#[Crown] New Unit Megathread

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severe yew
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taunt 3s for such a laughable condition

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is shit

limber trout
sinful aurora
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We have god tier aoe for missilis tower now

limber trout
reef field
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immortality is great even if only 3 seconds

limber trout
agile beacon
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I think that when you burst with Kilo, she puts up a barrier, and then if Kilo lasted long enough with the barrier intact, the barrier explodes… probably. I can’t be sure if this is considered good skill. Imagine if when you bursted with Scarlet, you had to wait 10 seconds for it to hit

Edit: It explodes immediately on burst, as long as she has a barrier up

limber trout
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You're rightt

reef field
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no way kilo is missilis tower meta now

severe yew
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this invicible thing is Noah's level ?

limber trout
elfin burrow
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Wow my Drake/Maxwell days might finally be over for Missilis tower lol

limber trout
reef field
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laplace functions fine for tower

limber trout
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But only for self

agile beacon
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I misunderstood then

limber trout
reef field
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aoe's excellent ofc

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but drake?

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go use laplace

elfin burrow
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Crown & Biscuit would be hilarious in terms of constant invincibility

limber trout
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Bro drake was never relevant in my books

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PvP unit

agile beacon
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… is Crown PvP meta too?

dapper sleet
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no

reef field
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no

limber trout
jovial quartz
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MG

dapper sleet
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whats kilos kit

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aoe missilis?

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i can bench laplace now?

agile beacon
limber trout
jovial quartz
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go put crown in your pvp comp, hope you like getting plunged to bottom tier

reef field
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treasure laplace about to go wild

limber trout
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Bench Laplace

Meta again after treasure

elfin burrow
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Crown in PvP would only be viable if she happens to time perfectly with the end of Noah's burst or something

agile beacon
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I was actually being tempted to OL Laplace

limber trout
dapper sleet
agile beacon
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Waiting for treasure to decide

limber trout
jovial quartz
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dev said they dont really wanna make treasure buff OP, so hold your copium guys lol

reef field
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idk i'm just saying nonsense but i would hold on

limber trout
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I await

agile beacon
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Treasure is released

  • Laplace now fires a persistent beam at all enemies onscreen for 5 seconds
jovial quartz
reef field
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make it chain beam

dapper sleet
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@limber trout

limber trout
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Wtf is thiz

dapper sleet
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decipher the heiroglyphics

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crown

agile beacon
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I think it just said Return to 27.8% somewhere in there

jovial quartz
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You can read rune moons?

limber trout
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I lied

dapper sleet
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wtf does crown restore at the end mean

jovial quartz
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you get to wear a crown, duh

dapper sleet
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this is promising

jovial quartz
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probably means crown is healed

dapper sleet
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i dont see "attack based on caster's attack" meaning we can just MLB lol

jovial quartz
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not core 7? I'm shocked

limber trout
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The numbers I have are

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This

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Lemme tell what's the attack damage buff from burst rq
Wait

hoary adder
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it’s not about being “not sure” comp. it’s about having good sustain/defense in your comp.
crown has 3s invul+taunt that takes 20 stacks to build up. that is crap and not enough to solo sustain the team with no healer.
you’re free to run it against something like land eater/gd that has no damage, but nvidia is gonna hurt for sure (they’ve made all recent SR bosses deal decent-high damage)

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(the team being doro ass)

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unless her shield multiplier is fucking high

dapper sleet
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top raiders arent going to run biscuit just to live

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the only guarantees are

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tia naga and blanc noir combos

hoary adder
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the argument we were having previously was benching biscuit and putting in crown

dapper sleet
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yea and im saying biscuit isnt a starter

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she's on the bench and comes in when shes needed

limber trout
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Normal: 5579
After Crown burst: 6842
After Kilo burst: 13554

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No external buffs other than full burst buff

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  • 22.6% buff from 5579 -> 6842
dapper sleet
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looking more forward to kilo

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tbh

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i cannot invest in epinel

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hmm actually we cant just core 7 kilo

hoary adder
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the SR boss is going to hurt, some sort of sustain will be needed. if not biscuit then you can put in marci/helm/w.e. but crown solo won’t be enough if the 3s duration and 20 stacks requirement stays

limber trout
limber trout
hoary adder
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the downtime is too much. unless boss is ultra like where most of the damage can be synced with her shield or sth and that assumes her shield can protect you from it

dapper sleet
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crown team cud very well be volume crown s.anis helm scarlet

limber trout
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Who would heal our beloved SW

dapper sleet
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||your mom||

limber trout
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Noise is my mom
I approve

dapper sleet
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comping is a bit messy rn tbh

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if crown cud ammo support modernia it wud be fine

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but she cant

limber trout
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A lot if nikkes available noe

jovial quartz
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no one, we continue to mald with sw yulha comp without healing

dapper sleet
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so modernia still tied to noir/priv/xmica

limber trout
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xMidca barely counts as ammo support to me tbh

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40% ammo buff

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Lesser than liter

dapper sleet
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depends if the boss jumps

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if boss jumps

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its a valid ammo support

limber trout
dapper sleet
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is she sitting on the ground?

jovial quartz
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she looks like ultra, no jumping I suppose

limber trout
dapper sleet
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too much reading

limber trout
dapper sleet
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too much watching

limber trout
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Mf

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It seems like kilo is like
The higher her max hp/shield hp
The higher her atk buff

dapper sleet
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watch barrier mean cover

limber trout
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In front of her

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At like
all times

dapper sleet
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r u saying to 10 my tia burst

limber trout
jovial quartz
limber trout
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Where is
Faputa

dapper sleet
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if scaling is decent i might 7 my tia burst

limber trout
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We need her to vent and create a hostile environment against crown

hoary adder
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jk dkw
volume/liter bunnies
doro priv
volume/liter crown
xmica/miranda dolla (miranda for sw)

limber trout
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In 2024 may??

