[Crown] New Unit Megathread

[shy ingot]

?

No

[glad epoch]

swap tia with crown when pushing campaign, still using naga then? My campain pushing is :Tia Redhood Naga the drunk lady Modernia

[shy ingot]

Swap Naga

[quartz pond]

Based on JP wording, she won't take any damage

It's like Noah's burst

[elfin burrow]

Swap Naga????

No swap Tia.

You need Naga's core damage buffs, which Crown burst will activate. Naga's burst is a minor loss.

[clever sand]

Rem comp p5

[elfin burrow]

She's only invulnerable 1/3 of the time

[reef field]

tia crown naga rh alice

ez

[quartz pond]

Hm? Not Maxwell? Shouldn't Alice go with SBS?

[reef field]

i was joking

[clever sand]

Gals Rh, crown Alice sbs

[shy ingot]

Idk that feels dumb

[quartz pond]

Ah

[glad epoch]

:3

[quartz pond]

Crown with SW/Yulha seems more potent

Leave Elegg/Rem for SBS

[reef field]

you could actually make a team like this

crown red hood b3 b3 b3

[elfin burrow]

It's basically about maximising damage buffs.

Core damage is why JK push so far in campaign, and it doesn't get diluted by Crown either. So you can just run Crown with Naga and get best of both worlds.

[shy ingot]

Crown with Yulha is waste of dmg

Yulha is alr out

Unused

[quartz pond]

That would make me happy to hear

I hate using Yulha

[elfin burrow]

Yulwha, Novel, and Nihilister gonna be the three most reset Nikke I think

[clever sand]

Go back sleep snake buddy

[quartz pond]

People invested in Nihilister?

[reef field]

nihilister was good for pvp burst gen

but other options now

[clever sand]

No meta players

[elfin burrow]

Wow pilgrim tower pushing

I think mine is 6/6/6 maybe lol

[quartz pond]

You don't need skill investment for PvP burst gen

[shy ingot]

Miranda Crown SW Maxwell SHelm is much better

[elfin burrow]

I like heretics

[vagrant root]

No Shelm L

[zenith zephyr]

so. i heard crown's really good 👀

on paper

[quartz pond]

She's good for sure

[reef field]

in practice too

[glad epoch]

i did for pvp reasons but very little

[zenith zephyr]

how good?

[reef field]

best b2 in the game good

[vagrant root]

I fail to understand in what pink glassed world...

[quartz pond]

Better than bunnies

[zenith zephyr]

damn

[placid elbow]

Best iron mg in the game

[rough haven]

What does s2 hp potency do? Does it affect that singular heal that consumes the 20 stacks?

[elfin burrow]

On paper she can:

• replace Tia for more damage buffs
• or run her own separate team with equivalent damage buffs to JK

She's broken as fuck

[quartz pond]

Effects all healing until she consumes the 20 stacks

[shy ingot]

She is B2 dude

[quartz pond]

If she's at 10 stacks, she's getting +40% healing

[rough haven]

So that last heal of hers is boosted by the 20 stacks?

Because it only procs at 20 stacks

[quartz pond]

Then hits 20, heals for effectively 9% of HP and becomes invincible

[elfin burrow]

Last heal isn't boosted, since it comes after removing the stacks lol

[rough haven]

I see

[placid elbow]

I think hes asking id it heals 1st b4 consuming stack at 20

[zenith zephyr]

i don't understand her second skill tho. can someone explain?

[rough haven]

So…when does the hp potency affect any of her heals? That’s her only heal

[quartz pond]

Heals to her

[rough haven]

Or does it affect only heals that she receives from outside sources?

[quartz pond]

If you put her in team with Marciana, her lifesteal will be stronger

[rough haven]

I see

If you’re running pilgrim tower and don’t have Rapunzel, the 20 stacks are useless?

[elfin burrow]

• every 15 seconds she taunts and goes invulnerable for 5 seconds, and heals herself
• if she's healed by herself or allies she buffs team's damage for 7 seconds

That's the TLDR

[shy ingot]

Jokes on you

[quartz pond]

Though I assume it'll stick at the number of stacks she had when the lifesteal was applied

[shy ingot]

Runs Tove Crown PrivM Mod Marciana

[quartz pond]

Not sure if the HP potency disappears pre-heal or post-heal actually

I'd hope the heal uses it

I'll leave that to the detailed numbers people to figure out

[zenith zephyr]

so it's better to a run a healer with her. she doesn't heal the team herself

[quartz pond]

Correct

if needed

[elfin burrow]

No, but she does heal herself every 15 seconds / taunt

[neon jackal]

I was unsure if try to MLB her but she sounds like crazy good, though I wanted to save some for Summer units

[limber trout]

@glad epoch tell union to pull crown or leave union

[shy ingot]

Dont MLB her

[quartz pond]

If you're F2P, dupes still won't provide enough strength to warrant the cost

[elfin burrow]

I'd say throw your gold mileage at her and save gems for summer

1% is......

[rough haven]

That doesn’t seem too significant a heal if she’s trying to sustain herself

[limber trout]

Mlb her if you love her

[limber trout]

The more dupes the better

[placid elbow]

Mlb is essential for lobby wallpaper

[quartz pond]

Her taunt is only active while she's invincible

[elfin burrow]

The heal is mainly to proc her own damage buff tbh

[tardy heart]

Novel:

[limber trout]

Crown is the best support ingame after liter and redhood

[neon jackal]

I mean I have to MLB to break the 160 wall though doing it with a Pilgrim is going the hard way right? HAHAHAHA

[quartz pond]

so unless you're fighting a boss that targets highest hp, Crown's not taking damage anyway

[rough haven]

Dunno about that. I might need to mileage shelm and sanis, and they are only 0.5% each potentially. 1% crown is the better one to roll for if that’s the case

[slender tulip]

can i join once i have her?

[elfin burrow]

Unironically I think she might be better than Liter.

Mainly because she provides so much damage buffs vs utility compared to Liter, and so much of the game is DPS check

[quartz pond]

One copy and pray for spooks later is what I'd recommend for F2P unless you're very into competing for high raid ranking

[limber trout]

If one of them doesn't pull
Sure ig, just wake up in first 4 hours of UR

[limber trout]

No cdr = stop your copium

[quartz pond]

Ehhh, cover repair and CDR are hard to top

[slender tulip]

[limber trout]

Cover repair L when you have shield

[elfin burrow]

Just run her with one of many good B1 CDR lol

[quartz pond]

Shield that works for one attack

[elfin burrow]

Liter, D wife

[limber trout]

That makes no sense
I'm comparing standalone kits

[glad epoch]

you can join now, I can kick snake and u take his place

[limber trout]

Lelo Im serious
She's good
They need to pull her

[quartz pond]

Fight Nihilister with only Tia and watch your team burn to death

[glad epoch]

What team u would use her

[quartz pond]

That Naga cover repair is what's keeping the team alive

[shy ingot]

She is either in Doro team or shes alone

[glad epoch]

yeah okay i will make announcment

[limber trout]

