[D: Killer Wife] New Unit Megathread

[tulip wasp]

Or should I say RH is

[ocean ocean]

Liter or RH depend on stage

[tulip wasp]

For that context

[grizzled rock]

im shaking

[ocean ocean]

on some you need more than 2 burst rotation

more than 2 burst rotation > RH ded

[umbral sentinel]

Same here

[golden spire]

Ah sorry, terrible wording on my part; both are % by how my sleepy brain was thinking; meant how cores are multiplied later in the formula I should sleep

[lament spindle]

MW = Dorothy
BS = blanc noir
Harvester = S Neon/ Smary
Alexander = S Anis
Whitesmith = A2/2B
Mod = Tia Naga
Ultra = Red Hood
CB = xLud
Mat H = SBS
CC = M Priv
SB = DWife

Were bunnies during BS raid?

[golden spire]

They were

[raven zealot]

solo raid is advertisement for making u pull new banner

[lament spindle]

xd

[raven zealot]

[golden spire]

I'll reluctantly consider S Mary, but I will not accept S Neon since she was useless

Didn't think of Tia/Naga since I was thinking DPS units, but Tia's shield is definitely a counter to Mod

[lament spindle]

Yet she was used in some top 50 teams iirc

4 ele 4 max ammo neon would've been balling

[golden spire]

Yeah, leviathans could've used her

[raven zealot]

4 ele 4 ammo 4 atk sneon without burst while being element correct

[lament spindle]

We barely had DPS back then, were using shit like drake

[golden spire]

I MLB'd her but got better results without her cuz I didn't bother OLing

Comparitively recent units have been cheat-levels of good against the bosses

Don't use them and getting high results is near impossible

Do we know where in the damage formula DKW's pierce damage increase will occur yet?

Or do we need the patch data?

[lament spindle]

No, we dk shit about pierce damage yet

It's just assumptions

[golden spire]

Gotcha

[grizzled rock]

its prob damage up

like attack damage

nikke.gg updated formula per kira

👀

[golden spire]

That's what I'd hope it would be

[grizzled rock]

@tired summit sgay why is kosmiu and kira name on here

put my name on something useless like charge damage or crit damage

[golden spire]

So it would be additive with the Attack damage buff in that case?

5.06% (S2) + 13.55% (S1) assuming they're active at the same time

[lament spindle]

Didn't KosMiu find out that damage up thing

Oh wait this is smthng completely different

Sgay hasn't added where "distributed damage up" goes

[grizzled rock]

smh sgay

oh they already figured out where distr dmg from elegg goes

but i didnt read that chat lol

@tired summit can u get to work?

[proven pebble]

soo snow white wont be buffed by D because her base weapon ar type ?

[grizzled rock]

likely

[lament spindle]

Yeah, Kos said its additive to damage taken

[grizzled rock]

unlike they update

like elegg distr dmg did not sound like it wud work with doro burst

but it did

[proven pebble]

sad but maybe its like eleg and doro situation that says doro burst wont affected by eleg burst but now it did?

[lament spindle]

The interesting thing is that SW weapon type is SR in game files
But isn't treated like an SR by himeno buff

[grizzled rock]

ya its been known

[golden spire]

Do any transformed weapons work with weapon buffs?

Like Moran with Miranda?

[grizzled rock]

moran miranda tested already

doesnt work

i think sneon and tove tested too doesnt work

[golden spire]

Figured

Yeah, I knew S Neon didn't

[proven pebble]

show white

[grizzled rock]

sgay is here

[lament spindle]

Transformed weapons work differently but they still get range bonus of their parent weapon

[grizzled rock]

👀

[tired summit]

The update was supposed to be a joke

I was the one who told kosmiu to do stuff since I was too lazy to do it myself

[grizzled rock]

mf we know we been using SW AR range bonus in SR

[golden spire]

Yeah, it's buffs that I was wondering about

[tired summit]

Numbers are stinky

[golden spire]

cuz so far it seems like buffs from other Nikkes never work

[lament spindle]

I'm just listing it, you're not the only dude here

Most people don't know

[grizzled rock]

theres another sw thing that i havent seen mentioned

but im not gonna type it

[proven pebble]

i did dont know about that

[grizzled rock]

[proven pebble]

type it

[lament spindle]

Send a vn then

[pastel oar]

Like blanc?

[lament spindle]

[grizzled rock]

blanc is on another multiplier

[golden spire]

What was the reasoning that Elegg's buff wasn't going to work with Dorothy?

[grizzled rock]

the screenshot shows the lines

[pastel oar]

So whats dmg taken?

[lament spindle]

Yeah, but that's impossible so
It's additive to xLudmilla

[lament spindle]

He's talking about distributed damage buddy

[grizzled rock]

isnt he talking about blanc?

[lament spindle]

[grizzled rock]

lol

[tired summit]

I should remove those names

[proven pebble]

so too make sure D cdr buff is equivalent to liter you need lvl 7 D s2?

[tired summit]

Kinda forgot to remove them

[lament spindle]

Yes, but he replied to me talking about distributed damage buff

[grizzled rock]

[lament spindle]

And it being additive to damage taken

[grizzled rock]

idk wats happening

someone just buy me wife D pulls

im f2p

[pastel oar]

I was asking about which buff distr dmg is additive to

[grizzled rock]

whoever MLB's me wife D i will leak all SR strats

@tired summit where did tsuki say distributed dmg was

the same line as attack damage up/part damage?

