#[Rosanna: Chic Ocean] New Unit Megathread

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wild karma
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the funny thing is that the best part of her kit isn't even parts related

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just burst like most other buffers

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it goes to show that simple things are usually the best

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like liter

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her burst is only 3 words

fickle temple
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I feel like one copy is enough.

3% of casters ATK, capping at 15%...

On a supporter.....

She doesn't really need high stats does she

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I doubt her own sustained damage will be significant compared to Sakura either

unborn cargo
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it's very low

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35% in average

fickle temple
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First unit in a while whose buffs don't really scale off their stats

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Only worth dupes for lobby/top 50 placement

edgy osprey
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one and done, best part about her is burst

fickle temple
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Yeah one copy vs 10 copies will be a marginal increase

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Meta wise get Sakura dupes instead of wait for collab

lyric vale
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Damn they really don’t wanna make the “mistake” of creating another sanis

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who wants good units really

unborn cargo
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Sanis is barely used in PVE these days

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pvp sure

mystic hinge
wild karma
unborn cargo
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definitely not in NA lul

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Yanni and Mcegan never use her btw

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not to mention a bunch near them

midnight dome
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I do believe Yanni and Mcegan are not big enough to cover entire NA.

unborn cargo
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yeah but they are currently the lowest

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waiting for Texas

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or you can say the same thing about the CN dude which I forgot his name

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he's boosting in Global and JP I think

hexed gorge
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Mlb

pseudo gazelle
small cairn
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Another OP character is crazy

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Rossana and Sakura good enough already for solo raid team

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3 meta in rowpain

lyric vale
fickle temple
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Collab is in August...maybe a 1-banner summer part 2 at best

ionic sparrow
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having a banner up during SAnis rerun is...

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it's just business

cunning sphinx
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The second half of the year is always "business".
Summer part 1, Summer part 2, Collab, Anni, Winter BlancStare

shrewd wren
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I expected Rosanna as the support to not be so good, I guess I was right, it's Blanc's damage taken without all the other support

jagged cypress
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Still better than most B2s ShiftyDerp

lime fern
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32% damage taken alone is huge

shrewd wren
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I am very on the fence about whether or not I'll pull her, because I have so many pulls saved

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But I don't even expect to use her much in SR after golden kraken's gone, for situations in which the 4th/5th teams are better off using SHelm, Rem or just being the shotgun team

lime fern
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yeah, without parts we have many better options
I doubt I would've used RCO for GD SR Doro

shrewd wren
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This kit does not inspire me at all

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I think I'm actually more tempted to pull SHelm now, because she will be a better B2 in my eyes

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I'll see how lucky I get with Sakura first

wild karma
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Shelm is dead outside of iron weak raid

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Roschic is more usable

shrewd wren
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Is she?

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vs. CDR?

hexed gorge
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Dolla>shelm

fickle temple
midnight dome
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Noir however deal decent dmg, and bunnies enable protection

shrewd wren
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And Rosco needs a second unit to do the healing for her anyways, for any boss that actually deals damage

midnight dome
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well, the healing part is optional

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you can cheese without healing

fickle temple
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Yeah it's flexible

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Which is good for long term use

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Also Rosco barely scales with stats, so one copy is pretty much as good as max core. Little reason not to grab one copy.

midnight dome
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that what I said before yeah

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SBIS can use more copy

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as DoT scale with atk

fickle temple
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Yeah Sakura:BiS wants dupes, like any attacker B3

fringe rapids
shrewd wren
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I only get one copy for every Nikke so it's always the same for me

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But Rosco, I would be pulling for a 4th or 5th team for wind-weak SR, and maybe a little more than that

midnight dome
fickle temple
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Rosco is good outside of wind weak

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Just needs to have parts

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Which pretty much all bosses do

fickle temple
shrewd wren
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With the new shotgun team + Laplace treasure coming up soon, I'm not very confident about that

fickle temple
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Honestly Rosco is the first support in ages whose buffs barely scales with dupes

midnight dome
fickle temple
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1/5 bosses are electric

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I'm willing to bet more than 1/5 have parts

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Therefore Rosco will be better than Shelm

shrewd wren
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That much is guaranteed

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But then you have to run Volume, which is something

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And there's also Dolla, as mentioned before

fickle temple
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You possibly forget that Dolla and SHelm have scuffed CDR

midnight dome
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well, reduce burst time is always good

fickle temple
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Part of why we don't use them often is their CDR is worse than a B1

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E.g. Dolla & Volume both offer little other than CDR

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But Volume has better CDR

jagged cypress
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With SG team out now, we don't need CDR on one team

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Meaning that just slot a B1 CDR with Rosanna, yeah

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If SG team isn't used, then likely it's S Helm or Dolla with SW

midnight dome
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So it's Leover? not Tover?

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Leona

fickle temple
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Nah we're saying Volume is free for Rosanna

jagged cypress
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Leona will still be best vs Water bosses, probably

shrewd wren
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Volume does give more CDR

jagged cypress
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since M Priv will shine there

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Essentially we now have:

  • Crown comp (Doro)
  • Tiga comp (DKW)
  • Bunnies comp (Liter)
  • Rosanna comp (Volume)
  • SG or SW comp (if they don't use Rosanna)
shrewd wren
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Actually, what skill levels are gonna be good for Rosco? I don't even know

fickle temple
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Wow where's my Doro + Priv + S.Anis comp

shrewd wren
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If I pull her, she'll be 4/4/4 and that's it

fickle temple
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Oh Is ee

jagged cypress
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S Anis probably dead outside of Electric raids now

fickle temple
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Crown comp

jagged cypress
fickle temple
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Doro's CDR isn't good enough without privaty

jagged cypress
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Or she's in SG comp

jagged cypress
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Or just use Privaty

shrewd wren
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Also there's Frima + Laplace comp waiting for treasures to be finished

fickle temple
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If I'm bringing Privaty I'm bringing S.Anis lol

jagged cypress
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We've seen both Doro/Crown/SBS/Alice/Priv and Doro/Crown/SBS/Alice/Rapu in SR

fickle temple
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Well, we have a variety of comps now

