[Crown] New Unit Megathread

[sharp delta]

Being able to force dodge target

And cheesing bosses with her cover

[dapper sleet]

what does it mean to sense them tho

[reef field]

does it say something understandable in jp?

[dapper sleet]

they pull in like 10m a month cant hire a decent tranlator for 50k a year

[reef field]

they had to pay queen b for the live stream performance

[sharp delta]

Small indie company

Please understand

Multi dollar income

[lean canyon]

「オートターゲティング不可能な敵を感知」

Says the same in JP

Detects non-autotargetable enemies

[wooden raptor]

@limber trout tldr i need test result now

[sharp delta]

Wat r u testing

[wooden raptor]

||Just kidding ||

[sharp delta]

[glad epoch]

||deez nuts||

[wooden raptor]

Stoopid lelo

[placid elbow]

They are cooking on JP twitter

[west moth]

It probably means she can attack the raptures that don't fight back on campaign, on auto

That's the only thing I thought of when I read that text

[autumn beacon]

I would actually expect doro burst to get the atk buff, just it won't start until the 2nd cycle

15s striking again

now I don't know offhand whether or not doro can reduce cd below 15s without priv (for team flexibility), but she has a chance at least

[ocean sphinx]

does crown even buff doro

I thought atk buffs don't work on doro

[reef field]

last into next cycle

then yes

[ocean sphinx]

ah so atk buffs need to be present when doro casts burst?

[reef field]

aye

[autumn beacon]

atk buffs work on her burst, just that doro snapshots on cast

and since she's a b1 and most buffs are either on burst or fb, she rarely gets em

stuff that's separate like timed atk buffs work if they're active when she bursts, but they're not as widespread as on-burst buffs

[reef field]

doro crown seems like a combo for a very easy total dmg increase in raids

[autumn beacon]

early on noir was an easy example of seeing her burst damage go up

[tame swift]

I liter, crown a good combo?

[reef field]

yes

liter anyone is always good

[tame swift]

Aight

[agile beacon]

Crown bug that will last 1.5 years, commanders named Gatrix can’t pull her

[pliant merlin]

RIP rem users

[gentle sentinel]

What do you mean?

[reef field]

he means rem from team 4 goes to team 5

if doro team stays intact

could very well happen that biscuit/marciana or w/e b2 doro uses is gone

[gentle sentinel]

Now that I think about it, I do feel like it would be conflicting on how it will work for rem since the liter and rem build worked in the Nihil SR, and will probably not be used in this one

[agile beacon]

I think he means Rem pullers should regret because Crown will supersede Rem, making it so that they should’ve not bothered with Rem in the first place

[reef field]

don't see it

[agile beacon]

I think it does mean commanders who went with Rem at MLB or less (including skipping) are the winners

[ocean sphinx]

[reef field]

if you wait long enough you will win by skipping crown

[ocean sphinx]

can't believe it

early on in collab, rem >>> emilia

[agile beacon]

Well, Rem lasted how long before this?

[ocean sphinx]

now it's reversed

[agile beacon]

1 month after Re: Zero ended?

I don’t think Crown will be compromised within about half a year

[reef field]

i don't see why rem from team 4 is gone next raid

[gentle sentinel]

Even though I got super lucky with getting rem to core 1 by less than 10 tries, but maybe my regret is getting her to 3 OLs

[reef field]

we don't get 2 crowns

[agile beacon]

Also… Rem is still useful, so we shouldn’t dismiss her offhand

MG, nice personal dps, heals RL, there’s bound to be a SR that makes good use of it

But people who poured rocks into Rem might be crying now

[gentle sentinel]

Since I will need to upgrade armor crown to at least 2-3 OLs

[agile beacon]

They want those rocks back for Crown

[reef field]

why are people saying

rem team 4 + crown = rem team 6?

i don't follow

[sharp delta]

im pretty sure im just going to go for 1-2 ammo rolls and ele and call it a day

also no regret on rem still

[gentle sentinel]

Same here

[sharp delta]

the more rl u put the less u heal the rest of ur team

[agile beacon]

I don’t think that was said, but let’s see… (no particular order)

Bunnies
Schoolgirls
Doro/Biscuit/S.Anis
Rem/RL
???/ToveSGs
Snow

Is this the current state?

[reef field]

i think tove was only used because water code

not cuz she's actually used

[agile beacon]

I mean in a rough sense. Some SRs mess with these big time, but generally right?

[gentle sentinel]

Wouldn't it still be marci for tove leona build?

Or is she out of the question as of late

[reef field]

i think we default to snowwhite

[agile beacon]

Marc can find a place where healing is needed, more focused on the 5 mainstream meta teams

[reef field]

if there are no code problems

[agile beacon]

Oh I forgot to list Snow White

So 5-6 meta teams for raiding

Only can use 5 but it’s basically about what proves effective for the specific SR

And it can vary from commander to commander, some have bad Snow handling

Or bad investments

And some skipped Tove

Looks like Rem will still have some breathing space after Crown shows up and joins

[reef field]

i'm not convinced tove is meta yet

still needs some work

[agile beacon]

e.g., if you hated Snow and don’t like Tove, there’s room for Rem

[reef field]

no

why do you assume rem is below tove

[agile beacon]

Or if you have them but the fight is bad for them, then there’s room for Rem

[reef field]

tove is out

[gentle sentinel]

I do have tove built enough for the build, but I still don't have SW

[reef field]

rem > sw > tove

maybe crown it will be sw > rem > tove

crown works with sw

[sharp delta]

sw has been kinda eh unless u get some good pierces or ele dmg

[reef field]

if we put crown with doro then no b2 moves except biscuit gone

but next sr is probably electric weak? so biscuit will def want to keep her sr spot

[sharp delta]

sr is always weak to w/e the unit coming out is

[reef field]

iron weakness goes crazy

[sharp delta]

any time u dont have water circle or electric circle

biscuit is in pain

tbh

[reef field]

rh stocks max stocks

[sharp delta]

always remember nihilister fire circles for biscuit team

[gentle sentinel]

Yep, the memorization

[reef field]

wasn't that water code?

