[Crown] New Unit Megathread

[quartz pond]

Mixes the two

[frozen charm]

update or remove the pin in #1059468005911830558 since it seems to be not updated to the latest

[quartz pond]

I don't have those perms, but I'll just edit it

[frozen charm]

you can remove your entire message

and it will unpin

[quartz pond]

True, but at that point I can just edit it

[mortal quarry]

they finally give us a defender pilgrim for that gear sink but she doesn't need OL
because fuck you

[hollow hinge]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1038708366630977566/1047768821747941376/20221201_022935.gif

[quartz pond]

Hm? She'll definitely need OL

Max Ammo

[scarlet spade]

did they show her ult animation yet?

[quartz pond]

The lowest assumed shots per stack is 60, which means only 5 stacks per reload at based ammunition

They did

Kilo's burst, too

https://youtu.be/yNQV7MgzI64?si=67csjhQCed25DSD7&t=55

Timestamped

[mortal quarry]

ngl if her taunt isn't consistent (like noise or moran), she'll be just a really good b2 buffer
which is fine, but I expect more

esp for a new age pilgrim

[quartz pond]

Honestly, I'm excited for her, because she's essentially B2 Tia but without Tia's major flaw

The taunt being inconsistent means she won't constantly kill herself

[severe yew]

theory.

rn they release crown, but when chime is out they get their treasures and have a new kit and its Duos Lol

[lone notch]

meaning I can finally ditch nihil in pilgrim tower

[frozen charm]

?

max ammo

[sinful aurora]

do you know: Naga can trigger core hit without bursting?

as long Crown gives shield to her

[frozen charm]

and atk if any of her buffs scale from her own atk

[sinful aurora]

you will lose 40% ATK buff for not bursting Naga tho

and non Tia there

no place

[hoary adder]

https://tenor.com/view/misinformation-spreading-spreading-misinformation-online-gif-4543841945782036495

[quartz pond]

Wait, can you link me that Japanese?

[hoary adder]

nah i got it from another discord

[quartz pond]

Ah, darn

Curious if that's a text transcription of the video or if that's from an actual text source

to see if the messed up burst info was a speaker error or not

[mortal quarry]

when do we get the tower defense research channel

for dat speedclear

[quartz pond]

Ah, found it

［スキル1］ワンフォーオール（パッシブ）：フルバーストタイムを発動したとき、直前にバーストスキルを発動させた味方全体に攻撃力＆リロード速度アップ。発動させていない味方には防御力とリロード速度アップ

［スキル2］ロイヤルアタイア（パッシブ）」：一定回数攻撃したとき、自分にHP回復バフを付与する。フルスタッグ状態になり、自分のHPがいちばん高い状態なら、スタックを解除し、一定時間の無敵と挑発付与。

［バーストスキル］ラストキングダム：味方全体にダメージアップ効果、クラウンの最大HPの一定量分のバリアを付与。
スキル効果：部隊の攻守両面で役立つニケ。バーストスキルを使用したニケの攻撃を補助するのに特化。クラウンが回復したときに追加効果が発生する。

味方全体にダメージアップ効果
"Damage Up Effect" to all allies

That's going to be attack damage for sure

[lone notch]

it is atk up

[hoary adder]

[quartz pond]

No, S1 is ATK Up, while burst is attack damage up

The spoken description during the stream made it a bit confusing because he included 力, but this makes it clear

[clever sand]

Caster's atk

[quartz pond]

Second part scales on caster's HP

Hm?

[quartz pond]

クラウンが回復したときに追加効果が発生する

"When Crown is healed, additional effects occur"

[sinful aurora]

additional effect, which is heal

When Crown is healed, she is healed more

[quartz pond]

Probably

[mortal quarry]

That's some of the shittiest EN translation ever if that's true.

[lone notch]

they're saying additional effect is barrier

[quartz pond]

Who and where?

[lone notch]

in stream

[quartz pond]

In the JP stream, the barrier is just the burst effect

[rough haven]

JP translation of her kit doesn’t mention CDR

[lone notch]

oh yea

barrier is burst

and s2 effect is invincible+taunt

[rough haven]

Yeah. Doro is already the pilgrim cdr

Crown is a direct Nihilister replacement

Nihilister is dead

[quartz pond]

She doesn't have CDR as far as any source I've seen has indicated

[rough haven]

I was just reading the early comments thinking she would be cdr based off skill icon

I’m a bit late to the game

[lean canyon]

1 copy is a must for pilgrim tower alone. Multiple/MLB will be decided if her attack buff is based on her actual attack or a multiplier

[clever sand]

Her s1 symbol is same as liter and volume cdr

[mortal quarry]

yes, but for some reason reload also shares the same symbol as cdr

you can check

[lean canyon]

Maxwell also does have the same one

[rough haven]

Only 1 copy for me regardless. Not enough resources to go for MLB anything

[quartz pond]

Yeah, that icon isn't exclusively a CDR icon

[clever sand]

I can MLB crown but if she is mid one copy is enough

[lean canyon]

Heck even centi has it

[rough haven]

She is meta due to 20s b2

[lean canyon]

[rough haven]

Meta for pilgrim tower at least

[severe yew]

only taunt has exclusive icon from what i can remember

is the ( ! ) one

[quartz pond]

The only potential reason to MLB her is if her burst has insane scaling

[worthy hemlock]

So what’s cooking lads

[quartz pond]

or if you like her/her burst

[clever sand]

Oh yeah her animation is really good

[worthy hemlock]

Whose ready to use Rupee to stack Crown up faster

[acoustic mantle]

so is nihi for pilgrim tower, or RH in most cases

[lean canyon]

Yup, if it doesn't scale at all with her stats then 1 copy is more than enough

[quartz pond]

Her barrier is going to scale with her HP, but if the scaling is like 10%, then it's not worth

[hasty gyro]

Might as well save for summer limited and 1st anni

1 copy probs enough

[quartz pond]

Yeah, that's what I'm recommending the F2P in my union. If mileage is looking kind of good, just pray for the 21 pulls to give her

if not, use 200 mileage

save gems for summer

[severe yew]

even mr sky say she do be looking kinda mid

[lean canyon]

We will also get 21 free pulls exclusively for her banner

[rough haven]

Oh yeah

[quartz pond]

It's more that dupes only really matter for DPS units for the most part

[rough haven]

Alright. Free pulls until last day then

[quartz pond]

Her not being a 2B-style Defender means that she doesn't really care about dupes

Similar to how Liter dupes only matter for CP boost

meanhile Naga loves dupes

[lean canyon]

Yeah, and she doesn't seem to be a DPS either, tho her damage might be good for this upcoming SR

[hasty gyro]

Man

[clever sand]

Imagine if her atk buff is caster's atk

[hasty gyro]

Shoulda just made her 2B 2.0(with buffs on top)

[clever sand]

[hasty gyro]

Well I shouldn't start dooming, yet

[quartz pond]

If she's bursting and Gatrix's numbers stay accurate, she'll be giving herself a 43% ATK buff plus however much attack damage buff

[dusky goblet]

what if her att buff is the casters hp/def?

