[Crown] New Unit Megathread

[copper shell]

Everyone always thinks about sw and some other union

And it’s always, by the end of the raid Snow White yulha

Without fail

[ocean sapphire]

Xlud is too flexible tbf its really possible she pairs better with someone else

[quartz pond]

Yeah, SW Yulha with S Helm probably

[ocean sapphire]

like RH Xlud

[quartz pond]

I refuse to use Yulha tho

[plain glen]

wat did i just witness

[quartz pond]

Too annoying

[ocean sapphire]

yeah honestly screw Yuhla

[copper shell]

Not sweaty enough

[quartz pond]

X Lud won't be great this raid I think

[agile beacon]

Pepper + Crown + B3 + B3 + Summer Helm is passable if the enemy is weak to Iron?

[copper shell]

Yulha sw is fun

[quartz pond]

Didn't see a core in demo

[ocean sapphire]

if anything she still has the debuff

[pliant oriole]

Nothing. I might need to summon instead of doing lb0

Is what i was trying to say

[ocean sapphire]

does Indvilla have part's?

[agile beacon]

Actually yeah, I think I'll go with this

[quartz pond]

Oh right, for some reason I always think the debuff requies core hits

[agile beacon]

Crown in P1 as someone said for if whole team is full health

[quartz pond]

when it's the lame S2

[ocean sapphire]

just pray Indvillas" mechanics" aren't hit you insanely hard again

[quartz pond]

Yes, but non-regening it seemed

[copper shell]

So in terms of value how does crown buff compare to liter

[agile beacon]

Someone claimed that Crown by herself is equal to Tia + Naga

So, beats Liter, but Liter is B1 and Crown is B2

[ocean sapphire]

yeah just play em together

[copper shell]

Also 15 second buff

[elfin burrow]

Liter/Crown/B3/B3/Rapunzel is a strong team

[copper shell]

So even if they were equal longer uptime would make it crazier

[mortal quarry]

am I gunna invest into SW in 2024 of all things

[copper shell]

Makes sense

[ocean sapphire]

4 Ele Rapu time

[visual coral]

So, Crown. Worth pulling for or no? I'm going to assume that as the 1.5x anniversary character she's probably amazing or whatever, but I honestly don't know. I know there's a bunch of free rolls so I was planning on using them on her banner anyway, but is she worth spending my gems on and going for gold mileage ticket?

[agile beacon]

Maybe I should put Modernia with Crown and let Modernia burst? Dps loss though...

[copper shell]

Yes

[agile beacon]

But 15 seconds buff...

[ocean sapphire]

"pull or die"

[copper shell]

So is rem benched already?

[visual coral]

Righto

[elfin burrow]

Imagine if Liter was a pilgrim lol

[rigid plover]

atk up and atk damage up may make up for DPS loss

[ocean sapphire]

nah trust in RL plan

[cedar gust]

https://tenor.com/view/capybara-let-him-cook-gif-11999534059191155013

[reef field]

next sr all teams need iron

[agile mist]

damn

[reef field]

doro + crown makes sense

cover iron

[ocean sapphire]

but real talk if Crown doesn't take Doro then Rem still has her place

[elfin burrow]

Team 5 will either be Rem&RL(A2, Emilia) or SW depending on boss I think??

[cedar gust]

Problem, no half Ammo from privaty

[copper shell]

Ok so remember still valuable for now

[ocean sapphire]

Boss part's don't regen so A2/Emila are kinda oof

[sinful aurora]

man

Crown is so strong

[ocean sapphire]

Laplace is coming though

[sinful aurora]

[copper shell]

Apologize to crown

[ocean sapphire]

So Rem will work soon

[sinful aurora]

that all MG with reload Cube WILL NEVER WIND UP

[copper shell]

Apologize

[elfin burrow]

Also yeah Rem can slot into Doro Sanis team if Marciana is overhealing

[reef field]

we can ask for nerfs

reverse rh

justice for tia

[placid elbow]

Send trucks to our own houses instead too.

[agile beacon]

Full MG team with Crown next

[elfin burrow]

New unit who gives 0.001 CDR for every bullet by an ally

[vale valve]

why do you want Crown to boost Burst 1's attack?...

[cedar gust]

Laplace is late may, solo raid is early may, too late for this one

[ocean sapphire]

yeah sadly it'll have to be next raid

[sinful aurora]

74.04% with total reload

[ocean sapphire]

but if she's good enough rem have a new home

[sinful aurora]

if the reload < 1s

MG won't wind up

due to Crown

MG will never have to wind up, anymore

[ocean sapphire]

Crown took everything from diesel man its crazy

[sinful aurora]

the fun part: This reload lasts 100% time

[elfin burrow]

Good thing Modernia gets the reload without bursting lol

[mortal quarry]

what level of reload cube?@sinful aurora

[sinful aurora]

lv 7

so effect is lv 3

[mortal quarry]

bogus

[sinful aurora]

I'm not sure about < 7 tho

[elfin burrow]

So MG want reload instead of bastion now? Lol

[agile mist]

SU: we will buff diesel
also SU: proceed to put nail coffin before buff even out

[elfin burrow]

Resilience stocks keep rising

[visual coral]

You know what's odd? I have Liter and I just don't get it. I use her because I'm told to use her but I don't understand the hype.

[sinful aurora]

yeah, because Bastion still makes windup

but Resi allows you to reload OUT BURST

[ocean sapphire]

they could have buffed literally anyone else man

clowns

[elfin burrow]

Use someone else and you'll get it lol

[visual coral]

I will be honest. I do not understand team building in Nikke at all. I just hit auto and go from there

[copper shell]

Is it finally time to take sw s2 to 10 for crown team

[reef field]

remove marciana put in biscuit

go run biscuit + crown if you have to

build a proper t5

is 2b even used in 2024

[elfin burrow]

Tbh Crown is probably better than Liter. Liter does 3 jobs:

• damage buff
• CDR
• cover repair

Crown does 3 jobs:

• Damage buff
• Tank
• Damage buff

[reef field]

tia naga are better than liter this is why campaign is literless rn

tia rh naga is the burst chain

[copper shell]

Well th buff is just higher

In a shorter period

[elfin burrow]

Campaign is literless because of RH not JK

[copper shell]

Liter buff is higher than red hood if you get max s1 stacks

[reef field]

without jk it wouldn't work

[elfin burrow]

?????

[copper shell]

But most campaign stages only get 2 burst rotations

[elfin burrow]

Yes it would?

