[Crown] New Unit Megathread

[crystal edge]

Nothing beats the crit sound in destiny child, when you just brain blast the boss with like 10 mill dmg per hit

[zealous holly]

Its going off the fucking UI

I loved it so much

[crystal edge]

Unfortunate it got shafted

Was a pretty friendly game too

[zealous holly]

Probably one of the worst updates ive seen in all of gacha too

Kings raid i mean

[crystal edge]

Ive seen worse, but yeah

Certainly in the list

[zealous holly]

How many gacha games can you say added a korean mmo system where your gacha items can go backwards in level on a failed enhancement

But anyway, crown gaming

[crystal edge]

Two in my mind

Probably more if I looked around

[crystal edge]

No

Crown bad

Everyone knows that

[zealous holly]

I can't do math so my opinion is that of the masses that say "these numbers good"

[crystal edge]

DahKas

Thats cap

You just cant do nikke math

[zealous holly]

Ur not supposed to tell them that

I used to make clear guides for endgame with the minimum stat requirements for KR lol

[crystal edge]

You snitched on yourself when you said 1 and a half nikke?

[crystal edge]

BRO

That would explain how the f you understood the talk earlier

[zealous holly]

I mean i wasnt dealing with idle game bs so its much easier to be like "hey you can clear the highest stage of this boss with this specific character only having 8m hp, 20k def for the tank to survive, etc"

[crystal edge]

Thats still math tho

Fluent in korean gacha math

Add that to your resume

[zealous holly]

Yeah but most of it has to deal with visual/gameplay situation, rather than hard math

Like rather than it being calced that with perfect play ull clear it with like a second left. Its more like "how much stats does ur tank need to survive comfortably throughout the whole battle with any healing mechanics in mind and such"

[soft loom]

MLB? I only have 300 Mileage tickets

Is crown confirmed limited?

[zealous holly]

Shouldnt be, she's not a collab or seasonal unit

[crystal edge]

^

[zealous holly]

Into the pilgrim pool she goes

[crystal edge]

Ah, that makes sense

[soft loom]

Nihil and Noah enter retirement in Pilgrim tower's squad

[crystal edge]

Finally

[zealous holly]

i used to send this to so many peepz as a stat guide to the content that i had it saved as an image file whenever someone asked what they need to clear that fight on highest stage for all 3 of those end game fights

and that's just for the tanking/survivability side of things

good times

[mint root]

So will crown be a must pull or a solid skip ?

[zealous holly]

Just check pins

[agile beacon]

You could say that Crown is a “must read pins”

[rocky mantle]

timer for crow banner¿?

[slender tulip]

Crow banner

[zealous holly]

Crow to the nth power banner

[mortal quarry]

MODS I CAN SEE HER NIPPLE PIERCINGS

[sinful aurora]

rmb, you can always chat in Prydwen with me

[clever sand]

Fixed

Mods can see the original pic,and there's no problem with the original o pic

[sinful aurora]

[reef field]

that bot struck me once just for posting a pull

never again

[mortal quarry]

@clever sandit was a joke. I bet you can post it to the officialcord and not get messed up

[clever sand]

Lol, what did you post?

[sinful aurora]

literally cropped

and they digged it out

but this one is okay, later on when I'm tired of the bullshit

[clever sand]

Ahahahajaj I know that one

[sinful aurora]

as long you follow the pastor of Crow's church

you will know

[clever sand]

Idk, I don't hate crow

And I like her design

[worthy coral]

[mild crystal]

no way

[west moth]

The pinned post is interesting, especially the part where it says:

Stats for Nerds: Damage buff comparison
Tia Naga = ×2.669
Crown = ×2.248
Blanc Noir = ×1.97 (ammo buffs considered as buff)

Where in this is it counted that the top B3s often have around 100% atk buff for themselves, not counting atk buffs from b1 or the 5th slot, which all dilute Crown's damage buffs a lot, but Blanc's burst doesn't care about any of that?

[sinful aurora]

you mean the 39% dmg buff vs 57% dmg buff from Crown?

[west moth]

Yes, Blanc's buff being much higher than Crown's for the same percentage

[sinful aurora]

I don't know, my math teacher told me 39 < 57

[west moth]

I don't think that's how the math works

[sinful aurora]

so 39 is bigger than 57 now?

[past cape]

Wait I can’t click pins on mobile

[ocean sphinx]

If you don't have any other sources of atk DMG, atk DMG basically same as DMG taken

[past cape]

What the burst skill

[sinful aurora]

well SBS, RH has 70~100% ATK buff on self

so inflation happens

but 39 < 57 always

[ocean sphinx]

The only other notable atk DMG source is tia

[reef field]

has math got an update? new patch

[sinful aurora]

ATK up =/= Attack Damage

Attack Damage belongs in the same group as Weakpoint

[past cape]

Is it damage done or damage taken

[sinful aurora]

ATK up is, ATK up

[quartz pond]

Burst is damage done

same for S2

Only S1 is ATK Up

[past cape]

Gotcha, so they are final damage calcs

[sinful aurora]

with burst and S2 alone, Crown slaps the shit out of bunnies

[quartz pond]

Yup

[past cape]

Except healing and sustain and ammo

[ocean sphinx]

[quartz pond]

Reload practically makes up for the ammo

[past cape]

Bunnies aren’t obsolete, we should celebrate

[quartz pond]

and healing can be done by any other healer in the game

[sinful aurora]

and the fun part? You enjoy that dmg through 15s, not like Blanc debuff which's gone when you kill Raptures

[quartz pond]

Crown is one Nikke

[past cape]

That we have another meta team completed

Idk if I’m going to mlb her

I might just because tanks really need the base stays

Stats

[west moth]

RH has 71%, SBS has 115%, Ludmilla has 62%, Modernia has 29%, Alice has 55% atk up

Some higher, some lower

[boreal junco]

so her personal damage will be high too due to the buffs ?

