[Sakura: Bloom In Summer] New Unit Megathread

[worn dock]

nah man don't make me MLB guilty, I wanna MLB quency first

[grave lintel]

I would say actual DPS bar is just compare to midlet

[balmy beacon]

Did gatrix ran the numbers

[woeful totem]

He said kaka

[worn dock]

pho math

[balmy beacon]

Also what's the bs of "gets stronger when breaks parts"

5% attack wooooo

Huge lmao

[woeful totem]

Shift up

Well Imma wait for keke results

[grave lintel]

more uptime on S2

[short anchor]

^

it extend DoT to 10 more seconds, with dmg per second

[balmy beacon]

if we can time the damn SW shots we can time the Sakura burst with S2 proc

[short anchor]

can DoT even crit?

[woeful totem]

Actually Sakura seems really good for raid like bird or nvidia

[lapis bane]

can crit

[woeful totem]

Even if they are not wind weak

[balmy beacon]

How does crit on dot works

Does it check every instance

[woeful totem]

Unexpected Kiki results

[balmy beacon]

Or once at the first application

[short anchor]

so DoT work the same as dmg

[woeful totem]

So doro Rosanna plapkura

Break parts team

[balmy beacon]

I swear if rosana is just a dot buffer

[short anchor]

Hmm, DoT is more similar to AOE instead

as DoT can't benefit from core hitting

[woeful totem]

Imagine blanc immune in Rosanna's kit

Insta meta pvp

[short anchor]

iirc, the dmg stay the same, not even jump when NIKKE hit core and trigger the DoT

well, DoT team doesn't sound bad

[balmy shale]

Wait, am I reading a 4500% ATK damage burst not including the DoT?

[short anchor]

pair well with bunny

as like I said, core dmg buff is waste on DoT like SBIS

[lapis bane]

every instance

on every target

since she's AR with skill based kit

Ele - ATK - Crit + Crit Dmg

damn that sounds like 2 B

[balmy shale]

That burst DoT will be a pain to calculate

[short anchor]

also deal dmg off screen as well, like when boss trigger puzzle

[balmy shale]

Oh wait, no, cuz 10s expiration

[silent wind]

Free 2b dmg too?

On raid

[lapis bane]

Ele check will probably be

[silent wind]

Let's go Peakura

[woeful totem]

At least meta in kraken raid

[balmy shale]

So it's just 35% 70% 105% 140% 175% 210% 245% 280% 315% 350% 350% 350% 350% 350% 350% 350% 350% 350% 350%

That's an insanely powerful burst

[gentle nova]

maybe pvp potential

[woeful totem]

Like 2b in pvp

[balmy shale]

4500% + 3500% + 5075%

[woeful totem]

Wait 2b is distributed dng

[balmy shale]

13875% ATK over 20s

Not good for PvP

Takes too long

[woeful totem]

Roll X4 ele

[gentle nova]

how does her burst nuke work, is it 900% multi hit to each enemy in pvp

[balmy shale]

450% hitting a random enemy each second

And applying the DoT to it

[woeful totem]

X4 ele = easy top 200 Hope top 100 cope top 50

[leaden flame]

Its random
You can even hit all 10 at defender with biscuit invi or blanc invi lol

[placid field]

gokura

[short anchor]

Not to mention, PvP now fill with healers and tank taunt

SBIS is not good in PvP

[gentle nova]

does the burst attack once a sec or is it almost all instant? or are we unsure (for the atk sequentially part)

[balmy shale]

It's a near SW nuke at base with 1.6x additional SW damage as DoT

[leaden flame]

By the vid showcase all instant
See all enemies glowing at the same time

[balmy shale]

Oh true, not certain if every second

Sequential damage is new

If it's insant, then only 4500% + 3500% damage

Still very strong

And that's without S2 buff to sustained damage

[south knoll]

inb4 it doesnt target already attacked enemies

[gentle nova]

it's affected by taunt right?

do we have attacks rn that target random enemies

[balmy shale]

Impossible

Otherwise the DoT couldn't stack

[gentle nova]

meta for solo raid?

or only against bosses with parts

[balmy shale]

Well, unless bizarrely the DoT stacks count f9r number of targets hit and apply to all targets

Where then she'd be a strong anti-mob unit

Need to see JP kit

I'll check it on next break

[gentle nova]

she should at least be good pairing for a rosanna snipe team in pvp, at least 500% dmg taken before rosanna nuke hits, makes it easier to snipe, esp with the dolls these days

[short anchor]

Does DoT work on shield? or bypass shield?

[gentle nova]

I assume it would bypass shields to hit directly

[short anchor]

I think against normal shield, it does dmg. However, against the hit-count shield?

or just bypass shield

[sinful echo]

Imagine her burst dmg is just 457% and not 457% * 10 like everyone has thought

♿

[south knoll]

could be DoT debuff that accumulates stack every 1 sec or there's an upcoming sustained dmg support that can increase stacks

yeah its nothing doesnt even stack

[balmy beacon]

wait

where did we got that kit from

THEY SUPPOSED TO RELEASE TOMORROW

LMAO

rosana kit not today

intern-kun with the leaks once again

[wraith grotto]

My only question is that DOT dmg always update or just depend on the atk when it apply

every game have this question when you saw dot dmg

[lilac bone]

jp translation

versus EN deleted kit

[wraith grotto]

doesnt help anything

[surreal stream]

He doesnt reply to you

[lilac bone]

it's the damage over time

Nihil burst has it

DoT

seems like it

[balmy moss]

Looks like the atk damage up in S1 were swapped with the DoT up in S2 in the EN version

[burnt tide]

Silly EN

[mental geyser]

huh did srosa kit leak?

[burnt tide]

Nah, EN fucked up again

[mental geyser]

if someone saved it before it get deleted, can you post it in eden or something

[burnt tide]

Or seems like it

[unique oasis]

any1 manage 2 save the rosa skills?

