never have enough skill stuff ever does anyone have tips on how to fix that

[gleaming stratus]

I mileaged her, and will mileage all the others and anni pilgrim. I’m done gambling on my broke ass alt

[sharp bridge]

^

[boreal moss]

Overclock coming in a week to help with that

[sharp bridge]

Mostly I’m missing burst 3 stage 3 books tho

Level 7-10

[hazy ocean]

i kinda stopped doing this since valkin stopped playing nikke or smthng idk

he used to do 2 guides

[boreal moss]

but really, aside from doing dailies and events, spending is the only way to increase skill mat income

[hazy ocean]

now he just does one

lazy fk

danieru the goat tho

[small osprey]

Uuui snake is close to leave nikke

Gg guys

and gatrix is playing lol forever

It's joever

[abstract root]

So no real way but spending ugh im not a whale

[gleaming stratus]

Nobody’s forcing you to spend bro chill

Just wait and accumulate mats

[abstract root]

I dont spend for mats anyways just for the package with draw tickets in them and hope I get lucky with a unit I really need for my main team

[hollow flint]

just search nikke gem generator 2024 real

[gleaming stratus]

After all the shafting I get, I can’t imagine spending for gems/pulls. Why pay for extended misery lmao

Granted I’m in the minority that play gacha games but don’t like gambling

[thick spear]

is investment for asuka really high priority

[abstract root]

Arnt gem generators cheating and they never work for me even I do try one out

[sweet garnet]

i got him into path of exile now he's busy

[abstract root]

like i said gem generators dont even work bec of the hey complete this task and ull get your gems and it never fails to even work

[cloud crystal]

If something seems too good to be true, it probably is. It is more likely a virus.

[fleet blaze]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/726739495604715533/1276105750091141172/GOzRa6VWQAAaKTs.jpg?ex=66c85197&is=66c70017&hm=991e55500674b2ab71b4a487a8bf1127652511d04022e476481d528e36d5e23b&

[sweet garnet]

@hazy ocean MLB priority from 1-10?

[small osprey]

kek priority

[meager flume]

What’s the “from 1-10” part for?

Oh, priority score

Imo it’s 0

MLB = vanity, lobby cutscene, max bond (though you get that at 2LB for non-pilgrim in the first place)

The only substantial benefits of MLB or higher are:

• higher synchro device level cap
• cutthroat competing with others in PvE and PvP (idk Asuka tier in PvP)

So if casual, MLB is luxurious waste

If cutthroat competing, then idk it’s up to your environment

If everyone else seriously competing are MLB and yours isn’t, you’re disadvantaged

[astral gull]

8

Ok 7

[shy kindle]

If you're gonna MLB someone Asuka is the unit to do it:

• Attacker so dupes directly increase team damage (unlike support or defenders)
• Collab so will never be able to again / won't gradually increase from off-rateup pulls
• Will be meta for a long time due to being a competitive DPS even without elemental advantage.

[astral gull]

With 10 highest

Still going for 8

But I suggest waiting for Rei

[shy kindle]

So unless we're just setting MLB priority to 0 for everyone without a treasure since dupes are only 2%, I think 8 is about right

[astral gull]

Might be a key campaign unit

[clear talon]

feliz jueves meta

[astral gull]

LBs will help them shine

If u have kek Alice

But 💪 Mod

[clear talon]

💪

[astral gull]

Rei wont make Asuka super strong

More like Rei will make Modernia super strong

Rei can only buff Modernia

Theyre tied together

Well and A2

[shy kindle]

Just take both.

Liter/Summer Rosanna/Asuka/Rei/Modernia

[astral gull]

Scarlet is borderline weak without sanis except for wiping

If mod is good alr

Then asuka and rei will make her stronger

[astral gull]

RH Crown Asuka Rei Mod

For campaign

[shy kindle]

Need to do the math on whether Crown or Summer Rosanna.

Doesn't Crown's buffs dilute while damage received does not?

[near root]

How are these rolls? I thought that these look kind of decent though the charge speed sub does hurt

[small osprey]

Reroll chest for ele dmg

[cold lark]

so like..... has everyone agreed on who's the highest priority pull... on the off chance that someone's so unlucky they go for 200 pulls and get no one?

[hazy ocean]

If Rh is a 10
And maidPriv is a 5
Then asuka is at least a 7-8 I guess

[near root]

alright I'll keep it in mind

[muted surge]

Already ticketed 2 asuka because she seems good

You can't look at someone who's on permanently double ATK and says no

[fading dew]

I'm reading your review on Asuka, I suggest change "Rei" to "Rei Ayanami" or "Rei.A"

we have little Rei you know

[torn bay]

it's Rei

deal with it

[muted surge]

Yeah, but not like this

[fading dew]

Big Rei

[small osprey]

Imagine someone caring about rei

[minor bloom]

Wait wut

Rei is released?

[valid parrot]

she's in the game but you can't get her yet

[torn bay]

Rei is legal vs Rei illegal

[minor bloom]

Both are illegal actually

[formal beacon]

@torn bayhow has your personal asuka testing been so far?

