[Soda: Twinkling Bunny] New Unit Megathread

[lucid nest]

well she's not meta breaking or something

but she's a strong SG for SG team

[tight grove]

1 copy worthy

[lucid nest]

whoever resets Tove, can skip now

[foggy anchor]

Still top 5 dmg dealer?

[quartz orchid]

[fierce lake]

but I still have tove

[lucid nest]

then reset her

so you can skip

[tight grove]

i was on the fence about resetting Tove or mpriv, glad i made the right choice

[sharp widget]

I never invested in Tove/Leona from the start, but I have skill mats sitting around in case I need to...

M Priv I have at 10/10/10 tho

[tight grove]

i'm just waiting to see how alice interacts with all this to decide because i think she will work with this team

[sharp widget]

Yup, B Alice will determine everything xD

[lucid nest]

BAlice increases Soda's stack but I don't think it matters

[sharp widget]

We don't know the rest of the kit

[heavy flint]

If BAlice ends up being a B2 can be run along side leona so that PrivM can shine.

If she is B1, then we will need to see if her burst is better than Tove's to decide who bursts on those rotations.

[tight grove]

if balice fails we'll just kick rapunzel out and pair her with crown

[heavy flint]

Tove's buff comes from her S1 so it doesn't matter if she bursts or not

[sharp widget]

B Soda's kit description in patch notes had said nothing about buffing other DPS units or extending burst time, so plenty of potential for B Alice

[sweet panther]

balice increasing tove burst duration

[sharp widget]

Or just have B Alice sit as off-burst B1 the entire time for her skill effects

All we know about her burst atm is that it's extra heals

[lucid nest]

wait

I just remember

[wicked knot]

hope her skill stack increase not tied to burst

[sweet panther]

tove s1 and burst counts as stacks

[lucid nest]

that fucking Tove S1 is 3 stacks

[sweet panther]

so balice extends burst buff

[lucid nest]

[sweet panther]

and s1

[lucid nest]

Alice is B2?

[heavy flint]

Something tells me it will be heals + stacks

[wicked knot]

no confirmation

[sweet panther]

not out yet

[lucid nest]

damn

[sweet panther]

but if b2 thats some stonks

[lucid nest]

Tove perma buff is just insane

[wicked knot]

if her stacks increase does not tied with burst

then we ballin

leona still gonna stay right? even if it's B2

[sharp widget]

If Alice buffs stacks off-burst, then no reason to remove Tove or Leona

[sweet panther]

tbh leona doesnt really need to burst

[lucid nest]

yeah

her burst is meh

[uncut fiber]

Best case scenario, Alice is a "re-enter B1"

[wicked knot]

oh, ok

[sharp widget]

If Leona doesn't burst, what point is there to use her with B Soda then?

[sweet panther]

everything we care about is here

for mpriv atleast

[sharp widget]

vs GD, Leona's S1 isn't that useful, and her S2 is pointless for B Soda

[lucid nest]

yeah

[sweet panther]

u still have mpriv right 🍵

[fierce lake]

that pellet mechanic is the lamest copout I've ever seen

[lucid nest]

but 50% Hit rate for Soda is kinda nice keke

[sweet panther]

• range damage tech in for some bosses

iirc crystal chamber required leona to be in range bonus

[lucid nest]

because with 44% hr from 4 OL lines, you can core shot 100% during Soda burst

[wicked knot]

crit rate on SG doesn't matter?

[opal lantern]

kraken too

[lucid nest]

which is Sugar lmao

[sharp widget]

There are better crit buffers

[opal lantern]

Sanis PrivM was best team for kraken water

[wicked knot]

ok fair

[sweet panther]

ya so if i dont need healing im more than happy bursting leona, otherwise im also happy not bursting leona

and if literally none of it is needed im also happy replacing her

[opal lantern]

it matters A LOT

[wicked knot]

if next SR is GD, we don't need healer

[sharp widget]

We think

[lost veldt]

Soda is Clip SG, therefore good for PvP (?)

[little sand]

Lol a full frontal wave crash of 5 units is gonna hit hard on my saved material.

[sharp widget]

Who knows what mechanics they'll add to it

[little sand]

This is so ass.

[opal lantern]

Tove herself is 78% + the DPS already has at least 55% themselves

[little sand]

[opal lantern]

Scarlet level dilution

Soda wants crit rate lines

[sharp widget]

Where is B Soda getting 55% crit rate?

[opal lantern]

@lucid nest chip refreshment timing important

cus if u stack slowly

[tribal salmon]

Using Vesti with B Soda to cancel burst extension for no reason

[opal lantern]

ur attacks will have less crit damage

[lucid nest]

you lose like

18% CD bro

[sharp widget]

[lucid nest]

and gain it back every 2s

less with Tove

[sharp widget]

Teeny numbers

[lucid nest]

anw, I think I get a hold of her dmg now

time to wuwa till Alice

[charred swan]

guys... she is iron

can we get another good nikke beside iron please

[sharp widget]

Nope

[lucid nest]

[sharp widget]

Wind and Water doomed to suck

[lucid nest]

she's better Sugar

[fierce lake]

sorry instruction unclear
here's another tetra duo

[lucid nest]

that's gud enough

[sharp widget]

Fire's damage was all stuffed into Alice and Mod

[foggy anchor]

Wind = SBS
Water = XLud

Take it or leave it

[sharp widget]

Electric units are masochists

[lucid nest]

be grateful that water still has Xlud

[quartz orchid]

water has too many chances tbh

wind still has some shot

[lucid nest]

other looks like ants

[sweet panther]

water has emilia

[wicked knot]

and rem

[fierce lake]

electric is both buffed and limited by sanis

[lucid nest]

only alive with parts

and Rem-set?

