[Crown] New Unit Megathread

[mild sun]

There's no pins tho

[warm bobcat]

mobile?

[balmy mortar]

which should i lvl 10 first? s1 or s2?

[limber trout]

I'm trying to cope cook with crown in PvP right now

[warm bobcat]

check settings lol

[mild sun]

Yeah

[glad epoch]

click again on the name of the thread

[worthy belfry]

why my Crown deal a lot damage, i think she is a support

[limber trout]

Trying to boost her rank as much as I can, it's just not happening

[mild sun]

WHAT SICK MF PUT THEM HERE

[limber trout]

Discord

[warm bobcat]

yea lmao

[mild sun]

Shit app

[balmy mortar]

[wispy kraken]

@mild sun enjoy

[glad epoch]

this kinzari guy pisses me off tbh

[jovial quartz]

mod, ban that man

[lean canyon]

Ahh I see what I was checking wrong, yes,blanc does proc her S2, but it doesn't get refreshed until if finishes

[glad epoch]

https://tenor.com/view/punch-anime-girl-punch-gif-3087067746279166019

[lean canyon]

Kinda like Noise's healing

[balmy mortar]

thanks

[glad epoch]

sleep with one eyed open lil bro :3

[placid elbow]

yeah anything that does constant heal over time or life steal buff, only triggers once per cast

[autumn thunder]

Is Rapunzel much better than naga for consistency?

[balmy mortar]

on healing might be yes

[limber trout]

15 rocks
3 atk
1 ele
1 ammo

[glad epoch]

u gonna sleep with 1 eye open too mfer

[wispy kraken]

imagine having 15 rocks laying around

[mortal quarry]

Notice how Shitup has never handed out free manu gears and rocks?

[glad epoch]

tbh my rolls were not bad, used like 10 for 3 ele and 2 ammo and 1 attack

[limber trout]

They did give Manu gears

The Manu arms

[glad epoch]

once

1 selection box iirc

[mild sun]

Does not having a healer affect the importance of crown's skill 2?

[limber trout]

No

[lean canyon]

No, it just means that it won't be active 100% of the fight

[limber trout]

It's just atk buffs bro

You want them

[glad epoch]

😐

[lean canyon]

but it is 50% active as it is

[limber trout]

There's no budget for crown

She's like redhood

Max her out

[limber trout]

Mf that's good

Fym

[limber trout]

Also you crazy person, why lock line 1

[glad epoch]

cause i wanted attack + ele?

[limber trout]

Never lock line 1

[glad epoch]

why?

[limber trout]

Because it is against statistics

[wheat sierra]

Goodbye JK

[limber trout]

Yeah I assumed priv is back in meta

[wheat sierra]

Nihi hard

[glad epoch]

https://tenor.com/view/gideon-nerdy-gif-nerdy-gideon-nerdy-pushes-up-glasses-pushes-up-glasses-gif-25914290

[limber trout]

It's over now

[jovial quartz]

killed before they can graduate

sad

[agile beacon]

Yeah if this gets fixed, I'd use Naga over Rapunzel for sure

[lean canyon]

Not having resil at lvl 8 for the extra slot will bother me

[jovial quartz]

go get it then

[late bison]

Privaty is a believer, now she's back to meta

[lean canyon]

can't even if I wanted for the next 2 SR and URs

[mild sun]

Wait it is?

I thought crown didn't have heals?

[balmy mortar]

6 rock (including OL
4 attack
1 ammo

[mild sun]

[limber trout]

Bitch

[limber trout]

Try reading her skills

[wispy kraken]

what is this how do i play this

im confused

[jovial quartz]

is attack that good for her?

[lean canyon]

Getting 20 stacks of her S2 heals her

[limber trout]

What the fuxk

[limber trout]

No

It's just our rng

[mild sun]

Oh that counts for it? I thought it had to be another party member

Ok ty

[wheat sierra]

Infinity ammo Alice

[wispy kraken]

no i mean

what mode is this

[sinful aurora]

hard mode

[wheat sierra]

Nihilister hard chapter 20

[wispy kraken]

oooo

well im far away from that

ty

[modern talon]

is she worth using mileage over?

[wheat sierra]

Yes, your account bricked if u skip her

[zinc zodiac]

1 copy is good enough as she’s purely a pve unit although dupes do help her skill

[modern talon]

i'm thinking of using all my mileage tickets for her

i can get 3 dupes

[hoary adder]

don't think it's worth spending 15 days worth of sim 5c income for +3% AD and +0.81s invul and taunt right??

[wheat sierra]

Ya she OP

Alice back to best dps

[limber trout]

Don't even need OL Ammo now

Fuck that shit

We go for ele + atk + 2 ammo

[wheat sierra]

Still always depends on element

But yeah crown best support for Alice

And i would put crown only for dps that do constant damage

Like alice Redhood sbs

[past cape]

I went ahead and MLB'ed Crown

[wheat sierra]

Burst damage i mean

[dark dove]

i'm planning max all her skill, but, which should i go first? skill 1 or 2?

[wheat sierra]

Not one shotting like SW MW

Lol

Yeah

Big waste

[agile beacon]

Crown's flexible, stick her with any carries you want

But SR min/maxing is going to turn on boss mechanics

UR though, just 3 teams, Crown absolutely punted someone out

Kneel before your queen, heathens!

[worthy belfry]

which OL is good for Crown?

max ammo ?

[random stream]

Any new meta team with crown? Or is tiga still best?