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Finally entering meta era where teams are chosen based on boss

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And not same 5 every time

shrewd wren
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Which is kind of a timer on Rosanna team as well, outside of wind

jagged cypress
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Yeah, the main thing that's been keeping us from varied teams has been lack of elemental variety

shrewd wren
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Sakura is a really obvious pull for me, we barely have wind DPS to speak of

fickle temple
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Frima + Laplace is big cope

shrewd wren
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Doesn't apply here

jagged cypress
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Fire, Wind, and Water have been suffering overall, but they're getting better

fickle temple
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Rosco will always be the best friend of Sakura:BiS lol

jagged cypress
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It's been better to just brute-force Pilgrims and similar-powered normals than it has been to use elemental comps

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Meanwhile now, Scarlet, our original brute-forcer, barely exists KEKL

fickle temple
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I tend to have Doro/Crown/S.Anis/Scarlet/Priv as a team, but that's cause I'm not a whale with every Nikke lol

jagged cypress
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Don't have to be a whale to have every Nikke thonk

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My minnow alt is only missing six

shrewd wren
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I'm a small spender and I have almost everyone, too

fickle temple
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Tbh skipping Modernia & SBS were both conscious choices which I now regret.

Definitely one copy of both summer limited to avoid the same issue hahaha

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But I also skip a lot so I can MLB favourites

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Quality > Quantity

shrewd wren
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I was there for CSM but skipped it

fickle temple
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Took a break and missed CSM, returned, then took another break and missed Nier

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Got rezero at least

jagged cypress
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If these units weren't limited, I'd say they could be skippable

shrewd wren
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But still, someone here said before that Rosco will always be SSakura's best friend

fickle temple
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Yeah me

jagged cypress
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but sadly, we won't know when we'll get more wind units, so the limited nature of them pressures one copy pretty hard

shrewd wren
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Why's that

fickle temple
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RosCo is already good, and like Rem for RL, she has bonus support for sustained damage

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Plus she gives parts damage so Sakura:BiS won't have issues taking down tanky parts

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Mainly those two reasons make it hard to see ever splitting them.

Well, desperation to get a wind in every SR team aside kekw

shrewd wren
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You're saying that Sakura will be used in golden kraken as the 4th/5th team, instead of fitting into Crown, bunnies or JKs?

wild karma
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if we have 5 crowns, there will be no b2 variety anymore

shrewd wren
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Especially since Rosco will be 4/4/4 since I can't afford more lol

fickle temple
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For this raid some will split to get wind in every team if has interrupt circles.

But that aside:

Sakura mainly deals sustained damage. This means that:

  • JK are trash for her, as core buffs don't help
  • Depending on whether her burst snapshots, Crown's S1 might not help her either

She's actually hard to buff, and RosCo is specifically designed for it.

Plus the parts damage helping fast turnover and destruction of parts which Sakura wants

shrewd wren
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So, essentially what you're saying is that RosCo/Sakura are gonna be top contributors for wind-weak bosses with no core and parts that constantly regenerate right away

fickle temple
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You asked why not slot SakuraBiS into teams such as JK

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JK buffs are wasted on her

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Crown S1 possibly also wasted

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Bunnies she'd be fine in

jagged cypress
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Sakura will probably be in a similar situation as B Soda and M Priv were

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They'll be essential for getting to top ranks by buffing lower team damage

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Core teams probably unaffected since SBS is Wind Queen

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People without Sakura will have to cope with more of SG, S Anis, or SW, essentially

fickle temple
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Sakura & Rosco will be team 4/5 in any SR which is:

  • Wind weak (1/5 chance)
  • Has parts up for majority of battle (1/2 chance?)
  • Does not have mobs (?? Chance)

Most bosses regen parts pretty damn quick. It helps the ones low on parts are also usually high in mobs, e.g. Mother Whale, the room with turrets, etc.

shrewd wren
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"the room with turrets" is the best way to describe Material H I've seen yet

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Unless you mean a different room with turrets

fickle temple
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Nah that's the one

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I forgot it's generic ass name

shrewd wren
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Aren't the turrets parts?

jagged cypress
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MATH delugiggle

fickle temple
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They are, but they're infrequent

jagged cypress
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They're quite frequent thonk

shrewd wren
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More frequent than some other bosses I remember

fickle temple
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I'll rephrase, they die quick

shrewd wren
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More frequent than Kraken itself, really

fickle temple
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Good for Sakura

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Bad for Rosco

shrewd wren
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I'm gonna be honest, part damage up is not gonna matter for most bosses IMO

jagged cypress
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Aside from when Mat H screams and summons mobs, turret spawns are definitely less than 15s

shrewd wren
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Parts are down for most of the fight in a lot of bosses, when you're using your best DPSes

fickle temple
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MedeaThink yeah I guess it's actually a good one

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Just don't use Sakura: BiS burst while mobs exist

shrewd wren
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And shooting parts is not shooting core, which screws up most of the best DPS we have, so it's Sakura-exclusive

jagged cypress
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Also, Rosanna wants parts to break, same as SSakura

shrewd wren
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Which means Rosco is entirely dependent on Sakura being strong

fickle temple
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I feel Rosanna's parts damage is better than her ATK up when parts is destroyed

shrewd wren
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Or bosses forgetting their core at home

fickle temple
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Sakura is dependant on core at.home

jagged cypress
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Parts damage only works for first 15s mainwot

shrewd wren
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Also yes, parts damage has 50% uptime

jagged cypress
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Oh, S2

fickle temple
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S2 repeats it, so it's 15 of every 30

jagged cypress
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Gotcha

shrewd wren
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Which is minimal

jagged cypress
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Actually pretty important for teams like S Anis comp which suck at destroying parts KEKL

fickle temple
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Yeah RosCo will likely see use any boss like Modernia with a part you need to kill asap

cunning sphinx
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S1 and S2 Part Dmg% are basically the same, forcing you to lvl up the two skill for the exact same effect.
Shift Up's Evil Genius in action BlancStare

jagged cypress
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Except that S1 is bad sip

fickle temple
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S1 lower priority