[reef field]

no

[visual coral]

I've used Volume, Exia and Rapunzel for burst 1s. Volume feels about equal to Liter for me? Exia I'm not super fond of, but I just don't like snipers honestly. Rapunzel feels pretty useless, her burst is too long to be useful and she feels squishy and dies first anyway

[reef field]

what team do you use without jk

bunnies?

rh buffing noir?

lmao no

[copper shell]

You just run liter with jks

[elfin burrow]

That's separate lol

[copper shell]

It’s either liter or red hood for campaign pushing

[elfin burrow]

JK are meta for campaign because core damage is a broken buff

[reef field]

rh b1 works because jk exist

[elfin burrow]

This is separate from RH being better than Liter for campaign pushing

[reef field]

there is no campaign team rh b1 without jk

[sinful aurora]

Add

• Decent DPS

[copper shell]

Without jks you would still run liter or red hood

The point is attack buff

Before that it was Blanc noir

[visual coral]

Oh yeah. My understanding is that you can choose between either Rei or Kilo when 1.5 anniversary hits right? Is there a recommendation on who to go for?

[reef field]

no you wouldn't use b1 rh without jk

[slender tulip]

Biscuit + Poli/Elegg > Marciana + Scarlet

[copper shell]

Yes you would

[elfin burrow]

Because there is no campaign team without jk.

If jk didn't exist the 2-burst RH Strat would still exist, just being able to push less far

[reef field]

do you guys even know what the jk rh meta team is?

[cedar gust]

Don't have Biscuit poli elegg built enought

[copper shell]

It’s the attack buff you want and that’s what Carrie’s the most in hard campaign

[reef field]

we're not talking about the same thing here

[elfin burrow]

Rei is trash, Kilo is mid, so pick Kilo

[copper shell]

Jks are the meta campaign team cause of attack % helps deal with cp gaps

[reef field]

bruh

you guys don't understand it

[tame swift]

Craazy

[copper shell]

Without jks people ran Blanc noir before that

[agile mist]

yoi get free kilo and 3 box selector

pick one for rei if you dont have her then you can mlb kilo using silver ticket

[reef field]

it's this

tia - rh naga - alice - modernia

burst chain is rh > modernia and rh > alice

how the fuck would it ever work if you replace tia + naga answer is it doesn't

[copper shell]

You don’t run jks volume in campaign

[hasty gyro]

diesel's treasure buffs revealed?

[reef field]

core dmg is busted, hence why

[copper shell]

You legit do not understand lmao

[ocean sapphire]

nah

[hasty gyro]

o

[reef field]

no u don't

[elfin burrow]

Just replace Naga with Blanc and Tia with a Noir who doesn't burst lol

As easy example

[reef field]

doesn't work

[copper shell]

The point of that team is you stack as many attack buffs as possible to bypass cp

[reef field]

you can't double burst rh b1 in that team

[copper shell]

If jks did not exist, and they didn’t always exist

[reef field]

???

[elfin burrow]

Lolwut

[vapid scroll]

I mean you can

[copper shell]

You would still run an attack buffing b1

[vagrant root]

Lmao

[vapid scroll]

just second B1 would be 40s cd

[reef field]

tell me what the burst cycle is

[copper shell]

I do not understand why you can’t understand that

[agile mist]

devs have notes on it that say it will buff her survivability or smthng

meanwhile crown just enter with 5 second invul totaly powecreep any taunter

[vapid scroll]

so you just stall for rh to come off cooldown

[reef field]

he doesn't push campaign much, you can tell by his logic

so no use arguing

[copper shell]

True lol

[reef field]

me using the best campaign team

ya'll arguing for inferior teams

yeah must be me who doesn t understand lol

[agile mist]

rip diesel

[reef field]

by pushing we're saying 35-40% range

[copper shell]

No we’re explaining to you why the team is used that way

[reef field]

deficit

[copper shell]

You just copied the team

[reef field]

i have literal best cp deficits on my name

[copper shell]

You don’t understand why the team is used

[vapid scroll]

diesel's burst is controlled taunt instead of crown though

[hasty gyro]

I see, thanks

[elfin burrow]

Bro the team doesn't need JK to function, it just uses them because they give the best buffs.

You can swap them for inferior B2 and still use the same cycle, just with less buffs (e.g. bunny)

[copper shell]

Direct Attack buffs is the single best way to counteract cp deficits

[elfin burrow]

Maybe you've done well following other people's team strats but you clearly don't understand it

[copper shell]

Which is why even without jks, liter and red hood would still be the main b1 s on a campaign twam cause you want as much attack boost as possible

[vapid scroll]

diesel can prob still work in 4th or 5th teams for train and something else

[reef field]

if you use bunnies you're getting fucked over hard because you will end up with a noir cycle

[copper shell]

Before jks we ran bunnies and before bunnies we ran Centi

[reef field]

bunnies simply don't give enough output dmg

[agile mist]

question; is this the "increase ATK" buff we speak off

or sumthung like attack damage like in crown and helm is also good to counter cp deficit?

[copper shell]

Yea it’s good

It’s also better than Blanc since Blanc only applies to present teams

That’s not the argument

[elfin burrow]

Is this still the 2-cycle clear?

RH->B2->RH or Modernia

Then

RH->B2->Alice

JK are optimal but not mandatory

[rigid plover]

not what they're arguing

[reef field]

solo b1 rh can burst 3x

if you go rh > b3 then the last cycle is noir

fucked

[vapid scroll]

bunnies easier for boss raids though, tia taunt likes to get herself killed

[copper shell]

The argument is that you would still use rd hood or liter cause an attack buff b1 for campaign is the most important part

So even without jks, you still run liter red hood

[reef field]

yes liter red hood

[copper shell]

Rd hood > liter obviously

For campaign

[reef field]

because JK's make it possible

[vapid scroll]

?

[copper shell]

No they don’t lol

[vapid scroll]

wat

[reef field]

nobody would run rh bunnies without liter

[vagrant root]

Bro lmao

[reef field]

literally nobody

[ocean sapphire]

my man believe in Laplace A2 vision (cries)

[vapid scroll]

[ocean sapphire]

its beautiful

[reef field]

it's ok man just run what you like

[reef field]

funny considering nobody runs the teams you guys are proposing

[ocean sapphire]

whaaa isn't that what we do

[unreal sparrow]

how did this thread go so far off course lol

[agile mist]

i dont even know what thread is it now lol

[ocean sapphire]

RH is B1 on campaign jo matter what team no?

[reef field]

remind me again ?

