#[Crown] New Unit Megathread

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agile beacon
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Indeed

mortal quarry
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peppa pig

hoary adder
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guess who

elfin burrow
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How does Nero work with Rem's shared healing?

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Mainly for curiousity not actual cooking

agile beacon
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So once and never after, afaik, also.. Rem is a lifeleech

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She’s not casting heals, she’s leeching HP and sharing

elfin burrow
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E.g. if Rem shares healing between Nero and a self healer

agile beacon
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But if someone tried to heal (like Rapunzel + Rem combo) I have no idea

sinful aurora
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for the core dmg

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Crown may not bring much like Naga Tia, but she's less slot hungry

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and remember, Crown herself is a DPS

clever sand
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Crow

sinful aurora
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not like Tia Naga who deal 1 dmg

clever sand
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...

agile beacon
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I think she brings an insane amount of utility tbh, and reload speed seems to be kinda discounted by people atm

placid elbow
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Depends if in priv comp, she got 100% reload spd

agile beacon
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But I think the reload speed is pretty awesome to have

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And her buff durations are 15s…

sinful aurora
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it lasts forever

elfin burrow
sinful aurora
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only the 20% AD has 50% uptime

hoary adder
royal heath
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it's basically perma buffs for B1 and B2 high uptime for B3s

hoary adder
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fuck I need to c7

sinful aurora
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dunno why you ask for another Liter

agile beacon
severe yew
sinful aurora
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but well, you have your next Liter

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impossible to be replaced

peak solar
sinful aurora
small bloom
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Guys, she can also be slapped with S. Anis

worthy hemlock
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Time to use Crown to buff my Rupee

reef field
elfin burrow
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Rupee & Crown will have fasted invulnerability cycle since she's iron lol

worthy hemlock
mortal quarry
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she's going into my sanis team. Doro can fuck herself for avoiding me for so long

clever sand
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Liter crown Rh mw/snow/xlud rapunzel

severe yew
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litter , crown, RH, snow white, maxwell. Iron Woman team

worthy hemlock
rocky mantle
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40s 💀

severe yew
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wait is rapunzel iron ?

worthy hemlock
slender tulip
rocky mantle
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Oh

worthy hemlock
elfin burrow
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Crown wants healing is the main issue with most teams

rocky mantle
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Then god mode

elfin burrow
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Our best healers (aka buff & heal) are all B2

rocky mantle
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🤌

severe yew
worthy coral
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This is my kingdom cum

sinful aurora
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the 20% Attack Damage, even on herself, has 50% uptime

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it's okay enough

hoary adder
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PEPPER AAAAAAA

worthy hemlock
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?/Crown/Rupee/dps/dps surely I’m cooking

agile beacon
hoary adder
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BUT CDR DOKO

reef field
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50% uptime? fuck that healer going 3 dps

agile beacon
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It should be still effective

hoary adder
royal heath
peak solar
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So Chime will be b1 cdr with heal kekw

mortal quarry
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just use dolla

elfin burrow
hoary adder
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goddamn so much synergy with pepper tbh
pepper also want reload speed because she's last bullet

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and pepper has nuke scaling with atk

agile beacon
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Same deal with Blanc & Noir or Tia & Naga anyway

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2 slots to carry the team, just we have flexibility with Crown’s partner

mortal quarry
severe yew
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aight soo what we looking for the Rolls

hoary adder
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pepper crown b3 b3 dolla/shelm insert

royal heath
hoary adder
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fuck it

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manual play pepper

severe yew
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elem % , reload , ammo ? i dun think atk% is that much worth since low attack

hoary adder
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have heals all day

elfin burrow
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Dolla without using her burst? Lol

hoary adder
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kinda have to, just for cdr

worthy hemlock
elfin burrow
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Just throw in Sakura or some shit at that point

severe yew
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nvm

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swap it to atk%

sinful aurora
next sapphire
sinful aurora
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so, 50%

hoary adder
royal heath
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yeah just shuffle your B1 CDRs around

hoary adder
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crown's buffs are so flexible, you can put in any b1 cdr

agile beacon
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Probably yes, if you think about it before Crown even shows up we already had teams going. 5 teams.

royal heath
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she's dead ass good as a sole B2 buffer

agile beacon
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Now we have her, time to use Crown

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(Soon)

placid elbow
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Yes, i heard shes pretty decent with fairy tale model no. 2

reef field
peak solar
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So, without healer she will have her buff uptime 50%. Maybe 3rd dps will be better

rocky mantle
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so liter crown 3 dps¿?

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kekw

mortal quarry
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but peppa is your 3rd dps

elfin burrow
mortal quarry
agile beacon
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So uh does this work out well if we replace Leona in Tove SG squad?

hollow notch
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better build rapunzel and spam her RL KEKL

severe yew
royal heath
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honestly it's fine to not rely on a healer for her assuming your crown doesn't flop over from damage inb4c+7requiredlike2b

sinful aurora
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just do a simple math

  • Crown alone = Naga + Tia
hollow notch
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but rapunzel gotta full charge every 7s
just full charge first or last shot then spam KEKL

worthy hemlock
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Liter/Crown/Rupee/SBS/Alice trolley

reef field
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crown sss tier b2

sinful aurora
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with 2.5% dmg buff more

royal heath
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like gatrix was saying her 20.99% attack damage buff has 50% uptime

