[Rem] New Unit Megathread

[restive walrus]

except

SBS will never have buff

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1108346931819851806/1194479452495814728/d0266d8683b6e2e7c8f7896cf8072c3686aff7334cfd6d1550f1661649ab3a0c-ezgif.com-speed.gif?ex=65b080ad&is=659e0bad&hm=8530e7e3bc0d259a555073ee428d6e4cd0fd8d9d6dacf556b6caaa575b605b78&

[peak hearth]

Depends on the OLs I think?

[restive walrus]

and dupe, but you want the maximum outcome right?

[solemn pine]

I think I'm good

[soft urchin]

SBS would get the atk buff too, even if it's diluted

[restive walrus]

SBS needs the carrot buff

ATK is whatever

[obtuse plover]

why not Rem in Doro team

[restive walrus]

if Rem is in Doro team, she's the DPS there and not buffing any1 because slots are limited

lemme see how to make SBS not losing carrot buff

[soft urchin]

Also Doro/Rem gives no atk at all

[solemn pine]

will priv+resil cube be enough to keep Rem not winding down?

[soft urchin]

Unless RL B3

[restive walrus]

enough

Rem always gives SBS 50% atk first

[soft urchin]

Doro/Rem/Emilia/A2/Flex would be hilarious against a boss with parts though

[restive walrus]

so she only has 80% atk buff more

SBS with core max = 20% higher base

40% OL = 68% ATK up compared to base

hm yeah

Alice and SBS need core max, 40% ATK from OL

to not having atk stolen from base Rem

if you want to run that Rem Alice SBS

but if you can accept that outside burst, one won't have Carrot then it's fine

[soft urchin]

Wait is carrot dynamic? I thought it was just highest ATK when burst starts

[peak hearth]

It’s on enter Full Burst

Highest 2 ATK allies

[restive walrus]

for example, Alice deals around 77% with her FB

[peak hearth]

Class doesn’t matter (aside from their base ATK growth and class gear)

[restive walrus]

SBS deals 77% with her FB too

[peak hearth]

Meaning it’s not limited to “attackers only”… so unfortunately Rem can in fact steal it

[soft urchin]

This is what's confusing me.

[peak hearth]

And Rem has this beast of an ATK stack from Demon…

[restive walrus]

so you can allow Rem to steal buff

[soft urchin]

Outside burst it doesn't exist?

So how would you have to accept that you'll lose it?

[restive walrus]

lack of core max + 40% ATK from OL

something... insane to have

practically, you will LOSE buff when you don't burst

but I think it's okay

their dmg outside of their burst are not that important

[peak hearth]

I think he meant outside of BS.Scarlet’s own burst

[soft urchin]

Yeah I see now, outside SBS own burst

[restive walrus]

SBS during her burst: 77%
SBS during other burst/non burst: 23% left

[peak hearth]

So if Alice bursts, BS.Scarlet will probably not get carrot buff because Rem the Demon stole it

[restive walrus]

same with Alice

actually

that's a very fair team

[peak hearth]

Only because Rem is insane I guess

Like saying oh well can’t buff the real hyper carries as hard as you hoped.. but you added someone that blows up the planet to the squad

[restive walrus]

she's one of the worst "supporter" in this game, even worse than Sanis

at least Sanis gives attack and reload

Rem gives random bullshit ATK to RL

[soft urchin]

Is it worth swapping Alice for Maxwell so Rem can better benefit when she steals the buff then?

Wow Rem gives healing

[restive walrus]

and both work for Isekai dept.

nope, Maxwell can't support SBS

as gay as Alice

[peak hearth]

Hey are you sure we aren’t missing something?

Like 1% final atk basic attack?

[restive walrus]

CDR

oh there's Liter

5.57%

it's in the pic

[solemn pine]

honestly just run rem with volume + rejects like xlud/emilia/laplace

[soft urchin]

I assume Alice buff is highest final ATK and not highest ATK, which would make all these calcs pointless

[restive walrus]

it's complicated

it's the timing of which buff will land

for example, Scarlet burst will never have Maxwell ATK buff

never have Full Burst bonus dmg (50%)

because it goes before those buffs kick in

[soft urchin]

But Alice buff kicks in first?

[restive walrus]

first to what?

Alice buff is external buff

it always lands after self buf

so SBS always gives herself 115% atk first during her own burst

then Alice buff will check who are top 2 ATK at that moment

[soft urchin]

Got confused and misread this as SBS Scarlet nvm me

[velvet ginkgo]

obviously the answer is to keep rem S1 low lvl

[restive walrus]

it's so true

I kneel

[soft urchin]

Ok but if those stats mattered shouldn't Alice S1 say highest final ATK?

I always thought it was just base atk

Which determined who got it

[restive walrus]

may be

[soft urchin]

In which case as a supporter Rem is very unlikely to steal it

[velvet ginkgo]

pretty sure it's final atk, I've had my alice steal maxwell's buff that used to go on maxwell and priv. It only happens when alice is bursting (and increasing her own atk)

[fossil fox]

SSSSS Rem

https://tenor.com/view/rem-anime-pushup-re-zero-gif-25953263

[restive walrus]

SS

[fossil fox]

put SS just to move to SSS once everyone rolls 4 max ammo on her

[restive walrus]

[fossil fox]

i have to choose between Rem S2 at 4 or Emilia S1 at 4

what should i do

[restive walrus]

you buy more books

[fossil fox]

thats with me buying out the books

prob gonna be 10 4 10 rem and 10 10 10 emilia

[restive walrus]

in that case

10 7 10 rem and 7 10 10 Emilia

simple

[visual epoch]

🐳

[timid wind]

[graceful plinth]

rem is tmr?

[fossil fox]

yes

[visual epoch]

I thought emilia skill 2 more value?

Than skill 1

[restive walrus]

lmao true

my bad, 7/10/10 Emilia

[fleet light]

I can't wait to see Noise getting healed by Rem

[tight flame]

[shell dome]

[cold bloom]

is rem and ram are twins why is one SR and one SSR

[restive walrus]

Because of you

[cold bloom]

T swift is lame

[restive walrus]

Dont make me write a song about u

[cold bloom]

does she even write her own songs

[restive walrus]

Bruh, i think she does

[cold bloom]

how do you know? u watched her write it?

[restive walrus]

Im tswift

[cold bloom]

i bet someone else does the work for her and shes just the face

u aint shit

[restive walrus]

[abstract valley]

Wait no I never connected gatrix to the singer

[fleet light]

Canonical power level at the time of the anime?