[dark dove]

check pin

[worthy belfry]

oh so she need a healer

[naive widget]

my noah cope ends here

thank you crown

[dark dove]

Asking again... i'm planning max all her skill, but, which should i go first? skill 1 or 2? (have resource problem)

[worthy belfry]

i think skill 1, burst first

but which Nikke can heal all team

[dark dove]

Mary summer

[worthy belfry]

seem like dont need active Crown skill 2 everytime, so dont need healer

[tardy heart]

lock this?

ele

actually ima listen to kira's advice and lock line so i can get it faster probably

but more opinion welcome

[agile beacon]

You can skip using a healer, but it does cost you early 20% attack damage buff

[tardy heart]

so we want her 2 ammo or 4 ammo?

[royal heath]

more ammo better

[agile beacon]

2, minimum, more you can sure

But 2 is enough

It's not like you have better choices once you get 2 ammo, 4 ele, 4 atk

[balmy mortar]

11.81 + 11.81 + 11.11 + 8.29 = 43.02% atk
no elemental
1x hit rate
1x ammo

man where elemental

i got 2 stones on SI and no elemental

[dapper sleet]

u lock this line 2 here

[agile beacon]

Also controversial approach here, I'm thinking of ignoring Crown personal damage. Would mean I'm done rolling rocks already after 6 rocks 👀

Go me with only 2 Max Ammo

[soft loom]

So is Crown as good as you guy guess or even better?

[limber trout]

Read pins

[small bloom]

Roids for S. Anis

[soft loom]

100 pulls, MLB

[round forum]

how much ammo do you need with resil though

[limber trout]

evrything is in pins

[round forum]

pins just say "Always use Resilience cube on crown"

I was curious about Ammo req

[limber trout]

pretty sure theres OL recs too

[round forum]

Overload Recommendations:
2 ammo
4 ele
4 atk

But is that average? or just whatever? cause I got 4 Ammo Rolls

[limber trout]

at 60 fps

u shoot

180-300 ammo

so u want 100% ammo from 2 ammo minimum

so that u can safely shoot for 5 seconds

until next burst

with a micro fix of reloading at end of full burst

to keep everything at 100% reload speed

[limber forge]

When her S1 says previously burst, does that mean both B3 will get the attack buff on third full burst?

[royal heath]

if you are part of the full burst chain you get attack otherwise def

[dark dove]

the words kinda confusing tbh, for non-native like me

[calm bronze]

in the case for Red Hood, do the S1 buff stacks 3x?

[royal heath]

doesn't seem so unfortunately

unless bugged

[calm bronze]

ohh

😂

[glad epoch]

atk buffs like that gets dilluted, so they additively add not multiplicatively

[calm bronze]

Got it, it does seems to good to be true

[uncut heron]

Is she as good after testing?

[soft loom]

SSS Tier

You can't go wrong MLB or Core 7 her

[uncut heron]

rip, she and mod skin cane out when iam broke.

[round forum]

@limber trout rate of fire at full speed and 60fps is 60 rounds per second?

[placid elbow]

Yes

[round forum]

okay

I always forget that one thing

glad we have these channels

[limber trout]

#research-results has it somewhere

#research-results message

[round forum]

so in theory if we ever got uncapped frames it could go to 70

but they never will which is fine

good data

[limber trout]

Yeah MGs are nerfed and still the best weapon type

[round forum]

they are also just the most fun. I wish SMG was more valuable

But I dont know how they could fix it. The hit rate makes it bad and they arent really great up close

I think it would be great if characters like Soline fired 2 streams at once, one for each SMG

[mild sun]

anything can be good with absurd enough attack buffs

[lilac spoke]

do Crown really need to have 2 ammo if she's going to have a healer proc her S2 in solo raid anw and her fast reload speed eliminates most of the downtime.

[dapper sleet]

[lilac spoke]

kinda want to just use last month rocks reserve to fish more ele on RH/SW for upcoming raid
unless i'm missing smt and 2 ammo Crown is actually super big

[dapper sleet]

solo raid
healer

[lilac spoke]

i don't think Crown can solo tank

maybe your C7 Crown can

[dapper sleet]

reason u want 2 ammo crown is cuz 1 gets canceled out by privaty already

[lilac spoke]

aight bet, imma just hold them rocks for now until raid arrives

https://tenor.com/view/doro-dorothy-nikke-goddess-of-victory-nikke-santa-gif-78923470987598656

[placid elbow]

If you're using privaty, wouldnt you be at 100% rld speed already?

[dapper sleet]

not exactly

if u cant enter full burst quick enuf after one ends

crown will reload on 74% reload speed

u want that time period between full burst ends and entering the next one for crown to not reload

im thinking u need 480+ ammo on crown post privaty cut down

lemme play around on shooting range

i got 714 ammo crown

[devout matrix]

What’s the increase of total dmg buff from 1b0 to mlb? I guess it’s like less than 1%?

[dapper sleet]

@limber trout u got a 1 ammo crown?

