#[Ein] New Unit Megathread
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Lowering CP so campaign's actually a challenge 
SSakura > Ein
wait for birdbringer 2.0
sorry if this has been asked ad nauseam, so pull at least one copy, or skip and wishlist? s.anis be draining my gems rn ngl.
If you aren't hardcore about raids and believe in wishlist, no harm in skipping
Especially if you care about collab units
What does Ib Mei mean
wow look at her power, must pull 
oh i meant better than scarlet not in pvp
I only rmb Ib from an rpg game
tq, i think i'll wishlist since i don't want to wait another year for s.anis.
Discord simply lies to me about "Ib" being taken so i tacked on a random other name
Ib is literally just a yugioh card that i stole the name of
iblee
ib isnt a real account but discord wont let me have it >:C
Too short username la
lol all dps from now on will take scarlet number as the minimum
generally my pfp is of Ib but rn i have a mast pfp until my Mast is maxxed out
That World Chalice girl?
yes
Aight bros
What's the verdict
pull if you down bad for good SR ranks.
145 pull for her, damn
Roll S.Anis ? Got it boss
drunk scarlet still better electric dps for campaign
That was also my thoughts, when saving lol
What about for pvp?
Isnt bad.
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No pins yet?
Like I know sheâs a good B3 but if u already have Laplace with fav doll and Maxwell fully upgraded, she worth getting?
what. those are iron dps that serve different functions than Ein, an electric dps
still testing
I'll start in like 5 mins
Can u figure out feather fire rate for me before I get off work so I don't have to 
Pvp outside burst definitely looked like 3rl timing for first hit
I am on the game
So is scarlet actually midlet fr now
Would be hilarious if Ein can replace scarlet for pvp
And Einâs supposed to be the emo one? 
Wow⊠also, did you all notice? Scarlet no longer blinds people with her burst
When did that happen?
The 4 actually can expire. Iâve had Ein reach 0 feathers up
So Ein is trash for non-burst role, she needs to use burst to reset durations
Scarlet:
10/8/7
3 ammo, 0.5 atk, 1 ele, 4 crit rate
Ein:
10/10/7
1 ammo, 2 cs, 1 atk
both lb0
on electric weak boss
goddamn bro its joever for scarlet
its actually omega over for scarlet cuz shooting range boss has 100 def value

but but pvp ser
where was that screenshot someone shared from sky stream
about off burst frequency of near feather shooting?
0n non elec, ein already outdpsing my scar at least
Who was bursting?
S.Anis didnât burst, then?
Well, good stuff at least
Now Scarletless people can rejoice
no
But how big of a relegation?
Is Ein like 105% of Scarlet?
If itâs a minor difference, we can just skip Ein investments, or try to
Depends on if weâre getting electric-weak raid very soon
im trying to figure out near feathers atm
after which ill tell
Can't bench Scarlet if she's not on your team 
So, safe to get atleast 1 copy for SR right?
Yeah
With Elemental Damage, she should be very effective
ty 
whats her skill level up priority
what's the veredict on Ein?
Top of her class 
an interesting draft and thoughts from sky, just be aware this is just first thoughts from him and SR will the best indicator for a more reliable review + SR boss gimmick with defense
Summer annis missing
there's no way
Should you pull? / Is she good?
Usable in Raids? Yes, get a copy. Want an AoE for PvP? Yes, get a copy. Campaign only player? You can probably skip, but she definitely not bad in campaign tbh, ~S tier unit for campaign..
For endgame content, Ein is definitely worth one copy at the very least. Dupes depend on your competitiveness as well as whether or not you want her MLB lobby screen or not. Otherwise, one copy should suffice.
Why is she good?
Quite literally, Ein is the the actual, the final "Scarlet Killer" (
<- this one, not this one:
). Scarlet used to be one of the BiS unit against Solo Bosses at one point. But as the meta changed, she has dropped in usefulness. The one spot Scarlet had in Bosses was a slot alongside Summer Anis, often seen in Doro Marciana S.Anis Scarlet Priv, or in Doro Biscuit S.Anis Scarlet Priv, and a couple of other S.Anis/Scarlet combos.
This combo can finally be considered broken as Ein can directly compete against and displace Scarlet due to her DPS. Not only does Ein deal more damage, she also doesnt suffer from ptsd (probably from raptures) as she doesnt actively kill herself while fighting, and hence is an automatically better option.
A couple of points that go against Ein are that Scarlet is better in PvP. In PvE, Scarlet is still a better campaign unit. If you have tons of elemental rolls on your Scar already, you can make an argument on how investment heavy Ein will be compared to her since Scarlet is already built.
Another thing is kinda major. While the upcoming boss with its def buffs will definitely get fucked by Ein's true damage, the same case might not be true against other bosses. While Ein is stronger than Scarlet, Scarlet herself was not considered meta currently in the first place in bossing. So while Ein does have a permanent spot in electric raids atm, it comes at the expense of the fact that she may not be used against other elements
Cant even skip Ein because her 4head is too big to walk around
I guess that 145 pull is worth
scarlet went from strongest unit in the game to completely powercrept before i could pull her 
Sheâll possibly be quite good against Mother Whale, at least 
It depends on how true damage works against Mother Whale
I dont remember, can her drones target parts?
I can test that. Currently stuck on 730F which is Mother Whale. I can just burst Ein while enemies are down and see if drones attack the summoning ports
i cant figure out the fire rate tho idk how to lmfao
do i just have to record and go frame by frame like what 
In a 7 second video, I recorded her non-burst set of 4 drones shooting 3 times (total)
In a 9 second video, I recorded her burst set of 6 drones spamming attacks
So⊠feels like it goes from once every 2 seconds to once every half second
I didnât frame by frame, so not exact
for some reason i thought someone mentioned that atk speed varied by amount of drones out. Where did this come from. schitzo behaviour
Excited to use her with Summer Anis to possibly replace Scarlet. Not sure how she does in AOE
Yes
this lil shit is affected by all full burst multipliers
U record then u count frames between hits
Then u convert that to seconds
If u don't have stable 60 use a mg as your timeline