[severe yew]

nah she not DPS at all i think even Kilo normal attack is stronger

[quartz pond]

so as an MG, yeah, her damage shouldn't be terrible

[quartz pond]

Not likely or they would've said that

but if so, then dupes become more important

Although, caster's ATK isn't affected by OL gear lines, so still meh

[clever sand]

Caster's atk is the worse case cuz she is defender

[quartz pond]

Mhm

Though if that happens, we'll probably just get RH drama part 2 and she'll get buffed

[clever sand]

Ye hahah

[quartz pond]

Shift Up weirdly folds to criticism

Sometimes they fold really easily

other times they flat out ignore it

[clever sand]

Well actually if she is mid drama will still arrives

[lean canyon]

Yup, mid Anni pilgrim. She has all the means to get a buff if she ends up being lower than a Meh unit

[clever sand]

Gals are too broken

new support gonna be compared to gals

[quartz pond]

She's still an improvement over most of the B2s we have sans duos

[hasty gyro]

It's entirely their own fault

Pilgrim system did not need to exist

[formal raven]

So she's mid? thank god I just need to redeem her once with mileage

[quartz pond]

Tia buff + S1 in her burst, 1/2 Naga burst in her S1

[hasty gyro]

Of course people are disappointed(rightfully so) when a Pilgrim turns out mid, when SU set out to make them above average at worst.

[quartz pond]

Nah, just discussing ways she could be

[hasty gyro]

but o wel

too early to tell

[severe yew]

without numbers we cant tell she mid or not also

[quartz pond]

She's not a DPS unit

That's the reason we're saying probably don't need dupes

One copy is still practically a definite rn

[clever sand]

Yeah

[severe yew]

i think shift up done goof making Dorothy a DPS unit now putting shades on crown

[formal raven]

Still no numbers and still need testing.
Is she better with RH, or Sanis. That's what we need to know

[clever sand]

Her burst animation is astonishing but is not enough to MLB her

[quartz pond]

43% ATK boost at full burst is superior to Naga's ATK buff with Tia

Reload speed buff is always convenient, as we don't have many of those

Her burst is Tia's S1 and burst in one package

[severe yew]

thats atk boost like litter ? or Atk based on caster

[dapper sleet]

she is surely viable being a b2 buffer + "healer"

[quartz pond]

At the current time like Liter

[clever sand]

What is the total amount of atk buff with gals?

[severe yew]

if its like litter than no point going dupes at all

[quartz pond]

Based on caster, so variable

[clever sand]

Oh right

[ocean sapphire]

based on caster on a defender is kinda sad no?

[severe yew]

yea defender has low atk lol

[quartz pond]

But 47% of Caster ATK is inferior to 43% standard ATK boost

[dapper sleet]

keep in mind she is a defender

so casters attack is uber shit

need to have like double values

[quartz pond]

They specificied Caster's HP for Crown's Barrier

[severe yew]

i swear theres gonna be like 104% caster atk

[quartz pond]

so it's unlikely her other skills are based on caster stats

[severe yew]

people like OOHH SHIT

[dapper sleet]

@sinful aurora whats conversion on attacker vs defender attack state

50%?

[severe yew]

to not realized its defender's attack stats

[ocean sapphire]

The attack damage might be really high to compensate

hopefully

but then again B2 doesn't really have crazy buffers

[sinful aurora]

higher

[dapper sleet]

b2 is the best spot for a buffer healer

b2 20 sec

jsut bc we have 4 B1 20 sec cdr units

[severe yew]

im still a bit not sold on crowns S2 atm

[worthy hemlock]

Just use Rupee to stack it faster

[severe yew]

granted not sure how long the taunt and the Iframe last either

[dapper sleet]

she is almost certainly viable

b2 slot also doesnt have much ammo support units other than admi or diesel, which both suck

[quartz pond]

Essentially we have:

S1: 43% ATK buff to 3 units (four if you if used with re-cast unit), ??? buff to DEF for 1-2 units, and 25% to reload to entire team
S2: HP Potency Up to 20 stacks, 3 second taunt and invincibility if she's top HP
Burst: Tia/Aria burst of unknown potency + 22.6% attack damage up

[sinful aurora]

22.6% dmg

[quartz pond]

If the stacks are really 60-80 ammo, that's going to hurt a bit for anyone who doesn't have easy OL accessibility

[sinful aurora]

whatever it is, AD or ATK

it's 22.6%

[quartz pond]

22.6% DPS increase?

like the actual damage numbers are that much higher?

[clever sand]

Mid

One copy

[quartz pond]

That would be AD, right?

[sinful aurora]

bullet dmg goes from 4291 to 5263

[clever sand]

[quartz pond]

Yeah, so that's AD

[sinful aurora]

can be ATK too

[quartz pond]

A bit lower than Tia's then

[sinful aurora]

because it's just B2

at the time of B3, the 5263 => 7524

[quartz pond]

Ahh

[sinful aurora]

I assumed 75% ATK up hence the 53%

[clever sand]

Mid but hey, her face mmmmmmmm

[sinful aurora]

if it's AD, I will have to re cal

[quartz pond]

Burst should be AD

[sinful aurora]

in that case, 43% ATK

[quartz pond]

The spoken skill description was suspicious, but the famitsu article leans on attack damage hardcore

S1 is ATK up tho

[sinful aurora]

it's either

• 22.6% ATK from burst, 53% atk from S1
• Or 22.6% dmg up from burst, 43% ATK from S1

[quartz pond]

Should be the latter

Either way, that's not a mid unit for B2 rn

Just probably can't consider her a reliable taunter

she's more like Makima

[mortal quarry]

I just can't stand having a totally useless skill if she isn't a reliable taunter

[ocean sapphire]

SU really need to reconsider defensive utility

i don't think they understand everything they make one shots through all these "defense" and shield buffs

[quartz pond]

I mean, Aria and Tia's shield can actually take some hits

It's just Blanc and Centi's which are useless (for anything but one-shot protection)

[clever sand]

Why gals exist they broke our dreams

[quartz pond]

The difference of 8ish% scaling vs 40%ish scaling

[clever sand]

Now every new "meta" support unit will be compared to gals

[severe yew]

watch

[quartz pond]

That's a player problem.