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Only the first 15sec and the casters ATK up is kinda shit

jagged cypress
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3% Caster's ATK at level 10. What is is going to be at level 4? 1%? KEKL

fickle temple
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Burst -> S2 -> S1 is priority

jagged cypress
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So all of those skill mats for a wimpy 8-ish% ATK buff

cunning sphinx
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Yeah, but it would be way better if it was something like "force active S2" kekw

jagged cypress
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S1 is pretty much 4 for anyone who isn't a leviathan

fickle temple
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Needed to give S1 a reason to be levelled

jagged cypress
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No sense levelling it up further

fickle temple
shrewd wren
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I wonder what the burst level 1 values are

fickle temple
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Especially for Modernia

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Need S1 to kill that core

lyric vale
jagged cypress
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Burst is going to definitely need to be levelled

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That has a lot of room for scaling

shrewd wren
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I cannot afford such thing

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I haven't even levelled Laplace's burst to 10

fickle temple
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Burst is the majority of RosCo's meta

Everything else is just Cherry on top

jagged cypress
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Save that for later yabai

fickle temple
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Much like Blanc

shrewd wren
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Impossible

jagged cypress
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Shouldn't have an Iron raid for at least two months

cunning sphinx
shrewd wren
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I've been waiting for Laplace to be good for over a year, so I won't concede now

jagged cypress
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Fair

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I already had Laplace invested, so no need to do anything now deluhumu

shrewd wren
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Also my SG team still needs more skill levels too

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And Sakura herself, of course, which is more important than Rosco

pseudo gazelle
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It's going nowhere the frequency of units release is by far superior of the skills mats we got

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I still didn't up Tove and even less the SG team

jagged cypress
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That's why we should appreciate skip banners like Bay, Clay, and Trony sip

pseudo gazelle
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and I appreciate them a lot

cunning sphinx
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I would appreciate more an Overclock banner NoirStare

fickle temple
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B2 teams:

  • JK
  • Bunny
  • Crown
    Team 4 If boss is:
  • Water or Electric, Leona SG
  • Fire, Rem RL
  • Iron, RosCo & Sakura : BiS
  • Wind, whatever the 2B team is I guess.

Team 5 is whatever of the above is best, or SW, based on your own Nikke/investment I guess?

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Will have to see if RosCo & Sakura is consistently above the others or not, without elemental advantage

buoyant matrix
pseudo gazelle
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Petition to get more skills, less RNG everywhere and selective box to get stuff we are missing

ionic sparrow
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how else is SU going to time-gate resource and wring wallets dry?

wild karma
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nikke just had the worst revenue in the game's history maybe its not the time to demand freebies

astral mural
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Its because of clay

ionic sparrow
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it'll look better for summer if the profit difference is wider compared to Clay banner

shrewd sail
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Lets gooo MLB RosannaAliceWoke

hoary yarrow
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"We know there's a massive skill book shortage"

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"Here have 2x 10/10/10 units"

gentle jolt
hoary yarrow
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The fucking cunts actually acknowledged the book shortage and then started pumping out 10/10/10 requirement units

hexed gorge
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Must MLB

wild karma
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is your other head talking right now ?

pseudo gazelle
hexed gorge
gentle jolt
wild karma
wild karma
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just something fun to talk about nothing much

gentle jolt
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Cause they see the nice little graphic

vestal bolt
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its a good way to see trends tho

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same can be said for other games too

wild karma
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thats the thing in this case

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the data froze for nikke

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so its not a good way lol

vestal bolt
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also we knew this month was dry

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now they will top the charts

wild karma
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the difference can be staggering

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with now vs then

vestal bolt
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I tought that froze for every game because I heard it froze for ww too

wild karma
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we're actually getting what 8 banners total this month

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not for hoyo

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idk for what reason but genshin/hsr is correct

errant timber
jagged cypress
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Yeah, unless they do something really weird with her scaling, S1 isn't worth more than a 4 for anyone but whales

fringe rapids
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What kinda weird thing would that be? Is there even a chance?
For sakura maybe they can do weird thing like reduce that 10 secs extend but for rosa feels like theres gonna be nothing wrong with each skill level

jagged cypress
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2s, 3s, 4s, 6s, 8s, 9s, 11s, 12s, 13s, 15s kumikosmug

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And even if the ATK buff is small, if the duration on that is nuked enough at low levels, it'll pressure more investment for minmaxing

astral mural
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When is she out

jagged cypress
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Next week

astral mural
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Is rosanna and sakura the only new summer nikkes?

jagged cypress
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As far as we know, yes

astral mural
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What about guilty

pliant spade
quartz light
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Moran in summer 2nd part, trust

harsh tartan
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Tag line: If Moran can survive it, any dummy can!

cunning sphinx
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  • any Moron can
modern yarrow
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my urge to MLB Rosanna rises as a f2P.

gentle spindle
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just do it

jaunty lynx
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Funny enough seeing how Moran is like the one leader they beat up on they will give her a winter skin covered .

astral mural
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When is she cumming out

olive void
gentle spindle
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Rosy Ocean tomorrow? SipFrog BlancStare

gray pivot
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Tomorrow will be the actual testing on both summer units

gentle spindle
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Im sure Rosy will shine there

gray pivot
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I have high hopes on her

gentle spindle
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prayge same

astral mural
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Is shelm cumming at the same time as rosanna

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Or later

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I only have 12k gems for both

gray pivot
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Summer helm is later

harsh tartan
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Summer Helm’s not even listed in official Nikke’s questions pin