[peak hearth]

They probably just ran out of slots

“We’ll make a collab but we will only add 2 SSRs and 1 SR”

• Emilia
• Rem
• Ram
• Others

“Omg, we have 3 but only room for 2 SSRs. We can’t add Rem without also adding Ram!”

“Okay, Rem is more popular. Make Ram the SR”

The odds of them doing another collab with Re:Zero to introduce Ram as a SSR is low

Besides, even if they did, they can just introduce a Ram alter if they really, really wanted to address this

They target wealth generation, not quality of work

Neither do they target completeness of work See Champion Arena

[fleet light]

Ram being the lower unit is normal for most collabs from what I've heard from friends

That was easy to guess anyway

even though she's the best of the three

Rem banner starts after reset, right? Or is it tomorrow? My sense of day is messed up recently cuz of work

[cold bloom]

it starts in 4 hours

[fleet light]

Awesome, I'm not crazy then

[peak hearth]

Rem World Domination begins in 4 hours, and in 4 days the 4 Doros of the Dorocalypse will descend

[restive walrus]

can't wait to see your shattered dream

about Remid

[tight flame]

Rem day

[solemn pine]

hey, you stole my emoji

[abstract valley]

wtf are you 2 doign

[craggy crown]

So she is coming out today

[fleet light]

[craggy crown]

As always, I'll put on dethklok when I gamba

[jade roost]

is rem out on reset today?

les go

[peak hearth]

REM HAS ARRIVED

[lilac raven]

LETS ROLL

[tight flame]

[abstract valley]

what a fucking whale

[spark pulsar]

Does she keep her stacks up

[lilac raven]

https://tenor.com/view/mcmahon-crying-he-was-special-wwe-vince-mcmahon-gif-13313547165599993551

[spark pulsar]

Gimme answers

[odd wolf]

Yes

[lilac raven]

What are the skills priority

[tight flame]

no bro it's tover ||just joking||

go study

[craggy crown]

As always, is she more effective when on MLB?

[tight flame]

[tight flame]

now mlb her rn

[abstract valley]

i have

8k gems

???

[tight flame]

goi milea

[abstract valley]

[lilac raven]

3k is enough

[quiet cosmos]

Is Rem free train?

[waxen hazel]

Ok I got her… now what?

[lilac raven]

Now we wait for skill priority

If you have patients that is

[keen matrix]

time to watch everyone cook

[tight flame]

not me

[fossil fox]

Skill prio is obvi 10/4+/10

S2 depends on how hard boss hits

[dreamy spire]

She good?

[fleet light]

hehe, she's not keeping someone alive vs SI Alteisen's missile barrage, that's for sure

Though that would be mindnumbingly gamebroken

[lilac raven]

Thank you sir

[quiet cosmos]

does anyone have a tribe tower 210 to test Nihilister?

[fleet light]

Unfortunately passed that

[tropic walrus]

not the best test but I just left it on auto in boss shooting range, LB1, no elemental weakness, 2x ammo OL 2x atk up OL, gears are just lvl 0, 9 4 8

so she does hit pretty hard

[fleet light]

Doing the same

My Rem is currently 10/5/7 with 3 +0 OLs, 1 +0 T9M. [ATK +28.39% (3 rolls), ED +23.56% (1 roll), Max Ammo +27.84 (1 roll)]

[lament ravine]

Mmm tasty damage

[subtle lantern]

Is Rem as good as expected?

[fleet light]

vs Fire Code (Water Weak)

[thick kite]

Should i pity rem and save for next pilgrim?

[icy hazel]

[neat jay]

outdamage redhood?????

[subtle lantern]

As good as rh

[icy hazel]

Totally not ele rolls

[abstract valley]

time to le-

oh

[fleet light]

Can't push gear up anymore tho cuz gear exp is non-existent

[jade roost]

jesus bruh

[tight flame]

omg she powercreep rh

[jade roost]

its kinda funny seeing her outdps emilia so much

[tight flame]

[jade roost]

who is the attacker here

[fleet light]

Testing neutral team vs Iron Code (Wind-Weak) next

[lament ravine]

Its doro all over again

[jade roost]

are you a supporter because you heal, or are you a supporter so you dont outdamage sbs

[native quail]

any skill leveling rec and best cube in slot

[hearty tusk]

21k gems, wish me luck yall

[fleet light]

Best cube going to be either Bastion or Resilience depending on whether she's run with Dorovity

Her healing is based on damage dealt, not HP, so HP cube doesn't do much for her

[jade roost]

btw what ol on rem for this?

[fleet light]

[jade roost]

ty ty

wow so not that amazing rolls honestly

and still pulls this

[native quail]

hmmmm, im running liter bunny girls, rem and emelia

[fleet light]

Yeah, and her OL gear is all +0

Meanwhile X Lud is +5

Very solid damage

[hearty tusk]

time to cry

[novel moth]

💀

[lament ravine]

Wow

[hearty tusk]

HOLY SIT

[fleet light]

Oh, I like that. Lemme redo my last screenshot with the additional info

[ivory light]

What OL lines on rem?

[abstract socket]

Rem SSS tier?

https://tenor.com/view/i-love-emilia-re-zero-natsuki-subaru-subaru-natsuki-subaru-gif-18206325

[fleet light]

Rem: ATK +28.39% (3 rolls), ED +23.56% (1 roll), Max Ammo +27.84 (1 roll)

[ivory light]

whats the point of this test?

[wet iris]

What cube do you give Rem?

[fleet light]

General comparison of damage vs DPS units

I'm giving her Bastion if she's not with Privaty

[wet iris]

Otherwise?

[fleet light]

Resilience with Priv

[wet iris]

Cheers

Thank you kindly.

[fleet light]

I don't know PvP meta at all, so can't speak about there

[lament ravine]

Aren't machine guns no good in pvp

[fleet light]

Hmm

Scarlet not healing well

Ah, vs boss this is going better

Scarlet staying about here

so with properly levelled OL gear, she can probably keep Scarlet healthy

(or a higher S2, as mine is only 4)

[drifting birch]

I just looked at Rem's kit again, can she keep refreshing her atk buff stacks with enough burst cdr?

[fleet light]

That's vs Electric-Weak boss

[abstract valley]

16k CP diff

[drifting birch]

I'm thinking of using her with wife D + Alice/Scalter

[wet iris]

Wait, she works well with S.Anis, Scarlet?