[rigid plover]

because no one has fucking crown yet?

it's theorycrafting with crown

[reef field]

we run jk + rh

[copper shell]

Raoul just has negative reading comprehension

[vapid scroll]

bunnies still work for some stages

[copper shell]

I’m going to sleep

[rigid plover]

oh yeah, lemme just

[agile mist]

but last tens of message is speaking rh, liter and jk

[vapid scroll]

idk what you saying

[ocean sapphire]

i used to use bunnies for cp padding

but rh is always b1

[reef field]

then you realized cp padding wont save you right ?

lol

[ocean sapphire]

only way i can push now

[ocean sapphire]

nah Naga Tia is just better

[sharp delta]

If u know exactly what attack DMG buff does in the formula(which we do) u can 100% predict exactly how much damage it increases

[reef field]

the argument isn't what works

centi still works tbf

[ocean sapphire]

but i could still use Bunnies

[elfin burrow]

Raoul thinks JK are necessary to take RH without a B1 like Liter

[ocean sapphire]

not for hard campaign though

[reef field]

bunnies just dont burst the target fast enough anymore

for hard ofc

[agile mist]

ayooo where crown discussion 👀

[reef field]

back to crown

[ocean sapphire]

we waiting for crown apology

[rigid plover]

originally it was before it devolved into this cesspool

[ocean sapphire]

from all the non believers

[vagrant root]

Time to go back to the Red Hood new unit thread

[copper shell]

They refuse to apologize

They have no shame

[reef field]

Crown is a safe 1 copy imo

[ocean sapphire]

where is gatrix

[vapid scroll]

su would've been trucked with 40s b2

[elfin burrow]

Their better buffs let's them push further, but the concept of using RH to burst twice isn't unique to JK

[reef field]

just think of her as a b2 liter without the cdr

[ocean sapphire]

you need to do your due diligence

[copper shell]

He ran after I told him to apologize

[vapid scroll]

also people believing in deleted tweets

[reef field]

new campaign team rh naga crown b3 b3

you heard it here first

[rigid plover]

should be MLB for most optimal performance because her atk up buffs rely on her own stats

[vapid scroll]

obviously messed up

[rigid plover]

so stars and OL gear actually matter

[ocean sapphire]

the fact that they had a version like that is really funny ngl

[vapid scroll]

Only crown S1 is own atk

[ocean sapphire]

to mess up like that

[vapid scroll]

other is all straight percentage up

[reef field]

true, but s2 and burst is attack up so her stat dont matter. She can still function well without dupe

[vapid scroll]

Probably an early version or a template they didn't change

[elfin burrow]

Hang on am I the crazy one? How does JK fix that? Doesn't Noir just fill the wasted slot Tia fills?

[unreal sparrow]

i'm calling it, crown is bait for the next duo

[reef field]

ppl pull rem

she's team 4

if Crown is bait i cant even imagine something they cooked up next

[ocean sapphire]

Play them together

[sharp delta]

When u think about it ur increasing that 60% by2% = 1.2% of caster's(defender's) attack per lb

[agile mist]

elysion duo

[rigid plover]

fair enough, just saying that MLB gives more optimal results

[reef field]

ingrid lol

[sharp delta]

It's a % of a % of a character who has lower base atk anyways

[reef field]

i stopped at Elysion

[ocean sapphire]

next Duo is 1-3 right?

[elfin burrow]

Liberation Indivilia with the most mid kit you've ever seen

[ocean sapphire]

if they keep the pattern

[vapid scroll]

who knows

3-3 duo

[ocean sapphire]

yeah they could be funny

[reef field]

next duo is 1.5 2.5

[ocean sapphire]

2-2 re enter burst

[reef field]

we need a unit that can reenter any burst

[pallid fiber]

Yeah she is OP af

[rigid plover]

ingrid put all of elysion's budget into maid privaty and D's tits

[elfin burrow]

I still want a 2->1 and 1->3 burst duo

[sinful aurora]

https://twitter.com/arcana0993/status/1782367959056544245

あるかな (@arcana0993) on X

めっちゃ雑ですがキャンペーンでよく使う編成のティアナガ部分を変えた時のダメージ比較
コアダメージ込み：ティアナガ＞クラウンマクス
コアダメージ無し：クラウンマクス＞ティアナガ

って感じっぽいですね
なんならブラノワならクラウン単体で上回るという…

Twitter · Apr 22, 2024, 11:16 AM

[unreal sparrow]

to be fair, that budget was money well spent

[sharp delta]

Wat do the moon runes say

[sinful aurora]

translate yourself

[ocean sapphire]

wind weakness trust

[sinful aurora]

[rigid plover]

true, waifu D is a good B1

[sharp delta]

I can't read moon runes and I'm still in bed

[rigid plover]

but elysion just needs better units in general

absolute is supposed to be the Ark's strongest squad yet they're so ass in-game

[placid elbow]

Branoix is meta

[pallid fiber]

Ingrid needs to pull off her lazy ass and start manufacturing something, anything at this point will be better than taking Syuen's forehead long naps

[ocean sapphire]

Braxion banner when

she sounds good

[reef field]

branoix nice

[rigid plover]

Elysion is supposed to be the militaristic company anyway

[reef field]

sounds like a man's name

[elfin burrow]

Core damage doesn't get diluted by crown buffs so just run Crown + Naga for campaign lol

[rigid plover]

release actually good units ingrid

[quartz pond]

(translation)
With Core: Tia Naga best
Without Core: Crown Maxwell
Bunnies > Crown alone

[elfin burrow]

No need to compare the two

Run both

[rigid plover]

ffs

[mortal quarry]

This guy is comparing bunnies/jk/crown+maxwell

[mortal quarry]

.

[soft loom]

Why maxwell?

[sinful aurora]

lack a slot

so you throw Maxwell in

his chart is correct, at least on my sheet

[elfin burrow]

Surely that slot needs to be a healer tho?

[sinful aurora]

if you change Mod > Xlud

[quartz pond]

Don't need heals if you kill everything fast enough

[sinful aurora]

then Crown Max Xlud > Tia Naga Xlud

[elfin burrow]

Lol

[ocean sapphire]

healer in campaign

[reef field]

sad there is no naga crown comparison

[ocean sapphire]

dead Raptues can't damage you

[elfin burrow]

Crown S2 needs heals. Even running with Naga is mildly cope for uptime.

[quartz pond]

I still generally run Liter/Centi in campaign

[pallid fiber]

SW enjoyer detected

[sinful aurora]

5 SG

[quartz pond]

Nah, my campaign comp is Liter/Centi/Smol White/Red Hood/Maxwell

[sinful aurora]

it's like 3.35s per heal

[reef field]

as long as she crown heals herself during burst window it's all good

[sinful aurora]

[reef field]

just line it up with all buffs

[sharp delta]

How r u going to burst with both crown and naga

[mortal quarry]

Core Damage with: JK > Crown Max
Core Damage without: Crown Max > JK

[pallid fiber]

Come SU give us some nasty SW buff, something like next B3 damage +100% lul

[quartz pond]

I only use JKs for walls cuz Tia's my third-most hated character

[elfin burrow]

Give up on Naga burst, it's just a bit of ATK.