[sharp delta]

no we used nihilister

[reef field]

priv

[sharp delta]

the nikke

to break fire circles

[reef field]

oh the fire one true

[sharp delta]

[reef field]

i got to use 2b again as a dps it was nice

[gentle sentinel]

Same. I had to experiment on my team 4 build and it got me to even more points

[reef field]

2024 starts off good

b1 powercreep b2 powercreep

[ocean sphinx]

incoming b3 powercreep with cinderella on anni

[agile beacon]

Nono, Cinderella is a B2 defender with better kit than Crown

[errant loom]

they just need to give her a team heal like blanc

[ocean sapphire]

nah she'll creep Summer Nikkes

[dapper sleet]

its

1. Tia Wife D Naga
2. Liter Blanc Noir
3. Doro Crown Priv?
4. Volume Rem
5. Miranda Dolla/S. Helm

still waiting on that b3 cdr healer for the tove/leona/m. priv team

[sleek anchor]

How’s she looking?

Or does she need testing before decision

[dapper sleet]

p much a must pull

[sleek anchor]

What bout mlb?

i have da funds but should it be done?

[dapper sleet]

if u have 800 pity sure

[sleek anchor]

but is it 100%

No doubt that chime would not be more worth?

[dapper sleet]

how can we know chime kit lol

obviously if chime kit has 100000000000000000% attack buff then its better than crown

but no way to know

[limber trout]

Who you need that 700% reload speed for tho

[dapper sleet]

[sleek anchor]

Looking at crown right now it seems like she’s really good on papaer

Will the stats change?

[limber trout]

Crown can carry a team better than rem I think

And crown's attack damage is additive with dorothy

So isn't that
Kinda
Bad

[dapper sleet]

everyones favorite unit

[limber trout]

You want as less dilution as possible no

[sleek anchor]

What team would i run

[limber trout]

MG?

[sleek anchor]

If i weree to run crown

[limber trout]

MG alrdy get

70% reload speed

Isn't that enough

[dapper sleet]

[limber trout]

Why you want 100

[dapper sleet]

i already dmed u

[limber trout]

Oh

[sleek anchor]

Would lit, nag crown alice rh be a viable team

[dapper sleet]

no

why split tia naga

[sleek anchor]

then what would i run

My current team is tia litter naga alice rh

I wann squeeze crown in there

Who do i replace

[dapper sleet]

are u talking about campaign?

[ocean sphinx]

are we even getting chime

[limber trout]

You can't
You'll have to run:
Liter crown b3 b3 b3

[ocean sphinx]

I thought she was just thrown in npc jail

[sleek anchor]

Ye

[dapper sleet]

campaign rn i run tia rh naga mod alice or tia liter naga mod rh

crown might replace either tia or naga but have to wait till she comes out to see if she can achieve the same big deficit clears

[limber trout]

The time has come

[ocean sphinx]

crown should definitely replace bunnies for casual pve

regardless if you wanna bring a healer on team or not

[vocal laurel]

6k comments here. Does that mean Crown is a must pull?

[ocean sphinx]

nah she's garbage, skip

[dapper sleet]

save for 2.5 anni

[vocal laurel]

Aight, bricking my account.

[ocean sphinx]

snake cookin' up a research paper

[vocal laurel]

Dude's been writing for ages haha

[dapper sleet]

[limber trout]

I RAN OUT THE WORD LIMIT

Fuck

[mortal quarry]

slap into AI to reduce your wordcount

[reef field]

big review inc

[limber trout]

Is she good? / Should you pull?

Yes. Pull. No questions asked. She's Meta. Please don't skip. Anniversary Nikkes are what people should aim to always pull.

Using Mileage on her is recommended, so maybe save your pulls if you're just aiming for 1 copy. I recommend 1 copy for f2p.
If you are a spender, I recommend pulling for dupes, since her Skill 1 is based on Caster's ATK buff. I think MLB should do perfectly fine for Crown. C7 for simps.

Why is Crown good?

Tldr: The best B2 offensive support hands down. Good job shiftup, balanced character unlike Red Hood. While Crown may not be the best of the best, she is definitely one of the best.

Crown is a damage buffer, and a DPS who can out damage Rem (lol). In a world where people are forced to run two units to get insane damage buffs, Crown will do it herself. Crown can be thought of as better than both duos when it comes to buffing, more info is as follows:

Stats for Nerds: Damage buff comparison

• Tia Naga = ×2.669
• Crown = ×2.248
• Blanc Noir = ×1.97 (ammo buffs considered as buff)

Notice again how Crown is alone. Crown comes closer to Tia Naga in final damage buffs if you factor in reload speed buffs and in fact, surpasses them!! So she is at the top if you factor in her own dps and reload speed buffs! As well as a possible 3rd dps!

The passives of healing are something Crown was not bestowed upon. So she WILL struggle in that department. However, Nikke is a game where offense matters more than defence. Hence, Crown is simply just better than others.
She is the best B2. There is no one better (unless Naga gets Tia as a pair).

She WILL be VERY GOOD for campaign AND raids (think SS/SSS tier), but may struggle in stages where healing is required. Which ofcourse, can easily be fixed if you add a healer in the flex spot:
B1cdr crown b3 b3 Healer
You probably won't even need that healer for raids lol
Sidenote: she is not good for PvP

All hail the King.
Long live the King 👑

[ocean sphinx]

hey she should at least be about A tier for pvp, where poli is

in a team where her shit burst gen isn't a big deal, she's basically 2 buffers

[limber trout]

MG
B tier

[reef field]

poli better

[limber trout]

Maybe C

[reef field]

mag shotgun > mg

[limber trout]

You don't need 5000% damage buffs in PvP
Poli buffs enuf

[mortal quarry]

With the amount of OLs people will pump into her
I suspect she'll do some fat dps too

[limber trout]

Both pretty mid tbh

But MG is like ×4 bad

[reef field]

yeah i don't use poli in pvp

[ocean sphinx]

cope example

wait nvm, won't even be that good for nukes

mainly for sustained dps

[errant pumice]

As I thought, Liter + Crown will be campaign meta. Just need 2 B3s (Likely Mod and RH), and a Flex for another DPS or Healer.

[glad epoch]

GOOD NOW FIX MY PVP TEAMS

ty for ur dedication as always snec

[limber trout]

Ask zixk in #pvp-arena-discussion

[errant pumice]

in terms of a tank, doesn't she also seem to outright deck Tia in terms of usefulness?

[limber trout]

Skill Recommendations:
4/4/4 -> 7/7/7 -> 10/10/10
Starting -> Minimum -> Recommended

[limber trout]

She can't sustain the team really
Unlike Tia Naga

[elfin burrow]

Sustain in terms of burst gen or tanking?