Full Burst also has a per second timer you can use for her 6 feather
@plain zinc do I need ein if I already have Laplace for true damage?
Thatâs another question, whoâs better between Ein and Laplace treasure?
Scarlet is far from powercrept.
She is just not the "kill all" she used to be.
btw
i was just thinking
since ein has a bunch of charge damage buffs
how big is sniper doll's effect on her
So what's the verdict with Ein? She broken?
Apparently better than scarlet if built just right?
has anyone theory crafted what how she'll pair with Favorite Item Frima? That's an additional 78% buff to true damage
Itâs not clear how much better atm, but yeah
If it was a choice between Ein and Scarlet for killing a Water boss, one team only, then Ein potentially forces Scarlet out⊠or youâd just bring both. Ein + S.Anis + Scarlet.
But heals where
Crown shouldâve been given a team heal
(Iâm kidding⊠maybe)

dont get hit
Maybe she can.. with a favorite item in the very far, far away future
Does Ein give Clay a role in a true damage team? Or a cursed Biscuit&Clay S.Anis&Ein team?
Or does Clay remain garbage 
I thought Clay was just fundamentally bad
It wasnât a situation of, âoh she is mediocre but almost made it to being decent or goodâ
Just⊠âeveryone run from herâ as soon as her banner appeared
Skill investment:
1/1/1 -> 4/4/4 -> 7/7/7 -> 10/10/10
Starting -> Minimum -> Recommended -> High
Overload Investment:
4 Ă Elemental
4 Ă ATK
1-2 Ă Ammo
Acceptable: CS, Crit
in my opinion, never use clay
there are better options
imo like, use another dps over clay
it is 100% better
y no ammo
Bay was at least useful in some specific cases in PvP, but Clay⊠sheâs more for that new commander who had the misfortune to pull her instead of even Centi in their first week of play
....crystal chamber, maybe?
u ideally run her with teams that have reload speed imo
fair
ShiftUp seeding their roster with traps, like Crow
never use ade either
yep
4ele 4atk 2ammo 2cs sounds nice
Wow even for stuff like crystal chamber's ATK debuff? Just always choose the other option I guess

there are better options
more comfortable options even
Ade is usable, playable, viable, and is utterly eaten alive by other options for the slot. Sheâs for the Waifu-centric commanders rather than performance-centric
Sometimes a Solo Raid will show up that begs you to use Cocoa, Ade, Winter Mica, etc, but thatâs about it
its just that cleanse has no real use in nikke
xMica is used due to the fact that there are not enuf good b1s
but also cuz she provides like 70 moer buffs
Does ein replace maxwell/laplace in missilis tower?
Imo no
Ein while very cool doesnât have piercing effect
only on elec weak boss
But, you can sidegrade to Ein and replace either Maxwell or Laplace if the other one you kept is pretty strong. You will need at least 1 strong piercer, minimum. 2 is better.
Which to me means might as well just keep both Maxwell and Laplace
But yeah if there is a Water boss, Ein can come in and shine
Mother Whale is Water (electric-weak)⊠and you will have to fight her in Tower 

Nevermind trying to use Sniper Rifle and Rocket Launcher against Mother Whale minions 
Not even in electric weak campaign?
She should be good. Still no contest compared to Modernia and Red Hood
If you build her big for raiding reasons, then take her for a spin in an Electric-weak campaign, she should do really well, I believe, unless facing hit count stuff
But she suffers still, no piercing. But there isnât a piercing Electric Nikke anyway?
tbh just did some look into her. Ein does pretty good damage I was surprised.
I like the Gunbit concept; visually its really impressive
@plain zinc Same Cube as everyone else? or is Charge Speed worth
honestly
people overrate cubes
put resil in reload speed team
put bastion in non reload speed team
it is ALWAYS this
never changes
Really wonder what cube levels will do and if they will unlock 3rd slot
I just follow the cube guide
but thats not a topic for another month or so

