#[Crown] New Unit Megathread
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cdr isnt needed tho
u can just run Mpriv and its higher dps output
and bunnies provide insnane survivability
Novel 
But you should know that Noir isn't that good with SG anyway, the hit rate buff only comes when you use her burst
Which is Sugar's burst already expired
cant stack
Tbf, novel is still the best detective nikke in the game atm
noir hitrate is 20s buff no?
30s
Crown meta
not only when it comes in context of SG
Glad i spend my gems correctly
im a hitrate deneyer
what do you even need hitrate for on upcoming boss
Indivilia makes it 4 bosses where SG will excel
if i was focusing on rolls since i dont expect 3 lines on every piece
having an extra attack/ammo/ele
And again i dont feel I like the Tove's RNG
would be better than hitrate
5% is just trash

is gd/LE really a sg boss
1% doesnt even need 5 teams
or is it just a RH SW boss
that's why
cant rh sw over 5 teams

just stack 3 strongest team
but what if
3rd strongest is actually rem and not bunnies

thats what i wanna know
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I found everything by playing everything
its nividia
nvidia is angry chime stole 4090
so theyre coming after us and we have to fight
Rem with Liter last time was for ele shield
Who's gonna be Iron in this one
I bet u can replace Mrpiv as Sugar
Or Mod
Probably mod goes and finds another home
the new cube amplify healing ?
yes
given or taken right ?
Is moran good buffer for crown 
thanks
주는 회복량 (amount of healing given)
체력 회복량 (amount of health recovery)
This one is hp potency^
Actually, i would test just to make sure, cus EN says HP potency.
What that mean 
Lol
where is that from?
cus HP potency basically only affects incoming healing
my own test
this is 2B lifesteal on Helm burst
Helm equipped and didn't equip cube
oh ok
the diff is, 12940/11972 = 8.08%
so EN fucked this one up
so the cube is not giving HP potency then just like KR text suggests
anyway, it's an effect exclusive for healer only
non healer having it is like charge speed on MG
shit
your healing skill lv 6 => lv 7
isnt it 1.16x times?
Like here is d
3.04 / 2.88 = 1.055x going from lvl 6 to lvl 7
and then lvl 7 cube is just 1.1616x
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what is blud cooking with the cubes
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guillotine is a good delivery system for all the buffs
heal crown comp
oh my meth is wrong, I excluded the base which also contributes towards 16.16%
in this case
lv 7 with cube = lv 10
nice
lmao
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Alrdy have bug report for this in pins
sky getting a good mileage from this one
Rezegard cooking this time around
like the thing he posted is naga s2 bug right?
ye
inb4 ppl complain about sweating in a ass booba game
idk man but this bug is kinda insane
this bug nothing new when you think about it
because same thing got fixed on a lot of healers

Wat comp works best with crown?
for campaign its rh-crown-mod-alice-naga
Wait, is rh the burst 1?
yes
all stages
I don’t hav Alice, is there someone else I can swap with her?
I mean you can just run liter, or any other B3 you have geared/skilled up.
another good b3
The above comp is the max sweat very high power deficit hard mode comp
have we tested out the new burst charge changes?
I see, thank you
is the cube high enough to do it lol
no i mean the Cube they are using
to push their Hp% so crown is lowest alongside Marian
uh guys
ran into interesting issue with maxwell
my liter stole my maxwell buff 
liter > crown > modernia means that my sbs has lower atk than liter now
bc liter gets crown s1, but bscar doesn't
Now everyone gets the carrot 
LMAO
it's fine, sbs' damage is like 90% from her bursting
"Account bricked, shouldn't have OLed Liter "
and her burst is +100% atk
I can already see the headlines
if you burst fast enough after the 3rd rotation. sbs should be able to keep carrot since crown s1 buff is 15s
this would be a fire clickbait
whats the full team?
Wouldn't it be liter, crown, sbs, mod, maxwell given the context 
Its ok if you dont have ammo ol i guess on burst gen unit like rh.
I think with enough charge spd should be faster to full charge on rh for burst gen cus of her innate chrg spd buffs