[lament spindle]

No trust in kosmiu

[tired summit]

Damage taken
You fucking dolt

[lament spindle]

Smh

[grizzled rock]

wait

why is sgay so toxic

i miss when he was super gay

now he drinks... nvm

[tired summit]

I haven't drank in weeks
You annoying me
Soberly

[lament spindle]

He still is

[tired summit]

That's an insane feat

[grizzled rock]

no imeant u drink your own......

[golden spire]

Does it add to Damage Taken before multiplying with Damage Up?

[grizzled rock]

[golden spire]

Or after?

[tired summit]

I do not

[grizzled rock]

sure buddy

[tired summit]

It is an inside joke

[lament spindle]

Brother it's

Damage × (1+damage taken+distributed damage buff)

[golden spire]

Cool

[tired summit]

How about you start coercing your female intern
You virgin

[pastel oar]

So doro burst is not affected by dmg taken buff but its affected by distr dmg buff which is additive to dmg taken.

These devs bruh.

[grizzled rock]

yea thats why it weird

[grizzled rock]

shut up sgay

im not gettig fired for u

[golden spire]

Yeah, every time they add a new buff type, it's a fun time figuring out how it works

[tight laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/spaghetti-hungry-pasta-computer-gif-13499398

[lament spindle]

Watch piercing damage be additive to ATK buffs

[tight laurel]

I wonder if there's a coconut keeping the entire system running?

[grizzled rock]

imagine a triple pierce with this pierce dmg buff

[lament spindle]

Literally me when SW

[golden spire]

But SW doesn't get it

[grizzled rock]

SW gonna be hard to run

since u gotta shoot 2 reg bullets b4 sw bursting

[lament spindle]

I know but we never know

[grizzled rock]

onto a part and a core

[golden spire]

I hope she does

[lament spindle]

They did it to Dorothy

They might do it to SW

[golden spire]

and Heavy Metal comes back next UR

[grizzled rock]

is heavy metal the 8 part boss

[golden spire]

Yes

[lament spindle]

Yes

[grizzled rock]

😮‍💨

[lament spindle]

Overcock doko

[golden spire]

I guess how pierce buffs work will probably determine how she lines up with Liter this raid

[tight laurel]

Is Liter being challenged in general or just specifics?

[grizzled rock]

well stormbringer core is prob a core and a part lol

nah liter generally better

[lament spindle]

Nah

[grizzled rock]

dont get baited by the SR

[golden spire]

Just this raid

[lament spindle]

Liter is god

[grizzled rock]

they do this shit everytime

[golden spire]

Similar to A2 being a god vs Whitesmith then being reduced to a conditional campaign pusher afterward

[lament spindle]

Real

[ocean ocean]

no unit can be as versatile as granny

[lament spindle]

[golden spire]

Only Pilgrims and pairs can stand the tests of time after SR ends

[ocean ocean]

support

[golden spire]

Actually, X Lud has done well

[lament spindle]

I know what I said

[tight laurel]

A2 ruins Train, don't forget.

[golden spire]

So does Snow White

[lament spindle]

Can't be more versatile than a unit who can literally do 3 types of bursts

[tight laurel]

No one has suggested a SW team for Train to me n

[ocean ocean]

that's unfair waaaaaaaa

[grizzled rock]

i one shot train with sw with tia naga sw maxwell rh

[tight laurel]

I don't trust one shot claims.

[grizzled rock]

🤦‍♂️

r u not hitting 3 parts + body lol

thats 4x dmg

[tight laurel]

Folks said the same about Red Hood and Gravedigger and never had it work n

[grizzled rock]

sw is literally a one shot

on sw burst

lol

[ocean ocean]

you can kill GD with RH in 1 burst

just bunnies

[grizzled rock]

yea rh kills in like 5 sec for me if i manual to hit core and part

[golden spire]

It's not a free kill; gotta know where to aim

[ocean ocean]

SI become a joke with all the new unit

[tight laurel]

I've never had it happen so I don't believe this.

[golden spire]

https://youtu.be/8W1g4HH_hPw?si=NjGQvz7ctJ8R3ocd&t=244

Time stamped for GD

5s clear

[tight laurel]

K, and?

[golden spire]

Just showing that it's possible

I think it took Blanc coming out for all SI to be OHKO-able, but don't remember

[grizzled rock]

so if u've never seen something irl, it doesnt exist?

do i exist

[tight laurel]

Beyond text, no.

[grizzled rock]

[tight laurel]

Everything you say you are or have done is just pixels on a screen to me.

So, until I experience it I take it all with a mine worth of salt.

[raven zealot]

Can confirm sjay dragged me off cyberpunk to go test elegg burst and how it worked

[hallow hazel]

So I'm assuming for D's gear you're going to just want the typical stuff and then a line or 2 of ammo so she can proc her cooldown quicker?