[lapis bane]

the only time Peakure will get bonk

is against Nvidia

chick too stronk

[unique oasis]

?

[mental geyser]

I was going off the convo above where someone said they deleted something

[unique oasis]

also

[mental geyser]

thought it was srosa since that'd be the first thought for a delete

[unique oasis]

why are u going with rochico

[burnt tide]

You could literally scroll up a lil bit to see what I said “silly en” too

[mental geyser]

good ol en then

[burnt tide]

❓

[mental geyser]

someone around there also said they were supposed to release srosa kit tomorrow not today

[modern dagger]

5% up for DoT? Who gives a shit lol, that such a small and niche buff for level 10

[mental geyser]

pretty easy answer for why I thought it might've been srosa

[burnt tide]

EN tried to buff her dot

[modern dagger]

Duration extension is more relevant part of S1 but even that is questionable

[woeful totem]

The fuck is wrong with SU writing in English?

[modern dagger]

If I'm reading it right:

No parts -> sustained damage during burst only

Destroy parts -> sustain damage outside burst too, and wow +5%

Whoop de whoop

Is the damage outside the buff-heavy burst even gonna matter?

Crown is basically our only buffer whose buffs last more than ten seconds

[balmy beacon]

if the dot snapshots the first application the duration extention should keep the snapshot

[modern dagger]

Ohhhh

[balmy beacon]

but we don't know until she gets out

[modern dagger]

Yeah if it doesn't snapshot... I guess you might be able to extend it into the other B3's burst? Lol

[balmy beacon]

rhic

[modern dagger]

RosCO

[woeful totem]

Rocco

Siffredi

[modern dagger]

If it snapshots that means you won't get stuff like Crown buff tho

Since that only appears at start of full burst

[mental geyser]

she gonna be srosa to me forever

[random crypt]

1 copy enough.

[woeful totem]

MLB lobby

[random crypt]

People say she's good. I'd say she is weak in PvE or at least Emilia level.

In PvP, she is OK.

Revised kit.

[lapis bane]

[dim sun]

Hmm?

Wdym revised

[random crypt]

It's a find the difference game.

[woeful totem]

Now he is using shift up twitter words

[burnt tide]

EN fucked up somehow and swapped the 5.1% and 15% buffs

[woeful totem]

[dim sun]

Fucking dumbasses

[burnt tide]

Before the 5.1% was the attack dmg buff when it was supposed to be the dot buff

[random crypt]

Still bad.

[modern dagger]

Whether her DoT snapshots will determine how viable she is outside wind weak bosses I suspect

No ammo halving for Doro parts damage memes tho, maybe Rosco

[random crypt]

If Rosanna gives atk buff, she might as well be meta

But not in the current state

No units without self atk buff have been meta

[modern dagger]

Rosanna is a support

Plenty of support are meta without self atk buffs

[random crypt]

Look, Guilty will show up again.

[raven seal]

"sustained damage" phrase confuses me

wth is sustained damage

[random crypt]

DoT.

Damage over time.

[raven seal]

ohhhhhh

[random crypt]

It is a debuff.

Nihilister.

[raven seal]

OHHHHHH

YEAH

TRUE

omg just use the "damage over time" phrase lol

[random crypt]

I will be honest.

I think the vid uses an old Sakura version.

It might as well have been "affects all enemies".

But lower damage.

[deep canyon]

Forcefully use s2

nice wording

[random crypt]

With 4 ATK line + core 11, she might be scary in PvP.

[deep canyon]

core 11 huh

[rotund vapor]

I only need to stay in my comfy diamond 3

in pvp

[random crypt]

Rosanna is scarier still.

More like budget Rosanna lmao

But

If u combine both...

You would die to Scarlet correct

[balmy shale]

lol EN kit forgot the 1 in 15

[jaunty valley]

How does her burst work, i dont get why it's says, lasts 10 secs, if every dot only stays 1 sec

[balmy shale]

Was wondering

5.41 looked really low

[balmy shale]

DoT trigger each second

So ten ticks

Debuff applied for 10s with a tick each second

[woeful totem]

[fair beacon]

Another essay of a kit

Another crap

https://tenor.com/view/he-is-speaking-guy-explaining-with-a-whiteboard-some-guy-explaining-gif-19593300

Su kit designer be like

[rotund vapor]

It'll need rosanna to function yeah? So base damage is probably not terrific.

[balmy beacon]

no number changes

same kit

[fair beacon]

She’s too cope to use in PvP. Would be funny if she needs to be hyper invested like og rosanna and pumped with full ol attack lines to be useful in PvP

[woeful totem]

Sustained damage

[balmy shale]

How are people saying 8000% final ATK damage burst is bad damage?

[woeful totem]

[woeful totem]

Not "people" tag kisenix

[balmy beacon]

tbh 5% att would be better than 5% sustained damage

[balmy shale]

And that's without her buff

[balmy shale]

Oh

Explains it

[balmy shale]

This looks right

[random crypt]

She can be used with Rosanna.

[placid field]

Assault rifle she will have the same burst generation as scarlet or no?

[balmy shale]

Picture Kisenix dropped has attack damage listed

Less than Scarlet

JP is right

[balmy beacon]

3rd revision for the en kit

[random crypt]

No ATK buff to back it up

[placid field]

Did they nerfed her en kit?

I missed something?

[balmy shale]

15.64% attack damage

[balmy shale]

That's why Rosanna exists

They're clearly a duo

[random crypt]

Do we have her kit

[balmy shale]

Not yet, but her description is increasing allies offensive capabilities

[fair beacon]

watch rosanna buff allies of a different element than sakura

[balmy shale]

Likely Caster's ATK buff since Shift Up loves giving those to supports to make them expensive

[fair beacon]

We were coping bunny Alice would buff bunny soda too

[balmy shale]

[fair beacon]

Look how that turned out

[balmy shale]

Yeah, it's possible, but here's the thing

She's Wind

The standard she needs to beat is D

[random crypt]

Technically bunny alice buffs tove which buffs bunny soda

[balmy shale]

[random crypt]

S B S

[fair beacon]

Clown game with clown kit writers

[balmy shale]

SBS is one attacker we know we're not replacing

We need more for raids

[random crypt]

Guilty

[balmy shale]

Guilty is B2

Different placement in team

[fair beacon]

sbs my love. Now just need sbs 2

[random crypt]

U dont even know what burst rosanna is

[balmy shale]

She's 2

Are you drunk?