[limber trout]

2

2 now

[dapper sleet]

2 is fine

i want to see how 1 looks like

[limber trout]

1 more rock
Removed an atk for ammo

[dapper sleet]

with alice spam

[limber trout]

It's not bad

Not the end of the world at least since all the damage is coming from Alice and redhood anyways

[dapper sleet]

i feel like 0 ammo u just kill urself

1 might be fine

[limber trout]

D Wife >> liter

For campaign

[dapper sleet]

is crown that busted for campaign shud i push

[lilac spoke]

with 1 ammo you can kinda just quick swap to Crown before fb ends
and she will have full ammo immediately

[dapper sleet]

[limber trout]

Yeah, she's pretty good tbh

[dapper sleet]

problem with this is if you are alice bursting and u lose 1 or 2 alice shots to do this

[lilac spoke]

[clever sand]

Rh>>>>

Rh is my B1 even against bosses

[limber trout]

Rh b3 is fun right now

Alice Rh together

So busted

[clever sand]

but Rh doesn't need realod

[ocean sphinx]

my crown naga team burst gen so slow

[clever sand]

It feel like Rh lose DPS in crown team

[ocean sphinx]

prob will still use tiga for a while

no SR dps

[clever sand]

fuck, I can't surpass my Rh, boomer hands

[limber trout]

Bro this is campaign

[clever sand]

I'm trying I'm suck hitting with alice

I miss the whole ruptures

[dapper sleet]

[ocean sphinx]

does this account for alice's own burst

or is it just her s1

I'm thinking about running liter crown mod bscar alice

with alice as burst gen + bscar buffer

[limber trout]

What're you talking about

[ocean sphinx]

and usually alice not bursting at all

[limber trout]

Sure

But SBS is trash

[clever sand]

Better og scar in campaign

[ocean sphinx]

well I'm using her, and only doing worse than RH/high invest alice teams

but that's not the point

if I never burst on alice

is she still a good buffer for bscar

idk how the charge speed conversion thing works

[clever sand]

Alice the buffer

[ocean sphinx]

and does she need OL gears if buffing

or is just s1 lvl 10 enough

[clever sand]

Yeah you right Alice is sbs buffer

[limber trout]

OL gears are for herself

[ocean sphinx]

like does her personal charge speed matter for the conversion

would she make bscar attack a lot faster during alice's burst, compared to during bscar burst

and while we're at it, I still believe bscar is rated too low

I fight at 35%-40% deficit regularly with mod + bscar

[limber trout]

40% deficit with Bscar

Normal campaign things

[dapper sleet]

wheres that calculator

that shows us the % chance of getting copies from gacha given X tries

[ocean sphinx]

I push higher in hard campaign actually, less cancer mobs

https://dskjal.com/statistics/chance-calculator.html

answer my alice question

[limber trout]

If you plan to use Alice without OL gear I don't think you should

[ocean sphinx]

my crown naga team runs into severe burst gen issues

[dapper sleet]

@limber trout does this mean i can core 4 crown with pity without being scared?

[ocean sphinx]

the other alternative is to invest into rapunzel a ton

[dapper sleet]

pls dont invest in rapunzel

noob unit

[ocean sphinx]

where's my rh?

and with how they're treating doro, there is a very likely probability my acc never gets rh

so I'm preparing as if I'll never get her

[dapper sleet]

i got redhood and modernia on a 10 pull on ordinary today

im sorry i stole it

ull get her eventually

prob not this banner tho

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-pikachu-pokémon-gif-15130256888716170546

[ocean sphinx]

I'll probably have to stick to tiga if alice isn't recommended

unless it's a stage where I don't need burst gen

[lilac spoke]

they coulda profit more if they rerun doro cuz all kind of players will pull her ass again

SU dum dum

[dapper sleet]

trust they add pilgrim banner 2nd anni

can wishlist 2 units

[placid elbow]

Dont worry she'll get a treasure by then:

S1 Part dmg convert to atk dmg

Ele dmg, atk dmg, dmg taken now affect brand dmg.

[deft drum]

So fellas is privaty a good option for the flex b3 slot since her 1st skill provides good buffs ?

[agile beacon]

Yeah

You can even just run Liter, Crown, Red Hood, Maxwell, Modernia, and go blow things up

[lilac spoke]

its Alice's turn to have her own infinite ammo "minigun"

https://tenor.com/view/lol-gif-26254741

[limber trout]

Time for an unexpected increase in macro ban reports

[autumn beacon]

infinite shots with a real atk buffer, since alice could do it before if you brought another reload booster like admi or xrupee, but who did that

[placid elbow]

@jolly gate group healing is actually just referring to heal share from Rem. Its just really poorly translated.

[limber trout]

So
Blanc and SMary work?

Right?

[placid elbow]

Yes

[dapper sleet]

sgay

[limber trout]

@lean canyon

[hollow hinge]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1038708366630977566/1047768821747941376/20221201_022935.gif

[copper shell]

nothing pepper does triggers crown?

[limber trout]

Crown needs to be lowest hp

Or pepper needs to burst

Both are bad for teambuilding

[copper shell]

when does the taunt proc again

[limber trout]

Every 14.6 seconds

[copper shell]

also doesn't pepper healing go left to right

so if no one is damaged (unlikely)

crown would be healed right?

[limber trout]

Pepper heals even if it's full hp

[copper shell]

yea

[ocean sphinx]

if everyone at full hp, pepper simply heals p1

[copper shell]

but wouldn't it heal furthest left unit if everyone is full hp?

[ocean sphinx]

so put crown there

[copper shell]

^

eon said it better lmao

[limber trout]

I see

[ocean sphinx]

from my experience pepper isn't worth it

gotta manual her, esp if using liter

rapu just easier

bc you don't need to babysit rapu

[hoary adder]

you don’t want to manual rapu anyway

rapu heal is on full charge

just let her auto

[ocean sphinx]

manual rapu is actually great for my team for burst gen

managed to get half my burst bar up with a single charge

[severe yew]

i been seeing some Alice cook here is the reload speed making it possible ?