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Tove is here

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Tbh
Tove Leona Marciana sugar mpriv

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It's decent DPS

hoary adder
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cdr doko

jovial quartz
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shot and buried in the ground

limber trout
hoary adder
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also have fun with 5% gacha

limber trout
hoary adder
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how is 5% better than 15%

limber trout
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Because 15% is harder to execute

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5% is pew pew and you're done

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Will probably do 30 successful tries for tove team
Before 1 successful SW yulha

lament orbit
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is kilo basically a budget 2b?

hoary adder
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5% pew pew every fb vs 15% (that can be buffed with crit bonuses like lines, her own s2 etc) gacha every ~30s SW burst

limber trout
elfin burrow
hoary adder
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you use kilo in tower for glasses because mg

lament orbit
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so actually worth building in the long run?

hoary adder
elfin burrow
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Oh I thought kilo in tower for AoE clear

reef field
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kilo looks like a stepping stone

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good cuz free but not for those who have all the meta

jovial quartz
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the fate of free units

hoary adder
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depends on how bunched up the units are

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if spread out yeah sure

hoary adder
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sometimes laplace can clear decently

dapper sleet
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unless kilo has some insane scaling

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she shud be 4 4 4

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your laplace should be 4 4 4 too

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0 OL

elfin burrow
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I mean for starters she's defender B3

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That's historically not a meta combo

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2B at best Crow at worst

dapper sleet
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shiftup give her 1 trillion % scaling on her shield

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instant meta

mortal quarry
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Unless they fix the s2 it is staying at lvl 1 lmao

reef field
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2b did great at launch

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got crept away pretty nicely though i'm not sure if she will ever return in raid

hoary adder
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depends on boss. boss does high st damage that targets highest attack, you can use 2b+healer to keep boss occupied

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it’s just lately both windbringer and nihil are aoe bosses (nihil also targets attacker specificially instead of highest atk)

limber trout
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Check pins

mortal quarry
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fast forward to thursday already

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me2

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literally free money to capitalize on the doro meme

elfin burrow
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So glad I went hard on original Doro banner, didn't realise we'd go so long without another good B1 banner

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D wife probably the next decent one, almost a year later

void hill
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Rh b1

elfin burrow
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RH is 40 sec and has no CDR so she's for very specific comps only

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Definitely not a Liter replacement for filling out a basic 20 sec rotation team

mortal quarry
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yeah but
have you seen her campaign gains

elfin burrow
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True I guess

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Still, the point remains that good 20sec B1 are in high demand and low supply

copper shell
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cdr b1s so important you get like one a year maybe 2

quartz pond
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It's HP Potency, not Max HP

limber trout
quartz pond
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Wait, where was Caster's ATK confirmed?

ocean sphinx
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there's a part of her kit that's healing her when she reaches 20 stacks though

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initial idea was it could be max hp buff expiring, but that doesn't produce a healing number

quartz pond
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There's no Max HP buff

limber trout
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So it's 1000% confirmed caster's ATK

quartz pond
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Except they specifically didn't state that

limber trout
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Ye but it's a very reasonable assumption

quartz pond
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I'd argue the opposite

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They stated Caster's HP in burst

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Why would they say it for one but not the other?

limber trout
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Third ever unit banner with normal ATK buff??

ocean sphinx
quartz pond
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She IS Pilgrim

limber trout
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Tbf

quartz pond
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RH is also a DPS unit

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and an Attacker

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That's a good thing

limber trout
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Ye but surely shiftup doesn't know it pepeOK

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Anyways I put it in
Brackets with question mark

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Cuz it's unsure

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But reasonable assumption

quartz pond
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Fine with me deluok

ocean sphinx
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is there no translation info at all regarding her heal?

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I'm coping that it might be a team heal copege

limber trout
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Anyways it's fucking 4% heal every 26.667s

ocean sphinx
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that sounds too dumb to be true... but judging by low numbers on recent kits, that's quite possible KannaKMS

quartz pond
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No info about heal, no

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The only hint to it is "Additional effects from healing"

limber trout
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No way we're forced to run rapunzel with her right?

quartz pond
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The Famitsu written and spoken descriptions had minor differences, so it can be assumed they weren't reading the "finalized" skills

hoary adder
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you checked if it’s from kilo?

quartz pond
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Kilo is entirely selfish

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Contributes no defences to allies whatsoever from what we've heard/seen

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Just a very tanky AoE nuker

ocean sphinx
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Timing would have to be crazy to be elsewhere

quartz pond
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It's probably a healing effect that occurs when stacks are consumed, like a Stockpile/Swallow combo from Pokemon

ocean sphinx
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Btw any idea if her stacks have duration

limber trout
ocean sphinx
limber trout
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But it's enough time I think
80 bullets should be ez

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1.2s or smthng

quartz pond
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Shouldn't be an issue though since new stack refreshes

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and unlike Rem, she doesn't need to be in burst

elfin burrow
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It will be casters ATK

Shiftup has finally realised that supports whose buffs don't scale on their stats....don't need dupes

limber trout
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Need to shoot
1600 ammo tho..