is this the Vigor cube or the new Healing Cube ?
vigor
maxhp - vigor
ok cause they look fcking similar from afar lol
so the comp is to push every max HP ?
is it enough to push higher than Crowns ? lol
my dead ass already up my gear lol
lucky only need lvl 7
not that bad
2 b2s in a team?
I'm sorry if this has been asked before, but crown has the most hp out of most of my units since she has more ol gear than everyone else. Will she not receive rapunzels heal in that case?
If everyone's full hp
If everyone at full hp, then priority is left to right
so it would just heal the first 3 units from left to right?
Yes
Wow I didn't know that at all lol, thanks so much for the info 🙏
What's the bug? I don't see it in pins
and what makes you break crown ?
It seems only apply to naga right?
well i don't really put them together unless is campaign team
i guess just no need to OL crown for now lol
yeah they fixed it long ago for other healers:
niceee~
guys after reading the chat. my brain feels like butter. What ol lines and teammate crown needs to be absolutely worth it to use with rh as main dps. mostly for all content 
Hey guys, from what I´ve seen and the pinned messages, Crown and Liter/RH is the core of the team, and then some B3, for campaign?
charge speed

Pretty much
O it's already there
thank u sir
am i bricked if i got a crown dupe? i heard the dupes fuck up the naga comp
I only got crown to 1LB, and based on Sky's video, we probably shouldn't OL crown?
That's just an exaggeration tbh, it just means that you'll have a 50% s2 uptime than a 90% one
i really want crowns lmb screen but like i dont wanna mess up crown if getting her dupes will lower dps lmao
it just a bug,probably will get fixed soon, and that is only happne on naga
use other healer= problem solved
its a bug? i thought it was intended haha

who should i swap for naga?
putting maxwell before crown still results in crown s1 triggering before maxwell s1

so my liter still steals buff 
ig crown activates before regular full burst buffs
crown:
maxwell
wording diff, "at the start" vs "when entering"
The only benefit of not OLing crown is that it is easier to proc her S2 with Naga's healing, but you are also lowering your own CP by doing so. She will proc her S2 by herself for around 40-50% of the battle, using Naga just means that you will have it active for 90%.
I think maxwell should activate first if based on skill kit since crown have to reach fb while maxwell is otw to fb?
testing doesn't seem like it
with position like Maxwell/Liter/Mod/Bscar/Crown
if crown was after, then mod and bscar get maxwell buff
but even in that position, liter steals maxwell buff, because liter got crown s1
so I think they coded crown s1 to trigger before any typical full burst buffs
lemme try alice, although I heard maxwell and alice s1s work a bit differently
yeah with p1 crown p5 alice, liter also steals alice buff
p1 alice p5 crown the same thing
so alice and maxwell work the same way in this situation
I knew it, vigor cube to make naga heal crown 
rapunzel not bad either for burst gen
consider i don't have RH for campaign mode kinda sucks
lol
only liter right
any b1 support that has atk that's close to your attackers can steal it
since liter always bursts, so whichever b3 isn't bursting will lose buff if liter can surpass their atk using crown s1
rip
I guess not gonna buy spare body for liter
glad my liter is not fully OL yet

thats kinda messed up
I can put vigor on liter (no dps loss) and vigor on either mod or bscar, and crown will be 2nd lowest hp for naga heals 
might try that out
and crown can still be 3OL
just no boots, but it gives only hp and def anyway
will just get my 2 ammo OL from the other 3 pieces
f
that might work
but if under full hp circumstances, naga seems bugged out instead of healing from left to right
definitely a bug imo
all other lowest hp healers work the same way, just naga that's different
hope they fix
@hasty gyro this is my guear it cost me 4 rocks, the upgrade to OL was amazing (my luck was blessing)
So that's where my luck went
no fucking way I can fully auto SI's just by putting crown in
except train Im guessing
And only because Train auto-targeting is ass
whole team sits there as if they’re enjoying the scenery, like wth
so when naga be fixed when can put crown boots again?
I think you’ve sabotaged my brain because while I understood you I also didn’t understand you
no way
What's the priority in-between? What goes to 10 first?
S1 = Burst > S2
S1 governs reload speed buff, caster’s atk buff. You’re raising it mainly for the reload speed
Burst governs massive atk dmg buff, shielding. You’re raising it mainly for the atk dmg buff
k
Is Crown any good?