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that's dam good for her own solo healing

peak solar
sinful aurora
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yeah, I don't understand why she's 20s cd, but well, you are asking for it

severe yew
sinful aurora
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yep

worthy hemlock
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Full Iron time: Liter/Crown/Rupee/RH/MW

clever sand
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Gatrix gimmi a hug

peak solar
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Ni core dmg as well

next sapphire
worthy hemlock
clever sand
severe yew
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now 1 flex slot run any healer

reef field
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1 dmg in hard campaign kekw

hoary adder
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nah you run pepper as main b1 and then flex slot as cdr

mortal quarry
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ok so what OLs does she need

hoary adder
agile beacon
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I’m looking forward to her in campaign. Liter + Crown KEKL

placid elbow
hoary adder
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RH+crown bruv

hollow notch
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gotta calculate the lost of getting recovery effect every around 10s+ instead of 7s if not using rapunzel or yuni or pepper single heal targeted crown

sinful aurora
hollow notch
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cuz most other healer give buff once every burst etc.

sinful aurora
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they only actually last 67% of the time

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for Crown, all her buffs can last forever

placid elbow
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Most dmg done during fbm anyways Copium

sinful aurora
elfin burrow
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Crown & Biscuit is probably good enough uptime tbh, especially if she takes too much damage while not invulnerable

agile beacon
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The unknown influence is going to be her taunt + invincible. If it works out really well, she might be able to absorb a lot of blocked damage. Or she might not. But there’s definitely one fight where this is extremely useful when timed well - Mother Whale’s elite spawn wave

zealous seal
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need a healer for this or her 1st part from s2 also work?

agile beacon
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Heck Crown being MG even counters some of Mother Whale’s mechanics…

hollow notch
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crown doesn't work well with biscuit cuz she's defender

elfin burrow
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S2 works but only triggers every ~15 seconds

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Wouldn't crown get Biscuit's defender buff twice?

sinful aurora
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may be a healer can proc it once a while

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Marciana buff is treated as recovery effect

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the lifesteal

hollow notch
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biscuit heal attacker after full burst
while giving supporter lifesteal from burst
but defender need to be hit to lower than 50% hp to get heal limited to twice per battle

mortal quarry
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does pepper's burst snapshot her atk?

sinful aurora
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the buff, not the heal

agile beacon
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How often does she cast it?

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5 SG shots?

zealous seal
agile beacon
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Oh

zealous seal
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9

cedar gust
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Crown ATK buff lasts enought to Buff Dorothy Buff right?

mortal quarry
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yes

placid elbow
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Ye

elfin burrow
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If you have 6 seconds CDR right?

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Oh wait S1 buff

zealous seal
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pain should be ez

agile beacon
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I found a way to get 100% uptime on Crown S2 dmg buff

elfin burrow
agile beacon
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Manual play Frima and do one fully charged shot every 5 seconds

placid elbow
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Rapunani

mortal quarry
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@last geyseryeah I'm legit thinking about OLing my peppa

hollow notch
boreal junco
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if rh does full chain will she get 3 times the buff ? 👀

royal heath
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yes

hoary adder
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the downsides of using pepper
no cdr or forced to slot in idle cdr
need to manual play her all the time

rocky mantle
royal heath
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64%x3

elfin burrow
boreal junco
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lmaoo

rigid plover
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numbers makes it seem like a must pull, no?

reef field
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100% must pull

rigid plover
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seems pretty damn strong

reef field
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can't skip

visual crater
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now it's time for smary to have permanent uses

boreal junco
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I love having gems when good units come

visual crater
rocky mantle
rigid plover
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all those atk up stacks are insane

reef field
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i can ditch tia naga alice rh mod comp now and use dkw crown alice rh mod

lone notch
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what is % of priv reload speed up?

rocky mantle
reef field
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crown is so good she's story team meta

hollow notch
lone notch
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what the fuck

royal heath
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actually thinking about it how DOES her buff for S1 work would it stack differently depending on your burst role? (1,2,3) or does it not stack at all meaning if you burst faster than every 15s you could have 2x attack up buffs on B1 and B2 roles NovelThink

lone notch
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so she got 45% reload speed with all those trucks of atk up?

rigid plover
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liter/rh + crown S1 + crown burst + rh

also according to that wording, that should be an individual shield for everyone right?

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aria has the same wording for her burst

agile beacon
# hollow notch use yuni leave her auto lol

Probably doesn’t work because once the lifeleech buff is applied, it has a duration for 10 seconds, then Yuni would be refreshing the buff. So it’d only count as Recovery once at the initial application. Never for the refreshes

hollow notch
reef field
lean canyon
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Funny how crown just powecrept Rem in less than a month KEKL

rigid plover
slender tulip
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okay question: how does her S2 trigger? how does it remove the stacks? you just gotta not shoot?

visual crater
rigid plover
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tbf it's the 1.5 anni pilgrim

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ofc it has to be busted

royal heath
reef field
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we have a nikke that does this and she's dead

visual crater
rigid plover
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since it's also caster's atk, that means MLB and OL gear matter on crown

visual crater
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so 860 shot for the stack to be removed

slender tulip
elfin burrow
royal heath
rocky mantle
placid elbow
rigid plover
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I was gonna mlb crown anyway just for burst animation but hey extra stats and atk up boost justifies it more thumbsupanis

visual crater
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for s1 buff increase

placid elbow
royal heath
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element damage is always for DPS purposes and she is technically MG

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with good buffs sooo

visual crater
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oh, it doesn't?

zealous seal
royal heath
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very nice bonus if anything

zealous seal
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it just base stat

visual crater
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ok, only ammo up then

rocky mantle
lean canyon
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When it says caster's it means base atk only

royal heath
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also yes you at least want to level 5 her OL gear

