[Sakura: Bloom In Summer] New Unit Megathread

[worn dock]

too many tetra units

[fleet berry]

I already blew my manuals on other units, please don't say 10/10/10 for this one

[placid field]

7 months of playing and i only have one complete tetra attack set for alice

insane

pissing me off sometime

[stuck aurora]

You have a complete set?!

damn I still missing the leg peice for 6 months now

[lapis bane]

4/10/10 it is

She is strong on vanilla, and only get better with more part

[distant barn]

Is she a 1 copy unit or mlb unit

[mint badge]

S.Mary worth grabbing these days? I skipped her last year and regretted not getting a good healer for Solo Raid at the time

[sweet wedge]

i mean that's what she does best, if you want a solid back up healer then just grab one copy if resources allow it

[lapis bane]

Sakura burst can't be taunted

it requires roughly 1s to blow all 10 hits

[safe iris]

Does it benefit from fbm multi then?

[dim sun]

Is she good in pvp

[lapis bane]

dunno, I just analyze from Mimi clip

Rroar clip doesn't have burst dmg for w/e reason

[hot mauve]

I still have 2 attempts left

[lapis bane]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1076238531371991181/1258227691191144488/Screen_Recording_20240704_083443_NIKKE.mp4?ex=6687475a&is=6685f5da&hm=c85e5127fc27a62f88ce5d9314ad99912b35a36919b06715fa3b7e4a6c2059de&

4/7/7

look how she chewed alive other 4

[hot mauve]

Damn..

[dim sun]

So sakura > rosanna

[lapis bane]

isn't it obvious

[dim sun]

I'm just stating it

[safe iris]

Rosanna got bigger booba tho

[dim sun]

Sakura is cuter tho

[small quiver]

if Noah blocked it would that team still won?

[lapis bane]

I roll everything

[small quiver]

He just won the burst gen right?

cause fucking Tia delay

[lapis bane]

oh something I haven't tested

if Noah blocks the first dmg

will the DoT go through?

oh nvm

[dim sun]

Need to update this goddamn game first

[lapis bane]

it doesn't

[hot mauve]

oh

[lapis bane]

Zixk confirmed

so Noah is still her counter, which is fair

huh or may be I understand it wrongly

@hot mauve fight someone with Noah

[hot mauve]

But what if she already applied the DoT before the shield goes up?

[lapis bane]

let's see if the DoT exists after 3s immune

[hot mauve]

Aight wait, Imma look for someone with Noah

[dim sun]

Me when I noah biscuit and win

[lapis bane]

her burst is untauntable

so I don't know what Biscuit does there

but okay

[dim sun]

Yeah but the invinci

[dim sun]

The sustained damGe

Doesn't it apply?

[lapis bane]

asking Mimi to test

see if even when Noah's shield blocks the first dmg

will DoT still happen after that

[hot mauve]

https://youtu.be/cbL1PqnReks

@lapis bane

I assume that the DoT went through, considering the damage

Oh, S. Anis ate most of the damage

[dim sun]

Pretty sure cuz of s2

But well

I think dot was going through

[lapis bane]

yeah

look at biscuit

Sanis took S2

but Biscuit still had 130k dmg per sec

so yeah, the DoT still slips through

[small quiver]

Sad that team still cant survive the sustain

[sacred flower]

just checked the banner. They're not giving us lucky spooks like the last christmas event?

instead they choose to run different banners

[lapis bane]

because her DoT is not that impressive

it's just a follow up

the nuke is like Maiden, with cherry on top is DoT

[distant barn]

What equips?

[lapis bane]

4 OL, Gloves and Helm +3

[sacred flower]

I'm waiting for analysis on how her damage is if she's taken vs a boss with no parts

[fleet berry]

so how does that burst works? the big damage goes around the team hitting all of them sequentially 10 times (so if there's 5 units, each of them gets hit twice)?

and once someone gets hit, they got a small DOT damage for 10 seconds? This also stacks up to 10 times (so if there's one unit left, they get 10 DOT instances, each instance lasting for 10 seconds?)

[inland pecan]

So the Nuke is 457% hitting 10 times?

Ow

[lapis bane]

that's 1 target

PVP has how many Nikkes?

[inland pecan]

?

I’m not making the connection

Weren’t you just now viewing videos of Summer Sakura in PvP?

And she was sweeping the enemies?

[lapis bane]

yeah, that 10 hits are distributed randomly among 5 enemies

[inland pecan]

Still, RNG

Gotta pray 3 of them don’t stack on one Also because the nuke is sequential, it avoids overkill I think

So if it was going 10 on one, if it died in 3, it finds others for the remaining 7?

[lapis bane]

I had a streak where I landed 8 lost and martingale killed me

so I guess, anything is possible

[hot mauve]

xAnne giving them lifesteal is painful

[inland pecan]

Still, besides that, originally I thought the 457% wouldn’t be the x10 hits

I thought it was describing only the DoT part 💀

[hot mauve]

what's the recommended investment again?

4-10-10?

[lapis bane]

does her S1 gain more time with level?

or fix 10s?

I may need to fix my sheet structure later

[hot mauve]

it gains more time per level

10 secs max

[dim sun]

20 pulls

ez

[cedar forge]

congrats

[lapis bane]

10 pull, look at this noob

[dim sun]

1/1/1 -> 4/4/4 -> 7/7/7 -> 10/10/10

Why?
The duration increase is affected in s1

scales with level

Skill investments
1/1/1 -> 4/4/4 -> 7/7/7 -> 7/10/10
Starting -> Minimum -> f2p Recommended -> High

Overload recs

• 4× Elemental Damage
• 4× ATK

[hot mauve]

Aight, thanks

[mental geyser]

S1>S2 or the other way?

[dim sun]

S2 > S1

[mental geyser]

thanks

[inland pecan]

A 10/10/10 character 💀

[modern dagger]

It's fine Rosco is 4/4/10

Woops didn't mean to reply lol

4/7/10 at best, if the lvl1 parts damage is truly shit

[inland pecan]

190 for my first Summer Sakura. Want the remaining share of bad luck?