bro
just think that crown is the unit that will help the most anacherino
trust me im not coping

crown is new new free train, her taunt really useful in phase 1
train's so free at some point it's going to start paying us
Next thing you know, HSR train shows up and kidnaps your squad
Time to pull for Crown, Red Hood, Alice, and Liter all over again
So based on what I'm seeing about crown + naga
We shouldn't level crown's gear or mlb her until naga gets fixed?
If you intend on forcing it, yeah
Basically 0LB crown in just lvl0 T9M or even T9 gear
Then check across your team to make sure nobody has more HP than Crown
I think it’s not good, seems awfully wrong to have to do these shenanigans but up to you
yeah, def not doing that
once bug is fixed, I'll use naga with crown
until then, i don't really have to
the worst part of all is that it negatively impacts your CP at lower levels, My team went from 190k to 180k when I removed Crown's T9M level 5 gear
AT higher levels gear tends to become less impactful
but HECK I am not doing that either
crown still activates her buff
uptime just isn't 100%
it's not that big of a deal in campaign where you are in control of when the boss spawns
bit of clever gaming and you can time it
and that's only if your really need it but from what i see most players don't push hard anyway
no wonder i felt like i dont have the max experience in naga team when pushing campaign.
rip mlb crown
is it a bug? mlb crown shouldnt be penalizing players wtf lmao
We think it’s a bug, yes, because ShiftUp fixed this same issue for other healers
It’s a snapshot
Like how Helm does have a straight back usually
Same deal when Soline’s in your commander room receiving advise while having you at gunpoint
She’s actually not doing that “in reality” hehe
Same thing goes for clothes
Bunnies going out to battle in casino entertainer costume… no
Did anyone file a bug report about naga’s healing mechanics not working correctly? Crown would benefit tremendously if that were fixed
Nice. I hope they fix it. I already bricked my crown by giving her high OLs
Mine’s lvl0 OLs but is 5CB which is much worse to have
Yeah, gear at your level doesn’t really do much
Yeah, I'm waiting until they get it fixed. Thankfully I didn't upgrade armor on crown yet
I’m sure they’ll fix Naga healing priority since Snake showed evidence that ShiftUp intended otherwise
I do hope they can fix it soon before the next SR releases
Otherwise I'll be worried

Rapunzel doesn’t need to worry about that. She works fine
We’re actually enjoying Rapunzel with a fix we hope Naga would receive
Yeah
Like the same results
the brick only affects campaign pushing anyway, and only minorly
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_WB03eFqsw&ab_channel=skyjlv
wait did I brick myself by full ol crown? I need to for the atk% and max ammo rolls
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Is it because Naga has a different heal rule with everyone at full HP? as sky says, it should be going from left to right
But has someone noticed it throughout the time schoolgirls release?
I see
They foresaw this

Does that mean my Crown is bricked?

she's full OL and MLB
Or it's "bricked" if you wanna pair her with Naga?

...Imma backread
Basically if things were working properly, Crown + Naga is the best bang for buck for a campaign squad
But for UR/SR you don’t need to worry about it
I see..
And it’s not like campaign is hopeless with a so called bricked Crown
You can just use Rapunzel or whatever
Well, she did bump my numbers against the Water boss over at the shooting range
By a lot

Oh ok

thx shiftup
bought 1.5 anniversary pack
in the 10 standard pulls
account saved
I’m thinking about resetting someone’s skills to pump Rapunzel to 10/10/10
And maybe giving Rapunzel OL gear
Too soon?

I could skill reset Rem 
i started testing out in the shooting range and i heard naga is the best meta team with crown, Liter, RH and Mord
but when i tried to use noir instead of naga i do more dmg in total, this is on a solo boss tho
your rem still not reseted yet?

