[Elegg] New Unit Megathread

[north magnet]

I shudnt have washed my elemental

[zenith moon]

so she broken or she broken

[tranquil pike]

70 pulls, got 2 Privaty...

Core + 6 bruh...

[primal hound]

lmao 170 pulls before I got her

lost 7 SSR coin toss along the way

[deep cairn]

Nice ass and usable

Would roll again

[quartz jackal]

Interesting

[deep cairn]

Looks multiplicative

[ornate wing]

So how is she? Worth 200 millage?

[shut sable]

remember

pull Elegg

she's deadly for your D

[quartz jackal]

[ornate wing]

I want to... But my 9k gems give me only Soda

[river silo]

godegg

[acoustic mica]

She can buff doro, so Teamed with Summer Anis confirmed?

[plucky topaz]

she can be a great candidate in dororo sanis priv team as far as you don't need heal

[cold ermine]

Good bye D

No more D on Sim Room rush

[zenith moon]

lets gooooo shes at least not trash

[cold ermine]

She's useful on Solo Raid

[quartz jackal]

Ok I pulled her

Now what

[cold ermine]

Wait until Solo Raid

[quartz jackal]

[acoustic mica]

When is the next Solo Raid?

21 march?

[cold ermine]

Next month

Around 7~15th

[ornate wing]

Has anyone tried with Salt/2B?? How much dmg increase???

Was aiming to go like Volume,Elegg,Salt,2B,Flex

[quartz jackal]

ok

[plucky topaz]

https://arca.live/b/nikketgv/99600470?p=1
not confirmed but seems so

egg increases dorororo dmg by 30%

[quartz jackal]

So my Doro's dist dmg without Elegg is around 5.7m

With Elegg, it goes up to 6.9m

[acoustic mica]

Damn, she can even replace Scarlet in Sanis team

[plucky topaz]

yes

the rest would be either scarlet for more dmg or biscuit for heal

[deep cairn]

elegg+sakura is kinda good

the instant free burst helps a lot

[acoustic mica]

for sakura you need one more B1, no?

[river silo]

[acoustic mica]

I wonder if you put biscuit, will she buff Elegg too?

[river silo]

dark cooks

easiest is simply doro biscuit s.anis priv elegg

[acoustic mica]

that team would cook with their electric elemental

[plucky topaz]

so egg is replacing puppy

[acoustic mica]

we need more healer tho

[river silo]

biscuit is a healer

lol

[acoustic mica]

I don't know, my biscuit is not strong enough to heal

I might need to upgrade her skills

[plucky topaz]

biscuit alone was enough to maintain the entire team so far except for CC

[river silo]

biscuit burst gives supports lifesteal

that team has 4 supports

[acoustic mica]

right, elegg is a supporter, thus she also received damage buff from biscuit

[tranquil pike]

90 pulls for Elegg...

[quartz jackal]

So, the Doro team can now be Doro, Elegg, flex. S. Anis and Privaty then?

[tranquil pike]

yup

[river silo]

well that team realistically is good if biscuit is there

biscuit buffs support attack

and there is 4 supporst there

then u have s. anis buffing 3 electric

[quartz jackal]

I dun have Biscuit

only Rosanna

[river silo]

[quartz jackal]

maybe Maiden

if I upgrade her

[river silo]

pull biscuit then

[quartz jackal]

I dun have much electric DPS

[acoustic mica]

https://tenor.com/view/mexican-hankerchief-gif-18479094

[quartz jackal]

She's on my wishlist for over a year now, and she still won't come home

[river silo]

without biscuit that comp is just doro marci s.anis scar priv

[quartz jackal]

meta Nikkes hate me

unless I pull for horny

[quartz jackal]

I dun even have Drunk Scarlet

[river silo]

i just got drunk scar to core 2 30 min ago

[quartz jackal]

No Rapunzel

[river silo]

got her while getting my elegg

[quartz jackal]

No Noah

No Biscuit

[river silo]

🆒

[quartz jackal]

[normal snow]

where to use scar now?