I'll tell later I still need to sleep
Friends came over so I couldn't sleep

[glad epoch]

ok, camel rider, enjoy ur sleep

[elfin burrow]

Liter does 3 jobs:

• CDR
• Dps buff
• cover repair

Crown does 3 jobs:

• DPS buff
• taunt
• DPS buff

This is my "game is DPS check so Crown is better" argument

[glad epoch]

[fallow rune]

@elfin burrow I am a dolphin so I don’t mind spending a little if it is worth

[shy ingot]

I want to specifically mention Doro for 2 things

• S2 qtk Dmg can buff her burst

[quartz pond]

Liter helps a bit with ammo utility, as well

[shy ingot]

• doro deals dmg

[limber trout]

That taunt is so ass lol
It's genuinely just meaningless almost
So stop that copium for now

Liter is better, end of discussion

[quartz pond]

Also, taunt is every 14 seconds

[elfin burrow]

Hahahaha sure I gotta sleep too anyway

[quartz pond]

assuming no reload

[limber trout]

Also
It is amazing how you underrated cdr

[quartz pond]

3 second taunt every 14 seconds

[neon jackal]

My real doubt is how to proceed with her, the most realistic case as I am F2P/low spender is to just get one copy of her but I dont know if:

1. Try my luck with all the resources they are gonna give us for the 1.5 Anni and later keep pulling if I havent got her
2. Milleage her (Though I only have 149 so I would still need to pull 51 pulls)

[rough haven]

Isn’t it 5s?

[quartz pond]

Pretty much Diesel taunt

Is it 5?

[quartz pond]

Indeed it is

That's a bit better

So it's Diesel with level 10 S2

but invincible

[neon jackal]

Would you recommend me to basically use the pulls they are giving us to reach Milleage and if I get her on there save Milleage if not just use Milleage on her?

[fallow rune]

I am still working on Team 3 for solo raid

But idk what to do ugh

I am a bit cucked since I don’t have SAnis

[quartz pond]

Probably just use Scarlet?

[rough haven]

It’s 66.67% better

[shy ingot]

Doro Crown SAnis X X

[fallow rune]

I did just get Scarlet

[shy ingot]

Is probably the team

[quartz pond]

Scarlet, especially if you don't have Max Ammo rolls yet, gets along well with Privaty

[fallow rune]

I’d rather focus on Crown then REM currently since Crown I can fit with others

[quartz pond]

Back in the old days, we ran Scarlet with Admi and Privaty

[glad epoch]

how many gems u have?

[quartz pond]

Admi now:

[quartz pond]

What are your goals for playing Nikke?

[neon jackal]

For the moment being I have 27k and 149 Gold Milleage

[quartz pond]

Gotta establish that before deciding how to use resources

[reef field]

that's a guarrantee 1 copy

[neon jackal]

I am advancing quite fast on campaing, and I am also planning to buy the 10k gems from the Campaing (Ch11-15) package

[glad epoch]

so u will have around 200~ pulls and u can ticket her once with golden mileage.. iirc we get 86 free pull.

[glad epoch]

you can copium on getting her 3 stars with this yeah

[neon jackal]

I would't even need to use gems if we take into consideration the rewards they are giving now?

[glad epoch]

nah, it's 1% banner

it's harder than usual, harder to hit the dupes

[quartz pond]

I think the meaning is use the vouchers to build mileage

then use mileage

[reef field]

27k gems = 90 pull = 90 gold mileage, together with 149 you current have it will be enough

[quartz pond]

rather than gems

[reef field]

yeah that's what i meant

[quartz pond]

Event gives a lot of pulls that aren't gems

so gems can be conserved

[glad epoch]

if he gets that juicy pulls, 2 from all his tickets :3

hard to 3 star a pilgrim like that tho, but achieavable ngl

[quartz pond]

Unless you want to push hard in solo raid, I'd say wait on using mileage until near the end of the banner

[fallow rune]

Isn’t it pretty worth rolling pilgrim banners since you have a better chance at pulling other pilgrims too or is that dumb logic?

[quartz pond]

Those 21 free banner pulls work of a lot of people

[quartz pond]

No rate up for other pilgrims

Common misconception

[neon jackal]

I see thanks for the advices guys

[glad epoch]

it's not, it's true that u have better % pilgrim in comparison..

[fallow rune]

Okay

[glad epoch]

yeah that's it, it's the same

but it's better cause of the other %

[fallow rune]

Someone told me that before but figured to ask for clarification. Thank you

[neon jackal]

But the 21 free pulls doesnt count for Milleage no? The other 50 something does

[reef field]

10 from minigame, 5 from stream, 10 from 50k viewer, 10 from login, 10 from shop, 21 from daily pull. Total 61 pulls those are your advance pulls

[glad epoch]

ye

[quartz pond]

It doesn't, but if you get Crown from the 21 pulls, you're home free

Just save for summer

[reef field]

yeah, JUST get her from the free pull

only 11 pulls to mcb right ?

[quartz pond]

If you can't get her by the near end of the event with those, then consider using vouchers until mileage

[neon jackal]

Not gonna lie if I get her withing the 21 pulls I might go crazy and try my luck HAHAHA

[shy ingot]

Where are the chefs

[quartz pond]

But if you care about solo raid, you'll need to get her early

[glad epoch]

Just dump everything into the banner and not regret a thing

[reef field]

i wouldn't recommend go for more than 1 copy, just save resource for other banners. You're new player and getting key unit is more important than dupe

[glad epoch]

i have a core 05 redhood and i have 0 gem, am i regretting now: yes, will i do it again: also yes

[neon jackal]

Not a problem for me right now, I am only 2 weeks into the game, still learning and no need to rush difficult content I think

[shy ingot]

Btw look at her basicc attack

[quartz pond]

Yeah, then pray for those 21 daily rolls to do their magic

[shy ingot]

Senses enemies rhat cannot be targeted

[glad epoch]

she's a psychic

[neon jackal]

You are 100% right on that one, that's quite the thing on almost every gacha so I will probably do as you said ^^

[sinful aurora]

depend

some gachas love locking power behind dupes

[glad epoch]

if u play for 2 weeks just dump everything into her banner, game will give u gems :3

[sinful aurora]

so C6

E6

something something

[quartz pond]

Definitely don't try to get MLB for 160 wall on a Pilgrim

[neon jackal]

gotcha will take it into consideration ^^

[glad epoch]

[shy ingot]

Runs Doro Crown SAnis PrivM Leona

[glad epoch]

say no to hoarding 🙂

[reef field]

SG 🤮

[glad epoch]

live banner by banner like me 🙂

[neon jackal]

I thought at first that pulling everything as soon as possible might work but I prefer to stay on the safer side to not use my wallet too much

[slender tulip]

?????