Hey now, sometimes you put Vigor on your defender or healer too

Treasure Cube Slot, like the dolls, clearly
Nuh uh. My mast cant hit shit without her cube
Pin says get one copy but is she worth using gold tickets on?
Or just wishlist and pray?
lol no
Wishlist and pray is the move
Gold ticket now is too short term benefits, not worth
đ
Is it better to summon for ein or use my gold tickets
I have 400 gold tickets rn and i have 60k gems rn
read the messages directly above yours
O dang i aint even realise
Wishlist
You use your gems but it depends on your goal
Do NOT use gold tickets
have u considered how cute she is tho
She cute tho
Not rly. She can scale better.
Has anyone tried her out in Arena?
ok note to self: Don't use Ein against Diesel
bad idea

Got schooled? 
Almost(coz p5 and p4 died early)
Good thing Diesel was the only one left, it was a 3v1 in my favor
Howâs Ein in PvP?
I can't really test properly atm
, especially on Rookie(got diffed by 100k++ CP). But I can see some potential in her
Imma try and find someone with Noise in their comp
Or something tanky
The drones should be able to shred them

ded
CP diff

Pretty hard to skip someone that's called "the scarlet killer" lol. I'll try to do some rolls for her
well, ein is good
and we have had
17 units at least
that were called scar killers
but she is the final final nail in the coffin
you should be surprised if u see her at the top now
cuz shes just outdpsed by everyone
unless its an electric weak raid
Pretty sad to hear as someone with an lb2 scarlet 
try core 2
the fuck
or even worse my core 3 harran whoâs been killed by scarlet since the beginning
Headpattable

Is she worth pulling or is this a skip?
I see
I already have RH AND Scarlet so adding her just for solo raids could be usefull
Not rn tho
So It's an Easy skip
To the wishlists
harran treasure is finalest scarlet killer
My core 2 Harran quivers in anticipation
Lemme run Rosco & Treasure Harran & Summer Sakura for sustain damage memes
My SR15 core 9 scarlet crying reading the verdict 
Any cube is fine, right?
If their numbers weren't garbage Onslaught or Adjutant would be viable.
Hit rate is useless for a sniper so assault is worthless.
As always, resilience or bastion. Whichever is free/higher level.
I wonder if the drones are enough to make Quantum be a better burst gen buff than adjutant 
For PVP
for ein?
is charge up speed ok too
Charge speed cube stats are pretty garbage, so even though Ein wants charge speed not sure the cube is viable outside PvP
And that's because PvP is less about damage than who can fill their burst bar faster
Ein: Shit OLs, skill 7/7/7, auto shooting range, elemental is not weakness. Damn
You need more copies of Alice 
alice is mlb
Mine is core 7...
lol wat
MLB is 3*
is that macaroni alice or nah?
Mhm
Mcegan69 from yt is still macroing
Scar or Ein?
Is this full auto?
Ein is so fast in pvp lol
yes
Guarantee full burst in 3-4 sec
Oh okay
he can probably play as good as he does rn without macro tbh
Because of the feathers?
he is actually really good
Maybe that's why
Finally i can take jackal somewhere off the stall comp
Yea I see his aim is almost seamless
macro saves him from both possible arthiritis and carpal tunnel 
Ppl mostly pull her for raids or pvp
It's up to you considering collab and 2nd anniv is near
I really didnât expect her to be good in pvp honestly
I'd beg to differ
Man what if they cook again with Zweiđż
Absolutely bonker, she wrecked down scarnuke
dumpster fire 
Forgot to record smh, maybe tmr
Yeah
I really hope zwei is a free skip
2nd anniversary when and will there be new op pilgrimđ
I had to pull on 3 banners
One copy then i'll be gone
One copy can potentially cost more than 100
If that happens i'll have 600 gold tix
Le me skipped jk and bunnies
brave
Had to cope with Mast 2B for raids
Imagine Zwei having synergy with Ein

ThatâsâŠ. What we thought about bay and clay
Now idk if we should use treasure exia or frima with Ein
I like how the game gave me Clay along with Ein, it seems it was trying to tell me to do a True dmg comp with Clay