[lament spindle]

Just ammo I think

I'm not sure if charge speed is that necessary

[fathom blaze]

can't be worst than pellets

[hallow hazel]

4 lines ammo probably

Then if charge speed isn't needed I'd imagine the rest are just attack and elemental

Since she doesn't seem like she needs anything else

[golden spire]

Nothing else is generally useful aside from those four

[raven zealot]

i think instead of atk/ele the true play is spending those rocks on ur main dps

[ripe grove]

Maybe unpopular opinion but, I was disappointed with D.Wife shooting

Seeing it suddenly made me feel she’s a plain old lady wife

Other than her handbag/purse

Disguise too effective

It’s alright though

I’ll just stare at BS Scarlet ass or someone else while D.Wife’s in the squad for combat

Tbh it hardly would bother me if half of the Nikkes disappeared while fighting, like if there was a transparency option for Nikke bodies during battle

[grand fractal]

It is the leg possition, but yes, designwise her shooting pose isn't the best at all

[ripe grove]

Still waiting for zoom out feature so I can finally see all Nikkes at once on tablet instead of being stuck with just 1

[grand fractal]

That MLB screen tho

[hallow hazel]

At a certain point your main dpses don't need rocks anymore

[dusk forge]

no such thing

unless you have 4 ele ammo attack Max rolled

[hallow hazel]

I'm just him

The new D is just a one piece reference if you think about it

Killer D. Wife

[raven zealot]

U sure it's not a spy family reference

[hallow hazel]

Nah her name has D in it

[raven zealot]

We have family with d at home

[hallow hazel]

As we all know anyone with a D in their name is a one piece reference

[raven zealot]

D||eez nuts|| is the only d I know

[pale fulcrum]

[hallow hazel]

I'm sure it is buddy

Don't worry we support you

[drowsy herald]

Low values.

Weak.

Meh, just another between Volume and Liter CDR tier.

[buoyant blaze]

[drowsy herald]

Still 20-25% expected damage boost.

At max investments.

Maybe to 30%.

Only on RH/Alice

Maxwell does not benefit from Wipe Out.

Neither is SW.

Because they need to damage before getting the buffs.

Yall are dumb.

@lament spindle doesnt work on SW and Maxwell

[buoyant blaze]

Tia D Naga RH Alice

[lament spindle]

Hmm?

Wdym?

[drowsy herald]

Burst buff only takes effect after Nikke shoots.

Oh wait

[lament spindle]

Where is SW mentioned

[drowsy herald]

Its B1

I guess it works but

Dont fucking auto

If u use Maxwell

You need to shoot parts once

Then shoot body once

Then full burst

[lament spindle]

Perhaps

[raven zealot]

theroetically the previous one may carry over into next burst

unless ur taking 10s to burst again

in which case, gl

[drowsy herald]

I mean yeah

But if j forget

Gg

Idk RH Maxwell seems best

[slender breach]

Core is body part or part part?

[finite mural]

volume relegated back to mast

?

[slender breach]

Volume p5

[raven zealot]

Core when it's the same hotbox as body is body

I recall a patch messing with core that's not attached but idk

It was def part dmg at one point

[drowsy herald]

No

[raven zealot]

But I haven't tested since

[drowsy herald]

Volume might be dead

[slender breach]

I mean Vs blacksmith you hit the part and the core at the same time

[drowsy herald]

Liter D are the main 2 buffers

[slender breach]

[raven zealot]

On the gun it's part+core

[drowsy herald]

If Doro Elegg/Poli is used

[raven zealot]

But on the body it's body hit with core multiplier

[drowsy herald]

Then Volume Marciana is used

If Doro Marci is used

Then at most its Volume Helm

[ripe grove]

Pretty sure D.Wife is a clear gain for RH+any over Volume, so what’s the issue

[slender breach]

Volume novel sw

[drowsy herald]

Volume Mast 2B Guillotine will probably see the light of day again

[finite mural]

like i said

[raven zealot]

What if it's volume novel helm with no burst mod(not for this ur since it's fire weak)

[finite mural]

though if its a sw viable boss

[raven zealot]

[drowsy herald]

Volume Mast 2B Scar Guillotine

[finite mural]

gonna be good

[drowsy herald]

Nvm

Nope

[ripe grove]

What day is Solo Raid Challenge available?

[drowsy herald]

Might be XLud

Yeah

[finite mural]

can have a sw team a tove team and then the standard base 3cdr team

[drowsy herald]

Volume Mast 2B XLud Guillo

Last team will be A2

[buoyant blaze]

sunday or monday

[ripe grove]

RIP

[drowsy herald]

Liter Blanc Noir SBS Alice
D Tiga RH Maxwell
Doro Biscu SAnis Priv Elegg/Poli
Volume Mast 2B XLud Guillo
SMary Dolla A2 Scarlet Modernia

Kdk

If u want SW

Prepare to sacrifice one team

[buoyant blaze]

2B AND A2 mentioned

[finite mural]

elysion tower

may no longer be impossible

[lament spindle]

It's still impossible

[drowsy herald]

It is impossible

D wont solve anything

[finite mural]

[drowsy herald]

Elysion has no burst gen

[lament spindle]

D doesn't provide enough substance or DPS support

[drowsy herald]

[raven zealot]

time to spam vesti

[lament spindle]

You need Tia Naga or smthng to save it

[finite mural]

quiry / helm burst gen

[buoyant blaze]

bad, skip

[lament spindle]

We have D alter

Now give us K

[finite mural]

we got burst gen

we jsut gotta alter between helm and d

[drowsy herald]

I just reset A2

[finite mural]

[drowsy herald]

And I will upgrade her again

[raven zealot]

if u spam d

[drowsy herald]

I should have reset Miranda

[raven zealot]

u lose like her entire kit

[drowsy herald]

I expected the next raid to be Fire weak

Yet Im stupid

[finite mural]

some stages just need the burst gen though

[drowsy herald]

[lament spindle]

There's this thing called cdr

And offensive buffs too

[finite mural]

you dont need cdr

[drowsy herald]

FUCK YALL LA

[finite mural]

if you just delay your burst

[raven zealot]

then how did d solve anything

[finite mural]

[raven zealot]

if u dont need cdr

[drowsy herald]