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As if she won’t even run at all

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So I figure there is a summer event part 2… maybe?

wild karma
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if SAnis got a rerun, SHelm will 100% get 1 too

spiral sleet
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we already know sanis and shelm is getting a re-run later on

fickle temple
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Re-run with the beach themed Collab medeaheh

Dead or Alive Volleyball Collab?

quaint bronze
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I hope she is not a 10-10-10 unit again. Prayge

astral mural
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They really need to rerun multiple overcocks i still need to 10-10-10 dkw

fickle temple
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I mean we have her skills

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Rosanna will be 4-4-10, 7-7-10 for high investment

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Her burst is the vast majority of her kit

versed sky
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Must be nice to save rock, she not ol needy

fickle temple
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Yeah, she deals a little bit of damage herself so I guess Elemental & ATK like Sakura, but realistically she's our first support in ages who doesn't scale on her stats whatsoever

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So no need for dupes, and no need for OL other than CP

wild karma
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a useful unit without the need of OL and dupes sound like a dream

fickle temple
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OL the headpiece to slightly buff her shitty ATK buff I guess.

But lines don't affect it so they're irrelevant.

hexed gorge
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MLB for her lobby

fickle temple
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Wow true whale behaviour

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I'll save for Collab thanks

hexed gorge
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But I'll MLB collab units too

quaint bronze
small cairn
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You all gonna OL rossana?

subtle shard
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no

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raid only supports dont usually get OL gear

small cairn
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Like her number doesn't look high that OL make difference

subtle shard
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her self dps is nothing

small cairn
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Yea, guess i wont

hexed gorge
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4/4/7 is enough for me

midnight dome
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Rosana is cheap to build

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you can skip her if you don't care about DoT team AnisShrug

hexed gorge
jaunty lynx
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Did I hear scream that must mean harran is good right COPIUM

fickle temple
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I'll OL her helmet I guess

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Get the most out of that mediocre ATK buff

gentle spindle
wild karma
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no caster attack buff = wasted OL

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unless you use her in contents that survivability matter

hexed gorge
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But is 15% for 30 secs destroying 5 parts

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I mean is ok, if you tryhard top 50 you have to spend ols in her

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I guess...

jagged cypress
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I probably won't OL, as my gear exp supply is in shambles, and I'd rather start saving for August in case the SR unit is a DPS sadsimp

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She doesn't really need any lines

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and that ATK buff is rarely going to manage to get fully stacked

gray pivot
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Ah, yea I can see that

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As well as not necessarily OL'ing her

midnight dome
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just upgrade her gears without OL

oblique forum
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Upgrade her t9m gear to 5, use it later for S.Anis PES_Okay

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That's what I will do wahahaha

shrewd sail
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Rosanna comes out today?

oblique forum
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Yes, in 3 hours

shrewd sail
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nice

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can't wait to get that mlb screen

gentle spindle
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go C7 her, ez

hexed gorge
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ti9me to cook

modern yarrow
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there already a skill recommendation levels for her? I know someone says 4,4, 7 but wanted to be sure

tribal wigeon
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am i the only one cant find rosanna banner

tiny silo
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yes

oblique forum
modern yarrow
oblique forum
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4/4/4 - 7/7/7 - 10/10/10

modern yarrow
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alright awesome thank you

oblique forum
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Some testing is undergoing right now for S.Rosanna

mystic hinge
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Wonder how well she does for pvp?

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That burst may be a game changer for pvp teams

hidden radish
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think with your dck

tribal quest
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run distributed dmg and sustained dmg in one team

hexed gorge
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ok

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i was testing only rosanna's burst

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rochic 1/1/1 blanc 4/6/10

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so now we need a healer in this cope

tribal quest
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slap helm in there

hexed gorge
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yeah, something like that

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I was thinking in something like this in her comp

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well rochica is "good general b2 no cdr"

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because damage taken in enemies

tribal quest
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my comp is doro rosa saku elegg helm yes this me cooking drugs don't worry I know

hexed gorge
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and ammo for mod

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well tbh is something good, in raids where no core midkura and rochica will shine

small cairn
hexed gorge
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full auto

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mine is 4/4/4

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4/4/7 for me is enough

versed sky
whole crane
hexed gorge
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13% ele in ssakure

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no wait

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is 13 x2

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xd

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26 ele

versed sky
brave moss
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should i ticket her?

versed sky
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pull then ticket, is 2%

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rather save ticket for pilgrim 1%

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you can ticket if u want though

gray pivot
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It's your choice after all

versed sky
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just my opinion

subtle shard
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Better than blanc noir if you don't need heals and ammo buffs

hexed gorge
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Damn bunnies will die soon

versed sky
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bunnies at the cliff almost but not at all

subtle shard
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I don't remember pinning a recommendation

vapid magnet
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Ambtabrick

native shard
chrome pivot
errant timber
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its 4/4/10

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no one cares for S1 its ass

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and who tf cares for her dmg

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you dont want to waste shit on OLing her so her dmg is gonna be bricked regardless

subtle shard
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S2 is her damage to parts buff tho

errant timber
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does it scale good

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its only 50% uptime too

subtle shard
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S1 is also 15% atk

errant timber
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so kinda meh

subtle shard
errant timber
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bruh

subtle shard
errant timber
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you’re never gonna hit that

subtle shard
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I'd say 4/7/10

errant timber
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except on kraken

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realistically its like

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3-9%

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which is fucking ass

ashen pelican
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do we have a recommended skills

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it's 4/7/10? ExuStare

errant timber
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im saying 4/4/10

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idk how her S2 scales tho

unkempt escarp
#

I say we wait for Gogogacha’s recommendations 😂

errant timber
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havent gotten her yet

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if it scales good 4/7/10

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if it scales bad 4/4/10

ashen pelican
#

dem

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my burst manuals are in danger again

unkempt escarp
ashen pelican
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so I bought it

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but still not enough

errant timber
#

insane

versed sky
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want to mlb but i have so many segs lobby

ashen pelican
#

enjoy summer fes bro

errant timber
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dont fall for the coomer bait for her dupes

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her dupes are next to useless

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only b alice’s are more useless

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(out of recent meta units)

ashen pelican
#

you don't get dupes for meta tho

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we're not in homoverse

errant timber
#

people get core 7s not for meta reasons im sure

subtle shard
#

Should you pull? / Is she good?