[severe yew]

they release chime + crown's treasure

[quartz pond]

We have five teams for SR

Even if supports don't beat the duos, there are still three teams to fill

Dorovity B2 slots are somewhat variable still, even though Biscuit has solidly placed herself in there

[clever sand]

Maybe crown goes to Sanis team xD

[quartz pond]

T4 and T5 are generally some SW comp and M Priv comp

otherwise just a leftovers comp

[quartz pond]

so any supports that can make those bottom three teams more solid are totally cool with me

and/or units that can help start defining real mono-element teams

[clever sand]

In bird was 2b comp

[quartz pond]

See "generally"

I consider the 2B comp in the "leftovers" category

[severe yew]

honestly im thinking shes like the ideal burst 2 for team 4 and 5

[quartz pond]

Which, if so, makes her meta

[worthy hemlock]

So… if Crown needs 20 stacks. I wonder how many stacks I can scam with Rupee . god I want to see the actual values already and it hasn’t even been that long

[quartz pond]

I'm thinking she's just going to be very reliant on Max Ammo rolls

[severe yew]

crown + rapunzel shinanegans

[quartz pond]

meaning she's actually easier to build than Rem

[ocean sapphire]

the thing is neither can solo sustain

[severe yew]

actually would this work ?

[quartz pond]

They also can't because they're reliant on a second NIkke

Crown isn't

You could stick Rapunzel in her team cuz there's no second B2 or Naga required

[ocean sapphire]

the point im making is this is the case for every defensive Nikke

[severe yew]

makes her unkillable somewhat

[ocean sapphire]

none of them can hold a team on their own

[quartz pond]

Naga works standalone.

[ocean sapphire]

Naga heals

[quartz pond]

She also repairs cover

[ocean sapphire]

the cover repair on its own doesn't keep you alive

[quartz pond]

Depends on the boss

[ocean sapphire]

lately everything just hits insanely hard

[quartz pond]

Nihilister didn't require any healing if you had cover repair

Break guns with DPS, break rocks with DPS, break circles with DPS, take cover for fire breath

[ocean sapphire]

i will concede that one

[quartz pond]

The only teams that needed healing were teams with unreliable ST DPS

[ocean sapphire]

sadly thats not every boss

[quartz pond]

Oh, for sure

[hoary adder]

now we wait if those numbers are level 1 or 10

[quartz pond]

Or even final

[ocean sapphire]

I think in crown's case its a lil better since all she's doing isn't defensive centric thing's

[quartz pond]

I was just saying that Crown has an advantage over a lot of our other options atm since she's more flexible

[ocean sapphire]

but if she needs a healer to keep comp alive it begs the question why place that stuff in the kit in the first place

[hoary adder]

obviously chime gonna have heals

[ocean sapphire]

for sure the buffs alone make her better than 80% of the roster

[worthy hemlock]

Idk Chime might heal

[hoary adder]

[ocean sapphire]

4.5y anniversary Nikke

[quartz pond]

I also think that if a sole Defender can win a war of attrition against an SR boss in a 3 minute fight without healing support, we have a problem

[severe yew]

also why they dint release chime alongside crown

[quartz pond]

Unless that boss is Gravedigger

[severe yew]

is weird to me

[worthy hemlock]

Crown + Rupee meta

[ocean sapphire]

i think we should move to that direction tbd

[severe yew]

they looked like a Duo

[ocean sapphire]

for pure defenders atleast

[hoary adder]

chime don't look like she can sell

and a duo pilgrim at 1% rateup is brutal

[quartz pond]

Chime 2y freebie

[mortal quarry]

bullshit she absolutely WILL sell esp if they release as duos

[reef field]

true only supporters do that

[ocean sapphire]

just make her broken she'll sell

[reef field]

defenders are a half baked class

[ocean sapphire]

Naga can hold a team for 3 minutes even without Tia and buffs

[hoary adder]

a lot of players here are also for waifu. so they need to make chime more likeable and memorable first

[quartz pond]

Defenders have been a problem since the start

Look at Novel

[worthy hemlock]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1070164684008857613/1224499810502185111/image0.jpg?ex=661db750&is=660b4250&hm=72bbe752763a24b94a2fb66640895e0a879f3c5705a3fee01faa1701caff5661&

[ocean sapphire]

for a defender that just defeneds to not even be able to survive is just sad

[reef field]

i will never forget chime's jp screeching

she's too memorable

[ocean sapphire]

best defenders at some point we're used for damage amp is crazy

[worthy hemlock]

Just wait for the XRupee treasure next XMas

[severe yew]

lowkey i think only 2 B2 defender come into mind thats good and thats Rem and Blanc but then blanc needs noir

or am i missing someone

[ocean sapphire]

One day we go have it one day

[reef field]

you can play rupee in doro team maybe

xrupee being electric is nice

[ocean sapphire]

Rem is support no?

[reef field]

gets sanis buff

[uncut pecan]

https://tenor.com/view/mike-ohearn-baby-dont-hurt-me-john-cnea-gif-1821820141494841279

[severe yew]

reduce that to only blanc

[sinful aurora]

werd pls

you can only run 30 FPS MG

[severe yew]

only 1 notable lol

[sinful aurora]

[uncut pecan]

not 30

45

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1153995605308342295.webp?size=48&quality=lossless&name=KekU

55 if i am angry

[ocean sapphire]

society

[reef field]

crown is one of those flex slot characters

55 atk% every burst without bursting herself

or not?

does crown need to burst for her s1 to activate

[quartz pond]

Yeah, full burst, not hers

She can be used with another B2 like Biscuit and apply her S1 every time

[severe yew]

i heard from Tim that particular buff last for like 15 -20 seconds ?

its quite long

[quartz pond]

You just lose the attack damage buff if she doesn't burst

[quartz pond]

If it's 20 seconds, that's permanent uptime then for the B1 and her

You'd just have it off on your off-burst B3s who would get DEF instead

[reef field]

can also use crown in the fifth slot

never burst

just enjoy the atk%

something dumb like b1 rem rl rl crown

get cdr in the b1 and rem makes sure the team survives crown's just there for additional buffs

rem is already bloated with atk% but why not add some more doesn't hurt her dps lol

why can't crown just join the 777 squad

yeet noir out put crown in

perfect

[quartz pond]

Blasphemy

[twin glacier]

crown isn’t gonna be the campaign pusher I was hoping for then damn. Her lobby looks good tho

[reef field]

nobody voted for noir

it was all blanc

[twin glacier]

I did

[reef field]

when rouge comes out noir's bye bye

[twin glacier]

lmao what if rouge is shit

[quartz pond]

Idk, +86% ATK to RH sounds mighty strong

[reef field]

it is but

[quartz pond]

Noir was like 7th place before they hid the numbers

[reef field]

when you consider 5 teams nobody goes as well with tia naga as rh

that's below scarlet twice

[quartz pond]

Not everyone has JKs

[twin glacier]

yea if you don’t have schoolgirls she’s good

[quartz pond]

And Crown is a better buffer than solo Naga (currently)

[reef field]

sure if you don't have 5 nikke even crow becomes good

but i don't really like the idea of her being a worse option of a better existing one

[quartz pond]

It's two units vs one

That's not a fair argument

[lean canyon]

Me with not stable teams 4-5 putting any random nikkes I have for copium

[reef field]

the argument is in the face of building 5 teams for sr

[quartz pond]