[lilac spoke]

yes, think Biscuit inf ammo

that's what happen when you pair Crown + Priv for Alice

[hoary adder]

allowed me to beat 20 hard

[severe yew]

ahhh now thats a good thing

[hoary adder]

with 20s left

so yeah, busted

[lilac spoke]

Crown punked that dum lizard fr fr

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046509146318585987/1230407795648757770/1224756001090043975.gif

[severe yew]

i was thinking who da heck i should put on that slot if im not using Summer Anis + scarlet

[hoary adder]

UR wise, crown really shook things up

[severe yew]

Doro, Crown , Alice , Priv ?

[limber trout]

Match the elements if you can

Doro crown alice Maxwell/sbs
Doro crown SAnis scar
Doro crown Rh Alice
Doro crown Alice mod
Doro crown Rh xLud

Do whatever tf u want tbh

[deft drum]

Liter crown RH sbs Privaty my beloved

[limber trout]

Yeah I just used Doro for example

Liter/dwife

Can be used

SBS is low deficit queen

So in hands of casuals she is the true goddess, not redhood

[ocean sphinx]

btw, when are bunnies getting demoted

[deft drum]

I need to work on my Privaty skills ngl

[limber trout]

They alrdy got demoted

[ocean sphinx]

bc you can't convince me noir is better at high deficit than sbs

[limber trout]

?

I mean
It's totally different

SBS competes with modernia redhood scarlet Maxwell etc

[ocean sphinx]

idk man, I'm doing quite well with sbs at 35%+

[limber trout]

Bunnies just has 2 competitors

[ocean sphinx]

bunnies I stopped using a while ago

[limber trout]

sigh I'm not fighting against sbs believers again

[sinful aurora]

fight

[ocean sphinx]

26

yeah I don't

[dapper sleet]

too many campaign enjoyers here

just buy core dust and u have no trouble trust me

[limber trout]

1 day and it's 10k

[dapper sleet]

core dust BiS

SSSSSS tier

[limber trout]

Nah, crown can't compete with redhood thread

[ocean sphinx]

you think missing doro is hard? tch

[deft drum]

Oh right what's a good cube for crown

[ocean sphinx]

they need to buff burst gen for other weapon types

SR and RL burst gen are off the charts now

[agile beacon]

Wait, Brand New Year is 0/1?

Cool

Ah I’m in wrong channel

Sorry about introducing unrelated hot Nikkes to Crown’s megathread

[clever sand]

Bunnies demoted tier A when?

[jolly gate]

thanks

Time to demote rem in bossing

Just like that

[copper shell]

at least we got resets

[crystal edge]

True

[fierce canopy]

what whould be the premiere crown team rn?

[crystal edge]

They saw this coming from a mile away

[soft loom]

What is good amount of ammo for Crown?

I know I need 2 ammo line but still

[crystal edge]

60% + ammo roll lines

[soft loom]

Upcoming 60% DEF rolls

[agile beacon]

Someone said 100%, so combinations that lead to that

60% in one gear, 40% in another gear

Etc

More is always better though, I assume

[ocean sphinx]

did someone report naga healing bug yet

maybe we can get it fixed

so that it's lowest hp% instead of hp value

[copper shell]

ikn a year

just like xanne bug

[sinful aurora]

I refuse reporting any bug anymore

because my hero is still bug

day 1

so 1.5 years now

[ocean sphinx]

I might just 3OL crown

and 4OL my liter

so that my crown is at least second lowest hp in the team

she realistically just wants ammo right? should be fine

ooo, or put vigor on liter

can probably even put vigor on my bscar so that crown is lowest hp, I don't think bscar with 1 ammo needs bastion

[limber trout]

That won't work

Defenders have like ×1.25 hp

OL not enough to cover it

[ocean sphinx]

my crown is lb0

liter is core 2

rn my 2OL crown is slightly higher hp than 1OL liter

I think I can make it work

I doubt I'm the only one to think about optimizing hps so crown gets healed by naga, I expect hardcore malders to utilize it if they can

[soft loom]

60% minimum then

[desert charm]

Is she useful then Blanc or not really?

If not, then ok.

[lavish leaf]

holy feq

40 rocks and all i have are ammo+def ammo+hit rate ammo+attack and ele

[slender tulip]

can you do some full auto tests?

just for comparison

full auto alice gonna look hella different don't really have a team so suddenly

as i said

[vivid gorge]

Why such a difference

Just delay in shooting?

[soft loom]

I have Crown lv 6 all skills, not full OL yet and she deals high dmg, almost as high as Tia/Naga comp.
Damn

Auto, Shooting Range

[vivid gorge]

I got crown to 10/10/10 but waiting for OL since no rocks

I see I see, I have boomer hands on mobile so I usually just auto her

Splitting Tia Naga is an interesting choice

Thanks, is good info

My main campaign push team I just copied skyjj Tia, naga, mod, sbs, rh

[slender tulip]

what about raid teams?

since we surely won't use Liter, Crown and Naga in the same team during raid?

since you're already at it...

mind going for some Doro Crown teams?

[ocean sapphire]

absolutely Bricked account

[slender tulip]

yo Letsi

the chad

[hollow hinge]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1038708366630977566/1047768821747941376/20221201_022935.gif

[slender tulip]

got a Doro and Crown in the same pull

[sharp hatch]

just test crown with Marciana

and when marciana last bullet crown buff entire team att

[boreal junco]

so what's overall best single team to use in campaign with crown ?

