[Bay] New Unit Megathread

[sturdy vigil]

even

[rose valley]

you think rh respects taunts

[sturdy vigil]

mention anything beside Anis?

[native basin]

yes

[rose valley]

anyway, no longer bayless

[native basin]

i actually wall RH alot

[native basin]

3 unit resist > 1 resist

[sturdy vigil]

[native basin]

it also depends on ur attacker i guess

[sturdy vigil]

if you want to cut my words like that

[native basin]

like if u have scar does sanis rly matter

[sturdy vigil]

Scar Jack will lose to Sanis Jack

[native basin]

if sanis jack doesnt break the link

my sanis has always died to scarlet s2

unless im an rng god

sometimes my sanis dies to scarlet s2 even before i burst

[sturdy vigil]

• SG will die to Scarlet around 2.5 RL
• SG with Jackal link will, therefore, die around 5 RL (10 SG)
• Sanis ALWAYS hits Noah during FB

[native basin]

until noise taps her

and then u die

[sturdy vigil]

if u like, I can make Sanis stays P1

easier hitting Noise

[native basin]

i mean sanis vs scarlet

has been tried alot in rookie vs godcomp

thats when people started teching in rosanna

[sturdy vigil]

just copy the same god comp but replace Scarlet into Sanis

why don't you explain to me Noah Noise Rapunzel Jackal Sanis, Sanis somehow shoots anything beside Noah during FB?

and Sanis's also killed by Scarlet before burst too

[native basin]

god comp sanis vs godcomp scar wasnt consistent win

until rosanna tech in to break link

[rose valley]

Yeah.

[midnight basin]

Yeah.

[deep hedge]

nice rap

[inland palm]

Made a rap song using only 1 word

[gleaming magnet]

didn't know Bay was chill like that fr fr

[flat agate]

She’s a good scarlet nuke counter when you’re attacking. She can also fit into stall comps. I can’t seem to make her work in my defense teams

[tawny lake]

Probably because she doesn’t help much if she dies quickly without having performed a successful AoE block, and before healers can make use of the spread damage to pump effective healing

If both criteria fails, Bay only slightly delayed the death of your carries

And even with Scarlet, if she’s faster to the AoE burst than your Bay or even Noah could burst, your team explodes all the same…

[compact sedge]

So bay

[vestal narwhal]

hi bay

[coarse tundra]

Bay b?

[vestal narwhal]

Bay c

[amber lance]

[graceful berry]

So, not even good as a battery?

[clever dragon]

we have enough options to not care about bay as a battery

[coarse tundra]

Just a normal RL, there are way better options for batteries. You simply use her for her burst

[humble valve]

Bay bait banner

[barren gorge]

Literally bayt lmao

[tawny lake]

So Bay redirects damage to cover. She also buffs cover max HP.

Dolls give as much as 30% more cover.

What’s the interaction here? Is it just additive to Bay’s cover hp buff?

[drowsy cape]

just think of it as cover hp buff, like noise's

two hp buffs = additive

otherwise its multiplicative
100 becomes 130

[mellow sluice]

pvp meta

[barren crater]

Might get her treasure just for art because I don't even play pvp ... but if poli gets 20 cd burst or julia becomes meta crit support I'll do them first

Kinda funny how they know bay is so ass she is already getting her own treasure. I thought she's just pvp unit and doesn't need a buff

[tawny lake]

ShiftUp is 1,000% not interested whatsoever is balance or fairness

They likely determined internally a few popular or in-demand characters and decided to pick them

[drowsy cape]

i will pvp anyone for her now

[tawny lake]

Characters like Folkwang for example probably rock bottomed out in being unpopular (a guess of mine)

Yet there were people wishing Julia didn't suck hehe (I see more of this than for Folkwang, unscientifically)

[barren crater]

Interesting

Well as long as they bring one sexy character with hot art every treasure batch I accept this

[pale burrow]

Clay treasure when?

[barren gorge]

I NEED MATS

[mellow sluice]

[mellow sluice]

ik that censor make it more spicey but for real?

[barren gorge]

pp never points to the wrong thing. Last time I went for pp helm treasure and was rewarded

But fr tho

Doing this for PvP

Cuz I know some fuckers will try to use her there

precautionary measures basically

Plus seggs lobby.