Crown will trigger Naga's core damage which is what matters. Tia replaced.

[ocean sapphire]

real shit

rest in piss Tia

[quartz pond]

Crown S1 + burst > Naga burst

[pallid fiber]

Jokes aside, Crown+ Scarlet or BSS should be nasty

[reef field]

at some point every stage is a wall

tia has 2 big walls

[pallid fiber]

🥵

[frozen charm]

this true? is tia getting cucked?

[sinful aurora]

Naga burst + Tia S1

[pallid fiber]

Seems so

[sinful aurora]

Crown S1 > Naga burst
Crown burst > Tia S1

[elfin burrow]

For story? Yes
For SR/UR? No

[quartz pond]

True, but same point

[pallid fiber]

New Pilgrim takes the 👑

[sinful aurora]

just want to elaborate how strong this 20s B2 is

[quartz pond]

Naga doesn't need to burst

[cedar gust]

I just realized
New meta for Interception Speedrun if Crown S1 stacks x3 with Red Hood

RH > RH > RH
With Crown Elegg Maxwell for passive skills

[quartz pond]

She's there for core damage and heals

[rigid plover]

that's only if the buffs can really stack like that

while there is no indication that it can't work, if it did SU would probably change that real quick

[elfin burrow]

You're only stacking the ATK buff

[quartz pond]

Fine, I'll unblock you

[placid elbow]

Just ask him to unblock you

[elfin burrow]

Its good but not going to break the game

[cedar gust]

It's just to kill Alteisen even faster

[rigid plover]

giving almost 200% attack buffs to rh isn't going to break the game?

[elfin burrow]

Would RH B2 even be worth for more ATK? Or would Crown B2 be a better buff? Lol

[cedar gust]

Want to kill it in one full burst like the rest

[quartz pond]

Ah, you're right. Lack of particles and reading too quickly

[tranquil flume]

crown safe to skip?

[rigid plover]

no

[quartz pond]

Not a good combo

[tranquil flume]

okay ty

[sinful aurora]

oh I don't buy the part when he said Bunnies > Crown

[quartz pond]

Not surprised that MTL would reverse it, too

[placid elbow]

Even if it was, itll only be for 1 fbm.

[quartz pond]

He didn't

I read too quickly

[sinful aurora]

yeah, then we are good

[quartz pond]

The poster omitted particles, so technically it could be read either way

[sinful aurora]

Bunnies are very mid now

[quartz pond]

but the poster meant that Crown was stronger

[elfin burrow]

This is about one-burst SI clearing

[sinful aurora]

and it's crazy that I think it this way

[quartz pond]

no computers was correct

[cedar gust]

Probably not because too much ATK buffs, alteisen does have a core on the left or i'm misremebering? Cause Naga Crown stuff

[quartz pond]

Rapunzel has the highest frequency heal

That's probably why

Didn't consider how long Crown's buff lasts

[elfin burrow]

Rapunzel is most reliable / gives burst gen that most crown teams lack

[quartz pond]

Bottom of large turret barrel is the core

[ocean sapphire]

rapu and Pepper are the only healers who can keep her up

i think Naga too?

cause o heal frequency

im probably missing someone

[elfin burrow]

Naga won't be 100% uptime but good enough

[clever sand]

Marciana

[quartz pond]

She should be highest HP

[sinful aurora]

Marciana is 6.03s

[ocean sapphire]

any allies heals counts

[sinful aurora]

with reload

[quartz pond]

She literally needs to be highest HP for her S2

[clever sand]

rapu?

[ocean sapphire]

ahhh

[elfin burrow]

Frima is true reliable

[sinful aurora]

so it might have slip up, but overall great

[quartz pond]

Oh wait

Official kit removed that part

That's good since it was stupid

[sinful aurora]

yep

[ocean sapphire]

Rapunzel's healing is periodic

[placid elbow]

Stream lied 😠

[sinful aurora]

imagine not being hit to be highest HP

[cedar gust]

No core on second half then?

[quartz pond]

As far as I know of

It's cleverly hidden if there is one

[lament orbit]

But what if you're lagging? Ie it takes 28.66 seconds at 30 fps

Skill issue?

[limber trout]

Just wait for now
I'll do a proper analysis when I'm free

[clever sand]

Students

[limber trout]

Let gatrix cook and try to understand what he says

[clever sand]

[limber trout]

If you don't wait for me

[slender tulip]

pictures

[limber trout]

I need to sleep and wake up for now

[slender tulip]

[lament orbit]

I still think schoolgirls are too good for campaign pushing

[slender tulip]

opening thread early then taking 0 responsibility

[lament orbit]

If anything the update will make it easier for you to burst faster

[elfin burrow]

Swap Tia for Crown and you'll likely do better (burst with crown)

[clever sand]

Let's read Reddit reviews

[lament orbit]

Then what's the point of Naga then

[placid elbow]

Core dmg

[reef field]

naga s1

[placid elbow]

Heal

To trigger s2

[elfin burrow]

Core damage and heals to proc crown s2

[sinful aurora]

Scarlet Crown Centi Anis Jackal

I call it first

2 RL Scar btw

[reef field]

oh pvp

[sinful aurora]

with 36% dmg up + 43% ATK

the strongest B2 buffer

[lament orbit]

So Tia is out then? It's not like Naga does damage or heals a lot at super high cp deficits

[placid elbow]

The s1 atk buff wont affect scar burst tho

[reef field]

ye tia gone

[sinful aurora]

hm yeah you are right

still a fake Blanc

without indom

[lament orbit]

If anything you feed the enemy Jackal

[sinful aurora]

how much do I feed?

26 ammo at 2 RL

Blanc feeds 22

[elfin burrow]

Nah just make immortal PvP team and hit the three minute time limit

Kilo/Jackal/Noah/Biscuit/Crown

Or some shit

[lament orbit]

Why remove Tia? Is her team wide shield that much of a crutch?

[sinful aurora]

Crown also gives team wide shields

[lament orbit]

Oh yeah on burst
But what about fast burst generation?

[reef field]

rh / alice

[placid elbow]

Rh spam shoot

[reef field]

spam shots

mg is also best burst gen for ai

[lament orbit]

Is this where the RL/sniper change comes into effect?

[sinful aurora]

do you think we run a campaign team with all MG/SMG?

Red Hood is pretty much forced in Campaign/Tower

sometimes you even use Alice with her

if you can't gen burst, I don't know, may be tap faster?