[torn bay]

not much, I had enough rocks to OL her this morning

did it then go to work

8 mins late to work and I'm the first one there

[minor bloom]

You cant

Even as AR she is double the atk

And she has full hit rate during burst

[feral pawn]

I feel like asuka does a better role of support than dps

[formal beacon]

Well for people not using 4.5 Alice she can get closer

One nice thing about asuka is not needing to control her

But it does seem like what she brings to the party is extremely high

[minor bloom]

I think ppl compare her too much to RH or modernia

[formal beacon]

Not just decent damage but great buffs on core bosses

[minor bloom]

She is mot bad

And not bad is still an understatement

She is no RH level

[formal beacon]

I personal like how asuka does great damage and still buffs

[minor bloom]

But she is definitely at meta

[formal beacon]

Like how sanis works with elec

[minor bloom]

Thatd why we are getting free alice

[formal beacon]

Well it's also possible that asuka opens up mod team

Alice is still chained to windscar a lot

With rei that goes even further

[minor bloom]

I think thats the issue here

Unless she is as cracked as RH or SBS she aint it mentality

[fading dew]

Also ShiftUp might throw in more shield bosses

No one ask for Mirror Chamber and here we are

[minor bloom]

I don think asuka should really considered meh despite not reaching Sbs or RH numbers

Her kit is strong enough to make or breaks someone raid run or push through story

Do you know whats meh?

80% of the rest of the SSR

[muted surge]

I don't understand why we're even using RH as benchmark for anything

She's a literal abomination

[grizzled sandal]

why is he using an alice/asska team chart when asska is inflating alice's numbers

[royal raptor]

Because that's Asuka's whole fucking point of existing

As soon as she gets powercrept and can't be placed with Alice she gets demoted to "who cares, fuck I regret investing in her" tier. Which happens to every collab unit.

She's basically a supporting unit for the carry fire dps. Her damage is nothing to write home about, but you just know people will go even more crazy once SR that's specifically designed favor her rolls around.

[boreal moss]

Idk, she's beating my Alice for damage with lower investment

vs AI Indivilia

[royal raptor]

Boomer hands Alice?

[boreal moss]

Not god rolls Alice

[royal raptor]

Fair enough

[boreal moss]

11 ammo

[royal raptor]

AH

Yeah

That hurts

[boreal moss]

Asuka has a much higher damage floor but lower ceiling

which imo makes her significantly important when considering F2P players

[royal raptor]

More wrist friendly

[boreal moss]

That too

[royal raptor]

Calling her bad would be wrong, but she's not really the standalone dps some people trying to make her be

[boreal moss]

She's better than Scarlet

And definitely better than 2B

[rose lance]

https://youtu.be/LSNZjDFlP7k?si=48hvMlCuenoW2LGf

👀

[dusk tusk]

prydwen moment

[small osprey]

Prydwn vs sky

[formal beacon]

I trust Pry over Sky

Why? Because Im not giving someone clout

Honestly the SSS/SS System is fairly weird to begin with.

If Asuka can push Alice / Mod to higher numbers and Alice / Mod is SSS, then she IMO should be near SSS support/damage

I dont agree with MLB any unit overall

MLB what you want

[small osprey]

The only one who can be compared to Alice is Red hood and even her is 85-88% of Alice

[formal beacon]

But, Alice being that high is mostly due to Macro, lets be honest

[small osprey]

Not that true

With crown that changed

[formal beacon]

The other issue is Core vs Non Core Boss

Asuka will fall in non core boss, but stocks go higher in core boss

[small osprey]

In hard deficit

SBS is ok, bossing is her way

[formal beacon]

As it stands, I am honestly more interested in how Asuka/Rei.A/Mod is going to pan out

[small osprey]

Alice and redhood have the stronger mechanic in this game

Yesh xD

Over 35% you don't use liter

When raptures pat your head, sure

Well now with anomaly liter CDR still pissed me off xD

We need a CDR like Dwife with +100% atk

Well backing to thread

Asuka's ehhhh

[formal beacon]

so what you are saying @pine scroll is Asuka needs Favorite Item asap

[small osprey]

Guys ngl

But this is my opinion

Out your dolls in meta anomaly nikkes

Alice, Rh, ein

Sanis

SBS dmg doll is meh

[formal beacon]

no thanks. Waifu > All Others. Really hoping to get SR AR doll

[small osprey]

This is just my opinion

[formal beacon]

they really need to give us more heads up with collabs

[small osprey]

Sure, but this is a meta megathread

Sorry

Nah just dolled whatever you want

But if you wanna stage 7 anomaly you have to work in your dps

[formal beacon]

Sadly they messed up IMO by not rotating rewards or elements

but I do want to test Asuka on the fire weakness

[small osprey]

Asuka dolls sound good to

Yep

So, is no like waste doll

Kek

Or reroll defense

Hell nah

Imo the second easiest one is MC

So go build ein and sanis guys

Yup

Like 90% ele both

Yeah 90%

Sr doll 15

Well stop doomposting asuka