Win win

[kind surge]

is bay good now

should i doll poli julia tove

will poli be pvp

[barren gorge]

Blue mats babyyyyy

[barren gorge]

Find out next time on dragon ball Z

[barren crater]

Would be funny if they reworked her kit to not be pvp slave and gave her true dmg something buffa so she would be used with clay

One can cope

[mellow sluice]

true dmg is trash anyway

[barren crater]

[sturdy vigil]

good but not meta breaking

[errant flame]

I'd say it fixes her issue of using her in pvp

bay felt awkward as fuck to use in pvp because as a defender you needed to baby her until you burst

[bright hound]

[vapid bluff]

Not gonna change anything imo

Ppl already use bay in safe spots

You get heals on charge and that's it

Even if you try to p1, the 20% rebuilt might just break before you get nuked

[rose valley]

maybe a really invested tbay can now properly tank multi hits nuke like cindy's

[vapid bluff]

Bay already can

[sturdy vigil]

the only gain is the 4% heal

it's pretty damn good

[vapid bluff]

If bay is cast before Cindy, bay has infinite cover for Cindy main hits

[sturdy vigil]

16 - 20% of a defender hp means if she and your dps are the only one survive

you will lose lol

oh nvm she won't heal herself

[vapid bluff]

Bay always the one to die first is the problem

[sturdy vigil]

pretty much Rapunzel

[vapid bluff]

Esp on Helmt teams

So she's healing team when they're basically already at full or close

Maybe if you throw in a biscuit it can do something

[sturdy vigil]

she gains something, but not meta breaking. Just like Tove

good qol

I guess season 2 was kinda overboard

Helm becomes entirely new character lol

[vapid bluff]

At least her s1 is p1

So very cheap

[errant flame]

yeah it's a minor thing but it helps her be less awkward to use is all

[raw field]

that's so backwards wtf

[compact sedge]

Wheres the kit

[barren gorge]

Yea where treasure

[compact sedge]

No one loves Bay

😦

[somber birch]

■ Activates when using Burst Skill, only if self is alive. Affects all allies.
Proportionally shares damage taken continuously.
DEF ▲ 10.13% of the caster's DEF continuously.

■ Activates when performing Full Charge attacks. Affects all allies (except self).
Recovers 4% of caster's final Max HP.

■ Activates when using Burst Skill, only if self is alive. Affects self's cover.
Proportionally shares damage taken continuously.

■ Activates when Full Burst ends. Affects self.
Continuously recovers Cover's HP equal to 2.88% of caster's final Max HP every 1 sec for 5 sec.

■ Activates when entering Burst Stage 1 and self's cover has been destroyed. Affects self.
Recovers 20% of caster's final Max HP.

■ Affects self if self's cover has been destroyed.
Rebuild Cover with 20% HP. Activates once per battle.

■ Affects self.
Max HP of Cover ▲ 18% of caster's Max HP for 20 sec.

■ Affects all allies.
Damage Taken ▼ 8.87% for 10 sec.

[barren gorge]

Thanks bro

I made the right choice

[compact sedge]

Whats with these treasures

@drowsy cape so uncreative and shit

[drowsy cape]

Blud I have an exam in an hour 💓💓

[compact sedge]

Theres literally only one good treasure

[compact sedge]

And Bay if u PvP is fine ig

[barren gorge]

Yea she’s good for PvP now

Better than before at least

[vapid bluff]

nothing about her actual results gonna change

[drowsy cape]

🐐

[barren gorge]

Good luck

[errant flame]

very important pin

[barren gorge]

What’s that

Tove?

[barren gorge]

indeed. She’s meta

[compact sedge]

Smh u have exam every 30 seconds

[barren gorge]

snek doing 2 bachelors and 3 masters

[clever dragon]

funny

if they released her kit + treasure into a single character it would still be a skip

i'll use it for ca though

[tribal linden]

bay can heal nero along with helm and rapunzel

[tawny lake]

But why

You brought Bay to Nero’s team for Bay to not burst?

I guess if you were worried about Nero exploding before B2 burst…

[bright hound]

Lobby is top tier

Must build

[tawny lake]

Or Nero being Sirened

[tawny lake]

Like this, right?

