#[Ein] New Unit Megathread

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woeful lark
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Nah, plenty of times recently we've forgone healers

wicked marsh
woeful lark
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Lowering CP so campaign's actually a challenge kek

rare vine
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SSakura > Ein

urban river
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wait for birdbringer 2.0

blissful moon
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sorry if this has been asked ad nauseam, so pull at least one copy, or skip and wishlist? s.anis be draining my gems rn ngl.

woeful lark
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If you aren't hardcore about raids and believe in wishlist, no harm in skipping

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Especially if you care about collab units

rare vine
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What does Ib Mei mean

sly drum
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wow look at her power, must pull clueless

limpid crest
rare vine
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I only rmb Ib from an rpg game

limpid crest
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i was not clear

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:P

rare vine
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I mean

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What does ur name mean

limpid crest
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oh

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idfk what the Mei part means

blissful moon
woeful lark
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Yeah, S Anis is priority

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for sure

limpid crest
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Discord simply lies to me about "Ib" being taken so i tacked on a random other name

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Ib is literally just a yugioh card that i stole the name of

limpid crest
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ib isnt a real account but discord wont let me have it >:C

rare vine
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Too short username la

prisma bridge
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lol all dps from now on will take scarlet number as the minimum

limpid crest
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generally my pfp is of Ib but rn i have a mast pfp until my Mast is maxxed out

limpid crest
proper yacht
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Aight bros
What's the verdict

limpid crest
waxen blaze
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145 pull for her, damn

proper yacht
limpid crest
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yes

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thats also a correct verdict

neat island
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drunk scarlet still better electric dps for campaign

dawn sphinx
lean relic
limpid crest
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Isnt bad.

lean relic
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đŸ€”

limpid crest
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better than 2b so

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

urban river
heavy sparrow
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No pins yet?

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Like I know she’s a good B3 but if u already have Laplace with fav doll and Maxwell fully upgraded, she worth getting?

limpid crest
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what. those are iron dps that serve different functions than Ein, an electric dps

prisma bridge
plain zinc
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I'll start in like 5 mins

oak violet
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Pvp outside burst definitely looked like 3rl timing for first hit

tight verge
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He lied

plain zinc
tight verge
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Nuh uh

wise haven
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So is scarlet actually midlet fr now

heavy sparrow
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Would be hilarious if Ein can replace scarlet for pvp

lusty pine
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And Ein’s supposed to be the emo one? KEKS

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Wow
 also, did you all notice? Scarlet no longer blinds people with her burst poggies When did that happen?

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The 4 actually can expire. I’ve had Ein reach 0 feathers up

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So Ein is trash for non-burst role, she needs to use burst to reset durations

plain zinc
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Scarlet:
10/8/7
3 ammo, 0.5 atk, 1 ele, 4 crit rate

Ein:
10/10/7
1 ammo, 2 cs, 1 atk

both lb0

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on electric weak boss

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goddamn bro its joever for scarlet

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its actually omega over for scarlet cuz shooting range boss has 100 def value

celest elk
plain zinc
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while SR will give Ein an immense buff

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extra 20% atk

celest elk
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but but pvp ser

plain zinc
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so scarlet is actualyl

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relegated now

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time for syp

fallow stirrup
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sky is still live bruh

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i guess Ein is cooking

plain zinc
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where was that screenshot someone shared from sky stream

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about off burst frequency of near feather shooting?

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0n non elec, ein already outdpsing my scar at least

lusty pine
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S.Anis didn’t burst, then?

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Well, good stuff at least

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Now Scarletless people can rejoice

plain zinc
lusty pine
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Is Ein like 105% of Scarlet?

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If it’s a minor difference, we can just skip Ein investments, or try to

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Depends on if we’re getting electric-weak raid very soon

plain zinc
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after which ill tell

tranquil grove
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Can't bench Scarlet if she's not on your team ScarletDrunk

lyric vault
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So, safe to get atleast 1 copy for SR right?

lusty pine
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With Elemental Damage, she should be very effective

lyric vault
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ty BlancNod

fallow stirrup
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whats her skill level up priority

solemn fjord
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what's the veredict on Ein?

lusty pine
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Top of her class KEKS

dawn sphinx
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an interesting draft and thoughts from sky, just be aware this is just first thoughts from him and SR will the best indicator for a more reliable review + SR boss gimmick with defense

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Summer annis missing

prisma bridge
plain zinc
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Should you pull? / Is she good?

Usable in Raids? Yes, get a copy. Want an AoE for PvP? Yes, get a copy. Campaign only player? You can probably skip, but she definitely not bad in campaign tbh, ~S tier unit for campaign..
For endgame content, Ein is definitely worth one copy at the very least. Dupes depend on your competitiveness as well as whether or not you want her MLB lobby screen or not. Otherwise, one copy should suffice.

Why is she good?
Quite literally, Ein is the the actual, the final "Scarlet Killer" ( ScarletAttack<- this one, not this one: ScarSmug ). Scarlet used to be one of the BiS unit against Solo Bosses at one point. But as the meta changed, she has dropped in usefulness. The one spot Scarlet had in Bosses was a slot alongside Summer Anis, often seen in Doro Marciana S.Anis Scarlet Priv, or in Doro Biscuit S.Anis Scarlet Priv, and a couple of other S.Anis/Scarlet combos.
This combo can finally be considered broken as Ein can directly compete against and displace Scarlet due to her DPS. Not only does Ein deal more damage, she also doesnt suffer from ptsd (probably from raptures) as she doesnt actively kill herself while fighting, and hence is an automatically better option.

A couple of points that go against Ein are that Scarlet is better in PvP. In PvE, Scarlet is still a better campaign unit. If you have tons of elemental rolls on your Scar already, you can make an argument on how investment heavy Ein will be compared to her since Scarlet is already built.