Makes no sense clay is 40s⊠considering she is also electric, could have been a decent unit
Man, if Clay was 20 secs
Seems like it
I don't like Ein's sniper sounds why does it sound like an airsoft gun 
Silenced?
isn't scarlet still top tier in pvp?
lol nope
She's topping your Red Hood then 
Only Pilgrim she tops is Scarlet in PvE
Not at anis level. How many pulls do you have? Also depends on how competitive you want in raids ig
bro i still need decent damage dealers for special interception AHAHAHA
im fairly new and i got 100 pulls sitting in the bank
Might not be a good idea then. She isnât that game changing. How much can you do in SI?
on train about 3-4 before getting rekt most times
gravedigger 6-7 lacking the dps to rush it
rest i can full clear just outsustaining with heal
Sounds about right
800 pulls deep no pilgrims still haha so my luck pre sad
was hoping ein could at least match redhood maybe? đ
would help for story mode to
No standard Nikke is going to match Red Hood

When she first came out, she was a solid jack-of-all-trades, but then they buffed her way too much 
but some match like snow white and stuff right?
Yeah, other Pilgrims can be matched 
surely redhood gets power crept eventually
By other Pilgrims 

yes she matched basic lappalce
super good mhm
What are the dps you use on the other three SI bosses?
imo buff was needed they just overdid it
Ah yes, Laplace can perform a B1 buff
The best B1 buff in the game
so for graves i try
full shotgun comp
let me get my game up
forget there names ahaha
if they buffed half as much as they did
it was good enough
they went all in
Yup
I remember the math
as a result, seeing standard Nikkes that match Red Hood probably won't happen for a long time
we said a number they doubled it
Her current burst level 1 is higher than the original level 10 
Ein is mid-Pilgrim tier since she matches/edges out on Scarlet
Better than Harran/Isabel, around Scarlet/SW (poor conditions), below the rest
would they mean shes worth trying for tho
They donât rerun doro so donât expect too much
If you care about collabs, not worth
If you're not concerned about collabs, no harm in rolling a few times
ok games up
She's a good unit
Still requires pretty heavy investment tho, so don't expect her to work miracles without dumping skills mats/gear exp into her
this would be my usual gravedigger team but i just pulled SANIS this morning so i can probz fit her in somewhere
Alice a bit stronger dps wise, but yeah Redhood b1 too valuable especially in campaign
Donât pair her with noir and liter tho. Anis dps comes from her last bullet gimmick. Liter and noir add bullets
Sorry, meant future standard Nikkes
and this is the my train comp, but train is insanely hard,
Alice is a balance error that Shift Up was too late to fix 
SU biggest mistake
And Red Hood wins vs human hands Alice unless Alice has elemental advantage in my case 
Hidden pilgrim 
i did pull tove, but shes still uninvested 1-1-1, ill work on her for B1
noir can be replaced with privoty
Tove also has max ammo gimmicks and doesn't want be with S Anis usually 
shit i have no b1's then ahaah
tove's my only shotgun buffer
She's the only one 

Liter's max ammo buff is pretty small, so it shouldn't be terribly problematic
ok yeah lets stop
Ein doesn't have that problem tho 
my main topic was tryna figure out to pull ein as well ahaha
but i do care about the collabs if their someone i want đ„Č
Up to you then. If you f2p then I might try 20 to at most 30 pulls. Wishlist her later if you canât get her
might have to wishlist save and hope Sanis carrys me enough ahaha
Again she isnât game breaking. Even back in the day I need a built scarlet and modernia + biscuit & noah comp to clear train +
hoping to hit a modernia on the collab or something when i pull next ahaha
i want to start doing pilgrim tower đ„Č
You will get there eventually 
We all start with pilgrim tower being the lowest. Now a lot of people have pilgrim tower being the highest
mines at 1 cause i don't have pilgrims still XD
and can't get the pilgrim molds to try for 1 đ„Č
Ok so after looking at the history for 10 minutes,
I guess itâs better to skip this time đ and just put her on wish list in the future so I can catch a break and level up other guys
i did
what's yours
LOL
Scarlet 0/3, full OL +5/+5/+5/+0, 10/4/7 vs Ein 0/3, 3 OL +0/+0/+0, 1 T9M +0, 4/4/6