[tribal linden]

burst with bay for more damage cut?

or in case nero died early bay would burst still

[tawny lake]

Yep, I guess this is actually plausible

Just dunno how it holds up

[tribal linden]

around 9% more damage cut for everyone

[tawny lake]

Nah the goal is for Rapunzel and Bay to survive

Helm can die to AoE burst

As long as Nero, Moran, Rapunzel, and Bay are alive, it’s a lockdown

[tribal linden]

17+14+35+9 damage cut after moran B1 and BayT B2

[tawny lake]

Hmm do we just put Bay in p1?

[barren gorge]

told yall

[tawny lake]

Not sure that works because Nero gets heavy dmg redux from being heal spammed

[vapid bluff]

Gl blocking nuke with bursting bay

[barren gorge]

yea she's not that good

she just fixes some of her own bullshit

imo this is what her base should've been

[tribal linden]

so bursting with nero still better?

[barren gorge]

yeah

[vapid bluff]

Also you're losing lapt slot

Nero already gets max heal instances

[tawny lake]

Oh, two’s enough?

[tribal linden]

3RL time nero get max 5 stacks just from rapu helm yeah

but if with bay then 2RL time

[tawny lake]

And not only just 2RL time maxing, but also more heals onto Nero

[clever dragon]

burst with bay to survive cindy or scarlet when timed right

[tawny lake]

Could be the difference between dead or live Nero

[vapid bluff]

Helm should always give 3 even 2.5rl, since helm is the decider

You can't get 2rl burst without dropping someone else tho

At that point just run 2rl Moran bay helmt

That comp barely improved either

And nero needs Moran burst

[tribal linden]

forgot tempura

[vapid bluff]

Reaching 5 earlier shouldn't be a massive deal

Reaches 100 dr at same time regardless

[tawny lake]

You could try this gamba

Move Biscuit to p2 if paranoid about Helm dying

[vapid bluff]

More worried that scar just kills both b3 anyway

[clever dragon]

2.5 bay should block scar

[vapid bluff]

I haven't seen it happen bay delay is long

[clever dragon]

bay slow af?

time to build 2rl

[vapid bluff]

At least as slow as Noah

[clever dragon]

there could be a cs threshold where it is enough

[tawny lake]

Very determined? Will this beat anything?

Tbh it’s feeling like Nero + Moran is still better

Because Nero’s reliable

Heal her and the healer gets dmg redux

Even if team can only burst with Moran before death from above hits, everyone that healed has the best survival hope

[tribal linden]

fight this

[barren gorge]

truly delulu

[somber birch]

Can Lb2 for treasure now

[barren gorge]

after all this hoarding can't even get her s3

but the lobby tho

gyatt

[somber birch]

Whale

[barren gorge]

i wish

[static smelt]

SU didn't even buff her terrible %, -8% damage taken, huge. Very lazy treasure

[clever dragon]

this entire batch is lazy

which happens to be a good thing for tove because resetting for good rng was not for lazy people

[native basin]

does anyone have bay

can they test that it still shares dmg

and SU didnt just screw people over

[errant flame]

[meager siren]

only got p1

[vapid bluff]

Bay cover no longer blocks Cindy if treasured

So full treasure for bay brick

[clever dragon]

you're joking

i need to see a video

[sturdy vigil]

is that phase 2 Bay?

[vapid bluff]

Apparently yeah

[clever dragon]

wth why does it break

nice testing shift up

[sturdy vigil]

oh I just notice

[native basin]

does it break scarlet?

like will scar also destroy ur team?

[vapid bluff]

Not sure, haven't seen any other vids

[native basin]

perfect treasure

[sturdy vigil]

original Bay dmg share was 92% to cover, 7% to her which then distributed 40/15/15/15/15

[vapid bluff]

Should verify p1 just in case

[sturdy vigil]

treasure Bay seems to receives 92% dmg instead

[vapid bluff]

See if it still works there

[sturdy vigil]

[errant flame]

Treasure? more like 🧱

[native basin]

has anyone tried normal bay

after update

[clever dragon]

i can try normal bay maybe

what team vs this?

is this a joke

need to make 4rl bay

[sturdy vigil]

look

Helm takes full dmg

share wtf?