[quartz pond]

Pulling Day 1 is a dangerous practice one should never adopt unless one practices the Way of the Whale™️

[glad epoch]

thing is, if u are 2 weeks in, you have so many places that u will get gems (tribe tower, advise, lost sector, ex stages, completion etc)

[limber trout]

Leave him
He needs to stop drowning in copium for a bit

[quartz pond]

Let the whales and content creators pull, study the characters, then after figuring out how they are, decide to pull or not

You'll see a lot of testing and such here once she's out

[limber trout]

Ew
Imagine waiting THAT LONG

Just wait for trust the process pin in this channel

[glad epoch]

spend everything day 1 :3

[quartz pond]

I'll be getting MCB and going 10/10/10 on her Day 1 probably

[glad epoch]

gamba addict

[quartz pond]

so I can help with testing

[slender tulip]

[limber trout]

Everything the maids pin is
Correct

Nothing is wrong

They all just copy from here in my books anyways

[sharp delta]

wym u need to wait for testing surely

[glad epoch]

i'm gonna do this testing myself

reeee

[sharp delta]

imagine calculating bullet dmg to the exact digit

and having firerate

test it

[neon jackal]

Hmm you might be right but this game (eventhough gem income might not be bad) is quite expensive 60k for sparking once, also the monetization of this game is quite crazy except for some packages (monthly gems, batlle passes and Campaing packs).

I came from Priconne which is my Main game and things are much more F2P on there so I will be cautious about pulling so much for a single unit

Also I had a bad experience already with Emilia @glad epoch
I had to pull 90 times in order to get her but I got not a single SSR in the process so basically 1 SSR on 90 pulls, was pretty hard to experience HAHAHA

[sharp delta]

i hope crown talks to lewdmilla in story

[glad epoch]

yeah, i'm not defending this game cause it's more expensive than others, but later u have most units cause u can get all of them from ordinary banner(except limited ones)

[sharp delta]

so they can buttheads about being queen

[limber trout]

Nikke is

Definitely one of the cheapest gachas

[glad epoch]

it was the same for me 1 year and a half ago...

[quartz pond]

Ludmilla is depicted in the event promo, so

Decent chance

[glad epoch]

hmm, for me yeah cause i know what i like to buy

[quartz pond]

Nikke's raw gem packages are expensive

[glad epoch]

but tbh when it launched i remember spending 500$ first motnh

[neon jackal]

Better than Genshin for sure HAHAHAHA

[fleet mortar]

30к+ gems and 28 vouchers for only 1 Dwife

[quartz pond]

But a lot of the bundles are good

[glad epoch]

campaign pack is worth, every pass is worth, pulls+skin

everytime the 20$ pack is worth for pulling

[sharp delta]

i think it will be a funny bit

[glad epoch]

monthly is worth

[neon jackal]

That's harsh lmao, hope the game treated you well since then

[quartz pond]

Though the bundles are a slippery slope

Easy to spend more than you think you are

[reef field]

in my opinion nikke as f2p is so generous over time that spending nothing is actually worth it

[quartz pond]

S Anis banner + NieR collab did more damage to my savings than I'd anticipated

Though I like the game, so I don't mind spending

[glad epoch]

so i pulled with all my gems and tickets at Emilia and Rem banner, skipped bay and I have 15k gems and 30 advanced tickets, so u will stack those when u skip banners

[neon jackal]

I am planning on going for that one wach month honestly, appart from that I spent 20$ on ReZero battle pass to get a fitting skin of Rem (to Nikke) and another 20$ for the Campaing pack

[fleet mortar]

game have me from Sanis banner. my actual rate 3% for pulling 1 SSR.

[glad epoch]

that is more than enough

[neon jackal]

Will try to skip some, though I am quite a big fan of Nikke desings in general

[quartz pond]

Almost all NIkkes go into wishlist

[neon jackal]

I couldnt resist pulling on Bay, gladly it only took me 30 pulls

[quartz pond]

Unlike a certain company starting with H (previously M), we don't have exclusively limited banners

[glad epoch]

@neon jackal that's the difference with other games, u can wish for that unit in normal banner

so for example bay is advanced recruit now, after next patch she is in normal banner, u wishlist her and u get her later

[quartz pond]

LIke my policy is to put three multis into every banner

[glad epoch]

if a character is meta and what not, i will try to pull for it

[quartz pond]

Didn't manage to get Bay, but not sweating it

She'll probably spook me during summer banners

[glad epoch]

i skipped biscuit banner

and i have her

core 06

[quartz pond]

even though I hate not having all Nikkes now

[glad epoch]

)

molds exists, ordinary banner

tower molds etc

[quartz pond]

Yeah, I got Dorothy to Core 2 during her banner, and she's Core 4 now. Got Red Hood to 2/3 during her banner, and now she's Core 5

Never know how things will go

[glad epoch]

yeah

[sharp delta]

im very tempted to lb3 crown

[glad epoch]

even if poor af, I would still get a meta defining unit, and stack gems and what not later

[sharp delta]

not because i think its a good idea but i want that burst animation

[quartz pond]

Definitely don't dump too much into Crown banner as a beginner

[glad epoch]

that's my philosophy

[sharp delta]

[neon jackal]

Oh yh that's something pretty good to Nikke, is pretty amazing to get a lot of units though I still dont know what it's recommended to do, once you get passed the 160 wall, should I put those characters I want on wishlist and go for 1 copy each or go for MLB on good units first?

[dapper sleet]

[gentle sentinel]

Same tbh

[quartz pond]

Getting lobby animations you want is always a good idea

[glad epoch]

[reef field]

if you're f2p / budget player fucking just mileage 1x and move on

[quartz pond]

I spend 200 gold mileage on Anne this past winter for hers

[reef field]

you won't do fuck all better with more dupes

[quartz pond]

Dupes are a F2P trap

[gentle sentinel]

If anything goes wrong when I gamble, I do have enough for gold mileage

[glad epoch]

after u are done with 160 wall, just get meta units or charas that u want to have(don't have) in ur wishlist

[quartz pond]

Only get if you want lobby background

[glad epoch]

I spent mileage to get rem dupes 🙂

cause i forgot half anni exists

opinions??

[quartz pond]

Well collabs don't come back (as far as we know currently)

[glad epoch]

true

[neon jackal]

I see ^^

[quartz pond]

so more worthwhile than other banners at least

[glad epoch]

don't be afraid to make mistakes tho

u can't fuck up anything that bad in this game tbh

[quartz pond]

Crown will always be in the pool

just hard to get

[neon jackal]

I think a good rule to follow as F2P would be only go for MLB on collab banners if your really want the background, if not go for 1 copy as it will later go to standard banner

[quartz pond]

The sad reality of Pilgrims tho

[glad epoch]

really depends on ur economy tbh, but if it's not meta or really strong unit, I won't rush to pull for that unit

[quartz pond]

is that with each Pilgrim release, it gets even harder to get a particular one

[glad epoch]

Bay=cute waifu but no pull, i stack gems

[glad epoch]

my last pilgrim mold was noah, my previous mold was Ether :3

[neon jackal]

That's true, pool gets bigger and not wishlist on Pilgrims

[glad epoch]

i got snow white after 5000 pulls

[neon jackal]

I dont think they will ever add that right?

