#[Crown] New Unit Megathread
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peppa pig
How does Nero work with Rem's shared healing?
Mainly for curiousity not actual cooking
Shared healing is a buff, ironically
So once and never after, afaik, also.. Rem is a lifeleech
She’s not casting heals, she’s leeching HP and sharing
E.g. if Rem shares healing between Nero and a self healer
But if someone tried to heal (like Rapunzel + Rem combo) I have no idea
for the core dmg
Crown may not bring much like Naga Tia, but she's less slot hungry
and remember, Crown herself is a DPS
Crow
not like Tia Naga who deal 1 dmg
...
I think she brings an insane amount of utility tbh, and reload speed seems to be kinda discounted by people atm
Depends if in priv comp, she got 100% reload spd
But I think the reload speed is pretty awesome to have
And her buff durations are 15s…
it lasts forever
Hard mode pushers, is it looking viable to replace Alice or Modernia with Crown to be crazy and run Tia/RH/Crown/Naga?
only the 20% AD has 50% uptime

it's basically perma buffs for B1 and B2 high uptime for B3s
fuck I need to c7
dunno why you ask for another Liter
The fact this uptime is already achieved, should mean it’s not worth trying to force a particular healer into the party just to proc it more often
i guess she becomes like that thanks to being MG and she herself has 100% uptime on her own buff ?
You want to use her with S. Anis?
XRupee
Rupee & Crown will have fasted invulnerability cycle since she's iron lol

she's going into my sanis team. Doro can fuck herself for avoiding me for so long
Liter crown Rh mw/snow/xlud rapunzel
litter , crown, RH, snow white, maxwell. Iron Woman team
Yes, let the Rupee + Crown propaganda flow through you
40s 💀
wait is rapunzel iron ?
Was a typo… it’s 20 CD

Oh
Yes iirc
Crown wants healing is the main issue with most teams
Then god mode
Our best healers (aka buff & heal) are all B2
🤌
rapunzel gonna hit some big splash number if enemy got parts LMAO
This is my kingdom cum
PEPPER AAAAAAA
?/Crown/Rupee/dps/dps surely I’m cooking
Just pair her with Rapunzel, and rely on Crown’s crazy good dmg utility to bring team DPS up to snuff
BUT CDR DOKO
50% uptime? fuck that healer going 3 dps
It should be still effective

honestly another way to look at it is that it sets up crown to be a duo with a future nikke coughchimecough
So Chime will be b1 cdr with heal 
Again, it's looking like you have to pair her with a dedicated healer right now, which costs a slot basically
goddamn so much synergy with pepper tbh
pepper also want reload speed because she's last bullet
and pepper has nuke scaling with atk
Same deal with Blanc & Noir or Tia & Naga anyway
2 slots to carry the team, just we have flexibility with Crown’s partner
i'm a healer but
aight soo what we looking for the Rolls
pepper crown b3 b3 dolla/shelm insert
pepper treasure when modCheck
elem % , reload , ammo ? i dun think atk% is that much worth since low attack
have heals all day
Dolla without using her burst? Lol
Reload OL?
kinda have to, just for cdr

Just throw in Sakura or some shit at that point
lasts 7s. 43 x 20 = 860 shots = 14.33s
You don't need to burst with her, she's for CDR
so, 50%
factor in reload too man
yeah just shuffle your B1 CDRs around
crown's buffs are so flexible, you can put in any b1 cdr
Probably yes, if you think about it before Crown even shows up we already had teams going. 5 teams.
she's dead ass good as a sole B2 buffer
Yes, i heard shes pretty decent with fairy tale model no. 2
good enough for me if she can solo survive a raid
So, without healer she will have her buff uptime 50%. Maybe 3rd dps will be better
but peppa is your 3rd dps
Yeah but her S2 relies on her bursting to do anything so she's basically a slot wasted on just being CDR

better build rapunzel and spam her RL 
my time to shine weeee
honestly it's fine to not rely on a healer for her assuming your crown doesn't flop over from damage inb4c+7requiredlike2b
just do a simple math
- Crown alone = Naga + Tia
but rapunzel gotta full charge every 7s
just full charge first or last shot then spam 
Liter/Crown/Rupee/SBS/Alice 
crown sss tier b2
god
with 2.5% dmg buff more
like gatrix was saying her 20.99% attack damage buff has 50% uptime
that's dam good for her own solo healing
She can't heal her team
yeah, I don't understand why she's 20s cd, but well, you are asking for it
- her own dmg i dont think naga tia do anything .
yep
Full Iron time: Liter/Crown/Rupee/RH/MW
Gatrix gimmi a hug
Ni core dmg as well
Cover recovery? Heal?