Another thing is kinda major. While the upcoming boss with its def buffs will definitely get fucked by Ein's true damage, the same case might not be true against other bosses. While Ein is stronger than Scarlet, Scarlet herself was not considered meta currently in the first place in bossing. So while Ein does have a permanent spot in electric raids atm, it comes at the expense of the fact that she may not be used against other elements

limpid crest
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Cant even skip Ein because her 4head is too big to walk around

waxen blaze
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I guess that 145 pull is worth

humble swallow
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scarlet went from strongest unit in the game to completely powercrept before i could pull her pain

lusty pine
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She’ll possibly be quite good against Mother Whale, at least KEKS

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It depends on how true damage works against Mother Whale

plain zinc
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her aoe is like

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pretty nice

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in camp

limpid crest
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I dont remember, can her drones target parts?

lusty pine
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I can test that. Currently stuck on 730F which is Mother Whale. I can just burst Ein while enemies are down and see if drones attack the summoning ports

plain zinc
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i cant figure out the fire rate tho idk how to lmfao
do i just have to record and go frame by frame like what Sadge

lusty pine
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In a 7 second video, I recorded her non-burst set of 4 drones shooting 3 times (total)

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In a 9 second video, I recorded her burst set of 6 drones spamming attacks

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So
 feels like it goes from once every 2 seconds to once every half second

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I didn’t frame by frame, so not exact

limpid crest
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for some reason i thought someone mentioned that atk speed varied by amount of drones out. Where did this come from. schitzo behaviour

kind sandal
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Excited to use her with Summer Anis to possibly replace Scarlet. Not sure how she does in AOE

plain zinc
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this lil shit is affected by all full burst multipliers

oak violet
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U record then u count frames between hits

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Then u convert that to seconds

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If u don't have stable 60 use a mg as your timeline

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Full Burst also has a per second timer you can use for her 6 feather

stable kestrel
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@plain zinc do I need ein if I already have Laplace for true damage?

lusty pine
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That’s another question, who’s better between Ein and Laplace treasure?

modest helm
fast salmon
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btw

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i was just thinking

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since ein has a bunch of charge damage buffs

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how big is sniper doll's effect on her

void river
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So what's the verdict with Ein? She broken?

noble shoal
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Apparently better than scarlet if built just right?

golden rune
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has anyone theory crafted what how she'll pair with Favorite Item Frima? That's an additional 78% buff to true damage

verbal oasis
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Not gonna stop using scarlet

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idc

urban river
lusty pine
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If it was a choice between Ein and Scarlet for killing a Water boss, one team only, then Ein potentially forces Scarlet out
 or you’d just bring both. Ein + S.Anis + Scarlet.

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But heals where

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Crown should’ve been given a team heal madge (I’m kidding
 maybe)

limpid crest
frigid wind
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OL'ed her vest, got my 2nd atk line

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Wer Ele

silver spoke
tulip crater
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Does Ein give Clay a role in a true damage team? Or a cursed Biscuit&Clay S.Anis&Ein team?

Or does Clay remain garbage VoltKek

lusty pine
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I thought Clay was just fundamentally bad

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It wasn’t a situation of, “oh she is mediocre but almost made it to being decent or good”

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Just
 “everyone run from her” as soon as her banner appeared

plain zinc
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Skill investment:

1/1/1 -> 4/4/4 -> 7/7/7 -> 10/10/10
Starting -> Minimum -> Recommended -> High

Overload Investment:
4 × Elemental
4 × ATK
1-2 × Ammo

Acceptable: CS, Crit

plain zinc
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there are better options

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imo like, use another dps over clay

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it is 100% better

compact mist
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y no ammo

lusty pine
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Bay was at least useful in some specific cases in PvP, but Clay
 she’s more for that new commander who had the misfortune to pull her instead of even Centi in their first week of play

tulip crater
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....crystal chamber, maybe?

plain zinc
tulip crater
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As an Ade with small attack buffs?

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Hahahahaha

compact mist
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fair

plain zinc
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ig if u

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run her with

lusty pine
plain zinc
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laplace

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you need ammo

plain zinc
compact mist
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4ele 4atk 2ammo 2cs sounds nice

plain zinc
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per piece

tulip crater
compact mist
plain zinc
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more comfortable options even

lusty pine
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Sometimes a Solo Raid will show up that begs you to use Cocoa, Ade, Winter Mica, etc, but that’s about it

plain zinc
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its just that cleanse has no real use in nikke

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xMica is used due to the fact that there are not enuf good b1s

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but also cuz she provides like 70 moer buffs

alpine spruce
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Does ein replace maxwell/laplace in missilis tower?

lusty pine
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Ein while very cool doesn’t have piercing effect

compact mist
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only on elec weak boss

lusty pine
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But, you can sidegrade to Ein and replace either Maxwell or Laplace if the other one you kept is pretty strong. You will need at least 1 strong piercer, minimum. 2 is better.

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Which to me means might as well just keep both Maxwell and Laplace

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But yeah if there is a Water boss, Ein can come in and shine

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Mother Whale is Water (electric-weak)
 and you will have to fight her in Tower kekw

alpine spruce
lusty pine
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Nevermind trying to use Sniper Rifle and Rocket Launcher against Mother Whale minions KEKL

tranquil grove
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Not even in electric weak campaign?

lusty pine
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If you build her big for raiding reasons, then take her for a spin in an Electric-weak campaign, she should do really well, I believe, unless facing hit count stuff

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But she suffers still, no piercing. But there isn’t a piercing Electric Nikke anyway?

lilac whale
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tbh just did some look into her. Ein does pretty good damage I was surprised.

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I like the Gunbit concept; visually its really impressive

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@plain zinc Same Cube as everyone else? or is Charge Speed worth

plain zinc
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honestly

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people overrate cubes

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put resil in reload speed team
put bastion in non reload speed team

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it is ALWAYS this

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never changes

lilac whale
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Really wonder what cube levels will do and if they will unlock 3rd slot

prisma bridge
lilac whale
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but thats not a topic for another month or so

prisma bridge
tulip crater
tulip crater
limpid crest
tidal cove
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Pin says get one copy but is she worth using gold tickets on?

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Or just wishlist and pray?

lusty pine
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Gold ticket now is too short term benefits, not worth

tidal cove
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👍

tidal glade
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Is it better to summon for ein or use my gold tickets

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I have 400 gold tickets rn and i have 60k gems rn

limpid crest
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read the messages directly above yours

tidal glade
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O dang i aint even realise

prisma bridge
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You use your gems but it depends on your goal

plain zinc
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Do NOT use gold tickets

plain zinc
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It's fine to skip her ass bru

oak violet
plain zinc
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Skip

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Bro she a fkn child

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Juvenile ahh

oak violet
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Fbi don't arrest me it's a meme

plain zinc
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She cute tho

rare vine
frigid wind
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Has anyone tried her out in Arena?