[limber trout]

Overload Recommendations:
3 ammo

Other substats:
4 ele
4 atk
1 ammo

I don't think she's a DPS, but if you want the full build, here it is

[elfin burrow]

Because in terms of damage crown Naga should out dps Tia naga

[limber trout]

She doesn't provide adequate protection to her team.
Even if your b3 can carry burst gen, you will struggle to live imo in campaign. So use healer in flex spot to cover that up, it's just bunnies 2.0 at that point, but better since bunnies WISH they were crown.

Crown has the same advantage of buffs carrying over to next wave
Which bunnies do not have

Cuz crown buffs the team
Bunnies debuff the enemy

So crown + healer is just better for campaign than bunnies

[limber trout]

I don't think crown is a DPS tho really

Dk

[elfin burrow]

There's a lot of campaign which boil down to "kill enemies before they fire", I'll definitely be trying Crown & Naga as a combo.

By outdps I mean buffs, since you'd get Crown& Naga core buffs

So team should outdps Tia & Naga buffs

[limber trout]

Crown and Naga won't work
As Frankyub has explained to me

I don't think it's a pair

I think crown is a standalone unit

But well
Crown + Naga can work in the sense that you get +125% core hit damage

[limber trout]

But you will not get the +30% attack damage from crown

It does work

I guess

[novel owl]

Who would be a good healer to pair with her for team survivability sake

[elfin burrow]

The Crown S2 should have ~50% uptime, but everything else should be reliable

[limber trout]

Yes, Naga is probably the ideal

Or Rapunzel

[novel owl]

Like would summer Mary be enough or

Ohhh

[limber trout]

That's too much

Too much heals

We don't need that much heals

[novel owl]

That’s scary tho imo cause for raids you would break up Tia naga

[limber trout]

No you won't

This is just a campaign thing

[novel owl]

Oooh

Ok

[errant pumice]

In raids you would just use Rapunzel imo

[limber trout]

Probably not

[gentle sentinel]

I was also wondering about that, but yeah

[limber trout]

I think crown is more likely to be self sustainable in raids

[placid elbow]

Crown is sub dps like rem i guess

[elfin burrow]

UR there might come a day it's worth running Crown/Naga instead of giving crown her own team.

SR will definitely always be two separate teams.

[limber trout]

No wey, rem is like +90% atk buff on an attacker MG

[novel owl]

Can’t wait for her to actually drop cause if she can carry team 4 or 5 alone or atleast with pepper or Mary it would help my team crisis in those slots

[limber trout]

Lemme just check it out, it's not that hard to calculate

[dapper sleet]

rapunzel gives full uptime on crown s2

the attack damage

[placid elbow]

Gatrix mentioned it too

[glad epoch]

bro, isn't she making a shield for 15 seconds with 10% final hp? and if she buffs herself for close to 5% for 20 stacks, isn't that basically a 20% hp shield? and then she heals herelf, and she's also invulnerable when she taunts, so why there is a need for a healer? in what situation

[dapper sleet]

@limber trout

[elfin burrow]

If making a team around Crown you likely want a healer to keep her S2 constantly buffing party damage

[limber trout]

Arkkkk

[glad epoch]

i don't understand why she needs a healer, tho? does she needs to be a specific hp to buff?

[elfin burrow]

S2 boosts party ATK for 7 seconds when healed.

Left alone she heals self every ~14 seconds for 50% uptime

[glad epoch]

ya

[elfin burrow]

It's about raising that to 100% uptime

[glad epoch]

how u do that doe

[ocean sphinx]

if your team doesn't take chip dmg, naga can trigger s2

default if team is full hp is p1, so just put crown there

as long as 1 or no nikke is less than max hp, naga heal should go to crown

[elfin burrow]

[ocean sphinx]

rapunzel raises it to 2 or less

[elfin burrow]

So you suggest....not giving Crown a chest piece?

[limber trout]

Except she won't heal crown cuz crown is defender with 6000 trillion hp

[elfin burrow]

She's defender so will have super high HP normally

[ocean sphinx]

max hp %

[dapper sleet]

wat are we debating right now

[elfin burrow]

5/-/5/5 Crown? Lol

[limber trout]

I'm checking how much dps crown does

[ocean sphinx]

when team is all max hp, naga should heal p1 and p2

it's not like blanc indom targeting

[limber trout]

The rest is just random talk

[dapper sleet]

are we talking about campaign?

[glad epoch]

bro u seem like a smart individual, i can't undestand even after people expalining to me why she needs a healer

am i cooked?

[elfin burrow]

Oh I thought Naga healed highest HP when all max

[dapper sleet]

campaign?

pvp?

[limber trout]

She doesn't have heals herself

Hence she needs healer when healing is required

[dapper sleet]

solo raid?

[elfin burrow]

She has one heal doesn't she? Every ~14 seconds?

[glad epoch]

she is shielding herself and also invulnerable and she has smol heal, so why

[limber trout]

How hard is that to understand you dum hoe

[glad epoch]

mfer who needs a shield

[limber trout]

Her taunt is every 15 seconds

[glad epoch]

and a heal

ya

and she is invulnerable for 5 sec

[limber trout]

By the time she taunts and heals herself you will have gotten ass fucked by 70 raptures

[glad epoch]

and then she has 20% hp shield ya?

cause she doubles her hp

with stacks?

[dapper sleet]

isnt it hp potency

[glad epoch]

yeah, but at the final she just gives herself a shield for 10% the final max hp, so 20% of her normal hp ye?

cause she stack 5% 20 times yeah? it's double hp ye?

[limber trout]

Bro read properly

Her shield is only 10%

It doesn't increase

Her skill 2 is heal POTENCY, which is that if crown is healed by x%, she will be healed by x+potency%

[ocean sphinx]

based on wording, her self heal happens when potency is already gone

[glad epoch]

bro i can't read properly

[ocean sphinx]

potency stacks get removed, then self heal happens

even if you get self heal during potency, it wouldn't really affect anything

[glad epoch]

okay so it just increase healing, not heals

[limber trout]

Healing is not equal to heal POTENCY

[limber trout]

Yes

[glad epoch]

okay

we getting somwhere

[dapper sleet]

they r gonna make indivilia do dmg every 15 seconds arent they

[glad epoch]

who makes this mechanics tho

[dapper sleet]

gotta sell the unit

[glad epoch]

bro put her ass in D tier then

[placid elbow]

Crown like attacker mg with +73% atk buff.

But she also got perma 74% rld spd, so never needs to wind up.

