#[Rem] New Unit Megathread

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fleet light
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True

spark pulsar
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One time thing

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Will never happen again

fleet light
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Still means they make a difference. aSataniaMuhaha Dupes are definitely the bigger deal tho

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And, as you said, proper investment

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not putting OL gear on Privaty and bricking comps kek

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Okay, healing Scarlet test #3

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Let's gooo

peak hearth
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That reminds me

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This is why Scarlet healing looked bad to everyone that tested

fleet light
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Even healthier šŸ‘€

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peak hearth
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Because Rem is diluting the heals to 5 squadmates, because the only way she can heal a non-RL is with the full-squad sharing of heals (which is only from Rem burst)

fleet light
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That's the only way she can heal Scarlet

drifting birch
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Does she dilute even when the squadmates are full HP?

fleet light
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Yes

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Because healing "occurs" even at full hp

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See my Dorothy

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drifting birch
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Ah, I see

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People were trying to heal Scarlet even though she's not RL

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That would explain why my A2 lived so well but Scarlet would not

peak hearth
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It can still work but means your Rem better be dishing out the damage big time during Full Burst

fleet light
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One of her potenital positions in SR is replacing Marciana, so it's a valid test

drifting birch
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I mean, she replaced Marciana 30 times in damage

fleet light
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Rem approaching beating Scarlet in damage vs an Electric weak boss

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drifting birch
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I'll consider more sustain in the 5th slot if I have to

peak hearth
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I think itā€™s more comfortable to say that Rem is meant to pair with RL(s), in Solo Raid, to especially heal herself and them during ā€œhighest ATKā€ focus firing from the boss

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And when it comes to healing her squad, her squad better not be trying to kill themselves

fleet light
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Laplace treasure gonna make her meta again copium

drifting birch
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I don't have the last dupe for Laplace.....

fleet light
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I got two more Laplace dupes pulling for Rem kek

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Let's try Biscuit deluthonk

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Though I feel like the burst competition is going to result in damage loss

drifting birch
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Yeah I'm not sharing Rem's burst with anyone

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Not allowed

peak hearth
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Noise going to be immortal with Rem at least

fleet light
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Question is will Biscuit's Supporter buff make up for some downtime on stacks

peak hearth
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RL taunter + Remā€™s spam heal = RL taunter doesnā€™t die easy

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Especially when healing rate relies on Remā€™s damage output, not the RL taunterā€™s

fleet light
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Yup

drifting birch
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Not wrong

peak hearth
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I donā€™t know in what fight this is useful, but itā€™s something

fleet light
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Potentially PvP

peak hearth
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And itā€™s not like you brought in a crippled B2 to pull this off. Rem deals damage

fleet light
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If the loss in burst gen is manageable

drifting birch
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Maybe idk

dreamy spire
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volume rem vesti isabel sakura

drifting birch
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If there's any boss where A2's AoE damage actually contributes more than other DPSes, it's good if she isn't taking damage

peak hearth
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I mean, if you have carries that keep dying to mechanics (not necessarily highest ATK) but if Noise would tank it, itā€™d be easy, but it keeps killing Noise because too much damageā€¦ maybe Rem can keep Noise alive

dreamy spire
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vesti's time to shine

grim pagoda
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Seems like both collab nikkes are meta?

peak hearth
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Emilia is niche / special meta, only serious competitors would care for her

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Or waifu-winters

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Rem isā€¦ meta for sure

spark pulsar
grim pagoda
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1 copy of Emilia seems very important for pvp

peak hearth
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Even with healing dilution, the fact she synergizes with RL carries or supports or tanks matters in a few places

drifting birch
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I'm not a waifu-winter, I'm a waifu-spring

peak hearth
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And even without any RLs she still does well

grim pagoda
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Rem is more dps than healer?

spark pulsar
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Emilia: PvP enjoyers, solo raid niche enjoyers, new players
Rem: Solo Raid enjoyers, Union Raid enjoyers, new players

spark pulsar
grim pagoda
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Interesting

spark pulsar
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If she deals like 500 mil damage
She heals like 10 mil

grim pagoda
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Whatā€™s the recommended minimum skill investment?

peak hearth
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What do you think the risk is of Rem being supplanted within 2 months?

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All they have to do is release a B2 Pilgrim Supporter that is meta, etc

spark pulsar
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For now

grim pagoda
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10 is minimum?

spark pulsar
peak hearth
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Actually, Nevermind. Seems like Rem + Emilia will be around for a long time to fight fire element bosses

grim pagoda
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7/4/4 prob a good place to stop I guess

drifting birch
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Solo Raid has 5 teams, it's not possible for 1 Pilgrim to make Rem not useful

spark pulsar
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Hmm, I guess:
Starting -> Min -> F2P -> High
1/1/1 -> 7/4/4 -> 10/4/4 -> 10/7/10

drifting birch
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High is 10/10/10

spark pulsar
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Give me solid proof that S2 lvl10 is that much better

drifting birch
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Because she heals more

fleet light
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Scarlet > Biscuit

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spark pulsar
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The math says it isn't

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Or at least from my understanding she does good enough at 7

fleet light
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Yeah, having upgraded S2 to 9, I don't think it's high enough impact for cost

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Upgrading gear will make of the difference I want for healing Scarlet

drifting birch
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How do you calculate this?