tove will be buffed


So in order for her s2 to proc with naga she has to be one of the two lowest hp units in team?
Ah I see but even wo 100 percent uptime with her s2 wont a comp with naga still yield more damage than with rapun or pepper?
yes, if you can utilize core dmg
I mean ig when manual gameplay pushing in huge deficits units like privaty and maxwell will prob be a good flex situationally
first ever pay 2 lose nikke lmao
i mean its not bad since its only naga but still for a game where meta gets you alot of progress this is such a wierd design
I expect them to fix naga
Reasons why:
- bc whales complain
- read #1
- read #2
- precedent has it be left to right, like all other healers
So I fought a tough stage that I couldn’t beat with Rapunzel in team
Then tried it with Naga in team because I realized that hey, gas raptures were hurting everyone, worrying about healing Crown in p1 is out the window unless I could fully heal everyone. That wasn’t happening
I almost won, but still lost
Then tried it with Marciana
Surprisingly, I did better consistently and then I finally won
Rapunzel: 4/4/1 in T9Ms
Naga: 10/10/10 in T9Ms
Marciana: 4/4/4 in T9Ms
I think it was something about Marciana consistently triggering Crown’s Royal Attire atk dmg buff
Lifeleech also helped since my carries ate that up
The stage was a good pressure test of it all
0.7105 of recommended power. That’s 29% deficit
would yall say crown is 10/10/10?
Guys. Is it ok to lv5 all 4 gears for crown?
I would say 10710 with normal use but 101010 for hard campaign pushing
thx 👍
You mean u haven't? Disappointed
Hehe I had Rapunzel essentially benched from PvE in forever
And in fact now that I’m finding wins with Marciana I’ve already rebenched Rapunzel
And u are too much of a big whale in pvp so u dont need OL
I see
:ShiftyDerp:
I thought u were one of my people
Dolphin soul 🐬
Hmm
Also I’m rethinking whether Naga is the right fit
If I use Scarlet
For campaign pushes
Because if you encounter a stage like I did where whole team keeps taking damage after damage
You lose all ability to control whether Crown is being healed…
Time to put core 2 Soda in my wishlish
You basically need a full team healer
Like Summer Mary or Marciana
Or, well, yeah, Soda
I think Soda’s the worst of the full team healing options though
MG tho
Against glasses
She is
Heal per 12 seconds
:TimiProud:
She is not even limit break
And she is 3rd lowest HP in my team
Red Mod Lit Nag
Time to reset her skills
10 1 10
if things go out of control from chip dmg, then wouldn't naga still be better bc of core dmg
unless you use a healer that can actually heal enough to make a difference in a stage, which is what I assume happened with marci on the farters
Yea, lifeleech is intensely great on high dmg carries. Modernia visibly zoomed from half hp to full hp
It made a difference, even with Naga’s help I still took too much damage and Naga was inadequate at healing the team
Naga could only heal 2 at a time every 5 shots
I did almost win once, but it was more to the timing of the team wipe than actually killing the enemies
Because I had near-wiped in a way that caused enemy waves to stall and I limped to battle time up but lost control of base by 1 second
Contradictorily, if I didn’t have that mishap occur, I smoothly killed my way into facing more gas raptures and they annihilated my low health team 
So indeed, Marciana made the difference, I reached that deathly situation with 3 fairly healthy, Crown, Red Hood, Modernia
Liter almost dead, and Marciana having just died
Poor gal couldn’t heal herself well with her own lifeleech 
only thing stopping me from experimenting a lot with flex slot is that most of my options are really low cp 
even crown couldn't carry me against sinister 
didn't they change sinister moveset
another month to camp
remember something about it in the patch notes
it's patched so it doesn't disappear when shooting ballz
ah
Had to switch to Naga just to do more damage
So I guess there’s no perfect partner in campaign for Crown
Heavy armor base defense this time
probably need a unit that combined marci and naga s1s to have a more solid spot
marci for very consistent heals on crown regardless of dmg the team has taken, and then some other form of dmg boost like core dmg
maybe cinderella the new Naga x marci fusion B3
wait for chime with stable heal and cdr 
u guys really serious about Naga not healing Crown
And really want to nerf Crown's HP down


what the fuck is 603 sync
🗣️
Meanwhile this one Japanese guy is lv 700 and max core
dem she alone has more cp than my entire squad 

I had to beat a stage using SBS, Alice, Modernia, Crown, Liter
So I think my conclusion is going to be, Crown is a Swiss Army knife
She goes into whatever comp you need to win with for campaign
There won’t be a perfect 1 comp to run with forever
That and ShiftUp devs are pure evil

that means she's flexible af, and so SSSS tier
Who is your B1? RH?
I've been trying to put together a good auto team for clearing normal campaign (so no hard mode manual shenanigans like RH B1)
Might try pepper tbh just to see if it's cope or she's actually good with Crown
don't use peppa in campaign with crown
Guess I'll just use Liter as per usual
Can't take Doro because I went all in on ATK rolls for her OL and now she steals Maxwell's buff lol
Or is that because Crown S1 occurs first buffing her ATK 
it's this
a lot of guys had the same issue
dude in here had liter of all things stealing carrots and mw buff
4 OL gears: Crit rate/dmg, DEF, Charge speed and Hit rate.
My luck went all into Crown's banner it seems...
I got lucky with EM rolls and definitely see the damage against iron weak enemies
Against other elements though her damage seems ok at best
Still a support at the end of the day
It's decent to have, in terms of her normal attacks I'm just more excited to havea MG support - I still don't have Modernia so stages with those enemies can fuck me hard
Crown to her teammates: "I'm giving you all support."
Slam the whole castle onto them
Crown smirks