[balmy beacon]

huh

[balmy shale]

[fair beacon]

yea rosanna is b2

[random crypt]

We know?

[balmy shale]

Yes

[random crypt]

Hmm ok

40s B2

[balmy shale]

But key is

[random crypt]

[balmy shale]

Yeah

[balmy beacon]

yep

[balmy shale]

We don't know CD

[balmy beacon]

40 sec inc

[random crypt]

I think 60s better

[balmy shale]

If 40s, she could be dead in the water

[fair beacon]

Has to be 40s

Can’t be too good

[balmy shale]

Unless she doesn't need to burst

[deep canyon]

40sec so that you're force to run guilty as a 2nd b2

[random crypt]

Reenter B2?

And ure forced to run another B2

Muahahahaha

[balmy beacon]

reneter b2 with heals and buffs

crown support

[balmy shale]

But even without Rosanna, Sakura is easily 2B-tier meaning a definite not-skip for anyone who cares about raids

[north ravine]

is skill 1/2 at the start of battle works in pvp ? no need to destroy parts first right ?

[random crypt]

Yes

[balmy shale]

And yeah, no "target appears" condition

[random crypt]

So technically she debuffs enemy highest atk immediately

Which is why I said she can be used with PvP Rosanna

Less invested rosanna kinda

[balmy shale]

Problems in PvP are slow damage on burst and bad burst gen

Although the initial burst damage is still very healthy

[random crypt]

Nono

Its random and tauntable

Its literally Alice

[balmy shale]

Random target is bad, yeah

We know it's tauntable?

[short anchor]

random enemies

I'm being like how many and does priority, like mob < elite < boss

[fair beacon]

Random targeting in PvP doesn’t sound fun

[balmy shale]

Mhm

She looks like a raider to me

Mobber potentially depending on how burst stacks work

[short anchor]

yeah it doesn't state how many enemies, so It could be the dmg just jump randomly between targets?

[balmy shale]

Need to know the tooltip for sequential damage

If stacks apply per hit and not per consecutive hit on one enemy, that's 3500% per enemy hit up to 10

[balmy beacon]

from my understanding she just hits random enemies 10 times and the stacking might inply that she doesn't ignore same target

literal gacha burst

[balmy shale]

If the stacks are just consecutive, that's poor damage for mobbing

[short anchor]

so against a boss, 10 hits on it as well

[balmy beacon]

probably

[short anchor]

imagine not

[balmy beacon]

if not she is not even usable

[balmy shale]

I think sequential damage is probably going to mean that it orders the hits in order to sort out the DoT stacks

[short anchor]

that would cost her a big chunk of potential DPS

SBIS kits are really confusing in term of calculate

[hot mauve]

she's a hard counter to Scarlet teams in arena, trust

[balmy shale]

EN more strongly implies same target can be hit multiple times

[short anchor]

she is not realiable against all bosses

so I sort her into very good niche

[balmy shale]

Has info the JP kit doesn't have

[balmy beacon]

I think sequential damage is there for its not at once so she can attack same target

[balmy shale]

Which makes me suspicious

[rotund vapor]

For PvE in arena, it all depends if her base stats are just trash or not yeah?

[balmy beacon]

Imean its en

[short anchor]

you can say SBIS deal 'sus dmg'
get it?

[balmy shale]

especially after they already screwed up twice

[balmy beacon]

it could be wrong

again

[balmy shale]

Unless she can't hit same target, my stance is that she's a must-get

If she can't, she's S Neon 2024

[balmy beacon]

if she can't hit the same target the 10 stacks and 10 attacks is too much of a coincidence

[balmy shale]

I'm planning to MLB day 1 and test

I max cored Rem and don't regret it

[dim sun]

Don't write her out just yet

[short anchor]

look at Rosanna simp talking

[balmy shale]

I do regret core maxing Emilia tho

[balmy shale]

Yeah

Pin the one Kisenix posted

It's correct from what I saw

[balmy beacon]

whats the info on the burst for jp

[balmy shale]

Burst numbers and effects are the same

Although JP doesn't specify how stacks work like EN does

[thorny osprey]

SU hiring competent translators? never!

[balmy shale]

Just says "10 stacks"

Only big error is S2

[short anchor]

God damn it language barrier

[fair beacon]

at this point it feels even su doesn’t know what the kit should be

[balmy shale]

@timber wharf

That one is correct translation

[balmy shale]

No idea, but it's right

[woeful totem]

Time to someone in SU to learn English

[timber wharf]

but is it

am pinning the officials

[balmy shale]

It matches the JP official

[short anchor]

Kisenix already done translation better than who ever SU hire

[dim sun]

You pinned the wrong one

[dim sun]

I logged in 27 hours ago

I have time

[balmy beacon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1255469926702121002/1257586013992255498/image-1117.png?ex=6684f1be&is=6683a03e&hm=386b509f3648411ca8b20ac80b0055a6e9370345296d3cbfa8c2f695b2efbaee& this ?

they just did

oh nvm

me blind

lmao how the hell they fail twice

they should leak jp kit to us

and we could translate better

then steal from this post

[balmy shale]

The translators do JP to EN apparently and still screw up

Seriously bad

Should always translate from source language

[fair beacon]

The sad thing is since she’s limited I have to pick up one copy at least.

But I don’t have to pickup sneon so that’s good. I can deal with that one being greyed out forever.