[sharp hatch]

I think Marciana is pair well with Crown

[lone notch]

the current best is crown mod sbs(or other 3b) rh rapunzel(or naga)

[sharp hatch]

also, now we finally have a full function mono earth team

[limber trout]

is your dwife uninvested/not max invested?

[zealous seal]

auto alice gaming

[reef field]

is this 4/4/4 alice so slow

[reef field]

oh the burst was modernia first

no wonder

[zealous seal]

mod burst is 15s, crown burst also 15s, better than tia

[reef field]

yeah we called it the moment her kit got revealed

crown naga was an ez fit

[zealous seal]

same stage with tia, i need to rely on iframe here cuz not enough dmg buff for last wave (or maybe due to 20k cp diff)

[twin panther]

so are we booting tia from the team and use crown instead ??

[delicate ore]

i never thought the day would come where i use privaty and get 2 red hoods because of it 😮 😄

thanks shiftup for giving us a proper b2 so we don't have to use 2 nikkes in the team because of b2 slot 😄

[limber trout]

One 20 stack cycle = 43 bullets × 20 times
= 860 ammo

860/60 = procs every 14.33 seconds if crown has infinite ammo

You can add 0.5-1 second delay if you add windup loss + small reload delay

[limber trout]

The 60 comes from 60 bullets per second shot at 60fps

Lower FPS = takes longer

[pallid fiber]

Chat, what OL stats should I go for Crown, atk? or it's not even needed?

[limber trout]

Means bricked crown

[limber trout]

2 Ammo and 4 elemental is what you should aim for

[twin panther]

mobile=dead crown

[clever sand]

So Alice is the one who makes the best use of crown

Is like Rh gain... Nothing

[limber trout]

Probably? Especially if you have bricked Alice that can't shoot for 10s straight

[clever sand]

But Alice

[limber trout]

Any MG who doesn't have reload buffs will also benefit a lot

[clever sand]

Let me test when I can, my Alice has better ols than rh

[limber trout]

Basically anyone who properly scales on ammo OL can benefit from crown

[clever sand]

Yep

[limber trout]

Except guillomid

[clever sand]

Midhood again

[limber trout]

Rh benefits from everyone because she's flexible

Rh and xLud are nikkes that can be slotted in everywhere

Otherwise nikkes like sbs, Alice, modernia can lose damage in comps

[clever sand]

Reset bunnies

Go demoted bunnies to tier A

[pallid fiber]

Fucking stones giving trash rolls every single time

100% skill issue, should ramp up that gacha gameplay

[reef field]

bastion or resi on her ?

[limber trout]

Resil

[reef field]

whats peoples skill level preference

all of it?

oh they have pins here

thanks texas

[delicate ore]

if I have limited mats for skills, how do I prioritize the skillz?

[coral mason]

are there any skill prios for crown? liike if all are lvl 8 which should be next in upgrading skill 1 or 2?

[delicate ore]

i get her to 7/7/7, what's next?

[delicate ore]

hahaa 😄

[coral mason]

lmao

[twin panther]

10/10/10

[delicate ore]

yeah, but in what order? 😄

[lean canyon]

I corrected myself like 5 minutes later, it does proc but it won't refresh

[hoary adder]

10/7/10

10/7 because s1>s2
and burst 10 requires different materials than s1,s2 except for the iron books

[ocean sapphire]

hello champion Priv main

[clever sand]

ok

alice x2 ammo x2 atk (25%) charge speed 9%

rh x2 ammo ( :c ) x4 atk (41%) charge speed 1.,92%

crown x3 ammo 90%

[boreal junco]

hope crown is THAt good , I dropped 30k cp switching to her best team lol

[golden arch]

is Crown worth to pull

[forest trench]

📌

[clever sand]

@slender tulip what do you think?

[limber trout]

Bro
This event music

Like

Holy fuck

It's so good

[clever sand]

why I cant surpass myt rh?

help me snake

[limber trout]

Your Alice is shit probably

Try on fire weak

[clever sand]

...

28-30 hits

[limber trout]

How fast is macro

[clever sand]

33

[limber trout]

3shots/s?

[clever sand]

idk never played macro

[limber trout]

That's slow

[clever sand]

[limber trout]

Oh
How many ammo shot during burst, can you record and check?

[clever sand]

14

with naga crown

11 with privaty but no reload

[limber trout]

No
I mean how many bullets you shoot during burst

14?

[clever sand]

28-30

[limber trout]

That's 3 shots/s

If you can break your finger up to 4shots/s, you'll be able to surpass redhood

[clever sand]

[limber trout]

The problem is simple
Your redhood is shooting more shots (32-33)
Than your Alice (28-30)

If your Alice shoots more she would do more damage

Simple mafs

[slender tulip]

skill issue

[clever sand]

how much hits i did?

34?

Is iron, so neutral

Well I guess I need one more atk line in alice

[sinful aurora]

try again

this time with

[zealous seal]

280 bars left with crown priv
326 crown mod
342 bunnies
bunnies team has highest cp

[sinful aurora]

Liter Crown Alice Xlud Mod

[reef field]

I dont manual activate my bursts lmao im kinda having a hard time trying to position her

I guess I should also work with privaty now

[sinful aurora]

for 20-31, reload is better because there's no core 70% of the time, hence xlud is sitting duck there

[reef field]

ooh you guys switch subs?

[clever sand]

Show me yours

Your test I mean

[slender tulip]

what test

[clever sand]

SSS overall

well PvP D

[sinful aurora]

S

Segg

[clever sand]

Hard seggs

[placid elbow]

Yes check pin for bug report

[subtle bloom]

What’s a good skill build for Crown?