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for those attack stats to affect her S1

rocky mantle
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KEKW

placid elbow
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Casters atk not casters final atk

royal heath
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it does

elfin burrow
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OL doesn't but gear does

placid elbow
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Like the flat base stats

hoary adder
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the stats from leveling gear affects, the ol lines don't

formal raven
royal heath
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nah still T5 material

visual crater
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there's T5

cedar gust
storm birch
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attack buff on the 2nd skill always active if she got heal from other sources right?

elfin burrow
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Rem still good for RL allies, she's no longer the Marciana replacement tho lol

placid elbow
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T6

visual crater
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T1-T4 is pretty much occupied at this raate

lean canyon
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She just got her t1-3 card revocked

elfin burrow
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Rem will return next time we get a good RL DPS

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I wouldn't be skill resetting her just yet

lean canyon
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We just need more cdr units B1 Or B3 now

placid elbow
frozen charm
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who here had the 40s JP post

royal heath
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there you go

rigid plover
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reading comprehension -100%

lone notch
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wait for chime with cdr b1

twin glacier
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Did jp twitter reupload the kit?

rigid plover
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thankfully crown is 20s B2

cedar gust
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B3 CDR Heal SG Copium

twin glacier
royal heath
twin glacier
twin glacier
rigid plover
twin glacier
royal heath
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yes

rigid plover
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so it should be 20s

lone notch
rigid plover
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yepyep

twin glacier
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Ohhhhh thank god

rigid plover
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dragon mommy getting replaced

frozen charm
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Doesn't her skill 1 sound shit when paired with units that need to burst to deal huge damage, can someone correct me if im wrong?

rigid plover
lone notch
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now we can bury nihli alive

frozen charm
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so like u cant pair her with RH, alice, sbs etc

severe yew
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oh shiet i dint even thought about the buff last long enough for dorothy to make use of it

twin glacier
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Rip this meme

rigid plover
twin glacier
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Dragon mommy stonks down NihilisterShocked

frozen charm
lone notch
frozen charm
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because if a 40s burst 3 bursts like RH

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she becomes the "previous" unit to burst

elfin burrow
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Hold up y'all....

Can we just swap Tia for Crown? Naga will get shield from Crown for her S1, and will give heals for Crown's S2

frozen charm
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the next rotation will be a different b3

slender tulip
rigid plover
visual crater
frozen charm
placid elbow
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Both b2

twin glacier
visual crater
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you rather put crown on different team

mortal quarry
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she's missing cover repair, 3/10 WOULD NOT ROLL

royal heath
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if you are actively part of the full burst chain you get attack buff if you aren't part of the chain you get def buff

rigid plover
royal heath
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that's it

frozen charm
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got it thanks

clever sand
rigid plover
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so if you use RH B3 to go into full burst, she gets the atk up

elfin burrow
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Is Crown gonna give more than Tia?

royal heath
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and if you use RH 3x full burst that's 3x stacks supposedly

storm birch
elfin burrow
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You're still getting the core damage from Naga

royal heath
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technically we need to test that still

storm birch
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crown s1 only give def up right

placid elbow
elfin burrow
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Oh I thought Crown burst gave allies shield tho

storm birch
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ahh okay

placid elbow
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She do

elfin burrow
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Which will proc the core damage buff that makes JK so broken

peak solar
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Naga powercreep?

rigid plover
elfin burrow
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Crown/Naga might be the new hard mode team lol?

storm birch
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i read the sentence wrongly

rigid plover
slender tulip
clever sand
peak solar
elfin burrow
agile beacon
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I posted in wrong chat

elfin burrow
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You still bring Naga for her core buff

clever sand
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She replace both

agile beacon
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But I wanted to ask if individual shields stack

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As in if you used Tia -> Liter -> Crown bursts

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What happens then?

peak solar
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Fck, evil plans are ruined

lone notch
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https://arca.live/b/nikketgv/104284344?mode=best&p=1
alice with crown is 12.1% stronger than with tiga
sbs with crown is slightly weaker than with tiga since her carrot is got robbed after others burst

hoary adder
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you can check atm by using tia blanc

elfin burrow
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I'm saying that Crown & Naga is almost certainly going to powercreep Tia & Naga, for same slot cost

hoary adder
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and see how the shields interact

agile beacon
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I don’t think that qualifies properly right? Isn’t Blanc shield umbrella?

hoary adder
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or tia aria

elfin burrow
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Tia Aria will test it

agile beacon
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That’d work to test it, yeah

placid elbow
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Or fuckwang

boreal junco
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instead of having crown on another team

elfin burrow
royal heath
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well

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tia rupee IS a thing

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not as good as naga obviously

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but it works

boreal junco
vapid scroll
boreal junco
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I havent used jks in story since they have less cp than my other units

elfin burrow
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Current hard mode uses JK because core buff is too good to ignore.

I'm saying Crown & Naga still gets all the core buff, plus all Crown's buffs

hoary adder
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yea but...

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oh well

clear portal
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This is it for Tia?

royal heath
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no Tia Naga is still the main duo

placid elbow
hollow notch
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can crown create shield proc naga's condition for generate shield(which tia does)?

royal heath
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that was just theory crafting for hard campaign pushing

clear portal
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Ahh I see

elfin burrow
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Even for B1 CDR campaign teams Crown&Naga should be better

royal heath
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BUT you CAN technically run Tia + Rupee and Crown + Naga as well

elfin burrow
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It's only in multi team scenarios (UR, SR) you'd use Tia I think

royal heath
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legit duos that work technically

hollow notch
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create shield = shield on caster and protects everyone
while generate shield = everyone got their own shield HP right?