[glad epoch]

i thought the bitch double her hp but she is just a twat

[dapper sleet]

nah crown is SSS or high SS tier

for bossing

who cares about campaign/pvp

[glad epoch]

yeah ofc

i'm just jk but tbh

[dapper sleet]

best team comp for campaign is buying core dust

[glad epoch]

who translates this stuff? why it's always so complicated to understand what a skill does

am i cooked

@limber trout tell me bro, am I stupid

[gentle sentinel]

I've done enough reading comprehension to at least get an understanding to what the stats are trying to insinuate

[errant pumice]

If they didn't make it complicated we wouldn't have 6k posts here

silver lining

[limber trout]

You are cooked for now

[glad epoch]

i'm confusion af, even after people explaining it to me

[gentle sentinel]

So I can tell where the stat showcase and what Snake is explaining, is getting to

[glad epoch]

i guess i will just put her in a team and pray for shit to happen

i will ask snake how to use her :3

[limber trout]

×0.666 of ATK ×2.248 of final damage = 1.49

It seems like it's equivalent to 149% of damage of an attacker MG.

Rem = 90% of attacker MG damage

It seems like she's better

[ocean sphinx]

does doro need priv to have enough cdr to benefit from crown buffs

[glad epoch]

doro needs privaty anyway but why cdr

[limber trout]

By a lot

[limber trout]

Oh wait my bad

[limber trout]

This is just during burst

Time to pull up my very shit DoT calculator

[elfin burrow]

Hang on this is a good point though, won't Naga&Crown in slots 1&2 have constant uptime for Crown's S2, assuming you kill enemies before you get attacked?

[mortal quarry]

If Crown does more damage than Rem then I'll lol

[elfin burrow]

Since all team will tie for lowest %HP so defaults to position?

[limber trout]

I think

I think crown > rem for dps

[mortal quarry]

no shit?

[limber trout]

Fr

[glad epoch]

ong

[mortal quarry]

[placid elbow]

Unless it water weak boss i guess

[limber trout]

Yeah, ele is busted

[elfin burrow]

And iron gets yet another busted B2 lol

Iron such a strong element already

[limber trout]

Yeah I think crown > rem for dps

[glad epoch]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1203418330942275584.gif?size=96&quality=lossless

[gentle sentinel]

Yep, ele is better than atk

[ocean sphinx]

by how much

and does it require the same lvl of investment that rem does

[dapper sleet]

u sure u aint missin somethin here

[ocean sphinx]

[crisp atlas]

i am alive

[limber trout]

This is base damage from gatrix calculator

This is what happens if I give liter crown to any unit I can
Scarlet is higher cuz liter crown

Rem Vs Crown comparison is in Doro Priv comp

So yeah
Crown is higher dps

Than rem

[crisp atlas]

huh why is emilia on top

[limber trout]

It was

Nihilister settings for her

[lone notch]

who’s godlet

[limber trout]

Sbs

[placid elbow]

Sbs

[crisp atlas]

[lone notch]

she’s god?

[dapper sleet]

are u talking about crown vs rem in isolation for dps?

p sure rem wins lol

[crisp atlas]

isnt defender's base atk lower than a supporter?

[dapper sleet]

ya

[crisp atlas]

then how does crown win against someone who doubles their own attack

[placid elbow]

Def is like 0.67 of attacker
Supp is like 0.83 of attacker

[limber trout]

Yeah I'm sure

In Doro priv comp, crown > rem

[dapper sleet]

i thought it was 88% for sup

[crisp atlas]

more than doubles

[limber trout]

Base damage is higher for crown as well if she only depends on her own buffs

[dapper sleet]

i mean u shud be looking at them in isolation without other units

[limber trout]

That's what base damage is

[crisp atlas]

https://tenor.com/view/the-rock-surprised-hand-shakes-head-shocked-gif-24736992

[dapper sleet]

if u r trying to classify if one is a dps is or not

im getting that crown does 80% of the dps of rem

[crisp atlas]

people are throwing around wild numbers for crown lmao

[limber trout]

This is base damage

With no external buffs involved

One piercable part for everyone if applicable

[dapper sleet]

Crown: (1+.6451) * (1+.2099+.1025) = 2.410 * 66% = 1.607
Rem: (1+1.266) = 2.266 * 88% = 1.994

[ocean sphinx]

crown/doro/DPS/priv/healer?

[dapper sleet]

yea but once u add other units it becomes comparing apples to oranges

rem is stacked towards attack buff while crown is split on the two

[placid elbow]

Crown also got 74% rld spd she never needs to wind up. Rem still gotta windup

[dapper sleet]

good point

[limber trout]

Reload buffs apparently improve crown above rem?
I did add Doro priv to rem

[dapper sleet]

tldr pull crown

[limber trout]

But priv shouldn't be enough

Since crown is operating at 0 windup lost

[dapper sleet]

remgod team 4

[crisp atlas]

godcrown

[limber trout]

Apparently winding up is so bad that even partial windup causes insane DPS loss

[placid elbow]

Crowd

[dapper sleet]

also i thought supporter to attack conversion was 88%

is it 83%?

[limber trout]

26% damage loss

[limber trout]

It is

According to the

Stats I was given

[dapper sleet]

lemme find mf gatrix message

[limber trout]

By KR sheet

[dapper sleet]

he gaslighting me

[limber trout]

[placid elbow]

Just check ingame nikkepedia?

[dapper sleet]

true

too lazy to open up game

ill just use 83% going forward

[limber trout]

• 90318
• 60212
• 75265

100%
66.67%
83.33%

Attacker
Defender
Supporter

[dapper sleet]

gatrix gaslit me

i stg he told me .88

[limber trout]

Yeah Im pretty confident that

Crown > rem

In dps

[dapper sleet]

i mean its not close when u add in other units

crown has the better buffs

[limber trout]

True

[dapper sleet]

crown weakness will be when we get past this individlia SR and the SR boss after is constant chip damage

[limber trout]

Overload Recommendations:
2 ammo
4 ele
4 atk

[limber trout]

Don't think we need that 4th ammo

[placid elbow]

Wait hol up, 0.1025 is the halved uptime on s2 right? Then the 0.2099 should 0.3624 from her burst

[dapper sleet]

eh i think just settle with 3 max ammo

[formal raven]

Any team reccomendation?
Either it's Sanis team or RH team

[limber trout]

All hail the King

[dapper sleet]

.1025 is half uptime on s2 yes

[limber trout]

Wait for prydwen and nikke.gg guides ig

[crisp atlas]

2 ammo

[limber trout]