[quartz pond]

Everything Tia offers is within Crown's kit

[sinful aurora]

[quartz pond]

but Crown won't kill herself when controlled by AI

[reef field]

kinda funny how unoriginal crown is in that sense

tia 2.0

[robust gulch]

It's RH+Alice+Mod for me since Hard 19 to 21 now

[sinful aurora]

even boss stage?

[robust gulch]

Possible Proably replace Naga?

[robust gulch]

Boss is depends

[quartz pond]

Nope

Core damage too valuable

[clever sand]

Rh as B1 in boss

[sinful aurora]

old stat of Crown. May be the burst gen is also kept

[quartz pond]

Crown wants heals, too

[robust gulch]

I feel like Crown is Dorothy B2

[quartz pond]

Naga gives heals

[robust gulch]

only boss but will always be there

[quartz pond]

The kit is nothing like Dorothy tho

[late bison]

liter the boss specialist

[rigid plover]

when running 1-2-2 suddenly becomes meta

[robust gulch]

What i meant is how you use her is like you use Dorothy not skill

[quartz pond]

We're already doing it in Dorovity team

[reef field]

2-2-3-3-3 campaign meta

[lament orbit]

And the b1 is 40 sec cd

[reef field]

crown naga alice rh modernia

[agile beacon]

You used 3 seconds though. Are MGs really 3 seconds?

[sinful aurora]

no, they are 2.3 ~ 2.5

only Xlud has 3s reload, the longest

[late bison]

can't believe I'd run a resilience on Mod if she's with Crown

[sinful aurora]

it's what it is

[agile beacon]

Ah, I see

I literally didn’t remember MG reload times

I just shoot

[sinful aurora]

a MG that rules all MG

a

Crown

[agile beacon]

Of Bullets

[elfin burrow]

Maybe I need to unlock a fifth resilience slot lol

Whole team's gonna want it

[late bison]

5 Resil campaign team

[agile beacon]

At least Pilgrim tower is about to get a whole lot easier for many

[sinful aurora]

to be fair

[rigid plover]

tru

[sinful aurora]

other weapons don't need reload that much

[agile beacon]

Gremlin be gone!

[sinful aurora]

only MG needs strict reload time

because of wind up

[rigid plover]

dragon mommy fell off

[sinful aurora]

that's why the buff on MG feels much better than Alice/Red

especially Red, who doesn't even care about ammo

[agile beacon]

What’s the viability of Crown being played as non-bursting B2?

[elfin burrow]

Tbh I never know what cube to give red

They all feel meh on her

[sinful aurora]

I put Vigor

for PVP

only nub not using it

[elfin burrow]

Lol

[sinful aurora]

[agile beacon]

Example case, Rem + Crown. You play and burst with Rem, ignore Crown. Is this gimp?

[sinful aurora]

gimp so hard

[late bison]

Bye bye attack damage

[elfin burrow]

Crown B2 is better than Naga B2 let's put it that way

[sinful aurora]

Crown herself is stronger than Rem too

except Fire boss

[quartz pond]

Crown's burst is crazy good

[elfin burrow]

Poor Rem

[sinful aurora]

well, Water is strong against fire with ele roll we know

[agile beacon]

RIP Rem

[elfin burrow]

I guess I'll be the first to say it

Rem Who?

[sinful aurora]

Remid

[cedar gust]

Xmas Mica diesel was a thing for a couple days

[sinful aurora]

@dapper sleet

[agile beacon]

Max Ammo x4 a shoo in, I guess

[quartz pond]

Rem will definitely reappear when we have more Fire bosses

[elfin burrow]

Yeah Crown gonna be ammo > elemental > atk

[quartz pond]

just how 2B only shows her face when Wind bosses show up

[elfin burrow]

Rem will reappear when we have more RL DPS too

[lament orbit]

Does crown need a lot of rocks to roll for as much max ammo as possible?

[elfin burrow]

She'll replace SW for team 5

[quartz pond]

Laplace treasure

The more ammo you have, the faster she stacks

[placid elbow]

Will she even care about ammo she got like 74% reload spd.

[quartz pond]

Although if she does end up in Dorovity comp, I guess Max Ammo matters a lot less

[elfin burrow]

It's not insanely necessary like some characters, just nice to have

[elfin burrow]

Is this assuming Privaty???

Oh resil

[quartz pond]

+44%

[crystal edge]

seemingly, but I doubt any amount of superior buffs can give an output that JK's cant. Worst of all, def and reload speed up? When you can iframe or have barrier shild spams on all your nikkes? She is the second coming of nihilister of the pilgrims.

[quartz pond]

lol, that was before official kit came out

[lament orbit]

So crown is perfectly balanced?

[agile beacon]

Depends on your luck

[quartz pond]

Naga + Crown > Naga + Tia

[elfin burrow]

The demo must've been 1/1/1 or some shit because her official numbers are cracked lol

[agile beacon]

4 rocks to upgrade 4 T9M to OL, each gets max ammo, GG. Can happen.

40 rocks rerolling 4 OLs, and only seeing max ammo once on one gear and never seeing it on other 3… also can happen.

[lament orbit]

I have like 18 rocks saved

[placid elbow]

Or they realized they need to sell that gachi skin

[quartz pond]

Also, the DEF buff goes to 2 Nikkes, one of whom may not even matter

[agile beacon]

But I didn’t work out the actual probability. Somewhere there’s a probability list… sec

[lament orbit]

It's 12%

[agile beacon]

Alright, let me grab that chance calculator used for pulls, I’ll just apply it here

[elfin burrow]

Won't lie if skin is good... I've got some disposable income to burn on a new meta mainstay I guess

Replacing Tia in campaign? That alone is huge

We thought we'd get Crown & Chime duo but it's secretly Crown & Naga

[agile beacon]

13 times for 80% chance of seeing max ammo

[lament orbit]

Also how dead is diesel now

[mortal quarry]

why do we need max ammo when you don't need to spin with crown no matter what?

[elfin burrow]

Diesel has been dead for so long

[agile beacon]

So if you have no bad luck at all, you can have your fingers crossed on seeing max ammo once on each gear during a total spend of 52 rocks, or fewer. This is a probability thing, basically if there were 10 of you, 2 of you would be crying after 52 rocks. Some might still cry for having spent 52 rocks..

I just checked for good luck - 3.3 of the 10 of you would be seeing 1 max ammo in 4 rolls. If that luck holds, you’d only use a total of 16 rolls to get 1 max ammo on each gear.

[crystal edge]

Hmmm....for a pilgrim? On half anni? I wouldnt say so.