Yes. She is good. You should pull one copy. Dupes are purely for the mlb lobby screen.

Rosanna: Chic Ocean is a buffer. And a good one at that. Insanely flexible, can buff units better than bunnies! But not always.. read below to know more ig

Why is Rosanna good?

Well, she buffs. And she buffs good. Her direct competition is obviously with the 2 support units: Blanc and Noir, that are on the verge of being demoted to team 4/5.

There are advantages and disadvantages when running her or Bunnies:
Bunnies will be able to overshadow Rosanna when it comes to needing heals and needing ammo buffs (specifically Modernia, who will be better in bunnies).
Meanwhile, Rosanna is simply a better buffer. If you consider SSakura, she's her top 3 buffer, only lower than Tiga and Crown. But, since she can't heal, Rosanna will basically be a glorified Novel in most situations.

However, when we consider adding a healer that also buffs units, we can allow Rosanna to compete for a slot. The unit in question is none other than Helm. Rosanna + Helm seems to be a suitable combination when SSakura is in play. SSakura in her ideal situations will be able to deal massive amounts of damage, where Helm can heal the team, and modernia or scarlet can still serve as sub DPS for the team. Another use-case scenario for Rosanna is in Union Raids, where only 3 teams exist. Higher sync levels do not require healing, and hence can make use of Rosanna as a team buffer with 3 DPS, which will, on paper, perform better than bunnies!

Overall, I believe there will be enough use for Rosanna. If you're new, you'll basically be getting a whole new buffer with which you can make a team for raids. If you're an older player, you can make use of Rosanna in raids.
If you're somewhere in the middle, you can probably skip if you're not competitive in Raids.
Ultimately, Rosanna will not have a place in campaign, so keep that in mind.

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Too much text
Need to trim down

spare zealot
spare zealot
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alright

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time to tix

subtle shard
#

Yeah idk where to trim just read ig

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Don't overload her

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And uhh

ashen pelican
#

why not

errant timber
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no point

ashen pelican
#

seems a good point

subtle shard
#

Skill recommendations

1/1/1 -> 4/4/7 -> 4/4/10 -> 4~7/7/10
Starting -> Minimum -> Recommended -> High

ruby hawk
#

How about fighting againts boss with only cores, is she and SSakura still viable at this point?

errant timber
# ashen pelican seems a good point

to expand on it, she doesnt do significant dmg and her attack buff is basically non existent so theres no point trying to increase attack for an extremely minute buff

subtle shard
#

With what?

subtle shard
#

But wind weak and has boss parts

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So SSakura will be able to cook

ruby hawk
#

other than that

#

for future raids

subtle shard
#

Rosanna is a situational raid unit

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Think S tier

ashen pelican
subtle shard
#

Maybe A tier

ruby hawk
#

so basically the boss need parts to be destroyed then she's a good unit right

subtle shard
ashen pelican
#

so maybe or maybe not

subtle shard
ruby hawk
#

Ah yes, the heal part. for some bosses that hit hard, we need healer, but you said helm is good for that, so I guess one more team is locked in

ashen pelican
#

isn't leona not gud without paring mpriv

subtle shard
# ruby hawk situational? can you elaborate?

Rosanna + Helm is better than bunnies but then again, the only sub DPS you have that doesn't want to burst is Modernia

In which case bunnies will be better unless SSakura is cooking some insane damage

subtle shard
#

With mpriv Leona is basically giving a unit 55% atk
And then dealing decent dps herself

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Don't forget that Leona is a DPS herself

ashen pelican
#

hmmmmmmmmmmmm

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idk top balders used sugar instead last time

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and shelm

subtle shard
#

So you remove that for Rosanna, Rosanna needs to heave some heavy boulders since Leona's crit buffs are also meta for SGs

subtle shard
subtle shard
#

It was mPriv + SAnis

ashen pelican
#

oh yea

subtle shard
#

Investing in sugar is kinda big time dumb cuz it's an extreme use case

ashen pelican
#

it was mpriv leona sanis

subtle shard
#

Near boss + iron weak

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Most people won't do that
That's some niche for top 50 balding

ashen pelican
subtle shard
ashen pelican
#

ikr kekw

subtle shard
#

That's pure ol rolls

ashen pelican
#

many ppl will reuse invested SG team for a while so we'll see

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unless boss is too far

astral mural
#

Should i gold ticket her used all my gems and tickets with 0 ssrs

wet furnace
#

All I'm hearing is Bunnies are getting close to experation date

ashen pelican
#

pure 2b buffer comparison under normal circumstances seems like crown=jks>bunnies>=rosanna>novel

hexed gorge
#

Damn 2b still """"meta"""" in fire weak solo raid

ashen pelican
#

yea dororo team is coming to an end

hexed gorge
#

Doro, crown priv still best comp for alice

wet furnace
#

Doro will remain for CDR

hexed gorge
#

The no reload 45 hits alice

wet furnace
#

CDR transcend all as Kaido once Said

hexed gorge
#

He is doroless, he is trying to kick out her

wet furnace
#

but bunnies are reaching the point where power creep is catching up

#

naturally raw buffing will be crept before CDR

hexed gorge
#

they need Rouge to be good

wet furnace
hexed gorge
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Otherwise they are almost out

ashen pelican
hexed gorge
ashen pelican
#

that's what we call doro team in raid

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not another thing

wet furnace
#

if you go doro crown for example Doro is s tier above all of a sudden

hexed gorge
#

Doro team is now crown Alice SBS

wet furnace
ashen pelican
hexed gorge
#

Doro sanis rest in peace guys

wet furnace
#

Surely summer Crow bury Summer Anis

hexed gorge
#

TBF doro sanis was an excellent team during their days

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Electric weak raid exist....