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Since her healing depends directly on how much damage she deals, which varies with her gear, allies, boss having core, boss element, etc.

thick dock
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I know weā€™re still testing, any OL recommendations atm?

fleet light
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Element for sure

peak hearth
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Probably a straightforward ele,atk,ammo series of effects for Rem OL?

fleet light
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I'll leave it to the actual numbers people to determine if Crit Rate is worthwhile

spark pulsar
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OL recommendations (in order of priority)
4 ammo
4 ele
4 atk

Crit rate over atk is acceptable, but ATK is still better

spark pulsar
fleet light
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Yeah, that's what I figured

fleet light
thick dock
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Thank you

fleet light
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Core 5, S2 level 7 didn't perform much worse than Core Max, S2 level 9

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But the last few skill levels are insanely expensive mat-wise

harsh garden
fleet light
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maybe by limited Summer units kek

drifting birch
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That's reasonable

fleet light
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Shift Up doesn't seem to like giving us non-limited Water DPS

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and B2 DPS units are rare in general

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so I don't think she'll be easily replaced for SR, at least

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She's solid Team 3 material atm imo

drifting birch
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I don't know how motivated I am to bring Rem's burst to 10, instead of leaving it at 7

fleet light
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My dilemma atm is Emilia burst vs Rem burst thonk

grim pagoda
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Why? They are different bursts

fleet light
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They require the same mats

grim pagoda
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Ah. You mean leveling them

spark pulsar
fleet light
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ye

flat hinge
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Looks like she isn't that good as predicted, but still solid?
Unless people are tcing full water teams

grim pagoda
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Emilia burst to 6/7 for pvp. Looks like rem burst can stay at 4

spark pulsar
harsh garden
spark pulsar
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So: SSS tier DPS with S/A tier heals

glossy pond
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will mlb solve rem's healing teamwide?

fleet light
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English skill descriptions tricked people into thinking she'd just clone her healing on allies

drifting birch
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I would upgrade Rem over Helm because, if the healing becomes good enough at max level, I have a pretty good DPS to boot

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Helm does almost nothing by comparison

flat hinge
fleet light
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OL subs will make way more difference than dupes ever will

grim pagoda
fleet light
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Still helps

grim pagoda
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I guess we think of her as b2 dps. Healing is a small bonus

fleet light
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For example, Liter > Volume

spark pulsar
fleet light
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since her healing is based on attack damage, not Caster ATK, more buffs to her own damage increases her heals

spark pulsar
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So he can basically heal herself quite efficiently

But can't heal others as efficiently

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That's my take on it

fleet light
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Still better than Yuni

spark pulsar
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Austin has other thoughts
He thinks the healing is enough

drifting birch
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What is the "expected" max HP for nikkes in solo raid, at the forced level 300?

spark pulsar
flat hinge
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hmm, highest atk being targeted case on a supporter, a collab one at that

fleet light
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Very likely, actually

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cuz she gets Scarlet levels of ATK buff

spark pulsar
drifting birch
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She has a funny permanent 126.6% atk up at max stacks

fleet light
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S Anis can beat out Privaty in ATK pretty easily

cedar ledge
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Is rem worth pity?

fleet light
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Rem should be able to outdo even invested DPS units

cedar ledge
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It's my only pity thošŸ˜”

fleet light
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Aside from Scarlet, I guess

broken moss
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nb4 we get a re-enter burst 2 unit

fleet light
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Only pity... That's ultimately your call

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The biggest thing to consider is that collab units shouldn't be expected to ever return

modern heath
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hmm not good enough for solo heal, figured

spark pulsar
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Around that

fleet light
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so probably at the earliest we're looking at October until we get another unit that is truly limited

spark pulsar
cloud hull
fleet light
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Nah. She's with S Anis unless the boss deals too much damage

drifting birch
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So she shares 42.24% of her damage as healing across 5 nikkes at sl2 lvl 10, which would be 8.448% per nikke

spark pulsar
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If half anniv is a B2 as well, and a good B2 at that, emilia stays relevant while Rem becomes less relevant?

fleet light
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She was in last raid as well with 2B

spark pulsar
flat hinge
drifting birch
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If she deals 10M per burst, she heals 844800 on each nikke, which would be almost 1/3 of their full HP

spark pulsar
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Multiply damage during burst per shot by 600
And outside burst per shot by 300

cedar ledge
drifting birch
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Is that correct?

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33% heal per burst is nice, and 10M is not a high damage number per burst

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It could very well be higher with high investment, boss core, etc.

spark pulsar
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She deals 10M per burst Think

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We'll have to check that

fleet light
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Rem's good at keeping the team topped off, so she'd actually be fine in SRs like Chatterbox

drifting birch
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Liter buffs and the like would greatly change her damage

fleet light
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because the incoming damage isn't actually that frequent

spark pulsar
drifting birch
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What's bugged?

fleet light
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meanwhile for a boss like Stormbringer who's hitting the entire team constantly, it's more questionable

spark pulsar
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Cuz she ain't fkn healing 1/3rd of scarlet hp right?

fleet light
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Well Scarlet is also hurting herself

drifting birch
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Is she not?

spark pulsar
fleet light
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Ah, true. Let me get Scarlet down to one hp then manual her to watch passive heal

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Gimme a few minutes

drifting birch
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Also, where were you testing the heals on Scarlet?

tender loom
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not even sure what happening anymore man deadge
so trial Rem heals herself 688 per body shot b4 using burst with no RL
when she bursts in full 5 squad she only heals ally 115 (so like 1/6 of 688)
when she bursts in full 5 squad with 2 RL she only heals ally 86 ( so 1/8 of 688)

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ember plover
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uh lol

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spark pulsar
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Right?

drifting birch
spark pulsar
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Bro it's definitely bugged cuz rem is healing less than shit

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There's no way

drifting birch
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It might be that RLs get multiple stacks of the heal per shot

solemn pine
drifting birch
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All I know is that I tested shooting range boss with elem advantage for Rem, and she kept A2 at 80% and higher

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And A2 deletes 4% of her current HP every second, from what I remember

fleet light
spark pulsar
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Skill 1:
ā–  Activates when using Burst Skill. Affect all allies.
Shares HP recovery for 10 sec.