now 1 flex slot run any healer
1 dmg in hard campaign 
nah you run pepper as main b1 and then flex slot as cdr
ok so what OLs does she need

I’m looking forward to her in campaign. Liter + Crown 
Isnt tiga like 39% atk buff.
32% dmg buff, and 1.5x core dmg?
RH+crown bruv
gotta calculate the lost of getting recovery effect every around 10s+ instead of 7s if not using rapunzel or yuni or pepper single heal targeted crown
but they have down time
cuz most other healer give buff once every burst etc.
Most dmg done during fbm anyways 

Crown & Biscuit is probably good enough uptime tbh, especially if she takes too much damage while not invulnerable
The unknown influence is going to be her taunt + invincible. If it works out really well, she might be able to absorb a lot of blocked damage. Or she might not. But there’s definitely one fight where this is extremely useful when timed well - Mother Whale’s elite spawn wave
need a healer for this or her 1st part from s2 also work?
Heck Crown being MG even counters some of Mother Whale’s mechanics…
crown doesn't work well with biscuit cuz she's defender
S2 works but only triggers every ~15 seconds
Wouldn't crown get Biscuit's defender buff twice?
may be a healer can proc it once a while
Marciana buff is treated as recovery effect
the lifesteal
biscuit heal attacker after full burst
while giving supporter lifesteal from burst
but defender need to be hit to lower than 50% hp to get heal limited to twice per battle
does pepper's burst snapshot her atk?
the buff, not the heal
last bullet
Oh
9
Crown ATK buff lasts enought to Buff Dorothy Buff right?
yes
Ye
I found a way to get 100% uptime on Crown S2 dmg buff
Can Doro hit 6s without Privaty?
Rapunani
@last geyseryeah I'm legit thinking about OLing my peppa
use yuni leave her auto lol
if rh does full chain will she get 3 times the buff ? 👀
yes
the downsides of using pepper
no cdr or forced to slot in idle cdr
need to manual play her all the time
it seems likethat
64%x3
Frima treasure gonna be meta lol
lmaoo
numbers makes it seem like a must pull, no?
100% must pull
seems pretty damn strong
can't skip
now it's time for smary to have permanent uses
I love having gems when good units come

KEKW
all those atk up stacks are insane
i can ditch tia naga alice rh mod comp now and use dkw crown alice rh mod
what is % of priv reload speed up?
just imagine her dmg at first brust its going to be like a nuke
crown is so good she's story team meta
51.16% if level 10
what the fuck
actually thinking about it how DOES her buff for S1 work would it stack differently depending on your burst role? (1,2,3) or does it not stack at all meaning if you burst faster than every 15s you could have 2x attack up buffs on B1 and B2 roles 
so she got 45% reload speed with all those trucks of atk up?
liter/rh + crown S1 + crown burst + rh
also according to that wording, that should be an individual shield for everyone right?
aria has the same wording for her burst
Probably doesn’t work because once the lifeleech buff is applied, it has a duration for 10 seconds, then Yuni would be refreshing the buff. So it’d only count as Recovery once at the initial application. Never for the refreshes
should be
after full burst happen
any participant using their burst skill get the buff
priv is good because half ammo
way better than reload speed buff
yes
Funny how crown just powecrept Rem in less than a month 

okay question: how does her S2 trigger? how does it remove the stacks? you just gotta not shoot?