We still have two teams that fluctuate every raid

Nothing wrong with her taking a spot there

[twin glacier]

so at the highest, she’s a raid unit

[quartz pond]

For those who have all Nikkes, that's what it probably comes down to, yeah

[twin glacier]

Ok ok I’ll reserve judgment till the numbers come out

[lean canyon]

AND best pilgrim tower B2, don't forget that

[quartz pond]

Safest assumption right now is that she's a dedicated B2 for T4 or T5

[twin glacier]

I don’t have em all. But I have most of the “good” ones

[quartz pond]

as well as yeah, freeing us from Nihilister oppression

[ocean sapphire]

Champion Arena Nikke too

[reef field]

idk

championship? how

[quartz pond]

Once we get final numbers, we could see more potential options

[ocean sapphire]

tbf every nikke since RH has been raid exclusive

with a few outliers

[reef field]

for championship it would still be better to just run a full rl or shotgun team

than to force mg

[ocean sapphire]

champion will be diff

source trust me

[quartz pond]

Yeah, but X Lud normally lives in the top 3 teams

she shifted meta

Campaign meta requires very specific things, so we're not going to see it change much

PvP is pretty much just a burst gen war

[ocean sapphire]

yeah she doesn't contest Duo

[quartz pond]

Also SBS is a strong campaign pusher

[ocean sapphire]

when 1-3 Duo release crown will be the same i imagine

[quartz pond]

also seen in PvP

(although I don't know why)

[reef field]

just buff her

[ocean sapphire]

RL ig?

[reef field]

it would be shit if she's sr team 4 right out the gate

[ocean sapphire]

she t3 bare minimum I feel

just off what we know

[reef field]

rn she'll fit doro team really well yeah

[quartz pond]

Considering Scarlet and Modernia are drifting downward in the teams

and Alice is stuck as a support unit

[reef field]

biscuit getting buffs constantly is nice

[quartz pond]

T4 isn't too bad

[reef field]

max you mean? alice is not support

[ocean sapphire]

Yeah tbf mod is especially sad

[quartz pond]

Alice is SBS support

[ocean sapphire]

Alice is sbs support

[quartz pond]

[ocean sapphire]

no Pierce alice damage fall off a cliff

[reef field]

sbs needs that much help huh

[ocean sapphire]

but no one talks about it

[quartz pond]

In SB raid, Scarlet was a random off-burst

in a team that can't even be called a comp

[ocean sapphire]

Scarlet is cooked tbf

until electric weakness return

[quartz pond]

So I'd say becoming our dedicated T4 B2 isn't too bad

[reef field]

was that last raid not a thing because of fire

[ocean sapphire]

Yeah if every new Nikke is T3 no new Nikke is T3

[reef field]

needed fire in all teams or something

or was fire 2 raids ago well i don't even remember

[ocean sapphire]

Fire Raid was SB iirc

[reef field]

this time it's likely iron and we have so many of those

it will be np

[quartz pond]

Fire weakness was SB, yeah

[ocean sapphire]

Liter will not Break QTE

[quartz pond]

Yeah, Iron is stacked

[reef field]

qte with rem's boss was weak i could break it with any nikke

[quartz pond]

With Diesel's treasure incoming, Elegg and Rem being thrown at us recently, and Crown/Kilo coming out, Shift Up is really on an MG fix

[reef field]

half a year ago someone posted weapon tier list

mg was at the top

then shift up started to work hard on mg

[quartz pond]

meanwhile SMGs

[ocean sapphire]

mg tyranny is insane

[quartz pond]

They just gave up

[ocean sapphire]

Even Laplace

Crown fabled RL savior

betrayed RL to be meta

[quartz pond]

My Valkyria Chronicles dreams were crushed

[reef field]

it was funny that people predicted crown to be a shotgun/sniper/rocket launcher

but she's mg

[quartz pond]

Although I was happy that I tinfoiled correctly a long time ago that Crown would end up the Iron MG

Drove me nuts that we didn't have one

[ocean sapphire]

ngl that threw me off

bro forgor about Laplace

[severe yew]

honestly for me is either shotgun or MG

[ocean sapphire]

the one true iron mg

[severe yew]

thanks to Gundam shows

the Gunlance weapon

[reef field]

i had no clue didn't know what a lance would shoot

[quartz pond]

Yeah, both from Valkyria Chronicles and Monster Hunter, Lance = RL was my brain's first instinct

[reef field]

are we thinking chime could duo with crown still or nah

[ocean sapphire]

yeah but that's next year's conversation

well 3 years tbf

at the rate they release pilgrims

[reef field]

crown's fucking dead in 3 years

[ocean sapphire]

Chime will revive her

[reef field]

she could fair

[ocean sapphire]

i think atp we'll be ready for "when paired with x gain 200% attack"

we already halfway there with Tove

[ocean sphinx]

where can I find the jp stream?

[quartz pond]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GPUROErip0

Need something particularly for it?

I can timestamp since I watched the whole thing

[ocean sphinx]

interested in the self heal crown got once she reached 20 stacks

[quartz pond]

She doesn't get a self-heal afaik. She turns invincible and taunts

Sadly in the gameplay, it's level 400 Nikkes vs Stage V SR, so they don't take damage

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNQV7MgzI64

This might be better for you if gameplay is what you want to see

[hoary adder]

my god, release that damn b3 cdr already

we can do things like pepper+crown

[ocean sphinx]

isn't this self heal? or is it from elsewhere

or is that the max hp buff expiring?

[hoary adder]

pepper with heals + 1stack

[strange ruin]

that's from kilo(?)

the healing

[ocean sphinx]

eh?

didn't know kilo healed

the "heal" triggered after reaching 20 stacks

[dapper sleet]

Pull crown

[reef field]

i don't know if kilo heals

don't see it i kilo's kit

and why would kilo heal pre-burst

[quartz pond]

Kilo doesn't heal

[quartz pond]

That may be the "additional effect" that mentioned in the sub-notes of the skills

The skill descriptions we currently have only mention that stacks are HP Potency and are removed to provide "invincibility" and taunt

Although the "invincible" term used in the JP is different than that used for Blanc and Makima

so it could be a new effect

[round forum]

Are we winning this banner?

Cause all I see is one of the best shooting poses to exist

[mortal quarry]

No jiggle no ass

[quartz pond]

Sounds like winning to me

I have jiggles off in the first place

[mellow phoenix]

https://www.famitsu.com/article/202404/2847

Here’s the famitsu article with Crown and Kilo’s kit descriptions

[rocky mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/the-simpsons-pathetic-principal-skinner-gif-13486077408184960752

[hasty gyro]

Only thing jiggling on my screen is the cross hair because I have screen shake enabled

[ocean sphinx]

wish they gave her a way to sustain the team, at least naga-tier

[dapper sleet]

hopefully crown s2 taunts longer/takes less time to stack on s2 level ups

perma taunt

[sharp delta]

crown is going to be our best iron mg unit

[placid elbow]

Ye, seems to be the case after my calculations

[severe yew]

longer taunt kinda dangerous if she dosnt self heal but yea

[placid elbow]

Somethings healing her. afaik doesnt seem like the other teammates have healing in their kits

[agile beacon]

Seeing some of the screenshots and Crown’s shooting posture, and remembering that they said Crown’s arrogant without being annoying, I think Crown would say that she has the best ass in the kingdom and she knows it.