[acoustic mica]

same as always, with the bunnies

[river silo]

reg scar?

has been benched

[normal snow]

we back to scarmo?

[river silo]

for a while

no

[acoustic mica]

you mean white scar?

[river silo]

that was just last SR since it was electric weak

[normal snow]

damn...

[acoustic mica]

she's off carry, just put her anywhere you want

[river silo]

general SR will have her competing team 5

5-6 rn

[normal snow]

elegg sanis
sbs alice
rh mw
mod xlud/scar
sw yulha?

oh and sg cope...

[acoustic mica]

So which of her skills that we need to upgrade? Her S3?

1/7/7?

4/7/7?

[river silo]

prob burst but u dont need to do anyhting rn

[tranquil pike]

Burst and s2 priority

[river silo]

no point

s2 might not be worth much since its low value anyways

[tranquil pike]

the buff is almost always active

[acoustic mica]

S3 to level 10 then? for maximum damage

[river silo]

if you have to ask you have better units to invest in lol

4 4 4 for now for 99% of players

if ur giga whale 4 10 10 prob

s1 might not be too bad actually

i guess depends if u have 60 fps lol

[acoustic mica]

I'm on PC

Maybe I'll go 4/4/7

for now

[tawny sphinx]

7/7/8

[river silo]

a bit tight but

FULL AUTO POGG

how come momo posts and leaves

[lusty pelican]

Free train

[river silo]

@inner zenith how fast u think

tia + rh + elegg + b. scar + alice

kills SII modernia

im betting under 5 seconds

[plucky pendant]

10

[ruby wasp]

how the hell did you manage to die and finish?

[normal snow]

he already leave server,again

[plucky pendant]

oh right, Elegg instant burst, so maybe less than 10s real

[river silo]

question is do i bring my elegg past 4 4 4 to try to get it under that

🤔

[north magnet]

Skill reset where

[river silo]

wat did u brick now

[plucky pendant]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1059468005911830558/1205091304959123476/oi7pusq0v8hc1-ezgif.com-optimize.gif

bricked by overinvesting in SG team

[north magnet]

Priv M

[river silo]

rip

[north magnet]

Drake

Miranda

Not reset

Still in q

[river silo]

decent chance she isnt ran even in the next SR lol

[north magnet]

[normal snow]

why you reset miranda

[river silo]

kisenoob

[lime flume]

how to know that doro burst got buffed?

[normal snow]

6m vs 8m5? raw number? bruh...

[lime flume]

oh nvm

im dumdum

didnt see who is bursting

[dreamy ore]

Is Elegg going to be super strong in campaign or what? Instant burst on short stages and bonus aoe damage seems good.

[normal snow]

no, that not how it work...

she only fill burst gause when boss appear

[ornate wing]

Idgaf anymore she filled my 2B one stack faster. Must pull 200 millage used

[dreamy ore]

Well at least you can burst whenever and not get caught out of burst when the boss drops

Actually if the boss spawns while you're at the end of a burst, do you get the burst back after it ends?

[lusty pelican]

Lvl skills?

In elegg

[ornate wing]

7-7-5 no OL

[lusty pelican]

Thanks

Could 2b Revive?

[north magnet]

Poli dead

Btw Elegg has no dmg if she doesnt burst

Biscuit doesnt work

[plucky pendant]

still beat Doro/Scar team in that Biscu team

it's Scarover

[north magnet]

Biscuit is bad

2B is better

Doro Elegg SAnis 2B Privaty

[plucky pendant]

tell that to mah 2B 1/1/1

[north magnet]

Biscuit is ok if boss has parts

But 2B is just consistent

[plucky pendant]

you test that yet?