[sweet panther]

emilia is only alive because shes water tbh

[charred swan]

and they are tetra

[sharp widget]

I care too much about union raid to reset Rem

[sweet panther]

if she wasnt water i would have 🚮

[sharp widget]

Need all of the water DPS we can get

[lucid nest]

I know Rem-set will happen when Austin praised her

[charred swan]

you mean only

[quartz orchid]

for me because of pvp

[sharp widget]

Yeah, she's strong in PvP

[rose mango]

@lucid nest can soda cook as main b3 in pee v pee? i dont see anything else shed be doing other than being a burst gen

[sweet panther]

its prob pvp gen

her nuke is just a bad mpriv

[rose mango]

yeah damn

[sweet panther]

or bad maiden

[rose mango]

kek

[lucid nest]

if only her ATK buff is translated into burst dmg

else battery

[sweet panther]

usually those buffs dont translate iirc?

like mpriv atk dmg didnt

[lost veldt]

Clip SG though

[lucid nest]

yeah

[lost veldt]

Burst gen will probably be very good

[sweet panther]

burst gen will be as good as a clip sg

but shes probably the best filler clip sg along noir that we have?

full burst duration +5s is only neutral or positive (if battle is long), s2 still procs, s1 still procs

[lucid nest]

so my last consensus

• Dmg is around Modernia.
• Only requires SG team
• Kinda lame on PVP beside battery

[wicked knot]

well..at least i could retire either sugar or drake for good

[fierce lake]

damage is around mod? But I thought shotgun is a shitty weapon

[sweet panther]

have u heard of tove

[opal moon]

Is bunny soda still probably needed for tove leona build?

[lucid nest]

Tove yes

[wicked knot]

it's a must for that build

[lucid nest]

Leona nah

Tove is a must

Tove = SG team

[sweet panther]

tove is required for any SG imo

[opal moon]

How come no leona this time?

[sweet panther]

if no tove why r u using sg

[lucid nest]

without Tove, you can build any team

[sweet panther]

go use different team

[sharp widget]

M Priv isn't the focus

that's why

[lucid nest]

because Leona gives meh buff to Soda

why? Read

[opal moon]

Oh what

[lucid nest]

[sharp widget]

Leona's S2 pellet mechanic only does anything for M Priv

because more pellets = same damage just spread out for all other SGs

[sweet panther]

technically it increases ur average dmg output

u get less highroll and less low roll

[opal moon]

Ok so that only applies for Mpriv

[sharp widget]

Yeah, but negligible

M Priv has unique mechanic desiring more pellets

so Leona will be more desirable if we're running M Priv with B Soda

[sweet panther]

they just needed to make leona pellets give shotguns 50% more conversion

then tove leona would be cooking

[lucid nest]

so, who should I pair with Calcharo?

[wicked knot]

welp...not like you going to use other B3 SG than mpriv anyway

[lucid nest]

or Encore

[sharp widget]

but say we use B Soda and Sugar, Leona can be sacrificed

[wicked knot]

oh..sugar is still an option

shit

[sharp widget]

Sugar is Iron, yeah

[fierce lake]

sanhua encore is a staple

[sharp widget]

Though I doubt most people have enough investment in her to make her worth it

[lucid nest]

must be Sanhua?

damn

[fierce lake]

best option

calcharo, wait for the redhead

[lucid nest]

I don't find Encore attack too much

E then pew pew pew => Hold => Swap lol

[sweet panther]

after soda im hoping balice can be low investment

[sharp widget]

heh

What are low investment units?

[tight grove]

wuwa 🚮

[sweet panther]

healers

[sharp widget]

True

(except Naga)

[lucid nest]

[late knot]

Guys I only have lion dance guy and flower girl am I rekt

[sweet panther]

all my healers r like 444 or unless they have somthing that buffs dmg

[lucid nest]

and Blanc

[late knot]

[sharp widget]

Blanc is still pretty cheap

4/4/10 works fine

[sweet panther]

4/4/10 is pretty cheap at this point

[lucid nest]

[sharp widget]

Compared to Naga 10/10/10

[lucid nest]

I can't even afford 4/4/10 Maiden

[fierce lake]

if you have the furry, it is mandatory that you reroll immediately.
that acc is bricked forever

[sweet panther]

same

but imagine if u had to 10/10/10 like alot of dps/dmg supports

[rose mango]

Crit synergy tho?
80% crit rate together and pellet increase needed for mpriv

[sweet panther]

[rose mango]

Iirc it's like 30% crit from Leona and 50% from soda herself

[sharp widget]

B Soda doesn't have crit rate

[sweet panther]

soda gives crit rate?

[sharp widget]

Read again

It's crit damage

[rose mango]

Wait is that S1 crit dmg?

[sharp widget]

Yes

[rose mango]

FFS

[quartz orchid]

you think the X stacks requirement is checked before or after she loses 17?