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ok note to self: Don't use Ein against Diesel

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bad idea

lusty pine
frigid wind
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Good thing Diesel was the only one left, it was a 3v1 in my favor

lusty pine
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How’s Ein in PvP?

frigid wind
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Imma try and find someone with Noise in their comp

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Or something tanky

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The drones should be able to shred them

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ded

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CP diff

tidal cove
plain zinc
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that were called scar killers

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but she is the final final nail in the coffin

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you should be surprised if u see her at the top now

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cuz shes just outdpsed by everyone

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unless its an electric weak raid

tidal cove
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Pretty sad to hear as someone with an lb2 scarlet NeonScream

regal galleon
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try core 2

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the fuck

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or even worse my core 3 harran who’s been killed by scarlet since the beginning

plain zinc
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Harran L

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Isabel bigger L

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Have both in cores as f2p

limpid crest
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Headpattable

ripe cargo
ruby sleet
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Is she worth pulling or is this a skip?

unborn wagon
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I see

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I already have RH AND Scarlet so adding her just for solo raids could be usefull

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Not rn tho

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So It's an Easy skip

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To the wishlists

frigid wind
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Time to test her against Water Train

rigid elm
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harran treasure is finalest scarlet killer

tulip crater
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My core 2 Harran quivers in anticipation

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Lemme run Rosco & Treasure Harran & Summer Sakura for sustain damage memes

cold dawn
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My SR15 core 9 scarlet crying reading the verdict Sadge

rancid geode
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Any cube is fine, right?

tulip crater
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If their numbers weren't garbage Onslaught or Adjutant would be viable.

Hit rate is useless for a sniper so assault is worthless.

As always, resilience or bastion. Whichever is free/higher level.

echo ravine
tulip crater
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I wonder if the drones are enough to make Quantum be a better burst gen buff than adjutant MedeaThink

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For PVP

echo ravine
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is charge up speed ok too

tulip crater
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Charge speed cube stats are pretty garbage, so even though Ein wants charge speed not sure the cube is viable outside PvP

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And that's because PvP is less about damage than who can fill their burst bar faster

rancid geode
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Ein: Shit OLs, skill 7/7/7, auto shooting range, elemental is not weakness. Damn

rancid geode
shut cloak
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alice is mlb

rancid geode
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Mine is core 7...

shut cloak
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lol wat

rancid geode
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MLB is 3*

potent pivot
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is that macaroni alice or nah?

shut cloak
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I don't use macro no

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do people still use sniper macros for alice?

woeful lark
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Mhm

wary crane
wintry rampart
jaunty timber
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Ein is so fast in pvp lol

shut cloak
jaunty timber
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Guarantee full burst in 3-4 sec

wary crane
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Oh okay

shut cloak
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would be higher if i manual'd alice

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but i'm not going to do that in a shooting range

plain zinc
wary crane
plain zinc
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he is actually really good

jaunty timber
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Finally i can take jackal somewhere off the stall comp

wary crane
plain zinc
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macro saves him from both possible arthiritis and carpal tunnel Prayge

lyric nebula
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Do i pull for ein or nahhhhhh

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Cuz when i see her damage shes kinda goooooood

jaunty timber
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Ppl mostly pull her for raids or pvp

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It's up to you considering collab and 2nd anniv is near

wary crane
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I really didn’t expect her to be good in pvp honestly

jaunty timber
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I'd beg to differ

wary crane
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Man what if they cook again with Zwei🗿

jaunty timber
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Absolutely bonker, she wrecked down scarnuke

agile linden
jaunty timber
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Forgot to record smh, maybe tmr

lyric nebula
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I guess i wont pull.. for now

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She will be on wishlist?

jaunty timber
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Yeah

agile linden
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I really hope zwei is a free skip

lyric nebula
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2nd anniversary when and will there be new op pilgrim😈

agile linden
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I had to pull on 3 banners

jaunty timber
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One copy then i'll be gone

wary crane
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One copy can potentially cost more than 100AnneWorry

agile linden
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I missed the "1 copy" at tia and dwife

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sparked both

jaunty timber
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If that happens i'll have 600 gold tix

agile linden
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pulled like 200+ on both of them

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I'm not trusting "just 1" anymore

jaunty timber
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Le me skipped jk and bunnies

agile linden
plain zinc
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remember that

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this is not

jaunty timber
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Had to cope with Mast 2B for raids

plain zinc
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eden

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thanks

frigid wind
wary crane
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That’s
. What we thought about bay and claykekw

wary crane
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Now idk if we should use treasure exia or frima with Ein

frigid wind
wary crane
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Makes no sense clay is 40s
 considering she is also electric, could have been a decent unitAnisBruh

frigid wind
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Man, if Clay was 20 secs

potent pivot
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ein for pvp?

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chat, is this real?

wary crane
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Seems like it

frigid wind
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Oh right speaking of Arena

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She seems good

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shreds Nikkes fast

rigid elm
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Well judging by her Burst and Buff..

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The has to be over A

wicked marsh
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I don't like Ein's sniper sounds why does it sound like an airsoft gun NeonScream

agile linden
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ein is so bad against cc

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its not even funny

alpine spruce
azure kindle
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so guys, is ein topping redhood?

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i still don't have any of the pilgrims yet

woeful lark
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lol nope

jaunty snow
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She's topping your Red Hood then ScarletHeh

woeful lark
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Only Pilgrim she tops is Scarlet in PvE

azure kindle
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what about anis?