So one reload is an issue

elfin burrow
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So flat buffs have been phased out for $$$ reasons

quartz pond
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Will still want tons of Max Ammo tho

limber trout
quartz pond
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Yup

limber trout
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Or 3 high rolls

ocean sphinx
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What's the stack duration

quartz pond
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Bastion if not with Priv, Res with Priv

limber trout
quartz pond
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Unless barrier scaling is insane, in which case HP cube may be viabld

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Stack duration is long enough that the sloppy demo gameplay failed to lose stacks

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Safe to say she's not a Power situation

ocean sphinx
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If it's fairly short, makes her 3 sec taunt invuln even more sus

quartz pond
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No shorter than 10s

ocean sphinx
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Very hard to time it just right

elfin burrow
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Real question, can she build stacks during invulnerable

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Also can't wait for bosses to fire slow moving projectiles at crown during taunt, then it ends before they hit her

ocean sphinx
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Yeah that'll be an issue if it's just 3 sec

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Iirc from vid, the invuln needed to end before she could stack, could be wrong though

elfin burrow
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People who use Noah - does it prevent debuffs e.g. Nihilister Burn Damage?

quartz pond
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3 sec taunt puts her at risk of Dieselcide

ocean sphinx
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What's that

limber trout
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She needs to do what diesel does

quartz pond
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During Harvester SR, you had to time burst carefully

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cuz if third laser shot Diesel after FB ended, she'd get OHKO'd

ocean sphinx
quartz pond
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Crown will have similar concerns

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but be harder to time

elfin burrow
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Just pair with biscuit for eternal invulnerability kekw

quartz pond
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Taunt will probably feel like Makima's, sadly

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Too hard for common player to use successfully

ocean sphinx
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Maybe just manual her and force stacks to expire before 20 BlancStare

quartz pond
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But I'm more interested in her barrier burst, honestly

ocean sphinx
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It's not like s2 is offering much rn

clever sand
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Crown born doomed

quartz pond
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If 30+% scaling, she's easily sitting in my SR comps

clever sand
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Not for me, if she is mid one copy 4/4/4

sinful aurora
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Crow and N

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pretty much mid confirm

worthy hemlock
severe yew
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since she is an MG how much dmg would she be contributing

elfin burrow
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I mean she'd benefit from her own ATK buffs I guess

zealous seal
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she not replace anyone in team 1 or 2 right?

vagrant root
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Unless her scaling is really good she just seems mid af

reef field
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i only see bunnies / tia naga being better atm

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third place is not so mid

vagrant root
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That barrier better scale high or she just better have a stupid high amount of hp

severe yew
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she just slot in for team 3 - 5 for raids

vagrant root
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Mid

mortal quarry
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another month with shit rev incoming

sinful aurora
vagrant root
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Just gonna mileage a copy ig

hoary adder
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now I remember how that hand looks familiar

clever sand
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Imagine people skipping rem for crown

vagrant root
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Imagine releasing the first b2 pilgrim in actual ages and she's just eh

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Unless her scaling is insane

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Which its shift up, they fucked up the scaling on their first anni unit so I doubt it

clever sand
vagrant root
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Just gonna mileage her and save actual pulls

mortal quarry
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let the rev speaks for us

severe yew
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When would it be the kit and number release again

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Last time redhood's was super late

slender tulip
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considering the banner starts thursday, probably in 1-2 days

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bay way pretty close too

quartz pond
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For half-anniversary, Dorothy's kit was posted on twitter three days (morning US time) before and Rei's one day (morning US time) before.
For first anniversary, Smol White's kit was posted on twitter two days (night US time) before and Red Hood's one day (morning US time) before.

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No pattern to use sadsimp

slender tulip
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the pattern is: wait for shiftup

quartz pond
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The usual poppo

mortal quarry
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I'm ready for rh part 2

jovial quartz
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I dunno, crown ain't a dps

reef field
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why not

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rh is a support

severe yew
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Dorothy is a Support , Anis is a Support. lol

rocky mantle
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A support of the hell

zealous holly
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Alright trust guys, crown is Bay raid stonks. She just needs to burst once at the start of battle and then crown can keep perma giving her a second def buff and sheild so her cover can stay nice and healthy and also further disapate the hp damage the team takes cuz it should spread the damage everyone's sheilds take out as well due to Bay right?

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Its the ultimate meat sheild combo but actually has b2 offensive buffs now

jovial quartz
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Someone please destroy this man's delusion

zealous holly
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Let a down bad man dream

reef field
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i dig it

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you should go smary so your team has healing and also include biscuit in case bay's cover does get destroyed

clever sand
ocean sphinx
zealous holly
agile beacon
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We already have Bay + Biscuit

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Bay loses cover, burst with Biscuit to rebuild it

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Both are 40s CD, just alternate

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And if Bay loses enough hp, Biscuit heals and invulns her for 5 seconds, twice

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No matter what you do, Bay + any B2 is a massive dps loss

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But she will help team with survival

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It’s to the point that it’s not worth it because you can just use bunnies or schoolgirls for survival

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Oh, raid

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Ignore that last part then

crystal edge
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She seems meh so far. Considering most solo defenders are trash/very situational, this doesnt shock me that much

placid elbow
zealous holly
# agile beacon No matter what you do, Bay + any B2 is a massive dps loss

It is, but i would imagine unless crown numbers are terrible that her+bay would have enough damage absorption/spread to last full 3 minute fight and i would also assume crowns offensive buffs are much better for team than bisuit. So wouldnt it kinda balance out where u get less offense from bringing say, poli in exchange for way more defense, but then you get way more offense in exchange for a drop in defensive buffs from going from buscuit to crown? Like in a privaty team

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Maybe it just comes down to numbers

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Cuz it would depend if bay's cover gets damage before or after her sheild from crown does wouldnt it?

crystal edge
reef field
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bay adds nothing to a team though

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sure she can find herself in a team

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but no reason

zealous holly
# reef field but no reason

I mean doesnt crown+bay kinda do somewhat the same job as poli/biscuit at the same time in a way? Just swaps some utilities out for others or switches the amount of targets. Like poli gives atk buffs, defense buffs to 2 people+herself, and team wide shield+biscuit gives atk buff(but only to supporters), cover repair, and 2 get out of jail free cards of invincibility and its only for defenders.