vs UR Alteisen
she's literally scarlet without self hurting
Scarlet is on 9/9/9 full OL with a high level cube
Also don't mind Rem's DPS decreasing
Nikke FPS goes down the more I play cuz laptop has bad temps 
For some reason this makes me feel like OLs barely helped, I guess they had weak effects?
Is that auto Ein or quickfire?
Also, between CDR and being buffed by Frima, I take it that the buffs are just superior for Ein
So perhaps within 1-2 months, we will see only Frima teams for Ein for the ones wanting to maximize Ein
Unfortunately, Solo Raid Challenge is in 8-9 days, likely too late if someone wants to start building Frima phases 2 and 3 today
It might also be too late for me to work on exia, since I never touched her at all
I'm now close to getting the amount for the treasure
Auto on neutral weakness, OLs aren't optimized
is... Ein supposed to have unlimited ammo during bursts??????
her ammo count wasnt going down
SAnis + Crown
It stays at 3. Its just weird
yeah, and you are prob right. its just weird it doesnt decrease
That happens with every SR and RL with excess reload speed
No it reloads for you the one frame which you don't shoot
interesting. thanks
never really use RL/SR on Sanis comp so never noticed that interaction before.
blud missed out on biscuit+ass days
why does a schoolgirl have pilgrim rates
well sheâs after the summer event and before a collab
would be a good timing to save
itâs probably still sanis but yea sheâs great
Collab will be mid tho, don't need to save much 
Unless one likes the characters and must simp 
or it's Stellar Blade collab and they make them OP cuz they could actually rerun it 
They don't even rerun Skin, so I don't think they will rerun a Collab even if it's their own IP 
The plan to rerun skins. We just don't know when 
inb4 the "Rerun pack" in shop, $100 for 1 previous skin, $200 for 1 previous Gacha skin 
don't worry they'll rerun skins whenever champion's arena is finally released 
they just have to stop delaying it
syuen became f2p?
Exia, not Frima?
Is Frima worse than Exia for Ein? 
I think I have no choice but to do the same as well. At least, for my priorities and interests
I still have Laplace at 4/4/4 T9Ms
And, if I have to choose having a 2nd invested B3 for Missilis Tower
Between Laplace treasure and EinâŠ
I think Ein actually offers more because Red Hood is firmly the queen of Iron element damage
Along with Snow White, Maxwell, filling it out
While, thereâs no actual queen of Electric element damage, it was S.Anis but Ein is now turning her into a true support. Not to mention, S.Anis is still a shotgun user
That, and Iâm kind of still finding the feather drones to be very cool
Iâll get to push Missilis Tower with Ein taking the dps lead and Maxwell can actually buff her too. Whatâs with Missilis and snipers lol
Speaking of, did someone say Einâs burst instant damage includes being buffed by Full Burst?
Does that mean Maxwellâs buffs entering full burst, apply to Ein first before Einâs AoE deals damage?
I'm not resetting her cuz she's as strong as Ein is 
She outdamages Scarlet vs UR Alteisen, which is Electric weak 
dem
more and more bald heads are doing like 10/10/9 ein
how tf can they dry me so fucking hard about skill chips with non limited
Overclock should ease that urge for more mats a little
Always the same issue and pattern, new unit, no skills to increase it and enjoy the unit => go to shop or leave it at 4/4/4 hoard and wait for a better unit to invest
Team building is fun
Well, at least Ein has something currently pretty unique with the feathr drones
I have my doubts that ShiftUp will make another true damage heavy B3, and even if they did, thereâs room for 2 more such B3s before Ein gets forced out of that team
So I have my bet that Ein will remain relevant for at least a year
i think ein would be fine cause itâll just eventually be like sg team
S.Sakura, would also be relevant too, sure
keep one b3 and rotate the dps based on ele
So my main concern atm is Exia vs Frima for Ein
privm (copium treasure) drake etc
I was going to build up Frima but then saw here that nobodyâs thinking of Frima + Ein, just Exia + Ein
ig it depends on what kind of comp you want to run
if you want FS still then frima
if you want full blown electric team exia
but frima is more flexible
so
Ein's feathers (or lack thereof) finally clued me in that the game downgraded me to medium quality on my phone (complete with 30fps lock)
Stats not pull rate
Anyone can do a quick test for invested Ein and treasure laplace
curious which unit can push me far into missiles tower
Ein's burst seem more fun i'm leaning more toward her
already have maxwell built
I do see couple of laplace and ein running together instead of mw
Both together should be better than using maxwell
this is fucking hilarious
Ein without ol?
she got one lv0 OL with trash lines
scarlet has 4 lv5 OLs
and total dmg is higher with priv as expected
What about Ein level skills here
I went ahead and max invested Ein aside from breakthroughs. 15 rocks, got 65% elemental damage. No atk% but thatâs okay
I also went ahead and got Frima favorite item
Will see how it works out in Solo Raid, but I like the idea of a dedicated true damage team regardless
Idk if any good in PvP either but not that picky about PvP
I think Iâll give that team Crown despite what others are saying here
Just so thereâs a Frima + Crown + Ein trio
Idk if I want Laplace after all but if I do get her heavily invested, Iâll put Laplace in that team too
But I think I might need 2 slots to be flex
Itâs not so much efficiency but fascination with the theme of true damage hehe
So itâs pretty risky because I might feel a bit pissed off if in the end it turns into a mediocre team
GG you will do some good damage with her for SR boss
I did consider some mitigating factors
1 is, that evil Mirror Container may well show up in coop
2 is, that evil Mirror Container will come back in towers
Waiting to see how she will perform in this raid
I wish Frima was Missilis though lol
Also the boss can come back during SI hard mode even they only talked about indivillia and crystal chamber
so you gonna run frima/dolla(shelm?)/ein/x/x?
Eh for that itâs better to invest after realizing itâs in Anomaly Intercept
Tbh thatâs also true about the rest of the possibilities
If it works, could be Frima, Crown, Ein, Laplace, Dolla/Maxwell/Flex.
I could stick Dolla in B2 if itâll work best for overall raid damage, though
Anyways, weâre at least a week before finding out
no cdr is pain, but throw the team into shooting range first
Still waiting a RL doll for laplace but I also need them for PVP units, I won't treasured her soon
I still need more Frima mats but Iâm 24 off atm, so 8 days. Plus any from Solo Raid
Idk if itâs my stuff but shooting range with counter element, Dolla > Maxwell, CDR won
That and maybe Dolla was doing something else
So I guess thatâs my team
Scored a SR sniper doll from the mileage box. I'm tempted to give it to Ein
That reminds me.. if I do that and max it, Ein's going to pop even more against water bosses... hmmm
I might do that and ignore Exia