[river silo]

@north magnet where tf u testing

shooting range boss?

has no parts

[plucky pendant]

oh wait, no heals

[north magnet]

U know that Biscu doesnt buff Doro, but Elegg does so

Elegg alone gives around 21% ATK buff

For 14s if she bursts

[plucky pendant]

you need to burst gen really fast

for Elegg s2 to catch Doro burst iirc

don't think it's dooable in that team

[north magnet]

Biscuit cant as well

Unless ure talking about 3 part boss

[ornate wing]

She never died. She always has been the greatest Nikke against Windcode Rapture

(idk what I'm saying )

[lusty pelican]

[inner zenith]

@north magnet is it a seperate multiplier? Or is it additive with buffs like attack damage

Someone figure it out

[shut sable]

[inner zenith]

Where do I add it in my calculator

[shut sable]

which buff do you want to check stacking with Elegg buff?

[inner zenith]

Attack damage

[shut sable]

so Tia right?

[spare jetty]

.

[acoustic mica]

Damn, Elegg is a secret off DPS?

[fervent shard]

where are the numbers

[feral wave]

Elegg team setup?

[lusty pelican]

1+1=3

[fervent shard]

go recruit

[inner zenith]

Yes

[quartz jackal]

You too

I already did

[fervent shard]

WHERE DO YOU EVEN COME FROM

[quartz jackal]

In your walls

[fervent shard]

[winged juniper]

Hello boys

What nikkes does boobie gamer synergize with

[open horizon]

wait

she buffs doro

MUST PULL

[lime flume]

so

is Le Egg must pull

[quartz jackal]

Doro

[winged juniper]

Other than her?

[lime flume]

black scarlet

and 2b

i think

[lusty pelican]

Pls revive 2b

[fervent shard]

nuh uh

[lusty pelican]

Fkuposmfy

[jaunty yew]

Must pull? I see support me thinking must pull.

[fervent shard]

@shut sable

is she a support for SBS/2B or a dps alongside sAnis in doro team?

[north magnet]

Doro Elegg SAnis 2B Priv

She is support for Doro too

The fuck u forgot Doto

[fervent shard]

i mentioned doro team

if you wanna count "alongside sAnis in doro team" as forgetting doro that's on you

[polar geode]

Sakura Moran Elegg 2b Guilo

Double god team

[shut sable]

Elegg solo: 14461
Elegg with Tia: 19105
Increased by exactly 32.11% with Tia

and her own buff is verified with Doro too (39.74% increased for Doro burst).

So it will goes like:

Distributed dmg of Elegg x (1 + % Attack Damage) x (1 + % Distributed Dmg dealt ^)

and I include that in the calculation btw

[fervent shard]

what's better value as of now? in doro/sanis team or buffing sbs/2b?

[shut sable]

low invest = buffing 2B

high invest (treat her as MG DPS) = Sanis comp

[fervent shard]

[fresh flame]

Elegg buffs doro burst confirmed?

[shut sable]

yeh

[north magnet]

No

[fresh flame]

Whew

Must pull then

Is doro elegg sbs Alice priv comp a thing? Won’t sbs and Alice have to reload during burst?

[fervent shard]

Elegg > Scarlet then?

[north magnet]

Not if u have enuf max ammo

[fresh flame]

4 lines max ammo required then

I don’t think Alice will have enough ammo. Priv ammo cut is way too much

[lusty pelican]

Now pull

[shut sable]

one is enuf

applied to all

[fresh flame]

So recommendation is one copy for future raid utility?

[fervent shard]

fund me

[lusty pelican]

Take your fundck

[inner zenith]

@shut sable any change I should make to current pin?

Add about Dorothy, that's it right?

[shut sable]

yeah, can add Dorothy

and her S1 dmg can be amplified by Xlud/Tia

[inner zenith]

Wdym by amplified

Oh nvm

I understand

Ehh I'll do it later

[inner zenith]

Depends on ele %

New speedrun category
SBS ele% on modernia SI

[quartz jackal]

i SEE

[inner zenith]

Is mast better than Elegg for 2butt

[quartz jackal]

(ignore the caps lock)

[fresh flame]

Is Elegg dist damage buff multiplicative?

[shut sable]

elaborate it

what's the difference if it was additive?

[fresh flame]

I think your formula implies multiplicative

[shut sable]

like I have 100 distributed dmg, how will it work under your imagination?