You know you want it

[dim sun]

I'll take it in Rosanna

[fleet berry]

you're killing me here snake, at this rate rosco will also be 10/10/10

[modern dagger]

No way Rosco is 10/10/10

S1 is trash

[inland pecan]

Actually it’s three 10/10/10s. Summer Sakura, Summer Rosanna, and Treasure Viper

Suffer

I’m just kidding, hopefully they are kinder on skill investments

[modern dagger]

Well, DPS are often 10/10/10

Not surprising for a B3 attacker

[fleet berry]

@dim sun Is she more for wind weak bosses or just bosses in general (with parts?)

[dim sun]

She's ideal for wind weak, parts or not

But on non ele favoured, she can be beaten

And rested

For example if SW is cooking and tove is cooking

Sakura benched

[fleet berry]

then I'll probably just 7/7/7 her then

way too expensive to all 10 her

[dim sun]

Cuz then we have the combos of

Rh xlud Alice SBS
As set in stone

And then the remaining spots can be
Maxwell, mod, SAnis, sakura, scarlet, rem, and whatnot

So lots of competition

Maybe even 2b

[fleet berry]

nooo let 2b die already, I already reset her and I don't wanna build her back up

[golden mauve]

Do I spark?

I need a bit more and haven't gotten her, and she seems good

[dim sun]

Pins

[golden mauve]

Guess I'm sparking

Thx

Reread it to make sure

[short anchor]

When you try to MLB SBIS... but get 5 Pilgrims and only 1 SBIS

[hot mauve]

You guys are getting Pilgrims?

[short anchor]

Pilgrims rate up higher, only behind SBIS

[golden mauve]

I got Scarlet before I sparked lol

[balmy shale]

I got another Noah and Rapu before MLB

[short anchor]

Well, so summer banners worth to pull

even if you don't get rate up, you will have a higher chance to get Pilgrims

which more than half are meta

[modest parcel]

the pilgrim rate is the same as it usually is..

[short anchor]

really?

I didn't notice

[modest parcel]

the pilgrim rate literally never changes

even on pilgrim banners

its still always .5% for pool pilgrims

you just have a 1% rate up pilgrim instead of a 2% rate up nikke

[woeful totem]

Mkb

Lobby reasons

[mortal cloud]

Who benefits more from OL gear: summer sakura or noir?

[modern dagger]

Summer Sakura because she actually deals damage and uses her burst

Noir is a glorified Blanc burst reducer

[mortal cloud]

Thank you

[weak ether]

4/4/4 full ol cant even tickle shiet Sadge

[lapis bane]

[balmy beacon]

10/10/10 and come back

[weak ether]

its ok wallpaper gang

[balmy beacon]

guys mod is mid and sakura is the new mod

[woeful totem]

Yeah wallpaper gang

[inland pecan]

I removed Modernia from lobby for Summer Sakura. My eyes welcome the new visual feast meta

[placid field]

should 10/10/9 sanis first or sakura

only enough for 1, barely enough for 10/10/9 when i get her

[fast locust]

she good?

yes or no.

[lapis bane]

https://arca.live/b/nikketgv/110392936?category=정보&p=1

burst explanation

sequence won't have FB

• Sequence of 10 hits take 2.2s (0.22s per hit)
• During 10s FB, you can only deal 8 ticks of DoT. 2 last ticks are dealt off burst so it loses most buffs.

[fast locust]

so is it good?...i literally dont know anything.

nvm...

[lapis bane]

oh I didn't answer you

just info dump for our guide later

[balmy beacon]

check pins

[fast locust]

alright, ill just wait for Rosanna then.

i already got one copy.

[deep canyon]

is dot dmg updated in real time?

[lapis bane]

https://arca.live/b/nikketgv/110393568?category=정보&p=1

yes

[deep canyon]

thanks

[lapis bane]

dot is updated real time

[hot mauve]

Not bad I guess for mid investments

[balmy beacon]

lmao 5/7/7 no ol against iron weak boss

the game really needs to give me some tetra gears, Ican't take it anymore

[woeful totem]

No full t9 manufacturing for Sakura either

I feel you bro

[hot mauve]

https://tenor.com/view/umm-um-ummm-ummok-puppet-gif-17038634

[narrow bobcat]

Is this considered bad orrr?😅

[balmy beacon]

that is considered poor player

[narrow bobcat]

Is she worth pulling tho

[balmy beacon]

I would say wait a week to see how they work with rosana too

all results will be skewed until we get the 2nd piece of the puzzle

[sacred flower]

I ain't rollin' for both of them, don't like the criminal girls enough

maybe one between two. Or I can just invest into guilty instead

[short anchor]

but Guilty is a criminal girl

[narrow bobcat]

Sakura so hot😭😭😭

[narrow bobcat]

How long has it been since release?

[balmy beacon]

not even a day

[narrow bobcat]

DAMN IT😭😭😭

[balmy beacon]

if you want to see some early testing check skys vid

but yk its still early

[narrow bobcat]

Oooooh alright

[narrow bobcat]

Yeahh agree

So many contents

[worn dock]

yo @neat canopy @lapis bane you cooking SBIS for pvp?

it'd be funny if the dot triggers scarlet's s2 or jackal feed

[neat canopy]

him idk

as for me im testing

[neat canopy]

yes

[hot mauve]

Btw, DoT is treated as a debuff right?

[south knoll]

So does her skill generate energy?

[neat canopy]

yes but only a little

*s2

[hot mauve]

I dunno..

[neat canopy]

alrd did some tests

[hot mauve]

ooh

[hot mauve]

How does it compare with Harran's DoT?

[neat canopy]

not sure

idr

[hot mauve]

Oh ok, it does generate some burst meter

just a little

https://tenor.com/view/ehe-anime-gif-anime-girl-teehee-gif-27178660

[modern dagger]

RL with sustain damage never

[woeful totem]

ok

sakura shit ols, 0/0/0/0 core 1 7/7/7

xlud 25 atk% 5/5/5/0 core 1 10/7/10

modernia 38% atk 5/5/5/0 lb0 10/10/4

neutral

no parts, auto

shit union boss

sakura vs wind weak

ols x2 def, x1 ele 13%, charge speec and charge dmg xd

[balmy beacon]

from what I see if we can break 1 part every 20-30 seconds

she is at mod level

[woeful totem]

yep

shooting range boss is a meme anyway xd

realistic bosses have parts and they normally regenerate those parts

[sacred flower]

shooting range boss HEAVILY inflates clud and mod

because it has 100% exposed core, which is nasty for MGs

in real scenarios they won't work as well because SR bosses don't have exposed cores these days

[random crypt]

Liter is not a good pair with her

[sacred flower]

that also, because lmao 5s buffs

[deep canyon]

liter bad

[wet hamlet]

Witch cube is better for her?