Skill 2:
ā–  Activates when entering battle. Affects self.
Recovers 42.24% of attack damage as HP continuously.
ā–  Activates when entering battle. Affects self and 2 Rocket Launcher-wielding ally unit(s) with the highest ATK.
Shares HP recovery continuously.

fleet light
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Yeah, with Elemental advantage, Rem becomes way better

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Note that that's with no stacks built up

drifting birch
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But my OLs have very few bonuses for elem advantage, to clarify

fleet light
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Gonna let Rem build stacks this time

drifting birch
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Might as well test shooting range without advantage to see the difference

fleet light
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I'm not using advantage

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S Anis and Scarlet have advantage delul

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That's with stacks

drifting birch
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I don't have Scarlet, but I will also test with Guillotine

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I want to know if this difference in healing is due to being RL

fleet light
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With more Max Ammo, Rem could definitely heal 50%

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And better OL levels

flat hinge
# fleet light

I was gonna say that the heals looked small, but this is definitely servicable

tender loom
ember plover
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I have 3 ammo OL and last piece has atk and crit rate , should I keep last piece or reroll ?

glossy pond
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biscuit kicked out from team ? lol but no burst charge

fleet light
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I don't think the division is even, honestly

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Seems like:

  • Solo: Self 100%
  • 1 RL: Self 66%, RL 33%
  • 2 RL: Self 50%, RLs 25% each
  • Burst: Self 40%, teammates 15% each
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or something like that

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Need to look at actual numbers, of course

spark pulsar
# tender loom not even sure what happening anymore man <:deadge:1014951072072216626> so trial...

Out of burst:
Heal should be

  • 1 with no RL
  • 1/2 with 1 RL
  • 1/3 with 2 RL

In burst:
Heal should be either

  • 1/5 (which is how it should be)
  • Or, how IT ACTUALLY IS WORKING LIKE:
  • 1/6 with 0 RL (5 from s1 + 1 from S2, Rem gets 2/6 parts of heal)
  • 1/7 with 1 RL (5 from s1 + 2 from S2, 2 for rem and 2 for RL)
  • 1/8 with 2 RLs (5 from s1 + 3 from S2, 2 for rem and 2 for first RL, 2 for second RL)

Where the RLs and REm get an extra proc of heal share, so they get 2/X

spark pulsar
fossil fox
flat hinge
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can't believe the best case scenario is to use rem without rls lmaocry

spark pulsar
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So with 2RLs in your team
Scarlet was actually getting 1/8th of the Rems 40% heal kekwa

fleet light
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Although my team has no RLs

solemn pine
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whatever happened to rem god

fleet light
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I mean, her damage still is

spark pulsar
fleet light
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She's stronger than Scarlet

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Imagine losing to a Water Supporter on your own element smh

drifting birch
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Oh, so that's why Scarlet heals were so much weaker than what I was getting with A2

spark pulsar
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How Rem's healing works:

  • Out of burst:

  • 1 with no RL for rem

  • 1/2 with 1 RL for both

  • 1/3 with 2 RL for each

  • In burst:

  • 1/6 with 0 RL (5 from s1 + 1 from S2, Rem gets 2/6 parts of heal)

  • 1/7 with 1 RL (5 from s1 + 2 from S2, 2 for rem and 2 for RL)

  • 1/8 with 2 RLs (5 from s1 + 3 from S2, 2 for rem and 2 for first RL, 2 for second RL)

Where the RLs and Rem get an extra proc of heal share, so they get 2/X

drifting birch
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That makes sense

fleet light
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Yeah, honestly feels better to keep her away from RLs then kek

spark pulsar
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@tender loom thank you DieselNOD
We know how it works now

fleet light
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Lemme get stacks to max then I'll copy numbers as well

spark pulsar
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@fossil fox go make bug report and have this fixed

fossil fox
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no

drifting birch
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What exactly is the fix you want here?

shell dome
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Has someone ran 100% crit rate Rem?

grim pagoda
spark pulsar
shell dome
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Volume, flex, Rem, flex, Helm

flat hinge
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apologems incoming?

spark pulsar
shell dome
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Tho it's....high investment LappDumb

grim pagoda
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Ok

drifting birch
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The heal is distributed in some sort of stacks, both skills spread the stacks, they can work at the same time and do their distribution without caring if the other's active I guess...

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This is more heals for RLs than it would be if it was just 1/5 during burst and that was it

fleet light
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Left is no RLs, right is 1 RL

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drifting birch
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And it's also more heals for herself than the 1/5, since she gets two stacks herself apparently

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Which is nice for SR since she might be the highest atk with the 30 stacks and will tank damage

fleet light
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2691 ā†’ 2306 (-14.3%)
2242 ā†’ 1922 (-14.3%)

drifting birch
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Actually, if that idea is true and she is ran with 0 RLs, she gets 2/6 of the heals, or 1/3, which is pretty nice if the SR boss focuses her

solemn pine
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so much for smart healing

fleet light
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Meanwhile Vesti:

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So yeah, RLs get preferential healing even during burst

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and Rem always does

drifting birch
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I like this "bug"

tender loom
spark pulsar
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See

drifting birch
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Seems pretty likely to be true, then

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I am of the approval

shell dome
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So what RL units to pair her with?

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Emilia?

flat hinge
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ah yes, so the answer to fixing her healing remains: just pay up lmao

fleet light
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Vesti's (single RL) healing during burst = Rem's self-healing outside of burst thonk

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Vesti's healing outside of burst? deluconfuse

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She's getting healed more than Rem is healing herself yabai

peak hearth
fleet light
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Ah wait, the stack count jumped weirdly, that's why

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Numbers are as it seems we've found them to be deluok

flat hinge
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just realized her burst doesn't need levels unless you play rls with her

fleet light
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Yesn't

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She does get a Crit Rate boost

solemn pine
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pair with volume

fleet light
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Yeah, 50% Crit Rate

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I guess more like 65% if both are maxed?

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Oh nvm

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70%

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37.8% + 31.9%

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not that I'd ever max Volume's burst

spark pulsar
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Idk if this bug is good or not tbh

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On one hand, 1/5th is very fucking low anyways, and can't heal a lot
On the other hand, at least someone is getting healed now with 1/3rd or 1/4th of the heals.

soft urchin
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It's good for making Noise immortal I guess

spark pulsar
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With 1/3rd she can cook imo

spark pulsar
peak hearth
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Are skills undecided still?