[twin panther]

my crown+naga is bricked

[hoary adder]

why?

[twin panther]

ol's

[mortal quarry]

whels are finding out that maxwell's extremely strong when used with crown
she basically boosts the other b3 (usually rh) to the moon

mw flinging out even more grapes

[sinful aurora]

it's either Priv/Maxwell as buffer

or throw another non burst DPS

like Mod/Xlud

[reef field]

not worth more copies

her dmg is so bad

[sinful aurora]

full investment will match Midlet => actually mid and I'm not mocking

[mortal quarry]

crown+naga gives more score than tia+naga in bossing scenarios
but that makes tia useless and not efficient for total score across 5 teams

[sinful aurora]

anyway, treat her as a buffer

[twin panther]

so whats the crown team

[sinful aurora]

it will save you A LOT OF Rocks and Gems

[twin panther]

something with punzel

[mortal quarry]

fat whel team: crown/naga/liter/rh/mw

[reef field]

yeah

not worth more than 1 copy imo

but it's a damn good 1 copy

[subtle bloom]

Soz hahaha, thanks!

[balmy mortar]

my unionmate said : "Don't ol unless u can guarantee ur crown is the lowest hp in ur team"

whats with crown if she has high hp?

am i missing something on crown?

[sinful aurora]

Naga can't heal her

[balmy mortar]

[sinful aurora]

Naga heals based on ABSOLUTE HP

and Defender normally has 13% more hp than Supporter

so once you reach a point

Naga will stop healing Crown

[twin panther]

she can if you don't ol

[sinful aurora]

and heal DPS instead

[twin panther]

[mortal quarry]

obviously a bug, they'll fix it before SR I wager

[sinful aurora]

OL actually matters very less the higher lv you are

[balmy mortar]

how tf ABSOLUTE HP??

is this new naga bug ?

cuz s2 says lowest hp

bruh

[twin panther]

we hope its a bug

but you know bugfixes

[clever sand]

yeah, with the lowest hp %

[twin panther]

1 question tho

is crown naga still better than tia naga

[clever sand]

so if crown has 99% hp and the other 100% naga must heal crown

but she doenst

so it's over

[twin panther]

she does heal if its like that

but if everyone is max hp healers should do left to right

every other healer does that

but naga still checks hp and heals lowest max hp

[clever sand]

somebody reported the bug?

[twin panther]

yep

[clever sand]

imma report rn

[balmy mortar]

ABSOLUTE HP means like this hp?

[placid elbow]

https://discord.com/channels/946719263866101821/1232862400580157541

Upvote and bump i guess

[sinful aurora]

nope, absolute in lowest hp

not %

like description

[balmy mortar]

ehhh

[placid elbow]

Basically bug is right now:
If my attacker at 400/400 hp and defender is at 500/1000 hp, naga will heal the 400/400 full health attacker instead of the half hp defender.

[balmy mortar]

bruh

[clever sand]

[placid elbow]

Its dumb cus they actually fixed this bug b4.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1232862400580157541/1232866101373829161/image.png?ex=662b0388&is=6629b208&hm=92db16b28d9578fca1cf4ddff67cbdeadf4cf4a263b4456ebfaf9bdc1cd4196d&

[hoary adder]

so hp percentage is a lie?

same with pepper?

[zealous seal]

what about remove 1 piece for lower hp?

[mortal quarry]

no, peppa works

[placid elbow]

Afaik only naga is cucked

[mortal quarry]

can't do that when you're full ol lmao

[hoary adder]

is there a list of who works and who doesn't

[zealous seal]

not me, im still 2/4 atm

[mortal quarry]

it's obviously a bug and is getting fixed

the question is if we get some free pulls outta it

[clever sand]

imagine crown with 50% hp but still over the others party members

rip crown

[twin panther]

yes, they will fix it in 2nd anni

[clever sand]

instead of riot about gacha skin or rerun doro

[mortal quarry]

not rerunning doro shows that shitup has a modernia bias

[twin panther]

I mean, who doesn't

[clever sand]

i guess they dont want to rerun anniversary units

[reef field]

modernia sucks hard toddler brained bitch

but shift up doesn't like money either ppl would pull for a pilgrim rerun too

[placid elbow]

Just get her skin, mature woman now

[twin panther]

someone wants to be blocked I guess

[reef field]

yeah imagine paywalling her brain

[mellow phoenix]

They must have planned the gacha skin already when they reran Modernia

[clever sand]

sure it doesnt matters the important think rn is naga bug

[reef field]

have you made a bug report

[placid elbow]

Ye @reef field

[reef field]

upvoted

[formal raven]

New Character, new bug. As expected from SU

so we don't use Tia anymore then

[severe yew]

New compensation? Maybe:3

[twin panther]

tia in the dumpster until sr I guess

[winter folio]

Hard Campaign stages clear comp

[twin panther]

does your crown has bottom 2 hp or not

[winter folio]

No

8m1 HP

You want to proc her S2 instantly right?

Honestly, it doesn't matter

Modernia will melt everything in first 15 sec

[twin panther]

more like 100% uptime

mine is similar but I use sw instead of mw because sw Pog

[twin panther]

I really need to 10-x-10 my mw too

[winter folio]

Just put MW in and you wont need 2nd burst

tons of buffs

[twin panther]

yep

[reef shard]

guys do you think liter + crown works better than blanc + noir with alice + maxwell teams?