[woeful totem]

so doro or something like miranda?

[inland pecan]

Probably the usual, Resilience/Bastion

She has no last bullet mechanic, no bullet count mechanic, just smash

So very cube-flexible, she’s mostly reliant on her burst for a lot of her overall damage, you can even stick Assault cube on her if you’re sure she wouldn’t be in reload hell at important moments of the fight

[wet hamlet]

Thx you

[inland pecan]

@lapis bane info dump lord, can sustained damage crit?

[lapis bane]

can I trigger yellow arrow in fishing

[inland pecan]

I didn’t fish yet and am in danger of doing no fishing before daily reset

So I have no clue what the yellow arrow means, do you trigger it all the time?

[wet hamlet]

Fishing on mobile kill me

[inland pecan]

Sounds like a no

[woeful totem]

Fishing in pc kill me

[balmy beacon]

lies

[woeful totem]

Miranda

[balmy shale]

Honestly not unrealistic since Sakura's ideal conditions are SW's worst conditions

I don't see them being likely to run in the same raids

Kraken's possible if they leave its core alone, though

(I have a feeling they'll pull a Wind Bringer to indirectly buff Sakura)

[random crypt]

Sakuras ideal condition is SW's ideal condition

SW's ideal condition may not be Sakura's

[placid field]

alright real question, sg or sustain team. Really hard to decide who to build cause we don't know what shift up cooking in raid

one use in raid and they're not usuable anymore afterward

[woeful totem]

sg is better I think

but you have to build the whole team at leastv minimum investment

[dapper mason]

should i really pull summer sakura

[random crypt]

Yes

[desert sleet]

guys I'm new to game

Do I pull sakura?

I just finished my rerolling session

[mortal plover]

Is there really a difference between SG and elemental weakness DPSs? SG isn't useful at all on certain Solo Raid (or UR) bosses in the same way that you might want XLudmilla over Modernia or Drunk Scarlet over using RH as a DPS.

Having flexible elemental advantage seems to be the way things are going.

[inland pecan]

I am now Master of the Yellow Arrow

Though it seems Magic Keyboard has a bug with the minigame where if you try to rapid press same direction, the second press doesn’t take

So I’m sad anytime I see normal arrow followed by yellow arrow of same direction

[tribal cliff]

So how well she does at your job as main DPS?

I have adv tickets left and gems to MLB her if she surpasses normal scarlet or on par on scarlet black.

[tribal cliff]

She's limited, and a perfect wife why are you even asking that. She's a must pull but the real question is, is she a must MLB?

[random crypt]

Nah, Sakura most likely

The OG Sakura

[hot mauve]

If Sakura melts your team in Arena, use Cocoa or Ade

[placid field]

most people wont even think of using cocoa or ade

[grave fractal]

i can confirm it

[balmy shale]

Sakura doesn't want cores

SW does

[lapis bane]

Sakura wants enemies as small as Lure

as far as them too

[silent wind]

Lmao, can confirm, got Noah's dupes

This is not Sakura's banner but Pilgrim's

[hot mauve]

Speaking of Noah, her shield ain't that impenetrable after all

[narrow bobcat]

Youre absolutely right.. i should just get executed for saying that.

[placid field]

i wonder if i made a mistake mlbing ssakura

[desert sleet]

Same girl in pfp?

https://tenor.com/view/spice-and-wolf-spice-and-wolf-remake-spice-and-wolf-2024-holo-korbo-gif-17828235424199105160

[woeful totem]

Yup

[silent wind]

Raphtalia?

[slate basin]

Ok so seems like an easy pass then.

[narrow bobcat]

Best team comps for summer sakura rn?

[modern dagger]

Generic best team for anyone applies as usual

Liter/Crown/RH/Summer Sakura/Modernia

For SR she'll likely end up as something like:

Volume/Rosco/Sakura/XLud/Healer

[lapis bane]

why Xlud here?

[modern dagger]

First team 4/5 tier B3 who came to mind

[balmy shale]

X Lud is usually with RH

[lapis bane]

^

she's stronger than Mod and you throw her team 4/5

I guess everyone has their own choices

[balmy shale]

I can't remember a raid when X Lud has been 4/5

[modern dagger]

Guess I've been underestimating her

[balmy shale]

GD depending on people's investment could've been that low, but otherwise (since Maxwell was more often with RH)

[modern dagger]

Well, my questionable B3 choice aside (I've been putting Maxwell with RH), I don't think there's an existing B3 who particularly benefits from Rosco since nobody else has sustain (ignoring Harran).

So it's gonna be whatever B3 is remaining by the time you reach team 4/5 I guess

[balmy shale]

Bunnies team is in a weird place this raid, so we'll have to see what happens with that

[modern dagger]

Bunnies bring the wind for any interrupt circles at least

[balmy shale]

• Doro/Crown/SBS/Alice/Priv
• Tia/DKW/Naga/RH/X Lud
• Liter/Blanc/Maxwell/Noir/Modernia
• Volume/Rosanna/Sakura/???/???
• Miranda/Dolla/Helm/SW/Yulha OR Tove/Guilty/B Soda/M Priv/Leona or B Alice

Could be a possible layout to start

[modern dagger]

Whether we need a wind in every team will make a big difference

Because would mean either splitting Rosco and Sakura, or taking a mid wind unit like Dolla/Guilty

Iirc we only have 4 teams worth of actually meta wind units

[balmy shale]

Oh wait, derp, usual RH team won't work cuz no Wind

Maybe she'll snag D

[modern dagger]

Yeah I think I checked before and wind teams end up being:

• Summer duo
• Bunnies
• SBS
• Volume cope that she can handle circles
• Dolla, Pepper, Guilty, or Xmas Anne cope

Does Diesel's treasure make her viable for SR? Lol

[balmy shale]