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Iā€™m thinking 7/7/7 for most

spark pulsar
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But skill 1 is lvl10

tender loom
soft urchin
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Noise is double dipping during burst right?

spark pulsar
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I'm not confident in burst or s2

peak hearth
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With 10/7/10 on maxing

soft urchin
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1 from being RL, 1 from burst

peak hearth
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Why not burst? It buffs the RL more right?

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Which is dmg

spark pulsar
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I'm thinking of rem more as a DPS than a buffer/healer

soft urchin
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Does Rem need that much healing though? Not like she taunts

fleet light
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In SR, she essentially will be

spark pulsar
peak hearth
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And you have to remember

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Rem heals the RL constantly

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Not just in burst

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But basically forever

soft urchin
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I feel her burst buff to RL is too good to give up purely for some more self healing

fleet light
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Yeah, that's the main reason that A2 feels much more comfy than Scarlet

spark pulsar
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Like genuinely
This is a quency Vs Marciana situation imo.

Quency heals 2 only.
Marciana heals full team.

peak hearth
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10/7/7 is a safe bet, 10/7/10 if you want to milk all the damage for your RLs, and 10/10/10 if you worship at the altar of Rem?

drifting birch
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Or if you just want more heals

soft urchin
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Does S2 scale well?

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Like is going 7->10 going to let a team facetank boss attacks and thus get more damage?

drifting birch
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Impossible to tell since all of her healing depends on her damage

fleet light
soft urchin
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Is that 7 vs 10? Lol that's no different

fleet light
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That's 9-10

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Can't see 7 anymore

soft urchin
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Probably around 36%

fleet light
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Yup

soft urchin
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So youd be increasing healing by 10% going from 7->10

peak hearth
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Thatā€™s pretty futile

fleet light
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Not worth for low spenders probs

peak hearth
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400 hp heal (lol) now 440 hp (still dead)
20,000 hp heal (still alive) now 22,000 hp heal (still alive)

soft urchin
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Yeah not worth the mats

drifting birch
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lvl10 is 15.7% higher amount of healing than lvl7 provides

soft urchin
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For Emilia teams I wonder if Rem or Emilia bursts is better for Emilia's own damage lol

peak hearth
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?

fleet light
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Rem's burst is better for her own damage kek

soft urchin
# peak hearth ?

Whether Rem's ATK buff increasing is more useful to the ATK deprived Emilia than her own burst increasing

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For low spenders

spark pulsar
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Tldr is don't expect rem to heal enough unless she or RLs are the ones getting targeted

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No level of S2 can save your last 2 units

fleet light
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Nah, as long as they don't hurt themselves, I think it's fine

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The bigger concern is enemies that disappear for long enough

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Rem losing her stacks is yikes

spark pulsar
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Skill recommendations:
Starting -> Min -> F2p -> High
1/1/1 -> 7/4/4 -> 10/10/7 -> 10/10/10

spark pulsar
fleet light
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(note my Emilia isn't that invested)

ivory walrus
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so her healing isn't bugged and is working as intended?

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no more rem god?

fleet light
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Might be intended, but we have no idea

spark pulsar
fleet light
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Welp, I've gotta get to work, so no more testing for me

spark pulsar
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If the community feels it's bugged start spamming bug reports, if they think it's fine then deal with it

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Rem is the best B2 DPS in the game. That's that.

soft urchin
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Rip Rupee

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You carried us so far early game

fossil fox
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Rem god ssssssss tirr

grim topaz
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Can't wait for the community votes on Rem

spark pulsar
soft urchin
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Enemies disappearing is a concern tho

fossil fox
spark pulsar
soft urchin
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Dunno how to address it other than good cdr

spark pulsar
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Rem can get solo spot in SS tier

flat hinge
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I can't believe I wasted 40 ticks on dis trash deadge

spark pulsar
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Time for mass demotions

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Yay

fossil fox
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Rem still sss

solemn pine
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so her lifesteal sharing is fucked or something?

cloud hull
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remmid

spark pulsar
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Rem is still the best solo b2 in the game

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Like, if blanc or naga didn't have hoe sisters, they'd be below rem in usability

soft urchin
grim topaz
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I'm gonna assume 10/10/10 won't help out Rem's healing as much?

spark pulsar
soft urchin
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S2 gives Rem and each RL one claim to the healing.

Burst gives all team one claim to the healing

soft urchin
grim topaz
solemn pine
soft urchin
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So it's not an equal division during burst lol

solemn pine
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so that 42% is divided into 8

spark pulsar
solemn pine
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if there's 2 RL?

soft urchin
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Yeah

tender loom
cloud hull
grim topaz
tender loom
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and the 2 RL and REm get 2/8 each

solemn pine
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THAT'S FUCKED

spark pulsar
solemn pine
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only 5% lifesteal for nonRL teammates if there's 2 RL

tender loom
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just pray theres no AoE spam dmg i guess

spark pulsar
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Id say it's really really good situationally

soft urchin
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Rem teams basically have to assume either Rem or an ally RL (e.g. Noise) is being targeted

solemn pine
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or no RL at all?

fleet light
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5% is a lot considering how much damage Rem can deal

spark pulsar
soft urchin
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No RL still only gives allies 1/6 instead of 1/5, but yeah better than 1/8

tender loom
solemn pine
spark pulsar
#

2/6 = 1/3

#

So it's good

#

I think running 1RL is good

#

1rl should be enuf

solemn pine
#

you'd want 1 RL or 1 SR to generate burst gen for her team anyway

fleet light
#

Not many situations for running two anyway

spark pulsar
#

1/2 out of burst
2/7 in burst

fleet light
#

(outside of PvP)

solemn pine
#

so volume rem emilia xlud whatever for example

spark pulsar
#

Maybe we should just run helm with rem and call it a day

bronze flicker
#

WTF, rem is bugged?