[clever dragon]

is that with or without treasure

[sturdy vigil]

with, phase 1

even phase 1 is enough to brick her

[errant flame]

gg

bay was given bricks those shoes are ruining her

[sturdy vigil]

I can see that she doesn't have dmg share buff to Nikkes

only to cover

need to check on an account withou treasure

[clever dragon]

i'm doing a fight now

no treasure bay

[vapid bluff]

[barren gorge]

wait what the fuck

[sturdy vigil]

after a bit more test

she loses all the share

be it to cover or Nikke

Bay just can't share any dmg taken anymore the moment you are in P1

[vapid bluff]

What about base bay

[toxic solar]

so shes bugged im guessing

[clever dragon]

dmg share works without treasure

[vapid bluff]

Phase 2

[barren gorge]

wait so treasuring her is just brick

wow

good

[vapid bluff]

Cp diff, so hard to tell

[vapid bluff]

But looks like cover didn't work here eithee

[clever dragon]

no treasure fight

[vapid bluff]

Ok base still good

[sturdy vigil]

there's no share

if shared, it would look like Bay took the most dmg, other took tiny dmg

[vapid bluff]

No cover dmg

So only base bay works

[barren gorge]

did they... actually test this shit

[vapid bluff]

Wow number 1 treasure

[clever dragon]

imagine getting treasure before fix

[barren gorge]

or is this on purpose

[rigid kestrel]

LMAO

[vapid bluff]

Number 1 worst

Raw brick with no upside

[barren gorge]

holy fuck

[rigid kestrel]

Tove is the only decent treasure

thats crazy

[clever dragon]

tove treasure is probably the second best in the game

[sturdy vigil]

Warning: There seems to have a bug that disable Bay's share damage the moment you finish Bay's treasure phase 1. She won't share any damage with teammates or her own cover anymore.

[errant flame]

CA about to happen with like P2 bays and people gonna wonder why they losing

[lucid imp]

What a dumb brick devs

[rigid kestrel]

wait have any one of the characters with 40cd get a reduction with treasures yet?

[native basin]

milk

[jovial plover]

Emergency maint for Bay treasure? Lmao

Gonna suck if her treasure actually bricked her main kit

[barren gorge]

wonderful

so treasures can nerf units now too

[barren gorge]

they'll tell you to clear cache

[native basin]

all the gooners getting her for lobby got bricked

[clever dragon]

it is so kind of you guys to do beta testing

this is the quality assurance shift up expects from you

[jovial plover]

Hopefully they fix it before CA starts. Wanted to try her out this round. But if it is failing to absorb AOE I might use Nero instead until she's fixed

[clever dragon]

you can't use bay in this state

[jovial plover]

Yeah

That's so peachy I swear

[clever dragon]

i don't think they will delay championships since it sems like an afterthought compared to soloraid

[jovial plover]

Yeah, they could care less for CA

What an enrichment experience for us

[sturdy vigil]

https://discord.com/channels/946719263866101821/1395402635636375612

they enbrick my 4 OL Bay

[jovial plover]

Yes

[barren gorge]

https://tenor.com/view/red-hood-nikke-goddess-of-victory-gif-13942247465087213069

well it’s good I don’t use her in arena… but fuck

[tribal linden]

her numbers increased significantly
damage taken numbers

[kind surge]

is bay good

[errant flame]

🧱

[barren gorge]

Lobby yes, everything else she gets nerfed

[wraith kestrel]

So, what's treasure bay supposed to do now?

[sturdy vigil]

wallpaper

[tribal linden]

BayT is baiting you to brick her from battle contents right now until fixed or proven intended feature

[bright hound]

The wallpaper is insane

[barren gorge]

so insane she brick herself in the process

but fr

i don't regret treasuring her

insane lobby

[jovial plover]

Lobby is peak

[clever dragon]

will shift up respond in time

[tawny lake]

This bug affecting CA sounds like cause for suspending and restarting CA

[sturdy vigil]

it's beta season

can have many bugs

except it's the 8th beta

aka 2 damn months now

wait no, each CA lasts around 2 weeks

so 4 months now

[clever dragon]

oh right beta

real rewards on our real accounts with permanent leadership boards

that kind of beta well programmed shift up

[rose valley]

dota 2 is still in beta too

[barren gorge]

there was a 30mb patch

did it fix bay?