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so only tia and aria? can proc naga condition? or naga can proc with create shield too?

elfin burrow
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Crown's burst should proc Naga's S1, giving that 80% core damage buff

placid elbow
rocky mantle
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the s2 works with rapunzel healing? or crown must be proc her stacks?

quartz pond
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Ooh those numbers look tasty

royal heath
rocky mantle
royal heath
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works the same way as nero's conditional healing

elfin burrow
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And Naga can be crown's healer, freeing her from Pepper/Rapunzel

peak solar
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Rapunzel heals 2 lowest allies, she can never heal Crown

late bison
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Man, looks like crown will eat up all my skill books sadge

lone notch
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https://arca.live/b/nikketgv/104284842?mode=best&p=1
and this guy is claiming that yuni will be a useful buffer for crown

quartz pond
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Those additional effects turned out very important kek

cedar gust
vapid scroll
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doesn't lifesteal just work as well?

royal heath
clever sand
quartz pond
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Though sadly S1 was indeed caster's stats

clever sand
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Still 10/10/10

hoary adder
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technically for that permanent uptime you just need to proc a heal every 7 sec

cedar gust
mortal quarry
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peppaaa

floral drift
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what if new cube heals ? COPIUM

elfin burrow
placid elbow
rigid plover
hollow notch
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pepper same but 1 target while rapunzel 3 target

royal heath
elfin burrow
royal heath
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anyways like gatrix already mentioned 43 bullets at 60fps with 20 stacks required is 860 shots total = 14.333333 secs

elfin burrow
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I like the Frima Crown meme, maybe her treasure will add CDR and make her relevant lol

royal heath
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so honestly just under 50% uptime for 21% attack damage

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is still amazing by HERSELF

quartz pond
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Looks like she will indeed be becoming the pillar of the 4th team

lone notch
vapid scroll
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would only affect herself and b1

tame swift
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Ok chat how's Crown so far? Is she ultra freaking broken? pepehmmm

tame swift
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Really?

placid elbow
cedar gust
mortal quarry
tame swift
sinful aurora
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What makes Tia Naga a pair?

elfin burrow
quartz pond
jagged canopy
quartz pond
jagged canopy
misty veldt
vapid scroll
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marcianna might have 100% up time

sinful aurora
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you don't burst with Naga

tame swift
elfin burrow
sinful aurora
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120% core dmg is enough

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Naga ATK buff is whatever

plain glen
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???

tame swift
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Does Crown replace bunnies on story teams?

jagged canopy
elfin burrow
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And occasional healing for crown S2 too

plain glen
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so no tia?

elfin burrow
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No tia

tame swift
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Who she replaces anyways?

quartz pond
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Who uses bunnies for campaign anymore? yabai

royal heath
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and again Tia + Rupee and Crown + Naga are legit duos Doro

elfin burrow
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Crown/Naga/B1 CDR/B3/B3

tame swift
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Who the f u use

placid elbow
quartz pond
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JKs

late bison
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especially if crown has 10/10/10, should be a better CP padding than a 10/4/4 tia

tame swift
quartz pond
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Manually play her

jagged canopy
quartz pond
formal raven
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Crown need to be fully invested... damn

lone notch
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do we need 10/10/10?

tame swift
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Who Crown replaces anyways?

royal heath
elfin burrow
quartz pond
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Tia hurts my CP, so getting rid of her would be nice

jagged canopy
lone notch
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fuck

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rip my manuals

tame swift
dapper sleet
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Crowngod

tame swift
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And on raids and story?

quartz pond
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Looks like I may truly MCB after all

jagged canopy
sly bronze
elfin burrow
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For story I think she replaces Tia

jagged canopy
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Another Tialess Naga comp

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Seems pretty good

elfin burrow
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And tbh you probably don't run a healer other than Naga for story comp

sly bronze
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tf?

quartz pond
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Replacing Tia for Crown makes me insanely happy

tame swift
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Her ol subs would he ammo cap, atk and charge speed?

sly bronze
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crown + Naga team is dumb

peak solar
quartz pond
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Charge Speed...?

hoary adder
tame swift
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Misinput

hoary adder
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if her s2 already starts at a high number, can go 10/7/10 or something

tame swift
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Elemental dmg

lone notch
quartz pond
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The usual

elfin burrow
tardy heart
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Rem still have usage. Not many good b2 healer anyway. Still bright for her. Chill

dapper sleet
sly bronze
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actually not dumb

placid elbow
reef field
# tame swift What team

liter/dkw crown alice rh modernia

but liter/dkw crown naga alice rh is also interesting because crown triggers naga's core dmg

reef field
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yes

royal heath
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d killer wife

tame swift
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Tf is this

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Oh

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You guys don't use BS scarlet on story?

rough haven
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Ok. Crown looks meta af

reef field
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nah bs scarlet is worse than those b3

rough haven
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20s b2 with good values

hoary adder
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i haven't reach a wind weak chapter yet

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so no sbs

hollow notch
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if crown don't get hit it's hard for non all allies heal to heal her

elfin burrow
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Crown will get hit by bullets aimed/fired during taunt but hit after taunt

tame swift
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My team rn is doro, bunnies, sbs and rh. Should i replace any?

reef field
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get liter

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replace doro

tame swift
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I have

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Ok

reef field
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get crown replace bunnies

tame swift
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Crown and mod?