[quartz pond]

She's not a full tank tho

[past cape]

I’m talking about her base stats

[quartz pond]

The only time she's taking direct aggro is when she's invincible

[past cape]

She probably needs all the help she can get

For atk

[ocean sphinx]

That ain't atk DMG, it's atk %

[sinful aurora]

I don't know why En trans decided Attack Damage

[ocean sphinx]

S1 is diluted yes, burst and S2 aren't, unless also using tia for some reason

[sinful aurora]

then we have people think ATD = ATK up

[quartz pond]

Literal translation from Japanese is why

[sinful aurora]

can just say

"Final Damage up"

[quartz pond]

攻撃ダメージ = kougeki damage = attack damage

[sinful aurora]

[ocean sphinx]

Just use DMG bonus

[sinful aurora]

bonus is wild

[quartz pond]

Meanwhile the Japanese for what we call ATK is 攻撃力 = kougekiryoku = "Attack Power"

[reef field]

code bonus when

iron dmg bonus

[past cape]

Is it exactly the same buff as bunnies or is it the mirror

[sinful aurora]

because bonus/additional dmg won't core hit

[limber trout]

@west moth what's the math then

[sinful aurora]

it's different buff as bunnies

[west moth]

Oh, so atk damage multiplies with all the atk buffs?

[sinful aurora]

yeah

[past cape]

I wonder if there’s any way to stack

Even though 2x b2

[limber trout]

It adds

ATK and attack damage are seperate buffs which is why you're confused

[west moth]

I hate Crown's skill description so much LOL

[sinful aurora]

39% from bunnies with 57% from Crown, let's say. What's the final dmg?

1.39 x 1.57

[limber trout]

ATK adds with ATK
Attack damage adds with attack damage

They are seperate multipliers

[sinful aurora]

but 32% from Tia and 57% from Crown = x1.89

I hope you pleb can follow

[past cape]

Crowns might be better because it’s 15s on. Your units rather than 10s onscreen enemy

[quartz pond]

Attack damage applies after ATK calculations

[past cape]

If only for

[quartz pond]

damage amplification would probably be the best term to use

[west moth]

Yeah, nevermind then

[limber trout]

We are never wrong

[quartz pond]

ATK is used to determine how much damage a hit will do, while attack damage buffs just increase that final number (correct me if I'm wrong, but that's how I've understood it)

[ocean sphinx]

SU loves using ATK where it is most confusing

[sinful aurora]

Crown competes with Tia Naga

bunnies are mid now

and it's crazy to say that

[quartz pond]

Bunnies T3

[limber trout]

Lmfao

[ocean sphinx]

Kilo burst description, and ATK DMG too

[sinful aurora]

but yeah, they are mid

[quartz pond]

Doro T4

[sinful aurora]

what an era we are in

[limber trout]

Out of meta 😭

[west moth]

She has stacks that she automatically loses, but the skill doesn't say it; she buffs everyone in the burst chain and I missed it because it's a full burst buff; atk damage vs. atk up...

[quartz pond]

Snow White and M Priv coping in T5

[past cape]

Any thoughts on the mlb?

[ocean sphinx]

Crown loses stacks?

[past cape]

I’m considering it for the CP alone

[ocean sphinx]

Isn't S2 infinite duration

[quartz pond]

[limber trout]

Team 4 is still copium tho if you put rem or crown in Doro priv

[west moth]

"after the stacks are removed"

When are the stacks removed?

[past cape]

Btw in the calf for bunnies is noirs constant 14% counted

[quartz pond]

When the second part of the skill activates

[limber trout]

After 43 bullets are shot 20 times

[ocean sphinx]

That's just part of the s2

[west moth]

The skill description doesn't say that, that's why I was madge about it

[quartz pond]

It's obvious if you've been paying attention to how skills are formatted

[ocean sphinx]

Stacks themselves don't expire, only removed at 20

[limber trout]

We have a 5 minute video on YouTube for it

[past cape]

So after 14s of continuous fire

She proves

Procs*

[quartz pond]

14-ish

[limber trout]

Bro
It says it right there

The stacks are removed after max stacks

[quartz pond]

14.3 if you don't reload at all, a little long if you have reloads

[zealous holly]

It does say it tho....it literally says her skill 2 gets 1 stack every 43 bullets and it stacks up to 20 times, and then when it reaches max stacks its removed and u get the temporary buffs

[quartz pond]

It doesn't literally say that fully stacking causes the removal

That's the complaint

[past cape]

Seems like she will benefit most from raw Asmo

Ammo

[zealous holly]

Like its implied directly

[ocean sphinx]

How much total ammo does she need with bastion to not reload

[sinful aurora]

[ocean sphinx]

Idk how to do bastion math

[quartz pond]

Meanwhile the Famitsu description during JP stream actually stated it

[sinful aurora]

10800 / 1.42

do it

[west moth]

I would like them to at least state "when stacks reach 20, removes all stacks"

[quartz pond]

Don't even need Bastion

860 shots can be achieved with OL buffs

[past cape]

You can reach that with some decent ammunition rolls

[west moth]

But at least that much I figured out when I looked up people talking about her

[zealous holly]

Mmm, actually i slightly see what you mean

[sinful aurora]

you can just

reload

[ocean sphinx]

Where did 10800 come from

[quartz pond]

But Resilience is probably better

[sinful aurora]

you know

60 hits per sec x 180

= 10800

[zealous holly]

But maybe its on me for immediately understanding vs a tiny wall of initial confusion making a big diff

[quartz pond]

because looking at trying to not reload for the first buff ignores the long-term uptime

[past cape]

Answer is 860 bullets

Easier to do 43*20 /60

To get 14.3

[sinful aurora]

if you have 1 line of Ammo to be like, 430 ammo (+130 ammo gain or 43.4% ammo up)

[ocean sphinx]

Yeah ik 860, but how much is it if including bastion

[sinful aurora]

you only need 15s every proc

for bastion

you need 605 ammo

[west moth]

But, as for Crown's actual damage buff, it's 1.57x plus the 64% atk up which is probably around 50% of the B3s attack, then diluted with the other atk buffs

[past cape]

Bastion is just 3more for every 10

[sinful aurora]

with Bastion lv 7+

[past cape]

But it’s a waste to use bastion on her

[ocean sphinx]

Ok so .. 2 good ammo rolls

[past cape]

She doesn’t really care about any other OL rolls

[limber trout]

Bro we alrdy
Did the
Math

[past cape]

Except maybe some hr

She’s not a dps main, she’s enabling

[quartz pond]

Both JP and EN skill kits didn't make the S2 100% clear, so I can understand some frustration. Better readout would've been:

Relax: HP Potency ▲ 4.06% continuously, stacks up to 20 time(s).
Activates when Relax is fully stacked.  Stacks are removed.  Affects self after the stacks are removed.```
etc. etc.