May end up using Dorovity with Sakura

• DKW/Crown/SBS/Alice/B Alice or Rapu
• Tia/Volume/Naga/RH/X Lud
• Liter/Blanc/D/Noir/Modernia
• Dorothy/Rosanna/Sakura/Maxwell/Privaty
• SW comp (Dolla) or SG comp (Guilty variant)

[modern dagger]

Yeah splitting the summer duo may end up being necessary just for wind

Give Sakura to Doro/S.Anis/Priv team

[balmy shale]

Don't even need to split them for Dorovity use potentially

[modern dagger]

Give Rosco to team 5 and call it a day

If don't split then you don't have a healer, which may or may not be viable

[balmy shale]

Yeah, we'll have to see

The raid description sort of implies we won't need a healer, but never know

[modern dagger]

But if we don't split we once again have to pick from the low tier options

For team 5

Dolla supremacy lol

[balmy shale]

Raid QTEs are usually weak, so Dolla will do fine

[modern dagger]

Xmas Anne instead of Poli for SW team?

Wait is Anne 60 or 40 sec

[balmy shale]

60

[modern dagger]

Lol

[balmy shale]

Also why not just stick Guilty in instead of Poli

I think it's safe to assume S Sakura's going to end up T3 or lower, at the very least, so it's probably too early to worry about team comp

Just save investment resources until Challenge Mode starts and watch the top folks

let foolish people like me overinvest and don't repeat those mistakes

[mortal plover]

Assuming the circles are the same as regular Kraken, we don’t want shotguns or RL’s.

The gray circles around the interrupts were super fragile.

[balmy shale]

Yeaaah

[mortal plover]

People became experts at failing the QTEs in coop. We’ll see how they do when they actually have to play it.

[woeful totem]

insert chime-kisama video

[cedar forge]

Will Summer Sakura and Rosanna just be niche units only for this raid just because tentacles of Kraken are generating continuously

I clearly prefer consistent units that you can take at every SR

[open topaz]

a2 flashbacks

[cedar forge]

yes and where are Rem and Emilia today?

[balmy shale]

Rosanna's burst will make her an easy to use unit for any raid

[cedar forge]

At least Emilia is usefull for PVP

[balmy shale]

Rem will be back every water raid

just as 2B is back every fire raid

[woeful totem]

2b xd

[cedar forge]

yes but SBS, Alice, Modernia, bunnies ...are back every raids
If we were getting enough skill mats no problem I will build every elemental units

[cedar forge]

will see

[balmy shale]

Pilgrims being repeatedly used characters is practically a given

[shrewd jewel]

ngl i reset my 2b

[balmy shale]

I reset her then invested again for last UR

[cedar forge]

lol she is on the bench at 1/1/1 at sync lvl 1

[shrewd jewel]

but realistically i have used rem in UR and considered her in SR

so its not like shes not relevant people just dont think to try it and stick with regulars

[dim sun]

@balmy shale u invest in sakura yet?

[hazy vessel]

I'm still waiting on rocks

5 s Sakura for 218 pulls isn't a bad deal considering I kneecapped my pulls for two months

[balmy shale]

7/7/7 with +3/+0/+0/+0 OLs right now

Really low on gear exp

[modest parcel]

same

i need gear exp more than rocks for her rn

[balmy shale]

Waiting to do higher skills until Rosanna's out

[dim sun]

Im in pain this time around

no more tetra attacker gear

[modest parcel]

i have shit tons of it except boots

only 2 boots ever

xlud yoinked one

probably gonna steal noirs and put it on SKura

[balmy shale]

I'm getting low on Tetra Attacker gear, yeah

SI Chatterbox before I forget (higher B3 bursts first)

[modest parcel]

i did napkin math before release and assuming SKura has her S2 always up she does ~56% of Scalter dmg for one burst on each

just multiplier wise

though i calced it with alice cs buff so

and scalter has way more self buffs so its gonna favor her a lot

might be a bit closer in reality, not sure

[balmy shale]

Yeah, SBS will undoubtedly wreck S Sakura when she's with Alice

Expecting Sakura to keep up with SBS in the first place is a mistake As long as she deals a comparable ratio, I'm happy

[modest parcel]

oh yeah for sure

im not expecting that

but she’s probably around 60-70% of her dmg when you factor attack buffs since they’ll scale harder on her

which is pretty solid

[balmy shale]

Yup yup

[mortal plover]

If she is as good or situationally better than Drunk Scarlet, she’s keeping up with the shift to elemental specialty team slots.

[trail glen]

do I put her with dorororo

[hazy vessel]

Inb4 we all doomed ourselves for wind collab unit

[safe iris]

After running a few calculations, Sakura far outclasses SBS in Tetra tower.

[random crypt]

Weaker but not entirely unusable

Its just S. Rosanna feels rather too undertuned rn

And without parts she is very weak

[hazy vessel]

inb4 next month is land eater

[modern dagger]

We expected either Summer Neon or Summer Anis

And seems we got another two at summer helm tier

[balmy shale]

How is Rosanna undertuned when she makes Novel entirely obselete?

Even without parts, that burst alone is good

[lapis bane]

[inland pecan]

Mid?

I thought all signs showed she was pretty good

Not “omg wow this broke the meta” Scarlet: Black Shadow or Red Hood good

More like Modernia good

[modest parcel]

bro has the worst opinions dont listen to him

he complains about basically every character

[balmy shale]

Obviously if not a Pilgrim, mid

[modest parcel]

[balmy shale]

Seems pretty good regardless of element to me

Ahh, gotcha. I'd read it as Modernia is good in one specific situation, woops

[modest parcel]

a boss having parts is not niche lmao

most bosses have parts that regenerate decently enough for SKura to be useable

[balmy shale]

A lot of Centurions in UR constantly regen their parts

[modest parcel]

if we talk about UR yeah

[balmy shale]

I'm hoping she'll be a good throwaway unit for first runs

Help conserve stronger units

[modest parcel]

but main assumption is SR cause UR doesnt matter that much

literally a majority of units dont

[balmy shale]

UR matters a lot to me

[modest parcel]

💀

[balmy shale]

And the point is to allow reorganization for stronger teams than the standard top three

[modest parcel]

well yeah

but im saying SR is technically more important since yk

gems

[balmy shale]