[reef field]

go watch background on youtube or something

[glad epoch]

never yeah

[neon jackal]

5k? How much have you spent on the game lmao

[neon jackal]

Doesnt feel tha same

[reef field]

it's just burst animation

i can watch it while playing

[neon jackal]

Most gacha gamers even if F2P wont go to youtube and look for something they dont have @reef field

[quartz pond]

After Crown banner, individual Pilgrim rate will go from .05% to .045%

[glad epoch]

not much, u will get there too

[placid elbow]

Atk dmg buff doesnt affect doro brand tho.

[rigid plover]

Unless the unit applies buffs based on their own stats, like Rem

Or in this case also, Crown

Crown less so because her kit is already good and she's defender so atk up isn't super high, but it can matter for other units

[glad epoch]

what's ur roster like anyway?

[quartz pond]

But it doesn't matter enough unless you're someone competing for top 50

[ocean sphinx]

I knew it @sinful aurora

[rigid plover]

Rip

[quartz pond]

MLB with good OL rolls will smash a MCB unit with bad OL rolls

[rigid plover]

It's why I put "can" in italics

[glad epoch]

real

[sinful aurora]

it is

[quartz pond]

My Mod and SBS are 1/3 and I still manage top 200

My rolls aren't even that great, either

[reef field]

show ol

[quartz pond]

Though my going for MCB on Crown is purely for waifu value

[glad epoch]

her pose is....idk I want to see her gacha skin....

I want to see her pose in gacha skin

[quartz pond]

SBS

[glad epoch]

he showed u OL, u happy now?

[clever sand]

Oh I see I see

[reef field]

all i'm thinking is how handicapped his acc is cuz he's in an actual competitive region

[slender tulip]

https://tenor.com/view/bing-chi-ling-alex-mei-bing-chi-ling-alex-gif-21908053

[reef field]

i'm global

free raids

[quartz pond]

Nah, I'm NA

Just play in Japanese

[reef field]

oh nice

[glad epoch]

I never managed 1% in global so ...

[rigid plover]

They're okay

[quartz pond]

cuz EN localization is terribad

[hasty gyro]

I mean those SBS rolls could be worse

[ocean sphinx]

is that a 25% taunt/invuln uptime

[quartz pond]

They could be worse, but they aren't good

[glad epoch]

[ocean sphinx]

takes about 15 sec to stack, lasts 5 sec, assuming you can't stack until it's over

[scarlet spade]

The "previously cast burst skill" means it only affects burst 1 only or anyone who has finished bursting?
Like
b1>b2>b3 = first run burst 1 got buff
b1>b2>2nd b3 = everyone got buff on burst? Or still don't know yet?

[quartz pond]

Should be 14s to stack

[rigid plover]

Couple lines of charge speed, some ele, and one crit damage

[quartz pond]

860/60 is 14.3

[placid elbow]

It activates on fbm

[rigid plover]

One is a max ammo roll right?

[scarlet spade]

Fbm? Full burst what?

[ocean sphinx]

so she has close to half uptime on that S2 atk dmg even without a healer?

[quartz pond]

Say you have Liter → Centi → Scarlet burst

[rigid plover]

If my short studies in japanese is translating everything right in my head

[quartz pond]

The S1 activates at full burst and applies the ATK and reload buff to Liter, Centi, and Scarlet

Crown and the other Nikke get DEF buff and reload

[ocean sphinx]

"Senses enemies that cannot be auto-targeted" what does this mean

[scarlet spade]

So like, if we want others to get atk buff we must play her as off burst unit??

[quartz pond]

ATK x2
Charge Speed x3
DEF x1
Crit Dam x1
Max Ammo x1

[quartz pond]

My assumption is that she shoots the annoying enemies the other AIs won't

[neon jackal]

It something like this

[rigid plover]

Right for most of them

At least those classes I took years ago are helping somewhat

[ocean sphinx]

like those exploding guys that stun or suck in other enemies?

[quartz pond]

The stun bomb units, the silencer minions, the flying disable units, and the SUCC units

[ocean sphinx]

ah

[quartz pond]

But only a guess

[ocean sphinx]

interesting gimmick

[quartz pond]

inb4 there are invisible raptures in Ch 29 and 30

Have to hit them to break their camouflage

Only Crown can see them

[placid elbow]

I guess, but which b2 would even be worth using over her?

[quartz pond]

Her burst is extremely powerful

Better to give Crown the ATK buff so that team gets the 30% attack damage buff

than to skip Crown burst

Especially with how few DPS B2s we even have

[scarlet spade]

So her s1 profit Dorothy the most then?

[quartz pond]

Rem, Guilty... Rupee?

[quartz pond]

It profits B3s the most

[scarlet spade]

What 😭

[quartz pond]

She gives a buff to the B1, B2, and B3 that use their burst skills

Dorothy's main damage is her burst, which wouldn't receive the ATK buff

[ocean sphinx]

is it now viable to run crown + rapu

[quartz pond]

Unfortunately Rapu isn't likely to heal Crown

[ocean sphinx]

ah

hmm

[scarlet spade]

Ohhh yeah i get it now

[quartz pond]

Her S2 also has 7 second duration, so we don't need extremely consistent heals

[scarlet spade]

Was misunderstood it

[quartz pond]

Technically if timing worked out right, Soda could allow 100% uptime

[scarlet spade]

Thought it says buff anyone who use burst before her lol

[quartz pond]

iirc her healing is every 12 seconds?

[quartz pond]

Not before her

[ocean sphinx]

shouldn't it be every 20 or so

[quartz pond]

Anyone who used burst before skill activation

[scarlet spade]

It buff anyone who use burst before full burst right

[quartz pond]

Skill activation is on full burst

[ocean sphinx]

14-15 to stack, 5 sec duration where you can't stack

[scarlet spade]

"thought"

[quartz pond]

And full burst is after B3

[clever sand]

[scarlet spade]

What the actual fuck

[sinful aurora]

wait until Kisenix cooked you something

[clever sand]

Im summoning cthulu

[quartz pond]

Whether Crown bursts or not doesn't affect her S1

[ocean sphinx]

how much does the caster's atk for s1 fck things up

[scarlet spade]

I understood that now

[ocean sphinx]

how much is it if translated to regular atk%

[quartz pond]

Just makes her buff look larger than it is

[scarlet spade]

Read all my text pls😭

[quartz pond]

Like if you look at Liter's 66% and think that Crown provides as much, you're being fooled

[sinful aurora]

she provides

[placid elbow]

Like 43% for atkers

[sinful aurora]

more

[quartz pond]

but hers lasts 3x as long

[sinful aurora]

because 43% over 15s > 66% over 5s

[quartz pond]

Yup

[ocean sphinx]

shield is just a paper think shield right? same scaling as tia

[sinful aurora]

also it's actually 43% with 100% uptime

against 66% with 33% uptime

[scarlet spade]

Why is everyone ignoring this

[quartz pond]