[sharp widget]

I said that before

[lucid nest]

I don't even reply

don't feed the troll

[sharp widget]

For S2, it's before

[little sand]

Lol

[lucid nest]

sad that S1 also gives Attack Damage

so you still have to up it

[sharp widget]

It's when Burst Stage 3 is entered, aka, after Burst 2

[sweet panther]

what if i dont, how much r they going to shaft me

[sharp widget]

for burst, no idea

Need testing to know that

[lucid nest]

not much, I mean from 4% => 10% lol

6% dmg lost, what could it be

[sharp widget]

She'll be much better if it reads stacks pre-deduction

[lucid nest]

4/4/7 and move on

[sweet panther]

from 4 to 10?

i think its prob 4 or 7

[lucid nest]

may be 5/5/7

[quartz orchid]

ah it’s written

[sweet panther]

max

[quartz orchid]

in the desc

[sweet panther]

s2 seems pretty good

[quartz orchid]

effect is applied before the -17

[sharp widget]

Ohhh yeah

[lucid nest]

scaling is like MPriv

[sweet panther]

s2 is basically mpriv s1

[lucid nest]

should be 4 > 10

[sharp widget]

"after the effect applied"

[sweet panther]

which isnt bad

[lucid nest]

oh true

I forgot it adds scaling

5/10/7

[quartz orchid]

what if fb extension scales with level

[lucid nest]

save your mat for Yinlin

[quartz orchid]

so you can not level s2 and use cdr

[lucid nest]

or Rosanna

[sweet panther]

ya something like that sounds right to me

[quartz orchid]

[charred swan]

I bet the starting chips scale

[lucid nest]

or Tove

[rose mango]

Now when are they telling us about treasure huh

[sharp widget]

S2 secondary effect requires it being levelled

[lucid nest]

[charred swan]

and you have to max s1

[rose mango]

Sorry, FAVOURITE ITEMS

[sweet panther]

it might but i dont think going above 7 will be major value

[sharp widget]

+137.06% final ATK as damage every normal attack during FB

[sweet panther]

just... dont burst with soda first

[sharp widget]

S2 is mandatory invest

[rose mango]

Damn, is it 3 straight dead days?

[sweet panther]

snake can u ask them to give me another 2x sim room bonus week

[rose mango]

<t:1717012799:f>
(ends <t:1717012799:R>)

Nvm trony ending on may 30

[sweet panther]

my books r crying

[rose mango]

Didn't you reset anyone?

[sweet panther]

no

[rose mango]

I am swimming in books rn

[rose mango]

I reset rem lmfao

And guillo

[opal moon]

Same here

[sweet panther]

these are my books atm

[tight grove]

fuck i forgot to reset Guillo

[rose mango]

That's like, 10/10/8?

[sweet panther]

im definately not hurting hard but if i level soda/balice

[sharp widget]

I reset Guillo a while back

[sweet panther]

i will be hurting

[sweet panther]

yea but i wana go level rosanna

[rose mango]

Alice will be prolly be xMica type investment

[sweet panther]

and some other pvp stuff

[rose mango]

4/7/7 working fine for me in PvP for Rosanna
Just 10 day

[sweet panther]

i even still have to level dwife past 4/10/4

[sturdy canopy]

Im chillin

Ready for bunnies + summer

[rose mango]

Bruh

[lost veldt]

Mf, you should have told me, mine is 4/10/9 already

[rose mango]

Aren't you a PvP nut

Go 4/10/10

[cold sluice]

hope this will be enough

[rose mango]

glban

[lost veldt]

But burst books are lacking though....

[sweet panther]

i coulda reset rem but i dont think reseting rem is a good play atm

[tight grove]

Hey gang whats the consensus? she should be pretty good right?

[cold sluice]

Her kit is really good

[sweet panther]

shes pretty tove

if u dont tove

[cold sluice]

If you have an invested SG comp

[sweet panther]

shes no good

[cold sluice]

Tove Leona

[tight grove]

yeah makes sense, good for SG, good for SG.

[sweet panther]

my entire sw team buffers r also 444

[rose mango]

Imo if I ever need to use rem, it'll be for T4 with volume+rem

But I can just go crown + Rapunzel and use Doro+priv

[tight grove]

So do we know alice? she might help with stacking or something. or be completely isolated from her.

[rose mango]

SW team competes with tove

[cold sluice]

Still no info about BAlice

[rose mango]

Yeah, we have her kit

[cold sluice]

should be tomorrow

[sharp widget]

We know she heals and increases stack amount

That's it

[rose mango]

||https://www.prydwen.gg/nikke/characters/alice||

Alice^

[sweet panther]

i used rem last union raid i still have to 1tap those UR bosses

[sharp widget]

I used Rem and Emilia last UR

[tight grove]

bruh

[sweet panther]

i definately did not use emilia

[cold sluice]

Just belive in Tove

[sweet panther]

that sounds like a loss

[sharp widget]

Nah, using a stronger unit and overkilling is DPS loss

Better to save for the other hits

[rose mango]

How the hell does rem have space in UR

[sweet panther]

we have more than enough for other teams no? but i guess i ran liter crown priv

[rose mango]

Just use bunnies

[sharp widget]

I didn't use bunnies

[cold sluice]

Rem got powercreeped so fast

[rose mango]

Ok then use tove

[cold sluice]

LMAO

[sweet panther]

bunnies couldnt kill it

it was dual ring water weak

[rose mango]

Get more ele on xmommy

[cold sluice]

I forgot to reset Rem

[sharp widget]