[lilac raven]

Keep cooking guys
I tried to cook but i burned down the kitchen instead

[fleet light]

Why not? She's better Marciana

[jade roost]

i levelled 4 elysion gears instead of abnormal cause i mixed up the icons

[fleet light]

Lemme watch the buff counter this time

[wet iris]

Fair enough. I'm kinda new to team building in Nikke. I just pull for faves, but now that I have both Summer Anis and Rem my beloved, my Narmaya senses are eating good, so I guess I'll make a team with them.

[wet iris]

Can I replace Scarlet with Past Scarlet?

[peak hearth]

Rem is pretty much a power B2 unit like how BS: Scarlet shook things up or how Red Hood shook things up

Big show up and … it’s a collab limited unit. RIP

[abstract valley]

did you run resilience cube because of ammo reduction?

[fleet light]

I did, yeah

[peak hearth]

Makes you wonder if they have any plans to introduce something else as shockingly good next two to three months

[fleet light]

You could, though she's not ideal in that comp. Elegg would probably be superior to use with Doro + SBS

Though then you'd run into problem during raid of no healing

[lament ravine]

Maybe the pilgrim they release for 1.5 anni will be busted

[fleet light]

But yeah, 99% sure Rem will replace Marciana in all position's she'd normal exist

[drifting birch]

Huh, it turns out that Rem does keep stacking atk to max stacks with wife D in the team, that's crazy

It's so much attack for a healer and B2

[fleet light]

Second burst

Rem didn't lose stacks

[drifting birch]

Looks like Rem is one of those nikkes to give max overload to, because she will dish out damage like crazy

[fleet light]

Dorovity easily keeps her S1 up

[drifting birch]

126.6% atk up permanently at sl10...

[fleet light]

Fast reload is amusing

[drifting birch]

What the hell that reload

It's hilarious

That almost makes me want to use her with SAnis instead of the team I thought of

[plain ether]

She fast

[frail spruce]

Soo, worth mlb?

[plain ether]

People still testing

[fleet light]

Healer who can outdamage Doro

[subtle lantern]

Train. Not impressed

[fleet light]

Ah true, need to test variety of modes

Gonna try campaign

I'm walled currently

[plain ether]

Rem definitely needs some max ammo OLs to excel a bit

[jade roost]

this sarcastic or?

[fleet light]

Although CP loss will probably hurt me more ATM

[fleet light]

Yeah, my lack of them atm is why I'm leaning towards S Anis comp

[subtle lantern]

Is she nit good on boss?

[drifting birch]

Needs that and enough burst gen to make sure burst happens again within less than 10 seconds

Otherwise, no full stack

[dark fox]

MLB time?

Or bait?

[drifting birch]

Also needs sl10 on s1 for her own damage

[dreamy spire]

MLB 4x OLs with garbage stats
7/7/7 vs alteisen
managed to keep my A2 buff up until nearing the end

[dark fox]

I come too early i guess. 🏃‍♂️

[fleet light]

Only been an hour

Nothing to see but casual testing

[plain ether]

Relax she's not going anywhere

[tender loom]

Damn thats broken. She did the 5th highest dmg

[drifting birch]

Nice A2 damage

[harsh garden]

not bad for A2

[dark fox]

I think it isn't far to compare Rem damage to those RL. Try something lower tier such as Scarlet

[drifting birch]

Also she heals more the more damage she deals, right?

[plain ether]

Yep

[drifting birch]

So she also needs s1 leveled up to keep A2 healed, probably

[fleet light]

Combination of S1 and S2

cuz S2 is what affects the heal ratio

[drifting birch]

Yeah she might be a 10/10/10

[fleet light]

S1 is definitely more important

[drifting birch]

She needs S1 for damage and heal, S2 for heal and S3 for support

[tight flame]

doro is dying bro

[spark pulsar]

She can't fkn heal scarlet

[drifting birch]

Also need to test it in 3 min stages

I don't have enough manuals to max her though

[fleet light]

Yeah, without a core to hit, Doro still crushes her in damage

[tender loom]

Doro also got crushed

[fleet light]

That was a skill issue

not a Doro issue

Missed a missile

[wet iris]

So you said without Privaty, Bastion, but with Privaty it would be Resilience no?

[fleet light]

That's my opinion, yeah

[wet iris]

Cheers

[fleet light]

No other cube really benefits her

unless HP/DEF would be used in PvP just to buff Emilia

[spark pulsar]

Check if she can heal scarlet

[fleet light]

but MG, so

[spark pulsar]

At what lvl S2 does she begin to heal scarlet

[jade roost]

She is but with no core machine gun loses some value and on the other hand she almost reaches your lud in damage which is showing shes strong, you wouldnt say xlud sucks just cause of this battle no?

[fleet light]

Mine can keep Scarlet at 75% with 10/5

3 OLs +0

Her S2 needs levels for sure

7 minimum unless using RLs for DPS

Feeling a bit anemic with only 5 atm

[fleet light]

Lemme record a longer clip

[spark pulsar]

Her healing is not enough

[spark pulsar]

@fossil fox whsn does her heal become enough

[subtle lantern]

I see, thanks

[fossil fox]

idk man im at work

[subtle lantern]

Stop working

Cook

[drifting birch]

This was my first test after overloading Rem

[dark fox]

Shift Up: let's bait some water dps because ppl will bite no matter what

[fleet light]

She's gotta build stacks, but she's evening out as long as she can keep firing during burst; similar situation to Alice in that reloading during full burst is VERY BAD

[drifting birch]

She's 7/4/6 and she's keeping A2 healthy

[fleet light]

And having better gear (aka more damage) will improve her heal in addition to increasing skill level

[craggy crown]

Is there other alt units to replace A2 in Rem build?

[harsh garden]

what is your A2 skills please

[drifting birch]

4/4/4, she's barely invested

[harsh garden]

I will do some test with my A2 7/7/7 ol geared

but I need to invest on Rem

[fleet light]

I have a 9/10/9 A2 I can test

[drifting birch]

A2 loses less HP the higher level her burst is, from what I'm reading

[harsh garden]

good!

[harsh garden]

yes

[fleet light]

Max core as well, so lots of HP to lose

[harsh garden]

will be a good test

[drifting birch]

Seems like Rem alone keeps A2 healed up

[harsh garden]

I was waiting Rem to test and push more campaign with A2/SBS

[dreamy spire]

my C7 A2 drops her buffs after awhile

[ember plover]

A2 is better than Emilia with remn?

[dreamy spire]

bursts at 2:45 drops at 2:16 ish

[drifting birch]

Are you bursting with A2 on the first burst?