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But then Bay+crown gives atk buffs, (possibily attack damage buff as well) defense buffs to 2 units and bay to herself(on top of crown giving her another def buff perma since u only burst once ever on bay), teamwide sheild as well as invincible, and when not being taunted you have a double defense buffed and sheilded bay that can also eat up any aoe attacks, and while crown taunting it gives bay some time to self repair cover while all the damage being dealt to team is going to her cover so its pseudo team cover repair due to her cover basically becoming the team's cover.

The only real true diffs are no lifesteal in exchange for reload speed, can maybe just brute force without a healer

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That's just my extreme cope thoughts on the matter

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If i can give her any semblance of a place in pve without it being the worst option on planet earth other than crow then cope i shall

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But i dont think my line of reasoning is that nuts right?

dapper sleet
zealous holly
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I could kinda see it at least as a team 5 thing as a worse poli+biscuit thing.

Tiga comp t1, bunnies t2, rem RL t3, dorovity t4(where poli and biscuit can stay) and then bay+chime in a t5 team for a poli+biscuit kinda thing but without class restrictions that biscuit has for all her specific buffs

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Take away my cooking license, but my dish is already made

ocean sphinx
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more dmg too, won't have to waste a burst for bay

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and if the link does share dmg done to individual shields, it might end up hurting the team, if crown's shield numbers aren't too impressive, and you're dealing with high dmg ST attacks that target all nikkes one after another (like nihil rocks or stormbringer)

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a single hit from it would break all 5 shields if linked works with them

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and rapunzel can revive crown if she messes up and taunts a move, but it hits and kills her after invuln runs out

zealous holly
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You're probably right, in fact more than likely that's the better play, but cope brainstorming to give use to a considered useless nikke was just kinda my angle

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Since if people like the unit, maybe they can have some use in that scenario even if its not as optimal

ocean sphinx
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bay just offers too little to be used deadpanda

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only sustain, and can't even solo sustain that well

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maybe bay biscuit if you need to block a gigantic hit that would nuke your team otherwise, sacrificing bay cover for it

zealous holly
hasty gyro
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full kit W H E N

placid elbow
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This month i believe

mortal quarry
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this month. Next month they'll drop a new kit for replacement Doro

limber trout
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What the hell is going on here

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Why is someone cooking bay

royal heath
jovial quartz
zealous holly
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But i wish to cook yet a single crumb

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Even if it cannot fill the void inside of her pve uselessness

elfin burrow
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Some Nikke are very clearly designed for PvP lol

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Love that they gave Rosanna a skin even though nobody will ever see it lol

placid elbow
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Chibi cheeks in pvp tho

agile beacon
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Hmm I guess I’d still see her before I tap Quick Advise since the Nikke shows in that screen

quartz pond
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That's not meh kek

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Her taunt is the only part that looks meh imo

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She's simply not OP ShiftyDerp

sinful aurora
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i'm honestly amazed how nikke community sometimes overrate some characters and underrate other.
I'm failing to understand in what pink-glassed world Crown is a must pull when we have literally stronger offensive buffer unit which is Naga and we even have Blanc for that role. Damage buffs are mid at best and only because damage type is an ATK up which is already inflated. All other buffs are shit af? Don't make me laugh. Burst buffs are weird as well because it grants a random shield and some random dmg buff. Not to mention the laughable reload + Def buff.
Conclusion: easy skip, only usable for those who don't have any Blanc/Naga on account or for niche strat to stack buffs on Red Hood, which will crumble the moment your precious single dps character gets a sneeze from high dmg attack.

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deal with it

true sluice
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for 70% of the nikkes

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lol

light oyster
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people think crown is overrated and skippable now?

quartz pond
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If you don't care about raids, she honestly is

mortal quarry
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@sinful auroranice one, people are thinking your post isn't a copypasta

void hill
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I can't see her replace jk and bunny yet

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But team 3-5 exist

sinful aurora
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I didn't copy pasta

quartz pond
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She won't beat JKs in single-team content

sinful aurora
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have to write it with the bottom of my heart

quartz pond
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and I doubt she'll work in PvP

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so F2P who don't like SR could honestly save for summer units and hope to be spooked

void hill
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Just need to complain to su to buff her to rh tier

gentle sentinel
dapper sleet
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How r ppl writing crown off without actual kit with numbers coming out

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Watch her give 30000000% attack buff Doro

void hill
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Prob will be op just cause she lore relevant pilgrim

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Should be strong enough to solo invidia

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Pls dont lie to me, wallpaper

ocean sapphire
elfin burrow
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Or for when Indivilia is our first burst 2.5 attacker, and so we need to start buffing three attackers instead of two (e.g. Alice, Maxwell buffs)

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There's countless copium for Crown to eventually be meta, but I agree she's not looking like a "must pull".