spark pulsar
#

Whos spreading that she's bugged

soft urchin
#

Not technically a bug, just poor wording

spark pulsar
spark pulsar
soft urchin
#

Skills don't specify that healing isn't necessarily shared equally

spark pulsar
#

But I also said I'm not sure

soft urchin
#

So not a bug

bronze flicker
#

So what's tha mean? is she mid?

fleet light
#

Nope

cloud hull
fleet light
#

DPS god

flat hinge
#

nah, just need damage boost during burst mode (liter/other supports) for more heals

grim topaz
#

If you count being a top DPS, mid, then yes.

soft urchin
#

Just means she doesn't heal non-RL allies as much, but heals self and RL allies more, so could be good or bad depending on desired team.

glossy pond
#

thank god for another water dps

fleet light
#

She isn't a full replacement for Marciana

#

You get damage for less heals

#

So depending on boss, she may need some help keeping everyone alive

#

Maybe

#

Still feels quite good to me akkoShrug

#

but mine is core max and 10/9/7

solemn pine
#

if boss has high ST damage and is targetting her, might as well not run any RL and let her have full lifesteal off burst

bronze flicker
#

Next SR is Nihilister, You think she can heal fast enough for Nihil's turret?

tender loom
# spark pulsar Is she?

if this upcoming solo raid has the boss target highest atk, just ask them to fix after its over. weSmart

soft urchin
#

Does Rem consistent healing make Brid a viable water DPS? I assume no

bronze flicker
#

How about her RL buffs?

cloud hull
#

wait till we get a cdr b1 or b3 with high number on dmg taken debuff or atk dmg (NOT counting isabel) then we golden

#

rem god

#

that's asking for too much

solemn pine
dreamy spire
#

found someone more schizo than me

snek.png
restive walrus
#

I told ya

solemn pine
#

better off using real b1/b2 heals for brid

restive walrus
#

she provides a lot of dmg but her healing is wack

#

SS max

cloud hull
#

still better than peppa

bronze flicker
#

Collab unit are pretty much bait and switch, They look strong now. Basically useless in the next couple of patch

cloud hull
#

can't complain

grim topaz
bronze flicker
#

I think I might need to pair Rem with Noise and Sakura then

grim topaz
#

Emilia is still pretty dang good in PvP, no?

soft urchin
bronze flicker
#

For ppl who plays pvp, sure. I don't care much about pvp

soft urchin
#

Wait is Sakura b1 or b2

solemn pine
#

b1

bronze flicker
tender loom
#

40s

bronze flicker
#

That's why you need noise

#

to tank and extra heal

flat hinge
#

use moron insted

solemn pine
#

I'd say with 42% lifesteal all to herself (with 0 RL team) off burst, she has the potential to replace 2b as pseudo tanker

bronze flicker
#

but Rem is a supporter tho

solemn pine
#

on burst she might need help (at least she has crit buffs)

bronze flicker
#

she can be a god unit if she has a taunt skill

restive walrus
#

problem is

fossil fox
solemn pine
#

we're talking about sr bosses targetting highest atk

restive walrus
#

your heal is reduced by 80% during burst

#

and u want to be in burst

solemn pine
#

you'd just have to survive and heal back up after fb ends with full s1 stacks still up and 42% solo lifesteal back up

restive walrus
bronze flicker
#

I guess, pairing rem with SBS is a no go then?

#

how's her RL buff at?

solemn pine
#

if sbs is bursting, there's a lot of diminishing return from rem's atk buff

#

since sbs already have her own +115% atk

#

and sbs off burst is kinda whatever

spark pulsar
#

That's like Alice level buffs lol

#

XLud etc can't get those levels of buffs from anyone in t3-t5

#

Except if Dorothy decides to be kind

#

Possibly worth a demotion maybe

#

For SBS to come down to rem team

flat hinge
#

there's a possibility to move bunnies away from sbs and replace them with rem instead I think
like liter+rem+sbs+2flex

spark pulsar
#

Not on wind boss but other 3 ele

bronze flicker
#

For Nihilister we probably need atleast one water unit tho right

spark pulsar
solemn pine
#

who's Nihilister?

spark pulsar
flat hinge
#

my bedwarmer

solemn pine
tender loom
#

the best liberation unit in the entire game

spark pulsar
bronze flicker
#

Yeah Nihilister for Tribe Tower man

#

I;m stuck at nihilister

restive walrus
#

don't slip up

tender loom
#

quency is rehab Copium

restive walrus
#

there's no next time

solemn pine
#

so ig rip A2+rem dream

spark pulsar
#

Yeah, she's still must pull

bronze flicker
solemn pine
#

no smart healing

spark pulsar
#

Don't fuck your ideas up
Rem is a mustpull unit for both raids

grim topaz
#

The hype for Rem has been tempered basically.

peak hearth
restive walrus
#

C

solemn pine
#

D

restive walrus
#

F

spark pulsar
peak hearth
#

The hype was

spark pulsar
#

It's simple
Rem do DPS
She kill.
Ez

spark pulsar
solemn pine
#

ugh trying to get ammo and ele rolls on her would be a pain though

grim topaz
spark pulsar
#

This is called game balancing DieselNOD

grim topaz
#

Now after seeing the heals

peak hearth
#

ā€œRem lays waste to all enemies, and revels in the lamentations of their women. Oh, and she full heals everyone like a crazy Rapunzel out for seggsā€

grim topaz
#

She's still good lol

spark pulsar
#

Rem is still probably sss tier bossing

peak hearth
#

Now itā€™s ā€œRem lays waste to all enemies, and revels in the lamentations of their women. Oh, and she heals RLs and herself pretty well.ā€

#

The damage part lived up to expectations

spark pulsar
grim topaz
#

I personally don't regret Max OLing, +7, and max skills Rem. I think she'll be a huge help to my Union

#

Since shit is getting faster anyways

restive walrus
peak hearth
#

At least she still gives out light healing

restive walrus
#

tove is better than Doro

peak hearth
#

To rest of her squad

bronze flicker
#

Can we just riot to Shift Up and ask them to buff her like we used to do with Redhood kekw

peak hearth
#

As for what tier, I think SS is a safe spot

restive walrus
#

ikr

grim topaz
#

SS is fine with me.