X Lud needed for train

[sweet panther]

both my rem and my xlud are 2-3 ele

[rose mango]

What

Why is burst 10 but not s1

[sweet panther]

my train was liter crown alice priv mod

[cold sluice]

Don't ask me

[rose mango]

Terrible use of books shino

[cold sluice]

My brain was off in Nihilister SR

[sharp widget]

Oh wait, I didn't hit train

[night pewter]

sanhua or jianxin,
but prolly wait for yinlin to actually invest mats into

[sweet panther]

ultra is easy sw rh, so last team u get stuck with volume rem xlud + so many choices, maxwell/sbs ect

atleast for me

[sharp widget]

Only got to mock

I used Miranda/S Helm/Helm/SW/Yulha for Ultra

[cold sluice]

I had to reset Soline and Sugar after Indivilia SR

[sharp widget]

That's why I didn't use bunnies

[cold sluice]

[rose mango]

Imo rem isn't high up enough than my bunny team

[sharp widget]

Crown team, JKs, and SW comp

[rose mango]

For me to use her in UR

[sweet panther]

what if u rem+noir

[rose mango]

I'm almost lvl400 anyways in 2 months so.. yeah

[rose mango]

My main DPS is xLud
3 ele 2 atk 2 ammo

[rose mango]

I think it's that

[sweet panther]

ironically when i was mocking dual ring volume rem sbs xlud noir

was the team that killed it consistently fastest

with my remaining units

[sharp widget]

Ah right, my alt used Alice for SBS vs Rebuild Stout

[sweet panther]

i tried maxwell but dumbass rem kept stealing s1

[sharp widget]

so I had to go RH/X Lud vs train

[rose mango]

Anyways we have Leona for water DPS now

Tove god is in play from now on

[sharp widget]

lol

Realistically at least one of the new summer units should be water

[rose mango]

||I'm kidding btw just in case someone trust this statement ||

[sharp widget]

so as long as we don't get S Neon 2.0, we can hope

[charred swan]

she extends burst even when she doesn't burst right

[sharp widget]

Yes

As long as she has the chips

[charred swan]

then they really went and made sg comps ignore cdr huh

[sharp widget]

Brits wondering why this bunny girl has so many French fries

[sharp widget]

Honestly nice to see

CDR is a really oppressive stat

[cold sluice]

extra 5s fb will ignore CDR

[sharp widget]

Being able to make viable teams that don't rely on CDR is kind of refreshing

[cold sluice]

Also I think they think CDR in SG comp is too strong

Fast burst gen, high dmg

[sharp widget]

Makes me feel bad for most B1s

[solid quarry]

now make team thar revive Isabel

[wheat hill]

this girl would be SSS if she wasn't Iron. SS then

[winged quail]

No

All you need to revive is remove that -5s

[sharp widget]

Is that really enough?

[solid quarry]

Surely Alice add 5s to FB

[sharp widget]

I feel like that's not enough

[solid quarry]

tbf with Tove steroids for SG is it's enough to be usable

[lucid nest]

nowadays, SG always has additional modifier

old one like Shitgar is gone

[sharp widget]

Nah, probably just doubles stack gain

[lucid nest]

that's also huge on Tove

but not too huge

prolong the stacks is something I love

[sharp widget]

Since B Soda's stacks have no time limit (as far as what's described), doubtful B Alice will provide that

[rocky plinth]

Yinlin

[torn thunder]

Meme idea: Tove Blanc mpriv soda Noir

[rose mango]

Meme indeed

[sweet panther]

ironically we're not too far from a universe where that might be a play

[torn thunder]

This feels like gravedigger might be next

And Tove stonks

[sweet panther]

bunny is like 3rd to 4th best right

[torn thunder]

I'd put bunnies with Bscar Alice

[sweet panther]

so if u have a sw team and a non bunny team then tove bunny exists

[sweet panther]

have u heard of this one really cool nikke, her name is crown

and she craps out buffs for breakfast

[torn thunder]

Because that team struggles with interception circles

[sharp widget]

JKs
Crown
SW
Dorovity
Tove Bunnies

[sweet panther]

but u have crown

[torn thunder]

Crown doesn't auto-aim circles

[sweet panther]

aim better

need nikke aim labs

[torn thunder]

Gravedigger solo raid next week?

[cold sluice]

I dont knmow

Can't predict

[sharp widget]

Not confirmed

[sweet panther]

solo raid will be... ||a rapture|| i can confirm this

[sharp widget]

I want it to be Electric Kraken just for the surprise element

[sweet panther]

theres no way

solo raid always is weak to newest units element

[opal moon]

Probably a boss with a different element this time?

[sweet panther]

solo raid is advertisement for new units

every time

[full laurel]

based

[sweet panther]

surely they didnt make a fire circle requirement 4 part blacksmith that respawns parts for a2 and never used it again

or a 4 pierce iron weak for rh

[torn thunder]

Or a fire dragon for Rem and Emilia

[glacial axle]

inb4 this Solo Raid is Gravedigger

[sweet panther]

tbh people really like sg on GD but sg on gd is kinda meh

it helps with circles but dmg wise big meh

[sharp widget]

Electric is weak to Iron

[glacial axle]

I used to be like that till RH came along

[torn thunder]

The problem is with phase 3

If you miss the first set of circles your team is wiped

[sweet panther]

mod already out dpsed every sg

[sweet panther]

why miss

[prisma owl]

soda bunny good or no?