My team was Crown, Liter, RH, Modernia, Marciana when heavy healing was needed. Edge of beatable content… Like 5-8 gas raptures beating up your team.
Otherwise, I used Rapunzel or Naga instead of Marciana. All these three came in clutch for me depending on stage. Only Naga was 10/10/10, the other flexes were 4/4/1 or 4/4/4.
I’m finally stuck
They threw another 5-8 gas raptures base defense at me and I’m at 33% deficit. Can’t win, tried
Turns out I’ve been calculating deficit wrong
Corrected it and no wonder I was losing out. 49.6% 
… also means my other deficit calculations were wrong, they all underestimated 
Time to idle game harder
i thought they said before release that it would somewhere
this is 1 stack S1, probably round up/down somewhere leading to 2k dmg diff
but it's very small
T-Rix can you show me how to calculate deficit? I’m too tired and I think my head’s on backwards
2 stacks S1 will be 2m3
Deficit = 1 - Team Power/Requirement
the difference probably comes from RH's B1 giving an attack buff, since Crown's S1 scales off her own attack
i cant read apparently
1 - 941,542 / 1,408,725 = 0.33163534.
33%
Okay so it was actually 33% and I just confused myself for no reason
does rh get the def stack if she bursts once
Crown’s? Yes
so if rh bursts once, does she get both?
I doubt it
oh ok
this is eh, may be the team to deal with Bronchus
so nothing special with rh at all
Doesn’t matter if the unit had 9 other possible bursts the team ignored at the time