Mhm

SR is easier than UR for me, personally

I didn't join a meta union

[modest parcel]

mine is casual but still competitive

usually top 100

which is good enough for me, idrc that im losing out on like

600 chips

anyways my main point is that basically every SR boss has parts to some extent, and most are regenerated within 30 seconds

rem was useful..

its just that crown instantly took her team 4 slot

thats not hype on theory it was just getting cucked

shes still good theres just not a slot for her atm

as if previous teams didnt need massive investment

and everyone always yaps that they’re flexible but lets be real you use the same dps with them 99% of the time

sure you could put basically anyone on jks but do you?

same with bunnies

[balmy shale]

Rem will definitely show up again for water raids

Just as Sakura will probably show up for next raid

Rem deals more damage than Scarlet does

Fair then

I'm not sure I'll push Sakura past 7 in skills since it looks like she'll be team 4-ish material

Have to see how Rosanna helps (and what special mechanics they use for Kraken to nerf everyone else )

[modest parcel]

niche units are clearly needed for ele raids now

also god forbid a unit thats not a pilgrim isnt pilgrim tier or else they’re mid

[balmy shale]

Yeah, 10/10/10 should only be for true meta units (unless one is a whale)

[modest parcel]

yeah but SKura doesn’t even need 10/10/10 for this raid

and SRos is 4/4/10

they’re not even bad

dps is expected to be a max or almost max investment

if you dont have ele books thats skill issue

i have like

2k+ on every ele but iron rn

water i have over 3k

💀

then 1.3k+ selectors

[nimble root]

So far rn both units looking like one and done pulls unless downbad enough for them, since rn looking like they mainly for lots of parts boss fights?

[modest parcel]

or thats called wasting books on useless units

not mid

[weak ether]

what kinda whale running out of elemental books never seen that whale before

[modest parcel]

thats what im saying

[balmy shale]

You can buy elemental skill books every event

Also, it's totally possible to run out a particular element

I've gotten drained of Iron before

[woeful totem]

A whale usually plays in top 50

Buy books packs

10/10/10 Laplace?

Ok

Remember show your photos in #1245677309017718796 where Lappy beat red hood

We have to create the agenda

And backing to Sakura thread

Personally I invested the minimum in her

7/7/7 4 rocks xD

Simple reason wind element, right now our wind element meta is a meme

[modern dagger]

I put more than 4 rocks in but now I have three elemental damage rolls

So she can truly shine in her one niche

[woeful totem]

I spent 24 in sbs

[deep canyon]

first OL for Sakura

[woeful totem]

[fair beacon]

Just missing the def line

[trim canopy]

i got 2 lines of ammo and 3 lines of ele damage

i can't reroll anymore lacks of rocks

[dim sun]

Imo ammo is pretty useless idk

Her parts damage buffs aren't gonna be most of her damage, max like 15% maybe

Most of it is definitely her S2 and burst

Atk ele >> ammo, crits

[short anchor]

Good for you, I got God rolls for RH: ATK, Charge dmg and Charge speed

except it was on SBIS...

first roll too

[trim canopy]

i have 1 atk line

but yeah need rocks for other nikke

[deep canyon]

oh yes, first 2 OL for Sakura

beautiful

[neon delta]

do you want max ammo on sakura?

[timber wharf]

ATK and ELE

everything else is CP padding

[pallid axle]

I will OL Sakura and bring her to 7/7/7 and Rosanna without OLs to 4/4/10. I NEED to save everything else for S.Anis

[cedar forge]

Sakura 1/1/1 no OL for now, Rosanna will wait to see more, waiting Summer Part 2 if there will be one

[random crypt]

Crit works btw

Next solo raid will have SAnis banner and is land eater

Huh very sus

[woeful totem]

Mpriv time

[obsidian stag]

Fuck yea

Time for shotgun build to shine

[hazy vessel]

nah I'd be more sus if chapter 32 boss was water too

[worn dock]

SS for pvp?

[dim sun]

She can kill

As main b3

She can kill

Anything not noah, sakura can genuinely kill

Her nuke is like

800% × 1.5 × 1.11

Per unit

And then highest ATK gets skill 2ed

And then everyone also gets hit by the DoT

So it's pretty decent damage per unit as main b3

[weak ether]

Wow big nuke -B campaign

[dim sun]

As the TL currently stands she's a strong main B3 choice but

When I revamp, she'll be demoted

[dim sun]

The issue is the distribution

5 units is fine

Not 10-15 units tho lol

Think of it as distributed damage basically

[weak ether]

Sbs similar sss tier

Gothem

[dim sun]

Yeah except SBS is hitting for like 10 times more

[inland pecan]

Nice, so SBIS is another PvP sweeper

Good to see the options expand

[balmy shale]

Her burst not being tauntable is a lifesaver for her

[hazy vessel]

#1177116972593463316 message she's not bad but be prepared to go like 2RL for her to work

[modest parcel]

im thinking if you pair her with an invested emilia you’d be able to kill the highest attack before full burst

you could use her against a team with red hood and kill her pretty fast i assume

[solemn citrus]

soo

should i pull more sakura? to MLB?

i'm not by definition but i'm in top 5 for arena

i never go max core, but i did go mlb for like 4 event characters

not spending more then the passes but can spend to like 80-100 a month if i wanted to

which i did for red hood and last chrismas

[nimble root]

Only got about 100 pulls and near a pity, hows Sakura looking since rn waiting for Rosanna?

[teal hazel]

Ok my Sakura is 80% of Modernia without parts and ele

[idle aurora]

10 rock still no element, I'm ded this raid

[teal hazel]

Me 14 rock 1 ele

[obsidian stag]

I'm saving my rocks until solo raid begins, don't want to use them early

[idle aurora]

Same atk as mod (32%) in non element advantage.

[sacred flower]

So she'll do more than mod if the boss has parts?

[idle aurora]

It's my PC issue at this point. Mod magically did more 140M

[sacred flower]

I think she'll stll do more than mod just because in real scenarios
sr bosses don't have cores

[idle aurora]

[random crypt]

PC issue?

[random crypt]

The cp diff

[idle aurora]

Sure

Always have PC issue when playing MG team

[teal hazel]

Yea mine still lv 0 OL, skill also 4/7/7 no doll

[south bronze]

so is sakura worth building?