[midnight basin]

nothing in system notice or twitter

didnt even acknowledge it yet

2 different CMs replied in Gatrix thread on maincord since it goes over mail to CS, could take like a week

[barren gorge]

Nice

Chumps arena starts soon

Waiting for peak comedy

[rugged wing]

[midnight basin]

@sturdy vigil can u verify

[barren gorge]

that was a fast fix

[rancid rose]

because the CA team building deadline is closing in few hours

[barren gorge]

damn

[rugged wing]

confirmed fixed

[barren gorge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1245939636702810225/1395246517094322187/ZRNn3lU.gif

time to seggs bay everyone

[jovial plover]

Just in time

Lol

[clever dragon]

maybe?

[native basin]

CA is a bug I'm pretty sure group stage tie breakers still broken no?

[sturdy vigil]

verified

[clever dragon]

so they can fix bugs on time if they want to

congrats shift up you saved the championships

[tribal linden]

now that bay is fixed should I work on bayT first or poliT first or juliaT
or milik or frima or diesel?

[barren gorge]

tove first

then bay

then idk whichever rocks your boat

[errant flame]

unless you know and what to try using them in pvp/niche comps then go for it

otherwise I'd say SKIP

[clever dragon]

since you're asking you might as well listen to my advice

do it in this order frima > diesel > milk > julia t > bay t > poli t

[errant flame]

or in the case of bay getting her just for her lobby scene

[tribal linden]

tove and doro already got their food to sr15 so now I kinda want to build some more for the following 6 months waiting time lol

[errant flame]

SR15 your meta DPS/caster's attack supports

[tribal linden]

then should I try to farm box or specific maintenance item in dispatch now

at least after done with tove

[errant flame]

rando box good if you have most treasures unlocked otherwise overfarm any you have fully unlocked

[tribal linden]

5 to 1 exchange rate
so if you have like more than 3/5 favorite items phase3 then box is better if my math is mathing right?

but depends on rng of the box a bit

[errant flame]

yeah

but you need a majority of the current treasures at P3

[tribal linden]

guess I'll go with same pace of building 2 more phase 3 treasures then back to pick box from dispatch after that

[rose valley]

honestly, they're not gonna break the meta for spvp while ca is rng-fest, so it doesn't matter

also i've yet to see if poli's police badge shield at the start is dispellable by rosanna or not

[tribal linden]

guess bay is looking better than poli cuz of heal and rebuild cover lol

poli indom is like makima at home imo

[rose valley]

the atk buff not being buffed is wild, 44% is pitiful for 2025 standards

[tribal linden]

I think not changing 40s -> 20s bricks her from pve content

[errant flame]

yeah the treasures this round seemed more like QoL updates to their kits

than actual balance updates to make them more viable

[barren gorge]

waiting for next helm like buff

[errant flame]

like most of them didn't even get number boosts to their shit kits

[keen pollen]

Makes sense for Tove since she was already meta on SR every time, and would be even more with SDorothy, but not the others

[errant flame]

I still would have liked some utility added to tove
mainly heals/shields/some survivability for a person that goes on about SURVIVAL

[clever dragon]

something on her burst would have been really nice instead of that skippable whatever it has

[midnight basin]

verified fixed?

[mellow sluice]

Rng box can hit the item u want or also one u can exchange

[native basin]

if opening a box (new units i want + 1/5*completed treasure)/total treasures rate is < 20% its still better to just stock up a completed treasure since its guaranteed 1/5 and i get to pick. assuming i wont treasure the bad ones ever

[mellow sluice]

Yea that 0.6 is guaranteed, everything u see in table under it is rng

[vapid bluff]

Might as well build bay

Costs 0 mats

Bc phase 1 is the only useful one

P2 and p3 do literally nothing unless you do p1 bay

[tribal linden]

rng kits used from R0->SR15

[vapid bluff]

Just get lucky

Poli I'm waiting for ppl to test p3 before I consider

[tawny lake]

Nice, it’s fixed

[errant flame]

only for them to break something else by fixing it

[rancid carbon]

i can't tell which is better between poli & bay

bay wallpaper is better

[sturdy vigil]

then show

don't tell

[tawny lake]