[dreamy spire]

yeah

4x OL 7/7/7 C7 A2

[drifting birch]

Rem heals a lot more from second burst onwards because she needs to stack

[peak hearth]

So basically looks like Rem is good but her ability to heal depends a lot on her ability as a carry

[fleet light]

Need Max Ammo or Privaty to keep up the buff

[peak hearth]

If you leave her on the cheap and don’t do anything to turn her into a great carry, she’ll heal terribly

[fleet light]

My A2 manages to get low enough to drop

[peak hearth]

Unless you fight easier enemies or enemies with no Def

[fleet light]

cuz of reloads

I only have a single (low) Max Ammo roll on Rem atm

Have some rocks tho

[craggy crown]

For A2, 7/7/7 is good enough if no LB

[drifting birch]

Oh yeah, high def does reduce heals

Guess Rem will have to be 10/10/10 for that

[dreamy spire]

mine's C7, i usually need to run her with rapunzel

[fleet light]

Not used to fighting train in square format, so pardon the garbage playing

[drifting birch]

Also needs lots of extra ammo

[fleet light]

A2's burst drops around 2:08 (battle timer)

[drifting birch]

I tested mine with 507 max ammo

[harsh garden]

So finally Rem needs good investment with Ol gears to really sustain units

[drifting birch]

Ye

[dreamy spire]

plus if the sr boss likes to target highest atk unit

its over for me

[fleet light]

Her personal heal if no RLs on the team is hilarious tho

[drifting birch]

I also was thinking of another thing

I'm testing her with Alice, which skews the test results

If I understand the effect right, she also shares Alice's healing with the entire team during burst

[lilac raven]

Can't believe I'm fishing for abnormal arm gear now

Simping is really scary

[spark pulsar]

I think rem is good but she might just be worse than Marciana when it comes to heals, if Marciana is still used..

[still tide]

how you dont have 4-5 set abnormal gear already

such bad spook

[subtle lantern]

Didn't live up to the hype?

[still tide]

[spark pulsar]

My fear is
Rem can't heal

[fleet light]

Yeah, Marciana beats her for healing by cost effectiveness for sure

[spark pulsar]

Does this demote her to SS tier?
We don't know for sure yet. Because I have no one here testing at S2 lvl10

[fleet light]

Need to whale to make Rem a good healer

[lilac raven]

I have a full abnormal set for Emilia, ram and 2B but missing Arm gear for pascal and Rem

[hearty tusk]

is rem really that good

[tender loom]

Marciana also got better jiggles per second

[hearty tusk]

im trying ehr out and she seems not that good but im also new so

[still tide]

isnt rem skill 2 heal

[spark pulsar]

Rem's whole character model is broken

[still tide]

[lilac raven]

Best i can do is this

[spark pulsar]

Reza you got any info on how well rem is being placed?

[spark pulsar]

Bruh

[storm eagle]

unlimite powe

[spark pulsar]

Someone gets his account and run tests

[subtle lantern]

I trusted you, golden ticket. L5 OL, and skills :). hope she is getting uses somewhere

[drifting birch]

Actually I can't tell if Alice's heals are shared to the team during burst because of Rem

[lilac raven]

Teach me how to do tests magic man because I can't cook at all

[drifting birch]

Or if only Rem heals are shared

[spark pulsar]

Rem is 100% being used for solo raids / union raids

[fleet light]

The thing about Rem that I'm interested in

With enough dupes + her self-buff

[thick kite]

uh-huh

[spark pulsar]

She is not SSS tier for campaign, that I'll say.

[fleet light]

she can probably get higher ATK than Attackers who lack self-ATK buffs

meaning she can take the aggro

[drifting birch]

She does for sure

[fleet light]

and if there are no RLs, she can heal herself insanely

[thick kite]

so fellas,

[drifting birch]

She gets 126.6% atk up permanently once fully stacked

[lilac raven]

So what's a good team for her

[thick kite]

i got 400 pity,

[drifting birch]

And it only takes what, 30 seconds to get there

[spark pulsar]

Run:
Liter rem scarlet A2 Guillotine

On union shooting range solo boss, electric type

[spark pulsar]

Show results

[fleet light]

so I'm wondering if she's actually better compared to Noise for SR

[thick kite]

i wanna pull rem cuz waifu and i also want to save for next pilgrim,

[drifting birch]

I mean, she's a 20s B2

[fleet light]

Built-in taunt by ATK buff, heavy self healing, and okay team healing

[drifting birch]

Hard to compare that with Noise

[fleet light]

I mean what she offers the team

[spark pulsar]

Noise? Bruh noise is nothing.
Rem > noise.

Rem will be able to heal with ele at least and overall rem is more useful than noise.

[thick kite]

word?

[novel moth]

if 4 nikkes 100% hp, her heal during burst still /5?

[fleet light]

Seems like it

Scarlet wasn't getting higher healing in Union Shooting Range

[drifting birch]

Rem kept my 4/4/4 A2 healthy in shooting range at 7/4/6, so I think she's fantastic

[lilac raven]

I uh don't have A2, Guillotine is in a very investments state and Scarlet doesn't have any manufacturer gear

[fleet light]

Rem is definitely good for sure

[lilac raven]

[fleet light]

Must-have one copy

The question is more how much to invest in dupes

[grim pagoda]

So…F2P go for 1 copy of rem?

[drifting birch]

I almost feel bad dumping all this on her and not getting more copies, but I have to save the rest

[fleet light]

She's a healer who can outdamage Dorothy vs bosses with cores

[drifting birch]

Oh yeah, everything about her is so much better against bosses with cores

She's an MG

[fleet light]

That alone is must-have imo, even if her healing may potentially be worse than Marciana; Marciana offers practically zero damage whatsoever

In SR, you want to squeeze as much damage as possible, so skill can potentially offset the difference in healing

[drifting birch]

I'm actually curious to see if anyone can outheal her at max investment vs. bosses with core

[fleet light]

I'm going for max core atm, so I'll retest healing Scarlet when I'm done

[drifting birch]

I don't have Scarlet so I can't test that, only A2

A2 stays in HP range for sure unless she takes a lot of damage from the boss

[crystal imp]

so is rem's healing not as good as it was thought it would be?

or ppl just need to test more

[fleet light]

I didn't think her healing would be great to begin with

That was my biggest concern

[drifting birch]

Yeah it's not even funny how much she heals, my 4/4/4 A2 doesn't go below 80% on the shooting range fire boss

[fleet light]

cuz during burst it's weaker than Milk's healing

[fossil fox]

she heals off her damage so do u guys have her s1 at 10 too

[fleet light]

Rather, since it's based on how much damage she's dealing

until you make her deal damage, her healing is questionable

Meanwhile 4/4/4 Marciana goes BRRRRRRR

[drifting birch]

My A2 is too weak to get proper damage, but still

[fleet light]

Also means that bosses without cores will yield less healing sine Rem can't deal as much damage

[quiet cosmos]

Wait why is your Alice bad

[drifting birch]

Because I'm paying more attention to the healing than Alice DPS

[subtle lantern]

U dont burst a2?