Stream showed indiv shield
this is why I left rem at LB0 and 1/1/1 investments 
we have a nikke that does this and she's dead
KEKW
stack removed when it stack to 20, 43 hit per stack
since it's also caster's atk, that means MLB and OL gear matter on crown
so 860 shot for the stack to be removed

If only she increased ally max HP instead of Def
removes at 20 and basically half 50%~ uptime on her attack damage buff roughly 33%~ for the other stuff
so ammo atk% elemental and ? in ol
Xrupee is still the best xmas themed defender in the game
I was gonna mlb crown anyway just for burst animation but hey extra stats and atk up boost justifies it more 
elemental seems not neccesary,
atk does however
for s1 buff increase
It dont work like that
element damage is always for DPS purposes and she is technically MG
with good buffs sooo
oh, it doesn't?
atk from ol line not buff her s1
very nice bonus if anything
it just base stat
ok, only ammo up then
ok
When it says caster's it means base atk only
also yes you at least want to level 5 her OL gear
for those attack stats to affect her S1
and this guy is asking refund
KEKW
Casters atk not casters final atk
it does
OL doesn't but gear does
Like the flat base stats
the stats from leveling gear affects, the ol lines don't
wtf, is rem useless now 
nah still T5 material
You can still pair her with A2
attack buff on the 2nd skill always active if she got heal from other sources right?
Rem still good for RL allies, she's no longer the Marciana replacement tho lol
T6
T1-T4 is pretty much occupied at this raate
She just got her t1-3 card revocked
Rem will return next time we get a good RL DPS
I wouldn't be skill resetting her just yet
We just need more cdr units B1 Or B3 now
Laplace post treasure 
who here had the 40s JP post
for a second I thought you were saying we need more B3 cdr units 
reading comprehension -100%
wait for chime with cdr b1
Did jp twitter reupload the kit?
thankfully crown is 20s B2
B3 CDR Heal SG 
We sure?
yes


So it’s 20s now?
stream showed regular burst rotations with crown

yes
so it should be 20s
has been fixed
yepyep
Ohhhhh thank god
dragon mommy getting replaced
Doesn't her skill 1 sound shit when paired with units that need to burst to deal huge damage, can someone correct me if im wrong?

now we can bury nihli alive
so like u cant pair her with RH, alice, sbs etc
oh shiet i dint even thought about the buff last long enough for dorothy to make use of it
Rip this meme
no?
wat
Dragon mommy stonks down 
what does "previously" mean then?
put fire dragon face instead and change it to 20 sec cd
Hold up y'all....
Can we just swap Tia for Crown? Naga will get shield from Crown for her S1, and will give heals for Crown's S2
the next rotation will be a different b3
now make this meme with this meme on the coffin
it means whoever used their burst skills that leads up to full burst
But why?
both naga is S2, kinda wasted
does that include the burst 3 that initiates it?
Both b2
Somebody do this memeception pls 
you rather put crown on different team
she's missing cover repair, 3/10 WOULD NOT ROLL
if you are actively part of the full burst chain you get attack buff if you aren't part of the chain you get def buff
anyone that activates the burst chain gets the buffs
that's it
got it thanks
We need thi meme with gals and bunnies
so if you use RH B3 to go into full burst, she gets the atk up
and if you use RH 3x full burst that's 3x stacks supposedly
wait but crown doesnt give shield though
You're still getting the core damage from Naga
technically we need to test that still
crown s1 only give def up right
Burst
Oh I thought Crown burst gave allies shield tho
ahh okay
She do
Which will proc the core damage buff that makes JK so broken
Naga powercreep?
inb4 chime comes in as a B1 that can repair cover to pair with crown
Crown/Naga might be the new hard mode team lol?
i read the sentence wrongly
she does
ye, we need to test if it stacks or no
Rh doing Maxwell nuke each attack for 10 secs