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just tryna figure if shes worth burning gems on

wary crane
azure kindle
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im fairly new and i got 100 pulls sitting in the bank

wary crane
azure kindle
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on train about 3-4 before getting rekt most times

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gravedigger 6-7 lacking the dps to rush it

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rest i can full clear just outsustaining with heal

woeful lark
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Sounds about right

azure kindle
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800 pulls deep no pilgrims still haha so my luck pre sad

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was hoping ein could at least match redhood maybe? 😛

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would help for story mode to

woeful lark
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No standard Nikke is going to match Red Hood

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When she first came out, she was a solid jack-of-all-trades, but then they buffed her way too much heh

azure kindle
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but some match like snow white and stuff right?

woeful lark
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Yeah, other Pilgrims can be matched YesNod

azure kindle
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surely redhood gets power crept eventually

woeful lark
azure kindle
agile linden
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super good mhm

wary crane
agile linden
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imo buff was needed they just overdid it

woeful lark
azure kindle
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so for graves i try

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full shotgun comp

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let me get my game up

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forget there names ahaha

agile linden
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it was good enough

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they went all in

woeful lark
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Yup

agile linden
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I remember the math

woeful lark
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as a result, seeing standard Nikkes that match Red Hood probably won't happen for a long time

agile linden
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we said a number they doubled it

woeful lark
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Her current burst level 1 is higher than the original level 10 KEKL

azure kindle
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hope red hood gets a banner coming back

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so i can have a chance at her 😛

woeful lark
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Ein is mid-Pilgrim tier since she matches/edges out on Scarlet

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Better than Harran/Isabel, around Scarlet/SW (poor conditions), below the rest

azure kindle
wary crane
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They don’t rerun doro so don’t expect too muchCrownSmug

woeful lark
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If you're not concerned about collabs, no harm in rolling a few times

azure kindle
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ok games up

woeful lark
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She's a good unit

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Still requires pretty heavy investment tho, so don't expect her to work miracles without dumping skills mats/gear exp into her

azure kindle
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this would be my usual gravedigger team but i just pulled SANIS this morning so i can probz fit her in somewhere

rich heart
wary crane
woeful lark
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Sorry, meant future standard Nikkes

azure kindle
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and this is the my train comp, but train is insanely hard,

woeful lark
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Alice is a balance error that Shift Up was too late to fix KEKL

woeful lark
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And Red Hood wins vs human hands Alice unless Alice has elemental advantage in my case kekYep

rich heart
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Hidden pilgrim NeonAAAA

azure kindle
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noir can be replaced with privoty

woeful lark
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Tove also has max ammo gimmicks and doesn't want be with S Anis usually yabai

azure kindle
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tove's my only shotgun buffer

woeful lark
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She's the only one KEKL

azure kindle
woeful lark
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Liter's max ammo buff is pretty small, so it shouldn't be terribly problematic

agile linden
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mods might bonk us

woeful lark
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True

azure kindle
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ok yeah lets stop

woeful lark
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Ein doesn't have that problem tho deluthonk

azure kindle
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my main topic was tryna figure out to pull ein as well ahaha

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but i do care about the collabs if their someone i want đŸ„Č

final kite
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anyone leveled more than 7/7/7?

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or do I need to

wary crane
azure kindle
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might have to wishlist save and hope Sanis carrys me enough ahaha

wary crane
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Again she isn’t game breaking. Even back in the day I need a built scarlet and modernia + biscuit & noah comp to clear train +

azure kindle
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thanks for advice but

azure kindle
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i want to start doing pilgrim tower đŸ„Č

wary crane
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You will get there eventually deadge

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We all start with pilgrim tower being the lowest. Now a lot of people have pilgrim tower being the highest

azure kindle
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mines at 1 cause i don't have pilgrims still XD

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and can't get the pilgrim molds to try for 1 đŸ„Č

brisk kelp
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Ok so after looking at the history for 10 minutes,

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I guess it’s better to skip this time 😅 and just put her on wish list in the future so I can catch a break and level up other guys

toxic mauve
final kite
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what's yours

woeful lark
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Scarlet 0/3, full OL +5/+5/+5/+0, 10/4/7 vs Ein 0/3, 3 OL +0/+0/+0, 1 T9M +0, 4/4/6

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vs UR Alteisen

final kite
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she's literally scarlet without self hurting

wicked marsh
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Scarlet is on 9/9/9 full OL with a high level cube

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Also don't mind Rem's DPS decreasing

Nikke FPS goes down the more I play cuz laptop has bad temps 4kSkull

lusty pine
woeful lark
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Is that auto Ein or quickfire?

lusty pine
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Also, between CDR and being buffed by Frima, I take it that the buffs are just superior for Ein

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So perhaps within 1-2 months, we will see only Frima teams for Ein for the ones wanting to maximize Ein

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Unfortunately, Solo Raid Challenge is in 8-9 days, likely too late if someone wants to start building Frima phases 2 and 3 today

noble shoal
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It might also be too late for me to work on exia, since I never touched her at all

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I'm now close to getting the amount for the treasure

wicked marsh
lilac whale
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is... Ein supposed to have unlimited ammo during bursts??????

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her ammo count wasnt going down

tired sluice
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SAnis + Crown

lilac whale
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It stays at 3. Its just weird

tired sluice
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.

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You are using Privaty and SAnis right?

lilac whale
#

yeah, and you are prob right. its just weird it doesnt decrease

tired sluice
#

That happens with every SR and RL with excess reload speed

lilac whale
#

so its just a visual bug

#

or its just she reloads so fast shes always at max ammo

tired sluice
lilac whale
#

interesting. thanks

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never really use RL/SR on Sanis comp so never noticed that interaction before.

potent pivot
#

blud missed out on biscuit+ass days

lone heath
#

why does a schoolgirl have pilgrim rates

compact mist
#

2022 pilgrim < 2024 bait banner

#

now thats powercreeping

lone heath
#

wait Ein is bait?

#

isn't she the best elec char now?

compact mist
#

well she’s after the summer event and before a collab

#

would be a good timing to save

compact mist
lone heath
#

Yeah I mean with SAnis of course

#

broken synergy

jaunty snow
#

Collab will be mid tho, don't need to save much BlancStare

woeful lark
#

Unless one likes the characters and must simp sadsimp

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or it's Stellar Blade collab and they make them OP cuz they could actually rerun it KEKL

jaunty snow
#

They don't even rerun Skin, so I don't think they will rerun a Collab even if it's their own IP kekw

woeful lark
#

The plan to rerun skins. We just don't know when delul

jaunty snow
#

inb4 the "Rerun pack" in shop, $100 for 1 previous skin, $200 for 1 previous Gacha skin Doro

lone heath
#

don't worry they'll rerun skins whenever champion's arena is finally released teeth

#

they just have to stop delaying it

final kite
#

syuen became f2p?

lusty pine
#

Exia, not Frima?