[winter folio]

Crown herself already stronger than Blanc Noir

[reef field]

yes

[reef shard]

nice, my bricked account might have been saved by the mileage tickets

[twin panther]

crown+punzel is just below tia naga

its insane how much crown buffs

[sinful aurora]

and the neat part is
Although Tia Naga > Crown Rapu
But Liter Tia Naga DPS + Mod < Liter Crown Mod + 2 DPS

because you don't burst with mod in Crown team

and she will pay off with huge dmg

[twin panther]

depends

on bosses sure

on campaign ? nah

[winter folio]

Crown + healer are just bad

[sinful aurora]

10% more dmg feels very overrated

a flex support or non burst DPS will definitely make up for that

[twin panther]

I mean you can use xlud instead of punzel

[sinful aurora]

10% because S2 is only 50% uptime without healer

[twin panther]

and it would be the same

[sinful aurora]

it's not the same

Xlud deals tons of dmg

[twin panther]

what I mean is a single healer gives the same dps boost as sub dps

[sinful aurora]

and that's what I reject

[twin panther]

like 0 investment

slam a healer

and its better than low investment sub dps

[clever sand]

gatrix rejecting ludmommy

[sinful aurora]

I highly recommend not forcing a healer

[reef field]

1 more dps should be better than 1 healer

[sinful aurora]

unless you are fighting Bronchus

and from what I've seen

there a lot of Bronchus in C29 and 30

hard stage pushers will definitely notice it

[reef field]

they spawn 1-2 at a time

should be able to hard nuke them

haven't seen 3+ bullshit yet

bronchus are everywhere in c20

[sinful aurora]

may be they will deal stupid dmg like 19-6

[reef field]

bronchus with the dmg up little shit

[solar reef]

So what's the verdict with the "Crown Brick" thing?

[twin panther]

crown brick is worse than unbrick crown

but still better than everyone else

[reef field]

shit for campaign team but won't matter on sr

Tiga is still easier to use

shitty bug but crown is better though

[twin panther]

bricked crown naga still does more damage than tia naga

its so funny

[solar reef]

I honestly think it's goofy since Naga should go to Tia Naga teams anyways unless there's more to it

[twin panther]

how broken she is

[reef field]

naga belongs with crown

tia's shield is as important as the dmg sometimes

[placid elbow]

I think ideally what crown wants in 5th slot is healer that can also dmg buff, so basically like naga after bugfix.

3rd dps is basically never getting her s1 atk buff

[twin panther]

crown shields too

same thing

[reef field]

nope

crown wants a dps in slot 5 that heals her for 1 hp so she triggers s2

try to fight sinister with Crown

[twin panther]

wdym nope

[reef field]

good luck

[twin panther]

where can I find it

I guess I have to push hard 17 or something

first

[slender tulip]

Do we know if other healers with similar effects are bugged too or only Naga?

[reef field]

i didnt have the chance to test Crown with Sinister

[twin panther]

I really see no difference between crown and tia shield ngl

[twin panther]

for now only naga

[reef field]

Tia shield is the only thing that block his laser

[twin panther]

other got fixed recently

[reef field]

blanc and centi don't do shit

odd why is that

crown shield should be able to block it too

crown also gives individual shields

unlike centi

[twin panther]

crown is same as tia

[reef field]

crown shield is like tia's shield

[twin panther]

shields every single unit individually

[reef field]

if then i take it back

[twin panther]

she is just better tia

[placid elbow]

Afaik just naga.

They bugfixed other healers way back

[reef field]

can test vs modernia si

block laser at the start

[twin panther]

I guess Tia's only upside is 100% uptime controllable taunt

Which is clutch on some stages ngl

[reef field]

i do think so

Crown outshine her in buff

but the taunt is also valuable

[hoary adder]

also burst gen

[twin panther]

With the new auto thing

Rh gets burst on 1 clip

[reef field]

my RH has no ammo line

can't use her for single burst gen unit

[winter folio]

You bench a DPS for a healer to make a buff works

That's very very very bad

Then who's gonna use that S2 full time

[rough haven]

Is s1 higher priority than s2?

[zealous seal]

you realize that crown shield and tia shield is the same right?

[reef field]

i rectify that down the line

you skipped that part

[winter folio]

you have to level up S2 to make it works easier

All skills are important anyway

[reef field]

10/10/10 or crown bricked

[rough haven]

Yeah, I realize that. But I only have so many mats lol

[reef field]

unistall someone

[old crest]

How good is crown?

[reef field]

sss tier no joke

[winter folio]

Just go for S1 first

It's easier to use

[clever sand]

must pull or leave the game

[old crest]

Meanwhile looking at my account comparison

[winter folio]

But when u have enough, just go for 7/7/7

[old crest]

13k cp difference

[winter folio]

10/10/10 when u'r really wanna try hard in SR/UR

[rough haven]

She’s at 7/7/5 right now

[twin panther]

The point is she can work on los investment 5th unit. I won't but a lot of players lack 5 full teams of units

[reef field]

crown is meta for campaign every reason to max her

meta for tower

[rough haven]

Should I reset my 7/4/7 xlud and feed those mats into crown?

[reef field]

meta for sr

can't hurt to max

[old crest]

She a B2 meta

A B2 pilgrim a mist

[winter folio]

3 teams can get 3% , or even 1% base on ele dmg lines

Tia Naga Dwife + 2

Liter Bunnies + 2

Doro Crown Priv + 2

Crown infinite ammo is much better than pariing a healer with her

[reef field]

in doro crown team priv must take the flex slot

just make the team survive somehow

[rough haven]

Helm?