[limber trout]

• Tia Naga = ×1.45 ×1.3211 ×1.[472×0.8333] = ×2.669
  Core damage buff × attack damage × ATK

• Crown = ×1.[6451×0.666] ×1.5723 = ×2.248
  Attack buff × attack damage

• Blanc Noir = ×1.3926 ×1.1408 ×1.24 = ×1.97
  Damage taken × ATK buff × Damage buff due to Ammo

[past cape]

She just gotta brrrt

[west moth]

Why is Crown's atk buff multiplied by 0.6, because it only hits 3 of the 5 nikkes?

[sinful aurora]

nope

[limber trout]

Add
Crowns self DPS
And
Crowns reload speed into the equation

And crown is number one

[sinful aurora]

because ATK of Defender = 66.67% ATK of Attacker

[limber trout]

Because her ATK buff is caster's atk and defenders are 66.66% ATK stat of Attacker Nikkes

[sinful aurora]

so that 64.35% is actually 43% ATK buff to Scarlet/Red

[clever sand]

I refuse to call bunnies mid when they can facetank nihilister breath

[sinful aurora]

did you tank last SR?

[quartz pond]

Only in phase 1

[sinful aurora]

I couldn't

[limber trout]

What SR did you even play

[sinful aurora]

need at least Core +3 in order to do so

imagine Emilia at core +3

[limber trout]

I'm pretty sure you can't tank with bunnies

[past cape]

Imagine having weak bunnies

[quartz pond]

No, it was possible

[sinful aurora]

can tank till next rotation

just need high dupe

[quartz pond]

Only once though

[limber trout]

For blanc?

[quartz pond]

That's how the Volume/Bunnies comp was working

[limber trout]

Wait wtf

[zealous seal]

you can, just need few copies on your dps

[sinful aurora]

for ALL

[clever sand]

It was possible lol

[ocean sphinx]

I heard ppl tanked it by investing into Blanc S2...

[limber trout]

I was bricked for being f2p last raid??

[sinful aurora]

more hp and Blanc also heals a lot

yes nub

[clever sand]

Is how I survive the whole battle

[limber trout]

Fucking shit game

[sinful aurora]

my base Emilia died miserably

[limber trout]

I hope eos soon

[sinful aurora]

but Hesy could eat the flame once

[ocean sphinx]

Then had ppl recommending S2 invest on Blanc bc of it

[past cape]

Bunnies are busted bc blanc is god

If it doesn’t one shot you can recover

[sinful aurora]

nice way to pronounce

"mid"

[zealous seal]

your atker need core2+

[sinful aurora]

[clever sand]

Nah my blanc has S2 lvl 6, it was enough to resist mommy dragon breath

[limber trout]

Imagine not having individual shields for each nikke

Couldn't be bunnies

[ocean sphinx]

See S2 invest

[zealous holly]

Honestly nikke en skill descriptions can be ridiculous at times tho.

Like I swear i wouldn't be surprised if its like:

S2: quik maffs - activates after firing 500 bullets. Adds 1 and 1 together to make a number less than 3.
Upon making a number that is equal to 2: Gain Big Brain - def up 10%

[ocean sphinx]

I ain't lvling S2 higher than 4

[limber trout]

We always crosscheck with JP so don't worry about that

Only mistranslation was bay kit

[clever sand]

I can't make a video rn but is not that easy survive with bunnies, but still possible

[quartz pond]

There have been more mistranslations than just Bay

Crown and Kilo are fine tho

Remember the dream of AoE Helm burst?

[clever sand]

First round before first jump

Only the last hit

[sinful aurora]

I know

When you said core +2

It is doable

Remind me of harvester

[quartz pond]

Never forget

[sinful aurora]

More core = tank laser without dying

[quartz pond]

First banner

[zealous holly]

There's no cover shield mechanic right?

Like a shield specifically for cover

Only health shield

[quartz pond]

My core 5 Nero was invincible

[ocean sphinx]

Kilo shield probably protects cover

[lean canyon]

[robust gulch]

Just C7

[sinful aurora]

All shields protect cover

Not you

[zealous holly]

[past cape]

Just be rich it’s ez

[zealous holly]

o

[hoary adder]

nvidia might be the same btw.
almost same style as nihil with a transformation phase

gonna get statchecked to the max

[sinful aurora]

I will record later when my red dies to meteor of 20-31 with shield on

[lean canyon]

Indi looks like a nightmare will all the flying mobs and rockets

[robust gulch]

Anyone can check in PV if Nvidia has core?

[limber trout]

So now bunnies are a whale unit???

Literally D tier

[limber trout]

Just check #raid-planning pins

[sinful aurora]

It is not about bunnies

[sharp delta]

bunnies where always whale imagine having to pull 2 units just to use them

[sinful aurora]

It is about your own dps

[sharp delta]

tia naga too

[sinful aurora]

They need 12% hp to survive longer

[ocean sphinx]

Indi is just Decepticon

[limber trout]

Bunnies are truly dead in my books

You know the best part about crown, we can finally derank bunnies

[lean canyon]

SSS to SS

[sinful aurora]

And tia

[lean canyon]

[sinful aurora]

Naga stays

[limber trout]

Why Tia bruh
She's still pushing P at 43% deficit

[ocean sphinx]

Ayo wait... Crown for whale 5sec should be enough for elites right?

[limber trout]

I'm not demoting Tia

[west moth]

What B1 and 5th slot healer are Crown meant to be run with?

[sinful aurora]

Because crown is better tia?

[limber trout]

Doesn't matter?
Tia is still broken

She's SSS tier broken with naga

[sinful aurora]

Bunnies are also broken

[lean canyon]

Let's just say both deserve to be called SSS

[sinful aurora]

Why do you demote them?

[limber trout]

They aren't broken enough
Can't even push past 37 with them

[ocean sphinx]

[sinful aurora]

Cant relate

I play in blue

[lean canyon]

[limber trout]

Tia can do everything crown can achieve

Unless we start seeing 47% clears without Tia and with crown, she stays

[lean canyon]

Bunnies still useful for boss clears at 39-42% deficit, other than that

[sinful aurora]

I dont know about 40% bossing with bunnies

[limber trout]

Only boss I used them on was 18-33 because I genuinely had severe
And I mean
Severe
Skill issue

[sinful aurora]

Last i check, nihi is 35%

And it is one person only

[clever sand]

Bunnies are still better than doro team

[lean canyon]

Used them for ch27 boss

https://youtu.be/ivDJw9MmD7o

That should be 40~ deficit

[clever sand]

And sometimes in bosses like modernia SBS does better job bunnies than gals

[lean canyon]

But that's just a cheese for it

[sinful aurora]

Ah

It has a core

Nihi has a core in last 50s

2 my bad

[limber trout]

This is jokes

[lean canyon]

Cheese

That laser will otherwise obliterate anything it touches

[limber trout]

This is like my clear on Vulcan on momo accouny

Momo come back pls

[sinful aurora]

To be muted again?