#

Is Frima worse than Exia for Ein? NovelThink

#

I think I have no choice but to do the same as well. At least, for my priorities and interests

#

I still have Laplace at 4/4/4 T9Ms

#

And, if I have to choose having a 2nd invested B3 for Missilis Tower

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Between Laplace treasure and Ein


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I think Ein actually offers more because Red Hood is firmly the queen of Iron element damage

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Along with Snow White, Maxwell, filling it out

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While, there’s no actual queen of Electric element damage, it was S.Anis but Ein is now turning her into a true support. Not to mention, S.Anis is still a shotgun user

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That, and I’m kind of still finding the feather drones to be very cool

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I’ll get to push Missilis Tower with Ein taking the dps lead and Maxwell can actually buff her too. What’s with Missilis and snipers lol

#

Speaking of, did someone say Ein’s burst instant damage includes being buffed by Full Burst?

#

Does that mean Maxwell’s buffs entering full burst, apply to Ein first before Ein’s AoE deals damage?

woeful lark
#

I'm not resetting her cuz she's as strong as Ein is KEKL

#

She outdamages Scarlet vs UR Alteisen, which is Electric weak kekYep

final kite
#

dem

#

more and more bald heads are doing like 10/10/9 ein

#

how tf can they dry me so fucking hard about skill chips with non limited

lyric vault
#

Overclock should ease that urge for more mats a little

dawn sphinx
#

Always the same issue and pattern, new unit, no skills to increase it and enjoy the unit => go to shop or leave it at 4/4/4 hoard and wait for a better unit to invest
Team building is fun

final kite
#

overcock ded

#

till next month

lusty pine
#

Well, at least Ein has something currently pretty unique with the feathr drones

#

I have my doubts that ShiftUp will make another true damage heavy B3, and even if they did, there’s room for 2 more such B3s before Ein gets forced out of that team

#

So I have my bet that Ein will remain relevant for at least a year

regal galleon
#

i think ein would be fine cause it’ll just eventually be like sg team

lusty pine
#

S.Sakura, would also be relevant too, sure

regal galleon
#

keep one b3 and rotate the dps based on ele

lusty pine
#

So my main concern atm is Exia vs Frima for Ein

regal galleon
#

privm (copium treasure) drake etc

lusty pine
#

I was going to build up Frima but then saw here that nobody’s thinking of Frima + Ein, just Exia + Ein

regal galleon
#

if you want FS still then frima

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if you want full blown electric team exia

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but frima is more flexible

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so

tranquil grove
#

Ein's feathers (or lack thereof) finally clued me in that the game downgraded me to medium quality on my phone (complete with 30fps lock)

prisma bridge
#

1%?

lone heath
prisma bridge
#

lol I thought you said pull rate

neat island
#

Anyone can do a quick test for invested Ein and treasure laplace

#

curious which unit can push me far into missiles tower

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Ein's burst seem more fun i'm leaning more toward her

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already have maxwell built

#

I do see couple of laplace and ein running together instead of mw

plain zinc
final kite
#

this is fucking hilarious

plain zinc
final kite
#

she got one lv0 OL with trash lines

#

scarlet has 4 lv5 OLs

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and total dmg is higher with priv as expected

dawn sphinx
#

What about Ein level skills here

lusty pine
#

I went ahead and max invested Ein aside from breakthroughs. 15 rocks, got 65% elemental damage. No atk% but that’s okay

#

I also went ahead and got Frima favorite item

#

Will see how it works out in Solo Raid, but I like the idea of a dedicated true damage team regardless

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Idk if any good in PvP either but not that picky about PvP

#

I think I’ll give that team Crown despite what others are saying here

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Just so there’s a Frima + Crown + Ein trio

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Idk if I want Laplace after all but if I do get her heavily invested, I’ll put Laplace in that team too

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But I think I might need 2 slots to be flex

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It’s not so much efficiency but fascination with the theme of true damage hehe

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So it’s pretty risky because I might feel a bit pissed off if in the end it turns into a mediocre team

dawn sphinx
lusty pine
#

I did consider some mitigating factors

#

1 is, that evil Mirror Container may well show up in coop

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2 is, that evil Mirror Container will come back in towers

dawn sphinx
lusty pine
#

I wish Frima was Missilis though lol

dawn sphinx
#

Also the boss can come back during SI hard mode even they only talked about indivillia and crystal chamber

shut cloak
lusty pine
#

Eh for that it’s better to invest after realizing it’s in Anomaly Intercept

#

Tbh that’s also true about the rest of the possibilities

lusty pine
#

Anyways, we’re at least a week before finding out

shut cloak
#

no cdr is pain, but throw the team into shooting range first

dawn sphinx
#

Still waiting a RL doll for laplace but I also need them for PVP units, I won't treasured her soon

lusty pine
#

I still need more Frima mats but I’m 24 off atm, so 8 days. Plus any from Solo Raid

lusty pine
#

Idk if it’s my stuff but shooting range with counter element, Dolla > Maxwell, CDR won

#

That and maybe Dolla was doing something else

#

So I guess that’s my team

frigid wind
hybrid garnet
#

Scored a SR sniper doll from the mileage box. I'm tempted to give it to Ein

lusty pine
#

I might do that and ignore Exia

#

But in such a case, it would be Red Hood that wins this kind of consideration

lusty pine
# frigid wind

23 seconds in of Harmony Cubes can be found in certain Lost Sectors, fight finally loads pepehmmm

hybrid garnet
#

I've already given Hood an SR. I should probably do the responsible thing and give this SR to Alice.

#

But I'm lowkey tired of looking at Alice.

lusty pine
#

Taunt almost screwed over Ein there

#

But a win, and it's an offense team option that lets you send in multiple strong B3s spread across teams

#

Not bad

#

No Jackal feeding fears either

#

Though the drones might do that, a bit, actually 👀

frigid wind
hybrid garnet
#

Ein has been really helpful for my Missilis Tower climbing. I swapped Maxwell out for her and stages have been a bit more comfy.