But in such a case, it would be Red Hood that wins this kind of consideration
23 seconds in of Harmony Cubes can be found in certain Lost Sectors, fight finally loads 
I've already given Hood an SR. I should probably do the responsible thing and give this SR to Alice.
But I'm lowkey tired of looking at Alice.
Taunt almost screwed over Ein there
But a win, and it's an offense team option that lets you send in multiple strong B3s spread across teams
Not bad
No Jackal feeding fears either
Though the drones might do that, a bit, actually đ
The A54 is a mid ranged phone, but it's good enough for most games(except Wuwa) 
Ein has been really helpful for my Missilis Tower climbing. I swapped Maxwell out for her and stages have been a bit more comfy.
comfier*
Same here
She just shreds the big shield raptures
and the tanky ones with the one shot lasers
Not to mention she'll be able to help against certain bosses later. Mother Whale 
It's still a bad matchup despite the counter element because you want MGs, but she can possibly contribute one AoE clear to one of the early minion waves
Which is better than, frankly, Maxwell, Laplace, trying to do this
For the clear I did, I had to endure through the minion waves as much as possible and survive the whale flyover
I did not clear them, a lot of them were still alive and died to the flyover 
Then Tia ate the elite spawn wave to let the team carry on to victory 
I wonder if Zwei would buff Ein further
On a business standpoint, I think they will



Crown/Liter/Scarlet/Ein/S.Anis = gud?
Good for what?

I don't like that team
me neither but saw someone do it
I prefer, doro crown Ein sanis priv
I don't have Scarlet but I went with Privaty as the 5th Nikke for that team
And Doro instead of Liter

That team s.anis is buffer i think
Im dorolessđđ
Rip
Ideally you don't want three B3 DPS units with Crown
She's designed to work with either a healer for continued S2 procs or an additional buffer
What doro even do?
oh
ohh
Crown's S1 only provides offensive buffs to the actively bursting Nikkes, so a third off-burst B3 would never receive her ATK buffs
and the explosion deals the total damage the mark received, the damage cap scales with Doro's atk
So using Naga/Rapunzel/B Alice for heals to keep S2 activated or Privaty for additional ATK buff/infinite ammo is ideal
i missed out
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Naga?
O yeah she heals
Mhm
If you care about getting collab units and are not a whale, save
If you care about high ranks in solo raid and don't care much about collabs, pull
If you're a whale, 
I pulled coz I'm Scarletless, I've already accepted that she ain't coming any time soon so I had to take a chance on Ein

Ah yeah, those without Scarlet have a bit more pressure to pull
And it turned out good for my account
Although if someone doesn't have S Anis/S Helm, those two are definitely the priority

I got instant Core 1 yesterday

So if already have scarlet then no need to pull?
She's better than Scarlet, but they fill the same general role in PvE for the most part
so you can definitely survive without Ein if you have Scarlet; your results for this coming solo raid just may be a bit lower
B-better than scarlet?
H-how come..
Imma delay my campaign progress for now, I need Ein to be at full OL by the time I get to the final boss
Gonna see how can she fare against it
Ein doesn't hurt herself, and a large portion of her damage is true damage, which provides around +24% DPS
(Tho I'm probably gonna walk in on blue CP)
that makes me wanna pull for her
but
But
Ein's also much less reliant on OL lines
im broke asf
Scarlet without OLs suffers from low magazine capacity and extremely long reload
Oh...right
So whats the ideal team comp
That we don't know yet
Won't know until Solo Raid starts
New boss has some really complicated mechanics