[elfin burrow]

Yeah with Resil and high investment S1 maybe don't need max ammo lol

[reef field]

we're going 10-10-10

to the moon

[elfin burrow]

Will have to play to see if she wants ATK for damage or HP for tanking I guess, OL wise

[lament orbit]

But how cover works when reloading mean you want to keep shooting when you get the taunt

[worthy coral]

I have an uncontrollable desire to collect abnormal gears. Even though being thought of as useless trash, they are always deciding who goes to the next plane of existence. At the end of the universe, after the explosion of the sun, the person with the most abnormal gears gets to ascend to the next world. If I collect enough abnormal gears, I will be able to transverse universes and be the first to have infinite power. Abnormal chars are useless now, but soon they will rise once again.

[lament orbit]

So you need close to 1200 ammo

[late bison]

max skill on Crown, Naga, RH, is really good for that Hard campaign CP padding, not to mention 10/4/10 Alice and 10/10/4 Mod

[lament orbit]

Or roughly 900 with bastion

[elfin burrow]

Not just for CP, all crown's skills scale her damage buffs

[lament orbit]

Do the damage buffs stack?

[late bison]

yeah, this comp will probably last for a long time in campaign/tower meta

[slender tulip]

probably but we need to test

based on stream, yes

[elfin burrow]

From under 15 second burst cycle? No

Tested this with RH, can't stack her B1 twice for SW memes

[sinful aurora]

actually

dmg buff may not stack

because Laplace S2 and Burst true dmg can't even exist at the same time

it's been like this since her banner btw

so yeah, there's always a chance Crown burst and Crown S2 can't coexist

and you will cry about it

[agile beacon]

Eh

[sinful aurora]

like me who reports Lap bug every patch

[novel radish]

Lol, I rmbr you bringing that up

[elfin burrow]

Fast cycles might be able to stack the reload buff i guess, getting the ATK and Def versions overlapping

[sinful aurora]

same source won't stack

[reef field]

if crown s2 and burst don't co-exist then all the more reason not to run a healer

[elfin burrow]

Yeah if they don't coexist you can abandon healer and among other things, Doro team becomes way more viable / less of a waste

[reef field]

i think it's gonna stack though

pilgrim privileged

[elfin burrow]

Yeah, Laplace was early game release

Every character was bugged

[reef field]

treasure laplace will fix s2 and burst stack for 2 dupes very cheap

[late bison]

we do an RH if it's not stacked

[elfin burrow]

Does this mean you might remove your ATK buff early, replacing it with a Def buff?

High CDR = suffering from success

[sinful aurora]

well ATK =/= Def tho

but ATK = ATK

[elfin burrow]

Oh I see, so just the reload part won't stack

[sinful aurora]

so they will refresh

or NOT

because I tried D ATK buff at 9th second of FB

then wait till next rotation

wanna guess the duration? It won't refresh

[placid elbow]

Nagas got 2 seperate core hit buffs that stack

[sinful aurora]

I know

normally they stack

but they can always create bug

then ignore for like

I don't know

1.5 years now?

[placid elbow]

They wont ignore a pilgrim bug

[reef field]

maybe laplace fix on the side cope

[elfin burrow]

Laplace probably bugged from weapon change anyway

[sinful aurora]

Lap burst is pretty much Snow White with 10% less dmg on non core boss

the more you know

without bug

well she's bug, so she's shit

[mortal quarry]

will be fixed with her treasure's release

[elfin burrow]

Bug is the parts damage not working right?

Clearly that buff is only coded for her rockets lol

[sinful aurora]

part dmg won't trigger when true dmg exists

nope

funny is

when you don't stack 5 stacks S1

part dmg exists

[elfin burrow]

Ohhhh it's only if true damage applies? Lollllll

[sinful aurora]

so you have to choose

either true dmg from burst

or bonus dmg from S2

[mortal quarry]

we need a cdr gal with heals so bad

[reef field]

what shelm should've been

[elfin burrow]

What smary should've been

[quartz pond]

Whether or not the buff will stack is unknown

Famitsu guy made it seem like it would

but his wording didn't confirm it

[elfin burrow]

We have more examples of buffs stacking than not

[quartz pond]

The character VAs took it that way, though

[elfin burrow]

I think we'll be fine

[reef field]

either it stacks

or she's skip

[quartz pond]

I mean, whether or not it stacks actually doesn't matter much for SR

Just campaign

[elfin burrow]

Lol even without S2 I think she might outperform Tia for campaign

[reef field]

full value or no value

[quartz pond]

RH can only do a triple burst once or double burst twice

so for 3 minute fights,

and in either case, using RH's B2 isn't ideal in the first place

[elfin burrow]

Tbh might be better to use RH B1 with Alice in a 3min B1CDR team?

[sinful aurora]

may be I can cheese through 279F with Crown

[elfin burrow]

To spread crown buffs more?

[copper shell]

279 is a trash floors

[elfin burrow]

Sold

[copper shell]

And shift up should be ashamed of themselves

[sinful aurora]

my Tetra with way more cp also stucks there

[elfin burrow]

What happens in 279? Bombers? MG shields?

[slender tulip]

@scarlet cedar

you gonna buy?

[sinful aurora]

[copper shell]

It’s a bad floor

Across the board except for main tower

[sinful aurora]

3 MG shield healers with boss is a Def up tanky boss

[scarlet cedar]

i hope whoever cooked burns in hell for all eternity

[copper shell]

[sinful aurora]

it's actually not a threat stage, but more of brutal DPS check

[copper shell]

Can you one shot the boss before the heals become too much

[elfin burrow]

That's amazing

[copper shell]

Answer nope

[sinful aurora]

tried

my Snow has 30% ATK

[copper shell]

It’s only possible for me on the main tower

[sinful aurora]

with Red burst

and I can only blow 50% HP

[copper shell]

Crown will make it possible

[sinful aurora]

yeah

may be with Crown

Snow can cheese through

[copper shell]

[elfin burrow]

Crown & Mod should be enough to get the shields down right?

[sinful aurora]

urghh it's kinda complicated

[copper shell]

Too many healers

Like actually too many healers

[elfin burrow]

Once they lose their shield those raptures are always squishy as fuck tho?

Oh just too many shields to take down

[copper shell]

Also you have 5 attack down mobs

So if you don’t one shot the boss you have permanent attack down

[sinful aurora]

it wouldn't be so bad if it were Iron weak

it's not

Electric weak

imagine rolling ele on Scarlost

or Ikakabel

[elfin burrow]

Don't have a Full Ele Harran lying around?