[torn thunder]

Bad burst timing

[sweet panther]

but u control that

[opal moon]

I'm pretty sure it's not the 1st 3 circles

[torn thunder]

No the first 3 circles of phase 3

[opal moon]

Yes I'm aware

[sweet panther]

tbh gd SR would probably be closer to union raid GD more than SI

[torn thunder]

Go see SI

[opal moon]

I'm saying once phase 3 starts, it doesn't begin with 3 circles

[sweet panther]

special interception bosses all are missing mechanics

[torn thunder]

Oh the one with like 15 circles?

[sharp widget]

Phase 3 has elemental QTE that only Iron can break

[sweet panther]

blacksmith doesnt have the laser stuff, train literally doesnt get to do 2nd cycle ect

[heavy flint]

Wasn't even GD much different than the normal SI GD?

[opal moon]

It may begin with shooting a set of circles and you are clear

[sharp widget]

Can't have SR without elemental QTEs

[sweet panther]

ya they had like 15 circles and stuff

probably add more mechanics ontop

[sharp widget]

UR Gravedigger is way easier

[heavy flint]

If it is indeed a GD SR then I feel like QTEs will be less and more of those OSU mechanics

[cold sluice]

They will make a different GD

[sharp widget]

Three circles in phase 3, but if you fail them, rather than dying, it spawns a set of bigger QTEs

[sweet panther]

but what i can say is gd SR will be really annoying to hit that core

[sharp widget]

clear those, and you go back to three circles

[sweet panther]

if ur going for good rank

[opal moon]

Exactly like this

[torn thunder]

Don't you need pierce for that?

[haughty harbor]

yoo SG meta is real?

[glacial axle]

Imagine they pulling a swerve on us

[sweet panther]

no

[glacial axle]

And do Something like Land Eater

Where SGs are meh

[torn thunder]

Land eater is hilariously easy

[sweet panther]

in p2 iirc u need pierce outside specific angles but p3 u can shoot core with w/e

[glacial axle]

Ah true, twas a skill issue on my part when I got stuck on Missilis Tower

[sharp widget]

Without a dedicated shielder, Land Eater's lasers could actually be scary

[torn thunder]

Just iframe it

[sharp widget]

RIP majority of players

[sharp widget]

Very much so

A lot of people still don't even understand how to build team comps

Had someone in my union use Tia/Noise/Mast/2B/Scarlet last UR

[sweet panther]

perfect

[full laurel]

Waos

[sweet panther]

imagine using cdr, hes just using -20s cdr

[sharp widget]

Tia reduces team CDR, right?

[last gust]

i saw a guy use doro sanis and bunnies

[torn thunder]

No

Just her own

[opal moon]

Yeah for some reason

[sharp widget]

I know

[sharp widget]

Yup

[sweet panther]

u ever go in co-op random queue and decide to look at ur team's ammo count?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1036760639709921422/1241130370422931516/image.png?ex=6656ebfb&is=66559a7b&hm=8192c70f4554eef6479b5113288601892e007329751ff4c1e8538a5eb50a47d1&

its a little off sometimes

[last gust]

130 ammo doro

[opal moon]

Yep

None doing shit

[tight grove]

i used tove noah 2b last raid worked great top 2%

[glacial axle]

WHAT IS WITH THAT DORO?

[last gust]

https://tenor.com/view/spy-team-fortress2-breaking-bad-spybreakingbad-falling-gif-21494955

[opal moon]

An atrocity to mankind

[wheat hill]

Am I blind or it doesn't mention how to increase the stack? The text is too small ngl.

Btw her stacks get removed every time she bursts
She has 50 stacks at start. Each burst removes 17. To burst 3 times, she need 51 stacks

[sharp widget]

Every three shots during Full Burst

Which is around 6 chips per burst regenerated

7 if timing is great

[muted cargo]

Another good nikke i dont have skill mat for

And summer near

Where more skill mat, su

[wheat hill]

How many times can she burst in a full fight?

[quartz orchid]

5

[wheat hill]

Dont worry. They will add overlock more skill packs to shop

[last gust]

is she a clip shotty

[sharp widget]

Most likely

[tight grove]

sanis was clip

[quartz orchid]

need to see demo video

[sharp widget]

Animation looks like it, and her stats are identical to Pepper's

[wheat hill]

Pvp meta

[tight grove]

she's 100% clip in the demo

that's about 0% clip live

we'll see

50/50 average

[muted cargo]

Smh

That's why even if she sss tier, i might just skip

And wait wishlist

No mat

[tight grove]

sss tier non campaign meta lol

ss tier highest

[muted cargo]

Even if want to raise, can't

Summer soon

[quartz orchid]

I'm ready

[tight grove]

sanis worse don't bother can skip

[muted cargo]

Wow they will add 4 more summer, trust

[tight grove]

yeah chances are good

no need to pretend its cope

[wheat hill]

They will remake Sneon and rerun her

Must pull

[muted cargo]

And cause they're limited, su has economy motivation to make them op

[analog ruin]

Zero good Elysion summer units, that’s a given.

[muted cargo]

Huh how sanis related

Sanis is supporter buffable by biscuit

So her niche still not replaced

[torn thunder]

What about soda in arena?