I just mean that if you look at the damage numbers while the buffs are active

Liter will provide higher numbers

But yeah, over the course of 15s, Crown wins for sure

[dapper sleet]

Shud be a bit stronger since most ppl have tia burst at 4 whereas here u want it at 10

[quartz pond]

and that's ignoring the 36% attack damage bonus

[slender tulip]

nothing there

[dapper sleet]

Ugh i did not want to core 7 another unit

[quartz pond]

Them making her buffs 15s long was so evil

[sinful aurora]

C7 or not

it doesn't matter

[quartz pond]

With proper burst gen and cdr, that's 100% uptime

[sinful aurora]

10/10/10 matters

[quartz pond]

We don't know scaling yet

[dapper sleet]

I got 101010

[sinful aurora]

then it's okay

she's a buffer

not your DPS

at max, being Midlet

[ocean sphinx]

isn't it more like 50% uptime for regular b3 attackers

[sinful aurora]

funny when we have a B2 Defender whose job is buffing

[ocean sphinx]

maybe higher since 15 sec duration

but they can't burst every time

[sinful aurora]

and casually dealing Midlet dmg

[sinful aurora]

for B3, it's 50%

[shy ingot]

She only works with SW theoretically, Maxwell, and SAnis, and maybe Alice.

[quartz pond]

For any 40s burst it's 50%

[sinful aurora]

10s FB + 5s burst gen
then 10s next 10 FB + 5s burst gen
=> 15s uptime 15s downtime

kinda like A2

[shy ingot]

SBS RH have too much atk but it's still usable

[sinful aurora]

still need lv 10 to have the exact reload + cube Lv 7 to skip wind up

[crisp atlas]

look at all these nerds

[quartz pond]

She works with any B3

[crisp atlas]

[sinful aurora]

explain to me in Kilo2B

[quartz pond]

Take B3

Apply Crown

[ocean sphinx]

how long does it take for s2 in pvp?

[quartz pond]

damage increases

???

profit

[sinful aurora]

long

[crisp atlas]

mg unit in pvp

[sinful aurora]

may be 30 RL

[quartz pond]

S2 with no reloads should take 14s

[sinful aurora]

in PVP tho

[quartz pond]

Does fire rate change in PvP?

[placid elbow]

In pvp its 30fps

[sinful aurora]

it's a wild west there

[quartz pond]

Ohhhh

So 28s

Useless

[sinful aurora]

MG from very starts, shoot 102 ammo at 4 RL

assuming 1000 Ammo

[crisp atlas]

lets talk about pvp when champ arena is released

[sinful aurora]

then she will stack S2 at 31 32 RL

[ocean sphinx]

hey, she looking like a better poli (except lower gen) in pvp

[crisp atlas]

poli

[onyx lynx]

do y'all think crown will replace priv in the doro/sanis team?
doro, rem, sanis, scar, crown

[quartz pond]

Nope

Reload speed doesn't matter

[crisp atlas]

you guys are really scaping bottom of the barrel over there

[quartz pond]

Crown doesn't half ammo size

That's what Doro needs

[onyx lynx]

ah the reload buffs

yeah

[shy ingot]

Scar + Crown have atk diluted but idk

[crisp atlas]

caster's atk

[ocean sphinx]

burst atk dmg being main thing, I don't think s1 even affects scar nuke

[crisp atlas]

on a defender

[quartz pond]

Privaty maintains her niche monopoly on last hit superiority

[crisp atlas]

big multiplier on a small number doesnt make it vey enticing

[ocean sphinx]

will be like a blanc buff, no dilution

even better if you somehow got a healer to trigger s2

[quartz pond]

The ATK buff is only icing on top

57% attack damage buff

[shy ingot]

She also needs healer

[quartz pond]

That's the cake

[shy ingot]

Cus first S2 triggers off burst

[crisp atlas]

i think the translation is just retarded

[ocean sphinx]

pepper can't heal in the first couple seconds of pvp right

[quartz pond]

Translation is fine

[crisp atlas]

heals triggers when stack expires but

when tf does it expire?

no timer

[quartz pond]

Heal doesn't have a duration

[shy ingot]

But her best pair is SW as always

Cus 2nd S2 trigger at 29th sec

[crisp atlas]

i think the correct translation is supposed to be

cleanse stack once it's full

which triggers the effect

[ocean sphinx]

is there even a healer you can use with her in pve that can reliably give her heals, without having to burst themselves

[crisp atlas]

💀

[sinful aurora]

Marciana

[crisp atlas]

otherwise s2 is never gonna trigger

[sinful aurora]

6.03s S1

throw the god damn cube on her

[ocean sphinx]

oh true, marci works

[sinful aurora]

9 SG = 6s

[quartz pond]

Activates when fully stacked

[ocean sphinx]

prob not worth it over another dps probably though

[quartz pond]

[shy ingot]

Not optimal

[clever sand]

Ciarmana

[shy ingot]

B1 Crown SW Maxwell Yulha most likely

[clever sand]

yulha

[quartz pond]

This was actually a well translated skill set for once

[reef field]

this time they fucked up over at asia

40s b2

[ocean sphinx]

what's her uptime on providing naga with her shield buffs?

[shy ingot]

0

[quartz pond]

after you said an hour ago that Yulha's out when I suggested it

[ocean sphinx]

doesn't crown burst give naga shield for her s1?

[glad epoch]

pull on her banner u might get some other nice things as well :3

[quartz pond]

It does

[clever sand]

Yeah, SW back to the shadow

[quartz pond]

Crown shield is same type as Tia's

Crown works beautifully for Naga

Naga doesn't work so well for Crown

[ocean sphinx]

ok so... find a way for naga to reliably heal crown somehow, crown s1 buff basically replaces naga burst, crown gives more atk dmg than tia....

crown + naga?

[quartz pond]

Somehow stick Guillotine's self hurt on Crown

[crystal edge]

lmao

[ocean sphinx]

maybe that 5 sec taunt and invuln can come in clutch if you time it real well

taunt a hit, then invuln runs out before it hits

[crystal edge]

She might become more optimal later on, when she gets more options to pair with

[quartz pond]

That's the current tinfoil for campaign

but JKs will stay together for raids

[ocean sphinx]

or she'll prob just get 1 tapped from that hit

[shy ingot]

Most likely Doro is used

[crystal edge]

Up until raptures get the "Pierces invuln" buff patch

[shy ingot]

The only B1 that technically benefits from the atk buff

Cus her basic atk still hurts

[quartz pond]

Time for Rosanna to shine

[reef field]

ignore taunt kill rest of the team

solo crown isn't much

[ocean sphinx]

crown for train??? wait do you even have time to stack it before turrets

[quartz pond]

That's when Diesel gets her taunt-buffing treasure and becomes meta

[reef field]

train in 2024? kill turrets before they shoot u

[quartz pond]

Actually should be about right, timing-wise

At 60 FPS, 14-ish seconds

[crystal edge]

Why did they make her atk buff scale with her own atk, when she is a defender on S1?