[mortal plover]

For me, she's at least equal to Drunk Scarlet as the flex DPS, sometimes equal to Modernia, and if she has a boss with easy breaking parts that regen, she does very well.

[modern dagger]

Flex DPS as in not bursting?

[random crypt]

Very.

[south bronze]

welp i did 8-10-10 ( i misclick on s1 i thought im at lvl 6 XD)
full OL 2x atk and 2x ele

full OL lvl 5

[random crypt]

Nice dmg

[mortal plover]

Probably used the wrong term. Slot her and and out as needed based on stage. She might be the main DPS, she might be there for an initial burst but not again now that the parts are gone, etc.

[random crypt]

Cus she scales well with atk

Stop comparing her to Scaelet

Scarlet can benefit from core dmg

Sakura cant

BUT

Brother she benefits a lot from ATK

Literally 40% atk means 40%+ more dmg at base

Lol

[mortal plover]

Is this testing with or without a parts heavy boss?

sigh

It would be nice if I got black lines in the third slot with actually relevant attributes.

[random crypt]

Take ATK, consider locking, reroll attributes again.

That elemental dmg is low

That atk is idk level 10?

But u can also reroll without locking

[mortal plover]

I don't have a lot of rocks to burn on rerolls after locking an attribute.

But thank you.

[sweet wedge]

Get a least a couple lines of ammo on summer sakura

[valid glen]

wb elemen lines ? i've got 20% atk on 2 pieces and i was thinking of rerolling them for ele

[lapis bane]

huh

AR, shoot peas and LnW recommends Ammo?

it's like

Emma with 100% reload and recommends her to get more ammo

not only her dps sucks, but also she reloads so fast it barely matters

[modern dagger]

Most of her damage isn't even from her ammo anyway lol

Even crit is gonna be more useful

[sweet wedge]

loot and waifus recommended it https://www.reddit.com/r/NikkeMobile/comments/1dxdc4k/sakura_bloom_in_summer_guide/

[lapis bane]

damn, gotta edit my chat

anw

80% of her dmg is from skill aka DoT

don't waste your sanity with ammo

having it is okay, not having it doesn't change anything

[balmy shale]

I had a 4x Max Ammo SW for a while. Can confirm damage gain was minimimal

[modest parcel]

crit is probably more of a dmg gain than max ammo..

[hot mauve]

Me with 2 lines of max ammo:

[modest parcel]

its fine

dw about it

just get as much attack and ele as possible

[hot mauve]

I only got 1 of each

wait, I think I got 2 ele

[modern dagger]

Rerolled each piece until I had 1 of ATK or Ele on each and called it

That's as much as I'm willing to give her

[modest parcel]

yeah im struggling on her OLs too

i havent rolled a single attack

2 eles

[worn dock]

does DOT still do damage if boss is off screen/hidden?

like when a boss pops up a qte wall (ultra, cc, kraken) or flying away (stormbringer)

[hot mauve]

has anyone tried if the DoT goes through Glasses rapture shield?

[modern dagger]

In theory it will, however might not be targetable by her S2 if it's offscreen when the 30s cooldown ends?

[deep canyon]

this is a great question, it would be super convenient if it does

[modern dagger]

I feel like when they dip above or below the screen e.g. Modernia there's no reason it won't

QTE smokescreen maybe not?

If nothing else I plan to bring Summer Sakura when there's a boss who constantly fucking teleports

[lapis bane]

may be, I don't know, you can put her against a boss which does that

definitely C30 boss aka CC

[modern dagger]

We can test with Modernia SI if we kill it slowly enough to trigger second phase

[balmy beacon]

tbh max ammo is decent but way far behind att and ele

surely better than cs and cd

[hot mauve]

Yeah, Imma record one as soon as I encounter Glasses

[swift saddle]

Does elemental damage help when off type advantage too ?

[pallid axle]

No

But when it is used it is by far the biggest advantage you can get, Top 50s are literally defined by the amount of Elemental lines you have

[balmy shale]

Element is longterm the best investment because, as we get more meta units, teams will slowly gravitate to full elemental

ATK provides more flexibility since it works for everything, but ATK is so diluted for most DPS units that its gains are far weaker than element's

[woeful totem]

Well atk in hard campaign in your hyper carry nikkes is still good

But yeah otherwise ele is better

[modern dagger]

In theory hard mode should also eventually become element based

Once you reach hard mode 40 you'll hopefully have RH equivalents for each element

[short anchor]

hard mode 40?

[modern dagger]

Yeah, as in, in the future

We're not up to 40 yet right

[short anchor]

oh, I thought you had a typo of 400

hard mode level 400 is here, but not hard mode chapter 40

[woeful totem]

40 what

Turkeys, chickens

[balmy shale]

With the CP buff, hard campaign isn't that threatening anymore

People are clearing Ch 30 at like synch level 430-440, right?

[random crypt]

Sefhi does this a lot

I shall make one for Prydwen and disguise it as "mine" instead (so no one knows its from prydwen).

[modern dagger]

Summer Sakura really shows how limited our options are for cubes ngl

No option that makes a significant difference for her

You're basically just throwing whatever high level cube you have spare at her for the Elemental Damage

[thick oyster]

Skip? And just wait for Anis to arrive? Rather, rerun?

[silent wind]

Solid team 5 for this SR, guaranteed after SRosa release

[thick oyster]

Sold team 5 for this SR? Wat manner of english is this

[fair beacon]

sold team 5 for how many credits?

[woeful totem]

[random crypt]

• 35.4% ATK
• 22.2% CRIT DMG
• 26.36% ELE

Wasted 8 rocks to get 15% CRIT DMG and wasted 2 lines away.

Dumb decision.

But the same dumb decision got me 26% ELE.

Decided to waste 8 more for 24.96% ELE.

• 35.4% ATK
• 6% CRIT DMG
• 51.32% ELE

I mean LV 0 gear non advantage element 1 1 1 skill.

[weak ether]

Why not 444 777

[woeful totem]

10/10/10

[silent wind]

I'm sorry if you can't read

[south furnace]

None of gacha players can read

[tribal sparrow]

Is adding D and Helm going to be overkill for bosses with her?