One copy to replace Marciana when Sanis team doesn't need as much healing, is my current plan.

hoary adder
balmy mortar
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skip

royal heath
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I still stand by this Doro

brittle sun
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Damn

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deadge Maincord gonna be busy with feedback response once she released I guess

royal heath
brittle sun
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Bruh

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I thought dude is serious since this is the discussion for her

royal heath
brittle sun
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Okay

sinful aurora
brittle sun
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Well based on her kit she at least can replace nihilster for my pilgrim tower malding

sinful aurora
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but I rewrite it with the bottom of my heart

brittle sun
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I didn't expect someone to do meme copy paste here

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I guess it's tradition now

mortal quarry
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Kilo's kit has just been posted.

sinful aurora
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and something will be posted, too

lone notch
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we get kit today too?

hoary adder
royal heath
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nope

mortal quarry
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they're gonna sandbag her as hard as rh

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expect wednesday at the earliest

lone notch
clever sand
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During maintenance

elfin burrow
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1 hour after banner release

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True fans will roll with numbers hidden

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:howdowenothaveacrownemote:

hoary adder
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👑

ocean sphinx
ocean sphinx
severe yew
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am waiting crowns kit now since Kilo is out

royal heath
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probably tomorrow

clever sand
ocean sphinx
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WoahPoggies sped it up to reduce file size?

clever sand
ocean sphinx
clever sand
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Thanks

surreal leaf
sinful aurora
agile beacon
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Makes you wonder what the special costume is

#

Perhaps armored knight

#

Hopefully it fixes her “I’m going to ruin my back” pose

ocean sphinx
#

this is what's confusing me

#

doesn't seem as simple as a self heal potency

#

sounds kinda like nero

sinful aurora
#

when she's healed, she's healed, MORE

#

isn't it

#

additional?

ocean sphinx
#

that sounds too simple deadpanda

agile beacon
#

It’s never been accurate

ocean sphinx
#

btw... is that a crown gacha skin

agile beacon
#

Yes, it is

#

There are two gacha skins coming up in the event

#

No joke

ocean sphinx
sinful aurora
agile beacon
#

Modernia’s costume gacha is running first

ocean sphinx
#

hoping crown one is shit

sinful aurora
#

sorry to break it to you

#

but this is the end

ocean sphinx
#

her base is pretty good already

sinful aurora
#

gacha and shit

#

name one

ocean sphinx
#

oh god, no doro rerun huh

zinc zodiac
elfin burrow
#

Is crown meta enough to sell a gacha skin tho MedeaThink

#

You'd think they'd run JK instead

#

But then again they have Drake a gacha skin

royal heath
#

NO LONGER VALID DUE TO POST REMOVED

placid elbow
#

Holy shit

royal heath
#

translate now BlancStare

sinful aurora
#

nice

placid elbow
#

Shes the best iron mg in game now

sinful aurora
#

that's all I can say

placid elbow
#

Unbelievable

royal heath
#

wait

#

those numbers are actually really high

#

64.51% attack up based on caster's attack

mellow phoenix
#

Caster’s ATk/Def for S1 though

sinful aurora
#

caster ATK

royal heath
#

36.24% attack damage

sinful aurora
#

no wonder it's hilarious low

#

but anyway, still great for max core

mellow phoenix
#

S2 43 hits trigger a stack, better than we thought

sinful aurora
clever sand
#

It's tover

royal heath
#

wait gatrix

sinful aurora
#

anyway, the stream doesn't have lv 10 S1

royal heath
#

she gives 20.99% more attack damage if healed

clever sand
sinful aurora
#

yeah

agile beacon
#

Crown kit? DrakeDance

sinful aurora
#

Crown single carries a team herself

royal heath
#

holy she's stacking on the buffs BlancStare

sinful aurora
#

this is just peak fiction

mellow phoenix
#

S2 and S3 both give all teammates attack damage up. Pretty good.

sinful aurora
#

15s S1

reef field
#

google translate give 40 sec burst cd, is it true ?

sinful aurora
#

15s Burst

formal raven
agile beacon
#

Crown doing the arrogant princess laugh as she watches us get shellacked by her kit

sinful aurora
#

40s true

#

no wonder she has longer duration

#

MID

formal raven
#

It's so over deadge

sinful aurora
#

i'm honestly amazed how nikke community sometimes overrate some characters and underrate other.
I'm failing to understand in what pink-glassed world Crown is a must pull when we have literally stronger offensive buffer unit which is Naga and we even have Blanc for that role. Damage buffs are mid at best and only because damage type is an ATK up which is already inflated. All other buffs are shit af? Don't make me laugh. Burst buffs are weird as well because it grants a random shield and some random dmg buff. Not to mention the laughable reload + Def buff.
Conclusion: easy skip, only usable for those who don't have any Blanc/Naga on account or for niche strat to stack buffs on Red Hood, which will crumble the moment your precious single dps character gets a sneeze from high dmg attack.

agile beacon
#

Huh her burst CD is now 40s?

mellow phoenix
#

Yeah burst CD 40s

royal heath
#

JP stream lied to us deadge

sinful aurora
#

fine tho, she's in Sanis team

formal raven
#

Please somebdoy tell me she has cdr, bros please Copium

agile beacon
#

Hmm 36% dmg buff

placid elbow
frozen charm
#

Has to be typo

tight marlin
#

40s!? time to send Truck

zealous seal
#

BlancStare midrown?

formal raven
#

bruh you should look at the japanese reaction on twitter lol

agile beacon
#

What is it? Joy? Rage?

clever sand
#

Truck soon

sinful aurora
#

good

agile beacon
#

Wait

#

S1 doesn’t care who bursts?

royal heath
sinful aurora
#

yeah

reef field
sinful aurora
#

I believe she's good enough

#

don't make a random bs like Red Hood

agile beacon
#

Yeah if S1 is strong and doesn’t care that Crown didn’t burst, then she’s palatable

formal raven
#

please pray, it's a typo, please it's gotta be TYPO BROOOSS

mellow phoenix
#

Is S2 heal damage up permanent with Rapunzel?

royal heath
#

yeah she's still good the problem is that she forces a 1/2/2 comp

placid elbow
royal heath
#

that's all

late bison
#

Ah 40s cd

sinful aurora
#

S2: Every 14.33s, she will give team 7s dmg up

#

so 50% uptime

mortal quarry
#

polistocks RISING

sinful aurora
#

her burst is strong

formal raven
#

YES, NIHILSTER STILL STOOONKKKKKKKKKK

sinful aurora
#

36.24%, that's Tia's level

agile beacon
#

S2 is confusing. Recovery effect applied when? Anytime?