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And pvp

wet furnace
#

tbf atp raids are getting to the point where you'll run elr advantage so yeah

hexed gorge
#

We all love PvP

wet furnace
ashen pelican
#

she isn't if you already cleared hard ch30 or don't arena at all

hexed gorge
#

Mlb

wet furnace
#

can also cope for the raid that doesn't need healer

hexed gorge
#

10/10/10

wet furnace
#

you can play her with Soda

hexed gorge
#

With mpriv*

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I know soda is the hyper carry in SG comp

ashen pelican
#

my sanis is still at 10/10/9

hexed gorge
#

but sanis buff mpriv

ashen pelican
#

and the real hypercarry in SG team is tover kekw

hexed gorge
#

Well I guess sg comp is p5 in this raid

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idk

wet furnace
hexed gorge
#

Them or snow comp

ashen pelican
#

mpriv is all time goat in elysion tower

wet furnace
ashen pelican
#

can't deny

hexed gorge
#

But kraken has a core

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So mod and xlud

mossy slate
#

what time is it now? I don't see her in recruits

ashen pelican
#

there is a weirdge bug for someone not seeing her banner still now

mossy slate
#

oh damn

ashen pelican
#

so either keep retrying or waiting for lazy devs to fix it

mossy slate
#

retrying as in restarting the game?

ashen pelican
#

it's almost 9am here so they'll notice it soon

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some guys said they can see it after deleted cash while relogging but idk

mossy slate
#

huhhhh, classic shiftup

wet furnace
#

their are no bug's in Ba Sing Se

ashen pelican
#

seems like there is a high chance of getting bug in any forms whenever we get banners starting right after daily reset

wet furnace
#

no bugs in Ba Sing Se

buoyant matrix
opaque pond
#

Nah, some veterans already pulled sanis and shelm last time

buoyant matrix
quartz light
#

How is rossoc

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Is she meta BlancStare

gentle spindle
gentle spindle
acoustic valley
#

summer helm vs srosanna?

quartz light
#

Helm cause she always remember shikicum in other world

gentle spindle
#

but which Helm you guys mean?

fickle temple
static turret
fickle temple
#

No, base

gentle spindle
fickle temple
#

She brings the heals

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Lol

static turret
fickle temple
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Summer Helm doesn't heal

#

So if they're suggesting helm specifically for heals

#

It's base

static turret
#

wait let me read

gray pivot
#

SHelm does CDR

#

Normal helm is B3 and heals

static turret
#

true

#

i guess it's base helm

quaint bronze
#

Shelm will be used only in iron weak raid. PepeShrug

fickle temple
#

They're suggesting B1 CDR/Rosco/SSakura/Base Helm/B3 Flex

static turret
#

Summer sakura won't burst?

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hmmmmmmm

fickle temple
#

40s cooldown you alternate SSakura and Helm

static turret
#

true

#

I guess time to invest on helm BUTTSsign

#

gonna try it myself.

fickle temple
#

Maybe I can dust off my helm who I OL'd back in the day lol

#

I think I might have skill reset her tho

static turret
#

actually looks good on paper.

#

I'm lacking tetra gears so, I wont be able to climb this raid :/ damn abnormal gears.

fickle temple
#

Liter/Rosco/Summer Sakura/Helm/Modernia should do well for a wind weak boss yeah

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Rosco doesn't need OL at least

#

She's Liter tier in terms of low investment

#

Rarely do we get a support whose stats just don't matter

static turret
#

I got her max OL it's just the tetra attacker rarely comes for me.

fickle temple
#

Lol

#

Always the way

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I'm glad I never OL'd Noir so was able to give her gear to Sakura

static turret
#

I only invested on Alice and Ludmilla lmao.

unborn cargo
#

I OL her on my friend's acc

#

he lacks XAnne

#

so Rosanna is a must

gentle spindle
#

waos

unreal heart
#

Got her in 10. Hope she stays within team 3-4

midnight dome
#

My Rosanna looks strange...

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100 pulls, two trash SSR

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no Chic... wtf?

#

150 pulls, no Chic, I just straight up bought her.

tidal hollow
#

Somehow Roschic is harsh on the pull. 10 multi no SSR, had to ticket. She better be good sadge

midnight dome
#

yeah, 150 pulls, that rate worst than Pilgrim's banner

ashen pelican
#

no ssr in 100 pull isn't that rare sadly

unborn cargo
midnight dome
ashen pelican
#

I got 0 clay in 170 pulls so I just bought

midnight dome
#

I skipped Clay so

ivory grail
#

I just bought single copy

midnight dome
wild karma
#

100 pulls for 1 copy, no ssr

#

nice game

quaint bronze
#

Best team for Sakura+Rosana?

midnight dome
#

any

harsh tartan
subtle shard
harsh tartan
#

Sakura and Rosanna are assault rifle users, and neither does anything special with ammo. They just want to stack damage output. So basically there’s no gimmick for them besides sustained damage.