I need to make on gachareddit a thread how a white girl powercreep the black girl 
Crown doesn't replace Naga, she replaces Tia
I posted in wrong chat
You still bring Naga for her core buff
She replace both
But I wanted to ask if individual shields stack
As in if you used Tia -> Liter -> Crown bursts
What happens then?
Fck, evil plans are ruined
https://arca.live/b/nikketgv/104284344?mode=best&p=1
alice with crown is 12.1% stronger than with tiga
sbs with crown is slightly weaker than with tiga since her carrot is got robbed after others burst
you can check atm by using tia blanc
I'm saying that Crown & Naga is almost certainly going to powercreep Tia & Naga, for same slot cost
and see how the shields interact
I don’t think that qualifies properly right? Isn’t Blanc shield umbrella?
or tia aria
Tia Aria will test it
That’d work to test it, yeah
Or fuckwang
but in multi team scenario you're going to leave tia useless lol
instead of having crown on another team
I'm talking about hard mode pushing
ah kk
I havent used jks in story since they have less cp than my other units
Current hard mode uses JK because core buff is too good to ignore.
I'm saying Crown & Naga still gets all the core buff, plus all Crown's buffs
This is it for Tia?
no Tia Naga is still the main duo
Now that u mention it, seems to be the case for campaign
can crown create shield proc naga's condition for generate shield(which tia does)?
that was just theory crafting for hard campaign pushing
Ahh I see
Even for B1 CDR campaign teams Crown&Naga should be better
BUT you CAN technically run Tia + Rupee and Crown + Naga as well
It's only in multi team scenarios (UR, SR) you'd use Tia I think
legit duos that work technically
create shield = shield on caster and protects everyone
while generate shield = everyone got their own shield HP right?
so only tia and aria? can proc naga condition? or naga can proc with create shield too?
Crown's burst should proc Naga's S1, giving that 80% core damage buff
All allies is indiv shield.
Self is umbrella
the s2 works with rapunzel healing? or crown must be proc her stacks?
Ooh those numbers look tasty
yes any healing source
nice
works the same way as nero's conditional healing
And Naga can be crown's healer, freeing her from Pepper/Rapunzel
Rapunzel heals 2 lowest allies, she can never heal Crown
Man, looks like crown will eat up all my skill books 
https://arca.live/b/nikketgv/104284842?mode=best&p=1
and this guy is claiming that yuni will be a useful buffer for crown
Those additional effects turned out very important 
That's more rng thing, but still true
doesn't lifesteal just work as well?
those additional effects turned out 
Yep+21% permanent when crown+rapu
Though sadly S1 was indeed caster's stats
Still 10/10/10
technically for that permanent uptime you just need to proc a heal every 7 sec
One time per Life steal buf iirc
peppaaa
what if new cube heals ? COPIUM
Had to be so people would get dupes lol
Rapunani heals lowest hp, crown is defender
MLB and OL time 
pepper same but 1 target while rapunzel 3 target
depends if it is a lifesteal (only 1 proc) or a x number of shots proc effect
Watch it trigger her S2 once at start and never again like other heal over.time buffs lol
Lol elaborate
anyways like gatrix already mentioned 43 bullets at 60fps with 20 stacks required is 860 shots total = 14.333333 secs
I like the Frima Crown meme, maybe her treasure will add CDR and make her relevant lol
Looks like she will indeed be becoming the pillar of the 4th team
he got a valid point but idk
would only affect herself and b1
Ok chat how's Crown so far? Is she ultra freaking broken? 
Mid
liter tier B2 
Really?
Super broken
Shes the best 1.5 anni unit
xD
yes really, save your gems for summer
This makes more sense
This is what I've been saying lol
Crown & Naga new hard mode.team
Ram does it too
All I know is that Yuni only has passive lifesteal for all allies and with Crown having HP potency, she can have a boost from the passive

Doesn't work since Naga needs to be shielded first.
marcianna might have 100% up time
you don't burst with Naga
What team
Use Crowns burst instead, Naga just for core
???
Does Crown replace bunnies on story teams?
Ether and Ram
And occasional healing for crown S2 too
so no tia?
No tia
Who she replaces anyways?
Who uses bunnies for campaign anymore? 
and again Tia + Rupee and Crown + Naga are legit duos 
Crown/Naga/B1 CDR/B3/B3
Who the f u use
Nihil in pilgrim tower
JKs
especially if crown has 10/10/10, should be a better CP padding than a 10/4/4 tia
Tia dying with one taunt lol
Manually play her
Still no
You won't have the juicy add on from the burst but if you say that's just for the core damage then yes

Crown need to be fully invested... damn
do we need 10/10/10?
Who Crown replaces anyways?
highly recommended
Naga core damage is what matters most from JK
Crown will.give more than enough ATK to make up for it lol
Tia hurts my CP, so getting rid of her would be nice
Nihilister for tower
That's for sure
And on raids and story?
Looks like I may truly MCB after all
Yeah I can definitely see this
Rem
For story I think she replaces Tia
And tbh you probably don't run a healer other than Naga for story comp
tf?
Replacing Tia for Crown makes me insanely happy
Her ol subs would he ammo cap, atk and charge speed?
crown + Naga team is dumb
This is the fastest powercreep in the history 
Charge Speed...?
wait for release and see how her s2 scales
if her s2 already starts at a high number, can go 10/7/10 or something
Elemental dmg