#

comfier*

frigid wind
#

She just shreds the big shield raptures

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and the tanky ones with the one shot lasers

lusty pine
#

Not to mention she'll be able to help against certain bosses later. Mother Whale pepedeadge

#

It's still a bad matchup despite the counter element because you want MGs, but she can possibly contribute one AoE clear to one of the early minion waves

#

Which is better than, frankly, Maxwell, Laplace, trying to do this

#

For the clear I did, I had to endure through the minion waves as much as possible and survive the whale flyover

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I did not clear them, a lot of them were still alive and died to the flyover KEKS

#

Then Tia ate the elite spawn wave to let the team carry on to victory PepePray

wicked marsh
#

I wonder if Zwei would buff Ein further

frigid wind
urban river
#

Maybe she buff her drones who knows

#

Image zwein buff true dmg

frigid wind
#

More true dmg

#

nice

urban river
frigid wind
urban river
#

Is ok, electric DPS are fucked

#

We need more

lyric nebula
#

Crown/Liter/Scarlet/Ein/S.Anis = gud?

urban river
#

Good for what?

lyric nebula
#

Idk

#

😜

frigid wind
urban river
#

I don't like that team

lyric nebula
#

me neither but saw someone do it

urban river
#

I prefer, doro crown Ein sanis priv

frigid wind
#

And Doro instead of Liter

lyric nebula
lyric nebula
frigid wind
lyric nebula
#

I thought she was ass when she came out

#

newbie

woeful lark
#

Ideally you don't want three B3 DPS units with Crown

#

She's designed to work with either a healer for continued S2 procs or an additional buffer

lyric nebula
#

What doro even do?

woeful lark
#

Doro deals damage

#

Also helps with part breaking

frigid wind
#

Do damage to it, and it will explode

lyric nebula
#

ohh

woeful lark
#

Crown's S1 only provides offensive buffs to the actively bursting Nikkes, so a third off-burst B3 would never receive her ATK buffs

frigid wind
# lyric nebula ohh

and the explosion deals the total damage the mark received, the damage cap scales with Doro's atk

woeful lark
#

So using Naga/Rapunzel/B Alice for heals to keep S2 activated or Privaty for additional ATK buff/infinite ammo is ideal

woeful lark
#

Mhm

lyric nebula
#

So pull or nahh

#

i got 200 tix for anni

woeful lark
#

If you care about getting collab units and are not a whale, save

#

If you care about high ranks in solo raid and don't care much about collabs, pull

#

If you're a whale, akkoShrug

frigid wind
#

I pulled coz I'm Scarletless, I've already accepted that she ain't coming any time soon so I had to take a chance on Ein

woeful lark
#

Ah yeah, those without Scarlet have a bit more pressure to pull

frigid wind
#

And it turned out good for my account

woeful lark
#

Although if someone doesn't have S Anis/S Helm, those two are definitely the priority

frigid wind
lyric nebula
#

So if already have scarlet then no need to pull?

woeful lark
#

She's better than Scarlet, but they fill the same general role in PvE for the most part

#

so you can definitely survive without Ein if you have Scarlet; your results for this coming solo raid just may be a bit lower

lyric nebula
#

B-better than scarlet?

woeful lark
#

Yes

lyric nebula
#

H-how come..

frigid wind
#

Imma delay my campaign progress for now, I need Ein to be at full OL by the time I get to the final boss

#

Gonna see how can she fare against it

woeful lark
#

Ein doesn't hurt herself, and a large portion of her damage is true damage, which provides around +24% DPS

frigid wind
#

(Tho I'm probably gonna walk in on blue CP)

lyric nebula
#

but

#

But

woeful lark
#

Ein's also much less reliant on OL lines

lyric nebula
#

im broke asf

woeful lark
#

Scarlet without OLs suffers from low magazine capacity and extremely long reload

frigid wind
#

Oh...right

woeful lark
#

Without reload support or Max Ammo OLs, her DPS suffers a lot

#

Ein doesn't care kek

lyric nebula
#

So whats the ideal team comp

woeful lark
#

That we don't know yet

#

Won't know until Solo Raid starts

#

New boss has some really complicated mechanics

frigid wind
lyric nebula
#

watch me get ein in 1 pull with 900 gems

frigid wind
#

I just hope it won't drop frames for me like how Crystal Chamber did

noble shoal
#

Now that I think about it, I might need her for this solo raid

lyric nebula
hybrid garnet
#

I spent way too much to get Ein, but I'm also 100+ on regular recruit pulls without an SSR so it was a "pick your poison" decision.

tulip crater
#

May Zwei will be B1 and save me from having to invest in Frima Treasure

jaunty snow
#

I just got FI Frima so no BlancStare
I just want a B2 CDR + True Damage Buffer now.

Also Zwei looks more like B3 sadly...

final kite
#

Known feathers spec from datamine

S1: Summon 4 feathers (1, 2, 3, 4)
Burst: Summon 6 feathers (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6)

  • 4 from S1 + 2 from burst
  • Already summoned feathers from S1 have their duration and attack cooldown reduced after burst

Duration of each feathers
Feather 1: unlimited
Feather 2: 38 secs
Feather 3: 32 secs
Feather 4: 26 secs
Feather 5: 10 secs
Feather 6: 10 secs

Attack interval

  • Basically attacks every 8 secs
  • Each existed feather reduces attack intervals by 16% and the reduction seems multiplicative calculated (not 100% correct)
urban river
#

Idk if a low spender like me who doesn't have mats for her is still good to invest in her

#

I guess is time to massacre whale the whole books in cash shop xD

#

And now the line between whales and low spenders is big

#

Euro*

frigid wind
urban river
#

Nah I don't wanna start to buy books

#

I guess is time for me to say bye bye top 200

frigid wind
#

I just want Overcock to drop now

#

Or maybe Full Bust Day everyday

burnt schooner
frigid wind
frigid wind
hybrid garnet
#

I've nearly quit the game twice and lost months of books, so I can't even pretend to be competitive.