restive walrus
#

then we remove all SS

grim topaz
#

It was the same for 2B and A2

restive walrus
#

so Rem is sole SS

solemn pine
#

who's your go-to team 3 on UR for high rank union plebs here anyway

restive walrus
#

Tovew

#

I don't even joke

solemn pine
#

doro+elegg?

restive walrus
#

Tove SG gives like 20% more dmg than my Doro setup

peak hearth
#

I think of SS as a safe spot where good units go if youā€™re reluctant to just slap down SSS

solemn pine
#

can volume+rem make a permanent spot as team 3? better than doro+elegg+ass

#

for speedrunning unions

restive walrus
#

Doro Rem

spark pulsar
grim topaz
lyric rampart
#

Someone above said the share hp recovery effect the lifesteal from the shared unit other than rem like alice too
Maybe for the heal to work need one more lifesteal continously unit lol

spark pulsar
#

Rn I think she gets sss in boss solo

restive walrus
spark pulsar
peak hearth
spark pulsar
spark pulsar
restive walrus
#

better to push both, but I need to have some break first

#

for breakfast

tender loom
restive walrus
spark pulsar
fossil fox
#

Doro cant be sss in boss solo

peak hearth
solemn pine
#

s2

tender loom
restive walrus
#

tiny amount

spark pulsar
peak hearth
#

It wasnā€™t a hpregen?

spark pulsar
tender loom
spark pulsar
peak hearth
#

Huh

flat hinge
#

just give as water sanis already

peak hearth
#

Oh

#

Because of the damned ā€œContinuously recoverā€

tender loom
#

yeah just means the lifesteal buff has infinite duration as long as she below 80%

spark pulsar
#

What we need in nikke:

  • elysion duo
  • pilgrim b2
  • wind DPS
  • water DPS
  • B3 SG cdr healer/dps
  • more PvP units
#

In that order DieselNOD

solemn pine
#

you forgot something

spark pulsar
solemn pine
#

100 more tower floors, at the very top

restive walrus
#

why do you need more water DPS?

#

we have 3 by now

#

ASK FOR WIND

spark pulsar
restive walrus
#

SBS and nothing

bronze flicker
#

wind is enough with SBS, she carried 3 teams

restive walrus
#

do you want to build Epinel?

solemn pine
#

guilty catPeek

spark pulsar
#
  • Dorothy
  • Emilia
  • rem
  • tove+Leona

What's the 5th? Think helm is enough? Idk about that

solemn pine
#

noir PES_Bunny

tender loom
#

epinel pretty gud tho, just kill the boss 5 times to stack her buffs

spark pulsar
#

Emilia runs with rem, now what

solemn pine
#

now we add abnormal tower

vestal crater
restive walrus
#

Poli

#

and actually

#
  • Xlud
  • Tove Leona
  • Doro Priv
  • Rem
  • Emilia
solemn pine
#

damn whel already pulled rem

restive walrus
#

since her heal is so shit anyway

#

I recommend 10/4/7

#

S2 slapping for self heal, not team heal

cloud hull
#

her healing is not shit if she can outheal a2's self-drain

restive walrus
#

In which team

cloud hull
#

mode b the whole time

restive walrus
#

But alice where

cloud hull
#

xd

tender loom
#

Is that in shooting range?

cloud hull
#

shooting range

spark pulsar
#

Just like rem

#

So it's understandable

#

1/3 out of burst
1/4 in burst

#

So she's actually benefitting from this lopsidedness

spark pulsar
#

Tldr is she's getting 2Ɨ the heal scarlet would be getting

#

So rem keeps herself and RLs safe and sound

solemn pine
#

well shooting range boss doesn't do damage

spark pulsar
#

Rem heals herself quite well

#

So REMGOD

cloud hull
#

^

spark pulsar
#

Austin was right

solemn pine
#

laughs in aoe attacks

spark pulsar
#

Like what?

#

Those that require cover heal + shields?

That's different

#

Rem god

quiet idol
#

is it worth getting her to MCE or is MLB just fine?

I have just enough tickets to go all the way if I don't get any dupes before the deadline

spark pulsar
waxen hazel
quiet idol
waxen hazel
#

k thats a first seeing that lol

flat hinge
#

half anni is literally right after this right?

#

Don't wanna go all-in with her

lament ravine
waxen hazel
#

lets hope this next event is just a filler and not a must have

dreamy spire
#

elysion duo before 1.5 anni

thick kite
#

whos going to tell him

dreamy spire
#

you heard it here first

#

very cool

image.png
tender loom
#

I think theres room for 1 more event after collab b4 anni

lament ravine
#

Yeah

#

I'm betting it will be related to story they have been telling in the past couple events

thick kite
#

but broa what do yall think?

lament ravine
#

Maybe the unit will be K šŸ¤”

thick kite
#

is rem a gud support?

hard cave
#

More like god support

thick kite
#

rn my plan is to pity her and build my lewdmilla together with her

#

cuz i dont have any water dmg units

#

just supports atm

#

i got a feeling emelia would get powercrept eventually

dreamy spire
#

no shit

elfin wraith
#

One copy of Emilia, MLB Rem. I am set and blessed

thick kite
solemn pine
#

emilia is for pvp more than pve

#

so donā€™t worry about emilia powercreeping

soft urchin
#

In terms of damage without using burst Emilia is pretty high up there I think?