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I suppose

reef field
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yeah that works well

hollow notch
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it took crown 43*20 shots to taunt for 5 sec

tame swift
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Or normal scarlet

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Ok thx

royal heath
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assuming 60fps ofc

severe yew
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860 bullet in 60 fps is how long (in seconds)

royal heath
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14.333333

severe yew
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mmmmm

elfin burrow
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How much does Rupee speed that up? Lol

hollow notch
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how about comboing her with buff stacks giver like xmica rupee pepper

cedar gust
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How much does Xmas Mica speed It Up?

sinful aurora
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  • Crown should deal as much as Scarlet non buff against core boss
  • Crown should give 2.5% more offensive buff than Tia + Naga combined
#

20s cd

reef field
#

ppl cry about chime being healer but chime needs to increase mg attack speed

#

that would be balanced

cedar gust
elfin burrow
placid elbow
severe yew
#

without her 100% atk buff

#

lol

sinful aurora
#

but nothing else, no Liter, Doro, Novel etc...

placid elbow
#

Oh

#

Aight

hollow notch
mortal quarry
#

But people told me that defenders don't do damage Doro @sinful aurora

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so it's must be true

elfin burrow
#

1 stack every 20 sec lol

hoary adder
#

a stack is a stack boy

elfin burrow
#

Craziest part is we're not even including her huge reload buff in these equations are we? Lol

hoary adder
#

yea reload speed buff is huge for my low ammo alice in hard campaign

vapid scroll
#

crown should be able to proc the core damage from naga, just tested with ether who has the same "creates a shield" keyword and the buff is applied.

late bison
#

more reason for crown naga alice on hard campaign kek

mortal quarry
#

look at admi here and look at crown's kit

#

fucking balanced

reef field
#

alice stocks keep going up

cedar gust
cedar gust
#

But yeah, reload is cool too

mortal quarry
#

she never does if she manual yeah

cedar gust
#

Both 40s

elfin burrow
#

Maybe if reload is so high one frame can do multiple clips? Lol

cedar gust
#

100% reload, Who knows

#

Probably tested

#

On simulacrum with Privaty and cube

sinful aurora
#

when I think of it

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may be her ATK S1 is not that long

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because it must be the B3 that burst

vapid scroll
#

B1 choice will really come down to between Liter or D Killer Wife, Liter will generally be good but using alice+red hood might swing it round

sinful aurora
#

so every other rotation

cedar gust
sinful aurora
#

the buff to Alice, let's say

#

Alice gains buff first, then she can only gain the buff on 3rd FB

cedar gust
#

Okay i get it

sinful aurora
#

because 2nd FB is SBS

cedar gust
#

I'm sleepy

#

I misread

elfin burrow
#

Yeah B3 who don't burst that rotation miss out basically

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Which is fine

vapid scroll
#

If you run redhood+alice you can get the attack buff from crown on red hood first rotate

mortal quarry
#

@last geyser@elfin burrow@cedar gustshe's safe, 120%+ reload speed and still at 1 ammo while manualing

placid elbow
#

Mod never getting the buff in raids kekw

sinful aurora
#

lmao

#

that's true

vapid scroll
#

15sec buffs are really long

elfin burrow
#

Mod still gets her S2 and Burst, as well as B1 buffs (Liter or RH) and if running crown/naga, the core buffs.

Mod will be fine lol

slender tulip
#

does doro even benefit properly outside of reload? buff applies on full burst PepeHmm and burst is attack damage

elfin burrow
#

What's Doro's CDR without Privaty? Does she hit 15s rotations?

vapid scroll
#

doro still goes with s anis team

rough haven
dapper sleet
zealous seal
#

BlancStare 4 ammo lines and 8 filler slot?

vapid scroll
#

crown naga > tia naga only for story assuming no charging pressure

slender tulip
vapid scroll
#

S1 is after B3 bursts

elfin burrow
slender tulip
#

"activates at the start of full burst"

vapid scroll
#

full burst is after B3 I believe

slender tulip
#

ye full burst is when the timer is up

cedar gust
#

Doro
Crown
Sanis
Scarlet
Privaty

Maybe not enought sustain if you have low fps for Crown s2

reef field
#

why waste crown in that team

slender tulip
reef field
#

crown has better characters to buff

quartz pond
vapid scroll
#

biscuit+poli prob better in most circumstances

reef field
#

lol

elfin burrow
lone notch
#

they're expecting crown with doro and marciana

hoary adder
#

honestly, run helm

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helm also has last bullet skill

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but it's +crit

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doro crown ass helm priv

vapid scroll
#

idk if you really want to burst with helm in a crown team

elfin burrow
#

Someone has been proposing Tia/Rupee, but yeah you'd make Crown her own team in SR

vapid scroll
#

helm's damage is hella bad

quartz pond
#

Time to skill reset Naga (10/10/1) and Tia (completely) to get skill mats for Crown heh

hoary adder
#

we'll see if this upcoming SR crown can solo sustain and tank nvidia

vapid scroll
#

Still need tia for solo raids

hoary adder
#

if crown can solo tank/sustain then yea no need for helm

quartz pond
#

I jest xD

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Both JKs are useful on their own

vapid scroll
#

crown's taunt needs 860 rounds hit

reef field
#

i think i can 10/10/10 crown on launch i have a few mats saved up

vapid scroll
#

that takes a bit

quartz pond
#

Same

elfin burrow
#

Same

placid elbow
#

Same

hoary adder
#

so who do you run? in the doro crown ass ... priv team?

late bison
#

now the rocks for reroll OL on the other hand sadge

reef field
#

sr team 5 is in shambles let crown fix that shit

hoary adder
#

if you need sustain, helm

vapid scroll
#

why pair doro with crown

hoary adder
#

because people are theorycrafting it

clever sand
# slender tulip

"affect all allies who previously cast their buff" doro previously cast her burst before full burst so doro is in

elfin burrow
#

Make a good team 4 for her

reef field
#

crown won't give reload to doro though cuz doro's on every burst chain

late bison
#

I might want to try Pepper-Crown-xLud-Scar-cdr kekw

placid elbow
reef field
#

oh

#

was it def for non burst?