Which would you rather touch?
Fluffy
Bouncy

[rancid carbon]

I just want to be the very best in pokemon pvp

[rose valley]

both bay and poli aren't meta breaking for spvp enough

and that's where pvp matters most

CA is rng fest

maybe there's fringe cases where you can use poli to attack but any pvp enjoyer with robust roster can break any defense that isn't cp gap

[kind surge]

bay maybe more useful than poli

in both ways

[tawny lake]

If you can prove that Bay with treasure can sit in p1, tank, burst, and block Scarlet AoE, she’s much better than Poli

You can even put Biscuit with Bay then if the p1 Bay is reality

Don’t worry about Siren

It’s the proving that it works which matters

If still paranoid about Siren too much to let it go, then try Bay p2

[vapid bluff]

p1 bay isn't tanking anything unless using biscuit

she'll just block nuke then die in a few seconds

to actually use bay properly you still gotta keep her safe, so that her phase 1 can actually heal the units taking the dmg

[rose valley]

if she tanks a nuke for the whole team, her job is done

[vapid bluff]

then she doesn't need treasure at all

[tawny lake]

It gives her 20% cover rebuild when she bursts

That’s why the ideas of putting her in p1

Before, it implied she’d lose all cover while in p1

Now, she might have cover to redirect to by the time enemy b3 bursts

Or if not, then it’s basically too slow enemy to matter anyway

[vapid bluff]

the only comps where you really wanna put her p1 over other units are comps that already rely on post burst sustain

otherwise it should be fairly easy putting her p2 or even p3

plus nothing's stopping enemy helmt just just killing her in p1 either with or without treasure

like I fail to think of a comp where bay's job is to only block nuke, where you can't just put her in a safer spot

[tribal linden]

they could have given bay more burst gen to 2RL this comp

bay would also heal nero and her B2 give around 9% more damage cut on top of tempura nero->healer dolls and moran burst

[main talon]

Never gonna get her weapon.. so does she bang commander in her story? wallpaper looks quite spicy

[sturdy vigil]

yes

that's why she's so sweaty

[bright hound]

Yeah they did the Kamasutra, now go build her

[native basin]

doesnt that just put nero in p5 without taunt aka ur only tanking shotgun on defense?

her burst is the taunt right?

[tribal linden]

moran would override nero attact anyways at least for 3 highest final atk
cuz taunt prioritize over attract when moran shoot final bullet

at least nero attract got 15 sec though

nero will survive at p5 cuz of damage cut but I don't think the team is worth using bay over other dps like lapT xmaiden if her damage cut doesn't make much difference

[native basin]

yea but usually in p1/2 u take dmg with the DR, nero in p5 doesnt really get hit does she

[native basin]

just seems like shes just kinda there

[tribal linden]

it's sad to try to use moran burst and bay burst and not nero and rapunzel burst in that team
but if stalled long enough nero will do second burst

[native basin]

true

[tribal linden]

I'm not too experienced about attract priority

if you activate attract later will you be targeted?

[native basin]

iirc taunt(debuff) > attract, taunt is last application attract is first application

[tribal linden]

but moran got taunt > attact moran vs nero'a attact

if moran 4 sec taunt ran out whose attact get targeted
in case your moran got many ammo lines

trying to make nero get to countered more with her burst

[native basin]

should be first application of attract iirc but idk if that still stands after taunt override reset

[tribal linden]

at least for CA that bay nero moran might do something ig if you want like lapT in other team

9% more damage cut from bay's burst might be the difference lol

[timber whale]

Has anyone gotten Bay's favorite item yet? How is it?

Aside from it being a PvP item.

[barren gorge]

See pin

That’s all

That’s the reason we getting her treasure

[tawny lake]

Bay DMG distribution (after cover is broken):

without Jackal:
Bay - 40
other 4 - 15

So if Scarlet AoE nukes, she'll do only 15% dmg per character and Bay is overkilled?

Ah, distribution.. so 5 hits x 15 = 75% of Scarlet's dmg dealt to each character

In other words, Bay presence reduces Scarlet AoE nuke damage by 25%, but will blow up

How does Bay work with Biscuit in this situation, does Bay take a lump sum damage and instantly die while everyone else takes only 75% Scarlet damage?