The usual
Crown procs Naga's core damage
Naga also procs Crown's S2
It's gonna be the new story pushing team, pretty sure
Rem still have usage. Not many good b2 healer anyway. Still bright for her. Chill
Let em cook
actually not dumb
Rem can still heal team 
liter/dkw crown alice rh modernia
but liter/dkw crown naga alice rh is also interesting because crown triggers naga's core dmg
Dkw?
yes
that's good yeah
d killer wife
Ok. Crown looks meta af
nah bs scarlet is worse than those b3
20s b2 with good values
if crown don't get hit it's hard for non all allies heal to heal her
Crown will get hit by bullets aimed/fired during taunt but hit after taunt
My team rn is doro, bunnies, sbs and rh. Should i replace any?
get crown replace bunnies
yeah that works well
it took crown 43*20 shots to taunt for 5 sec
it's slightly higher than 33% uptime on her taunt and invul
assuming 60fps ofc
860 bullet in 60 fps is how long (in seconds)
14.333333
mmmmm
How much does Rupee speed that up? Lol
how about comboing her with buff stacks giver like xmica rupee pepper
How much does Xmas Mica speed It Up?
- Crown should deal as much as Scarlet non buff against core boss
- Crown should give 2.5% more offensive buff than Tia + Naga combined
20s cd
ppl cry about chime being healer but chime needs to increase mg attack speed
that would be balanced
Pepper also has stack stuff?
But what about Crown&Naga combined? Lol
Wdym by scarlet nonbuff? Like without her atk stacks?
included her 5 stacks S1
but nothing else, no Liter, Doro, Novel etc...
But people told me that defenders don't do damage
@sinful aurora
so it's must be true
1 stack every 20 sec lol
I mean kilo doesn't 
a stack is a stack boy
Craziest part is we're not even including her huge reload buff in these equations are we? Lol
crown should be able to proc the core damage from naga, just tested with ether who has the same "creates a shield" keyword and the buff is applied.
more reason for crown naga alice on hard campaign 
alice stocks keep going up
Too much reload could be bad for manual Pepper, making her reload full instead of just a bit
Suffering from success
But yeah, reload is cool too
she never does if she manual yeah
Helm was the first banner
Milk has 3 times less life steal than helm
Both 40s
Maybe if reload is so high one frame can do multiple clips? Lol
when I think of it
may be her ATK S1 is not that long
because it must be the B3 that burst

B1 choice will really come down to between Liter or D Killer Wife, Liter will generally be good but using alice+red hood might swing it round
so every other rotation
?
the buff to Alice, let's say
Alice gains buff first, then she can only gain the buff on 3rd FB
Okay i get it
because 2nd FB is SBS
If you run redhood+alice you can get the attack buff from crown on red hood first rotate
@last geyser@elfin burrow@cedar gustshe's safe, 120%+ reload speed and still at 1 ammo while manualing
Mod never getting the buff in raids 
Good to know
15sec buffs are really long
Mod still gets her S2 and Burst, as well as B1 buffs (Liter or RH) and if running crown/naga, the core buffs.
Mod will be fine lol
does doro even benefit properly outside of reload? buff applies on full burst
and burst is attack damage
What's Doro's CDR without Privaty? Does she hit 15s rotations?
doro still goes with s anis team
You’re saying crown > Tia naga?