Blanc 39% dmg will make up for 36% dmg up of Crown
while providing heal
to proc Crown S2
dps where
rouge will save the blanc 
it's a team to deal with Bronchus/Heavy heal required
I wouldn’t have the damage to kill the gas raptures fast enough, I bet
Either I’d be too slow on first 2, then try to Red Hood burst 2-5 at once
Or I’d be fast enough on first 2, then too slow on the next 3
RIP
They even added an extra high HP 3rd gas rapture for no reason
Would it maybe be viable to swap Noir for RH and go Crown/Blanc/Crown or something?
Like, 2 are minibosses (Subtargets)
But the 3rd one in the same dropped pack… is a regular Soldier
And has more hp than the minibosses 
Yeah, assuming you need to burst four times
I figured by then you're either dead or won
Also on red not getting multiple stacks: does this mean it's better to use her B1 with the other DPS's burst instead of doubling up with RH->Crown->RH?
RH dmg is relatively weak when she’s not bursting
Also there’s a CD issue
If RH ever does her B3, she has a CD ongoing which blocks her B1
Lately I’ve had to use RH B1 second, or even third
So first cycle doesn’t use RH B1
Oh
I think I understand your point now
I say it doesn’t matter
You’re talking about giving Defender’s ATK buff to a B1
What does it matter if the Liter missed out on one cycle?
My point was just that it we use RH with other B3, both get the Crown buff
Maximising Crown S1
And whether that's worth sacrificing RH buffing her own burst to nuke the boss
With the logic that an off-burst RH will do more damage than Liter
It’s very situational though, so hard to say what would be the tipping point for someone beating a stage
As for raid bosses, basically if there’s one part on the boss, most likely RH is going to hog her own B1 for her B3
Would have to test to see how much damage loss from giving RH B1 to e.g. Alice instead
And how much gained by giving off burst RH crown S1
not sure which Nikke to use for last , i have Rapunzel and Naga , i might switch Moderina with Rose scarlet
Max
Naga for more damage, Rapunzel for more durability
I'd default Naga and swap for Rapunzel if dying quickly
should i max Naga skill , then healing won't be problem
Max Naga S1 first if you haven't
Damage > Healing when it comes to skill investment
she has lvl 1 skill cz i didn't had Tia
Ahhhh
almost MLB
I'd say 4/4/1 then focus on raising S1
Most of the time you'll kill enemies fast enough you don't need healing/at high deficits many enemies 1-shot anyway
Since you don't have Tia you'll only run her with Crown so burst is irrelevant and can stay LVL 1
I guess can boost to 4 just for the CP if pushing story
i have bunny duo for Story
Yeah a Crown of equal skill & equipment will do better than bunnies
Add Naga for core damage buffs and watch your damage explode
with lvl 1 naga skills
I overload her T_T, can we make petition to request gear reset.
I'll be honest even with the bug I think OL is worth
You're rarely at max HP if running Naga as only healer
It feels a lot like a shooting range exclusive issue
Where damage matters but enemies barely attack you
you guys need to calm the fuck down on the bricking and dooming of crown investment
the bug lies on naga's heal alone
I thought naga skill is about max hp so it may not bug
OL meanwhile let's Crown last longer before she does, which is of more importance
crown BY HERSELF can have nearly 50% uptime on her S2 21% attack damage buff
every healer with same wording works from left to right
except naga
naga bug is what's keeping me from trying for more crown copies
It's max HP %
Bug is that if all are 100% it defaults to highest HP instead of left most position
it's not the end of the god dam world if you don't have 100% uptime thanks to naga heals
gonna sit at lb0 until they fix it 
they giving me reason to not pull, I appreciate that
you mean lowest hp
but yeah all these people falling for the youtuber clickbaiting title of BRICKING 
Slightly more S2 uptime when you're already doing well (no damage) is not worth a squishy Crown
you know what's bricking? not rolling for a limited nikke that is meta which luckily they haven't made any limited super broken
yet
honestly I appreciate it
once the whales start complaining, it'll get fixed
tbh its yt meta
It's shooting range meta
its viewers fault just getting baited on titles
In actual gameplay it only affects the first 10 seconds before the team starts taking damage
also meme shitposts helps
honestly that 10 sec helps
crown gives no buffs until she bursts, unlike tia
I mean if they didn't fix it we literally make the only unit with worthy title "king of peasants"
if i am using Crown with RH and Rose Scarlet , should i switch from Reload cube ?
so having atk dmg buff before first burst is nice, unless you just spam burst gen
also it's good for fights where the only hits you'll take are 1 shots 
It's not nothing, but I'm more concerned about Crown taking too much damage after her invul ends but enemies are still targeting her/rockets on their way to her
So imo even with bug OL/dupe Crown is worth it
main reason to OL/dupe is for cp stacking imo
otherwise just better to try for lowest hp
Nah she takes a lot of damage in the half second after her taunt ends
It's a real issue
honestly if it weren't for the free pulls I would have MCB'd her already 
well if those hits 1 shot her, either way she'll die
need to wait to see if I get evenly remotely lucky
true whales ignores the free pulls
but if they don't, now crown gets reliable heals for a while 
smh
that's cause I'm not a true whale 
unlike most people spamming their gold mileage at the drop of a hat
I was super stingy with mine and when crown leaks came out waay back last year
I hard commited to saving up for MCB
I think core 4-5 is enough because you gonna cry if you get another dupe of her.
I'm sitting at core+2 atm and just waiting it out already
I doubt I will get even 1 dupe from the pulls but hey you never know
just to make sure, crown s1 doesn't buff b3 nukes like scarlet right?
it should right
it won't because her buff comes from full burst condition and scarlet's burst happens just before full burst
yeah you're right
instant nuke bursts don't get full burst condition buffs
am I mixing it with another thing but does 2b get the full burst damage
pretty sure her main burst doesn't no idea on the 2nd nuke part

No, but it CDR is low enough it can buff next wave, e.g. Doro B1

The 15 seconds duration is insane
pull for dupes?
was just curious bc it seems like crown s1 triggers before typical full burst buffs
so was wondering if it's early enough to buff scar nuke 
It does seem to fuck up Maxwell/Alice lol
should be easy to test that no?
I think that might be from 15s duration tho
just run1 comp with crown and 2nd comp with no crown
Not from it triggering first, but at time of Maxwell calc, Liter still having the previous buff
ik crown s1 triggers before both maxwell and alice buffs
I'm the guy whose liter keeps stealing buffs 
LMAO
Have we confirmed this is case for first burst cycle?
doesn't matter position either
Or is it only second onward from buff remaining
yeah
I checked the buffs a second after first burst
liter always steals it from my bscar, who isn't bursting
Oh wow, amazing
doesn't matter if crown in p1, mw/alice in p5, or flipped
I should check if my liter is capable of stealing 2 highest attack buffs 
With Crown ATK she likely can
thanks gatrix
and happens BEFORE Full Burst
while Maxwell S1, Crown S1 is "Full Burst"
so they happen AFTER Scar Nuke
Well, Maxwell/SW/Emilia can benefit from Crown S1 lol
they overlap Full Burst time
yeah as long as they're not instant nuke B3s
Summer Anis
it's instant nuke B3s that get shafted hard
Scarlet burst happens immediately so it happens before FB
even with slight delay like Kilo
it's still "before" FB
only 2B and Guillo are delay enough
oh is 2B's actually delayed enough 
ah okay the 2nd part 
Honestly considering swapping out my Maxwell now that my B1 keeps stealing her buff
I guess in a way that does mean most instant nuke B3s will never really become meta unless they do more DPS outside of that nuke
AoE nuke B3 basically exist for the capture/protect stages anyway
Otherwise you just target boss and nuke them with single target dps
and when you think about it best aoe nuke for campaign is still a2 or something like that