[hoary adder]

yo

can someone analyze alice’s ammo

in the video

[ocean sphinx]

max hp buff expiring doesn't pop up healing numbers, just the animation of the green "+"s (tested with rapunzel)

so doesn't seem to be that

maybe some other part of her s2 we dunno about

[placid elbow]

No pepper

Seems to pop up when she has her 20th stacks and it consumes her stacks

[hoary adder]

the pepper comment was about comboing her with crown

if there’s a b3 cdr unit

pepper gives more healing potency and faster crown stacks

[placid elbow]

Oh

[hoary adder]

ok

why does alice have 8 ammo?

[ocean sphinx]

I think it's just a part of her s2 we dunno about, self heal once reaching 20 stacks and they expire

[hoary adder]

I checked neon’s skills and she doesn’t give ammo for snipers

everyone else has the “correct” ammo but alice

[soft loom]

does her ass so magnificent you guys have to watch the live stream multiple times to calculate damage?

[placid elbow]

Prolly guy had ol i guess

[hoary adder]

the others have the base ammo though

[placid elbow]

Or cube

[hoary adder]

yea but WHY ONLY ALICE

https://tenor.com/view/conspiracy-charlie-day-crazy-always-sunny-in-philadelphia-qanon-gif-23738584

[placid elbow]

Idk, Red hood during her stream had charge spd ol

And ammo ol too

[ocean sphinx]

can someone figure out crown's approx max hp based on her atk stat, which you might be able to get from her dmg numbers?

to get an idea of how big the "heal" is

[dapper sleet]

we can just wait

lol

they prob updating numbers as we speak

[agile beacon]

Yes, speculation is too futile, we can’t trust the demonstration

I hope Kilo surprises us all and proves to be a really good SSR even in certain meta

Meanwhile, I hope Crown is not too insane

[rocky mantle]

she is going to be op

is pilgrim

https://tenor.com/view/desmondpacito-cooking-chef-gif-12378159

if not, remember what happen with redhood

[glad epoch]

is she the next big thing?

[boreal junco]

Red hood was hyped way before release. Also they committed the error of showing footage of a build that changed when going live. That gave people more reason to protest

A buffer/defender is not going to have this happen

[rocky mantle]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/666354973998841862/958198646162198528/caption-1-1.gif

[boreal junco]

Just don't pull then , it's easy xf

I pulled on red hood knowing about her power level because I like the character

[copper shell]

like what does op even mean anymore

i guess if anything would qualify as op, it would be the supports

[hasty gyro]

support which buffs but also deals good damage(still less than pure attacker but nowhere near bad as regular support)

I'd say that qualifies as OP

[ocean sphinx]

good dmg? where?

even though she's MG, being defender means lowest atk stat she can get

[sharp delta]

Official numbers waitingroom

[hasty gyro]

I was replying to the post above

[tardy heart]

must pull

[errant loom]

excited!

[limber trout]

Crown - Burst II, Iron, Defender, MG)

Skill 1 - One For All
■ Activates when entering Full Burst. Affects all allies

• Reloading Speed ▲ x% for 10 sec.
• Affects the same allies using Burst skill.
• ATK ▲ x% (of caster's?) ATK, lasts for 10 sec.
• Affects the same allies not using Burst skill.
• DEF ▲ x% (of caster's?) DEF, lasts for 10 sec.

Skill 2: Royal Attire
■ Activates after landing 80 normal attack(s). Affects self.

• [Buff]: HP Potency ▲ X%, stacks up to 20 time(s) and lasts for X sec.
  ■ Affects self when the caster reaches max stacks of [Buff] and has the highest HP.
• Clears stacks
• Attract: Taunt all enemies for 3(?) sec.
• Invincible for 3(?) sec.
• Heals x% or caster's HP as HP

Burst: Last Kingdom (Cooldown: 20s)
■ Affects all allies

• Attack damage ▲ x%, lasts for 15 sec.
• Generates a shield with x% of the caster's final Max HP for 15 sec.

[errant loom]

isnt crown also getting a costume? i think was mentioned in livestream

[royal heath]

yes

[errant loom]

maybe it was mispeak for RH idk

i might actually spend money this update

costume beter be good for both. dont really like RH stock but shes my strongest unit

[agile beacon]

You say highest HP. Is this highest max HP or highest current HP?

[placid elbow]

Shes got some kinda heal too from her s2 once she clears all stacks.

[limber trout]

I think it was her max hp buff expiring

Maybe

[placid elbow]

I dnt think that shows as green number

[limber trout]

Lemme see

[ocean sphinx]

max hp buff doesn't show a heal number

I tested it with rapunzel, on expiration, just shows the heal animation with green pluses, no number

[limber trout]

What's the base stats for mlb defender at lvl400

Time to pull up lorax calculator

[ocean sphinx]

do we know she's lvl 400 and mlb in the showcase?

was thinking about using her dmg numbers to find her atk stat, then using that to find her hp stat

[limber trout]

Yes

These are her base stats

[ocean sphinx]

seems to be a pretty insignificant heal then

[limber trout]

How so? Seems very very insignificant

152,000

At lvl400, defender hp is
~2,000,000

[ocean sphinx]

2 bil? my lvl 237 blanc is already at 1.3 bil

does it not count gears

think so

[limber trout]

Oh
I thought he said significant

It seems like everyone gets the reload buff

And not "to those who don't burst"

[ocean sphinx]

any way to confirm or deny that the heal is a team heal?

[limber trout]

[placid elbow]

So like 7.6% heal after 1600 shots

[reef field]

not from footage

[limber trout]

Yes

[reef field]

they're at full health

[ocean sphinx]

[royal heath]

we already know this lol

[limber trout]

Crown's shield protects from half the damage fealt

[ocean sphinx]

huh?

[limber trout]

Over here
It says not using burst skill

[royal heath]

it's the atk and def buff that goes to active/inactive bursters

[ocean sphinx]

burst shield? it's just dmg reduction?

I thought it was just a regular shield

[placid elbow]

We see the shieod hp

[royal heath]

look at kigitsune's translation

[placid elbow]

Should be normal shielda

[limber trout]

Oh so the allies not using burst skill get Def buff
Using burst gen atk buff

I didn't read

[royal heath]

SMH

[reef field]

please buff shift up

[ocean sphinx]

what's hp recovery buff here

potency?

[placid elbow]

Prolly

[ocean sphinx]

or is it that heal we see at 20 stacks but worded weirdly

[reef field]

she heals herself not a team healer

[placid elbow]

If its not a team heal atleast imma shit my pants bruh.