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So there’s no easy gimmick comp to throw them into

midnight dome
#

B1Cdr with two flex

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you can skip healer if you like Dark Soul

harsh tartan
#

Volume, Rosanna, Sakura, Helm, Modernia would be fine for a “whatever, screw it” team

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Rosanna debuffs enemy dmg taken, helps everyone. Buffs part dmg dealt. Helps everyone unless no parts target

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Volume just to squeeze Modernia into there and still have CDR unless I forgot another B1 CDR that’s free

#

This comp or something like it was already mentioned by Modernia’s Royal Aide somewhere long ago pepehmmm

quaint bronze
#

Hard choice to get B1cdr for this team

midnight dome
#

Not really

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Liter is the best candidate as she buff atk, mean more DoT

harsh tartan
#

Novel is dead for good though, right?

midnight dome
#

nope, SW comp

harsh tartan
#

Summer Rosanna murdered her in a dark alley Kek_dog

midnight dome
#

unless you can somehow duplicate Chic Ocean for both team

unborn cargo
#

to be fair

midnight dome
unborn cargo
#

if you built your Novel

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you could replace Rosanna here

#

shouldn't change anything

#

30% dmg up over 10s vs 60% dmg up over 5s

midnight dome
#

yeah, but if a Raid need both Chic+ SBIS comp and SW comp

unborn cargo
#

it's the same on DPS type

harsh tartan
#

To nitpick there’s 1 minor detail that might matter

midnight dome
#

you need novel

fickle temple
#

Isn't Novel Defense down?

harsh tartan
#

Novel’s Defender with a SMG, which means Helm has a harder time keeping her alive

midnight dome
#

so just leave the detective alone for now

fickle temple
#

Instead of damage taken?

unborn cargo
#

read

harsh tartan
#

Edited it to say “harder” since technically Helm can actually keep Novel alive despite that

quaint bronze
#

Why not dorothy with sakura btw. Have damage up to parts as well

midnight dome
#

It doesn't matter AnisShrug

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you can use Volune

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or Dolla

#

Dorothy is ok, but that waste her dps potential

#

Dorothy have her own comp to get peak dps

unborn cargo
#

your peak may need to take a peek

midnight dome
#

you only need one NIKKE for cdr SolineSippy

white gale
midnight dome
#

last ammo team, usually yeah

white gale
#

Who else in that comp? Planning to get sanis soon

midnight dome
#

Dorothy/Sanis/(privaty skip when Sanis burst reach lv 9)/flex/flex

harsh tartan
#

I forgot what the electric comp with S.Anis is

white gale
#

Thanks much! Who are the usual good in flex spots for this team?

harsh tartan
#

I remember this team getting some leftovers in solo raids unless it was electric-weak, something like B1, B2, S.Anis, Scarlet, Flex, just because S.Anis would buff Scarlet. I remember there was even using Biscuit in this comp

midnight dome
#

^

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Sanis comp usually have 2 flex slot

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Biscuit for raids that need to take cover many times

harsh tartan
#

If you had Exia treasure, maybe it could be Exia, Biscuit, S.Anis, Scarlet, Dolla

#

But that should be a long ways off for you if not

#

It’s also a harsh comp relying on Biscuit for heals/cover-rebuild

midnight dome
#

Sanis is fine by herself, worth to build though

#

and Dorothy can be used with Chic+Sakura like I said

vestal bolt
#

the thing is sbs and alice can get all the buffs they need from crown

#

so you can make space to run doro

#

but you can't make enough space for mg's or dot's to not run liter atm imo

midnight dome
#

well, just wait 2 days until we can properly test the comp

#

too bad SBS not sync with Chic and Sakura

vestal bolt
#

I mean if the dot team is bad, the sg will take its place right

subtle shard
#

Tbh if I'm being honest, Rosanna is a decent addition

#

She's a very cheap team 5 compared to the hell you have to go through with on snowwhite and SG teams

#

Tiga and crown are always in

#

So that's 3 teams left, where we have:

  • bunnies
  • Rem
  • Rosanna + Healer
  • SW
  • SG
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Anything I'm missing? Think

vestal bolt
#

rem kekw

subtle shard
vestal bolt
#

we might kick out bunnies this raid

#

no cap

subtle shard
fickle temple
#

Rem needs another good B3 RL other than Emilia to give her

#

Preferably two others

subtle shard
fickle temple
#

Maybe when next Collab gives us yet another B3 attacker RL

#

For the fourth time in a row

vestal bolt
#

no way we kick out sw yet, she is too broken

subtle shard
#

Yeah except she's infinitely harder to use for the general public

vestal bolt
#

yes

subtle shard
#

I expect only the top 0.5% to properly use SW

#

Otherwise they don't even line up shots with yulha probably, in which case you go with Rosanna + Helm over SW

vestal bolt
#

in the case of running both

#

how do we heal both teams

subtle shard
#

Well, there's noise for SW team I guess

#

I'm not quite sure yet

hexed gorge
#

I was top 200 using bad snow white

midnight dome
#

SHE WILL NUKE!

vestal bolt
wet furnace
#

Hero belong in T1

#

don't comeback when Laplace out dps SW and Rh

obsidian ravine
#

Treasure Laplace is a good B3 for rem team I suppose. Although this raid is a bit harder to fit in that team if I want to keep Doro last bullet team.

hexed gorge
#

Midplace

#

Nah, maybe she goes in frima rem team

subtle shard
wet furnace
#

Yeah i realized i misread everything

#

gotta commit to my error though

hexed gorge
#

Like snake reading FIRE team

subtle shard
#

SW is not a support structure but the whole team is built around her

hexed gorge
subtle shard
hexed gorge
lilac fiber
midnight dome
#

Fictional chic is more clean heh

#

unless you don't use your ding-dong on her

unborn cargo
#

I can have a chic in real life a night for only 50$ max anisBruh

quartz light
#

nice char, where skill mat

midnight dome
#

except when you visit a school, they are free to taken heh

quartz light
#

so need to roll helm if pull rosanna?

midnight dome
#

uhm no

#

they have no relationship whatsoever

#

any healer is fine

quartz light
#

okay

midnight dome
#

or not healer at all

fickle temple
quartz light
fickle temple
#

She also doesn't taunt/invul/self-heal like Crown does, so the lack of healer in either B1/B2 slots is more significant for her.