[limber trout]

I used Ludmilla instead

[sinful aurora]

[limber trout]

Tbh
Zombie mode is very underrated

[placid elbow]

Sin campaign god on EN, perma AoE stun

[clever sand]

Go put bunnies in tier S-A people gonna be mad

[jovial quartz]

Imagine resorting to zombie mode on normal campaign

[clever sand]

[west moth]

I'm not looking forward to OLing Crown, but I'll have to do it at some point when I can afford it

[placid elbow]

I still remember this one:

[limber trout]

Crown is instant meta anyways now

Ggs to everyone else, the King has arrived

[lean canyon]

With the boss having 1 shots that penetrate barriers and shield it is the only way

[limber trout]

Well they aren't wrong

If blanc was 20s, Noir is A tier

[west moth]

I'm not too confident on her s2 atk damage buff uptime until I properly OL her, in case the boss actually allows me to not run a dedicated healer

[limber trout]

Blanc is busted

[jovial quartz]

Simply have more cp, ez

[lean canyon]

But seriously, I have been constantly getting the 2-3rd lowest clears on global so far, so I want to keep it that way

My CC clear was at the time of doing it #2

[jovial quartz]

are you purposefully ignoring your crates?

[lean canyon]

Nope

I started 5 months ago

[jovial quartz]

ah makes sense

last time I had to cheese was nihilister (skipping her second phase entirely). After that, it's smooth sailing

[clever sand]

Bro don't blame bunnies, remember they were our first meta comp

[reef field]

we had a meta comp pre bunnies

[high sandal]

liter + 4?

[clever sand]

🚮

[reef field]

it's always nikke + 4 isn't it

[scarlet cedar]

yea, that one required rapunzel. Man i wish i had rapunzel.

[limber trout]

Liter centi scar mod Maxwell/Rapunzel
Or

Liter centi Alice Maxwell Priv
True god comp^

[sinful aurora]

Well, when you see lozhac, just say loz pls

[limber trout]

The 1st comp was like bunnies

The 2nd comp was like Tia naga

[reef field]

i used noise a lot pre-nerf she was bonkers

[sinful aurora]

Which nerf?

Noise has like

[limber trout]

Campaign

[sinful aurora]

2 or 3 nerf

[jovial quartz]

noise burst nerf (s1 and s2 too?)

[limber trout]

Noise PvP nerf

[jovial quartz]

Noise reigns supreme before that

you simply lose if you dont have noise

[clever sand]

Well noise still a beast in pvp

[past cape]

Did anyone notice that crowns MG targets invisible enemies

Like the stupid burst inhibitors

That’s hella good

[elfin burrow]

I remember when Dolla was a desired Nikke

"she's like Liter but B2"

alas

[glacial fossil]

who said dolla is b2 liter?

what the hell

[slender tulip]

yo tistree

[glacial fossil]

yo wassup

[sinful aurora]

that was a long time ago

Dolla was the closest Liter

CDR, ATK buff

[clever sand]

It was gatrix I knew it, go blame him guys

[sinful aurora]

nah back then I didn't even understand this game

I was happy when I got first S rank Nikke

Ludmilla

[glacial fossil]

get this guy bois

[hoary adder]

god that meme won't ever die

[dapper sleet]

Y u call her king

Shes a queen

[clever sand]

She is the king

[limber trout]

Crown is a King

Not a Queen

[limber trout]

https://twitter.com/NIKKE_en/status/1781971427429912596

GODDESS OF VICTORY: NIKKE (@NIKKE_en) on X

【NIKKE PROFILE - Crown】

✅ Manufacturer: PILGRIM
✅ Affiliation: White Knight
✅ Weapon: MG: Your Majesty

One of the Pilgrims wandering the surface. To build a kingdom of her own, she believes herself to be royalty, and treats all Nikkes she meets as subjects.

If she takes…

Twitter · Apr 21, 2024, 9:01 AM

Watch the video

Hear what she says

[hoary adder]

ah crown is a dude

[clever sand]

Nope

[limber trout]

Huh

Don't u dare

She's saber 2.0

[clever sand]

Even in Jap she said king

[limber trout]

We already have saber 2.0 actually

Crown is saber 67.0

[dapper sleet]

King is male

Im not gay

[limber trout]

[clever sand]

Hahahaha that cat

[limber trout]

If you think liking baeber is gay
Then shirou is gay

[dapper sleet]

He is gay

[limber trout]

But

Baeber is hot tho

[placid elbow]

First femboy nikke confirmed

[clever sand]

No penis there

Sorry buddy

[placid elbow]

Shes got a lance tho

[limber trout]

Exactly
She's an exact replica of

[clever sand]

Is a machine gun actually

[limber trout]

This

[placid elbow]

Artoria lancer yea

Even the burst ani

[clever sand]

Well crown burst is asom

[reef field]

i dont think king is gendered as male only in many countries

[sharp delta]

is this our fgo collab at home?

[ripe furnace]

Wait. So based on pins crow is no good in pvp (bc of mg gun).

But wouldnt she work with Sannis if you can make the team burst in 2RL?

[agile beacon]

Just realized something. What happens with glass barriers when you use atk dmg?

Still 1 hp shots?

[agile beacon]

There are two issues with MGs. First issue is MG feeds Jackal, other issue is it lowers team burst gen a significant amount for the first few seconds. If you can still pull off 2RL, awesome, she is viable as long as you avoid attacking an enemy team that has Jackal

The problem isn't the unit's performance when they're allowed to burst. Liter's a good example. If she could get to burst, she'd still buff the team/carry

But using her has similar problems as using a MG, fewer bullets per second though

We will see plenty of PvPers using Crown simply because they don't have a better alternative, sure

Especially when we're talking about new commanders rerolling just to take advantage of the 1.5 anniversary freebies

They'll be in their own new arena group doing mass Crown vs Crown warfare

[sinful aurora]

at 2 RL, MG ~ Blanc

[agile beacon]

About this, @sinful aurora , if it's still reduced to 1 dmg, it implies that Atk Dmg and Dmg Taken are separate and multplies. If with Atk Dmg 20% your total dmg went up by 20% (let's call this final 120%), then enemy has 50% dmg taken debuff, you would now be doing a final 180%

The relevance here is XLud can debuff dmg taken, it's the only plausible combination that does it while keeping Crown bursting

[sinful aurora]

why do you reinvent the wheel?