#

We haven't been using slot 5 as a flex for a while since JK have Tia and Bunnies have useless Noir, but in theory might be a future place for Emilia to shine

tender loom
#

noir ammo buff tho Copium

soft urchin
#

Rouge is gonna really make bunny comps flexible, as long as she isn't B2

#

If she ever drops

tender loom
#

if shes b1 then shes gonna need cdr and 20s cd

soft urchin
#

40s B1 would also be viable

#

Or 60 for that matter

#

Yeeeeeeee

#

Apparently she's the #1 B2 dps currently in the game

#

Bunnies/JK will buff the B3 more

#

But Rem a very solid choice for standalone B2

#

With high chance of being used in future teams

soft urchin
fossil fox
#

REM GOD

harsh garden
#

Kira's test she is outdamaging Sanis and Scarlet in the doro team

winter crown
lavish cedar
grim cedarBOT
restive walrus
#

actually because Sanis and Scarlet are kinda shit

#

Scarlet is shit

#

Sanis as SG is shit against slim shady boss

lunar fable
#

Sorry bout that

restive walrus
soft urchin
#

Sanis barely cares about being SG, doesn't most of her damage come from distance invariant skill?

restive walrus
#

cuz I'm real slim shady, you're real slim shady

#

huh

#

her S2 deals as much as her basic attack bruh

soft urchin
#

Oh it's 50/50?

restive walrus
#

if your basic attack doesn't land

#

then technically, you lose 50% dmg right?

soft urchin
#

Yeah I thought it was more 75/25 lol

restive walrus
#

not to mention, her S2 only 1-1 during her own burst

#

2/3 of the time it's not her own burst

#

Armstrong is kinda bad boss for Sanis, but perfect target to Rem due to

  • Have Core
  • Slim Shady
#

don't we have UR right now?

#

they are better targets I think

harsh garden
# lavish cedar ele advantage ?

didn't pay attention for the shooting range stage he maxed her S1 with OL gears with 2x ammo, 1 atk, 1 elem for first test

graceful plinth
#

c7 rem with 1 ammo 1 ele 10/7/10

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restive walrus
#

S2 doesn't really matter

#

because her heal is urghh

#

max S1 first

soft urchin
#

That Emilia vs XLud lollll

graceful plinth
#

itā€™s against 0 parts boss

#

emt is out of comparison

restive walrus
#

a support who brings nothing except dmg of herself to the table

#

"supporter"

soft urchin
#

Burst depends on if you're running her with RL

#

Leave it low if not using her RL ATK buff

restive walrus
#

10/4/7

harsh garden
#

She was designed to support and heal RL and finally she will be used in other teams without RL

restive walrus
#

settle for it texas

#

it gives nice crit buff

#

but no more than 7 unless we have god tier REAL RL

#

and not wannabe RL like SBS

soft urchin
#

I mean against bosses with parts

Doro/Rem/A2/Emilia/flex is gonna slaughter

#

But that is niche

graceful plinth
#

niche is ded

glossy pond
#

Finally a true burst 2 attacker support. Only best girl rem and recently becoming a goddess can make that happen

restive walrus
glossy pond
#

Truly worthy of my mlb

restive walrus
#

but Guilty

glossy pond
#

Who

bright spear
#

guilty bros in shamble

lone zodiac
#

Okay I just need to know 1 thing because it also determines if I pull for Emilia.

Does Rem + SBS + Volume / Doro (assuming liter is used w/ bunnies, D killer wife w/ schoolgirls, Alice w/ SBS) outperform SBS + Bunnies/Schoolgirls?

tender loom
#

Guilty SSS back in the day sadge

image.png
restive walrus
#

baldsenix

stoic inlet
#

so what cube should Rem be having?

restive walrus
#

of course Bastion

soft urchin
#

Bastion as always

restive walrus
#

remove it from your granny

fossil fox
#

If in doro priv u run resil

stoic inlet
#

but yeah ill go Bastion thanks guys

soft urchin
#

Oh actually hold up maybe resil in general to reduce chance of losing her stacks

#

During an Ill timed reload

restive walrus
#

10s duration

#

0.25s to restack

#

and you expect me to lose stacks

stoic inlet
#

when does an ill timed reload happen? deadge

soft urchin
#

If she's reloading when burst hits

#

So she has to wait for reload to end before she starts gaining stacks again

restive walrus
#

so it takes you 8s between rotation?

half copper
#

is rem viable in pvp?

soft urchin
#

I guess with CDR it's fine yeah

#

Cdr always enough

restive walrus
half copper
restive walrus
#

not

#

why do you use MG in PVP

stoic inlet
#

what level is your Bastion cube?

restive walrus
#

lv 7+

soft urchin
#

Might try a Rem & Noise immortal setup

half copper
#

noise-rem-quiry-rapunzel-jackal BlancStare

#

goofy

stoic inlet
# restive walrus lv 7+

im asking because I have 15k guild chips atm and im not sure if I should spend it on 50 Bastion caps or a Guilty dupe

soft urchin
#

Guilty dupe lol

restive walrus
#

why Guilty?

#

dupe quency

#

she's prettier

stoic inlet
#

be serious guys this is a serious question

soft urchin
#

I'll get dupes when they give liberation units amazing treasures

stoic inlet
#

seriously serious

restive walrus
#

all 4 are shit

half copper
#

bro its all said

stoic inlet
#

im seriously asking

half copper
#

cubes > dupes

restive walrus
#

always lv 7 meta cube

stoic inlet
#

yeah thats what i thought

half copper
#

dupes are trash

harsh garden
half copper
#

waste of chips

#

cubes go lvl 10

#

stronk cubes

#

cubes worth

stoic inlet
#

ill move on to upgrading Bastion then since I already have Resi at lvl 10

restive walrus
#

by lv 7, I mean

  • Resi
  • Bastion
  • Vigor
  • Quantum
  • Wingman
  • Adjutant
#

the others can be whatever

#

but lv 7 are welcome

#

for cp padding

half copper
lone zodiac
#

Rem + SBS outperform SBS + Bunnies / Schoolgirls?

tender loom
#

nihil treasure coming soon, dw she'll be a god Copium

crystal imp
#

my boots only has 11.81% atk on first line for rem

#

should i just reroll for more ele?

half copper
crystal imp
#

ah

restive walrus
#

50% atk more on top of 115% is like 30% dmg up

kindred zinc
#

I just got Rem, I have 400 gold tickets. Should I buy her copies?

restive walrus
#

Blanc is 40%

crystal imp
kindred zinc
#

ok then

half copper
#

dsave

kindred zinc
#

sigh...
No emilia after 50 pulls...
Should I buy Emilia?