[reef field]

because money

makes ppl want to core 7

[quartz pond]

Generally one gets to the turrets at the beginning of the second burst, which should be around 15s in

[crystal edge]

Ah, so its for morons

Gotcha

[quartz pond]

They learned from Liter

If you give flat ATK %, there's no reason to get dupes

Just buy skill mats instead

[reef field]

it happened later i think

during sanis banner?

same lesson with clips that's gone now too

[crystal edge]

Dupes still good for CP padding

Thats why people get liter dupes too, aint it?

[quartz pond]

S Anis is still Caster's ATK

[reef field]

ye

[quartz pond]

I don't think they've released a banner character who gives flat ATK

[reef field]

sanis was the first one iirc

[quartz pond]

?

Noir

[reef field]

oh is noir caster atk too

[quartz pond]

Mhm

[crystal edge]

What is clips?

[quartz pond]

Reloads only part of ammo at a time

Like Pepper

[reef field]

for shotgun/rocket

[quartz pond]

Meaning you can prevent the unit from fully reloading

Would've been insanely broken on S Anis

[cedar oasis]

How does her s2 work

[crystal edge]

Not optimally

[crystal edge]

Ah, like with pepper. Gotcha

[quartz pond]

She shoots a lot and gets stacks that make healing more effective on her. When she fully stacks, she heals herself, purges the stacks, she purges the stacks, heals herself, and becomes invincible while taunting for 5 seconds

[cedar oasis]

Like does it trigger upon 20 stacks that arent necessarily stacked get destroyed

Or do u have to protect her until all 20 stacks are up

I think the latter

[quartz pond]

Gotta protect her until 20 stacks are up

But she doesn't taunt until then, and her burst provides barrier

so she shouldn't be in particular danger

SR bosses don't often target highest HP (Blacksmith does, but it's only the tentacle attack which is harmless as long as you clear QTE)

watch Indivilia target highest HP

[cedar oasis]

Aside from that

Holy smokes is the atk buff nutty

[pine gorge]

would MLB

[crystal edge]

https://tenor.com/view/aizen-plan-coping-kid-the-kid-is-coping-gif-26280717

Shiftup right now

[cedar oasis]

Someone brought up an idea of using it on triple burst RH

[dapper sleet]

[cedar oasis]

Yall think this is a good idea?

[quartz pond]

We don't know if it stacks yet

[cedar oasis]

If it does

[dapper sleet]

crown s1 for RH?

[quartz pond]

If it does, double burst at most

[ocean sphinx]

sounds nitpicky, but she might heal after purging stacks

so the heal doesn't get the 80% heal potency bonus

[dapper sleet]

why does RH need reload speed on RH B3 lol

[cedar oasis]

Double burst makes no sense tho

[quartz pond]

Oh yeah, you're right

[cedar oasis]

It's only stacking for rh at apl

[quartz pond]

JP specifies it's after stacks are purged

[cedar oasis]

All*

[quartz pond]

Good catch

[dapper sleet]

crown s2 stack mechanic looks to be same as diesel s2

[clever sand]

Well I guess Rh stays with gals

[crisp atlas]

they need to change the translation team 💀

literally missing information

[clever sand]

She doesn't """"need""" crown

[dapper sleet]

dont they pull in millions a month

how they still mistranslate

[cedar oasis]

More so just for the triple dmg

[dapper sleet]

the 64% casters attack buff?

too diluted

RH already has a lot of ATK buffs if u burst b1 b2 b3 on her

[crisp atlas]

crown + sw

[dapper sleet]

better to throw this buff onto someone else with no attack buffs

[shy ingot]

@sinful aurora i think Attract taunts SAnis highest atk ray, while Taunt provokes SAnis 2nd highest atk ray.

[quartz pond]

Probably hired people who learned Japanese to read doujinshi

[cedar oasis]

Wym by this

[quartz pond]

Can only actually understand the same 50-ish lewd phrases

[ocean sphinx]

wait do we know if RH can triple stack the caster's atk buff?

[quartz pond]

We don't

[crisp atlas]

they are additive

[quartz pond]

But her B2 wouldn't be worth it in the first place

[crisp atlas]

💀

that's why its diluted

[ocean sphinx]

oh yeah

[quartz pond]

There are better B2s to add damage

[crisp atlas]

rh's self atk buff is already strong enough

[quartz pond]

Like Crown's 36% attack damage buff

[ocean sphinx]

like crown b2

[quartz pond]

But RH B1 → Crown B2 → RH B3 could potentially be useful in short battles

if it stacks

[ocean sphinx]

I wonder if crown + marci replaces bunnies in pve outright

sounds like it very well could

[crisp atlas]

💀

[quartz pond]

Crown Naga is better

Crown procs Naga's core damage bonuses

[ocean sphinx]

consistent enough for full uptime naga s1?

[quartz pond]

20s burst

same as Tia

[placid elbow]

Not any less than tias

[ocean sphinx]

ah

hmm

[placid elbow]

Both give shield for 10s on burst

[cedar oasis]

Crowns skill procs only for units that bursted the round before no?

[crisp atlas]

who let him cook

[quartz pond]

For that burst chain

[worthy coral]

[ocean sphinx]

well hot diggity damn, was worried I would regret investing in naga skills in case op pilgrim duo came up

naga stocks rose instead

[crisp atlas]

hello we have a gamemode that requires 5 teams

[quartz pond]

Naga's burst dropped in value a bit for campaign

but still desirable for raids

[crisp atlas]

tiga and bunnies arent going away any time soon

lmao

[quartz pond]

And yeah, worst case scenario we could have this year is duos drop to T4/T5

[grizzled tiger]

they are speaking about usage in campaign / hard mode no ?

[quartz pond]

They won't leave the raid meta for a long time

[ocean sphinx]

would crown + naga beat crown+ extra dps though

assuming you don't need naga heals

[crisp atlas]

if the core exists

yes

[quartz pond]

Don't think you need more than Modernia + RH

[shy ingot]

me

[reef field]

we need better b3 dps like modernia who don't need to burst

red hood crown alice modernia b3

[quartz pond]

Or A2/Alice/SBS if RH is pure B1

[dapper sleet]

let's say a unit gets a 100% ATK buff naturally from their kit. adding in another 40% attack buff makes them have a 140% ATK buff. (1+1+.4) = 2.4 vs 2 is 20% increase to final damage

[shy ingot]

mod wont get atk buff

[dapper sleet]

more value going onto another unit with less ATK buffs

[reef field]

oh right

[quartz pond]

DPS that don't burst are counter-synergistic with Crown

Why give DPS units DEF

[reef field]

crown is so bad

[crisp atlas]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1036760639709921422/1231880219091271702/image.png?ex=66276d5b&is=66261bdb&hm=bb2385dbeb65784d2d041c487c8b8817dc445d51bf943e40315dc37c186c1166&

best feature this half anni fr

[ocean sphinx]

[reef field]

well then new idea def scaling dps

[quartz pond]

Mod probably gonna stick with bunnies

[reef field]

make it happen

[ocean sphinx]

always dread doing advise, so annoying to pull up and search the sheet

[crisp atlas]

💀

just idk

[quartz pond]

imagine using a sheet

[shy ingot]

I just pick random option

[crisp atlas]

remember the answers?