ATK DMG and Dmg Taken belong to different groups

[agile beacon]

Just saw in passing today, RIP 5 minutes of my time

RIP your 5 minutes of time

[sinful aurora]

also the only neat part of dmg taken

it allows you to pierce glass

[agile beacon]

I'm curious, how good is XLud debuff? Let's ignore personal damage

[placid elbow]

I thought so too, but it turns out Crown just doesnt know what a queen is.

[sinful aurora]

12%

[agile beacon]

Yeah but would it - on single target - be as good as say... Privaty? Atk and Reload vs Dmg Taken

[sinful aurora]

hard to say

[agile beacon]

We don't have many non-burst B3 with support buffs

[sinful aurora]

without any buff

[agile beacon]

Drake's one, how about that?

[sinful aurora]

12% dmg debuff = 12% ATK up right

[agile beacon]

Oh

And if 100% atk buffs, then it's 24% atk up..

Okay yeah, XLud basically lost hard to real B3 supports

Maybe ties with Drake level support

[worthy coral]

[sinful aurora]

Don't treat Xlud as buffer

she's a DPS

[worthy coral]

So the feed chart is wrong?

[sinful aurora]

top tier DPS only has 5 ~ 6% diff

and Xlud increases her own by 12%

enough to clap a lot

[sinful aurora]

can't read

21, 27, da hel?

[worthy coral]

Bullets shot at 2rl and 3rl

[sinful aurora]

diesel 35

yeah it's wrong

should be 26

for Mod it's 52

[worthy coral]

So AR's feed in reality should be higher than that in the calculator right?

[sinful aurora]

AR is 22 but well

1 bullet diff

[worthy coral]

♿

[reef field]

liter / makima is even more drastic

does target swapping do this?

[ocean sphinx]

I remember my Moran and Blanc having diff amounts of ammo spent at any given time

[dapper sleet]

wat happened to @shy ingot

did he quit

[gentle sentinel]

Tbh I relied on his math calculations before snake took over

[dapper sleet]

relying on kisenix math is like eating raw chicken

[gentle sentinel]

Can't remember much since I wasn't as invested like yesterday

Since I did take some actual serious math notes

Using my brain power at my best

But yeah

[crystal edge]

Why do you think so? Does he not update his site anymore?

[dapper sleet]

normally he is here typing paragraphs of dark cooks

[reef field]

mad scientist from underground

we call him the undercook

[crystal edge]

Ah

So he is cool

Gotcha

[crystal edge]

I just thought austin had a hate for him

[crystal edge]

Mashle moment

[tall berry]

not marshle, its shokugeki no souma

those are the underground chefs

[crystal edge]

Dont remind me. I dont wanna remember how hard it flopped

[tall berry]

Les Cuisiniers Noirs

[crystal edge]

Creampuffs mashle -diff soma

[placid elbow]

maybe hes on lunch break

[dapper sleet]

Just make sure to call him baldsenix when u talk to him

[autumn beacon]

crown is probably too good of a unit, since his specialty is cooking up weird niche use cases which works better on midkes or worse

[dusky goblet]

Crown is a 1 copy pilgrim right?

Doesn't seem like she scales at all

[ocean sphinx]

S1 scales off her atk

[dusky goblet]

Yeah but she's a defender

Not like it's gonna increase much

[ocean sphinx]

According to gatrix, it's basically 2.6% extra atk buff for dps

For mlb

Here

[placid elbow]

is still 2% increase per dupe, and shes a good sub dps, more personal dmg than rem.

[tardy heart]

mlb pull for now and pray u get her when shes avaliable in pilgrim mold + ordinary and limited banner.

ez

[placid elbow]

simply just c7 her from the free event pulls

[limber trout]

[limber trout]

Idk why he cooks weird here and becomes 300iq during writing the review
Barely does anything wrong tbh

[limber trout]

Just need 11 pulls, the rest of the 10 pulls are for body labels

[true sluice]

@limber trout crown doesn't heal right

I'm lazy to check her kit out lol

[mortal quarry]

only herself and not enough

[dusky goblet]

What is the probability someone gets c7 from the 21 free pulls?

[placid elbow]

above 0% i think

[sharp delta]

he waited for testing

tasted the food then came out with the good ones

[ocean sphinx]

so low it just rounds to 0%

[light oyster]

do we know how much dmg crown does in comparison to other DPS or is it too early to tell?

[ocean sphinx]

you have a 0.005% chance at MLB or higher

[limber trout]

How many pulls for 50% chance for 1 copy

[ocean sphinx]

[limber trout]

69

Nice

Do I just do 69 pulls and then all singles

[jovial quartz]

Wait, what are you trying to do?

[hoary adder]

guy is going to commit gambler’s fallacy

[glad epoch]

[gentle sentinel]

Nice

[round forum]

Crown Outdamages Rem? Is it her native dps or just because how much damage she gives the party?

[soft loom]

native dps

because team have too many different factors, but in NIKKE, you can't go wrong with higher dps NIKKE, hence compare dmg is right.

[elfin burrow]

Rem basically just exists for RL B3 now

Laplace treasure might give her a solid team 5

[round forum]

weird. they have the same damage and rem has S1 buff.

[royal heath]

attack damage buff very strong

[limber trout]

You're adding Rem's self buffs for her damage

Now Add crown's self buffs to herself

Then add crown's reload speed into the equation

[round forum]

Ah its really the reload I forgot in my equation

thanks

[limber trout]

Wind up = big loss in dps

It's 2.5s per reload from KosMiu's calculations

If you reload 9 times
That's 21 seconds of not shooting

21s of not shooting = 1260 ammo not shot

[limber trout]

You reload 9 times if you have 3 ammo OL with bastion and no reload buffs

[round forum]

Because whil Crown is NEAR 100% uptime, in reality she wont be due to various factors.

Crown is 2.2412 vs 2.266 in my table

But you factor in reload then thats all that is needed

plus Crown is lower Attack %so she will benefit from other sources (if any) more than REM

[dapper sleet]

[round forum]

Honestly pretty scary when you consider how strong rem is as a DPS.

[agile beacon]

What’s an ideal comp for campaign if insisting on using Crown in it despite having all Nikkes?