[fresh flame]

So for doro, if her burst is 1000%, does it increase to 1400% or 1040% (40% on Elegg skill)

[shut sable]

alright now that's a valid point

I finally understand why people keep asking me additive or multiplicative now

and it's multi

[fresh flame]

lol

Ok. That’s great

Sigh

Guess I’m gonna have to dig into the stash

In doro Elegg sanis biscuit priv comp, who to burst as b2?

[open horizon]

i imagine elegg until you need healing maybe?

[fresh flame]

Biscuit has huge damage buffs for supporter

Which is doro, Elegg, sanis, and biscuit

[shut sable]

Biscuit is your healing

[open horizon]

i mean its a good damage buff its not massive massive tho unless shes maxed out

[fresh flame]

So I’m guessing it’s alternating?

[shut sable]

as long as your Privaty can tank it

[open horizon]

i believe in privaty

i could do last sr with just biscuit healing in that team

[fresh flame]

So burst Elegg until you need healing with biscuit

[open horizon]

so should be ok for 1 privaty to survive

yeah probs

[fervent shard]

you forgot that part

[open horizon]

elegg will provide some attack buff to cover for some u miss from biscuit but i think the rest she adds covers it

[fresh flame]

I didn’t

[open horizon]

how many of u actually have biscuits burst level 10

i certainly dont

[fresh flame]

So I’m conflicted on who to burst in that comp lol

[fervent shard]

well yeah

then add a ?

[fresh flame]

Read further and you’ll see I’m asking questions

[fervent shard]

pretty sure you burst bicsuit > elegg > biscuit etc

[open horizon]

elleg will give u some attack buff, some def down which will count as some more attack buff pretty much and then she buffs doro, so i think overall u get more out of it than you would if u bursted with biscuit

[fresh flame]

Testing needed i guess

[open horizon]

and the good thing is if u do need to burst with biscuit all your team is mostly supporters so u still get attack buff with that healing

[fervent shard]

burst biscuit with sAnis, burst elegg with privaty

[fresh flame]

Someone with built party can opine here. I don’t have sanis so it’s theoretical for me

[open horizon]

i just dont see why burst with biscuit with sanis tbh

for 20% more attack buff?

[fervent shard]

sAnis S2 during burst

[open horizon]

yeah..?

so?

20% more attack buff on it when she will have 55% from herself and 12ish% from elegg along with some more to make up for it with def down on target

[fervent shard]

have you used sAnis?

[open horizon]

yep i have and i dont think u are taking into consideration all factors in this

u are just seeing an attack % number

not the rest

[fresh flame]

[shut sable]

the def down equals roughly 10.4% atk for that supporter team

[open horizon]

biscuit burst level 7 (i refuse to believe any of u have her at 10) : 34% attack buff
elegg level 7: 10% attack buff 30% def down and 33% distributed damage up that will go to dorothy, so overall it will rougly be 18% attack id imagine account for the def and 33% distributed boost for dorothy

if u tell me 16% more attack buff on sanis will be far superior to ellegs boost on dorothy i will definitely raise an eyebrow

it could be the case i just dont think it is

since sanis already getting 55% from herself and 20ish% from privaty i think the rest of the buffs wouldnt cause a massive difference accounting for sanis OL buffs too

[wind topaz]

level 10?

[shut sable]

lv 10

[young fulcrum]

guys, elegg works with dorothy's burst too ?

[fervent shard]

yes

[young fulcrum]

how is that possible

[shut sable]

why don't you test yourself

[young fulcrum]

i've tested already

i just want to know the mechanics behind that

[agile gull]

So is she a must pull?

[shut sable]

let me ask my Chat GPT

I'm not familiar with coding

[stable anchor]

No doro and sanis, auto skip ig

[fervent shard]

no way josé

[young fulcrum]

hahaha

[normal snow]

if im marciless, i should get her and put scar on other team right?

[shut sable]

no, you put Scar back to the kitchen

[young fulcrum]

I believed that dorothy's burst damage was calculated atm it was cast on an enemy.