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lol

elfin burrow
#

Team 1: Naga
Team 2: Blanc
Team 3: Marciana or Bisc/Poli
Team 4: Crown
Team 5: Rem

lilac spoke
#

Crown in SW team so no more Yulha maldin

slender tulip
vapid scroll
#

doro crown just kinda way overkill on reload spd

tardy heart
#

Rem so close to getting kicked out already

vapid scroll
#

and half of doro's cooldown comes from privaty's ammo cut

reef field
#

doro's exprosion getting buffed is nice

vapid scroll
#

not just reload spd

reef field
#

not sure many characters can buff doro's burst

#

it's so delayed

vapid scroll
#

doro's burst is calculated when applied

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not at the end

reef field
#

ah that's shit

#

still no buff

hoary adder
#

first burst won't be buffed

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but next one can be

clever sand
vapid scroll
#

you see the number stack up in the beginning

hoary adder
#

since the buff lasts 15s

tardy heart
#

Resetting novel burst 9. Literally dead

elfin burrow
#

Yeah Novel is pretty dead now

copper shell
#

Technically you can make Tia work with rupee

slender tulip
hoary adder
#

tia actually doesn't need naga btw. it's naga who needs tia (or anyone with a shield)

placid elbow
elfin burrow
vapid scroll
#

if the boss doesn't have enough parts for biscuit then crown can work in doro team

#

no healing though

clever sand
quartz pond
#

Tia needs Liter if not Naga

slender tulip
clever sand
#

Doro is buffed yeah, but not her burst

vapid scroll
#

doro crown sanis scarlet/ludmilla privaty

reef field
#

unlike the bunnies we can just put tia and naga in different teams

#

and i say we do it

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to fuck over ppl with ocd

vapid scroll
#

only if not parts heavy

slender tulip
#

how smart is scarlet tho in there

#

since she won't get any heal

#

she'll just drop

vapid scroll
#

depends on the boss really

clever sand
#

Scarlet 🚮

vapid scroll
#

some sr has no chip damage

quartz pond
#

Even with bunnies, Noir is fine on her own

reef field
#

noir solo sucks hard

elfin burrow
#

How bad is she with the Liter cope? I never tried it

quartz pond
#

Blanc is the needy one

slender tulip
#

is it time to reset scarlet yet? kappa

reef field
#

noir is d tier solo

quartz pond
vapid scroll
#

why do you need burst damage?

#

15s buffs

quartz pond
#

Her burst is terrible either way

reef field
#

rouge save blanc please

#

get rid of your sister

vapid scroll
#

?

#

you just have to had to use that burst once

#

going by the wording

elfin burrow
#

Which tbh suggests in Sanis team... Drop Privaty and run electric?? Or just don't run crown with Sanis lol

vapid scroll
#

can't drop privaty for sanis

#

or off burst damage is terrible for sanis

#

i mean the jp stream had redhood with slow shots

#

needs to be tested

elfin burrow
quartz pond
#

Uh no

#

Red Hood who can burst multiple times was called out

vapid scroll
#

i wouldn't trust stream kit with what they did with redhood on release

reef field
#

half ammo is no joke for cdr

quartz pond
#

Also S1 buffs work on first full burst thonk

soft loom
#

meta?

quartz pond
#

Nothing in there says that

#

Most of that is same as stream

vapid scroll
#

i mean it is a 15s atk buff from s1

#

i don't see how you need a bursty character for that

quartz pond
#

It says she buffs nikke who use burst skills

vapid scroll
#

liter needs bursty character cause her burst buff is 5s

quartz pond
#

Not Nikkes whose damage is concentrated in bursts

#

Yes

lone notch
#

is naga+crown really gonna be useful?

quartz pond
#

No, use eyes

vapid scroll
#

We have the skills text

quartz pond
#

Pot calling the kettle black

vapid scroll
#

huh huh

quartz pond
#

She increases damage of Nikkes using burst

#

That means X Lud benefits

#

S anis benefits

#

Mod doesn't

vapid scroll
severe yew
quartz pond
#

Both benefit

slender tulip
#

the shotgun YEPJAM

elfin burrow
lone notch
slender tulip
quartz pond
#

You said Crown doesn't synergize X Lud

#

not that Alice benefits more

reef field
#

to burst down a beefy boss on a campaign stage crown + naga + alice + rh superior combo

rh buff to alice then crown bursts and that lets naga buff alice

alice stocks have never been this high

quartz pond
#

Crown synergizes with any Nikke that bursts

elfin burrow
#

Crown wants DPS whose damage off burst is trash

elfin burrow
#

So setups like Sanis/Privaty which try to have Sanis deal damage without bursting won't work well with crown

quartz pond
#

It's units like Mod that don't burst that don't synergize with her

tame swift
#

Crown powercrept rem?

vapid scroll
#

different teams

reef field
#

nah rem still team 4

quartz pond
#

Agreed

vapid scroll
#

but you need multiple teams

#

rh already on other teams for ur and sr

elfin burrow
vapid scroll
#

I was theorizing a sr sanis team

quartz pond
#

I was just disagreeing that X Lud doesn't synergize with Crown, as Crown provides only benefits to X Lud