#

Crown has the same issue but can often get away without one, especially if not much AoE damage

lilac fiber
#

I need someone to help me soothe this heartache after failed to pull Roschic in 40 pulls Copium

quartz light
#

hmm healer, i'd rather use rapunzel or noise

#

cause they're already raised

#

and lack skillmat

#

i still dont have sanis yet

#

or maybe summer 2 have even more meta chars

midnight dome
#

and my heart is still beating

unborn cargo
astral mural
gentle spindle
gentle spindle
#

Rosy Ocean excellent buffer

#

10-10-10 100%

hexed gorge
#

I thought that we were doing the Rapunzel lick chain YotsuTeeHee

gentle spindle
#

Then Modernia would act

ember palm
midnight dome
errant timber
unborn prairie
#

what there's collab soon?! Fak, 100 pulls left on me.

harsh tartan
#

I half expect the pickup banners for the collab to be Dave and Bancho

lyric lynx
#

She is no need for OL gear, right?

gray pivot
#

Nope, no OL necessary

ruby crescent
#

sweats profusely

unborn cargo
#

OL is highly required

#

to be used in PVP

#

doesn't need any specific line, but best with 4x charge speed

#

and then, Element

#

I will verify zixk clip this weekend, but if we can confirm charge speed is shared among Nikkes

#

then CS is the best line for all supports in PVP

errant timber
ruby crescent
versed sky
#

DAAAMN cs on rochico must be insane

errant timber
#

also this is the SRos thread

ruby crescent
#

Yeah

errant timber
#

im assuming he meant another nikke

#

like…

ruby crescent
#

Laplace?

unborn cargo
#

no

#

I mean Rosanna

#

you want to OL her to use in PVP

errant timber
unborn cargo
#

if you need a buffer

#

and the best OL line for her is CHARGE SPEED

#

which she doesn't use

#

but all other RL, SR on her team

ruby crescent
unborn cargo
#

will use that

errant timber
#

units in pvp share charge speed?

unborn cargo
errant timber
unborn cargo
#

only from OL

errant timber
#

what the actual fuck

ruby crescent
errant timber
#

thats gotta be a bug right

unborn cargo
#

I verified a lot that Emilia doesn't give her S1 to everyone

errant timber
#

that shit makes no sense

#

doesnt sound right though

#

between my red hood and scalter on my pvp team it should be around 20% cs

#

and theres no shot that pvp team has everyone at that speed

unborn cargo
#

it shares in a different way

#

not directly add 20% to everyone

errant timber
#

how does it share then

obsidian ravine
#

That does sound like something to be patched out eventually deadge

errant timber
#

its clearly a bug

#

i dont see the point of building around a bug

#

i also dk why you’d want to try to force SRos in pvp

#

sure she’d buff a lot but theres a LOT of B2s for pvp

unborn cargo
#

yeah, name me

#

you have 3 teams

#

do it

#

for your reference

#

now show me the B2 which are so great hurr durr for PVP

#

only need burst 5

#

she's pretty cheap

#

Rosanna will need more

lime fern
#

Rochico B3 needs lvl10 to get 32% while Blanc only needs lvl7 to get 32% AdmiOno

unborn cargo
#

yep

fickle temple
#

Rochico doesn't need the dead weight that is Noir tho

unreal heart
#

but noir gives ammo and atk too

fickle temple
#

14% of caster's ATK, whoop de doo

#

The moment Rouge drops Noir is gonna plummet in the tierlist mark my words

hexed gorge
#

Noir to A

#

If Rouge is ok

fringe rapids
#

Doubt they will seperate the bunnies tbh
Bet they just make rouge b2 that need to burst with 2 skill that only activate when bursting lmao
If they ever release her but shes gonna be in npc jail forever by the look of it

fickle temple
#

Nah Bunnies are falling further behind every SR

#

Swapping Noir for a better kit in the form of Rouge is the buff bunnies need to stay meta

jagged cypress
#

Lack of burst gen is a big pitfall for bunnies

#

Fine if Maxwell is in, but the double MG/SMG + MG setups actually waste cdr

fickle temple
#

Rouge could literally just be a RL and she'd be competitive to replace Noir for

#

Skills and burst irrelevant

subtle shard
hexed gorge
#

Invest your ols in pvp guys

#

I'm not joking

hexed gorge
#

Top 30 global recruiting ahahahhaha

ruby crescent
#

Bro is cooking right now

hexed gorge
errant timber
#

i have noah + biscuit +centi on one team

#

blanc

#

xanne

gentle spindle
errant timber
#

i mean centi is still something

harsh tartan
#

Came here to enjoy Chic Ocean chatter. Came away sweating over that in PvP, charge speed from OL might be shared with team in someway PepeShoot

#

PvP ruleset is a joke of a heap of garbage

gentle spindle
hexed gorge
ruby crescent
hexed gorge
#

Bro don't have nitro

ruby crescent
dusty bane
opaque pond
gray pivot
#

Same. I just max lv all my t9m gear for SRosanna

midnight dome
gentle spindle
hexed gorge
gentle spindle
#

Uwu

deft geyser
#

10479 SI boxes

#

please fix it

hexed gorge
#

I don't need t9 manufac

deft geyser
#

just make it a multiple of 20

gentle spindle
small cairn
#

They should let us exchange that box for rock, i dont need that box anymore

hexed gorge
#

10 box x 1 rock

harsh tartan
#

That’s over 50 T9Ms hoarded…

ruby crescent
hollow shale
#

Should I pull if I don't have either of the duos or crown?

#

Having to us between centi/yuni and idk when I would pull a noir for my blanc

fickle temple
#

One copy, yes

#

She's roughly equivalent to bunny duo. Only Crown & JK I'd say are consistently better options.

hollow shale
#

Hmm alright 👍

#

Hopefully don't end up shafting my collab savings

#

36 pulls 🙏

dawn jewel
#

Time to read

wheat wharf
#

so basically she buffs Sakura and Bready?