Otherwise it's like
B1cdr crown b3 b3 flex

[formal raven]

theoretically speaking that is

[dapper sleet]

2 ammo gonna feel ugly

if guillo priv is anything to go by

[limber trout]

Nah 2 is too tight timing
On my xLud I got 2

[gentle sentinel]

3 max ammo slots is good enough

[dapper sleet]

to be fair, you have base 74% reload speed without any max ammo

[limber trout]

Similar problem I'm assuming since reload buff when she bursts and then it expires soon after

[crisp atlas]

but she doesnt fully unwind when reloading

[limber trout]

Neither does xLud

[dapper sleet]

not planning to go out of my way to search for a 3rd max ammo if i get 2

[limber trout]

Wdym

I think it's similar situation to xLud

[dapper sleet]

2 max ammo might b fine actually

[crisp atlas]

crown's s1 can be treated as perma

where as xlud isnt

[limber trout]

It is

[crisp atlas]

so you'll have to micro reload xlud but not for crown

[gentle sentinel]

It should be fine if lucky to get blue slot or black slot

[crisp atlas]

[limber trout]

Oh
True

[glad epoch]

:3

[crisp atlas]

lmao i'll just roll for 2 ammo be done with her

her skill matters more than her personal dps anyways

[glad epoch]

the only true giga chad response

[limber trout]

Then ig tantan is right

I didn't realise that

[dapper sleet]

u can even get away with 1 max ammo but u just have to sweaty play

[limber trout]

Crown true King

[gentle sentinel]

Ok, 2 slots then 👍

[limber trout]

Not OL heavy

Rem dead

[dapper sleet]

😢

[crisp atlas]

[limber trout]

Powercreep after 1 banner

Is unreal

[lone notch]

doesn’t she need 3 ammos with at least 66% each

[glad epoch]

:3

[limber trout]

2 ammo is good with 50 each

[crisp atlas]

lol rem will be a better marciana

seeing how long marciana managed to stuck around

i think she's fine for another 3 months

[limber trout]

Tove god

[lone notch]

that’s assuming reload before full stacks?

[dapper sleet]

u basically need to shoot for at least 4-5 seconds after full burst ends

[limber trout]

Reload is active 100% of the time

So even if you run 0 ammo you technically are fine

[lone notch]

[dapper sleet]

ideally u never reload at 75% reload though, or you lose uptime on s2 attack damage

u only want to reload at 100% +

[lone notch]

I thought having 860 magazine is mandatory

[limber trout]

Hence the 2-3 ammo @lone notch

[dapper sleet]

i guess she locked with doro priv

[crisp atlas]

lmao why is this an emote

[limber trout]

Yeah but we don't have many MG nikkes with reload speed

Only 2
xLud and crown

And xLud needs 2-3 ammo
Crown needs 2 ammo

[lone notch]

where’s priv

[crisp atlas]

mg with reload speed

[lone notch]

dem

[mortal quarry]

still need some ammo lines even though she has no windup time?

[crisp atlas]

300 ammo on MG is very stinky

[dapper sleet]

if u have no ammo lines and u run with priv ull have 150 ammo coming out of fb

which is 2 secs of shooting

[lone notch]

she doesn’t need atk OL that much I suppose?

[crisp atlas]

good to have, not a must

[placid elbow]

She gains a bit more from it than rem.

[dapper sleet]

how much rocks come with the gacha costume

[placid elbow]

Like 2

[dapper sleet]

2 or 3

[crisp atlas]

2+2

[dapper sleet]

😢

[crisp atlas]

100 bucks for 4 rocks

💀

[dapper sleet]

💀

[placid elbow]

Just be lucky and get perfect roll on all pieces with 4 rocks

[crisp atlas]

https://tenor.com/view/kolow-gif-22856605

you're right

just land an atk ele ammo initial roll

and you'll be set for life

and do that 4 times

[lone notch]

spend another $60 for 3 rocks

[hoary adder]

https://tenor.com/view/gus-gusfring-gif-24463299

mfw you need good luck in a gacha game

[gentle sentinel]

Not gonna be easy

[placid elbow]

Or healer that can proc her s2.

[ocean sphinx]

btw

is no-burst marciana enough sustain for chip dmg

bc if team gets chip dmg so that rapunzel/pepper heals don't reach crown, marciana can still work

[limber trout]

It usually is

But why u need marci

She's for tove coin now

[ocean sphinx]

to trigger crown s2 reliably when team taking chip dmg

since that would likely mean rapunzel and pepper heals won't reach crown

[mortal quarry]

peppa can just burst once to fix that

[dapper sleet]

they shuda just made her taunt 15 seconds smh

[placid elbow]

Just run her alone. Then she has perma taunt.

[limber trout]

Erm
14.67 🤓

[sleek anchor]

How’s it looking?

[tacit bridge]

Will this be a unit new players should MLB or just pull 1 copy of

[sleek anchor]

1

Most likely

[lone notch]

I was heard that rapunzel is best partner to trigger s2

what’s that thing she won’t reach?

[limber trout]

Updated

[dapper sleet]

rapunzel only hits 3 lowest targets i think

[limber trout]

So this means
Crown > Tiga overall

[ocean sphinx]

if team takes enough chip, rapunzel heals will go elsewhere

[limber trout]

Cuz the team has a higher damage ceiling because of crown's own dps

[ocean sphinx]

[limber trout]

Team 1

[ocean sphinx]

is that liter crown 3DPS

[limber trout]

Yes

[ocean sphinx]

I assume crown healer is still lower dps

maybe crown naga has a chance?

[limber trout]

No

[ocean sphinx]

for campaign

[placid elbow]

In raids naw

[limber trout]

Crown healer should be higher ceiling

[ocean sphinx]

[limber trout]

Crown + 3 DPS >> tiga

[limber trout]

But only slightly

Crown is team 1

[crisp atlas]

crowns' missing her duo

[ocean sphinx]

would crown naga replace tia naga for campaign though

[crisp atlas]

chime when

[ocean sphinx]

bc healer + core dmg from naga

[limber trout]

It definitely can

[ocean sphinx]

now you have my attention

[reef field]

funny thing you could do both

[tacit bridge]

Ooo I haven't got Tia but I have Naga so that could be nice for campaign

[reef field]

tia + crown shield gallore

what's the interaction when you have a shield and another one activates

most powerful one? latest one?