Scarlet probably not a good combo with Crown since she'll keep stealing heals / will die easily huh


this buff stealing might actually be more helpful
if the nuke is VERY DELAY
it should guarantee whoever is bursting gets the buff
so if you run bscar alice mod, with mod and bscar highest atk
crown should make sure alice steals buff whenever alice is bursting
when normally she'll never get buff

yeah luckily alice and SBS have attack buff on their burst
so they 100% for sure get the highest attack buffs
2.01s delay
I can test with my maxwell
and it still doesn't have full burst bonus
I guess it snapshots the moment before FB
yeah I assume it snapshots
yeah so I guess dorothy's burst is a good way to see what bypasses the snapshotting for instant burst damage
But you would also see B1 steal the second buff from Modernia or Bscar
I don't think it's worth
yeah it works for maxwell, with crown she steals buff when she's bursting
I mean, if you wanna use maxwell to burst, but running 2 other higher atk dps for some reason, crown makes sure maxwell always gets her own buff on the snipe 
pretty niche situation tbh
Crown stocks will really skyrocket when we get a Def-scaling DPS to replace Modernia

Or an attacker Nikke with a .5 burst

oh yeah my liter easily steals buffs, even with lvl 7 crown s1 
don't think I can ever prevent it
crown makes my liter atk go from 38.7k to 54.5k
my two dps have 46-48k atk

Yeah I'm thinking in gonna just run Crown/Naga/Liter/RH/B3 who isn't Maxwell or Alice
B1 stealing buff feels bad
Liter probably stealing Naga S2 as well lol
oh god, liter is gonna steal mod buff when bscar is bursting
Swap to Doro for better B1 damage? Lol
that'll actually hurt, since mod does great off-burst dmg
This is what I was saying before
Maxwell and Alice low-key bad synergy for Crown
Naga S2 as well
Dunno if there's any way to avoid it

Other than RH->Crown->other B3
Yeah could abandon RH as a B3 entirely and aim for two rotation clears
RH->Crown->Modernia then RH->Crown->Alice or something
1st rotation: Liter Crown Mod (RH loses buffs, no big deal)
2nd rotation: RH Crown RH (Mod keeps buffs)
third rotation should be fine too
Is this taking Maxwell, Alice, or Naga for the buffs?
naga, but should apply to maxwell or alice flex too

just making sure that whenever liter bursts, mod also bursts
should work for like 2-3 rotations depending on whose burst you wanna use first
There is a cursed alternative

Manual Naga to trigger it right before bursting


ig it's mostly a mod problem anyway, since the other dps don't do much outside of burst
If we fully invest Crown will she steal over Liter?

Crown dps probably not far off an off-burst B3
if you can get her atk higher, then sure
I don't think I have a chance at that for my acc
my liter is core 2 
crown is lb0, and highest I'll go is mlb
keeping crown low invest rn until they fix naga
Let's say +14%
About three ATK lines might push your Crown over
Oh wait
Defender vs support