[reef field]

that's what the translations says

if she has taunt + invincibility then the whole self healing is fine

[ocean sphinx]

small ass heal only to self every like 20 sec at best, with 3 sec of taunt and invinc

[reef field]

her shield is no joke either

[placid elbow]

Every 26.6s assuming infinite ammo and 60 fps

[reef field]

personal shield to everyone is baller

[ocean sphinx]

is that assuming higher than 60 shots per stack?

I assumed it was 60 bc that's what they usually do

[placid elbow]

Im going off what snake put 80 shots per stack

[ocean sphinx]

individual shield? or shared

[reef field]

not centi

[placid elbow]

Individual

[ocean sphinx]

huh so like tia and ram

[placid elbow]

We can see the shield hp on everyone

[ocean sphinx]

would be good pair with naga then..... except both b2

I assume shield hp isn't anything special then

so it'll block 1 shots, and probably enough for sustain for a lot of fights

[reef field]

no reason to pair with naga when tia's so good

[ocean sphinx]

I just want her to be good enough team sustain so that 3 DPS is possible in most fights

[reef field]

not all raids are dmg heavy

i get the impression that she can sustain some but not all

[limber trout]

How would you pair B2 with b2

Makes no sense

[ocean sphinx]

btw, are we sure the translations mean that she has 3 sec invuln and 3 sec taunt?

[reef field]

just a what if scenario

[ocean sphinx]

bc that sounds yikes, some attacks lock onto target, then hit them a few sec later

[limber trout]

You lose out on 33% atk buff if you don't burst with Naga
Or 25% attack damage buff if you don't burst with crown

[ocean sphinx]

might result in her taunting an attack, but invuln expiring before it lands

in general it just sounds super trash, gotta manual her to time it to make any realistic use out of it

[reef field]

manual play is fine unless you have someone that needs full attention

alice / biscuit

[errant loom]

buff crown! make her heal like blanc

[limber trout]

She taunts every 26.6s

[errant loom]

well as good as blanc

[limber trout]

Which is gay

[reef field]

can we start doomposting crown now?

[ocean sphinx]

they should make the taunt and invuln last like 15 sec each

[limber trout]

Why

[ocean sphinx]

very balanced

[reef field]

from what i gather

[limber trout]

What if these are lvl1 values

[reef field]

oh interesting

kilo also lvl 1 value?

that would be very interesting

[limber trout]

Perhaps

[ocean sphinx]

lvl 1 values on her s1 and burst would be crazy

[limber trout]

Now do ×1.69

[ocean sphinx]

honestly, if they're trying a non-healing way to provide sustain, and they succeed, that would be great

maybe the burst shield + whatever s2 is doing is enough

[limber trout]

She just needs to be like noise

[errant loom]

espcially if its not tied to another unit

[limber trout]

And then she's sustainable

[ocean sphinx]

that would make her the best sustain for high deficit

[errant loom]

would love a solo sustain that is in fact solo

[limber trout]

Providing Shield every burst is good

[reef field]

you want crown for campaign?

[ocean sphinx]

that would be nice

[reef field]

i think naga is way better

because sniper team is meta

[ocean sphinx]

otherwise she's t3-5 in raid and tower only

[reef field]

yeah that's what it looks like

t3 sr is no joke though

[ocean sphinx]

well tbf that's kinda where doro ended up

so ig that's quite likely

[reef field]

she'll be a campaign contender once we get characters that beat alice and rh but aren't snipers

[ocean sphinx]

I'm thinking running 3 DPS setups that need more than 2 rotations if she's good in campaign

she can also replace modernia role for hitcount raptures

[reef field]

that's a very tough campaign team to build

1-1-3 no alice no mod no rh lol

otherwise just run school girls

[ocean sphinx]

if her buffs result in similar dmg boost to tia + naga, and her sustain is good enough, it should be a dps increase, just run 3 dps

basically the tia naga 3 DPS 2 rotation setup, but you can do more rotations

[reef field]

atk% has reduced effectiveness pretty hard in deficits

and that's what crown brings

[ocean sphinx]

if her s1 is a good enough atk% buff, and burst is a good enough atk dmg buff, she's really just missing the core dmg

[reef field]

iron

[regal sky]

Is crown a pilgrim

Fuck

[reef field]

yeah if these are her lvl 1 skills

or if they just buff her w/e can easily happen

crown would turn out fantastic

[ocean sphinx]

I can't run tia naga 3 dps setup anyway since no RH, so crown would be my only way to possibly run a good 3 dps setup

[reef field]

ah that changes things

[ocean sphinx]

tbh I don't even have a good enough 3rd dps on my account rn

[reef field]

do you not have maxwell

she can be extremely op on some stages

[ocean sphinx]

she's low invest, but maybe

would need burst gen anyway

using mod + bscar rn

I ain't spamming alice

[reef field]

my logitech mouse is a real gamer chair for my alice

same for my biscuit

otherwise i wouldn't spam them either

but i was thinking about how good crown is in biscuit team

[ocean sphinx]

at low invest, auto alice does more dmg than me spamming alice

idk if it's a sub-100% CS issue or just skill issue on my part

[reef field]

doro / biscuit/ crown / sanis / priv

crown s1 also buffs during biscuit bursts

crown should easily fit into t3 at least sr

[ocean sphinx]

I spam tia pretty well in coop, so maybe it's not fully skill issue?

by low invest alice I mean 0 invest (1/1/1)

[reef field]

is your account new?

[ocean sphinx]

fairly new, xlud banner

[reef field]

like alice is pretty much a major priority

yeah that's pretty new

[ocean sphinx]

I don't want to build alice bc I'm worried I'll suck at spamming her

[reef field]

even on auto she's fantastic

ai is not that slow that she sucks

[ocean sphinx]

well maybe I'll revisit the alice situation if crown is good enough that I can 3 dps

otherwise I'll just stick to mod + bscar

[reef field]

i can highly recommend alice for campaign even on auto esp with your situation that has no rh

[ocean sphinx]

yeah I've seen ppl using high invest alice to replace rh

my bscar does that too, but worse, but good enough that I don't feel the need to build alice

[reef field]

do you use the bunnies rn?

[ocean sphinx]

nah using tiga

needed the burst gen being the main reason why

if I go liter crown support core, I'll need my 3rd dps to be a SR for the burst gen anyway

so rn that's either maxwell or alice

[reef field]

100% alice

[ocean sphinx]

maxwell has buff, but heavily diluted, while alice is a pain to build and use, but buffs bscar

[reef field]

let the ai play alice dw about it

biscuit is probably a lot worse on ai

[ocean sphinx]

I got a single manu piece on alice, that might be an issue

[reef field]

by the time you have 10/x/10 you will be another month in

[ocean sphinx]

I'm getting ahead of myself, will see how crown turns out before I start making plans

[reef field]

do you have normal scarlet?