Or does Bay become invincible after saving 2 characters (ate 80%+ dmg) and the remaining 3 still takes 75% Scarlet damage?

Moran alone can reduce dmg taken by 35.14%. That, by itself, can be insufficient and whole team can die to Scarlet AoE nuke when buffed by just Trina

25% by itself is no good. Bay with no Moran is insufficient unless her cover is intact to absorb the AoE nuke

[native basin]

scarlet calculates it all as a single instance of damage so bay will eat % of the entire burst even if its over her max hp, thats how cover share worked

[tawny lake]

She explodes, then, unless already invincible. Ouch

[native basin]

yup

[tawny lake]

How does cover damage work in pvp if Bay is in p1? I never gave it thought

Like does cover rapidly drop to 0% and is destroyed, even if the enemy team is all rocket launchers shooting at Bay?

Within 2RL-2.5RL?

And how does Scarlet destroy the cover of a p1 RL like Bay? Does she damage it at all?

Ah, had a video of a character that never ducks into cover because she's AR with high ammo. This is right after B1 bursted

So, quite brutalizes the p1 cover even if the character wasn't ducking in and out of cover like a sniper/launcher

This team did that

Hmm but this one Cindy nuked

So Bay p1 isn't necesarily that cover is doomed 100% of the time

Since if Cindy nuked at this point in time, Scarlet also would be nuking, which means if Bay had this, she'd redirect the Scarlet AoE to cover and survive

Yeah, it's plausible. Here, Scarlet AoE nuked. This Noah still had a tiny bit of cover left even as she died. Noah didn't get to burst, so her invincible played no role here.

So while risky, it seems like all the talk of, "Don't put Bay in p1" is overblown. It's riskier, to be sure, but not guaranteed uselessness

Unless, I'm missing something important

[native basin]

it depends on how many rl they have (sp has more usually)

u also have to remember its taking full damage inbetween bay bursting and scar bursting

[tawny lake]

Yeah, that's offset by the cover heal on her burst (it's based on her max hp)

It'll "heal" (repair) the cover for about 1/5th or so if it's burst level 10

Which is to say, the odds are looking good, though there will still be a chance of total failure (which is, Bay's cover was destroyed after she bursts and before the enemy nukes)

[sturdy vigil]

there's an annoying bug that if you set Bay's treasure version as wallpaper and login the game, it will freeze

the wallpaper I mean

only when the first wallpaper you see is Bay. Can reproduce it by removing all 4 other wallpapers and keep only Bay

[barren gorge]

ah yea i noticed it

weird as fuck shit

[tawny lake]

I'm starting to think that they discovered an OP combo with Bay and Biscuit, so they deliberately broke calculations against invincible characters

[vapid bluff]

how can they discover "op" combo if they don't play pvp

[barren gorge]

What’s the use of PvP when you have infinite gems

[graceful berry]

So... bay usable in pvp now? Or still low mid?

[native basin]

wasnt she useable in pvp before

[tawny lake]

She's been usable

Now better with treasure, but no change in general performance or role in pvp

At best, maybe she now can be risked in p1 or p2 and still have cover for enemy B3 AoE nuke

Otherwise, with no treasure, it's risky to let enemy damage her cover a lot before the enemy B3 AoE nuke since if it's destroyed by then, the AoE nuke probably wipes team

[graceful berry]

Usable? Sure, mid tier? I guess she is still that.

Its not top 15 for sure. so no reason to have her. I was just hoping she would jump up like Helm did.

[native basin]

she jumps even without treasure

shes a cheer leader

just not in power

[barren gorge]

She makes my dih jump up that’s all I can ask from her

[meager siren]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1265128506950422709/1357353974004453587/4x.avif

[coarse tundra]

Just got lucky spending only 100 blue and 20 purple kits to get from SR0 -> SR15

[meager siren]

thats beyond lucky

[winter kernel]

This is funny
All that treasure, only still at the same tier and rating

[meager siren]

same for poli

at least the bay wallpaper is worth it

[bright hound]

Bay wallpaper is

[barren gorge]

SSS lobby

[crude galleon]

bay in pvp is usefull? or just trush