I RESET WRONG UNIT

[raven zealot]

[lament spindle]

Just run Poli then

[finite mural]

by holding the weeakest enemy before the boss spawns

i would if i had the energy to survive

[lament spindle]

What if it's a boss fight

[finite mural]

then i wouldn't spam

[lament spindle]

But you wouldn't win either

[finite mural]

except w/ helm of course

helm and quiry

well it would just be helm

[raven zealot]

just go all in, d mast guillo maid priv + vesti spam

[finite mural]

cause privaty mprivaty

[raven zealot]

healing is for squares

[lament spindle]

I'm seriously thinking

Vesti's time is here now

[finite mural]

elysion units so trash

they need all the healing

[lament spindle]

D Shelm vesti mPriv guillo

[finite mural]

i mean every other manu has healing excpet pilgrims

[lament spindle]

Rapunzel is dead

[finite mural]

and pilgrims just got power so they dont need rapunzel most of the time

i mean only time i need rapunzel on pilgrim tower is like nihilster

[raven zealot]

the only thing healing does is lower my guillo's dps

[lament spindle]

Rapunzel is like
THE best healer in the game

[finite mural]

and maybe the gas units

[slender breach]

still usable in pvp

[pastel oar]

Bing

[finite mural]

dont need healing on pilgrim tower I NEED DEEPS

[raven zealot]

duck duck go

[lament spindle]

When was the last time they did this

on a non pilgrim

Naga I guess

[finite mural]

did what a meta cdr?

never?

[lament spindle]

Meta + hot + wishlistable

Last was naga

[buoyant blaze]

too much coom

[finite mural]

we get a meta hottie every 3 months or so apparently

[lament spindle]

Maybe this year is elysion year

[finite mural]

dont curse it

[lament spindle]

Maid priv + DWife

That's basically liter + harran right guys?

[finite mural]

so next year we will get hte final b1 cdr unit?

1 b1 cdr a year

[lament spindle]

We get a B2 cdr unit

This year

[finite mural]

summer sugar

[lament spindle]

I'm feeling a 40s B2 cdr

Like sakura

[finite mural]

b2 sakura

would d buff apply to sw during her burst? just curious

[lament spindle]

We find out tomorrow but for now it's assumed no

[finite mural]

[lament spindle]

Unless they do some Elegg level fuckery where

[finite mural]

fair enough

[lament spindle]

It applied to Dorothy

[finite mural]

it applying to sw and characterts like sw would probably be a little too future proof

so i can see it not working

[raven zealot]

priv once we get the exodia sg comp

[finite mural]

time to prep my l gear to ol for d

[ripe grove]

I wonder which is more damage if we ignore CDR and only focused on buffing 1 carry’s dmg output - Miranda or D.Wife

[finite mural]

would honestly probalby depend on the boss right

[lament spindle]

If Miranda is buffing guillo, I think it's pretty clear which team should win

No heal guillo

Cuz Ely tower is pretty trash, guillo is the only real DPS

[ripe grove]

It’s going to come down to

Miranda, Marciana, Guillotine, Maid Privaty, S.Helm

Versus

D.Wife, Marcianna, Guillotine, Maid Privaty, and ???

The ??? Is a problem. Could be Vesti for now.

I guess Elysion Tower is going back to sleep

[buoyant blaze]

just had a stroke from those teams until i've read ely tower

[ripe grove]

Need a new B3 preferably with piercing

[buoyant blaze]

[buoyant blaze]

go email shiftup

[finite mural]

elysion tower pain tower

dont forget about diesel buffs

[lament spindle]

I don't think Marciana is HER

[ripe grove]

When are the buffs happening?

[lament spindle]

I'd rather use helm for burst gen + diesel/shelm

[finite mural]

soon ™️

[ripe grove]

It’s because everybody who don’t use her will be gated for more power idling at Elysion 400F fighting Ultra

[lament spindle]

I hope the buff the fuck out of diesel
Cuz she's locked on sync on my account

[finite mural]

imagine being at elysion 400f

[ripe grove]

Need some kind for comp change to get thru that nightmare

With new Nikkes

[lament spindle]

Isn't helm enough heals?

[lament spindle]

DWife doesn't change anything

At best she replaces Miranda???
Fuck did Miranda even bring to elysion tower. Nothing

[ripe grove]

Apparently not, cover loss was the problem. But I didn’t run a maxed out Helm. So maybe that could work

[finite mural]

if we get another l dps, maybe k

then more likely to drop helm on l tower

[lament spindle]

Helm doesn't scale that amazingly

Think it wouldn't matter

Guess Marciana was important there

I will remember this 2 years from now when I start doing tower

[ripe grove]

Basically timing was the headache, causing cover loss or deaths

Because Helm’s heal isn’t active every full burst

[stiff orbit]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1043480327135432785.webp?size=48&quality=lossless&name=Clueless~1

[ripe grove]

I could’ve tried Helm + Quiry to fix that but I figured I’d have a different kind of problem there

[lament spindle]

I'm overall talking about campaign stages tho

The max limit for Elysion tower right now was 10-12% CP deficit. Which is just a joke lol

I don't think DWife puts a dent in that

[native patrol]

do people care about campaign stages when most people just bruteforce that with enough CP

[lament spindle]

People who want their name on the leaderboards do

DWife B2 b3 b3 flex 💯

Team 3 always doro

Team 4 is volume

Team 5 is sakura or dolla or tove

[native patrol]

think most people are waiting for solo raid to drop before actually trying out teams

[lament spindle]

Volume has dropped out of top 3

[finite mural]

volume dropped then next patch crit buff

[buoyant blaze]

[ripe grove]

I’ve been meaning to eventually upload the Elysion Tower 400F clear, you can judge for yourself then. It probably won’t matter ultimately because as you said, in 2 years. By then you’ll probably have 5 self-healing Elysion Nikkes with CDR and 5,000% atk each on full burst

[lament spindle]

For Elysion tower???