[ocean sphinx]

single b3 would be the issue

[reef field]

tia liter crown b3 b3

[ocean sphinx]

still need a b2

wait

[reef field]

crown

[ocean sphinx]

me dumb

so basically tia over naga

hmm

[reef field]

it just happens to work both ways

[dapper sleet]

@limber trout do u know this

what if u stack two crown shields

[ocean sphinx]

atk dmg will get some dilution now though, while using naga means atk dmg as well, plus core

I think naga still better

[sleek anchor]

Would crown be better then the school duo got high deficit clears?

[copper shell]

could probalby test it with tia aria naga

[crisp atlas]

i think they just refresh

lmao

cant stack unless the game says so

[ocean sphinx]

[sleek anchor]

lmao

[ocean sphinx]

iirc ram and tia shields stacked

at least visually, forgot what happens if they get hit

[placid elbow]

Double layered protect from 1 shot attacks

[lone notch]

oh.. rapunzel heal reaches to the 3 left nikkes if all members are at full hp?

[placid elbow]

ye

from left to right in priority

[errant pumice]

So for Healer flex, Naga would work just fine?

[limber trout]

Yes

[limber trout]

What?

[limber trout]

Just additional shield
You can test using aria + tia

I don't remember if it gave you immunity against 2 one shots but there's no special effect

[placid elbow]

would have to test how crown 15s shields would stack with eachother

but im guessing itll just refill/refresh duration

[ocean sphinx]

tia crown vs naga crown

[limber trout]

Crown Naga is
×2.82 to ×3.25

[dapper sleet]

tia crown sits on tia burst for 7 seconds on 2nd burst

[limber trout]

• Crown Naga = ×2.82 to ×3.25
• Tia Naga = ×2.669
• Crown = ×2.248
• Blanc Noir = ×1.97 (ammo buffs considered as buff)

[dapper sleet]

if u running with rh b1

[dapper sleet]

where proof of 2.248

[limber trout]

Crown = ×1.[6451×0.666] ×1.5723 = ×2.248

No?

[ocean sphinx]

oh right forgot about cover repair

[dapper sleet]

wheres 1.5723 coming from

[placid elbow]

attack dmg

[limber trout]

Both attack damage added up

[dapper sleet]

but the s2 has half uptime?

[limber trout]

It procs every other full burst I think it's fine

[dapper sleet]

[limber trout]

I was comparing peak buffs

[dapper sleet]

incorrect math

[placid elbow]

aight just minus .10 lol

[limber trout]

I even put Naga as no crit no range

[dapper sleet]

thats like using yulha 90% attack buff

as the comparison

when its once every 30 seconds

[limber trout]

Except it isn't

For most full bursts it'll be up

[limber trout]

Also i can just

Wait

Let me

• Crown Naga = ×2.82 to ×3.25
• Tia Naga = ×2.669
• Crown = ×1.948 to ×2.248
• Blanc Noir = ×1.97 (ammo buffs considered as buff)

Here you go

Now Add Crown reload buffs in and her own dps

And she's better

[dapper sleet]

so why we even looking at crown naga campaign cheese

[limber trout]

Because crown Naga is higher damage buffs

Why else

[placid elbow]

crown also does dmg unlike tia

[limber trout]

And doesn't have the problem of "oh no my shield died so I will have to reset now"

[dapper sleet]

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

rh crown mod alice naga

[sinful aurora]

where

[limber trout]

Yeah
Kinda like that

[dapper sleet]

somewhere

i stg

[sinful aurora]

in your imagination

well in that case

make it 0.98

[dapper sleet]

i mean this one is prob just better cuz

[limber trout]

All messages with gatrix 88

[dapper sleet]

most ppl if pulling correctly shud have higher cores on crown than tia

[limber trout]

Tia has been out for

8 months

[dapper sleet]

why my tia core 3 then

[limber trout]

Luck issue

Even my Tia is mlb as f2p

[dapper sleet]

im f2p too

[gentle sentinel]

I'm also f2p

[placid elbow]

he just makes donations to shiftup, so still f2p

[novel radish]

Luck issue indeed i only got 1 copy of Tia.

I shouldve pulled more on her banner.

[limber trout]

Both Tiga are MLB for me

Noir is mlb too I think only blanc is left

[novel radish]

Bro I have no luck when it comes to them. Tiga.

Im a "Small spender" too.

[limber trout]

They don't really need dupes to work so it's fine

[lone notch]

my tia is core max meaning I should do da same to crown?

[limber trout]

Anyways this thread is solved now

Someone tell me how kilo works

Is kilo really based on max HP and shield doesn't matter?

[gentle sentinel]

Phew, that was the most serious math that I've invested in

[novel radish]

I'll probably push Crown to core 5. Did a core 7 RH and ive gotten 2 copies of her since her banner passed. Feels pretty shitty seeing dupes go to waste.

[limber trout]

C4/5 is safe bet

Anything above mlb is a waste anyways

[gentle sentinel]

I've actually taken a lot of serious notes on this. I feel like my brain just burned more calories

[limber trout]

Unless you're competitive

[mortal quarry]

a defender without any specific selfish buffs doing more personal dps than rem
is beyond me

[placid elbow]

Wouldnt it be like 2.10x from the halved s2 uptime?

For solo crown

[limber trout]

Input it as no S2 uptime

[placid elbow]

Oh

[limber trout]

It's either full or none right?

Why confuse yourself

[agile beacon]

I leave for a day and I come back to find Crown kidnapped Naga from Tia?

[placid elbow]

Average uptime

[gentle sentinel]

A sudden turn of events

[agile beacon]

Okay not really, seems like it’s a bit forced

But Naga does bring some cover repair so not entirely unwarranted

Still, just Liter + Crown it

[sinful aurora]

• Tia Naga = 1.32 x 3.2524 x 1.3933
• Crown = 1.4322 x 1.5723 x2 (because core hit exists above)

On first look, Tia Naga > Crown, that's true. Now if we calculate Reload into uptime

• Uptime = Shooting time / (Shooting time + Reload time + Cover time)

Let's say, Alice with 20 ammo. She has 5s shooting because I don't want to be banned. Her new reload will be 2 x 0.5565 = 1.11.

• Old uptime = 5/(5+2+0.36) = 67.9%
• New uptime = 5/(5+1.11 +0.36) = 77.3%
• Dmg gain = 13.8%
  => Final Crown on Alice = 1.4322 x 1.5723 x 1.138 x 2

[agile beacon]

Also pretty sure Liter + Crown still offers better damage than Naga in the first 5 seconds of full burst, right?