[reef field]

chime is a def scaling b3

[shy ingot]

imagine using a sheet

[crisp atlas]

unless you're a story skipper

[placid elbow]

Just memorize the answer

[crisp atlas]

[ocean sphinx]

I need all the points I can get, still got a lot of units not maxed

[crisp atlas]

we have gifts

[quartz pond]

Majority of the answers should be common sense

[rigid plover]

Tru

[crystal edge]

Mfs cant even remember own answers

[crisp atlas]

its not hard to max lmao

[crystal edge]

Tiktok attention span

[rigid plover]

[reef field]

my turbo button clicks so fast couldn't even read advice answers

[ocean sphinx]

don't have enough gifts to max out all the units I want rn anyway

[crisp atlas]

just curious

are you perhaps a story skipper?

[ocean sphinx]

me? no

[quartz pond]

Imagine telling Blanc and Noir that they can't be in advise sessions together with you

[reef field]

story is good in nikke

bond? nah skip

imagine reading all that crap

[ocean sphinx]

I read bond responses, unless it's one I remember

[crystal edge]

Crown is a defender that relies on heals to have value.....a defender with 5 sec taunt window........a pilgrim defender that cant stay invis unless she blows her load.......I hate the fact that this one is called king ingame. Why the hell are both queen and king dogwater?

[ocean sphinx]

her s2 doesn't even need to hit enemy right?

[crystal edge]

Its like vesti all over again

[ocean sphinx]

can honestly manual her and time it to proc when you want it to

[quartz pond]

She doesn't have to have heals

[ocean sphinx]

doesn't seem like there's a stack timer either

[quartz pond]

Heals just make her better

[crisp atlas]

translation is misleading

[cedar oasis]

"Activates at the start of full burst. Affects all allies who PREVIOUSLY activated their full burst."

Theres no way this means what yall have been saying about it affecting only the current busters.

Its either one of two options:

1. Only affects the b1 (unlikely)

2. Affects the previous burst cycle units

[quartz pond]

...

They previously activated their burst

before full burst

[ocean sphinx]

"activates at start of full burst"

not at her burst

[quartz pond]

[cedar oasis]

Oh nvm

Lol

[quartz pond]

If you want a direct translation of the Japanese:

"At the time of activating full burst, for allies who used their burst skills just before..."

[placid elbow]

How is the s1 constantly being misread?

[crystal edge]

Because thats the only good part of her kit according to some

Why not copium it

[crisp atlas]

who

[crystal edge]

[crisp atlas]

has that person not read her burst?

[quartz pond]

Her burst is the best part of her kit tho

[crisp atlas]

[crystal edge]

Offical nikke maincord is wild

[crisp atlas]

tell me about it

lmao

[quartz pond]

Tia shield + 36% DPS increase

nuts

[crisp atlas]

we got armchair generals who played the game for less then 2 months

and preaching like they know it all

[crystal edge]

They are like the gurus of nikke

[quartz pond]

The only questionable part of her kit is that she has a Makima-style taunt

Hard to control

[reef field]

no heal crown is still op very valuable

doesnt exactly rely on it

it just makes 1/3rd of her kit have half more uptime

[crystal edge]

Dunno about op, but very valuable is believable. Hopefully they release more units that can syn with her better

[reef field]

she's the best b2 in the game

as op as it gets rn

[crystal edge]

I aint sitting here, waiting for that token loli chime to come out to make a king useful

[quartz pond]

but considering the rest of her kit is pretty much a Supporter with a barrier, she actually doesn't want constant taunt

She doesn't have the skills to handle permanent aggro

[cedar oasis]

Idk about best b2

[reef field]

i do

[quartz pond]

She's pretty much just better Novel

[cedar oasis]

Shea a machine gun

[dapper sleet]

shes up there with best B2

[reef field]

machine gun is excellent

[dapper sleet]

she onyl takes up 1 slot

[quartz pond]

Heavy offensive upgrade, not actually much personal tank utility, and then delicious barrier

[dapper sleet]

not locked to a duo

[quartz pond]

Novel is literally dead now

[clever sand]

I bought novel skin

[dapper sleet]

ugh i feel like novel has a month or two left

[clever sand]

[crystal edge]

https://tenor.com/view/rip-coffin-black-ghana-celebrating-gif-16743302

[dapper sleet]

i aint resetting

[severe yew]

honestly a VERY VERY MUCH better Novel

[quartz pond]

This raid already has JKs, bunnies, Biscuit + ???, Crown (or Rem if Crown goes with Biscuit), and S Helm

Novel's even Iron and probably kicked out of her own element

[severe yew]

actually why do they use Generate and Create shield

[crisp atlas]

im a novel resetter

[severe yew]

no consistent wording

[crisp atlas]

those books will go into funding crown's burst

[quartz pond]

Maybe give her burst mats back for the eventual Gravedigger raid when healing is 100% unnecessary

[tacit plover]

Guys im new the reading the chat but. how good is technically crown? Could she replace bunnies and become a all arounder?

[quartz pond]

Better than bunnies

[tacit plover]

zanmn

[clever sand]

Imagine SU making GD doing AOE dmg constantly because they don't want you running no healers

[quartz pond]

Bronchusdigger

[tacit plover]

So i could go Dorothy crown rh scarlet modernia?

[clever sand]

[tacit plover]

and i would have the best team in the game

[quartz pond]

Scarlet
Best team

[clever sand]

I guess Rh remain with gals

and SBS Alice go with crown?

[tacit plover]

wait. rh works better with the gals?

[clever sand]

Maybe this raid, crown goes with snow

[quartz pond]

JKs are still probably top in raid

[tacit plover]

[quartz pond]

Tia/DKW/Naga/RH/Flex is going to be a hard team to separate

[crystal edge]

How? She doesnt have blanc heals, nor does she have the instant reload ^^ like noir

[clever sand]

Maybe xlud or maxwell

[quartz pond]

See her reload speed buff?

Use Res cube for 70+% reload speed

As for healer? Use a healer

Crown is only one Nikke slot

Better offensive buffs than Blanc and Noir combined

[tacit plover]

[quartz pond]

Just throw Marciana in

Done

or kill the raptures faster than they kill you

Crown bringing us back to Admi meta

[cedar oasis]

im just saying shes no centi at burst gen

[quartz pond]

There are only two other units in the game with Centi burst gen or better

[neon jackal]

Here is a pic of my overall units and the wishlist (sorry to be out of topic):

[cedar oasis]

thats the point

hes saying shes the best b2

shes gotta be better

[quartz pond]

lol

All Centi has is burst gen

[crystal edge]

Can centi give reload speed, atk buff, and def up?

Zestue

Stop smoking

[quartz pond]

The shield is somewhat convenient for blocking one-shots, but otherwise...