formal raven
#

best B2 Pilgrim ever

blazing urchin
#

JP trolling. EN will release 20 second burst text

mellow phoenix
agile beacon
#

I mean the “When recovery effect is applied, apply to all allies:” part that gives 21% dmg buff

#

Yes it is

mortal quarry
#

lmao they added in the attack buff into s2 to prevent it from being at perma lvl 1

clever sand
formal raven
reef field
#

tweet deleted btw

sinful aurora
#

btw

reef field
#

so might be a typo

sinful aurora
#

2 RL Crown buff

sinful aurora
blazing urchin
#

I can assure you

#

It’s 20 seconds

placid elbow
mortal quarry
#

@blazing urchinI'm sueing you if it isn't 20s

formal raven
#

well, thank god then Copium

agile beacon
royal heath
#

they actually deleted the JP post

formal raven
#

yup it's deleted

late bison
#

Fastest unit buff

formal raven
#

Intern-kun is messing up again

royal heath
#

so 40s CD might actually be wrong BlancStare

blazing urchin
#

But jokes aside it’s 20 seconds

placid elbow
#

Send a truck in 20s

mortal quarry
#

well folks, we have the best generalist buffer in the b2 slot

agile beacon
#

Does this mean someone saw the kit, and felt that surely it was so OP, it must be 40s CD, then wrote down 40s CD burst without checking the notes kekw

royal heath
sinful aurora
frozen charm
#

EN held their twitter post because they realised it's a crime to make her 40s

sinful aurora
#

I will give you my first impression

blazing urchin
#

Also how are you so fast with the memes wtf

sinful aurora
#

Crown 2 RL instead of Blanc

slender tulip
#

lmao did KR delete again?

reef field
formal raven
royal heath
sinful aurora
#

JP deleted

slender tulip
#

LMAO

formal raven
#

I think it's hilarious if it is 40s

placid elbow
#

The weapon is weird

#

What does that mean?

#

Senses enemies that cannot be auto targeted?

mortal quarry
#

yeah anyone with a braincell knows that 40s will spell death for the rev gains

#

surely they'll learn, right

reef field
#

@sinful aurora how much stronger if she's 20s ?

sinful aurora
#

this one?

agile beacon
sinful aurora
agile beacon
#

Can’t think of anything else

placid elbow
sinful aurora
#

all buffs now last forever

#

except the 7s

glacial fossil
#

WHERE'S THE NEW MEME

sinful aurora
#

it's fixed 14.33s

mellow phoenix
sinful aurora
#

so

#

the silencer

mortal quarry
#

that barrier is made of paper, 10% hp

sinful aurora
#

AI NEVER TARGETS THEM

slender tulip
royal heath
slender tulip
#

crown costume gonna be gacha

royal heath
#

it just needs to eat 1 big attack

slender tulip
#

double gacha

royal heath
slender tulip
mortal quarry
royal heath
#

I'll let you know when she's MCB wahahaha

reef field
#

pilgrim tower eating good

#

if 20s

formal raven
#

Oh I know, 40 seconds with no skin, but 20 seconds with skin bros

royal heath
chrome palm
#

SU Gotta milk wherever possible

worthy hemlock
#

“Nah guys, it’s 40 CD so your encourages to use Rupee as both a 20CD B2 and to use her S1 to stack up Crown faster clueless” - Me

hoary adder
#

LMAO

#

CUCKED BY 40 CD???

robust gulch
#

Can someone recap from live when they play crown

hoary adder
#

DEMO WAS CLEARLY 20

formal raven
robust gulch
#

I think he use Crown burst every rotation

hoary adder
#

he did

#

because there’s 3 b3

#

kilo alice modernia

robust gulch
#

Fk

sinful aurora
robust gulch
#

So they fake skill during live again?

sinful aurora
#

kits can be changed you know

mossy marlin
#

I hope she is 40

sinful aurora
#

last time RH had like

small bloom
#

She 40 seconds?

mossy marlin
#

20 sec is too boring

small bloom
sinful aurora
#

300% Modifier during JP stream

robust gulch
#

I mean change number is OK but CD?

formal raven
#

Maybe SU thinks she's too strong and nerf her again just like RH

mossy marlin
#
  • her s1 proc regardless of if she burst or not
agile beacon
#

Maybe they’re in chaos at ShiftUp and now battle lines are drawn between Team Intern-kun and Team Tencent

hoary adder
sinful aurora
#

Maxwell feels like a clown

agile beacon
#

The winner will decide the fate of Crown’s burst CD!

sinful aurora
#

hm her S2 seems to affect self only

#

the Attack Damage

agile beacon
agile beacon
sinful aurora
#

NVM

#

all allies

worthy hemlock
#

Crown + Rupee propaganda time Doro

agile beacon
#

Le gasp

#

Rupee actually having a meaningful target for the stack buffing

sinful aurora
#

actually legit combo

worthy hemlock
#

My Uber invested Rupee can possibly actually go into a team comp

#

That isn’t pure memes (hopefully)

robust gulch
agile beacon
#

What was the rate of frequency for the stack buffing from Rupee?

agile beacon
#

5s, 10s, 20s, 30s?

mossy marlin
#

1 per 100 ar hits

agile beacon
#

12 bullets/s from AR?