#

Just not optimal

vapid scroll
#

and you came in with the comment

quartz pond
#

It does tho kek

#

You agreed X Lud synergizes with Crown. Just less than Alice

vapid scroll
#

Crown also buffs 5 seconds off burst

rocky lake
quartz pond
#

Dorothy and Noir don't synergize

#

Noir literally hurts Dorothy

vapid scroll
#

which might as well be perpetual considering the sanis comp

quartz pond
#

That's the definition of not synergizing

tame swift
cedar gust
#

And Dorothy doesn't debuffs Noir, only Noir debuffs Dorothy

elfin burrow
#

Crown Sanis, to be properly synergistic, needs either:

  • A CDR who heals for slot 5
  • An electric DPS who won't die without heals (like scarlet)
  • An ammo halver who isn't Privaty
quartz pond
#

Synergy is wheb combined efforts beat the efforts of individuals. Noir and Dorothy result in a deificit

#

Therefore not synergy

elfin burrow
#

Crown bursts and triggers Naga S1

rough haven
#

Hmm. Crown attack damage values seem higher than naga

vapid scroll
#

crown prob not great with liter

rough haven
#

I see

elfin burrow
#

And Naga also triggers Crown S2 sometimes

rough haven
#

No?

vapid scroll
#

too much atk dilution

rough haven
#

Then what b1 would you use

vapid scroll
#

cause crown only has atk up

rough haven
#

Red hood?

vapid scroll
#

Might go D and save liter for a different team

slender tulip
#

Crown Modernia SBS/Alice Naga RH <- hard push team?

vapid scroll
#

for SR

elfin burrow
vapid scroll
#

specifically

#

honestly campaign might be better

#

For D

#

considering alice + red hood

rough haven
#

RH, crown, naga, mod/SBS/alice?

elfin burrow
#

She replaces Tia essentially

#

For hard mode

#

So get those dupes for the CP lol

reef field
#

i'd rather clear the stage a week later

#

dupes not worth

rough haven
reef field
#

crown also buffs better with dupes

#

that's something nice

rough haven
#

Not worth my entire stash of gems tho

elfin burrow
#

For campaign whatever JK team you currently use just swap Tia for Crown, basically.

rough haven
#

If she comes from free pulls, I won’t complain

elfin burrow
#

For UR/SR make her team 2, move bunnies to team 3, Sanis to team 4, I guess

reef field
#

she's not solo team 2

#

what b1 do u suggest

#

and what b3

tame swift
#

She's getting mileage and i dip. Couldn't care less abt summoning on pilgrim banner

elfin burrow
#

She'll out damage bunnies won't she?

#

Hence team 2

#

I'm saying give her the bunnies B1

tame swift
#

What cube y'all recommend?

elfin burrow
#

Yes

hoary adder
#

if you really wanna find non-overlapping buffs or non-diminishing returns, doro is the best because doro has parts damage

severe yew
hoary adder
#

something that crown doesn't give

elfin burrow
#

Crown & Rapunzel should give more buffs than bunnies right? So give them the team 2 B1 and B3

#

As a simple example

copper shell
#

So is crown shield a Tia shield or a Blanc shield?

elfin burrow
#

Is there any good B1 dps? Volume is technically an attacker give Crown her lollll

#

Exactly

#

All B1 do shit all damage

hoary adder
#

exia after treasure

elfin burrow
#

Doro has high potential but needs a CDR healer or ammo halver healer, to work best with crown (burst every 15 sec)

#

Taking Doro, Helm & Privaty is too much cope

vapid scroll
#

I mean skills that scale off final atk damage might work assuming you can overlap the buffs

hoary adder
#

i'm looking at b1 roster atm, there's too many 40s cd
and out of the 20s one, a lot of them are just raw buffers

elfin burrow
#

Noise/another 40sec healer maybe? Is that an option?

reef field
elfin burrow
#

Again B1 DPS are a myth right now

reef field
#

then no helm needed anyway

elfin burrow
#

Maybe in future

hoary adder
#

soda Kek

elfin burrow
#

That will be a viable crown team

hoary adder
#

soda is mg and will get caster atk buff from crown = wooo!

#

soda also heals

#

I'm cooking boys

elfin burrow
#

Cooking as well as soda does

agile mist
#

she got two type of offensive ebuff? ayo wtf

reef field
#

ye its nuts

#

a whole ass tia on her own and then more buffs on top

worthy coral
elfin burrow
#

That Tia/Naga/crown meme was top tier

#

Mods should pin it

agile mist
#

pepper dmg come from hef burst right? its a bit hard to buff her nuke damage

worthy coral
#

Moran + Rosanna

rough haven
#

Should I reset naga and move her burst books to crown?

elfin burrow
#

To summarise for new people to thread the state of crown's kit

rough haven
#

10/10/4

elfin burrow
copper shell
#

Reset novel

elfin burrow
#

And missiles tower, I guess

rough haven
reef field
#

i leveled up rosanna for burst tech in pvp but using her changes nothing so she's gone

copper shell
#

Why are people so quick to reset units still being used in ur sr lol

rough haven
#

Ok. No resetting Tia naga then

reef field
#

i will reset scarlet she's been killed off for the last time

ocean sapphire
rough haven
elfin burrow
#

Reset whoever your team 5 B2 used to be (e.g. Novel)

reef field
#

any1 still using nier characters?