4 ammo lines and 8 filler slot?
crown naga > tia naga only for story assuming no charging pressure
S1 is after B3 bursts
For story, I propose crown replacing Tia, keeping Naga as flex slot for core damage procced by Crown
"activates at the start of full burst"
full burst is after B3 I believe
ye full burst is when the timer is up
Doro
Crown
Sanis
Scarlet
Privaty
Maybe not enought sustain if you have low fps for Crown s2
why waste crown in that team
Scarlet will just drain herself
Crown doesn't have ally heal
crown has better characters to buff
biscuit+poli prob better in most circumstances
lol
Amazing lol
they're expecting crown with doro and marciana
honestly, run helm
helm also has last bullet skill
but it's +crit
doro crown ass helm priv
idk if you really want to burst with helm in a crown team
Someone has been proposing Tia/Rupee, but yeah you'd make Crown her own team in SR
helm's damage is hella bad
Time to skill reset Naga (10/10/1) and Tia (completely) to get skill mats for Crown 
we'll see if this upcoming SR crown can solo sustain and tank nvidia
Still need tia for solo raids
Rip SR lol
if crown can solo tank/sustain then yea no need for helm
crown's taunt needs 860 rounds hit
i think i can 10/10/10 crown on launch i have a few mats saved up
that takes a bit
Same
Same
Same
so who do you run? in the doro crown ass ... priv team?
now the rocks for reroll OL on the other hand 
sr team 5 is in shambles let crown fix that shit
if you need sustain, helm
why pair doro with crown
because people are theorycrafting it
"affect all allies who previously cast their buff" doro previously cast her burst before full burst so doro is in
Make a good team 4 for her
crown won't give reload to doro though cuz doro's on every burst chain
I might want to try Pepper-Crown-xLud-Scar-cdr 
Reload for both burst and non burst
Team 1: Naga
Team 2: Blanc
Team 3: Marciana or Bisc/Poli
Team 4: Crown
Team 5: Rem
Crown in SW team so no more Yulha maldin
Doro snapshot tho, later buffs don't apply?
doro crown just kinda way overkill on reload spd
Rem so close to getting kicked out already
and half of doro's cooldown comes from privaty's ammo cut
doro's exprosion getting buffed is nice
not just reload spd
Works for the full chain burst , so B1 b2 and b3
you see the number stack up in the beginning
since the buff lasts 15s
Resetting novel burst 9. Literally dead
Yeah Novel is pretty dead now
the buffs apply on full burst so the atk buff won't affect doro burst
tia actually doesn't need naga btw. it's naga who needs tia (or anyone with a shield)
Shes still the best detective nikke.
Lasts 15s so with privaty will work for all future bursts
if the boss doesn't have enough parts for biscuit then crown can work in doro team
no healing though
Oh you meant doro burst yeah, affect doro but not doro burst
Tia needs Liter if not Naga
if you can cut enough + enough burst gen then ye
Doro is buffed yeah, but not her burst
doro crown sanis scarlet/ludmilla privaty
unlike the bunnies we can just put tia and naga in different teams
and i say we do it
to fuck over ppl with ocd
only if not parts heavy
depends on the boss really
Scarlet 🚮
some sr has no chip damage
Even with bunnies, Noir is fine on her own
noir solo sucks hard
How bad is she with the Liter cope? I never tried it
Blanc is the needy one
is it time to reset scarlet yet? 
noir is d tier solo

Her burst is terrible either way
Which tbh suggests in Sanis team... Drop Privaty and run electric?? Or just don't run crown with Sanis lol
can't drop privaty for sanis
or off burst damage is terrible for sanis
i mean the jp stream had redhood with slow shots
needs to be tested
Yeah, but if running crown off burst won't get the S1 either, hence commit to electric team instead of sustained Sanis
i wouldn't trust stream kit with what they did with redhood on release
you can if you build an electric team easily doable
a big issue is priv synergy with doro is nuts
half ammo is no joke for cdr
Also S1 buffs work on first full burst 
meta?
i mean it is a 15s atk buff from s1
i don't see how you need a bursty character for that
It says she buffs nikke who use burst skills
liter needs bursty character cause her burst buff is 5s
is naga+crown really gonna be useful?
No, use eyes
We have the skills text
Pot calling the kettle black
huh 
She increases damage of Nikkes using burst
That means X Lud benefits
S anis benefits
Mod doesn't

if the situation allows it then yes,
the shotgun 
:/
It should out damage Tia& Naga so....anytime you're running a single team (Campaign, Tower)