[sinful aurora]

do this, but this time using MG

and you can skip 2.33s wind up too

[limber trout]

Yeah I understand that

But I didn't know how to put it in numbers

[limber trout]

So crown is higher anyways if reloading is taken into consideration

Crown is true team 1

Tiga team 2

[mortal quarry]

from mid to team 1 in the span of two days

not bad eh

[elfin burrow]

All about those numbers

[limber trout]

She was never mid

[elfin burrow]

Before the numbers came out she was looking like team 3/4

Now she's team 1

I guess it's about what we're calling mid

[placid elbow]

shes from the mid year anni tho

[gentle sentinel]

She was mid because the stat showcase was not fully shown compared to what we usually analyze

Until now

[elfin burrow]

Letting us build up gold mileage with Collab 2% banner before half Anni eats it all was nice of SU

[sinful aurora]

anyway, during that B3 own burst

Crown alone should be > Tia + Naga

[limber trout]

• Dorothy was the definition of team 2
• redhood.
• scarlet may not be top top DPS, but she increased the bar of low deficit from like 20% to 33% cuz shes just that good. Surely the best low deficit unit.
• crown is the best buffer

All pilgrim banners were bangers

Oh yeah
Modernia

She redefined campaign meta

[crisp atlas]

[sinful aurora]

SBS

define what

Dololo too

[placid elbow]

oh i mean as in the joke shes from mid/.5/half anni

lol

[limber trout]

Low deficit campaign

[limber trout]

oh

[sinful aurora]

for MG uptime, it depends on ammo, of course.

• Base: 300, reload 2.5s. Uptime is about 49.07%
• With cube reload and Crown, uptime becomes 83.21%. Or 69.58% gain

a 1000 ammowhich is 16.67s shooting will only gain 23.65%

also, you need 414% ammo up to match 44.53% reload buff of Crown

and 414% ammo is impossible

hm actually not really, you can use Bastion here, so you only need 259% Ammo up from OL

which is almost perfect 4 OL lines

[cyan hinge]

Tldr: The best B2 offensive support hands down. Good job shiftup, balanced character unlike Red Hood. While Crown may not be the best of the best, she is definitely one of the best.

Crown is a damage buffer, and a DPS who can out damage Rem (lol). In a world where people are forced to run two units to get insane damage buffs, Crown will do it herself.
While still worse than the JK duo, Crown + Healer > Bunnies easily.

fix this if crown is better

[gentle sentinel]

So theoretically, it would be all 4 max ammo black slots

[elfin burrow]

To be clear, if we're running Crown & Resilience.... Is max ammo useless? Or still worth aiming for?

[sinful aurora]

let's just say

a MG who normally wants 4 lines ammo

now only wants 1 line

ammo is still okay, but you don't have to sweat for 4 lines ammo anymore

[placid elbow]

going from base ammo to 1000 gave crown a 13.31% increase in dmg/uptime according to his charts

[sinful aurora]

should be 23.65% dmg increased

oh nvm, 76.26% / 49.07% ~ 55.4%

[placid elbow]

for the cover animation, its shorter when you manual right?

[sinful aurora]

yeah, up to 0.233s

hm or not

0.36s aka 22 frames

nvm, if you control that MG, it's 0.2s

12 frames

AI will add 10 frames delay for nothing

[quartz pond]

So primary focus Element, secondary ATK, tertiary Ammo

[sinful aurora]

go 1 ~ 2 ammo for comfortable buffing first

then you can go ATK/ELE

she's a buffer before DPS

[quartz pond]

Ah, so just Ammo 3-4 are more optional

[clever sand]

Ok 2 ammo 2 ele

[limber trout]

Fixed

[lean canyon]

MLB it is

[lament orbit]

How dead is Diesel then?

[ocean sphinx]

was she ever alive

[elfin burrow]

Diesel has been dead for over a year lol

Let her go

[crisp atlas]

man still fresh off harvester raid

[ocean sapphire]

peak era

[lean canyon]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/268805894828064768/1113318827447570582/1685494183937439.gif

[ocean sphinx]

how much buffing is a LB0 crown compared to MLB crown, both at their bond caps

in terms of S1 atk% buff for an attacker

[sinful aurora]

much

[zealous holly]

I've always wondered, when it comes to stuff like that doesn't it only begin to matter much much much later down the line in terms of levels? Like a 20% stat boost at MCB for a level 50 unit with like 10k atk before dupes isnt nearly as much of a raw value increase as say a lvl500 unit with 100k atk before dupes. Is there a certain level where the dupes are generally considered a "significantly noticable" increase? Or does it not really matter that much with idle game mechanics in mind of eventually you'll just get higher level so get dupes now and benefit later?

[sinful aurora]

we can also use your example

10k atk with 20% stat boost = 2k = 20% ATK more = 20% dmg increased (assuming no more of ATK)

100k atk with 20% stat boost = 20k = 20% ATK more =

yeah

20% dmg increased

[zealous holly]

Natrually, but i meant moreso when it comes to stuff thats based on casters x for buffing others.

[sinful aurora]

so let's put another dummy unit

an Attacker!

it has 14.9k ATK
a 2k ATK will increase 13.4% dmg of that attacker

now at lv 500

149k ATK

a 20k ATK will increase?

yeah you know the drill, 13.4% dmg of that attacker

[zealous holly]

I see, fair enough xD

[sinful aurora]

the stats in this game stay in a ratio, so at any level, they always remain in that ratio

BUT

there are 2 factors that remain in fixed number

Gear stats and Bond stats

that's why at early levels, you will find yourself passing wall easily with just a few lv of gears upgrading

or bond increasing

but then, at one point, those gear stats become irrelevant

lv 5 x 4 OL base stat = 20% base stat of lv 400

and = 3% of lv 600

[ocean sphinx]

How much stat is MLB again

[sinful aurora]

and = 0.01% of lv 1000

it stays in %

[ocean sphinx]

Compared to lb0

[sinful aurora]

just simplify it into 2% per dupe

MCB > base 20%

each dupe = 2%

averagely

[ocean sphinx]

So 6%?

[sinful aurora]

some will say, 6.04% or something, I won't remember it

to me, 6%

it's simple

[ocean sphinx]

How much diff do bond lvls make at like around 250 sync

Is it noticable

[sinful aurora]

lv 40 bond = 2340 ATK

lv 250 = 33667 ATK

[ocean sphinx]

For defender?

[sinful aurora]

attacker

Defender is 22445 and 1560

[ocean sphinx]

What about lvl 40 bond and lvl 10 for defender

[zealous holly]

So is there actually not much point in bonding past 10 other than the gems in the long run?