[sharp widget]

Clip SG means good burst gen

[torn thunder]

And longer full burst means more dps

But still Jackal fodder

[tight grove]

her longer burst stacks over time

[torn thunder]

Still better than Maiden I guess

[tight grove]

you're not doing multiple burst rots in arena

being iron is good though in arena

plenty of electrics to kill

[quartz orchid]

if your roster is robust, there's not much room for clip SG's anymore btw (for pvp)

ever since emilia was added

[tight grove]

we're looking at the championships now

gotta build 5

[muted cargo]

I hope championship only for sync 400+ people

[torn thunder]

So tldr, get 1 copy of Soda and wishlist?

[muted cargo]

[quartz orchid]

well the problem is tetra wishlist is competitive af

so check your own tetra roster

[muted cargo]

0 soda and wishlist

[tight grove]

i'm not sure many tetras need dupes

alice is one

and need is more of a want ofc but yeah she wants those dupes

[quartz orchid]

you'd say that but high dupe blanc literally allowed you to tank nihilister burn during SR

and I mean competitive because if you've been skipping all the tetra spam

who are you gonna slot in

[tight grove]

sure we can add the tetra healers

unless you want to do all potential tetra characters like sugar too but i don't think they are needed

[torn thunder]

So am I screwed for solo raid if I refuse to get bsoda?

[tight grove]

nope

you can get top 3% with a missing team

[fierce lake]

this

[quartz orchid]

nah I don't think bsoda will reach sbs absurdness level when sbs was out

[fierce lake]

just plop her inside your blue ticket thingy

[heavy flint]

You can get top 3% with 2 well built teams

[torn thunder]

Last solo raid I got 0.51%

[quartz orchid]

my sbs literally did 45% of the whole 5 team run damage

[heavy flint]

Unless you are on JP then you are screwed

[tight grove]

a top player should be able to top 3% with a single team

[sharp widget]

Yup

Actually, not accurate

Top 3% last raid was 2.8 bil

[quartz orchid]

even if bsoda is strong, I feel like she's going to need many good lines

[tight grove]

last raid that snow white 3.6b

[sharp widget]

in NA, at least

[quartz orchid]

I don't like units that need 8+ lines to be top performer

[muted cargo]

Man, where jp got all money to whel in this economy

[sharp widget]

No. 1 in the world didn't beat top 3% threshold in NA last raid

[tight grove]

yeah he didn't do it

someone else did

[sharp widget]

No one in the top 10 did

Just the guy in 12th

(KR #2)

[zealous peak]

still no kit

[sharp widget]

Unique team comp is why

[tight grove]

yes and possible

[sharp widget]

Yeah, but not a norm

[tight grove]

a top player can top 3% with 1 team

that's all i said

[sharp widget]

Ah, I see how you meant it now

Statements that can be read multiple ways

[tight grove]

yeah true

[sharp widget]

Top 3% is definitely not difficult for most servers though

Lots of players who just hit Auto-Squad, run full auto, then don't try again

Some people who still don't understand you can use more than one team

[heavy flint]

Yep, as long as you actually try you can get top 3% easily

[sharp widget]

Though does require three-ish months of play with good luck on units

[heavy flint]

Unless, you are in Jap, then it will require more time and investment than usual

Yup, I achieved my first top 3% within 3 months

[fluid stag]

Resume?

[heavy flint]

Pull, SG team spark of hope

[fluid stag]

Ok

[dire finch]

sg cope is back?

[tight grove]

hell yes

[fierce lake]

I give it two weeks until we're back to cope town again
but I love to be wrong in this case.

[wheat hill]

U can get top 0.5% in global with a missing team

[heavy flint]

If B.Alice has a minuscule CDR like Sakura does then SG team is set

[tight grove]

we can go far with little

[lucid nest]

why do you need CDR when each FB lasts 15s

and you only need to fill in 5s to complete 20s cd

[fluid stag]

I wanna skip

But she seems meta in next SR

[sharp widget]

Same

[fluid stag]

I like new soda

[fierce lake]

just skip, you won't lose anything by ditching a single sr

[fluid stag]

But I'm kinda poor rn

[lucid nest]

trust

you can skip everyone

can even skip this game

don't let FOMO eat you

[fluid stag]

Skip yin lin

[lucid nest]

I don't even understand her kit to pair with Sephiroth

Sanhua seems pretty straightforward

[sharp widget]

I'd lose my streak

[fluid stag]

Alice kit when?

[zealous peak]

10 minutes

[lucid nest]

Lee Hyori?

[heavy flint]

Skip 1.0

Wait for Changli

JP has Doro's VA

[zealous peak]

Taoqi has Alice VA

[heavy flint]

And she does this

Instant pull

[lucid nest]

have you ever tried Taoqi?

[zealous peak]

she so slow

[heavy flint]

Slow af

[lucid nest]

yeah, tried clearing with her on Dream stages

pretty fun

hold mouse to win

boss deals 0 dmg

I set a m san then afk

boss dies

[fluid stag]

Soda or sanhua?

[lucid nest]

Sanis

[heavy flint]

ASS

[fluid stag]

mpriv

[lucid nest]

I love their "international" game with weird ass pinyin and expect people to read

fucking taoqi wtf is this shit

[fluid stag]

Gatrix loved furry boy quest

[lucid nest]

I don't even remember his name

can't remember pinyin

only yap yap

[fluid stag]

Furry boy

[lucid nest]

the fail Rapi + Anis + Neon

combined into 1

[fluid stag]

And you can't skip

[lucid nest]

Let me introduce you to my world

2 hours later

stop yapping bitch

[fluid stag]

In nikke after prologue you can skip

No wait

You can skip since the start

[lucid nest]

[lucid nest]

imagine skipping

are you rerolling for Scarlet?