Forget bricking your crown
Don't raise your Liter headpiece or you'll brick her crown comps 
what would a RH/Crown/Mod/Bscar/Naga rotation look like 
my liter's only OL is the headpiece 
2 cycle max
RH->Crown->Mod
RH->Crown->Bscar
I mean alternative is making mod burst for nuking boss which ...
You can't B3 with RH against boss unless you have a B1
well in that setup, at least with crown you make sure whoever is bursting gets flex slot buff
eh, ig it's not that big of a deal in most campaign cases, if you just run liter crown mod rh flex
if you don't use mod, not even an issue at all
I think answer is keep Liter headpiece at OL1
And run something like the above
Accepting that when bursting with RH, Crown will get Naga's S2 /Maxwell/Alice buff instead of mod
Or are there any good B3 with large enough self ATK buffs to bypass Crown's
alice and bscar when they're bursting
Modernia gives herself an ATK buff she might be fine after first cycle actually
xlud as well
oh? oh yeah forgot mod self buffs
yeah like 30%
should be perma if you got hit rate roll

lemme actually test it
and see if liter can steal
yeah if you charge your first burst fast enough, liter can steal from mod
but if slow enough, mod s2 kicks in and she keeps it
or second rotation onwards
how many seconds does it take for a MG to do 200 shots from start of battle?
On topic of Xlud
Does her S1 dilute with Crown S2 and Burst?
Or is damage taken and damage dealt separate?
iirc they're separate
honestly mod should be fine if it's naga flex, since she rebuffs every 5 shots
so liter might steal the first one maybe, but the future ones mod will get
maxwell and alice buffs mod might lose if she doesn't burst first rotation
yeah I think in general it's fine
With good rotation Liter will always have the buff tho, it's a 15s buff

Oh Mod self atk
yeah
once it kicks in liter has no chance
another reason to keep hit rate roll on mod 
to make sure she never loses that buff
Non issue then
well somehow things sorted themselves out, glad it wasn't a big deal
one time
needs to burst again to reproc
so not very consistent
delete other weapons other than mg and change all nikkes to mg 
Soo, is OLed crowns mean my crown naga comp is cooked

🅱️
Guys, how important are dupes for Crown? Because her ATK buff doesn't depend on her stats, right?
her S1 buff depends on her own stats
but people are going nuts right now cuz Naga heal targeting is bugged so "DO NOT LIMIT BREAK OR YOU BRICK YOUR TEAM" 
ez skip
waiting for nikke.gg now
Oh, then I'll go for dupes lol
So would it be recommended to go liter crown naga alice red hood?
Over tia lit nag rh alice?
And if so, should i spend mileage to mlb crown?
As long as you don’t get more dupes one copy is fine
wow I can't belive prydwen is this washed. They really put a b2 pilgrim buffer meta unit into b tier
smh
If you plan to use Naga as your meta comp with crown don’t get copies. If not go for it
I hope someone unironically complains about the B tier on there
Idk what the dmg ratio is for MLB and no OL/No gear to No MLB and OL gear. I haven’t seen anyone test that. But my guess is no MLB is stronger
it would be take two of sbs one
The comp with Naga will still work even if you have dupes
You'll just miss out on some damage if Crown doesn't take any hits
Not like the team is suddenly bad 
even in the case of 0 heals on crown
that comp has better stats compared to any other team
Mg pretty useless in arena and most people know that arena is about explosion battle
Wow with crown even modernia and xlud outdmg RH
Crowns abilities do seem pointless in pvp. Her shield or dmg jus won’t cut it in pvp
you're overestimating average yt viewer

remember when sbs was in SS tier for late story and commenters lost their mind
It's still higher than Tia naga
S*
She was always S

And she will stay there
She was SSS in boss
s in HD
SS in rest
lmao
I found them
yeah mb it was in S
does crown replace someone for the sw 1 shot team ?
crown abilities are amazing for pvp if she was a rocket launcher she would be an auto include
more like 30 fps locked pvp
What substats are good for crown?
60 fps pvp wouldn't fix mg
"The Gatling Lance
Let's first start with her special targeting system. Crown, unlike other combatants, has the ability to sense enemies that have "camouflage". These are raptures that cannot be normally targeted by non-manually controlled units. In other words, in order to hit them, you must manual your unit. Thankfully, this is not the case with Crown. She is able to "see through" this camouflage and can automatically assault these key targets, making it easier to coordinate attacks in a semi-piloted environment."
Is this state anywhere in her profile inside the game?
Other NIKKE: "It's not fair" 
Yup 
Wonder why now all of a sudden they make it to where a NIKKE can auto target those type of raptures. Just to give more meat into her kit or is this going to be important in future boss fights
I hope it won't be a real mech in bosses
Blanc no?
Crown SW Redhood Maxwell elegg
One spot left
Tia?
New one shot team ig?
I have to build my elegg too
I pulled her back then but I don't remember if she was any good

the bricked fiasco is overblown 
just wait for another unit to heal like rapunzel with CDR and a little buff here and there