#

everyone silent KekWait

half copper
#

idk man

#

golden tickets is precious

#

try to pull till last day

#

like what if

#

double pilgrim banner

kindred zinc
#

Cube for Rem?

half copper
dreamy spire
#

collab is a special case, if you can't pull them just ticket at last day

kindred zinc
#

Low on gems, I guess I give up on Emilia...

stoic inlet
#

FOMO hits hard

dreamy spire
#

i believe you don't really need emilia, but Rem is a really good unit

harsh garden
#

Emilia is more if you care about PVP

dreamy spire
#

and that

#

CSM was irredeemably bad, that's why skipped both are fine

#

but both Rem and Emillia have potentials

kindred zinc
#

I skipped CSM though

dreamy spire
#

same

#

kits too shit

half copper
#

i didnt skip csm

#

cuz i got baited by csm itself

stoic inlet
#

Makima was alluring enough for me to LB3 her

#

mostly because of the immortality thing in her kit she has

kindred zinc
#

Ok fuck this shit, I'm gonna buy Emilia

harsh garden
#

SU are releasing more frequently good units since the start of the year

kindred zinc
#

Clearly she hates me

half copper
kindred zinc
#

60 pulls already, I got 3 SSR

half copper
#

brother

stoic inlet
#

do eeet

glossy pond
#

done and deal about 30k~40k gems

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stoic inlet
#

i think im screwed on half anni

soft urchin
stoic inlet
half copper
stoic inlet
#

its over

glossy pond
#

i dont trust 1% pilgrim i just gonna ticket pilgrim

#

that shit crazy if 2% is crazy enough

soft urchin
harsh garden
stoic inlet
soft urchin
stoic inlet
#

the banner was kind to me fortunately, only did 60 pulls and spent 200 gold tickets to LB3 Rem

harsh garden
#

sky got her first Rem at 360 pulls

stoic inlet
#

jesus PepeTF

harsh garden
#

very bad luck

stoic inlet
#

guys i think im cursed on the next banner

image.png
half copper
flat hinge
#

Reminds me of the time when I lost 200 rolls to modernia

#

Made me quit for 4 months lmao

half copper
#

almost 300+ pulls no summer helm and summer mary

soft urchin
#

I think I spent 300 pulls getting one copy of Xmas rupee. That choice hasn't aged well lol

lone zodiac
# restive walrus No way

Mmm okay ty, I am still gonna pull, just didn't know if it was worth pulling SBS away from bunnies / schoolgirls.

Then I'll def pull for Emilia then too.

Probably run Volume, Rem, A2, Emilia, and Mod/Xmas Lud as a 3rd / 4th team?

Though if I'm doing union raids, I'd def just use Rem instead of Marciana for the last bullet team for the 3rd team

harsh garden
spark pulsar
#

Guilty was fr sss

#

Def buff is written in pros
This was before me and kisenix took over

half copper
#

tia-naga-d-alice-sbs
liter-blanc-redhood-maxwell-noir
doro-sAnis-biscuit-priv-poli/marciana or doro-marc-scar-sanis-priv
Volume-Rem-a2-xx-xx
pepper-dolla-xx-xx-xx

half copper
restive walrus
#

S

half copper
#

imma check it

restive walrus
#

stands for shit

half copper
#

ehh

half copper
spark pulsar
#

She's out of S now, no?

#

Doro marc scar SAnis priv

-> Dead team, will never be used again

restive walrus
#

oh wait

harsh garden
#

waiting for next raid but seems that Marciana will be replaced by Rem

half copper
#

@spark pulsar is this good with rem

doro-sAnis-biscuit-priv-rem?

lone zodiac
restive walrus
#

Biscuit

#

so there's one rotation you don't burst Rem

#

why?

spark pulsar
restive walrus
opal iris
#

should i go for 1 copy of her and save? or multiple? pepeHands

half copper
restive walrus
#

ask yourself Does 2% stat matter?

#

if it matters, pull

#

if not, don't

#

so simple right

opal iris
lone zodiac
#

Man I just got PTSD when I regretted MLB 2B

opal iris
#

you might have a sound argument there

lone zodiac
#

And she immediately got her team replaced

#

In like 2 weeks lmao

restive walrus
#

2B was overrated, until we discovered that distributed dmg is pepe against Biscuit

#

broken shit

#

if distributed dmg got through Biscuit wall, SBS and 2B were always in god tier PVP

keen matrix
#

wait we replacing Marciana with rem?

restive walrus
#

it's tover

#

we are in endgame now

keen matrix
#

wtf

restive walrus
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also Marci goes to Tove team

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so nothing is lost

keen matrix
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what is tove team now

restive walrus
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Tove Leona MPriv Something Marciana

timid wind
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Waiting SU to recolor CC so we can use SG team PepeCopiumAnimated

lyric rampart
fossil fox
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R E M G O D

restive walrus
fossil fox
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i called it

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first comment

peak hearth
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Technically, the pin notification was the first comment. Denied by N3x

fossil fox
sharp marlin
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From the OL gear stats I got going. Do I reroll the shoes?

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viral fern
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disgusting

tight flame
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Must MLB

glad hill
shell dome
tight flame
shell dome
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Nah, I'm good with LB0 bro

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I wanna try 100% crit rate Doro

novel moth
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BlancStare we need b3 support for this b2 dps right?

ember plover
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I have ammo on 3 pieces and last one has crit and atk , need to reroll for ammo on last one or good enough

gray ibex
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LB 0 Rem, ~31% attack and 56% max ammo for Rem. No ele advantage. 10/7/9
Everythings fully OL'd and SBS has ele advantage

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glad hill
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Atk stat does nothing

gray ibex
glad hill
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Wow

fleet light
# harsh garden

Not surprised. Only reason mine wasn't was because I'm flat broke on gear exp

novel moth
fleet light