[fluid stag]

Rh

[lucid nest]

these days people reroll for Scarlet but Black

SS tier pushing, SSS tier bossing

god like

[fluid stag]

But rn Rh is the most used character

Imagine push +45% without rh

[zealous peak]

30 minutes

[foggy anchor]

[opal moon]

30 minutes until what?

[zealous peak]

Alice kit

[foggy anchor]

Intern-kun messing up again

[fluid stag]

Bro is coping

[opal moon]

Oh shit

[fresh fulcrum]

is she double D tier?

[zinc rover]

Double G tier

[safe skiff]

[rain cloak]

H cup

[zinc rover]

W(orld) cup

[fluid stag]

World cope

[torn thunder]

can I skip both summer, and mileage 2 copis of sanis for mlb?

[opal lantern]

Bro it'a already past midnight

I asked for refund for my bribing

[zealous peak]

5:48pm

surely kit in 12 min trust

[night pewter]

just mainly her outro skill really

[foggy anchor]

So I'm not the only one who keeps waiting for her kit huh...

[zealous peak]

the full copy-paste is ready for her thread

[sweet panther]

i think this is generally every banner that happens in sr

[fluid stag]

not maid privaty

She was p4

[lucid nest]

doesn't matter if she's in one of top 5 team right?

[fluid stag]

dunno

[sweet panther]

She was literally used in cc

[fluid stag]

I didn't use her in cc

And I reach 0.1%

[surreal agate]

Ive never had alice in wishlist but i pulled her more than most nikke i bet i will pull balice after she gets in standard banner

[fluid stag]

I mean yeah soda against digger

[sweet panther]

there's people who don't use alot of stuff, she was used as top 5 teams = meta

[fluid stag]

Is too obvious gd solo raid

[fluid stag]

No

[lucid nest]

good for you

[fluid stag]

Yes, she is useful

[fluid stag]

But not meta

Sorry boys

[lucid nest]

sure

whatever floats your boat

[fluid stag]

Well backing to soda

[zealous peak]

[surreal agate]

Do we know what elements the bunnies are

[fluid stag]

I don't know is she needs the whole cope sg team

BSoda iron, balice water

[surreal agate]

I need water

[zealous peak]

https://tenor.com/view/summer-water-spongebob-heatwave-hot-gif-12150719

no alice kit

[foggy anchor]

Bribing failed

[fluid stag]

Y'all think that balice+BSoda P1?

Or cope?

[zealous peak]

too much cope

maybe 4

[fluid stag]

So like maid privaty against cc

[quartz orchid]

p1 material atm would have to powercreep rh,sbs,crown

yea nah

[fluid stag]

[surreal agate]

Does kit mean what i think it means?

[fluid stag]

P1 last raid was Alice+sbs lol

Neither iron ele

[fluid stag]

It's over boys

kit tomorrow

[surreal agate]

Very vague

[zealous peak]

kit in 26min

[fluid stag]

She heals, she is cute

She is b0 actually

Imagine digger but wind weak

[chrome aspen]

you'd be surprised

[solar berry]

Ayo?

Tove Leona B.Soda M.Priv?

ALL IT NEEDS IS A HEALER

[sweet panther]

imagine if balice was a healer

that also increases stacks to make tove burst and s1 last longer/more consistent

thatd be wild

[solar berry]

YESSS PLS

If she isn't a Buffer/Healer then she won't be cooking DPS with an SMG

[opal lantern]

With Tove,

Soda's base uptime ratio is 1.40:2.07+22frames.

[solar berry]

It's even better cuz I've been cooking up Tove and Leona for my Solo Raid teams since I hate minmaxing Snow White

[opal lantern]

Soda's base uptime ratio is 1.40:2.07+0.33.

58.3% uptime.

2 max ammo (100%) = 73.6%.

[solar berry]

Do we know what Burst Alice is yet?

[opal lantern]

4 max ammo (200%) = 80.7%.

[chrome aspen]

when will we know? today or tomorrow?

[solar berry]

Idk tbh

I hope their banners overlap

So I don't have to wait long for Alice

[sweet panther]

we will know when intern kun posts it it can be anywhere from the next minute to next week

[opal lantern]

Soda needs 2~4x Max Ammo

[sweet panther]

i think 2 ammo is a pretty good spot

from eyeballing

[solar berry]

Probably gonna need Bastion too no?

[sweet panther]

after that i would consider just having other rolls

[sweet panther]

low ammo bastion is a little more complicated it depends how it lines up

for example if u only have 9 ammo bastion is

cuz u shoot 9 times, reload shoot once and get +1 ammo and ur at 0/10 bastion with 9 ammo again

and it cycles with +1 ammo forever unless u force a reload

[opal lantern]

Level 30 Bastion = every 10 ammo, refund 10

Dem alice players

[sweet panther]

instructions unclear please enjoy this 2% healing received increase cube instead

[analog ruin]

Any hope we can put the original stat stick cubes on her and spare the demand on Resilience and Bastion?

[sweet panther]

dont u have 5 slots on ur resil/bastion?

[solar berry]

Tbh I wish other Nikkes actually used those

[analog ruin]

Resilience yes, bastion next raid.