[balmy beacon]

no sneon jumpscare

[dim sun]

Honestly
They made sakura really cute

[fair beacon]

Yep

Gonna pull for her looks now

As god intended for a waifu game

[burnt tide]

I mean…

[fair beacon]

neon spook is like Isabel spook

[burnt tide]

Iirc isn’t she in a separate banner now?

[fair beacon]

That could’ve been an useful unit

[burnt tide]

[fair beacon]

That’s all I would’ve thought

Wow. Luckiest nikke player

Holy shit lmao

I do hope you get her soon

I too would welcome a doro banner rerun

I can see you have that image handy

[rotund vapor]

Sakura looks good. If she is good, shame I might need to pull for rosanna who does not look good.

[dim sun]

It will be funny if you get her after she's out of meta

[woeful totem]

Bricked account, reroll now

[dim sun]

We will be getting 2 more cdr this year I believe

[dim sun]

Rosanna design >>>>> sakura

[woeful totem]

Agree

[fair beacon]

https://i.meee.com.tw/TUE7IRz.gif

[woeful totem]

Rosmommy

[fair beacon]

Facts

[balmy beacon]

imagine if they release a cdr unit with the shelm rerun

[rotund vapor]

Rosanna has a butterface and terrible hair

[woeful totem]

Pp hard

[rotund vapor]

Plenty of nikkes have big tits

[dim sun]

You know what's funnier

Cdr in collab

[short anchor]

please, raid players like me turn off animation completely

[fair beacon]

me too

[short anchor]

I don't have time to looks at boobs, I'm here to grind and become a champ!

Thot is temporary! Glory is forever!

[woeful totem]

butterface

Someone ban him

[balmy beacon]

doro was in the anis-sbs team just because we don't have another b1 cdr

[dim sun]

Sakura normal < Rosanna normal design wise

It is only fitting that it happened again

[balmy beacon]

any b1 with some buffs would kick her out

[fair beacon]

Pray the same thing happens with the kits

[balmy beacon]

or they fix how crits work

[dim sun]

I'm pretty sure

Pretty pretty fucking sure

They're not gonna change dmg formula 2 years into the game

[balmy beacon]

yep

[fair beacon]

Will they ever make crits useful in this game?

[balmy beacon]

volume dead forever

first good crit unit will have 200+ crit damage baseline or something

[dim sun]

They're useful on the right unit(s)

[rotund vapor]

Got to tell the truth

[short anchor]

They can't change, but can add something in the formula

[dim sun]

2B for example

[short anchor]

math is flexible

[woeful totem]

The truth for you

[short anchor]

SW, more than 25% chance to crit

and the dmg is very decent

[fair beacon]

I joined too late for 2B waaaaaaaaa

[woeful totem]

2b survived 1 raid

[balmy beacon]

crits are not useful on 2b, its just attack is useless

[woeful totem]

Well 2 if you count bird

[balmy beacon]

so you have to run crits

[dim sun]

Used in 4 raids

Hater

[short anchor]

Julia, fully crits

[fair beacon]

I just want that fat 2booty on my lobby is it too hard to ask

[short anchor]

AND IT SUCK

They did my waifu dirty

[dim sun]

WhiteSmith, ultra, Modernia, Stormbringer

2B did her time well

[woeful totem]

well TBF she is better than trony

[dim sun]

2B was one of the first few units of when they figured out how the game works

They very first units were probably summer anis and helm?

[woeful totem]

Alice nerf when?

Their big mistake

[dim sun]

Everytill till S.Mary/Neon was probably a mistake?

[short anchor]

https://tenor.com/view/angry-bunny-gun-gif-23859392

[dim sun]

Idk if I'm sure but it felt like their aim with Dorothy was to creep liter, which failed horribly

[short anchor]

This is Alice when she found you

[woeful totem]

Well when doro outs she was ok but not liter lvl

[dim sun]

Which was the only good unit in first 6 months that is still used (other than modernia)

[burnt tide]

They forgor that they have modes that need multiple teams

[woeful totem]

Most likely scarlet and currently meta in those days

[dim sun]

Technically if you're on lower FPS, scarlet is still meta

[woeful totem]

Imagine potato pc

[dim sun]

https://youtu.be/GQ57sHlrbqw?si=DTnT9-CUixr7pSRm

Poor lad

[woeful totem]

20% DMG lost

[dim sun]

More like 30% or smthng

[balmy beacon]

30% damage lost

thats like what

at 40 fps

right

[dim sun]

Yeah

Literally me

[short anchor]

Ah yes, NIKKE still depend on FPS

[woeful totem]

Pc config?

[dim sun]

"gaming" laptop

[woeful totem]

[short anchor]

i loves the brackets

[dim sun]

3050 Ti but can't run for shit

[balmy beacon]

I have good pc but it need repairs rn so I can't get 60 r

[short anchor]

you should have buy IPhone instead

[balmy beacon]

[dim sun]

I, for some reason, play wuwa at higher FPS than nikke

Idk how that fucking happens

[woeful totem]

Bro my 1080ti runs Nikke at 60fps

[short anchor]

NIKKE is only medium optimize

[woeful totem]

My laptop I meant

[dim sun]

Share settings of what you did to achieve this pls

[short anchor]

Optimize is very important, in fact, it's also consider a niche career as well

Give your games best of everything, but if optimize is shit, it won't playable

[dim sun]

DM if possible

[woeful totem]

I paid someone to optimise my laptop

in my city

[dim sun]

Fuck that's smart actually

I should do that

[woeful totem]

It works

no, replace old SSD for example

Idk I'm not a PC technician

Sometimes if you pc is old like mine they use an custom windows 10-11

With proper hardware config

is not like my pc can run cyberpunk at 120fps

My laptop I mean

But is ok

That is my laptop, I use it to open autocad

I play in my 4080

[deep canyon]

Nikke optimization is poor af

[woeful totem]

I9 14k

[dim sun]

Yeah it's definitely the game that's the problem

[woeful totem]

Yeah the main problem is nikke

[short anchor]

Replace is not an optimization, you have to milk the efficiency on current specs, that is optimization.
Basically, you have to configure settings to reach peak performance, milk every single $ worth of the hardware you bought

[dim sun]

Mtrfkrs where is Rosanna man
No way we get her skills TOMORROW

[short anchor]

Every pc and laptop when you get, doesn't optimize that well, so you have to manually do that

[deep canyon]

Idk what the dev teams are doing

[lapis bane]

more like

[short anchor]

translator only have one job...