crown gonna be interesting for story tho since mod aoe burst 
to burst down a beefy boss on a campaign stage crown + naga + alice + rh superior combo
rh buff to alice then crown bursts and that lets naga buff alice
alice stocks have never been this high
Crown synergizes with any Nikke that bursts
Crown wants DPS whose damage off burst is trash
Crazy
So setups like Sanis/Privaty which try to have Sanis deal damage without bursting won't work well with crown
It's units like Mod that don't burst that don't synergize with her
Crown powercrept rem?
different teams
nah rem still team 4
Agreed
These are likely the teams. Maybe moving Crown up to team 2 instead of 4 tho lol.
I was theorizing a sr sanis team
I was just disagreeing that X Lud doesn't synergize with Crown, as Crown provides only benefits to X Lud
Just not optimal
Crown also buffs 5 seconds off burst
which might as well be perpetual considering the sanis comp
That's the definition of not synergizing
This enemy benefits us lol
And Dorothy doesn't debuffs Noir, only Noir debuffs Dorothy
Crown Sanis, to be properly synergistic, needs either:
- A CDR who heals for slot 5
- An electric DPS who won't die without heals (like scarlet)
- An ammo halver who isn't Privaty
Synergy is wheb combined efforts beat the efforts of individuals. Noir and Dorothy result in a deificit
Therefore not synergy
So naga doesn’t burst?
No, her core buffs are what's important anyway
Crown bursts and triggers Naga S1
Hmm. Crown attack damage values seem higher than naga
crown prob not great with liter
I see
And Naga also triggers Crown S2 sometimes
No?
too much atk dilution
Then what b1 would you use
cause crown only has atk up
Red hood?
Might go D and save liter for a different team
Crown Modernia SBS/Alice Naga RH <- hard push team?
for SR
Either RH if tryharding hard mode, or any CDR B1 (Liter, D Wife)
specifically
honestly campaign might be better
For D
considering alice + red hood
RH, crown, naga, mod/SBS/alice?
Pretty much yeah
She replaces Tia essentially
For hard mode
So get those dupes for the CP lol
Dupes for cp padding? 
Not worth my entire stash of gems tho
For campaign whatever JK team you currently use just swap Tia for Crown, basically.
If she comes from free pulls, I won’t complain
For UR/SR make her team 2, move bunnies to team 3, Sanis to team 4, I guess
She's getting mileage and i dip. Couldn't care less abt summoning on pilgrim banner
She'll out damage bunnies won't she?
Hence team 2
I'm saying give her the bunnies B1
What cube y'all recommend?
Yes
if you really wanna find non-overlapping buffs or non-diminishing returns, doro is the best because doro has parts damage
Chime , point 1 and 3 problem solve. LOL
something that crown doesn't give
Crown & Rapunzel should give more buffs than bunnies right? So give them the team 2 B1 and B3
As a simple example
So is crown shield a Tia shield or a Blanc shield?
Is there any good B1 dps? Volume is technically an attacker give Crown her lollll
Exactly
All B1 do shit all damage
Doro has high potential but needs a CDR healer or ammo halver healer, to work best with crown (burst every 15 sec)
Taking Doro, Helm & Privaty is too much cope
I mean skills that scale off final atk damage might work assuming you can overlap the buffs
i'm looking at b1 roster atm, there's too many 40s cd
and out of the 20s one, a lot of them are just raw buffers
Noise/another 40sec healer maybe? Is that an option?
what if crown self healing buff lines up with doro burst
Again B1 DPS are a myth right now
then no helm needed anyway
Maybe in future
soda 
That will be a viable crown team
soda is mg and will get caster atk buff from crown = wooo!
soda also heals
I'm cooking boys
she got two type of offensive ebuff? ayo wtf