[drifting birch]

I am bursting a2, but the shooting range boss doesn't have parts

Or anything other than core

[harsh garden]

If I am not wrong she heals RL with her S1 and S2 (normally) and everyone only with her S1 so she is not optimal to heal no RL units

[fleet light]

As long as your burst gen is fine, there's no problem

S Mary also only heals during burst

[subtle lantern]

A2 burst she get all 3 effects right from 1 burst? Or is it 1 effect per burst. Never used her

[drifting birch]

It's everything at once

[neat jay]

rem is 10/5/7 here you said?

[peak hearth]

Yep

[fleet light]

and MLB

Now she's Core 5

Card got locked tho, so waiting on authentification text

[peak hearth]

I’m going to say this is a “carry healer”, she has to be geared and prepped like a carry, in order to be a good healer

[fleet light]

Don't want to use golden mileage if I don't have to

[drifting birch]

She needs as much investment as possible, she really is a carry healer

[peak hearth]

Idk how to phrase it but basically, you want more copies, more OLs, more atk, heck you even want to buff her dmg somehow which means pairing Rem with Liter if you can, etc

[fleet light]

She's permanent Helm but she has to deal the damage herself

[drifting birch]

Biggest difference at max investment is probably whether or not the enemy has core

MG damage application on core at basically any range is impressive

[fleet light]

Which means during SR Phase 2, her healing will be great. Before then...

(unless we get a core in Phase 1)

[quiet cosmos]

should I gamble for mlb in 80 pulls?

[drifting birch]

Then again, she does this as a 20s B2, almost 0 competition there

[fleet light]

I can't tell you how to gamble

[quiet cosmos]

my luck so far has been pretty bad

[peak hearth]

Took me 300 for MLB, godspeed (secretly curses you to need 400 pulls)

[fleet light]

Though I don't consider any banner worth rolling on aside from limiteds, so

[crystal imp]

did anyone get a lot of off banner units pulling for rem?

[fleet light]

I did

[crystal imp]

this god damn game gave me like 6 off banner units im so pissed

[fleet light]

3 Pilgrim drops, 10+ spooks

[peak hearth]

I got two Isabels

[fossil fox]

core 4 in 480 pulls im dead

[drifting birch]

I golden ticketed Rem, I don't have that many gems left due to stuff like wife D

[fleet light]

Same boat

Core 3 in 420 pulls

[drifting birch]

And Emilia

[fleet light]

used 400 tickets for core 5 and just hoping for one more natural pull to ticket core max...

[peak hearth]

Nice, higher than my 300 I feel better now

Oh core 4

RIP

[drifting birch]

Best of luck with the core 7

[neat jay]

this test was with these stats Rem: ATK +28.39% (3 rolls), ED +23.56% (1 roll), Max Ammo +27.84 (1 roll) and one REM copy?

[peak hearth]

Okay I’m taking a break, maybe tomorrow will be luckier

[quiet cosmos]

50 pulls in and 1 Biscuit

yeah my luck already sucks

[fleet light]

MLB

[neat jay]

gotcha thanks

[grim pagoda]

Lmfao. Bank intervention

[quiet cosmos]

nvm, average luck with rem, viper biscuit in 60 pulls

[drifting birch]

If you get some really gnarly performance on high investment Rem, do ping me

I'm curious about what kind of damage + healing she puts out

[quiet cosmos]

should I spend 600 of 1002 mileage for mlb

[grim pagoda]

Nah

[fleet light]

Only if you like Rem the character enough

If you only have 1000 gold mileage and are only doing it for meta, I'd say pass

This is what my mileage looks like after using 400

[quiet cosmos]

Nah, I'm not supporting this BS
I'm not buying event pass or the gacha skin rolls lol

even though I'm short 4 rocks

[fleet light]

Testing Electric-weak Union boss again with Core 5

[harsh garden]

disapointed by Rem she needs a lot of investment to really carry

[quiet cosmos]

yeah feels like a rock and skill module waiting game

[harsh garden]

if the game was giving us more mats no problem

[fleet light]

Scarlet looks a lot healthier now; my S2 is just a bit too low

[quiet cosmos]

how does the healing work

[fleet light]

Mechanically?

[quiet cosmos]

yeah when it's split between Rem and 2 RL or all allies

[fleet light]

Core 5 results

At max core, she may tie Scarlet vs an Electric weak boss

[quiet cosmos]

so the best way to use Rem is no RL at all?

[peak hearth]

I think I saw that Rem doesn’t divide her healing?

[fleet light]

Hm? Unless Rem is the one taking aggro, there's no harm in having RL teammates

If Rem's taking aggro, having no RLs would be ideal since she gets her full healing

[peak hearth]

Which means having RL partners doesn’t dilute her heals

If anything it turns the RLs into pseudo tanks

[fleet light]

She does divide healing

[peak hearth]

Really?

Hmm

100% sure?

[fleet light]

At least, the Japanese specifically says she does, and it feels that way to me

Rem herself heals insanely fast when alone

[peak hearth]

So when she bursts

Her heals drops to 20%?

[quiet cosmos]

so just grab 1 Rem, and GTFO?

[quiet cosmos]

80%

[fleet light]

Lemme record rq

[peak hearth]

Going from heal 1 person = 100% per, to healing 5 people = 20% per

[quiet cosmos]

at least it's better than Yuni

[peak hearth]

This is going to need conclusive evidence

It also means her S2 is pretty important

It’s basically offsetting this dilution as much as it can

[fossil fox]

Rem god

Core 7

[quiet cosmos]

WHALE

[grim topaz]

Where is yours, huh?

Square up.

[peak hearth]

You know what this means?

Complete domination by the blue-haired

[fleet light]

Hm, finding a stage that allows me to take a small amount of damage is difficult

[grim topaz]

So from what I'm getting so far, Rem's S2 is required to be as high as possible?

[peak hearth]

Technically, you can get away with lvl4 or so

[lilac raven]

Need a blue hair burst 1 to finish the set

[peak hearth]

The key is how much damage she can deal

As for whether her healing is diluted by how many are participating in the shared healing

I still want conclusive evidence

I tried to test it and thought it wasn’t diluted

I might’ve been tricked by buffs and such

[fleet light]

Video uploading

[harsh garden]

Her S2 is only impacting herself and 2 RL units for what she is mostly designed, no?