[limber trout]

Remove midia

But well
Tia gets higher damage at start of the round than crown

B1 Crown/Tia b3 b3 Naga

[limber trout]

This is new campaign gaming

[agile beacon]

I’m surprised we’re still using Naga for heals and dmg buffing

No bursting on her, right? All Crown?

[limber trout]

Ye
The core damage buff is a ×1.45 DPS buff
She heals and cover heals

[agile beacon]

Hmm, D.Wife, Crown, B3, B3, Naga

[limber trout]

You change Naga to another DPS as well tbh but why miss out on the damage

Realistically all you need is 2 DPS for a stage

[hoary adder]

crown has +64% atk and then multiply it by 1.36. that’s already +120% atk effectively. similar to rem’s number and she applies to the whole team

[agile beacon]

If staying “Forever Scarlet Waifu” then SBS + Scarlet B3s

In reality it’s probably going to be Red Hood + Scarlet

Because I think I

Will need to spam SR shots to get burst gen

👀

[limber trout]

I think the possibility of crown being an extra dps prolly just diffs out Tia

[round forum]

Soon Laplace / Red Hood

:3

[limber trout]

Redhood as b3

[round forum]

Are you planning on making treasures threads?

[limber trout]

Dunno, depends on how good the skills are

Definitely not making one for frima

[round forum]

could make a general one to start

to report all findings

[royal heath]

could just stick to the nikke thread itself

[round forum]

Like

[Treasures] New System Megathread

[royal heath]

would mean needing to create ones for the base nikkes ofc

[round forum]

then you could keep like a pin ranking each treasure

[royal heath]

might be too much info dump eventually in 1 thread though since they should be adding more in the future

[limber trout]

I already have the pin ready

[hoary adder]

can you even do rh b3 if you also use her as b1

[limber trout]

Useful treasures:

• exia

Not useful treasures:

• diesel
• Laplace
• frima

[hoary adder]

1st burst: rh crown modernia/alice
2nd burst: rh crown rh

[round forum]

Laplace in Shambles

[royal heath]

no you can't do that

would be on CD for B3

[round forum]

yes, but only once per fight

[hoary adder]

ok I guess
rh crown mod
rh crown alice

[round forum]

When used in Step 1: Beast Cage

■ Affects all allies.

ATK ▲ 77.55% of caster's ATK for 10 sec.

■ Affects self.

Cooldown of Burst Skill ▼ 40 sec. Activates once per battle.

[royal heath]

RH would be so much more broken if she could do that

[elfin burrow]

Doesn't work, you can only rh/B2/RH for first cycle

RH/crown/rh or mod if 20s wait

RH/crown/Alice

[royal heath]

literally best B1 when FBing up to 2 times

[elfin burrow]

Yeah campaign is looking like either

D Wife/Crown/Naga/RH/Alice

Or

Crown/Naga/RH/Alice/Mod

Depending on how many burst cycles intended

Rip Tia

[royal heath]

it's fine she's still relevent outside of campaign

[grizzled tiger]

tia/rh/crown/naga/b3 would work as stall team ? 🤔

[royal heath]

stall for what

[elfin burrow]

Tia isn't adding much there is the issue

Crown already triggers Naga's core damage

[hoary adder]

stall because only 1 b3

[agile beacon]

Hmm D.Wife, Liter, Crown, Naga, RH. Not enough CDR for solo B3, right?

D.Wife, Liter, Volume, Crown, RH?

Madness

[hoary adder]

i don’t think dwife

[sinful aurora]

doable with 3 CDR

[hoary adder]

cdr is consistent for campaign

[sinful aurora]

will have some off cd

[elfin burrow]

Wait for us to get a second ammo halver to pair with Doro and Privaty for true CDR shenanigans

[hoary adder]

unless you have crazy cs lines and ammo

[quartz pond]

Dropping Naga isn't worth

[grizzled tiger]

you mean her additional attack damage would be too diluted ?

[royal heath]

again what are you even stalling

[quartz pond]

Crown does everything Tia does better except taunt

[royal heath]

why even that comp

[quartz pond]

Tia has no purpose in a comp with Crown

[elfin burrow]

There's other supports who can probably give better buffs than Tia with her single damage buff

[quartz pond]

Aside from meme value of triggering ATK buffs on four Nikkes

[hoary adder]

tia’s purpose is burst gen

[elfin burrow]

Alternatively can just take Modernia

[quartz pond]

RH gens burst fine

[grizzled tiger]

just guessing, there are some hard stages that you can let one mob alive so you can wait for cooldowns

[elfin burrow]

For slot 5 DPS

[sinful aurora]

Tia Crown Naga Red Hood Mod

[hoary adder]

hey T-keke, now that you’re here, how’s caster atk buff and %attack damage interaction with cp penalty compared to regular atk buff

[royal heath]

ok well like the others said tia is useless here then

[sinful aurora]

think

[royal heath]

better off with different support/buffer if you wanted to run that strat

[sinful aurora]

[elfin burrow]

The only reason I see for Tia is if you need RL to burst immediately after stage begins lol

[hoary adder]

no think, cpu dead

[sinful aurora]

that's free 32% dmg up

[royal heath]

even then RH does a decent job as long as you have 1 ammo OL

[sinful aurora]

why not?

32% Tia + 57% Crown = 89% dmg up

[elfin burrow]

But Tia could be Alice

Or Mod

[elfin burrow]

Depending on which you're sacrificing for her

[sinful aurora]

the best team for

SI

[elfin burrow]

Oh SI

[clever sand]

I love auto battle Rh in SI

[round forum]

Tia Liter Crown Naga Rem Rh Mod Sbs is my full team

[elfin burrow]

Tbh a boss battle where you send two squads and there's a button to swap which one you're currently viewing /controlling would go hard.

Especially if buffs aren't shared but debuffs (e.g. Novel, Blanc, Xlud) are

[sinful aurora]

even with penalty, 43% is 43%

[hoary adder]

kaka

[sinful aurora]

let's say, you have 100% ATK at blue
And 40% ATK at 60% penalty

43% makes it 83% ATK, so you gain 107% dmg up

[ocean sphinx]

at 40% penalty, would 50% atk buff be the same as 50% atk dmg up

[sinful aurora]

[hoary adder]

so the %atkdamage takes the base atk before penalty like regular atk buff?