Idk bro

[ripe grove]

Can happen when they replace Ingrid

[lament spindle]

Best they can give is Nikke who nukes 10k% then fucking dies

After the nuke

Good one time damage nuke to focus on stage boss

[finite mural]

in 5 years we get ingrid as an nikke

and she broken

[buoyant blaze]

5 years EoS

[finite mural]

best time to save nikke

when the game is over

[ripe grove]

I started uploading, will flex here with a link soon

[finite mural]

[ripe grove]

@lament spindle Behold the almighty 0 hp Guillotine on Elysion Tower 400F https://youtu.be/K5Or0D-I0n8?si=qvwRKxlomO9ygaoD

Idk if they finished processing higher quality, just wait if it looks super bad

[finite mural]

how long did it take to grind this out

[ripe grove]

A while I guess. I had to try several comps, and I started trying like 10 synchro levels ago before concluding it was impossible

Then tried again once it was higher

[finite mural]

jfc

[ripe grove]

On the plus side it’s not a curb stomp fight

So you can probably start making comp plans after seeing it To more easily breeze through in 2 years

My stuff isn’t ideal either, you can see how relatively trash it is at the end of video when I show everything including skills and OL effects

[finite mural]

by time i get there we will have the elysion alice

[lament spindle]

This looks rough

I am seriously surprised by how much DPS maidPriv did

[ripe grove]

To stay on topic

[stiff orbit]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/716600764822323252.webp?size=48&quality=lossless&name=MonkaChrist

[ripe grove]

Would D.Wife even help clear it easier without needing more synchro levels?

I say probably not since this battle, Miranda is presumably buffing Guillotine every burst

[finite mural]

in theory if you have helm with peirce

that might be viable?

but she doesn't want ammo so it woudl have to be a different unit

[ripe grove]

Who doesn’t want ammo?

[finite mural]

helm has a last bullet mechanic

[raven zealot]

How do u get helm with pierce

[finite mural]

so i think she specifically doesn't want ammo rolls iirc

[ripe grove]

But we aren’t giving Helm more ammo?

Oh that

[finite mural]

would need some kind of pierce sniper for l tower

then d probably just better entirely

[lament spindle]

🏴‍☠️ 🪙

Idk if you understood but I'm trying to say treasure

[raven zealot]

Ah

[lament spindle]

I need to join a pirate fanhub server now for treasure emojis

[slender breach]

[dapper sail]

If D alt teamed up with duo JKs. Do you think the core damage buff is too overkill?

[wet field]

D vs Helm twerking contest covered in oil who wins

[bronze echo]

Muh dick would

[covert coral]

theres never overkill only sanic speed kills

[azure flax]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-mad-tired-angry-pissed-gif-9755228

[finite mural]

soon ™️

[split sinew]

To mileage or not to mileage, that is the question

[azure flax]

2% = roll

just get luck on first 2 multis

[tiny falcon]

Wishlist gang

[split sinew]

[ocean ocean]

yes

[astral plinth]

modifier: 69.04%
6 ammo
burst gen is same as Maxwell

[azure flax]

[lament spindle]

@tulip bay

[split sinew]

[astral plinth]

eww piss color

[split sinew]

[astral plinth]

[surreal fox]

D, meet Elysion tower... you'll be replacing Miranda for the forseeable future. Helm! Get your fat ass in here we going to floor 220!

[grizzled rock]

i just got back from work @lament spindle whats the updates

scaling on s2?

[steel elm]

Yo if we can get 24 full charged shots in between full bursts we can get constant bursts of 40s bursts

Would she be able to get 24 full charges with overload and adjudent/resilience or bastion?

[astral plinth]

she needs 10.65s to shoot 8 ammo

24 full charged I assume 0 reload, that's freaking 30s

[steel elm]

Aw alright

What if we have 2 cdrs in the team

Maybe liter or someone

[astral plinth]

doable

I guess

[steel elm]

I’d imagine it’d have too much specific team but I’d be happy if something that be cooked up with that

[astral plinth]

let's say, 20% charge speed = 0.2s shave off per shot

[steel elm]

Imagine a double red hood or Alice burst

[astral plinth]

8 shot = 1.6s, so you are at 9s

nah, make it triple CDR

[steel elm]

Dang

So you’d get 14s off with D and 5 seconds with 2 cdr

Yea feels like too much tbh

Probably not worth getting that much for a constant 40s

[astral plinth]

and remember, you only have 15s every rotation (10s full burst + 5s fill the bar)

can't spare like 19 20s

[steel elm]

Yea I’ll lab D if something can be done to squeeze more full charges

Probably just good as a normal cdr nothing crazy like enabling 40s

[astral plinth]

may be a 1000/25 can do

imagine manual playing D to cut off the useless delay

[steel elm]

Would Alice and Maxwell help D getting some more shots in?