[spark pulsar]

Where B1 blue hair

[grim topaz]

Got it, I'll just check here from time to time. I got her at 10/10/10 already

[fleet light]

What's important is if she's providing Helm-levels of healing during burst or not

or sub-Milk levels

[peak hearth]

Yeah if Rem makes whole squad heal like cracked Scarlet drunk on Helm lifeleech buff, she’s great

[harsh garden]

ok then question solved lol

[fleet light]

Her healing speeds up significantly outside of burst

[grim topaz]

Bruh, I gave my Rem everything from Max OL to max skills lmao

[fleet light]

See especially at the last burst with only RH and Rem

[grim topaz]

I want to see if the investment was worth haha. I'm not a tester at all. I see Rem, I go monke.

[fleet light]

Rem is so durable

[spark pulsar]

What skill levels are these

[fleet light]

10/5/7. If my card would unlock, I'd have 10/7

I think I can level burst more, but no point atm since I'm not testing her offensive buffing potential

[spark pulsar]

You're not running an RL so heals outside burst aren't getting divided

[fleet light]

I know, that's the point. I'm comparing burst heals vs solo heals

[spark pulsar]

With no RL, she is sustainable

[peak hearth]

Okay, I viewed this, she does not dilute heals on burst. Nice

[fleet light]

Rem's healing speeds up outside of burst, meaning the healing is being divided during burst

[fleet light]

[spark pulsar]

She does, quite a lot
One nikke died so she was dividing heals between 4 units

That heal SAnis was receiving was negligible asf

[peak hearth]

More like she had bad healing originally

Let’s check

[spark pulsar]

She has good self heal

[peak hearth]

What was the Rem in this fight?

0LB, MLB, MCB?

[spark pulsar]

Outside of burst

[spark pulsar]

10-5-7
@fleet light dupes?

[peak hearth]

And what gear, T9M lvl0, T9M lvl5, OL lvl5?

And what synchro was this?

[fleet light]

Compare her healing at 34 seconds (burst) to 45 seconds (no burst

Core 5 atm

360 synchro

[spark pulsar]

What gear and sync

[peak hearth]

This is her healing toward the end as she was dying with 0 stacks

[fleet light]

Rem is 3 OLs +0, +0 T9M

[peak hearth]

So 1,447

Per bullet

[tight flame]

Does she take agro boss?

[agile needle]

Outside of burst,she's just self healing. Does that even matter?

[fleet light]

Solo heal, no burst

[peak hearth]

Here’s her healing, during full burst, and I think her higher heals here are because it’s full burst dmg and buffs

[fleet light]

3 people alive, burst

She lost healing during burst

[peak hearth]

So to me it seems like 1,447 last stand is lower than 1,724 full burst, which seems to suggest it didn’t drop to 20% of what she’s healing for

[fleet light]

She lost 126% ATK

[peak hearth]

3,006 and 2,423 isn’t dropping to 20%

How many in squad alive?

[fleet light]

3

[peak hearth]

So heals would’ve dropped to 33% of original

[fleet light]

True

[peak hearth]

If it was diluted the way we’re hearing

Either it’s modified or it ignores Rem herself, or something else’s up

3,006 should’ve dropped to 1,000s

[fallen ferry]

When in doubt blame shiftup code

[fleet light]

Will be a lot easier to test tomorrow vs Gravedigger

Train hits too hard

Gravedigger's first phase deals enough damage for easy testing without being lethal

[peak hearth]

It’s the first time we ran into “Share healing”

[fleet light]

Oh wait, I can use Crow

Time to ATK debuff Alteisen

[peak hearth]

I’m not convinced yet but so far I still have reason to believe that if Rem self heals for 5,000, she heals whole squad for 5,000 if she was allowed to

And if you add 2 RLs, she’d heal those two for 5,000 each too

[fleet light]

I honestly forgot their were healing numbers tbh

[peak hearth]

You can test with that actually

[fleet light]

Actually yeah, lemme add RLs to my campaign stage team

[peak hearth]

Swap in RL and see if that RL gets same healing as Rem

And add a 2nd RL and see if it’s still the same

I didn’t want to do that testing 👀 I stopped at full squad run with just Rem because I assumed it’d be the same in full burst

[spark pulsar]

Don't use 2RLs with rem

Just use 1 RL

[peak hearth]

You’ll want to use something else other than hard campaign too

Because if your power drops her healing worsens

[fleet light]

But the level of healining between Rem and the RL should be the same

[peak hearth]

True

[novel moth]

midcarlet

[shell dome]

[fleet light]

690 on both SBS and Rem

Gonna try to get SBS killed

[peak hearth]

Demon

[fleet light]

Oh wait, if I switch characters, I see how much they're being healed still

Neat 👀

That makes this easy

[peak hearth]

Good good

Though if there’s a bug where Rem is still dividing healing to dead Nikkes

That won’t be funny will it

[harsh garden]

@peak hearth during burst

same value

[fleet light]

Would help if Liter doesn't die immediately...

[peak hearth]

I don’t know what to read from this

Sure they’re same value, are you saying it’s same as Rem by herself?

During Full Burst?

[harsh garden]

let me see

[peak hearth]

Er this phrasing is bad for Full Burst

But I understand now what you meant

You meant before Full Burst they were healed for 1323

And during Full Burst, it’s still approximately the same even as she is healing whole squad

[fleet light]

Actually, I screwed up stacks there I think cuz AI dumb

[peak hearth]

Since this is a question of healing

Just throw them into simulation room or something as a 2 man and a 1 man

[fleet light]

Actually yeah, going to avoid full burst

only need Rem's burst

[peak hearth]

Rem + RL, test, then Rem, test

If Rem solo heals same as Rem + RL, sharing didn’t dilute

Try two RLs for good measure after that. Still same? No dilute outside of Rem too then.

[fleet light]

Ah true

I'll do that

[fossil fox]

Give me a week to buy more gems

[grim topaz]

I saw your pulls lol. I had the same amount but managed to clinch it at +7

[fossil fox]

[fleet light]

LOL

Rem is truly reverse Guillotine

She's solo clearing 5C

[harsh garden]

@peak hearth during burst

Rem/A2

[fossil fox]

No testing needed trust me guys

[void oak]

nice got her in 20

no pin for skill priority. should i just be going 7/7/7?