watch me get ein in 1 pull with 900 gems
Now that I think about it, I might need her for this solo raid
I spent way too much to get Ein, but I'm also 100+ on regular recruit pulls without an SSR so it was a "pick your poison" decision.
May Zwei will be B1 and save me from having to invest in Frima Treasure
I just got FI Frima so no 
I just want a B2 CDR + True Damage Buffer now.
Also Zwei looks more like B3 sadly...
Known feathers spec from datamine
S1: Summon 4 feathers (1, 2, 3, 4)
Burst: Summon 6 feathers (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6)
- 4 from S1 + 2 from burst
- Already summoned feathers from S1 have their duration and attack cooldown reduced after burst
Duration of each feathers
Feather 1: unlimited
Feather 2: 38 secs
Feather 3: 32 secs
Feather 4: 26 secs
Feather 5: 10 secs
Feather 6: 10 secs
Attack interval
- Basically attacks every 8 secs
- Each existed feather reduces attack intervals by 16% and the reduction seems multiplicative calculated (not 100% correct)
Idk if a low spender like me who doesn't have mats for her is still good to invest in her
I guess is time to massacre whale the whole books in cash shop xD
And now the line between whales and low spenders is big
Euro*

you'll always be my top 1

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I've nearly quit the game twice and lost months of books, so I can't even pretend to be competitive.
Damn auto guys in kraken and digger was auto 3%

And stormbringer raid with 4b I was top 100
But is ok, Imma concentrate my investments in SG team
I like their mechanics
Ein is at the end...another scarlet
And tbh even if I like raids Im expecting invest in powercreep not in 1-1 units
And if 1-1 is the way... At least 1-1 RH

theoretically lappy is almost 1-1 Rh kek
Sg is brainless run yeah
Use a vpn bro. Saves so much money in the long run.
I just use tunnelbear
Itâs free
Nah I'm only buying skins buddy
not Naga one, I love Naga but the heck is that dress
I know. But 23eur compared to 20$ which comes down to 18.sth eur does feel nicer on the wallet
buying usd is cheaper in game
scarlet never want to come home after 5000 pulls
so i declare......................... she sucks
It's ok
My uncle works at ShiftUp and he told me Scarlet treasure is next
I verified with my uncle just now
He told he's pretty sure that's what he overheard
(he works as a janitor there)
scarlet is still needed in pvp tho
She is not pilgrim level tho
SAnis is the real pilgrim level
Also not sure if they realize a hidden problem for campaign with Ein
There are some underdoggable stages where you need to keep a buffer Rapture alive to buy time. Einâs feathers doesnât hold back 
I wonder if itâll get killed, or not
Why is this thread still alive
I thought everything was done
Itâs not over until Queen Ein takes over everything
She's basically just a s.sakura
I like the mothership feeling though
first aircraft carrier nikke
is she sss tier campaign clearning god tank tho

Is reload cube the better one to equip on her?
just use the best one you have available. Resil is the default option as it is the most universal one
Noted đ
whatchu talking about? the defense cube is obviously the best meta breaking one
it fits so well, you can't even feel the difference
Def cube is for pvp
The pvp chads know
The Dr one at least but def cube actually. Also potentially changes targeting stuff
idk if they use it tho
btw are charge damage lines good for ein?
ch spd and ammo are better than ch dmg for sure
Ein really satisfying to play (not really playing it, but the drone satisfying to see), that 145 pull is not wasted
this jk is goat in missiles tower too
So, if both my scarlet and ein have lvl5 t9m gear, and i have 4 rocks to OL their whole set, which one would u say is more worth now? Cuz i got scarlet quite late so i never really had time to invest into her and idk if it would be better to just save that OL set for finally going into SW or just seeing if 2nd anni pilgrim will be powercrept meta attacker
do you have anything better than Scarlet for campign?
and do you care about pvp
Yeah i got everyone already, scarlet was just like the 2nd or 3rd to last pilgrim i got out of them all lol (im not new player for clarification)
I didnt really care about pvp due to being underlevwled for a long time but im starting to want to get into it cuz im finally near the same lvl as the opponents
scarlet if you care about pvp, ein if you care about raids
Itâs that simple I think 
Well i like raids significantly more so that sounds about as simple of a decision as you could bring to light haha
Unless i should be prioritizing any other units to OL in particular. I just did S.anis and doro in the past 2 weeks
Ein is good for defense tower
Crystal Armor is a very confusing boss. He shows up in Ex stage, weak to electric
I beat it with Ein and S.Anis
Crown, Ein, S.Anis, Naga, Liter
The QTE he puts up is very hard to kill without using full burst
And otherwise he takes 1 damage often, and I have no clue how to stop or prevent it, or what triggers it
Boss information claims he summons gloves which turn invincible after 1 hit
Just like the Slippers from Mirror Container
And itâs these gloves that buffs his DEF high
Except⊠I never saw any gloves?
Much less try to hit them, or even see Immune indicators