[sinful aurora]

% ATK DMG is final dmg

[hoary adder]

ok thought it might be multiplicative with the penalty

[sinful aurora]

Penalty is, pretty much, ATK reduction debuff

which is compensated by ATK up

and that makes ATK incredibly powerful than anything else in Penalty mode

[ocean sphinx]

if theoretical 50% penalty for easy math purposes, and base dmg of 100 for simple math, would it be:
+50% Atk %: 100 x 1 = 100
+50% Atk Dmg: 100 x 0.5 x 1.5 = 75?

[sinful aurora]

yep

ATK up reduces the penalty, ATK dmg scales on penalty

hence ATK > ATK dmg

for solo raid, there's no penalty so ATK up will be weaker at some point

[hoary adder]

and where would caster's atk

fall

[hoary adder]

caster's attack gets reduced by penalty yea? so it's the mix between additive and multiplicative

[sinful aurora]

10000 and 6667
Both are reduced by 60%
So 4000 and 2667

2667 ~ 1716 ATK given to 4000

which is?

43%

[placid elbow]

I thought it had to do with
(Atk x atk buff %) - enemy def.

Whereas atk dmg multiplies after enemy defense calculation.

Penalty reduces your base atk before anything else

[sinful aurora]

enemy def is okay, you can also add it and changes nothing else

but penalty is here

ATK x (1 + % ATK buff - % ATK debuff - % Penalty) - Enemy Def

ATK dmg multiplies the final of above formula

it explains why Sunbather is stupid

-60% ATK debuff on top of -60% penalty = -120% ATK debuff

no wonder you deal 1 dmg

the ATK buff can be ATK roll too

so meta for campaign pushing lately is always ATK up then ammo

ATK up to compensate penalty, then ammo to dps

[hoary adder]

btw can I reset rem after the patch?
seems like it's gonna be tough slotting in rem in teams soon

[ocean sphinx]

might still have a t4 or t5 spot

ngl it's tempting to reset mine too

7/4/4, thank god no OL, and she's just.... there, providing meh dmg, still need to run a separate healer

[sinful aurora]

Crown deals more than Rem, buff more than Rem

[ocean sphinx]

I don't even have the dps to fill up 4 teams with 2 dps each

[sinful aurora]

and prettier too

[ocean sphinx]

rem arms still messed up

[sinful aurora]

outclass in every single aspect

[ocean sphinx]

oh and rem is harder to get than crown now

[sinful aurora]

and I will use Elegg on Biscuit Sanis team instead of Rem

[hoary adder]

the only chance rem has is if crown goes with doro

otherwise there's no slot

[sinful aurora]

that's why I tried to prevent you from over invested in Remid

her DPS on my sheet looks like shit

[ocean sphinx]

I remember when we were all drooling over rem before release, and shitting on emilia

[hoary adder]

1. jk + b1 cdr
2. bunnies + b1 cdr
3. doro + priv
4. b1 cdr + crown/rem
5. b1 + b2 cdr

[sinful aurora]

you can drop Rem to team 5

[hoary adder]

there's not enough b1 cdr

only 4

[sinful aurora]

2 B2

[hoary adder]

[ocean sphinx]

I run pepper dolla for my cope t5

[sinful aurora]

although my team 5 is Tove

[hoary adder]

[limber trout]

Why not push rem or crown to doro

Why run biscuit

[hoary adder]

if you slot in crown, are you sure there's enough sustain if the boss hurts without running a healer

[sinful aurora]

Biscuit Elegg Sanis should be better than Rem Sanis Scarlet

[placid elbow]

Cp penalty not in the same bracket as atk buff/debuff. It reduces your base stats before anything else happens.

Whats happening is that high penalty will drop your atk stat low enough, that enemy def will cuck you.

[sinful aurora]

I tested

it IS Attack Debuff

[limber trout]

Then demote rem team 4
Use crown in Doro Priv

[placid elbow]

If it was in debuff bracket, my doro brand dmg cap shouldve been 5.7 mil, not 4.3 mil.

[sinful aurora]

hmm

Alice non buff. 58.7% ATK reduction. Dmg per hit is 30k+

x3

with Red B1

or may be it's different with skill?

[placid elbow]

Defense

[sinful aurora]

https://arca.live/b/nikketgv/103701342?category=정보&p=2

check this thread to see full explanation and numbers

he calc defense too

around 29.773 of Rapture

[elfin burrow]

Rem can run team 3 unless boss deals significant damage can't she?

Isn't she effectively Marciana with less heals but decent dps outside RL teams?

[twin panther]

havent we established the bosses without "core" damage is a myth and not real

[placid elbow]

He also agrees with me here.

He says here -50% penalty reduces 10000 base atk to 5000. And that 100% atk buff is required to return to 10000 atk.

If penalty was same bracket as atk buff. Then you would only need a +50% atk buff to offset a -50% penalty

[sinful aurora]

no, it means he's questioning how it works. There are 2 theories

he needs to confirm either of it

[sinful aurora]

literally tested with 2B

it works like this for subtracting with 2B

not sure why about doro

[sinful aurora]

He meant ATK is minus by Penalty first then added by ATK buff.
Else there's no way to explain the triple dmg increased from just 77% ATK

it's because (1+0.77=0.58)/(1-0.58) ~ 3x times

[placid elbow]

Also hes got alice hitting fire weak mobs. Which is why hes got like unbuffed 30k auto vs rh's unbuffed 13.8k auto.

[sinful aurora]

also when you think of it, if penalty was in different group, why ATK up makes your 1 dmg becomes bigger?

100% atk up on 1 will be 2 you know

also this is alice dmg with B1, not 36k

but 91k

[limber trout]

Wdym by b1

[sinful aurora]

Red Hood B1

which gives 77% ATK

and Alice suddenly increased 3x more dmg

tap went from 30k to 91k

[limber trout]

What did you mean by this

[sinful aurora]

on the thread, Alice seems to have 93% ele (10% base + 83% ele roll)
even with 77% atk, her atk goes from 1.125 x 1.93 (2.17) to 1.895 x 1.93 = 3.65
The gain will be 3.65 / 2.17 = 68%

not 200%

[placid elbow]

Its because in his post the enemy has 29773 def.
His cp penalty is -58.70%

His 105545 base atk drops to 43590.085 due to penalty.

And then that 43k atk is subtracted by the 29k enemy def.