[lapis bane]

turn off some random shit

[woeful totem]

Grab his own balls sure

[lapis bane]

put lap on high performance mode (which causes heat and fans overspin)

[deep canyon]

Turn off dmg number give a big boost in performance actually

[lapis bane]

should be

[dim sun]

I mean my current problem is definitely ram
But it's still funny that other games run at 50+ FPS but nikke runs lower xd

I have like
8 GB ram

My phone has more literally

[woeful totem]

8gb ok but what kind of ram?

[timber wharf]

just download more ram

[dim sun]

I think I shared it with
N3x

Lemme check

[woeful totem]

Snake you can build a low cost pc

[burnt tide]

Just use XRupee, the game will feel bad for you and boost your dmg

[woeful totem]

Pc are not expensive

A 3060ti is enough to play Nikke 60fps constantly

[dim sun]

I plan to build an expensive one next year tho

[woeful totem]

Nex built a 4070

[dim sun]

Cuz finally after next year I will stay in one place for 5-6 years straight

[woeful totem]

Just to play nikke

[deep canyon]

I'm still using 980ti

[woeful totem]

And lol

Imagine buy a 4070 for Nikke and lol

[short anchor]

NIKKE enter EOS next year before you finish the build

[fair beacon]

Wuwa also loads faster than nikke on my 3080 pc. So it’s not a hardware thing. It’s a nikke thing

[woeful totem]

Cyberpunk 4k for 4 hours

No lag

[short anchor]

I had to kill NIKKE yesterday as the game stuck loading, on my high-end pc

the heck

[woeful totem]

[fair beacon]

For nikke on pc the best upgrade is probably an ultrawide monitor

Imagine alteisen gameplay

Where he never gets outta the screen

😏

[balmy beacon]

have you guys checked if you're running nikke on your gpu

or integrated one

because that might be the issue

[short anchor]

no, I run it on PSU

[fair beacon]

Everything runs on the psu

[short anchor]

yes

[fair beacon]

[short anchor]

I speak da trUtH

[fair beacon]

Laptops with integrated and discrete graphics are a mess

Probably have to dive into settings and set power mode to maximum to convince the dumb thing to use the discrete gpu and not the shittier integrated one

[short anchor]

^

also, you can use software made by GPU'a manufacturer to get deep settings, customize settings to run a specific game

It helps depend, from low to a lot

[deep canyon]

just read her kit

looks reallly good

time to pull

[safe matrix]

suddenly, dots

[limber cedar]

some wording changes

[safe iris]

Alice is not meta?

[balmy beacon]

alice has 55% self buff

wdym

[safe iris]

Oh right her burst

[balmy beacon]

wait

you can't extend the burst dot

just the s2 dot

[real tiger]

So you need to destroy 1 part every 30 sec

For s2 to have 83% uptime

[raven seal]

now it's atk damage

[lapis bane]

[balmy beacon]

starting off with 15% seems decent

[lapis bane]

meta is DPS meta?

cuz Tia doesn't look like it to me

[real tiger]

I wonder if reapplying s2 reset the timer or add to it

[deep canyon]

s2 cd is 30s

duration is 15s

oh really +20 seconds

[real tiger]

I mean if you destroy 2 or more parts

[fair beacon]

So, did the rewording change anything drastically?

[deep canyon]

they better make it stack lol

imagine it resets

[lapis bane]

DoT buff won't affect burst sequence dmg

so it will lower her burst dmg a bit

[fair beacon]

Perfect

[woeful totem]

Tia who?

Oh the gal useful in solo raid

[limber cedar]

not much

skill1: from atk damage to sustained damage (5%)
skill2: from sustained damage to atk damage (15%)

fixed the wording about extending the s2 buff

[lapis bane]

her S2 at min can be 25.113.6% ATK
Her burst can deal 27.428.4% ATK
Her burst DoT can deal 38.324% ATK
Total 90.866% ATK

Mod shoots with 80% uptime will deal 95.040% ATK.

Well, we haven't accounted core shot, crit, bonus range which all benefits Mod, but you get the drill.

This is some nap kin math, in general Sakura dmg will still somewhat match Mod because she has her own dmg from gun (which is not much but still 30% total). And part just helps her even more.

[prime beacon]

So she’s good?

[deep canyon]

let me put it this way

its good that she's a wind dps

[dim sun]

Below mod

[fair beacon]

Need to see how much % she has

[deep canyon]

hopefully we can get away with 1/10/10

if the s1 duration increase is bound to skill ups this is a 10/10/10

should be fine right

ignore s1 ups

[fair beacon]

I'm tired of 10/10/10 units tbh damn

[lapis bane]

get well soon

[real tiger]

Good thing they hear the player's complaints and add simulation overclock that they run once in a fucking eternity and that doesn't give enough recourse to really lvling anything

[fair beacon]

Forget sim room oc

I can’t even level my damn dolls lol

[short anchor]

for F2P, you want 7/7/7 on many NIKKE so you can compete in raids

only 10/10/10 to push campaign

[woeful totem]

Lvl 8 RL R doll in lappy

Help me pls

No mats

[short anchor]

Just drop Lappy

[woeful totem]

[short anchor]

she is too costly tbh

the amount of exp spend for Lap, you can spend on other meta and NIKKE

sure RNG is one thing, but that would bring more benefit

[woeful totem]

Meta like who?