[ocean sphinx]

yeah

2 OL, 1 ammo, not very good

about on par with my emilia on a boss with no parts

[reef field]

1-1-3 with scarlet is still nice on story stages but i guess sbs just beats her? i've never used sbs on story

[ocean sphinx]

I use scarlet when I need quick insta screen wipe, and that's it

I use bscar for everything else

[limber trout]

These were crown stats

Roughly

Does crown have part dmg buff

Why is first shot 4291
But second shot 5579

[reef field]

is not crit?

[limber trout]

Both numbers are white

[limber trout]

Oh fuck

It's range bonus

[copper shell]

i think just like even a pure support

as long as the buffs are strong just qualify as op at base

liter is still top 3 most important units in the game and its been 18 months

[dark dove]

no CDR, huh?

[copper shell]

nope, its reload speed

[dark dove]

For Anis team, probably?

[reef field]

rn looks very strong for anis teams

[hoary adder]

priv is still bis for ass because of ammo halving and more reload speed

and more reload speed is wasted on priv+ass because ass s1+priv s1+resil is already 110% reload speed

25% is a bit too generic and not high enough to warrant a bis slot for any team

[elfin burrow]

Doesn't ass reload speed cap at 90%?

So Priv is overkill

Ammo halving would be the only reason to keep her

She does not gain further benefits from reload speed beyond 90% due to fire-rate restrictions.

From Prydwen, I'm just assuming they didn't make that fact up

But that means Ass S1 + Crown + Resil is already enough

[plain glen]

you have to run privaty for the parts where ass isn't bursting

[elfin burrow]

Again, only for the ammo halving

[sinful aurora]

The reload can go to 110%

But it is shotgun as that holds you back

[elfin burrow]

https://blog.prydwen.gg/2023/08/05/summer-anis-review-and-ratings/

Wow Prydwen is full of lies then

I dunno what tests they ran, to be clear

[sinful aurora]

Because you are forced to wait 0.67s between hit

That 0.67s can include reload time and cover time

[hoary adder]

at 100% reload speed you still spend a frame reloading

[sinful aurora]

Not a frame

[hoary adder]

at 110% it’s instant

[sinful aurora]

Actually 22 frames

[hoary adder]

well if you control ass during her burst you can shoot forever

[sinful aurora]

And at 110 it is 11 frames

[hoary adder]

but usually you have to control biscuit with macaroni

[sinful aurora]

Wow all the misinformation

[hoary adder]

https://tenor.com/view/omw-to-spread-misinformation-all-over-the-internet-gif-26525511

[elfin burrow]

To be clear, is it worth going over 90% reload with summer Anis?

[sinful aurora]

Not

Her reload and cover time at that point is smaller than 0.67s

So she will wait 0.67s between shot

[elfin burrow]

In that case crown + anis S1 + resilience cube is enough reload both during and outside of burst, it's only the ammo halving that keeps Privaty in the team.

[sinful aurora]

Fyi, clip sg only needs 70% reload

Because their reload is also shorter when you force them hitting

[mortal quarry]

yeah but is ASS clip

[elfin burrow]

Force them hitting?

[sinful aurora]

Clip ass

[elfin burrow]

Imagine being able to just load a clip instead of whole ammo lol

Broken

Is any last bullet character clip? I feel like it would make manual control mandatory

[sinful aurora]

Peppe the pig

[limber trout]

Bruh
Anis release was 9 months ago

No one did this math back then, reload math was done during tove banner iirc

[agile beacon]

Tove wasn’t Stove, that was a shocker

I think Crown will probably want a B3 healer unless she’s just going to play stopgap measure, no healing needed

[limber trout]

All i knew back then was to tell people to use anis with privaty
This still holds up

[sinful aurora]

I ran the test on pepper dont you remember?

[limber trout]

during tove right?

Or no?

[sinful aurora]

To verify even at 110% reload, pepper cant shoot faster than 0.67s

That was with sanis

[agile beacon]

Whose taunt will have precedence, Crown or Noise’s?

[limber trout]

Also
Damn, this was before
Dedicated reviews were a thing

[agile beacon]

When Crown S2 triggers, I mean

[limber trout]

Which means me and gatrix just joined that chat a month ago or smthng

[sinful aurora]

Depend on taunt type

[reef field]

crown over poli/marciana not over priv

[limber trout]

@agile beacon

https://discord.com/channels/968096627002851379/1201720306981408779

[sinful aurora]

Provocation buff has lower prio than taunt

[agile beacon]

RIP, so Noise will hold aggro even when Crown turns invincible

[hoary adder]

what about sustain?

no biscuit/marci

[reef field]

i always use biscuit + poli

[limber trout]

Bro crown is the sustain wdym

[reef field]

why would poli work but not crown

[limber trout]

Crown is taunt every 20second

[hoary adder]

for how long?

[limber trout]

3s

I think?

That's what the pin says

[hoary adder]

[reef field]

my poli works

[agile beacon]

Don’t diss it. She’s invincible during those 3s

[reef field]

don't see any reason for crown not to

[limber trout]

Poli doesn't even have heal

[hoary adder]

no, ass usually takes aggro on burst and biscuit gives lifesteal

[reef field]

alright that still functions

[limber trout]

I know
So why use poli??

Anyways, the purpose of crown will be to be like rem.
Instead of heal, she needs to be able to taunt. If she can't do that she's S tier, not even SS tier because then she's just another fucking novel.

[limber trout]

And if we put crown in S tier I hope we get riots again

[hoary adder]

so you’re saying run biscuit AND crown?

[reef field]

yes

[limber trout]

I'm saying that biscuit benched.

[reef field]

crown replaces poli

[hoary adder]

bruh

[reef field]

oh you wanna do 1-1-3?

[limber trout]

Yes

[reef field]

i thought about it

crown s1 works with biscuit burst too

[limber trout]

If crown is 30% attack damage at skill lvl1 why the hell would I want to use biscuit

[reef field]

yeah fuck biscuit

i assume scarlet is in with sanis then

[elfin burrow]

Clearly it's time for XRupee to return so she can get both S.anis and Crown damage buffs /s

[dapper sleet]

huh

[reef field]

my thought was doro biscuit crown sanis priv

but if biscuit can get yeeted

doro sanis scar priv why not

[dapper sleet]

wudnt that just lose to elegg lol

[limber trout]

The situation right now is that any unit good at one thing only isn't good enough (unless they're a DPS)

If you want to be slotted into B1/B2/flex spot, you need to do at least 2 things of the following:

• heal / protection
• cdr
• offensive support

[dapper sleet]

yep

[limber trout]

Novel only does one so she's been benched for like 8 raids

[dapper sleet]

[elfin burrow]

I dunno if biscuit-less s.anis teams will have burst Regen to match cdr, especially if taking privaty

[dapper sleet]

s.anis is not locked to doro

[limber trout]

If crown isn't like Moran level tanker, it's fucking over

Cuz then she's just novel 2.0

[limber trout]

unless her ability to provide shields to every unit saves her I guess

[dapper sleet]

10b hp shield to each ally

ezpz

core 7 time

[agile beacon]

I don’t understand why there’s suspicion she’s possibly mid

Her kit sounds pretty great, just needs details to be confirmed officially

[limber trout]

Do you consider novel pilgrim level good?