[sinful aurora]

oops

1560 is lv 40

lv 10 is 269

[ocean sphinx]

Hmm

[sinful aurora]

in the long run?
Let's say lv 400 of Solo Raid

ATK of Defender: 60212

so lv 40 = 2.5%

[zealous holly]

So worth like a dupe and a half lol

[sinful aurora]

a dupe and 1/4

[zealous holly]

Sorry 3am brain

I have work at 6 help me

[sinful aurora]

now if we use Keripo lv

[ocean sphinx]

So MLB crown buffs like 8.5% more?

[sinful aurora]

which is 700

[zealous holly]

[sinful aurora]

it's 238466

that lv 40 is like 0.6%

[sinful aurora]

MLB scales on bond stat

it's 6% x (base + bond + research etc)

6.15%

at lv 700, it's

[ocean sphinx]

So 8.65%?

[sinful aurora]

it's not

8.65%

[ocean sphinx]

[sinful aurora]

isolate the damn dupe

stop including bond stat

they are not dupe

bond is bond

[zealous holly]

Dealing with tweedledee and tweedledumb here, my condolences

[sinful aurora]

you can say MLB stat vs base non = 8.65%

[ocean sphinx]

Dupe increases bond cap

[sinful aurora]

but each dupe is only 2.05%

[zealous holly]

Me understand now, ty for clarification. I mainly got confused due to see stuff like defenders lower base atk affecting the benefit of casters atk buff when changing the values of the dupes for the buffer vs the one being buffed. Like in Sky's vids when he shows the "effective atk buff" if ur casters atk buffing defender is 0* vs core 7 attacker vs the opposite way around of core 7 buffer giving it to lb0 attacker

Too many numbers for my monki brain

[ocean sphinx]

What would this be then

[sinful aurora]

much

[ocean sphinx]

5-10%?

[sinful aurora]

Lb0 Crown to Lb 0 Attacker
lb 0 Crown to Max core Attacker
MCB Crown to Lb 0 Attacker
MCB Crown to MCB Attacker

do you see how many variations your question has?

[ocean sphinx]

Both to lb0 attacker

[sinful aurora]

43% ~ 51.6%

[clever sand]

So MLB crown 0 bond = lb0 crown bond 40?

Nah just joking

[sinful aurora]

you'd better be

[ocean sphinx]

First num is lb0 crown, second is MLB?

[clever sand]

[sinful aurora]

2nd is max core

MLB is only 45.6%

[zealous holly]

We gunna make gatrix commit ded to our next 5 generations with these questions

[sinful aurora]

you give 2.6% ATK extra

[ocean sphinx]

So smol difference

[sinful aurora]

for 3 copies

[clever sand]

Lvl 0 Lvl 5 overload pieces change a lot or nah?

The pieces with atk stats

Gloves, helmet and armor

[sinful aurora]

depend on lv

lv 200 they are huge

lv 400 they are okay

lv 600 you can run nake and nothing change

lv 1000 you don't use gear

[clever sand]

Ok interesting

[sinful aurora]

that's also meta of PVP

lv 1000 will rely on OL

[clever sand]

Lvl 10000 play auto

[sinful aurora]

who has better options, win

gear means 0 now

putting Viper lv 1000 nake of full gear doesn't change anything in Rosanna's sac strat

if she dies, she dies

[clever sand]

Ok lvl 5 is ok for solo raid

nice to know it

[zealous holly]

So basically eventually cp walls in campaign become mearly a level check for the most part rather than raw gear. And the OL substats are the remaining damage carry part yeah?

[sinful aurora]

yep

may be chap 36 hard

where lv 700 whales find themselves hard to get pass even with lv 5 gears

[zealous holly]

Does it become more and more about having a good dps with proper counter element with x4 elemental damage?

[sinful aurora]

that's indeed

that's how they designed Destiny Childs

we had to build 5 elements DPS there

with 4 supporters to support that DPS

so total 25 chars for just bossing

then there's world boss which requires 20 char and ele check too

so 50 in total since you can re use some chars

then PVP is 45

[zealous holly]

Kinda lame that it just devolves to that but at least f2ps wont see the cracks in the mask for like 3 years i guess

Idk what pure f2p are at lvl wise if theyve been doing everything in the game daily since launch tbh

[sinful aurora]

I mean it's idle game

the scaling is infinity

it's the base design of this genre

so either you build your ele

or idle faster

may be lv 379 I think?

I'm lv 378 and I don't buy any core packs

just buy skins cuz they are pretty

[zealous holly]

Based

[worthy coral]

Soon nikke will require multiple teams to beat a campaign stage
Just like every afk games
♿

[sinful aurora]

it's already been

Tia Naga + Red + 2 flex DPS based on situations

[clever sand]

Whale

[quartz pond]

Similarly, while I spend, I don't buy core dust

I'm 370

[sinful aurora]

because Nikke can't decide its identity

[clever sand]

Imagine buy core packs, 5 dollars per day

[sinful aurora]

that's why lv sync in this game is very weird

[quartz pond]

Level doesn't seem that meaningful for current content

[sinful aurora]

on one hand, you use lv to crush PVP, campaign, towers, UR

but on the other hand, Solo Raid, Co Op

[clever sand]

Lvl is important in PvP

[sinful aurora]

it's like, a mixing between MOBA and P2W model

[quartz pond]

My shard is dead, so towers are free

[clever sand]

everyone in top 6 PvP buy the whole event shop

[sinful aurora]

do it

[quartz pond]

I'm Challenger 3 currently and beating people 30 levels higher than me with strategy alone

[sinful aurora]

lv is one thing

[clever sand]

I'm challenger 1

[sinful aurora]

my op only has 13 lv than me with 80k cp more

[clever sand]

for almost 6 months

[sinful aurora]

fight looks like this

[zealous holly]

Honestly thats kinda why i found the most fun in games that let you hit funny idle game numbers of damage values due to overly high base stats being boosted by fixed %s from gear, but arent using idle game systems to balance. Like having a set in stone level and such

[sinful aurora]

1 dmg

[quartz pond]

The person I'm stuck with for Challenger 1 is the type who will spend 10,000 gems in one day to beat you

Learned not to touch him

[crystal edge]

Oh, like genshin or brown dust 2 then?

[zealous holly]

More like kings raid before it died where ur dps can deal like 1b+ dps on a world boss

[crystal edge]

Lmao

That kinda damage huh

I prefer millions instead