tame swift
#

Is she good on pvp or nah

reef field
#

no

ocean sapphire
reef field
#

mg ass

ocean sapphire
#

SWs time is up now too

tame swift
elfin burrow
#

PvP? Maybe for a meme defence team aiming for time limit lol

agile mist
#

you know its funny devs tried to buff diesel kit as b2 taunter then crown casually have invul in her kit KEKL

late bison
#

I need to reset elegg, she eat too much skillbooks for her to not have place in doro team 💀

ocean sapphire
#

we need ol reset too ngl

reef field
#

give back my credits

elfin burrow
#

My helm with two OL....

copper shell
#

Just give me rocks

ocean sapphire
#

fr fr

#

they scammed us with Elegg

reef field
#

crown doesn't need any OL

ocean sapphire
#

Crept twice

ocean sapphire
reef field
#

what OL

ocean sapphire
#

caster's attack, MG

copper shell
#

Cp padding for tower still matters

reef field
#

atk% doesn't buff casters atk

#

it's from base

ocean sapphire
#

its not casters attack?

elfin burrow
#

She needs OL level 5, for lines just max ammo for faster stack building

agile mist
ocean sapphire
#

ahh eell the Ammo IG for S2 and VP padding

placid elbow
reef field
#

oh

cedar gust
peak solar
#

Who has the lowest attack - supports or defenders?

agile mist
#

defender

ocean sapphire
#

so whatever conversation they was having is just circular

#

since doro give that to noir

late bison
#

Crown needs all the ammo available, or maybe find middleground where she did good dps with enough ammo rolls

ocean sapphire
#

surely crown will do damage she is mg

copper shell
#

Wouldn’t u need ammo for s2?

reef field
#

yes

#

unless reload fast

copper shell
#

Like having her reload every 300 shots sounds like a waste of efficiency

reef field
#

how much wind up is lost with her reload speed

#

and resil cube

cedar gust
worthy hemlock
rough haven
#

Looks like crown skills wants 10/10/10?

reef field
#

this is not a meme thread

placid elbow
reef field
#

meme is good though

ocean sapphire
#

anything related to Crown is allowed Afaik

scarlet cedar
#

memes funny but yea keep memes to regular channels

quartz pond
rough haven
quartz pond
#

Resetting Novel is a decent idea tho

elfin burrow
#

Tried to sketch out the new 5 teams B1&B2, in order of damage:

  • D Wife & JK
  • Liter & Bunnies
  • Volume & Crown (& Rapunzel)
  • Doro & Marci or Bisc/Poli
  • Miranda & Rem & Treasure Laplace LaplaceBurst (for sure)
rough haven
#

The units I have on the reset list are probably these:

agile beacon
#

Wait for the next SR boss to be the one that targets with a one hit KO strike, and Crown has a perfectly aligned taunt/invincible cycle which intercepts it every time kekw

ocean sapphire
#

unless nee player

elfin burrow
agile mist
#

btw there is no way crown S2 "when recovery taken effect" can be triggered from other source of heal right?

if yes.... damn pepper stonks

ocean sapphire
#

between JK Bunnies Crown and Rem now

worthy hemlock
#

Just wait for my Liter/Crown/Rupee/RH/MW comp hup

agile beacon
quartz pond
#

Yup

agile beacon
#

But people already tried hard to make Nero buff work

#

Though Nero buff had such a short duration it was annoying. Also didn't help that the goal was to stack it to max. At least Crown's S2 atk dmg buff doesn't need stacking

ocean sapphire
#

tbf Nero is a bad unit

quartz pond
#

Problem with Pepper is CDR tho

ocean sapphire
#

Dolla doesn't need to burst atleast

mortal quarry
#

iirc if everyone in the team is at full HP, targerted heals will trigger from left to right, 1/2/3/4/5
so put your crown at pos 1

agile mist
ocean sapphire
#

Shelm too, and next SR is all but confirmed iron weak

quartz pond
#

Pepper wants to burst, while Rapunzel doesn't care

cedar gust
#

Pepper
Crown + Shelm
Something something

ocean sapphire
#

^^

quartz pond
#

Plus Pepper without Privaty is eh

ocean sapphire
#

Surely Crown sustain will help

#

surely

elfin burrow
agile mist
reef field
#

resetting 4-4-4 is a waste of unistallers

ocean sapphire
worthy hemlock
reef field
#

not enough return

agile beacon
#

Did folks already rule out Doro + Crown + Summer Anis + Helm + Privaty? This any good?

elfin burrow
ocean sapphire
quartz pond
#

If you have no higher invested units to reset, it's no biggie

elfin burrow
#

So it's mid

quartz pond
#

I'm so careful on alt about using skills that 4/4/4 are usually what I do xD

copper shell
#

My reset plans are pretty bare cause I’m generally pretty efficient in resource allocation

#

Novel is done though

elfin burrow
quartz pond
ocean sapphire
ocean sapphire
#

bursting on Priv instead of a dps have opportunity cost

copper shell
#

Volume crowns now white

#

That might be pog

ocean sapphire
#

Ahhh next Raid is iron weak too

copper shell
#

Shelm good next raid too

quartz pond
#

I think SW will be better with Bunnies + Mod this time

copper shell
#

for whenever the cope team is

quartz pond
agile mist
#

i personally think xlud might be good candidate for crown buff

her damage is just consistent eveb outside burst

quartz pond
#

Depends on how good pierce is tho

ocean sapphire
#

AliceWoke SW Maxwell back on the table

quartz pond
#

Maxwell with RH, no?

elfin burrow
#

I tell you what, before I reset I'll see how well:

XRupee/Doro/Crown/Sanis/Scarlet

Works. Maybe between XRupee and crown scarlet won't die / XRupee will actually deal damage between Sanis and Crown buffs.

And I won't need any reload on Sanis so I guess I can give her uhhhh hit rate cube???

agile mist