It wouldn’t be too much of a change in the team bc D would probably be in an Alice or somewhere with Maxwell

[astral plinth]

you don't want D to have those buffs

[steel elm]

Yea true

[astral plinth]

bricked your other DPS

[steel elm]

She probably wouldn’t even have the atk to get the buff tbh

Alice and Maxwell would take it

Well she’d probably still be a good support for Alice/redhood

Does redhoods burst count as a sniper? Bc it changes her weapon

[astral plinth]

iirc, your main weapon is also your burst weapon

[steel elm]

Alright

[astral plinth]

so Snow White uses AR bonus range

[steel elm]

Oooh never knew that

[astral plinth]

Moran also uses AR bonus range although skill is defined as SMG

[grizzled rock]

@astral plinth do u know the scaling on s2

do we need lv 7

[raven zealot]

u need more than 1 does that count

[iron haven]

Okay I need to know, does D make Nihilister more usable?

[raven zealot]

Yes but no

Yes she buffs nihil

No to nihil suddenly being op

[iron haven]

[astral plinth]

lv 7 value

[astral plinth]

I was correct

D should give Alice and Red Hood 8% more than Liter if we assume best situation where her S1 increases all instances of pierce dmg

S1 > S2 > Burst in term of buffing btw

and outside of pierce characters, D is pretty much a normal CDR with moderate buffs from S2 and Burst => don't use her outside pierce team

[grizzled rock]

wats this mean

does it mean value is not maxed at lv 7

cdr

[astral plinth]

lv 7, 6.04s cdr

lv 10: 7s

[grizzled rock]

[astral plinth]

u can push her to 10 like your Sakura

but 4s cd is also fine

[grizzled rock]

i only have enuf skill mats for 10 10 10 , 7 7 7, 7 7 7

so i can only choose 2 skill lv 10s

was gonna do 10 10 10 2b

[astral plinth]

do A2

da real MVP

[grizzled rock]

is there going to be enough uptime on parts though

[astral plinth]

defo

not

[flint moth]

Leaving at lv 1 is enough cdr?

[astral plinth]

that's 6s cd

pretty long I'd say

only shit ass team like SG against far unit or full MG + AR take that long

[flint moth]

Oh

[astral plinth]

a lv 4 is doable (5s)

most teams fill burst during that time against boss

[flint moth]

So lv 7 is what we want?

[astral plinth]

lv 7 is more than welcome (4s cdr)

require fast tap

[flint moth]

Any need to push lv 10 for that extra second?

[astral plinth]

lv 10 is M-area

like using Tia and shooting a bunch of rock with "very high" speed

[flint moth]

M-area?

[astral plinth]

I can't say that word

M-word

[flint moth]

Oh

Ok

[astral plinth]

so for full auto, you can stay at 4

[flint moth]

Lv 7 isn’t that bad on mats I guess

[astral plinth]

high manual is 7 and 10 is something else

[flint moth]

Ok. I’ll try lv 4 then

[astral plinth]

her S1 should give the best buff power

while her burst is meh

can just stay 4 if you are low on book

[flint moth]

So we looking at 4/4/4 is fine?

[astral plinth]

7 max, because the gain is horrible

4/4/4 => 7/7/7

[flint moth]

Ok

[astral plinth]

I don't find any reason to push more than this, unless you go min maxing last 1s => 7/10/7

[flint moth]

I don’t have the books for 7/7/7

[astral plinth]

4/7/4 if you want comfort run

[flint moth]

Too many other things need my books

[astral plinth]

or just accept a slight CDR

[flint moth]

Ok 4/7/4 might be doable with the event shop books

Because log in is stingy this time

But first, I hope I can get her. I wasn’t planning to go that deep into the stash

[astral plinth]

10/10/10 to be better Liter to Alice and Red only

7/7/7 is highly recommend for me

4/7/4 is eco saving

or 7/7/4

her burst does pretty shit

[slender breach]

[astral plinth]

fire indeed

[slender breach]

She is

[drowsy herald]

Its RH Max anyways

[grizzled rock]

[tulip bay]

k ty

[lofty urchin]

what's a base level of her skills we need to have in order for her to be efficient in Raids or other pve content?

is it like all 10s?

is she a 7 or a 10 girl 😄

[grizzled rock]

777 prob

but she prob gona go ham at 10 10 10 lol

at least this next SR

[ocean ocean]

this next huh

[astral plinth]

https://nikke.win/en/characters/d-killer-wife/1

scaling per lv is up

[ripe grove]

So D.Wife needs lvl10 to get 7s CDR?

RIP

[astral plinth]

[buoyant blaze]

OH HELL NAH

[astral plinth]

all under expect

[grizzled rock]

10 10 10 on release no balls

[ripe grove]

Get wife, lose everything

Your gems, your skill mats

Your luck

Your rocks can’t escape either

[split sinew]

10-10-10

[muted cradle]

So another a must 10-10-10 ?

[astral plinth]

scroll up

[grizzled rock]

ur alice and mod will be doing the most

[astral plinth]

[grizzled rock]

D is good but isnt worth skipping over those two

and prob a few other units

[tranquil dune]

feel like the S1 Pierce dmg doesn't need pierceable shots to benefit from
RH + Alice consistently do better damage in D Tiga than Liter Tiga

[astral plinth]

as long as it has "pierce" text

it's increased, I guess

[tranquil dune]

https://tenor.com/view/sheesh-sheesh-meme-sheesh-sheesh-meme-nathan-doan-sheesh-emoji-gif-25727922

[terse walrus]

So is she good replacement for liter if I use redhood?

Tiga rh mod

[astral plinth]

• The Burst buff doesn't refresh, only proc once during burst.

[marble dagger]

So how good is new D?