[random crypt]

Viper will ditch Leona fr

[woeful totem]

[fair beacon]

Sbs mod rh naga crown ate all my doll mats and non of them are still maxed. Sakura gonna have to stand in a LOOOOOONG line

[woeful totem]

Favorite item per month

And you build 1 in around 1-3 months

[hot mauve]

[fair beacon]

1 month if you’re extremely lucky with super successes and whale on dispatch

Normally should take 4-5

[hot mauve]

btw when will the new SI drop?

[fair beacon]

August I think?

New Sakura def gonna be useful for train

[hot mauve]

Hopefully this new SI will also drop some...doll mats

[woeful totem]

Imagine if they introduce new rng buff

Overload 2.0

[hot mauve]

[woeful totem]

[fair beacon]

https://tenor.com/view/jumping-out-of-window-suicide-so-done-gif-8423077

[woeful totem]

You laugh rn but is possible

[fair beacon]

who says i'm laughing

i'm crying

[woeful totem]

[whole bluff]

[hot mauve]

[deep canyon]

[cedar forge]

It was announced for August in a dev notes

[cold jacinth]

Any verdict yet? 1 copy min for collection?

[deep canyon]

it's 1 copy regardless, unless you don't care about collection, or can wait till next year

[thorny badge]

Sakura seems stronk
moreover she's a wind attacker we are severely lacking
one copy is a must for SR imo

[deep canyon]

sakura 1 copy is a good idea for raids it will take a long time before she's removed as a wind niche

and maybe she's decent too for pvp

[unique bramble]

So against Iron Mod is better still?

[woeful totem]

Another Momo?

[deep canyon]

sakura

[fleet berry]

Doubt she's decent for pvp, she will immediately dish out a sustained dps against the top dps unit but her burst itself seems unreliable as hell (since its random) and what the hell does "Attack sequentially" even means?
She's also AR, so in the best case scenario, she might find some usage in an attack comp if you're desperate enough I guess

[deep canyon]

attack is exactly where i was thinking she has some niche use

of course far from a recommended pull

but she's a character you can use in some cases

and maybe with team 4-5 she can be part of a weird stall team

[woeful totem]

MLB

For lobby

[deep canyon]

i didn't consider her for the burst but her burst attacking randomly can do some real dmg too at least it won't be stuck on a single target that has indom

[balmy shale]

As stated by someone earlier, it's likely a multi-hit that's actually tracked in order

for the purpose of applying the stacks

[woeful totem]

MLB lobby

[balmy shale]

But we need to wait until the unit is actually out to click the tooltip

[woeful totem]

[balmy shale]

For all we know, it could have a weird place in the formula like fixed damage

Imagine it doesn't deal element like Doro burst

[deep canyon]

can someone get 4x ele% on her to test in pvp vs iron?

[woeful totem]

Noo doro no

[balmy shale]

I'm planning to OL her immediately

Got +5s ready, but my rock supply is low

[deep canyon]

i am praying to get ele%

[balmy shale]

so I probably won't get much ele

[hazy vessel]

Do I have to pull her to do well in solo raid?

[balmy shale]

Probably, yeah, cuz Wind raid

[woeful totem]

Yeah I guess her best cheap ols are X4 ele

[balmy shale]

We can afford to ignore units in Electric and Iron raids, but not the others

[deep canyon]

if you only care about 3% you can skip if you have the other meta characters

but if you want that top 200 better pull

[balmy shale]

Ah yeah, if only 3%, then yeah, you're fine

[woeful totem]

X4 ele X4 atks X4 hit rate?

[balmy shale]

Well, if you're JP, then you may still need her for 3%

[woeful totem]

[deep canyon]

jp better mlb her

top 10%

[woeful totem]

I'm aiming top 200 so is must pull for me

[modern dagger]

Can't even imagine aiming top 200

But I am also on JP server

[woeful totem]

Kek

[deep canyon]

if you start a new account on global you will be better in half a year than you are rn on jp

[modern dagger]

Lol good joke

CP in this game is directly proportional to days played

[balmy shale]

CP doesn't matter in SR tho

[deep canyon]

we talking raids

[modern dagger]

Oh that's true

[balmy shale]

Well, CP itself doesn't

[modern dagger]

Trading ok PvP placement for better SR

[deep canyon]

you just need 4 rocks for 80% ele on your sbs

[balmy shale]

Of course higher CP is related to higher stats, so technically does matter

[deep canyon]

if you believe

[balmy shale]

but no penalty

[deep canyon]

sbs will carry us so hard

[woeful totem]

120% top 100

[modern dagger]

Regardless getting a few extra gems each SR isn't worth giving up all the gems I've spent so far

[woeful totem]

[modest parcel]

my SBS is a god so I sleep

[deep canyon]

in my experience, only pilgrims are worth mlb or more

my lb0 SAnis still doing fine

[woeful totem]

I MLB cuz lobby

XD

[modest parcel]

^

[modern dagger]

I'll probably do one copy just because Collab is soon and I don't wanna have to : 💳

[lapis bane]

I MLB Clay

I lie

[modest parcel]

especially cause pilgrims are way harder to get

[lapis bane]

[modest parcel]

save for limiteds

[deep canyon]

i have not seen a single character thats worth mlb

2% is fuck all peanuts

[modest parcel]

but yeah

[deep canyon]

mf you dont even play the game anymore

[balmy shale]

Does Alice count as a Pilgrim?

[modest parcel]

theres also summer part 2

[lapis bane]

[woeful totem]

Yes

[modest parcel]

and then collab

[woeful totem]

She counts

[modest parcel]

and then anni

[lapis bane]

waiting for 421

[modest parcel]

[lapis bane]

I still try hard company tower

[deep canyon]

oh wait i forgot to play Elysion tower today

still stuck at F210 Nihilister

[modest parcel]

you guys play elysion tower?