[fleet light]

I think the burst stacks were just making the numbers convoluted

[fleet light]

S1 wants 10 for sure

10/7/X would be my stance so far

[peak hearth]

I’ll also test in shooting range, I’ll try Rem solo, Rem + 1 RL, Rem + 2 RLs, Rem + No RL Squad, Rem + 2 RL Squad, and in all cases I’ll have everyone but Rem in cover

[fleet light]

With X being if you want to pair her with RLs

[peak hearth]

All with scope lock

This should be 100% certain

[void oak]

alright thanks

[fleet light]

Yeah, since healing numbers show up even at full hp, shooting range is easiest

I didn't think they would

[peak hearth]

Okay

It’s conclusive. Heals are diluted

Buffs and Full Burst damage increase, everything, were confusing me and us

In the shooting range tests I did, Rem clearly lost healing potency

[fleet light]

Japanese usually is accurate

[spark pulsar]

So the "problem" rem has for not healing enough is circumvented if:

• no RL is run with Rem.
• boss targets highest atk.
• doesn't have so much damage on other units that cover alone can't help those units live. Units that receive severe damage // kill themselves may not be able to recover fast enough to live through another hit.

This reduces the viability of upgrading Rem's burst.

[fleet light]

but even if the heals are diluted

[peak hearth]

Rem + Laplace only

[fleet light]

Rem is god

Solo Sim room

[spark pulsar]

Rem is a top top tier DPS, but her healing is Sus.

[peak hearth]

Rem + Laplace + SBS

[fleet light]

Final Rating: Better Helm

Elysion loses again

[peak hearth]

And solo Rem

[spark pulsar]

Helm is better

Healwise

The thing is

[grim topaz]

So, how's Rem looking in terms of overall viability?

[peak hearth]

You can see it going from 1.4k (Solo Remix) to 700 (Rem + Laplace) to 400 (Rem + Laplace + SBS)

[spark pulsar]

Rem is SUCH a good dps

[fleet light]

Not actually tho

Helm only heals every 40s

Rem heals every 20s

[peak hearth]

I’m going to try full squad to test if it still dilutes outside of burst

[fleet light]

All she needs is 50% Helm's healing power and she's better

[spark pulsar]

Like

• REMGOD for DPS
• REMGOD for offensive RL buffs
• Remmid for heals

[fleet light]

Seems to me like X Lud

DPS who offers a bit extra

Don't consider her a primary healer, but a DPS who provides heals

[spark pulsar]

Rem is a

• top tier UR Unit
• For SR:
• Top tier SR DPS+RL buffs
• Top tier Tanker for SR where only she gets damaged.
• Ok tier Tanker/Healer for SR where team gets damaged.
• Good tier Campaign DPS

[peak hearth]

Does not dilute if no RLs in squad when Rem isn’t bursting

[grim topaz]

So she's a DPS that can also provide okay amounts of healing as a side bonus.

[fleet light]

Yeah, in SR, she could very well be a tank

[peak hearth]

Now testing if Rem dilutes on bursting, trying to use a B1 and B3 that doesn’t buff squad

[fleet light]

S Anis squad with Biscuit, give her extra damage via Biscuit and watch her take aggro from S Anis and Privaty

Although Biscuit would hurt her self-healing, Biscuit's burst provides more lifesteal, so

[tender loom]

something scuffed, like it does dilute, but not as much as you'd expect

[spark pulsar]

Rem can't heal during burst

8% of total damage during burst as team heal per unit?
Mid

[fossil fox]

4x ele 4x atk 4x max ammo surely can heal?

[spark pulsar]

She is a top tier DPS tho

[fleet light]

Yeah, my testing is subpar atm cuz my OL gear isn't upgraded

[spark pulsar]

Is it better to try and get 100% crit rate

[fossil fox]

Are u guys testing with 300 ammo rem with no ammo support

[spark pulsar]

Me in Doro priv

[fleet light]

Yes

[fossil fox]

Idk if this healing is an issue

[fleet light]

Well, I have one Max Ammo roll

A bad one

Oh right, I swiped and have more rocks

[fossil fox]

Well in doro priv aint she outta ammo at end of fb

[fleet light]

Yeah, Dorovity healing seemed quite good

[fossil fox]

All im saying is testing shud b done more realistically

3x max ammo or higher

[fleet light]

I think with +5/+5/+5 she'll keep Scarlet at full

[fossil fox]

More firetime

[spark pulsar]

I have 2 ammo rolls, I don't have more rocks

[spark pulsar]

But still I think it's still an issue

[fossil fox]

Buy the rocks

[spark pulsar]

I think just her as DPS in UR
In Doro priv

For SR wait for enikk

And don't expect heals

Unless she's solo tanking

[hearty tusk]

best cube for rem?

[peak hearth]

Yes there might be a minimum amount it can dilute to

Which is why it threw us off

[tender loom]

688 outside burst.
229 when burst.
should be split among 5 right?
unless them being at full hp prevents split

[peak hearth]

Confirmed it does dilute by full squad

But not to the steep extent we were expecting

Like from 1,400s to 570s

Instead of 1,400s to 280s

Corrected

There’s also damage from full burst that may have influenced this

570 x 5 = 2,850s

50% more of 1,400 = 2,100s

Oh Rem self buff on burst

Nope that’s only crit

Though maybe it’s because of ATK stacks going up quick on bursting?

Anyways

Conclusive, dilutes, and that’s RIP

[fleet light]

Yeah, it's the ATK stacks

Probably best to test on union shooting range boss and look at max stack numbers

[peak hearth]

Could also be 40% healing per during full burst, instead of 20%, in full squad

Easy test can confirm

4 RLs + Rem (forgot S2 caps it to 2 RLs, oops)

Doing that now

[fleet light]

I can swipe again

Really wish we could buy multiple things in one transaction

[peak hearth]

No doesn’t work

Because 2 RLs max RIP for the S2

[fleet light]

Hm?

[spark pulsar]

I suggest running 0 RLs with her

Upgrade burst for crit buffs

[broken moss]

casters atk buffs go off base or final atk?