[solemn citrus]

is sakura worth it for pvp?

or i shouldn't invest if all my other b3 is strong for arena already

[solemn citrus]

[dim sun]

if other b3 are strong, you dont need to rush into investing her

[placid field]

SEGS SEGS SEGS

segs her now

[tribal cliff]

Rosanna is out, so how's her damage fairing.

[lapis bane]

supporter with only 1 DoT

which damage do you want to fare

oh this is sakura thread

it will look like this

[modern dagger]

I don't think Rosco will outperform Crown so Summer Sakura isn't gonna be any higher

[lapis bane]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1108346931819851806/1260746788466589696/Screenshot_2024-07-11-06-48-42-19_c2d776fc3517a2e8cce46bb2a85067e9.jpg?ex=66907171&is=668f1ff1&hm=7c4c589b8cf4d8e1a6855458bd8ae5ea492bd039aecfcbc09cf64e20111f1d66&

[modern dagger]

She's just got a good crown substitute now

[tribal cliff]

I want to MLB Sakura, but summer anis is coming :v

I need anis so my shotgun team and Scarlet would be put into work.

[obsidian stag]

Ok this is bullshit

[lapis bane]

[silent wind]

Make her as a tank

[lapis bane]

you do know that I copied it from Raid planning right?

[teal hazel]

Go test with your account 💢

[obsidian stag]

I was hoping for either atk or ele slots, but I'm already low on rocks

[woeful totem]

[visual oxide]

is she mid?

[woeful totem]

Midkura

[silent wind]

Neither SSakura nor Rosachic has anti-synergy with units that need low-ammo right?

I'm thinking of running Doro, Rosachic, SSakura, Privaty, healer

[balmy beacon]

that would be 0 damage tho

who is buffing the team priv s1 only ?

[modern dagger]

Rosa will buff the team with her burst, but yeah a proper ATK buff is missing from that setup

[modern dagger]

The main anti-synergy is core damage, since SSakura deals mostly sustain so similar to S.Anis core damage is kinda useless to her.

Ironically so is Rosco's parts damage, but at least it helps her clear parts quickly with her otherwise low normal attack damage

[dim sun]

No anti synergy, may lack synergy tho

Like, sakura in tiga, no core hit damage

And then Rosanna doesn't give ammo to modernia, idk how much the parts damage buff covers it

[silent wind]

I see, then what is the most optimal them for both?

[dim sun]

Prolly smthng with them together

We'll find out soon enough

[silent wind]

Okay, gotta wait for it then, thanks

[woeful totem]

Viper

[leaden flame]

And whos already got the treasure viper lmao

[dry summit]

My Liter works as a slave for my Crown team with Alice and Sober Scarlet

Who else works with S Sakura?

Aside from D Wife too since she's at the Tia Naga team

[woeful totem]

Why not doro

[dry summit]

I might actually do that

Since my Doro team + Anis rn is severely underperforming compared to my Shotgun team for some reason

And it has significantly higher investment too

Idk why

[teal hazel]

Well that team is actually weakest

[dry summit]

Any suggestions?

These are my teams rn, Sakura might replace Maxwell on the Modernia team soon

[teal hazel]

Maybe try Doro privaty crown Alice sbs? So you can move liter to other team

[teal hazel]

What damage is this anyway

Prev solo raid?

[dry summit]

Nah, that's against enemies with no elemental advantage so I can gauge my teams without it

Solo boss, no parts

The one on Union raid 3 minutes

[teal hazel]

I see

[dry summit]

Imma test out Doro and Crown later

[balmy shale]

Need to either use Volume in RH tean or insert a B3 Wind in X Lud's place

Tiga/DKW/RH/XLud won't work this raid

[dry summit]

Nah, it's fine

I'm not really aiming for elemental advantage teams

More like generalist teams that I can use and still deal damage regardless of elements

Since I can't be assed to switch around every time

Unless maybe there's elemental weakness point thingies

[balmy shale]

Oh, this isn't for Solo Raid?

I saw five teams listed and assumed too quickly

[lapis bane]

but you will

[balmy shale]

I always make very specific teams for UR rather than generalist teams, so I'm no help there

[lapis bane]

everyone will eventually be assed and switch team per ele

that's inevitable

[balmy shale]

Generalist teams are inefficient and only work if your union is stacked

[dry summit]

Probably the main problem why the team damage suck ass tbh

[dim sun]

This team is fine

[dry summit]

Yeah but no dupes though

Hoping I get more Sakuras and at least a couple copies for S Anis so I can at least squeeze in more damage

I really wanna use Sakura for my 5th team cuz I like her more than Maxwell

[lapis bane]

if I give you 1 dupe for each Nikke

you will gain 2% more dmg max

[deep canyon]

unless it's the first 2/3 dupes

which also unlock bond stats

[cold jacinth]

Ass needs to come back now

[shrewd jewel]

give me core 7 so i can just do 20% more damage for free

6b->7.2b for free

[modest parcel]

thats not how it works

[shrewd jewel]

considering its base stats

technically its slightly more cuz bonds + cores are multiplicative with lb/bond

[modest parcel]

oh do you mean on literally every unit

i thought you meant just on a few dps units

[shrewd jewel]

yes

on all my units

[modest parcel]

[woeful totem]

well i rerolled for midkura

77,4% ele

0 atk

[inland pecan]

0 atk?

[woeful totem]

kraken lvl 7

midlet

[timber wharf]

tested in pvp yet?

[placid field]

mid in pvp

[timber wharf]

https://nikke.gg/sakura-bloom-in-summer-analysis-and-theorycraft/

[woeful totem]

Question, is Nikke GG doing favorite items reviews?