[lapis bane]

[modest parcel]

[lapis bane]

I'm at 303 now

[woeful totem]

You need CP blue in elysion

[lapis bane]

it's too easy once you have built Guillo + Diesel Treasure

[woeful totem]

[modest parcel]

i cant clear on blue cp cause the team is so ass

[lapis bane]

I can tank Nihi all day

[modest parcel]

yeah… not happening

[woeful totem]

Elysion needs a good sniper pierce

So Diana can buff someone

[modest parcel]

elysion just needs a good anything other than B1

[deep canyon]

i already pass 28-7 for 75 core dust, so i can chill now

the mfs who end the game only at 77 now

77.98 btw, lmao

[balmy shale]

Pretty much all of my towers are even

[woeful totem]

Also Diana helps in those insane scenarios

[balmy shale]

Held back cuz this anni I want to see what happens if all are tied

[deep canyon]

my main dps is a 4/4/4 mpriv and normal priv

so pushing that tower won't happen

[woeful totem]

Did you see those scenarios when the battle didn't start and the raptures are charging their dmg?

[deep canyon]

yes

[modest parcel]

that happens on a lot of levels

it fucking sucks

[deep canyon]

many in fact

[modest parcel]

they’re usually the 1 shot raptures too

[woeful totem]

And you have like 1.2 seconds to charge burst

[deep canyon]

the electric weak chapters are usually rough

ie 27 and 28

cuz the electric dps are ass

[balmy shale]

That's why I still use Centi in campaign sometimes

Those stupid pre-charged raptures

[deep canyon]

cover + spam shot alice and reset if they all targeted the same nikke

those stages are unfair

[shrewd jewel]

The ones that are truly unfair is where they spawn farters at ur face and ur already half dead before u can control the game

Thanks game I didn't want to play for half my HP bar anyways

[modern dagger]

Just bring Rapunzel

Not every stage should be DPS only

[fair beacon]

what happens if you don’t have rapunzel

[deep canyon]

naga

[fair beacon]

https://tenor.com/view/nikke-naga-naga-burst-godess-of-victory-nagamadmike-gif-17032661621212077000

[balmy shale]

Oh, important note I just realized while watching a JP pre-release analysis on SSakura

She'll need fast burst gen for her skills to work together properly

S1 forces S2 to activate at the beginning of battle, buffing sustained damage for 15s, meaning for full burst damage, she needs to get into full burst by the 5s mark

S2 has a 30s cooldown, meaning that, if you miss it, you'll end up in a loop where you keep missing it potentially

(or one just needs to burst with her second in a slow gen team)

[deep canyon]

kraken i believe hides midway through

and you do the whole qte thing

can fuck up burst timings

[shrewd jewel]

Imagine if rapu could heal 50% of my HP every 2s maybe she would actually have a spot in pve

[modern dagger]

In theory her DoT should generate burst like Harran.

So she'll have really good burst for an AR at least

[modern dagger]

I bring Rapu to any stage with the gas fucks and it works every time

Dunno what to say

Build your Rapu so she isn't a big CP loss maybe.

[woeful totem]

Xmica RCO SBIS Rh dolla

[balmy shale]

With a lot of people here intentionally pushing the CP deficit, no amount of CP will ultimately help

[shrewd jewel]

That's actually not true because of weapon diff

Getting 3 extra ar bullets worth of gen isn't the same as 3 shots of sniper worth of gen

It'll be slightly above what her gun normally does but I would say don't expect it to be too much more

3 hits of a normal ar is like .75 more gen

[weak ether]

Ready to be baited 200 pulls 1 copy

Pepelaugh

[rigid needle]

who do we even have to break ele shield circles for the 5 teams?

sbs noir volume

now sakura and what else?

[deep canyon]

sakura is wind

i mean

rosanna is wind

i think we can split them

this already makes 5 characters but there are other options like guilty who should be able to dish out some real dmg with ele%

[rigid needle]

i supose she'd go on SG team right?

replace leona?

[balmy shale]

Diesel's an option

[rigid needle]

assuming you have her treasure

[balmy shale]

Even if you don't, she can break QTEs

[deep canyon]

i went for laplace gg

[woeful totem]

Guys build the parts team cope

[deep canyon]

D the B3 dps is she a good option?

[woeful totem]

Doro Rosanna sbis

[deep canyon]

pepper/dolla are wind too we're fine

[rigid needle]

they are?

nice

[balmy shale]

Yup yup

We have a decent amount of usable non-DPS units in Wind

It's just DPS that's lacking badly

[rigid needle]

she does have a ton of ele +

too bad she's smg

[deep canyon]

kraken is ez to hit

like soline vs gravedigger was nice

[balmy shale]

Yeah, D could potentially see use

[rigid needle]

now who has a built D...

[woeful totem]

Doro, Rosanna, midkura, D, privsty

P1

[rigid needle]

wait doesnt laplace have part damage bonus?

[hazy vessel]

She does but it barely matters

[woeful totem]

Plappy p2

[hazy vessel]

On last bullet/full charge

[woeful totem]

[rigid needle]

i mean on full charge matters a lot tho

[hazy vessel]

No the raw number for it is really small

[woeful totem]

Not only me the 99% of the population

[rigid needle]

i got hella lucky on my lappy doll rolls

hopefully i get some more drops to fully level her treasure from the SR

[hazy vessel]

Meanwhile me struggling with 2000/3000 in phase 12

[deep canyon]

i have not used my doll exp yet

been waitin for that raid to show me who to invest into

probably sbs is the right answer

how could it not be sbs with wind weak

[safe iris]

Sbs barely benefits from the doll

[kindred plume]

Do I pull?