[astral plinth]

buff is distributed per ally

so if RL hits 2 (body + part), RL gains both effect

SR hits 1 (Body) then SR only gains core dmg

I thought we communist now

[lost loom]

SRs also gain both buffs during D burst

at least when I tested with alice and RH

probably pierce things

[astral plinth]

pierce

only when you can pierce boss with part + body together

which is birb

[fathom blaze]

Reload cube on her? or bastion?

[heavy elbow]

i used burst gen

[lost loom]

mm ok tested a bit more, the respective buffs just apply whenever you fulfil the condition during wipeout

[astral plinth]

yep

but only proc once

[lost loom]

pretty nice

[astral plinth]

so it doesn't refresh

[lost loom]

yeah duration doesnt refresh which is a bummer

but still really good

[astral plinth]

you can uhmm

shoot the other condition last second

[lost loom]

true

[simple flower]

So the additional info

Was it correct?

[fathom blaze]

Does MLB worth or skip?

[astral plinth]

[fathom blaze]

oh sorry, i saw him write MLB, hence i asked

[lost loom]

only if you really want the lobby

[marble dagger]

Is MLB Max Limit Break like FGO lol?

[snow copper]

How much skill investment she needs? I make her s2 at 7, it lower the cd at 6.04 sec

[simple flower]

No
It's closer to AL where you pull ship copies to buff em

[fathom blaze]

damn, i wasted 70 rolls...

ShiftUp, stop manipulate rate up please

[astral plinth]

the pierce dmg doesn't apply on main target

[faint sentinel]

mm bastion?

[grizzled rock]

Im shaking

[rancid trail]

bruh ngl being able to just run 1 burst 3 is kinda cool

RH was just 7 seconds away from bursting permenantly with just D alone as the CDR

[proven pebble]

soo what skill lvl requiment for D wife?

[rancid trail]

10 everything

[faint sentinel]

hmm 10 rocks 2x 69% ammo, 1x 12% attack, 1x 4% charge spd

the helm just wont roll anything beyond def/hit rate

feq

[slender breach]

full auto vs wind, liter: 10/6/10, Dwife 4/7/4

[crystal shuttle]

Liter: 1b5
Volume: 1b34
D: 1b39
Full auto
Liter 10 6 10, Volume 144
D skill 474, the union boss has no parts (no s1 and core dmg buff)

[astral plinth]

the pierce dmg up doesn't seem to work

at all

ah

full burst

silly me

[faint sentinel]

finally done

2x spd 3x ammo

[astral plinth]

text has pierce = dmg up for sure

now let me see where it belongs to, part dmg, debuff dmg or new multiplier

[drowsy herald]

Why u need speed

[astral plinth]

FB core hit = 888953 ~ 355.581 normal hit
normal core hit = 511828 ~ 255.914 normal hit
only pierce dmg up + FB = 689482 ~ 275.793 normal hit

[rancid trail]

curious how would yall rank her in tierlist for burst 1

minimum SS at least ?

[astral plinth]

I would love a SS, then demote Doro to SS, then demote Volume to S

so Liter Tia SSS
Doro D SS
Volume and whatever: S or below

[faint sentinel]

7/7/7 D marginally better (or probably more closer to the same if i did more runs) than Liter with 9/9/9

yea def worth a roll if u can slot liter elsewhere at least for sniper setups

[astral plinth]

the new pierce dmg up buff

belongs to Weakpoint buff

which is Tia, Dorothy, D herself

[rancid trail]

welp i dint got Summer Helm so id still be using Volume for CDR

[astral plinth]

you should

[rancid trail]

finally i got no more scuff CDR teams

[astral plinth]

Volume Novel on Snow

is screaming for PAIN

[simple flower]

Fellas

[fathom blaze]

Forget about meta, this is the reason to pull her.

[slender breach]

Ugh at Lvl 7 S2 sometimes I miss 0.5 or 0.8 seconds to burst

[rancid trail]

i just 7/10/7 immediately

cause i know damn well she will have that 0.5s issue

[fathom blaze]

So burst and s2 priority

[astral plinth]

can you just

accept it

[slender breach]

[astral plinth]

OMG 0.8s so big

[fathom blaze]

just max s2

[slender breach]

That she said

[fathom blaze]

[slender breach]

[crystal island]

bros ingrid did it

she finally made a meta nikke

[hallow hazel]

Ingrid finally cooked

[rancid trail]

now waiting for Elysion Duo

honestly might happen on the event before half anni lol

[slender breach]

Ingrid is following Mustang advices

[hallow hazel]

I'm still expecting a b2 Pilgrim for half anni

[slender breach]

Crown chime

Better than gals

[rancid trail]

100% they gotta be the pilgrim duos

[slender breach]

And where elysion duo?

[rancid trail]

ahem

[hallow hazel]

It took Ingrid a year to cook, expect at least another year

[rancid trail]

watch its K and D

but D would get treasure update with her kit slightly changes

[slender breach]

Imagine K alt first than normal K

[rancid trail]

oh talking about base D

[hallow hazel]

I'm hoping treasures just don't go on everyone

[rancid trail]

definately prioritize underused characters

[astral plinth]

all the mechanic so far

• S1: Pierce dmg applies to all instances of dmg, as long as it has pierce text.
• S1: The buff is treated as weakpoint bonus dmg, stack additively with Tia for example
• Burst: Buff is distributed separately. If ally hits more than 1 condition, they will gain 2 buffs instead.
• Burst: Buff is not refreshed. So 10s is 10s

[hallow hazel]

Hmm

Could you use Dolla in a Sr comp with D for even more CD

[pale fulcrum]

does S1 work with SW?