[solar berry]

The amount of Nikkes wanting Resilience and Bastion is insane

[sweet panther]

good thing next raid is coming with the banner

but yea i dont have much hope for other cubes

uptime is still too good generally

[solar berry]

My Cubes get upgraded real slow cuz I own a top 19% Union and I don't wanna leave my buddies

[sweet panther]

thats me but i usually hover around top 100

[solar berry]

At least you still get a decent amount

[zealous peak]

@opal lantern bribe the intern again

[sweet panther]

pls make balice not need skill books and fit b2 slot

thats all i ask

[stoic tartan]

[fluid stag]

Balice 10/10/10

[last basalt]

So skill books are dead forever from Soda and Alice both 10/10/10?

[fluid stag]

Idk guy

[heavy flint]

I haven't even finished my 2nd team

Still need 20 more days to get SBS's burst from 8 to 10

[warped kite]

$$$

[wispy sierra]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1012288696336273428/1070326844991225876/credit_card.png

[fluid stag]

Maybe day 1 players can be competitive

[last basalt]

I've been waiting all this time with SG supports to make the final SG team, and I guess this will be it

[stoic tartan]

Interesting way to solve the lack of cdr issue

[heavy flint]

Tbh yes, why need CDR if the DPSs benefit from a longer burst time

[dire finch]

now sg cope will be tove leona mpriv soda balice?

[stoic tartan]

Not cope

Legit now

[heavy flint]

It will depend on what B.Alice does

[fluid stag]

B1 to replace tove

[stoic tartan]

Itll be something related to increasing or maintaining stacks

[heavy flint]

If her stacking comes from her own burst. She will replace leona's burst (but Leone will still be used for her effective range and pellets)

If she is B1 it will depend on what her burst does to replace tove

[torn thunder]

would soda be good for iron bosses other than gravedigger?

[last basalt]

So winter Mica's interaction with Tove stacks won't be useful even after all this time

[heavy flint]

If she is B1 and her stacking depends on burst then she will replace tove's burst and tove will solely be used for her S1

[tight grove]

she has like 40% hitrate

quite good for shot guns

easily good for plenty of bosses

[torn thunder]

mat h: loss on core damage, but has aoe to clear adds
indivilia: probably fine, but missees out on pierce tricks
stormbringer: loss on core damage but probably fine, until cp deficit lower stats to the point where she gets shredded by turrets

[stoic tartan]

as long as b. alice fixes the tove stack issue

the shotgun comp will be very strong

[torn thunder]

I'm still missing leona

and my tove is 1/1/1

[stoic tartan]

my tove 10 10 10 and leona 4 7 10 and m priv 10 10 10 for this moment

[torn thunder]

all jokes aside, the problem is immediately revealed in hard mode

bsoda having a longer burst means she's taking modernia's slot

and that may or may not be problematic

[stoic tartan]

why would she take mod's slot in campaign lol

[torn thunder]

burst duration up

[stoic tartan]

that doesnt matter

b. soda is a shotgun lol

also b. soda's kit doesnt seem functional without b. alice

so this will b an unofficial duo

[sharp widget]

It'll work without B Alice for short battles no problem

It's only in 180 second fights that B Soda could run low on chips

[fluid stag]

Lol imagine a shotgun replacing mod in campaign

[sharp widget]

but yeah

[sharp widget]

Shotgun over Mod burst?

[fluid stag]

what I'm reading this cope now

Go back to work

See you when balice kit appears

[sharp widget]

50 minutes

Trust

[fluid stag]

[torn thunder]

inb4 balice needs to replace crown or naga for bsoda to work in hm

[rose mango]

We alrdy know that Alice does that

It's just a matter of time before it drops

After that we cook

[sharp widget]

How potent is it and is it skill or burst-related. As well as if she's B1, B2, or B3

[rose mango]

Just don't be b1

[sharp widget]

Finally, if she provides anything else other than just healing and stack buffs

Wouldn't be surprised if she adds stacks after X number of shots fired since she's SMG

[fluid stag]

Maybe she is b0 like Tia

[rose mango]

Works

[stoic tartan]

Ideally she is b0

[terse echo]

👀 awaiting shotgun meta unfold

Poor xmica tho forever on closet

[rose mango]

Good for one raid

[terse echo]

I think I never used her 😦

[little tusk]

her self atk buff will activate before her burst nuke right

[sharp widget]

X Mica has seen use in more than just one raid

She's been used more than Tove

Chatterbox, Crystal Chamber, and Nihilister

She was used to cheese the ATK down debuff on CC and the burn in phase 2 of Nihilister

Also was used last raid by people who didn't want to suffer dealing with Yulha

Heck, the only non-CDR units with higher SR representation are Miranda and S Mary

[rose mango]

ALICE RELEASED?

I got twitter notif

Was it old notif

[tight grove]

post

[rose mango]

Lemme check

[sharp widget]

https://tenor.com/view/yell-gopher-kit-gif-14542575

[zealous peak]

28

for sure

[sharp widget]

No kit

[rose mango]

https://youtube.com/shorts/Q6uFBEXpVNI?si=9ITfGWZz0MFnu7Px

Bro I got notification for this

Bruh

[sharp widget]

lol

[tight grove]

what does alice say?

alicu something des

[sharp widget]

Usagi

"Alice is a rabbit"

[zealous peak]

that's good tho