#

8-9 seconds…

worthy hemlock
#

My Rupee has enough bullets to proc it twice without reloading

mossy marlin
#

🚮

sinful aurora
#

actually her S1 only gives ATK to 1 B3

agile beacon
#

Yeah, the one that bursted

#

But so, it’s defender’s ATK

sinful aurora
#

43% ATK to Attacker

#

if you want to think of it

formal raven
#

That's why you need to pair her with Dorothy, as Doro I think benefited the most

slate ore
#

Doro burst should benefit from it right?

formal raven
#

huh only applied to attacker?

mossy marlin
placid elbow
#

Doro only benefits from atk buff b4 burst

mossy marlin
#

Doro need buff before she cast burst

sinful aurora
#

imagine buffing B1

#

may be she can still savage the Crown burst from previous rotation

formal raven
#

what, I thought every nikke who burst get their ATK buffed?

sinful aurora
#

just need 4s

hoary adder
#

yea but doro’s burst takes a snapshot of her atk when she bursts

#

and crown being b2

#

can’t buff that burst

sinful aurora
#

sooooo

#

15s duration?

#

and how long a fb lasts?

formal raven
#

INB4 chime heh

slate ore
#

Oh yeah the buff active when full burst so it wont take effect first

placid elbow
#

Actually yea 15s buff should be fine for doro

sinful aurora
formal raven
#

so she just effectively buff 2 nikkes? herself and the B3 burst attacker?

worthy hemlock
worthy coral
mossy marlin
formal raven
#

I think I mean the S1

mossy marlin
#

Yeah

severe yew
#

bro she is eating a lot of those Atk dmg buff herself

#

also is it 40 or 20 seconds

agile beacon
#

So what’s the situation, did they retweet?

severe yew
#

they nuked the post

hoary adder
#

go back to my nap

hollow notch
#

maybe they copy paste from kilo so they removed the error post KEKL

mossy marlin
#

We will know in 10 mins most likely

formal raven
placid elbow
agile beacon
#

I’m going to do something outrageous

#

Cooking real food while I wait

zealous seal
# formal raven the JP twitter post is 40seconds, there's also this tweet from famitsu guys sayi...

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hollow notch
#

they can't just tweak the showcase to be 20s for the actual release to be 40s
so should be typo on the skill sheet KEKL

severe yew
#

another RH situation

#

so we just run both Noah and Crown double tank lol

blazing urchin
#

don't worry the typo will be fixed

#

20secs

plain glen
#

40s cd

#

fucking dumbass

polar vigil
formal raven
#

they should have release the skill details sooner

plain glen
#

who designed this shit

#

it's still going to be nihilister then

formal raven
#

why they kept holding it back

#

it's just numbers man, release em kekw

royal heath
#

Crown kit reveal posted on twitter was removed please wait for new post for official numbers again. Nothing is final until they repost it.

plain glen
#

i was getting up to go post on the nikke jp twitter lol

agile beacon
#

To be honest, I can believe that the video and gameplay for Anniversary consisted of subject to change kit

#

They could’ve made it 60s CD burst even if it was 20s CD burst in the video

sinful aurora
#

yep

hoary adder
#

it's a shitty move though

agile beacon
#

And it’s not like they announced kit details during the video right?

hoary adder
#

buffs/nerfs after the demo

reef field
#

did they accidentally reveal crown kit?

hoary adder
#

is shown

sinful aurora
#

not the first time

#

get over it

formal raven
#

This shid is like a comedy central stuff mang kekw

sinful aurora
#

last time Red Hood had 300% modifier

hoary adder
#

and they got what's coming for them when that happened

formal raven
sinful aurora
#

last last time Anis was even clip SG

severe yew
#

i want to believe that intern dint sleep well

placid elbow
#

20s

royal heath
#

clip SG ASS ScarletCopium

blazing urchin
#

there we go

slate ore
#

Now thats better

sinful aurora
#

hn

agile beacon
#

UNREST IN THE KINGDOM SUBSIDES

placid elbow
#

All is good

sinful aurora
#

all the value remains

#

20s cd

#

nice, another Liter

royal heath
royal heath
elfin burrow
#

20 seconds huh

formal raven
#

ahh shid, it was fun bros

elfin burrow
#

JP twitter just run by trolls

robust gulch
#

20 sec

#

We won

hoary adder
#

what is proofreading

blazing urchin
#

ez clap

small bloom
#

LFG

formal raven
#

Yay, one pull for me

#

using mileage

#

Fuk gacha this banner

reef field
#

the new effect very nice

elfin burrow
#

Oh taunt is 5 seconds

dark dove
#

well at least her burst not scale by her stats
attack damage i mean

hollow notch
#

so
skill1 = any participating burst(should include re-enter burst) when full burst will get 64.51% caster's attack buff 15 sec
skill2 when she got recovery effect(healed?) buff 20.99% attack damage all allies 7 sec
burst buff 36.24% attack damage all allies 15 sec
all very huge numbers

hoary adder
#

dude

royal heath
#

yeah and invul 5 secs too

hoary adder
#

pepper+crown but no cdr

elfin burrow
#

Chime confirmed a healer I guess

reef field
#

why

hollow notch
#

recovery effect last tested if they got heal over time buff it only applies when get buffed right?

reef field
#

crown is invulnerable

#

doesn't need healing

elfin burrow
#

For crown S2 to trigger

#

Lol

#

The ATK buff part

hollow notch
#

need attack damage 7 sec

reef field
#

it's in crown kit

#

s2 triggers s2

elfin burrow
#

Lol that's gonna be so far apart

royal heath
#

need 20 stack for that

hoary adder
#

yea but it's once every 20 stacks brother

#

860 ammo

severe yew
#

also why such a weird number

#

43 bullet

elfin burrow
#

Surely she can't proc her invulnerability for 5 sec every 7 sec that would be busted as fuck

reef field
#

shift up should just spawn a health pack in battle pop it for some regen

severe yew
#

at least is Fired Bullets

clear portal
hollow notch
#

relaxed is 20 stacks

#

so only when full 20 stacks she heal once

#

43*20

royal heath
#

it DOES allow her to proc it herself at the very least but yes likely want to pair her with at least another healer

sinful aurora
#

43 because she takes 14.33 to trigger

reef field
#

worth mlb ?