[dapper sleet]

cuz if her s2 doesnt fully taunt, shes just a damage buffer

[hoary adder]

she’s not mid, she’s just hard to slot in

[reef field]

crown s1 should activate when biscuit bursts

so i thought it would be nice but idk how if eleg beats crown

[hoary adder]

competing with duos

[limber trout]

The doomposting is:
If crown cannot protect the team

she's novel 2.0

[agile beacon]

No

[dapper sleet]

yea but elegg is electric AND support so fits a bit better there

[elfin burrow]

Also if taking privaty her reload buff is near useless. Unless people are gonna swap resilience for the hit rate cube or something lol

[agile beacon]

That’s actually another good question I want to ask

Suppose Privaty didn’t halve ammo, but you still got her S1 reload speed and ATK buffs

[jovial quartz]

dont worry guys, if we whine hard enough, SU will buff her

[agile beacon]

Would she still be amazing for Doro and S Anis?

[limber trout]

Privaty is used for last bullet proc dude
There's no other ammo reduction so no point discussing this

[dapper sleet]

no priv wud b dogshit lol

[reef field]

half ammo is what makes priv insane for last bullet

[elfin burrow]

Sorry this was me piling onto the "she might be mid" to be clear

[limber trout]

Without privaty you lose 1 to 1.5 full bursts with Dorothy. Which is nuts

[elfin burrow]

As in "her best team doesn't even want her reload speed"

[dapper sleet]

give another team wide ammo halfing unit and i can raise my priv s2 to 10

[reef field]

reload speed is never bad unless you have infinite ammo

[elfin burrow]

The "her reload buff" referring to crown's reload buff

[elfin burrow]

S.Anis team is already running over 100% reload tho

[dapper sleet]

wats the issue with that

on s.anis?

[jovial quartz]

think its safe to reset novel at this rate?

[limber trout]

I've alrdy reset her lol

Only reason to keep her is coop and I think crown overshadows novel in coop

[reef field]

do we split sanis away from doro? seems creative

[limber trout]

So I genuinely think it's over for novel

[jovial quartz]

sweet never OL'ed her

ez whitewash

[dapper sleet]

this was never a guaranteed combo, u run this for the biscuit needs

[elfin burrow]

I'm just saying the reload buffs in Crown's kit won't actually make a noticeable difference for Sanis/Privaty team, unless you have a high investment hit-rate cube to swap resilience for which is pretty cope.

So another reason she might end up mid tier

[limber trout]

Sakura novel b3 b3 b1
Or
B1cdrhealer Novel b3 b3 Shelm

This is the only way she can slot into teams

[reef field]

mid tier when you only consider raid meta

[limber trout]

4 B1cdr: liter, Doro, volume, DWife

4 comps that require B1cdr:
Rem, crown, bunnies, tiga

Unless you want to demote crown or rem to team 5, novel gets no b1cdr

[dapper sleet]

eh i think crown will be okay

team 4 or 5

[reef field]

if her numbers aren't good let's ask for buffs

[limber trout]

If she's a good tank
Crown is like
25% attack damage
60% atk buffs

[dapper sleet]

yea but those are over 10 seconds or higher

novels issue is its 5 seconds so the DPS damage needs to be compressed into first 5 seconds

which is like sw mw

[limber trout]

15s for attack damage
10s for atk buff

She's team 3 if she comes

As expected

[dapper sleet]

it really depends on the taunt

and how long she can absorb dmg

im expecting it to be volume crown but who knows

[limber trout]

She has 4% heal when her stacks reach 20

[ocean sphinx]

[dapper sleet]

cant operate on that video #s lol

just use the skill effects without regards to the numbers

hopefully shitup gets us good numbers

[ocean sphinx]

her heal needs to be decently sized and given to team

[dapper sleet]

she is a damage support with potential to be a decent taunter/shielder

[ocean sphinx]

otherwise it doesn't really matter how much she heals herself

[elfin burrow]

Crown can also be an investment for future .5 burst units

[limber trout]

not really

[elfin burrow]

E.g. if we ever get a .5 Attacker crown would love them

[hoary adder]

best bet is to put crown on t4 with volume/liter if she can’t solo tank and sustain for doro ass (or you slot in a healer/biscuit as well for the team)

[elfin burrow]

Giving her ATK buff to an extra ally

[reef field]

crown with helm and a bunch of good machine guns w/e

or ar

[limber trout]

Best bet is tier lists rank her S tier and then we riot to get redhood 2.0

[dapper sleet]

you'll only use biscuit if theres parts to splash or you need cover recovery. doro biscuit s.anis priv is not a "for sure" comp

[sinful aurora]

[reef field]

let's promise to riot even if she's ss tier

[dapper sleet]

we need diora to rant on arca

[limber trout]

Easy to rile up Reddit
Just post prydwen ratings

[dapper sleet]

honestly i dont mind her being S tier

im saving for nikke 2

[limber trout]

People skipped 4 banners for Anniv

[sinful aurora]

Mid

Trust

[reef field]

i can't bring myself to care for pilgrim tower

if she's not team 3 she's no pull

[elfin burrow]

Bait for Indivilia & Anachiro, clearly

[sinful aurora]

Kilo is your real savior

[limber trout]

Is kilo good actually? I haven't seen her kit

[sinful aurora]

Then see

[limber trout]

She seemed pretty ok

[sinful aurora]

[agile beacon]

Well, how was Smol White?

[limber trout]

Like swid lvl dps

[limber trout]

Good

[sinful aurora]

45% max hp translated into wipe aoe

[limber trout]

If Smolly was MG
She would be god

[sinful aurora]

With noise and mast, should kill all atk and sp

[agile beacon]

Kilo is Missilis, but also the first real mech, and is part of 1.5, and they want to attract new users… Kilo is probably going to be decent or good

Imagine going through chapters 1 to 16 with Kilo MLB

Well not 1

[limber trout]

45% max HP???
Mast relevant again??

[agile beacon]

Gotta be strong enough to beat event story sufficiently in 1.5

[severe yew]

what does this mean the 3(?)

[limber trout]

Wait isn't that really good for campaign??

[limber trout]

Not confirmed

[elfin burrow]

Kilo won't be friends with Crown tho, Crown's taunt requires bring highest HP right?

[limber trout]

We assume it's 3s

[reef field]

kilo functions on hp buff

[sinful aurora]

For campaign, it is like priv m burst only

[limber trout]

Cuz it looks like 3s in the video

[limber trout]

Sounds higher

[sinful aurora]

Without buffer, gotta find a way to increase it

But lap is gone