[dim sun]

@scarlet pike

[woeful totem]

Oh thanks snake, I didn't know that Jay was around here

[dim sun]

Ping him for info anytime cuz apparently no other soul does anything for nikke.gg

[woeful totem]

[opaque nacelle]

She is sexy as hell

[hot mauve]

The DoT goes through Noah's shield tho

[placid field]

easily countered by noise, u can still use her but dont i personally won't recommend running it on defense

Keripo put her as off burst dps

[fleet berry]

I dunno why you would even consider using her as an off burst dps, I say either use her as your burst or dont use her at all

[placid field]

cause shes attack highest dps, acts like a mini sanis or rosanna

[fleet berry]

not sure if that initial damage is worth it tho, its DoT so its gonna take a while before it deals significant damage or kill/assasinate the top dps unit

[modern dagger]

Sakura deals damage every second with her S2 so if I'm reading the scaling right

S1 should be levelled to 4,6,8, or 10

Leaving her at e.g. 7 may as well be 6

I'm also assuming that repeatedly breaking parts doesn't continue to extend it further

E.g. breaking a part every 5 seconds doesn't cause S2 to be infinite

In which case the motivation to invest in S1 would only drop further

[lapis bane]

https://www.prydwen.gg/nikke/guides/guide-sakura-summer

read

[inland pecan]

? I think it does refresh it

[inland pecan]

What did you make us read

[lapis bane]

The refresh

Mackii verified the upper part

The lower part is from kr

[inland pecan]

Found it. Yeah, @modern dagger

I think that kit analysis could use restructuring. It’s very wall of text

And the other part I screenshotted, could’ve been said in much fewer words. This isn’t a case where they’re paid by the character. Or are they?

Anyways, 2 cents

[lapis bane]

Ask kikinix

For me, it should be

Pull?

Yes

Why?

Stronk

[modern dagger]

So S1 scaling is fairly trash then

Since bosses either have parts that regen quickly allowing infinite uptime, or don't

Inb4 people are rationing mother whale guns to one every 7 seconds lol

[weak ether]

typical prydwen blog

[lapis bane]

Actually, if you can break 8 parts of mw

Dot uptime is the last thing you care abouy

[inland pecan]

Yeah, if you can break that many, it’s a win

But, raids would be different, and we haven’t seen a true rerun of a solo raid

[balmy shale]

Yeah, S1 is meh. I'm leaving it at 7 for now

[dim sun]

It literally was structured by skill

And then keksinix changed it for some reason

https://www.prydwen.gg/nikke/guides/guide-bay/

[dim sun]

Like here

[inland pecan]

Is that an example of structured by skill?

[dim sun]

Yeah

[inland pecan]

And actually don’t mind me. I have trouble being brief or exercising brevity

So was a bit hypocritical there

My eyes glazed over is all but I’m sure it’s much better on a PC

Since the line lengths are comfier there

[random crypt]

I dont separate it by skill bcus some skills are interconnected

And u will end up saying the same thing again

For example

In sakura case

If I talk about S1

Im forced to talk about S2

If I talk about S2

Im forced to talk S1

Now there are units where Burst, S1, and S2 affect each other

Like Emilia

Or even Rem

[balmy beacon]

imagine gacha player reading a wall of text without shiny photos or videos and a tldr on bottom

[weak ether]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PqJzO-Ehjk
imma leave it here too @strong peak good one

[inland pecan]

Carried by Crown

[weak ether]

fill me in some nikkes that propelled by Crown to perform similar

[inland pecan]

Non-Pilgrim B3s?

Eh given a choice people will just work on their best B3s, at least if they realize what they have

I was just saying Crown carried, because she tanked the second set of parts’ guns

With invincibility

Not to mention, giving the team even more overall damage

If we ignore whether things are meta, just using Modernia and Alice would do a lot better here, no? The boss is Wind is thus weak to Fire

[weak ether]

no this is the first clear and sakura at 444

[inland pecan]

Oh?

[weak ether]

and most of these nikkes except naga+volume not featured

so if i play from crown

the crown piece + sakura piece got me this clear

and sakura damage looks pretty good, reduce the time we have to constantly fighting

[inland pecan]

Hmm it is pretty good

Still

I can’t help but notice the very generous viewing range

Destroyed right most parts and was able to immediately start beating up the leftmost parts

[inland pecan]

I felt like goofing off a bit, here’s my usual viewing area, probably. I wish I could see the far left parts the way you do

So I can’t be sure whether I’d actually even beat Train using an identical team from the video

[weak ether]

i didnt notice that till u point it out

[inland pecan]

Identical as in power/gear/skill as well

[weak ether]

prolly

cuz like u said, crown absored the damage

[inland pecan]

Still, Sakura doing that much damage at 4/4/4 is hot

[weak ether]

but we also have an rng layer if she kinda off burst (due to the view) sth she can still dodge it

[inland pecan]

What’s the main contributor, her burst?

[weak ether]

im not a math guy, i just thought the part destroy damage up is kinda stonk in SI, potentially play well in future harder SI

but i was afraid of giving that idea, but then this guy show up with free train sakura

[inland pecan]

It is, actually now that I think about it

[weak ether]

[inland pecan]

Isn’t this effectively like making Blanc a B3 only her debuff is only for parts? Kinda. Still pretty strong without her heals.

Like how XLud can debuff enemy dmg taken

[weak ether]

they be playing lego with the mech

[modern dagger]

YOU CAN SEE TRAIN THE WHOLE TIME WHILE.IN WIDE VIEW????

I've got the stats to clear easily anyway but god damn I should've been using landscape when I was a struggling newbie.

[weak ether]

ye i didnt know about it till a fella in #pve-team-building told me few months ago

[modern dagger]

I was putting together teams with shit like Maxwell bursting first so she could hold her burst until the far right turrets finally came back into view

[weak ether]

thats also one of the very old strat for it

only see very few people do it, due to at that time, maxwell was not a priority

[modern dagger]

In wide view no need to hold for 15 seconds just fire at the turrets smh

[placid field]

wait u guys manuel train still?

just use crown and scarlet bs😆

[modern dagger]

Not anymore but im realising that I could've had it much easier if I'd used wide view

[strong peak]

crown is def huge but i legit couldnt beat it even with crown with any of my other dps (maxwell,noir,privaty). also alice not an option cause of invest requirements. for people without ol gear or pilgrim dps, ssakura seems huge for such a small investment

[inland pecan]

Tbh idk, but it’s always great to have more viable options

Dorothy could’ve given team 50% parts dmg buff (I think it’s that high), and that beats what S.Sakura gives team Edit: Oops, S.Sakura doesn’t give parts dmg buffs

So as long as Interception Ex and similar things are limited to 1 team, there are a bunch of viable ways to cream them

But, S.Sakura is a non-pilgrim so… sorta.