[copper shell]

Harrell

[elfin burrow]

Lol

[copper shell]

Harrkek

[sinful aurora]

Harambel

[elfin burrow]

Pepper will never be meta

Not unless she gets an alt

D killer wife style

[mortal quarry]

peppa, sit on this man's face and tell him he's wrong

[tame swift]

https://tenor.com/view/laughing-spider-man-j-jonah-jameson-jjj-fun-gif-16881310

[quartz pond]

She is safe to skip... if you only play for PvP

[rocky mantle]

yuusuke then whats the best cube for crown :3

[tame swift]

Idfk i've been asking this b4

[rocky mantle]

[quartz pond]

Obviously HP cube to buff the barrier

[tranquil flume]

??

[rocky mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-gif-10208425816236080465

[reef field]

quantum i need that burst gen

[tranquil flume]

[rocky mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/desmondpacito-cooking-chef-gif-12378159

[placid elbow]

Resil, so she never has to deal with mg windup

[tame swift]

New op nikke trying to not use resil cube challenge = impossible

What level so that 4 nikkes can use the same cube?

[hoary adder]

6?

[slender tulip]

6 = 4 nikke
8 = 5 nikke
10 = 6 nikke

[elfin burrow]

But also getting Resil to 7 should be first priority tbh

[elfin burrow]

6 Nikke?

That's only relevant for PvP lol

[quartz pond]

Also relevant for lazy people who don't like switching equipment

[hoary adder]

so you'd think ammo lines aren't important for crown because of innate reload speed?

the hell am I doing with all this then

[sand vortex]

Food them

[vocal flicker]

Save for Cinderella in November

[soft loom]

I don't even have money to upgrade gears...

lv 360 so costly...

[hoary adder]

push towers and hard campaign

got a big creds injection doing 50 tower floors in a week some time ago

[soft loom]

Well, I never do money farm in hard event stages...

[visual crater]

It will rain money soon enough with ch 29-30 clear

At least you were fine for a while

[quartz pond]

How do you run out of money?

[visual crater]

Lv 321+ is pretty costy

You start running out of credits and battle data too

[quartz pond]

I'm synch level 370

Core dust rate prevents running out of credits

Rather, running out of credit boxes

I do run out of credits

[visual crater]

Yeah, credit box starting to get thin

[quartz pond]

Still have hundreds of credit boxes tho

Nothing like battle data tho

[soft loom]

Lv 321+ above cost 11,000 cores, and 4800m credits

[quartz pond]

I thought it's 350+

[visual crater]

Nah...not yet

[quartz pond]

It's every 50 levels

[soft loom]

Oh, I'm at lv 360

[visual crater]

11k is 350+

[soft loom]

so yeah, that my trouble

[quartz pond]

400+ is 12k core dust

1k extra core dust every 50 levels

Oh right, reminds me that I need to +5 some Defender gear now

[lean canyon]

I did that with Noah

[soft loom]

I wish we could reset gears level

[lean canyon]

She will get those +0 once crown drops

[soft loom]

non-OL

[quartz pond]

My Noah is OL gear

[soft loom]

simp

[quartz pond]

Gotta keep up PvP strength for them gems

[lean canyon]

I'd OL her but my PvP bracket is slow

[soft loom]

My friend, an FGO veteran player, said Crown debut in a wrong game

preference to her burst, looks like something come from FGO

[sinful aurora]

hm

I talked too much

my value has dropped till next OP char

[sharp delta]

4x ele dmg

[sharp delta]

see u at ani

[tame swift]

Can't wait for the mfs to flex getting crown with 1 free pull every day

[sinful aurora]

I call summah

[sharp delta]

true

their seasonal banners recently

sanis -> xlud

[sinful aurora]

in PVP

in PVE

Xlud claps the shit out of all seasonal Nikkes

[sharp delta]

i mean even sanis at the time was stonks

minor stonks

[vocal flicker]

Welp, at least my girl centi can rest

She’s been carrying me since like ch 4

[reef field]

bye Novel, it was nice knowing you

[sinful aurora]

51% + cube = 53 frames
49% + cube = 55 frames
44% + cube = 59 frames I guess?

cube on Guillo

S1 lv 10 on both Priv and Sanis

to let you have a feeling of how broken that 44% reload permanently will be

MG skips wind up

[elfin burrow]

Getting it to 5/5/5/5 for stats and then living with whatever trash lines you start with

[vagrant root]

As a year 1 fgo player she debuted in the right game considering fgo sucks

[elfin burrow]

As a veteran FGO player:

......the story is good......

[vocal flicker]

Fgo, my abusive girlfriend

[vagrant root]

The only good thing about that game

[elfin burrow]

It definitely hasn't aged well gameplay wise

Or graphics wise

Or gacha rate wise

[vagrant root]

It also took almost a decade to get shit other gachas have always had

Core gameplay consists of farming mats for characters you'll never use

Everything gets powercrept within 2 weeks

[elfin burrow]

Ok but we are in the Crown thread, 2 weeks after Rem banner ended lol

[vocal flicker]

I’d be dead simply getting an auto mode for farming

[vagrant root]

Nikke doesn't do that with every character though

[reef field]

rem still plenty good

[vagrant root]

Fgo is just a new aoe unit that somehow hits 300× harder than the last one

[reef field]

crown just way too top

[vocal flicker]

Nah I’d say things only get massively powercrept every 6 months

[vocal flicker]

Yep

[elfin burrow]

Rem's still team 3 or 5 for me because I still don't have SW lol

But Crown is definitely powercreeping her

[vagrant root]

They made st servants completely useless

Why have st characters when aoes will do as much damage

[reef field]

crown is powercreeping all b2

[vocal flicker]

Although I will still absolutely be pulling for the Mahoyo collab

[vocal flicker]

Yeah basically

[reef field]

and tbf it's what the people want

everybody gets mad if crown isn't broken

[slender tulip]

make her suck

one and done

[fallow rune]

If she is t broken wouldn’t it be the same as Red Hood

[slender tulip]

save for summer

[vagrant root]

One of the main appeals of Rem is that she let's you run basically 3 - 4 dps characters while still having supports

[fallow rune]

Isn’t*

[sharp delta]

ill make u suck

[round forum]

My contribution to this thread

[slender tulip]

WOAH

[tame swift]

Get out

[vagrant root]

Yeah because nikke has an issue where most characters are either useless or incredibly niche. People have been pretty vocal about wanting good units

[reef field]

naga joining the kingdom real quick

[elfin burrow]

In the next week I'm using huge saved up stashes on:

• Crown
• Mahoyo collab
• Arlecchino

I'm lucky I have in-game savings across all three games or my real life savings would be in danger hahahaha

[elfin burrow]

Amazing, the meme evolves

[vocal flicker]

Same except I don’t play jp fgo

I will be hoarding for 2 years

[vagrant root]

I hope we get more units Like killer wife D tbh

[fallow rune]

So random, but will SAnis get another banner

[vagrant root]

She's a good unit who's not insanely broken

[fallow rune]

I was on haitus when it first released

[vocal flicker]

Probably

[fallow rune]

[vocal flicker]

But not a separate one

[elfin burrow]

Yes, but the rateup will be actual garbage.