[tender loom]

base

[fleet light]

Hm? Rem isn't Caster's ATK

It's based on attack damage

[tender loom]

i think he asking about burst buff

[broken moss]

but her's says casters atk on her burst, weird

[spark pulsar]

Rem is caster's

[novel moth]

her burst for allies only, not for herself

[fleet light]

Oh, the burst

I'm blind, sorry

Healing isn't based on caster's

But the ATK buff for RLs is, yeah

[broken moss]

mb if i didn't have enough clarification in my question haha. i was just trying to figure out if volume would be better placed there or liter for like an SR. i'd assume volume so liter can buff a better team yeah? i was looking at liter atk buff pertaining to increasing rem's burst atk buff was all

[fleet light]

So she wants ATK OL subs for her own damage and healing, but, if you're only using her as a buffer, then technically she doesn't need them

[broken moss]

gotcha

[fleet light]

As for the B1, Liter is always a better buffer unless you don't want max ammo

but depends on how the team comps end up for solo raid

[broken moss]

that's why im saying for SR where u can't have same units on multiple teams, but fair enough on the second message

i only just really started taking SR seriously this past like 2 cycles, so kinda noob at the comp building

[fleet light]

Considering Rem is a high tier water DPS, she might be on the "better team"

[drifting birch]

Or you spread them out if you need water damage on every team

[fleet light]

Also depends on how important cover is going to be

Cuz might need Liter on bunnies for cover recovery

then Biscuit on Dorovity

[tender loom]

seems like her own self healing doesnt get diluted as much as expected. but the shared heal seems to be doing the expected amount (divided by 5) when in full squad.

[peak hearth]

Oh?

[fleet light]

Yeah, I was noticing that, too

[peak hearth]

I thought I covered that by switching Nikkes

[fleet light]

Seems like with 1 RL it was dividing 66%-33%

but thought I was crazy

[tender loom]

like im swapping back and forth between her and an ally and noticing rem is healing herself more than the others

[peak hearth]

I see

[fleet light]

With 2 RLs, 50%-25%-25%

[broken moss]

as much as i want to pull on anni banner for possibly new pilgrims and such, this is partly why i wanna skip and save for possible summer anis rerun lol

i wasn't here for it

[fleet light]

Pulling on Pilgrim banners isn't worth if you can manage to build up mileage

cuz 1% is a scam

[drifting birch]

Unless you also want the other pilgrims

[fleet light]

There's no Pilgrim rate up

for the others

same chance as normal banner

[drifting birch]

I thought the pilgrims had higher rates on pilgrim banners, nevermind

[fleet light]

Nope

Sadly

Only worth to pull if you are low on mileage

or 🐳

[broken moss]

fair enough, n sorry for the tangent since this rem thread tho

[fleet light]

Nah, it's relevant since whether to pull or not can be influenced by the likely Pilgrim banner in a month

[native quail]

misconception, it means higher chance to get that pilgrim unit IF you get a pilgrim while pulling

[broken moss]

also trying to figure out who tf to use as 5th unit

[fleet light]

We're expecting one for May's 1.5 anniversary

[broken moss]

like volume/liter, rem, 2 RL, and then wudda heck

[fleet light]

Honestly, atm, focusing on the RL buff is probably not worthwhile

[peak hearth]

Also this may itself be a misconception

For example, is it a situation where you first roll for manufacturer?

[fleet light]

The only strong RL DPS we have atm is SBS and conditionally A2

[peak hearth]

Then reroll for which Nikke?

[fleet light]

And SBS isn't likely to be paired with Rem I think

[peak hearth]

I’m thinking no

[broken moss]

guessing emil would go in a separate team if need water dps?

[fleet light]

Depending on what happens with Laplace's treasure, she may become relevant again tho

[drifting birch]

I like the RL buff because, at this point, Rem's complete

[peak hearth]

More like it’s a situation where all eligible units occupy a range of numbers, and when the RNG is done it simply grabs the unit it landed on

[drifting birch]

She's a DPS, a healer and an atk support all at the same time, on B2

[fleet light]

Ah yeah, duh, Rem is the other potential option

I'm still not convinced about Emilia tho personally

[drifting birch]

I got Emilia because I didn't want to miss out, that's it

[fleet light]

Based on how she performs in SR, I may get more

[peak hearth]

Well because of the healing diluting and the various tests we ran

[drifting birch]

I only had winter Ludmilla for proper water DPS so she will be useful there for sure, no question

[peak hearth]

Looks like Rem is a mediocre full squad healer - worse than Helm perhaps?

But for healing 1 RL, she’s pretty good

[fleet light]

Nah, heals twice as much as Helm

[peak hearth]

For healing 2 RL, still good

[drifting birch]

I don't want her for full squad healing, I want her to focus heal

[fleet light]

20s burst vs 40s burst

[drifting birch]

Solo Raid bosses love to do single target damage

[peak hearth]

Well, it’s certainly some kind of healing at least

[fleet light]

Helm only works for bosses that deal large damage every two burst cycles

Like she couldn't keep teams alive very well vs SB

[drifting birch]

Also yeah, if the other unit isn't a 20s burst, I'm not considering them

[fleet light]

Vastly improved

Let's see how she does healing Scarlet now

[spark pulsar]

[fleet light]

Never said she wasn't used

[spark pulsar]

No helm disrespect will be tolerated here

[peak hearth]

Helm is a terrible twerker!

[fleet light]

Just saying that, for people who don't have max core on everything and unlimited skill books, the 2B team ended in a wipe

I had to recommend people in my union switch to S Mary/Dolla from Volume/Mast to actually survive

and that's keeping Helm in

No Helm disrepecting from me I've liked her since she came out

[drifting birch]

I don't know much about meta optimization, I just realized that Rem keeps 30 stacks on her atk buff at all times and then I saw her healing on A2 and I was convinced

[fleet light]

Storm Bringer just had way too much damage for lower level/F2P

[peak hearth]

I’m actually pretty disappointed by the healing dilution

[spark pulsar]

I used helm

I'm f2p

[fleet light]

[spark pulsar]

Just needs skill

Or well
The right investments

And fast enough burst rotations

Kept my lb0 2b alive

[fleet light]

Does your 2B have good OL gear?

[spark pulsar]

Lvl0, 1 ele only

Iframe gaming

[fleet light]

Not subs

Levels

[spark pulsar]

Lvl 0 ol gear

[fleet light]

Interesting

[spark pulsar]

All 4

[fleet light]

My alt's 2B definitely couldn't survive Are you near Day 1 player?

[spark pulsar]

Yeah

[fleet light]

Ah yeah, that's probably why then

[spark pulsar]

That doesn't mean anything tho

[fleet light]

Most of the people who couldn't keep that team alive during last SR started at Over Zone

Waay less resources

Less recycle room levels

less dupes

[spark pulsar]

Dude
Recycling room gives nothing

[spark pulsar]

I'm f2p
Any spender >>

Anyways, the point is helm is good enough, always

[fleet light]

Kira specifically managed to keep Pepper alive vs Chatterbox buy purchasing more consoles for her

[spark pulsar]

There's no point arguing about it

[fleet light]

Six months of dailies even as F2P makes a huge difference