[dim sun]

wait for tomorrow

i will put in sakura and rosanna syp together

[deep canyon]

sakura the 'how lucky are you rolling ele%' nikke

[shrewd jewel]

Soline also has a burst that's bugged af and twice the fire rate of a normal smg

[rigid needle]

i was gonna pull regardless cause limited unit, SSakura being good is just a plus

[shrewd jewel]

Her burst additional damage casually out there hitting 3x as much and snapshotting full burst buffs

[desert willow]

I'm pulling for Rosanna no matter what cause i have the hots for her. But for Sakura i'll wait to see if she's good or not

(not saying Sakura isnt hot, just my preferences)

[deep canyon]

sakura is good for sr raid

when you need a wind dps

that's going to be the deciding factor between pulling her or not

[weak ether]

wrong

she has 2 big factors

[grave lintel]

her 2 melons?

[weak ether]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1095182841962303508/1157518291514970252/Untitled_video_-_Made_with_Clipchamp.gif?ex=6518e66a&is=651794ea&hm=69d5706b3aa33930077a425fd525fb6923c835e5ba0b6ccc175addb5975aaaa0&

[leaden flame]

Godsanna out
Making godkura even more transcended

[modest junco]

so, both Sakura and Rosanna has Damage over Time huh ?

[short anchor]

yes

[woeful totem]

Mlb

Cute lobby

[modern dagger]

For wind in every team:

• Bunnies
• SBS
• Rosco/Sakura:BiS
• Volume (she's a wind attacker... In theory)
• least shit option out of Dolla, Pepper, Xmas Anne, Noah

Without Rouge splitting bunnies isn't viable, Rosco & Sakura:BiS could be split but I suspect better to just throw a bad wind Nikke into team 5 and call it a day

Real question is whether "always consistently decent" SG team is viable without any wind members

[polar trout]

[woeful totem]

Mlb

I know I'm spamming, sorry mods

[ornate sky]

guilty is wind and sg

[deep canyon]

you can even put rosanna in the shotgun team if you wanted to

[timber wharf]

hello, tomorrow here

[woeful totem]

Must MLB

[dim sun]

Should you pull? / Is she good?

I think she is good. Taking everything into consideration, pull one copy.

Dupes?
I believe in one copy being sufficient.
Dupes if you tryhard raids, but one copy is definitely fine.

S.Sakura will act as a DPS against wind weak Solo Raid bosses. She possible has use in PvP as well because of her sustained damage having very good values. She may see use against Bosses with parts where the element does not favour her as well possibly! In an incomplete roster (newer players), Sakura can easily slot into teams that lack proper DPS units. I am not currently sure about how the synergy of S.Rosanna and S.Sakura will work but regardless, Sakura will always be there against Wind Weak Bosses. The reason? Read below.

Why is Sakura: Bloom in Summer good?
We are at a point in Nikke where elemental advantage based teams are becoming more and more coherent and useful. In raids, we have seen some prominent DPS units dropping out and coming back in depending on the element of the boss! The major unit of comparison here is none other than Scarlet (this one).

Sakura's DPS can directly compare to that of Scarlet, since she does slightly higher in equal conditions. However, when we give either of these a Boss where the elemental is in their favour, both will slot in easily! Scarlet is one of the best Electric DPS, and when properly built, easily slots in the top 3 teams!

Similarly, we do not have a lot of Wind DPS. Realistically, we only have Scarlet: Black Shadow, and Guilty if you want to be generous. The remaining slots are filled with the usual DPS like RH, Alice, Modernia etc. But now, S.Sakura can out-damage some of these prominent units, and thus will come into play against Wind Weak Solo Raid Bosses! Rest assured, when properly built, she will show good results.

Pull a copy if youre new and lack a DPS unit for raids. Pull a copy if youre old since we're moving towards element based meta!

[grave fractal]

[whole bluff]

sakakakura

[shrewd jewel]

Snake calling me a boomer

[grave fractal]

[balmy shale]

https://tenor.com/view/savingprivateryan-ww2-old-soldier-matt-damon-gif-4203998

With every pull

[pallid axle]

MLB it is

[vale pike]

Old and still no 2nd heretic

[fair beacon]

literally getting older waiting for reset to be over

[hazy vessel]

You do realize that we've had only 2 (soon 3) wind weak solo raids

[shrewd jewel]

And then next time we will have 4

And u will be missing wind DPS

[hazy vessel]

Iron land eater?

[shrewd jewel]

Ngl

Land water with these 2

Respawning parts stonks

[sweet wedge]

imagine not pulling the one of only two proper wind dps in the game

and the only other one being a pilgrim

[stable jackal]

What cube are you guys giving her?

[hazy vessel]

You know I'm working on Bscar

[polar trout]

After getting S Sakura, should I get S Mary from last summer or she isn’t really needed?

[deep canyon]

skip

[balmy shale]

Provided about as much damage paired with SBS as Alice did on auto (shooting range boss)

Currently no dupes, 4/4/4, all OLs +0 and depressingly no ele%

[woeful totem]

crown dps powercreep

[deep canyon]

crown went crazy during the iron weak raids

[pallid axle]

And so it was, PEAK lobby

[balmy shale]

vs SI BS, focusing gun

vs SI BS, focusing core

[rotund vapor]

So she is essentially wait for Rosanna to come out and decide?

[balmy shale]

Rosanna + better bosses

She should perform better vs Chatterbox, Modernia, and Alteisen in SI

Shooting range she's at a disadvantage since no parts whatsoever

She's already looking good enough for me to be satisfied though

[rotund vapor]

Chatterbox I guess so long as you aren't counting his core

[balmy shale]

Why not?

[thorny mesa]

i got my 1 copy now i wait for rosa

[copper heart]

well, for current raid she's a good dps, but how about the next SR?

[hot mauve]

[tame minnow]

she's worth getting right? (moot point I spent 7 rolls getting her)

[weak ether]

Why she ded instantly

[leaden flame]

Pos1 and jackal linked to ros and drake most likely

[hot mauve]

yeah

[uncut river]

at least she kills that scarlet hmm

[lapis bane]

kinda expected

Fire Boss

so no one has any advantage. Locking scope too cuz my 1/1/1 is kek

and need fast test before work

her dmg at max may be 90% of Mod here because her burst hits slower than I thought