[astral plinth]

[hallow hazel]

Dont think so

[astral plinth]

I may need to test directly

in a bit, cuz I'm clearing events

[crystal island]

uuuuh her burst is working with normal core hits right?

[astral plinth]

work

[crystal island]

my god her cdr is so damn smooth at lvl 10

11/10 worth the ticks

[astral plinth]

yep

tested on Modernia

but remember, who works, who earns

[slender breach]

Alice rh

And...

[pale fulcrum]

mw

[hallow hazel]

Would it be possible to burst just about every rotation with RH using D 🤔

[tawdry bluff]

Is okay to put her s2 to lvl 7 ? I dont have much resources

[astral plinth]

without D: 20061656

with D: 2066498

[tawdry bluff]

Should i replace liter for d in campaign or Liter is still better in campaign

Im using schoolgirl

[astral plinth]

seems to applied on Snow burst

[pale fulcrum]

noway

sw buff is real

[wooden zealot]

Yeah you'll just have 0.5 to 0.8 delay on burst rotation

[tranquil dune]

you mean S1?

[astral plinth]

yeah

[tranquil dune]

https://tenor.com/view/pikachu-meme-gif-7304266135698620611

[wooden zealot]

Can I finally one shot trainz

[flint moth]

So only the targets that get hit after piercing the main target get buffed damage?

[astral plinth]

all instances

read my final consensus

[flint moth]

Ok ty

[dusk forge]

🧎it applies to SW burst

Maxwell SW back on the table

[astral plinth]

10% of 10 is still smaller than 1% of 1000 though

Maxwell DPS is just sad compared to other hard carry currently

[dusk forge]

anything to be free from Yuhla SW gameplay

[astral plinth]

[lament spindle]

That's The pierce damage buff? For SW?

Just confirming

[astral plinth]

yeah

[buoyant blaze]

ayo snake

[astral plinth]

1.367s 0% charge speed
1.283s 13.45% charge speed
0.084s ~ 13.45% cs

[livid cave]

so tldr is if the attack has "pierce" property it gets buffed ?

like alice gets full uptime due to s2

[astral plinth]

yep

[crystal island]

You don't need to actually pierce for it to work?

[pale fulcrum]

yeah

[crystal island]

My word

[lament spindle]

Yeah D is insanely well placed for a must pull nikke

[crystal island]

Isn't even limited

[astral plinth]

as long as you have pierce text

and you are a SR

you will enjoy free 11% dmg up

8% + 3% (lv 1 value)

[dusk forge]

Nihlister time

[celest fossil]

skill lvl rec for D?

7-10-7?

[crystal island]

they gonna hit us with some fucking good shit on half anni if this is a random banner

[lament spindle]

4/7/4 as minimum for now

[slender breach]

And with low investments she works really good

[celest fossil]

i did 7-7-7

[astral plinth]

retest

Snow shouldn't benefit from D

dunno how I gain 10.3% dmg diff

dmg wise is the same too

[sly saffron]

Dirt cheap to invest, lvl 4 is enough

Cause if you compair to other cdr, you already start full looping after 2 stack

[pale fulcrum]

@lament spindle

[lament spindle]

He lied to me

[astral plinth]

[dusk forge]

she is bricked ngl

rip

[pale fulcrum]

does it work with maxwell?

it should but just to make sure

[lament spindle]

@astral plinth

[pale fulcrum]

cause idk if "Entering Full Burst" comes after or before the weapon change

[astral plinth]

well she's a SR before burst

[pale fulcrum]

yeah so it shouldnt matter

[lament spindle]

Hmm wait

Wait

@astral plinth can u do me a favour and hold SW burst until next burst of D

[wooden thunder]

wait youre saying shes Hot AND a cdr???

golden ticket in hand

[rotund sierra]

yeah I ticketed her after failing to pull

I had 640 anyways

if anything comes to worse last 200 will be for broken pilgrim

[lament spindle]

Better get her with the 30 pulls I ha e

I have

[slender breach]

I spent 110 pulls

[rotund sierra]

what skill invest for her , also she needs oc ?

[slender breach]

OC?

[astral plinth]

exactly 8%

maxwell

[lament spindle]

4/7/4
No ol required for now but feel free to OL her cuz she's meta

[pale fulcrum]

thx

[safe wharf]

go for 5/10/7

[wooden thunder]

Over Cocked

[safe wharf]

and ammo and charge speed

[slender breach]

Oh

[slender breach]

The rich one

[lament spindle]

Now place SW on the left of D
And hold SW burst till next burst

[astral plinth]

still doesn't have D buff

I guess game treats Snow as AR no matter what

[rotund sierra]

tbh I have a shitton of gold skill manuals so I could if I wanted lol

[safe wharf]

she deserves it

[pale fulcrum]

make it change

https://discord.com/channels/946719263866101821/1213475186616303626

[crystal island]

mildly related but this event's music kicks ass

[rotund sierra]

erm..

ok game ?

[buoyant blaze]

[rotund sierra]

XD

[safe wharf]

hang him

[rotund sierra]

atk rolls good for her too since she uses caster atk or nah ?

[safe wharf]

roll till you get atk ele ammo together

[rotund sierra]

??¿

what the heck

is happening ?

why I dont get this on my dps snipers

???

game ?

[buoyant blaze]

nah

@lament spindle

mute, ban and twist his balls