[winter folio]

U already have Crown

[rough haven]

Crown doesn’t heal others

[winter folio]

Shield + taunt + immnue

[reef field]

crown shield should carry

[winter folio]

Bro

U just need to fast burst gen

To make the shield cover

Then the taunt will cover when shield is gone

When taunt is expried

Shield burst will be up again

Loop

[twin panther]

You get 3% even without playing on the last stage of sr

Eu is built different

[reef field]

no u don't

eu is ez not that ez

[rough haven]

I need sanis for my doro priv team

[twin panther]

I did get 3% on cb Sr without playing

[rough haven]

Until then, my doro priv team sucks

[winter folio]

As I said, it's a flex problem

Base on boss weaknest

[twin panther]

Or maybe that was a cb issue

[reef field]

why not doro crown b3 b3 priv

should be fine without sanis

they can use other b3

[winter folio]

+2 is just flex base on boss

[reef field]

we're so set for ur this is a joke

auto play afk wins

[sharp delta]

havent we been set for UR for a while now

[placid jolt]

What happened to "I'm only ever spending mileage on Pilgrims again"

[sharp delta]

[tardy heart]

does Crown have to be lowest hp in naga's team to proc s2?

[reef field]

with biscuit i had to spam her shots

[limber trout]

I was feeling lucky

[rough haven]

Put crown in p1 and have full hp on everyone

Naga should heal p1 right?

[sharp delta]

iirc naga heals lowest value hp

[reef field]

naga heals lowest absolute hp

[rough haven]

Oh

Welp

[tardy heart]

has it always been lowest value or lowest hp

[sharp delta]

thats the same thing

[winter folio]

You guys really put too much pressure on that problem

[sharp delta]

[winter folio]

[reef field]

its free dmg loss

don't see why it's a joke

free dmg

[winter folio]

I would say it really doesn't matter in hard campaign

[reef field]

all dmg matters

[winter folio]

You will need Crown HP to survive in SR later

[reef field]

people pay for dmg

and get cucked

ofc it's an issue this is a no brainer

[sharp delta]

just hit that retry button

until she takes a hit

[reef field]

better not get one shot

[limber trout]

just
dont use naga

ez

[sharp delta]

just know which hits dont 1shot u

[limber trout]

Liter back to Bunnies

[winter folio]

You sacrifice the only way to survive

[limber trout]

what is higher damage:
liter rem b3 b3 b3
or
liter blanc b3 b3 noir

[winter folio]

To make her S2 up full time for a Hard Campaign

[sharp delta]

liter with bunnies synergy is so nice

[limber trout]

is there any case where bunnies are higher damage than rem b3 b3 b3

[sharp delta]

ammo max + noir reload, atk + dmg taken buffs

[winter folio]

I don't see Rem have chance until we have another strong RL DPS

[limber trout]

iirc skyjlv stream said that
liter rem b3 b3 b3
had higher damage ceiling than
liter bunnies

but i never confirmed it

he called rem team 2

[mortal quarry]

@limber troutI think rem wins when you have an abundance of good b3 dps
which we don't have atm

[limber trout]

over bunnies

[limber trout]

im pretty confident we do tho

[mortal quarry]

not enough for 5 teams though

[limber trout]

again, i think we do

[reef field]

rem paired with 2 rl and xlud could work why not

[hoary adder]

off topic but you think resetting tove is ok?

[winter folio]

bunnies strength is bullets maintain

The only strong thing is come from Blanc

[clever sand]

Facetank

[limber trout]

lets just go over nikke pairs used in previous raids

• redhood xLud
• alice sbs
• maxwell mod
• SAnis Scarlet/Elegg
• SW Yulha
• Tove

[winter folio]

So, if

Your Rem is strong

and the 3 other DPS are strong enough

To out DMG the DMG taken debuff from Blanc

That's the only way

[winter folio]

I already reset

I don't even know when we will use her again

5%

[mortal quarry]

cindy b3 cdr sg

BELIEVE

[limber trout]

excluding unnamed SG
there's
emilia as sub dps in rem team (she's alright since there's parts upcoming raid)
Guillotine for Moran team
2B for tanking

You can definitely put in units

we have some for every slot

[limber trout]

upcoming raid (?)

[sharp delta]

i want to reset my guilo but my elysion tower

[winter folio]

nah i dont think so

non cd is aids

Last time MPriv was strong cause Mod was with her

[limber trout]

it does the damage
it matched SW carry team last raid nearly lol

[winter folio]

extra 5s FB time give her more 5s atk buff

[sharp delta]

its ok surely we will get our b3 cdr sg dps healer

and tove will skyrocket

to the moon

[winter folio]

you mean what comp

Tove SG ?

I was talking about Tove SG

[limber trout]

if we do liter rem we can do tove bunnies

like tae did last raid

[winter folio]

.

[limber trout]

[winter folio]

This is what I mentioned

[placid elbow]

Bugged atm

[slender tulip]

i love that Crowns weapon sounds like a MG with silencer

[placid elbow]

Yea i was expecting laser beams or some shit

[twin panther]

I was expecting a RL with projectile swords

Or lances

[winter folio]

also it depends on boss anyway

Now you can do the infinite ammo Mod if your Mod has low ammo

And if really want to play Tove

[sharp delta]

but then who do u use with ur 4th cdr volume team?

novel helm?

[limber trout]

Vol novel sw

[winter folio]

It can be Tove Bunnies Sugar + CDR ( Dolla )

[sharp delta]

i reset my novel tbh