royal heath
#

so good chance that chime will do a little healing MAYBE

small bloom
hollow notch
#

if not meta B2 then don't know what she will be lol

sinful aurora
#

she just powercreeps both duos

peak solar
#

She scales from her attack, so ofc it worth

elfin burrow
reef field
#

defender atk% is always fun

hoary adder
#

caster's atk is Deadge

#

need c7

worthy coral
#

Must core 7

hollow notch
#

attack% is great but the attack damage is OP

worthy coral
hoary adder
#

so with this

#

doro benched

#

from UR

sinful aurora
#

Crown Red Hood Alice Modernia Privaty

small bloom
#

there goes my 880 mileage

hoary adder
#

or sth

small bloom
sinful aurora
#

my new campaign team

reef field
#

how much atk damage does tia give?

hollow notch
#

crown 57.23% attack damage which is separate multiplier

lone notch
#

so she's now sole top b2?

hoary adder
reef field
#

she's by far the best sole b2

hoary adder
lone notch
hollow notch
#

tia give 32.11% 10 sec attack damage

peak solar
#

MG - bad burst gen

reef field
#

tia is ass

elfin burrow
#

Yeah Naga's core damage is gonna be tough to ever beat for campaign

lone notch
#

she's worth c7?

reef field
#

crown is the new queen

formal raven
slate ore
#

I bet the skill gonna need 10/10/10 right
Fortunately theres reset

severe yew
#

stealth enemy soon ?

hoary adder
#

the 45% reload speed really changed everything

topaz dust
#

Get that shiny crown

hoary adder
#

compared to the 25%

#

that was speculated

lone notch
#

fuck

reef field
#

15 seconds buffs are so fantastic can just keep bursting that shit back up

royal heath
#

funny enough her buffs allow for modernia to actually burst and maintain those buffs for her entire full burst at least Modernerd

elfin burrow
formal raven
hoary adder
#

priv still halves ammo

hollow notch
#

making 15sec full burst more viable

formal raven
#

so Crown is wid RH now? damn

#

but for the next SR you need to spread the iron tho

peak solar
#

After her taunt enemies should continue to attack her, so she could die easily

topaz dust
#

lmao

peak solar
#

Like material boss turrets

slender tulip
hoary adder
#

I'm still coping on that pepper+crown build but no cdr SCHIZO

hollow notch
#

crown can be with anyone just need B1 cdr or maybe paired with future 15 sec buffer

topaz dust
hoary adder
#

pepper heals her to trigger s2

formal raven
hoary adder
#

and allow her to up stacks faster

formal raven
#

gotta Max Ammu all of them then

slender tulip
mellow phoenix
# reef field

Is this only triggered by first half of S2 or any other healer can do that?

hollow notch
#

rapunzel easier trigger if you need constant heal

elfin burrow
#

Tia/RH/Crown/Naga/Alice would be a dumb hardmode team lol

reef field
mellow phoenix
reef field
#

it is op

hoary adder
#

the question is will it trigger

#

even if she's full hp

formal raven
#

I thought Crown is gonna be SG meta bro why u lie sadge

agile beacon
#

So basically, if someone keeps healing Crown, she will keep refreshing the 7s buff to attack damage… 20% is pretty nice

hollow notch
#

I think those heal over time healer will only trigger once per buff

topaz dust
peak solar
#

Rapunzel suddenly SSS b1 kekw

agile beacon
#

But who or what will be doing the healing?

elfin burrow
placid elbow
formal raven
#

Rapunzel is back babyyyyyyyy

hollow notch
#

we have similar condition before iirc

placid elbow
#

And it worjs at full hp

hoary adder
#

yes nero has one

lone notch
#

what the fuck is 15s atk up with 20s burst

clear portal
agile beacon
reef field
#

you can run b1 b2 b3 b3 and then flex who'se a healer of any kind w/e u want

agile beacon
#

Like lifeleech buff, it’s counted once, but not the hp gained from leeching

clear portal
#

Srsly goodbye Nihilister wahahaha

severe yew
#

math question

topaz dust
severe yew
#

how good is the caster's Def scalling

#

defenders have good Def right ?

slate ore
#

That line is orange so should be able to click it to know it effect other heal or only self heal when live

placid elbow
#

Def a meme lol

severe yew
#

or still useless

polar vigil
#

Nihilister still can do her breeding task tho, still meta

reef field
#

def stat sucks ass deadge

#

but it's okay

hoary adder
#

def sucks ass, only at high numbers can it be decent

severe yew
#

should've been dmg taken decrease buff but its alright

hollow notch
#

nero same activation condition

elfin burrow
#

Oh I thought Nero activated constantly for heal from damage e.g. helm

agile beacon
#

Nope. Once from the buff that gave lifeleech, and never for the leeching itself

peak solar
#

She has 30% uptime of invinsibility, pretty good

placid elbow
#

35%

reef field
#

i'm very happy with crown will be 1 mileage if not for free and moving on

jagged canopy
#

rip Nihilister

elfin burrow
#

Uptime will depend on max ammo/bastion right?

hollow notch
#

what was heal over time buff like summer mary or noise burst activate for nero?

hoary adder
#

only triggers once

agile beacon
#

Never for the HoT

hollow notch
#

so I remembered correctly

hoary adder
#

so you want single instance of often healing

#

pepper/rapunzel

peak solar
agile beacon
#

Emma procs also count but … Emma.

hoary adder
#

emma needs to be attacked

#

not consistent

elfin burrow
#

Emma proca when Crown is taunting a third of the time lol