[cedar oasis]

[dapper sleet]

[crystal edge]

Actually after reflecting over this some more

[quartz pond]

Direct comparison:

**Shield: **Centi shield 6.38%, only works for entire team. Crown shield 10.45%, each independent per Nikke.

Buffs: Centi reduces her one S1 cooldown. That's it Crown provides near 100% uptime of 36% DPS increase with an additional 21% DPS increase with 50% uptime. Also provides 64% of her ATK to two-three other allies with 50-100% uptime. Provides DEF to the remaining 2-3 allies. All allies have 44.35% reload speed increase with near 100% uptime.

Damage: Crown gives herself 64% of her own ATK and is an MG, meaning her damage on enemies with cores won't be neglible, especially with the 36%-57% DPS increase she's enjoying.

Survivability: Centi just has the one shield she shares with everyone else. Crown can turn invincibility, heal herself, and receives additional healing with near 100% uptime.

Taunt: Centi can't. Crown can, although not with consistent uptime.

Burst gen: Centi is top tier in this category alone, but only when manualled. MGs provide more consistent burst gen when controlled by an AI. So even here, Centi's victory is questionable.

Targeting: Crown has a unique targeting system that, while not entirely understood yet, implies that she'll be more useful as an AI than Centi for attacking raptures.

[dapper sleet]

how do we make crowns name sound good

crowngod sounds wack

[crystal edge]

Is crown the best defender nikke atm?

[quartz pond]

Considering most Defenders are garbage, that's a low standard

Notable Defenders are Blanc, 2B, Tia, Novel, and Poli

[crisp atlas]

crow with an n

[quartz pond]

She makes Novel obselete, steals Tia's kit and improves it (only losing permanent taunt and higher all-around survivability), has a 20s CD making her more flexible than Noah, Poli, and 2B

[crystal edge]

Hmm....ignoring defenders underdeveloped role aside, she is still the best one

Meaning she is the best in her field

[quartz pond]

The best actual Defender we have is Noise, a Supporter

[crystal edge]

WAIT NOISE IS SUPPORT?

[quartz pond]

Yes

[crystal edge]

I always thought she was defender

[quartz pond]

The only taunter that has a chance of surviving more than five seconds as an AI

and she got nerfed back in the day

used to be even more unkillable

[crystal edge]

And now we get a defender with small support as well LMAO

As long as they dont try to nerf liter

[quartz pond]

They've never truly nerfed a character (as in intentionally reduced the efficacy of a character to make them weaker)

Nerfs only came about as results of bugfixes

This (+ Bay, who I don't own) is our Defender list

Not much to be impressed by

Crown easily stands out

[crystal edge]

Did you pick jp as your ingame language?

[quartz pond]

Yup

[crystal edge]

Thats another level of dedication. Respect unless you actually are japanese

[quartz pond]

Nope

Though I've been confused for one

If the game were fully voiced, I'd consider being lazy and using English text, but the localization makes me feel physical pain, so I refuse to use it for anything non-voiced

[crystal edge]

Is there a lot of cencoring on the localization?

[quartz pond]

Censoring isn't the problem; they cut out content, have characters speak entirely differently, there are errors all over the place, voiced lines use different terms than the text, etc.

[west moth]

I read Crown's kit and I am extremely confused

[slender tulip]

hi extremely confused

i'm N3x

[west moth]

How does Crown lose her stacks to heal herself, and buff atk on her s2?

Does she have to stop attacking?

[glad epoch]

Now that he asks this, me who is bonked i don't know as well

[quartz pond]

When she hits 20, they are consumed

[west moth]

She's not gonna be healed by other Nikkes in the best teams, if I'm thinking right

[quartz pond]

After stacks are consumed, she heals

[west moth]

Because she can't fit in bunnies team, and Naga Tia probably want every best DPS you can slap in there

[quartz pond]

that activates the part 2

Doesn't need to stop shooting

[west moth]

Ah, okay

So she needs to fire 860 bullets and then gives atk for 7 seconds

[quartz pond]

Originally there was apparently a condition that she had to be highest HP or she couldn't consume the stacks

but that got removed

[west moth]

So I assume you have to run a healer alongside her to actually have 100% uptime on this

And she's B2, so she's taking up a popular healer slot

[quartz pond]

Marciana can function fine as an off-burst

so it's possible Crown'll occupy Team 4 with Marciana

[west moth]

But the other B2 also can't burst, so Marciana doesn't give all her heals

Only one of the heals will happen

[quartz pond]

Hm? Crown can burst every time

[glad epoch]

why healer needed tho? she has shield + she heals herself?

[west moth]

She doesn't have 100% uptime without external heals

[quartz pond]

5% healing every 14s

and half uptime on S2

[west moth]

She has to fire 860 bullets and only gives 7s of atk up

Also, she gives atk to burst 1, and def to burst 3s, am I reading this right?

[glad epoch]

yeah but she is shieleded for 15 sec yeah?

[quartz pond]

Nope

[glad epoch]

860 bullets it's really just a clip for a MG with some % max ammo

[quartz pond]

ATK to B1-B2-B3 who created the burst chain

DEF to those who didn't participate

[quartz pond]

That's still 14s

[west moth]

Oh yeah, I read it wrong, it activates at full burst and not her own burst

Now I get it

I'm not sure who wants these s1 buffs the most, but if it works that way, then it's good

[quartz pond]

The active bursting B3

[west moth]

Dorothy B1 will probably be a given

[quartz pond]

Nikkes like SW, SBS, Alice, RH, whose damage spikes during burst, take the most advantage of it

[west moth]

The support weakens if those B3s already get atk buffs of their own

[quartz pond]

But her S1 ATK buff is her secondary buff

[west moth]

Especially if they don't need reload speed, like SBS

[placid elbow]

Sbs already kinda diluted with 115 self atk buff

[quartz pond]

The burst 36% attack damage is her main appeal

[west moth]

They're both still atk buffs, they get diluted

[quartz pond]

Yeah, but still better than Privaty

[west moth]

For sure

[quartz pond]

And B3s like Mod who don't burst during boss get nothing

She's actually preferential to a team with only two DPS B3s

Well, if one wants to focus on the S1

[glad epoch]

they might cook this summer as well, sHelm and sAnis, both were good

so they may release some charas that benefit heavily on crown kit

[crystal edge]

When you guys say diluted, do you mean that they dont stack, that they override, or that its simply stupid to add more % atk buff?

[west moth]

They stack additively, they don't multiply

Whereas Blanc's damage taken up multiplies with everything

[crystal edge]

Ah, I appreciate the explanation

[rocky mantle]

KEKW

[jovial quartz]

People just love trying to break up the tianaga combo lol

[dapper sleet]

anyone know what this means

[reef field]

someone dies in a deficit

might as well make it tia

[reef field]

people speculated it means targeting the silencers that stop burst

[slender tulip]

special stage mobs like explo, implo, pull monsters?

[sharp delta]

I actually kinda like Tia taunt it's cheesed alot