If anyone has an idea about that fight, lmk, Iâm curious.
Ultimately I won simply by full bursting his QTE and otherwise waiting for it
Took a few full bursts
on kr sheet, it says special QTE is killable by special attacks
I assume this means Alice burst, RH burst, SW burst, Max burst, etc.
special attacks.
Checking Crystal Armor out now
Huh so Full Burst was truly the only way
Thereâs someone trying Naga burst on Mirror Container now
It was reported earlier that it works to break the final 30 seconds QTE
Naga has no special attack
But itâs inconsistent and he canât figure out why
It was working at first for a few runs
Then now it doesnât work at all
What about S.Anis?
And anything that can be targeted (range).
Does it work? Consistently?
If it does, then it's anything that is not normal attack but skill damage.
Hmm could it be it was the team assisting and someone with special skill was breaking it, fooling me?
CheckingâŠ
Crystal Armor's QTE can be broken by normal attacks 
I just shredded it with Crown
No full burst
Last 30s?
Crown, Ein, S.Anis, Naga, Liter
It's probably SAnis or Ein.
X Lud also broke Crystal Armor's QTE alone
Last 30s?
The special QTE only happens in the last 30s.
Ohh
And the QTE is immune to anything but "special" attacks.
Thatâs in reference to Mirror Container, specifically. Basically, if you pass its phase 2, Mirror Container will bust out a full summon of 10 Slippers (phase 1 + phase 2) at once, put up a thick barrier, then start a team-annihilating QTE.
So far, the guy couldnât hit the QTE - Immune always. Red Hood, Naga, etc.
???
Also weaker players.
Weâre speaking of two different bosses hehe
And Hard Mode EX bosses are still ez
Mirror Container is one topic, Crystal Armor another
No CP penalty
Red Hood burst cannot hit QTE?
is there any stage other than 32-33 that I can use to test?
I figured out Full Burst breaks its QTEs, but the skill descriptions failed me
It talks about summoning gloves which has the take only 1 hit
And that high DEF is provided by the gloves, onto boss
Did u read kr sheet?
Nope lol but you mentioned, that it says Special Attacks
This one is the final QTE.
And that does jibe with my discovery that I had to full burst to break it
Oh?
Weâre mixing bosses again 
Oh did I
oh its crystal armor
I'm not getting that problem
wait what
are we talking about mirror container or crystal armor

I thought we were discussing Mirror Container
and suddenly Kigitsune came in with Crystal Armor or am I wrong
Juratus started Crystal Armor conversation
oh
Well, boredom
But letâs reset this here 
I repeat, Mirror Container 
Because, you know, want to stop the enemyâs special attack? Break the QTEâŠ
Gotcha
hmm idk idc
Ty!
maybeure right QTE
I believe these are it btw
Broke one (left side on screenshot) and a DEF buff disappeared
but they also write cancelations for other skills
where do u fight this boss
EX Boss closest to Ch 32 boss
I never do EX bosses, so I always have them available 
Now I can stop. We solved the mystery
The answer?
Naga ATK sucked. 
As for why she confusingly could break the QTE here and there?
It was because Crownâs shield was still on Naga on those occasions, lasting 15 seconds, just long enough to let Naga apply the bigger ATK buff on team and herself in her burst. This elevated Naga from 1 dmg hits on QTE to something able to break the QTE.
No hit count shields or any nonsense
If the same thing is carried over to Solo Raid, thatâs not going to be fun
Because boss gets back the 360% def up for that final 30 seconds part
So idk if Ein will have trouble here or not
But probably will be fine if team full bursts
Pretty much
hmmmmmm Ein is the best
missilis tower 300 (nihilister)
Ein actually doing quite a bit of work in hard campaign for me
(currently electric weak chapter)
Favorite Item Frima is presumably the better choice, but is it now worth building Clay for Ein?
I had to ask, since she does buff true damage.
Sorry Clay, your're staying at level 1 forever.
We have such strong B2s already that new characters need to either be best in a niche or otherwise just really solid to even have a chance
A 40s B2 needs a Biscuit-tier burst a minimum
I liked Ein so much that I'm actually going to invest for 7/7/7 and full OL
No problemo. Red Hood B1 + B3 burst can be kept till last 30s for this.
Tia -> RH -> Naga -> RH
Is it the case that Nagaâs double atk buff is stronger than Crownâs atk dmg buffs against enemies with extreme DEF?
Crown:
64.51% of casterâs attack
20.99% of attack damage
36.24% of attack damage
Naga:
16.18% of casterâs attack
31.02% of casterâs attack
WhatâŠ
Oh, these are if both were level 10 skills. The guy mustâve had poor Crown S1?
Crown S1 is not tied to her Burst Skill
Nvm my question, I figured it out. Crownâs S1 only needs team to go into Full Burst
Indeed
Such ATK stacking đ
In Solo Raid u dont run her with Naga
Instead Tia -> RH -> Naga -> RH
Need to hold till last 30s.
How to position this for auto?
Cannot la
RH burst rots is not auto friendly
U also dont want to auto for Mirror Container
Oh, can't 1 hand 
What is that?
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