urban river
#

Damn auto guys in kraken and digger was auto 3%

#

And stormbringer raid with 4b I was top 100

#

But is ok, Imma concentrate my investments in SG team

#

I like their mechanics

#

Ein is at the end...another scarlet

#

And tbh even if I like raids Im expecting invest in powercreep not in 1-1 units

#

And if 1-1 is the way... At least 1-1 RH

#

theoretically lappy is almost 1-1 Rh kek

#

Sg is brainless run yeah

rigid elm
#

books shortage won't last forever

#

gotta create a new type of shortage to sell stuff

urban river
#

they did it, dolls mats

#

And this shit

sly drum
#

I just use tunnelbear

#

It’s free

urban river
#

Nah I'm only buying skins buddy

#

not Naga one, I love Naga but the heck is that dress

sly drum
#

I know. But 23eur compared to 20$ which comes down to 18.sth eur does feel nicer on the wallet

urban river
#

I buy in pc

sly drum
#

me too

urban river
#

19.56 euro aprox

#

Per skin

final kite
#

buying usd is cheaper in game

urban river
#

He's not lying

blazing hemlock
#

scarlet is dead

noble shoal
#

It's joever for scarlet

neat island
#

scarlet never want to come home after 5000 pulls

#

so i declare......................... she sucks

torn nest
#

It's ok

#

My uncle works at ShiftUp and he told me Scarlet treasure is next

#

I verified with my uncle just now

#

He told he's pretty sure that's what he overheard

#

(he works as a janitor there)

final kite
#

scarlet is still needed in pvp tho

rare vine
urban river
rare vine
#

SAnis is the real pilgrim level

lusty pine
#

There are some underdoggable stages where you need to keep a buffer Rapture alive to buy time. Ein’s feathers doesn’t hold back KEKS

#

I wonder if it’ll get killed, or not

plain zinc
#

Why is this thread still alive
I thought everything was done

lusty pine
#

It’s not over until Queen Ein takes over everything

plain zinc
#

She's basically just a s.sakura

lusty pine
#

I like the mothership feeling though

potent pivot
#

first aircraft carrier nikke

oak violet
noble shoal
#

Is reload cube the better one to equip on her?

lyric vault
#

just use the best one you have available. Resil is the default option as it is the most universal one

noble shoal
#

Noted 👍

still storm
#

whatchu talking about? the defense cube is obviously the best meta breaking one

#

it fits so well, you can't even feel the difference

oak violet
#

Def cube is for pvp

#

The pvp chads know

#

The Dr one at least but def cube actually. Also potentially changes targeting stuff hmmCross idk if they use it tho

fast salmon
#

btw are charge damage lines good for ein?

urban river
#

no

#

atk>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>charge dmg

compact mist
#

250 base ch dmg + 220 from kit

#

max ch dmg roll is 14%

#

pretty mid

urban river
#

ele>>>>>> atk

compact mist
#

ch spd and ammo are better than ch dmg for sure

waxen blaze
#

Ein really satisfying to play (not really playing it, but the drone satisfying to see), that 145 pull is not wasted

final kite
#

this jk is goat in missiles tower too

sharp elm
#

So, if both my scarlet and ein have lvl5 t9m gear, and i have 4 rocks to OL their whole set, which one would u say is more worth now? Cuz i got scarlet quite late so i never really had time to invest into her and idk if it would be better to just save that OL set for finally going into SW or just seeing if 2nd anni pilgrim will be powercrept meta attacker

compact mist
#

and do you care about pvp

sharp elm
#

I didnt really care about pvp due to being underlevwled for a long time but im starting to want to get into it cuz im finally near the same lvl as the opponents

compact mist
#

scarlet if you care about pvp, ein if you care about raids

#

It’s that simple I think NovelThink

sharp elm
#

Well i like raids significantly more so that sounds about as simple of a decision as you could bring to light haha

#

Unless i should be prioritizing any other units to OL in particular. I just did S.anis and doro in the past 2 weeks

compact mist
#

considering next SR is elec weak

#

sounds like a good plan

dawn sphinx
#

Ein is good for defense tower

lusty pine
#

Crystal Armor is a very confusing boss. He shows up in Ex stage, weak to electric

#

I beat it with Ein and S.Anis

#

Crown, Ein, S.Anis, Naga, Liter

#

The QTE he puts up is very hard to kill without using full burst

#

And otherwise he takes 1 damage often, and I have no clue how to stop or prevent it, or what triggers it

#

Boss information claims he summons gloves which turn invincible after 1 hit

#

Just like the Slippers from Mirror Container

#

And it’s these gloves that buffs his DEF high

#

Except
 I never saw any gloves?

#

Much less try to hit them, or even see Immune indicators

#

If anyone has an idea about that fight, lmk, I’m curious.

#

Ultimately I won simply by full bursting his QTE and otherwise waiting for it

#

Took a few full bursts

rare vine
#

I assume this means Alice burst, RH burst, SW burst, Max burst, etc.

#

special attacks.

woeful lark
#

Checking Crystal Armor out now

rare vine
#

tbh Zwei will also counter Mirror Container too fr

#

its obvious

lusty pine
#

Huh so Full Burst was truly the only way

rare vine
#

Zwei has special attack

#

but as usual, late banner

lusty pine
#

There’s someone trying Naga burst on Mirror Container now

#

It was reported earlier that it works to break the final 30 seconds QTE

rare vine
lusty pine
#

But it’s inconsistent and he can’t figure out why

#

It was working at first for a few runs

#

Then now it doesn’t work at all

rare vine
#

Special attack refers to targetable skills

#

Emilia, Maxwell, RH, Alice

lusty pine
#

What about S.Anis?

rare vine
#

And anything that can be targeted (range).

lusty pine
#

I was using that to break the QTE of Crystal Armor

#

In Full Burst


rare vine
#

Does it work? Consistently?

#

If it does, then it's anything that is not normal attack but skill damage.

lusty pine
#

Hmm could it be it was the team assisting and someone with special skill was breaking it, fooling me?

rare vine
#

Maybe?