pepper dmg come from hef burst right? its a bit hard to buff her nuke damage
Moran + Rosanna
Should I reset naga and move her burst books to crown?
To summarise for new people to thread the state of crown's kit
reset tia
10/10/4
You still want Tia/Naga for SR and UR lol
Reset novel
And missiles tower, I guess
Oh right
i leveled up rosanna for burst tech in pvp but using her changes nothing so she's gone
Why are people so quick to reset units still being used in ur sr lol
Ok. No resetting Tia naga then
i will reset scarlet she's been killed off for the last time
Doro give noir CDR though
this is so circular
I forgot about raids
Reset whoever your team 5 B2 used to be (e.g. Novel)
any1 still using nier characters?
Is she good on pvp or nah
no
we believe in fraud watch
mg ass
SWs time is up now too
Taunt/invicibility takes too long 
PvP? Maybe for a meme defence team aiming for time limit lol
you know its funny devs tried to buff diesel kit as b2 taunter then crown casually have invul in her kit 
I need to reset elegg, she eat too much skillbooks for her to not have place in doro team 💀
we need ol reset too ngl
give back my credits
My helm with two OL....
crown doesn't need any OL
Crept twice
she does though no?
what OL
caster's attack, MG
Cp padding for tower still matters
its not casters attack?
She needs OL level 5, for lines just max ammo for faster stack building
well trash lvl5 OL is da wae then
ahh eell the Ammo IG for S2 and VP padding
Caster atk not casters final atk
oh
In what way is CDR a debuff to Noir
Who has the lowest attack - supports or defenders?
defender
i mean CDR for any nikke is inheritly a buff
so whatever conversation they was having is just circular
since doro give that to noir
Crown needs all the ammo available, or maybe find middleground where she did good dps with enough ammo rolls
surely crown will do damage she is mg
Wouldn’t u need ammo for s2?
Like having her reload every 300 shots sounds like a waste of efficiency
Okay now i understand, i have too much shit in my head right now, having a hard time reading
Rupee S1 time ammo would be nice yes
no stress champ🧎
Looks like crown skills wants 10/10/10?
this is not a meme thread
10/10/10 seems to be the safe choice if youre on a budget
meme is good though
anything related to Crown is allowed Afaik
memes funny but yea keep memes to regular channels
No it was a joke 
Yeah, I’ve since realized I still need Tia naga at full strength for missilis tower and raids
Resetting Novel is a decent idea tho
Tried to sketch out the new 5 teams B1&B2, in order of damage:
- D Wife & JK
- Liter & Bunnies
- Volume & Crown (& Rapunzel)
- Doro & Marci or Bisc/Poli
- Miranda & Rem & Treasure Laplace
(for sure)
The units I have on the reset list are probably these:
Wait for the next SR boss to be the one that targets with a one hit KO strike, and Crown has a perfectly aligned taunt/invincible cycle which intercepts it every time 
Laplace beating SW? 
tbf Novel is beyond cooked after crown
unless nee player
Treasure Laplace gonna be broken for sure (I'm memeing with team 5)
btw there is no way crown S2 "when recovery taken effect" can be triggered from other source of heal right?
if yes.... damn pepper stonks
between JK Bunnies Crown and Rem now
Just wait for my Liter/Crown/Rupee/RH/MW comp 
Yes it can be, it's the same as Nero's. Identical wording
Yup
But people already tried hard to make Nero buff work
Though Nero buff had such a short duration it was annoying. Also didn't help that the goal was to stack it to max. At least Crown's S2 atk dmg buff doesn't need stacking
Problem with Pepper is CDR tho
Dolla doesn't need to burst atleast
iirc if everyone in the team is at full HP, targerted heals will trigger from left to right, 1/2/3/4/5
so put your crown at pos 1
add sakura and run 2-1-2 
Shelm too, and next SR is all but confirmed iron weak
Pepper wants to burst, while Rapunzel doesn't care
Pepper
Crown + Shelm
Something something
^^
That's a good tip
Plus Pepper without Privaty is eh
My reset plans
well crown buff is 7 sec so no privaty still can maintain buff
heal output though, well XD
resetting 4-4-4 is a waste of unistallers
ayo resting Ruppe?!
I wonder who one of those are 
not enough return
Did folks already rule out Doro + Crown + Summer Anis + Helm + Privaty? This any good?
Anyone higher I still use or have already reset lol
brother you have believed this long in Ruppe just carry on like that
If you have no higher invested units to reset, it's no biggie
The issue is Sanis doesn't get Crown S1 off burst
So it's mid
I'm so careful on alt about using skills that 4/4/4 are usually what I do xD
My reset plans are pretty bare cause I’m generally pretty efficient in resource allocation
Novel is done though
I've held on but I'm out of other people to reset and I never use her lol
B-b-b-but she gets DEF!
I think people don't wanna slot her with non b3 dps especially ones with sustained damage kinda wasting her buff
bursting on Priv instead of a dps have opportunity cost
Ahhh next Raid is iron weak too
Shelm good next raid too
I think SW will be better with Bunnies + Mod this time
for whenever the cope team is

i personally think xlud might be good candidate for crown buff
her damage is just consistent eveb outside burst
Depends on how good pierce is tho
SW Maxwell back on the table
Maxwell with RH, no?
I tell you what, before I reset I'll see how well:
XRupee/Doro/Crown/Sanis/Scarlet
Works. Maybe between XRupee and crown scarlet won't die / XRupee will actually deal damage between Sanis and Crown buffs.
And I won't need any reload on Sanis so I guess I can give her uhhhh hit rate cube???
holy shit i forgot this

should be ez