Atk buffs is inflated because it multiplies your atk stat b4 the enemy def calculation happens

[sinful aurora]

Doro Burst seems to scale differently

[sinful aurora]

valid, but I just pointed out the Alice gain, if using different penalty group, won't be increased by 3x times

[limber trout]

Didn't we already know that basic damage multipliers work like:

Base Damage = ( ( Character Basic Attack ) × ( Attack Power Buff Sum ) - Monster Defense Power ) × Weapon or Skill Multiplier

[sinful aurora]

we are arguing where Penalty belongs to

a different group

or mere - ATK

[limber trout]

From what you told me, its in

Base Damage = ( ( Character Basic Attack × CP Penalty ) × ( Attack Power Buff Sum ) - Monster Defense Power ) × Weapon or Skill Multiplier

[sinful aurora]

not, I told you it was

Basic attack - Penalty + ATK buff

not x, + and -

[limber trout]

Oh

[ocean sphinx]

[limber trout]

So it comes in "attack power buff sum"

= ( ( Character Basic Attack ) × ( Attack Power Buff Sum - CP Penalty ) - Monster Defense Power ) × Weapon or Skill Multiplier

[sinful aurora]

Doro burst seems to ignore defense. Shooting range has 100 def but this one is exactly 0 def

ignore the penalty, I was testing on nihilister

strange, Doro burst ATK scaling seems to be indeed, ATK x (1 + ATK buff) x (1 - Penalty)

[placid elbow]

Is cus penalty isnt the only thing cucking your dmg its also enemy def.
If you got 1000 atk and enemy def is 999. You do: 1000 - 999 = 1 dmg.

Cus atk buff is applied b4 def calc, using +50% for example u get: (1000 x 1.5) - 999 = 501 dmg.

If atk buff was applied after it wouldve been: (1000 - 999) x 1.5 = 1.5.

[sinful aurora]

just

explain that Alice

[placid elbow]

Is the same deal, dudes hitting enemy with like 29k def, but only has like 43k atk after cp penalty

[sinful aurora]

so with 77% ATK

his ATK becomes 76k

and you tell me 33k ATK gained on a base 43k will increase my dmg by 3 times?

[placid elbow]

Defense calculation.
43k - 29k = 14k atk effectively.

But the attack buff is multiplying with the 43k b4 it is subtracted by the 29k.

(43k x 1.77) - 29k = 47.11k

47.11k / 14k = 3.365

[sinful aurora]

oh

let me run some more tests

[limber trout]

You guys want a thread?

I wanted to get down to try and find out where rounding takes place too
In order to always have the correct final answer

[sinful aurora]

what's Lorax database of Rapture stats

[placid elbow]

Imma sleep, its like 4:30 am for me

[limber trout]

Yeah, we have it

Lemme ping u

[sinful aurora]

Yeah, it belongs to different group for sure

(Base ATK x (1 + Bonus ATK - ATK reduction) x (1 - % Penalty) - Def) x whatever

@limber trout @hoary adder

[limber trout]

So we are
Back to square 1?

[sinful aurora]

yeah

luckily I haven't tagged Anti to add it in the site

sometimes procastination has its advantage

[limber trout]

Comment on that Arca post

[limber trout]

I planned to add
Damage calculation

[sinful aurora]

I don't even understand KR

[limber trout]

But I want to know round off points

To get the perfect formula

[sinful aurora]

nah, I doubt Anti will approve it

[limber trout]

[limber trout]

Why

[sinful aurora]

last time the dmg tool on HSR was received heavily criticized

[limber trout]

Oh
We're not giving tool tho

Just an explanation on how it works

Yk
How I write 500 words explaining why this is good and why that is bad

[sinful aurora]

oh neat, Doro burst ignored Def

the real true dmg

[quartz pond]

Isn't that old info?

[sinful aurora]

I never tested thoroughly

so I don't have any impression

I only know it deals overrated dmg for lv 10 burst

keep it 4 and call it a day

[reef field]

adding doro to my reset list

[clever sand]

Midrothy

[hoary adder]

wdym

https://tenor.com/view/what-do-you-mean-hot-ones-jennifer-lawrence-hot-ones-gif-6061851644677030250

[sinful aurora]

let's say Doro with 12% ATK line. Diff between lv 4 and lv 10 is just 2m9 dmg per rotation

with 12 rotations, you lose 35m dmg

and saving 6 skills lv from 4 => 10 for a real DPS

who will make up that 35m lacking

now 35m seems to be big if you are competing in top 50

but at that case, you don't do economy investment like me

you just spend

[hoary adder]

where's the bad! sticker?

[hoary adder]

is it ornn?

[sinful aurora]

there's no bad

[hoary adder]

because ornn hates voli

[mortal quarry]

She's so close I can TASTE her socks

[clever sand]

I wanna touch her hair

[hoary adder]

[wooden raptor]

Imagine her hair gets dirty with smth

Would took more effort than a samoyed

[placid elbow]

The Arca guy was saying the same thing tho.

[limber trout]

yeah i always assumed this cuz

i think i once did this myself

on my shit ass calculator

the values were always like +-10

so i assumed i was correct

[sinful aurora]

[limber trout]

i never read up on gatrix stuff cuz i hadve exams

good

i still want to find round off points

will do after crown stuff is done

[placid jolt]

Just finished Tia's skills and OLs 😑

[jovial quartz]

Tia Naga is still excellent

just build your crown slowly again (till the next campaign meta comes in lol)

[languid wind]

What duo

[limber trout]

SSS tier

[limber trout]

This comment was made after careful consideration of new "stuff" that has come to light

[reef field]

i will slowly build crown to 10/10/10 4xol day 1

[boreal junco]

what new stuff?

[reef field]

alright snake that's enough of your horniness bro

[jovial quartz]

ignore the man, he got way too horny for his own good

[crystal edge]

The numbers made him go full horni

[reef field]

people in eden losing their shit over a naked skin

[dark dove]

time to pay a visit

[crystal edge]

Let them

Its the experience that counts

I guess

[reef field]

when all the mathematicians go horny you know it's real shit

[crystal edge]

Nah

[reef field]

yah

it's not that easy to make a naked skin like that interesting, it's just full on horni

[crystal edge]

Scientists so sheltered they are easy to bribe/bait

[reef field]

nah scientists make real money

bitches love money

[crystal edge]

Its literally modernia but white morning robe edition

Imagine paying 60$ for it

[reef field]

and more revealing

with more flashbang

i like my eyes, no thanks, Doro is enough

[crystal edge]

Doro gacha skin is actually good tho lol

Less barebones

[reef field]

i was refer to her burst, not the skin

her skin is peak gacha skin

fit the lore, fit the char design

[placid elbow]

yeah i'd say its her best skin atm

[crystal edge]

Her burst is barebones too

Its literally just censorship -> except the last part