You should save gold mileage and use that instead. Her gacha rates will be worse than a pilgrim.

[fallow rune]

That is fine, I want her finally for a team

Yeah I will save mileage tickets

[vocal flicker]

It’ll probably work like the Christmas gacha

[fallow rune]

Only have 190 currently used them for SBS

[elfin burrow]

Normal rate: 2%
Pilgrim rate: 1%
Limited rerun rate: 0.5%

Use gold mileage or suffer

[vagrant root]

I'll golden mileage sanis for sure

[fallow rune]

Currently have about 11 multis so hopefully I will be blessed with Crown

[elfin burrow]

Decent chance, especially since we get two free multis for crown banner

[tame swift]

https://tenor.com/view/laughing-spider-man-j-jonah-jameson-jjj-fun-gif-16881310

[vocal flicker]

I at least have enough gold tickets to get Crown immediately

[vagrant root]

I have about 20 multis

[fallow rune]

[tame swift]

Just mileage the bitch and dip

[elfin burrow]

I'm gonna have to roll ~50 times if I wanna MLB her lol. Almost had enough to skip the 1% rate entirely.

[vocal flicker]

Although I wonder how much I’ll need to have her be as strong as my Centi lmaoooo

[fallow rune]

Think she is worth MLBing

[vagrant root]

After experience with fgo which has 1% rates for every ssr I'm not even bothering using my actual summons

[elfin burrow]

Crown is likely gonna be the new:

• meta story/hard mode team (replace Tia)
• team 4 for SR
• either team 1 (replace Tia) or team 3 (build team around her) for UR
• best B2 pilgrim tower by so so far

If you're fully f2p then maybe best to only get dupes for DPS, but otherwise looking likely worth it

[vagrant root]

Fuck that

Mlb stats don't do enough to be worth chasing 4 copies of a 1% ssr

[shy ingot]

She needs healer

[tame swift]

Replacing tia is just cope

[elfin burrow]

The only possible issue is burst gen without the RL lol, otherwise just straight improvement

[tame swift]

Imagine using two b2

[elfin burrow]

Naga's burst is optional, it's her core damage that matters

[vocal flicker]

Just Tia? From how people were hyping her up it seemed like she can even beat out the bunnies

[quartz pond]

Looks at Dorovity Team

[elfin burrow]

To be clear:

By herself she can beat out bunnies, either as team 4 in SR or team 2 if we wanna shuffle the team orders.

Replacing Tia, she can reach even higher damage for hard mode pushing

[glad epoch]

her S1 seems hard to use for me, but my understanding maybe lacking, what is she good for?

[elfin burrow]

Basically a question of whether to split her from Naga for a second top tier team or not. In SR definitely split, in campaign no need, in UR.... Will depend I guess?

[quartz pond]

Massive offensive team buffs + barrier every burst like Tia. Complimentary taunt while invincible

[glad epoch]

seems like only good using for a redhood that already bursted?

[elfin burrow]

Key is that her burst will trigger Naga's S1 with its huge core damage

So she pairs properly with Naga

Unlike all prior meta units

[glad epoch]

does she need to be played in a 2 b2 team? and to burst first time with the other unit? otherwise, how the atk buff affect more than 1 unit?

[quartz pond]

At least three Nikkes have to burst to enter full burst

Each one gets the ATK/Reload buff

[elfin burrow]

All three of her skills are damage buffs, and she taunts with invulnerability 1/3 of the time.

She can buff herself and deal decent damage herself

[sinful aurora]

or 1 Nikke

[glad epoch]

I see, I see, thanks a lot Vampire and Kigitsune

[quartz pond]

Potentially Red Hood can acquire the buff 2-3 times

but uncertain yet

When she comes out, we'll see if Famitsu guy deceived us

[elfin burrow]

RH probably can but it's arguable whether that's worth it outside of SI speed clears

[quartz pond]

Would be worth in campaign

[elfin burrow]

Might be better to share the buff around instead of diluting it

[hoary adder]

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[quartz pond]

Make bosses vanish

[elfin burrow]

E.g. RH->Crown->Alice

Would give both RH and Alice the buff

Instead of diluting it all on RH

[quartz pond]

Yeah, but why use Alice burst when you can use RH burst

[reef field]

you want to give it to the primary burst

[quartz pond]

RH burst stronger

[reef field]

if you use rh burst cycle then you ofc give it to rh twice

[glad epoch]

Isee

[reef field]

i'm giving it to modernia in campaign though nothing like mowing down waves of raptures with a billion buffs

[quartz pond]

But no way we'll known if it can be applied multiple times until we have her

[glad epoch]

Does the new boss have core?

[quartz pond]

Gameplay didn't show one as far as I'd seen

[elfin burrow]

Probably not if they're trying to nerf JK lol

[quartz pond]

But the player also had sloppy aim

[shy ingot]

She needs healer

[elfin burrow]

Need is a strong word

Without it her S2 buff has a ~50% uptime.

[reef field]

if her s2 lines up with burst timings it's no big deal

off burst buff who cares

[elfin burrow]

Small loss yes, and worth considering if building team around her for SR

But for e.g. hard mode pushing, not enough to make her worse than Tia

[quartz pond]

Adding a healer to comp is opportunity cost

[glad epoch]

Who can heal her then, considering we use her with the JK? Or is that not her team

[quartz pond]

so if healing isn't necessary, more damage will come from another DPS and half uptime

She won't be used with JKs in raids

[shy ingot]

Tbh no she doesnt necessarily need healer

[reef field]

naga heals her in crown naga team its pretty funny

[glad epoch]

anyway, i'm too stupid for this conversation

[shy ingot]

She is the best SW pair

And u just need to time well

[elfin burrow]

For campaign, take your current JK team, swap Tia with Crown and you're done.

For solo raid, best to build a team around Crown and let JK be a separate team, so you have two good teams.

[quartz pond]

JK comp
Bunnies comp
Dorovity comp
Crown Comp
Flex (Tove comp?)

[elfin burrow]

Sadly it's been pointed out only if she takes damage without dying, which at high deficit.... Is a tight rope

[reef field]

crown could be everyone's best pair

i'm not sure if there are b3 worse off with crown