#

What was your team?

lusty pine
#

Checking


woeful lark
#

Crystal Armor's QTE can be broken by normal attacks thonk

#

I just shredded it with Crown

#

No full burst

rare vine
#

Last 30s?

lusty pine
#

Crown, Ein, S.Anis, Naga, Liter

rare vine
#

It's probably SAnis or Ein.

woeful lark
#

X Lud also broke Crystal Armor's QTE alone

rare vine
#

Last 30s?

woeful lark
#

What do you mean last 30s? yabai

#

The boss wouldn't survive that long

rare vine
woeful lark
#

Ohh

rare vine
#

And the QTE is immune to anything but "special" attacks.

lusty pine
# rare vine Last 30s?

That’s in reference to Mirror Container, specifically. Basically, if you pass its phase 2, Mirror Container will bust out a full summon of 10 Slippers (phase 1 + phase 2) at once, put up a thick barrier, then start a team-annihilating QTE.

So far, the guy couldn’t hit the QTE - Immune always. Red Hood, Naga, etc.

woeful lark
#

Wait, how are people failing to kill this thing faste than that?

rare vine
#

Hard mode.

#

Solo Raid?

woeful lark
#

???

rare vine
#

Also weaker players.

woeful lark
#

Crystal Armor isn't a solo raid boss

lusty pine
#

We’re speaking of two different bosses hehe

woeful lark
#

And Hard Mode EX bosses are still ez

lusty pine
#

Mirror Container is one topic, Crystal Armor another

woeful lark
#

No CP penalty

rare vine
#

Red Hood burst cannot hit QTE?

lusty pine
#

And yeah I already killed Crystal Armor

#

Just confused about how it works

rare vine
#

is there any stage other than 32-33 that I can use to test?

lusty pine
#

I figured out Full Burst breaks its QTEs, but the skill descriptions failed me

#

It talks about summoning gloves which has the take only 1 hit

#

And that high DEF is provided by the gloves, onto boss

lusty pine
#

Nope lol but you mentioned, that it says Special Attacks

rare vine
#

This one is the final QTE.

lusty pine
#

And that does jibe with my discovery that I had to full burst to break it

#

Oh?

#

We’re mixing bosses again Kek_dog

rare vine
#

Oh did I

woeful lark
#

DEF up buffs

#

Only thing I can think of causing 1s

rare vine
#

oh its crystal armor

woeful lark
#

I'm not getting that problem

rare vine
#

wait what

woeful lark
#

Yes, as we've said

rare vine
#

are we talking about mirror container or crystal armor

lusty pine
#

Mirror mirror on the wall, who’s the most confused of all?

rare vine
#

and suddenly Kigitsune came in with Crystal Armor or am I wrong

woeful lark
#

Juratus started Crystal Armor conversation

rare vine
#

oh

woeful lark
#

See what I replied to with this above

rare vine
#

I mean he has been discussing Mirror Container in the other server

#

all night

lusty pine
#

Well, boredom

#

But let’s reset this here KEKS

#

I repeat, Mirror Container KEKS

#

Because, you know, want to stop the enemy’s special attack? Break the QTE


woeful lark
#

Gotcha

rare vine
#

hmm idk idc

lusty pine
#

Ty!

woeful lark
#

Broke one (left side on screenshot) and a DEF buff disappeared

rare vine
#

but they also write cancelations for other skills

rare vine
woeful lark
#

EX Boss closest to Ch 32 boss

#

I never do EX bosses, so I always have them available kek

rare vine
#

same

#

its storage for gems reserves

lusty pine
# rare vine I mean he has been discussing Mirror Container in the other server

Now I can stop. We solved the mystery pepehmmm The answer?
Naga ATK sucked. Kek_dog

As for why she confusingly could break the QTE here and there?

It was because Crown’s shield was still on Naga on those occasions, lasting 15 seconds, just long enough to let Naga apply the bigger ATK buff on team and herself in her burst. This elevated Naga from 1 dmg hits on QTE to something able to break the QTE.

#

No hit count shields or any nonsense

#

If the same thing is carried over to Solo Raid, that’s not going to be fun

#

Because boss gets back the 360% def up for that final 30 seconds part

#

So idk if Ein will have trouble here or not

#

But probably will be fine if team full bursts

#

Pretty much

lyric vault
#

EZ top 200 for malders

toxic mauve
#

hmmmmmm Ein is the best

main ginkgo
#

You think whales pissed off huh

#

There's pilot services atm kekw

urban river
#

Me pilot DieselHello

#

I don't want money

#

only part of your 50Ć«!_

shut cloak
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missilis tower 300 (nihilister)

woeful lark
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Ein actually doing quite a bit of work in hard campaign for me delugiggle (currently electric weak chapter)

tribal parrot
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Favorite Item Frima is presumably the better choice, but is it now worth building Clay for Ein?

woeful lark
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Building Clay is only worthwhile as an April Fool's joke

tribal parrot
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I had to ask, since she does buff true damage.

woeful lark
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Very minorly and only every 40s

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Sadly they killed her with low numbers and long cd

tribal parrot
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Sorry Clay, your're staying at level 1 forever.

woeful lark
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We have such strong B2s already that new characters need to either be best in a niche or otherwise just really solid to even have a chance

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A 40s B2 needs a Biscuit-tier burst a minimum

urban river
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Clay is cheap to build

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1/1/1 no ols

amber cave
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I liked Ein so much that I'm actually going to invest for 7/7/7 and full OL

rare vine
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Tia -> RH -> Naga -> RH

lusty pine
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Crown:
64.51% of caster’s attack
20.99% of attack damage
36.24% of attack damage

Naga:
16.18% of caster’s attack
31.02% of caster’s attack

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Oh, these are if both were level 10 skills. The guy must’ve had poor Crown S1?

rare vine
lusty pine
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Nvm my question, I figured it out. Crown’s S1 only needs team to go into Full Burst

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Indeed

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Such ATK stacking 😂

rare vine
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In Solo Raid u dont run her with Naga

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Instead Tia -> RH -> Naga -> RH

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Need to hold till last 30s.

lusty pine
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Yep and besides Solo Raid might be better tuned anyway

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Hopefully

wintry rampart
rare vine
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RH burst rots is not auto friendly

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U also dont want to auto for Mirror Container

wintry rampart
wintry rampart
woeful lark
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Next SR boss