[shut sable]

yep

they create an exception for Elegg at least

[fervent shard]

probably works because the distributed damage accumulates while the burst is up?

[shut sable]

because Tia doesn't increase it (it scales on ATK)

and as a B1, there's almost no way to increase the dmg

unless you use Yulha, Dolla or Milk (time based ATK buff)

hence I keep repeating myself: Dorothy burst dmg is overrated

sure you can stay lv 4. But lv 10 doesn't give you much assuming 11/12 rotations

[plucky pendant]

https://tenor.com/view/jon-tron-it-works-it-just-works-gif-15286450

[young fulcrum]

yep, scarlet og is retiring

[round bane]

Does maid Priv also work or nah?

[fervent shard]

no. normal privaty for ammo reduction and atk buff

(and reload speed buff)

[quartz jackal]

Pull Elegg

For dem legs

[fervent shard]

pull her for the smug

[shut sable]

[quartz jackal]

Pull her for the insane JPS output

[round bane]

Yellow Uzaki-chan

[lime flume]

i have

[open horizon]

[wind topaz]

so for tomorrow's UR I'm planning on running doro sin ass guillotine priv
should I replace that with doro elegg biscuit ass priv?

considering elegg is still unbuilt and don't have mats for 7/7/7

[plucky pendant]

if Elegg has OL, every bosses have core hits no?

Scarlet can sit in bunnies if yours have a lot of elem against Elec weak bosses

[wind topaz]

hmm, I forgot if halo has aoe attack

that could kill guillo

[open horizon]

I think elegg would work fine at 4/4/7 personally but i havent done any tests yet

If u can achieve that instead of all 7

In all honesty idk what sin does cause i dint have her so i havent looked into her idk if its worth replacing or not

[wind topaz]

sin is taunt on last bullet

and has lifesteal

so has some synergy with priv and ass

so she can protect guillo if boss has no aoe attacks

[median acorn]

Sin's S1 copies HP and taunts on last bullet, S2 speeds up burst gen and lifesteals/buffs HP potency & DEF, and burst increases damage taken on enemies (requires 4 or more, her biggest downfall) and deals baby damage to target AoE

Elegg makes train super comfy

[open horizon]

Sounds like one of your teams would focus more of guilo and the other more on sanis so maybe best way to decide is if your anis or guilo are stronger? Maybe boss will depend too

[wind topaz]

yea I'm hitting halo so there's core hit

[open horizon]

I dont think u necessarily need both elegg and biscuit in there h could replace biscuit with another dps possibly if the boss doesnt do enough damage to kill

[median acorn]

Very comfy train

[wind topaz]

damn son, 4 MG squad

[median acorn]

Need more daka but no CDR MG Nikke yet

[fervent shard]

not clearing 15s with RH smh

[fresh flame]

Everyone died but you still won?

[fervent shard]

oh, yeah, had that happen too once

[fresh flame]

Too close for comfort on a real run lmao

I prob would’ve reset at the ram part

[wind topaz]

it's ok momo doesn't need the full clear loot

can just 🐳 it

[fresh flame]

Haha. I mean, it’s still impressive

I haven’t seen momo talk in so long that i thought he quit

[wind topaz]

he joins the server, chat once and then leaves again

[fervent shard]

[wind topaz]

ok not even close. tested on shooting range 3 min water boss

890m vs 996m

guillo wins in this case

need c7 elegg and lots of ele rolls

[fervent shard]

[wind topaz]

that guillotine daka is real

[shut sable]

Guillo on shooting range

basically zombie

[wind topaz]

yeah but there's sin to protect her all the time, I saw Halo vids on YT and it doesn't seem to have aoe or attacks that ignore taunt

tried with mast, even worse

that elegg insta burst at the start = +1 more burst

[fervent shard]

now test scarlet

[shut sable]

also Elegg on Shooting range

= no def shred

[wind topaz]

well there's no other way I can test elegg for tomorrow's raid

or comps

[shut sable]

for a MG to properly run, you may want 1 or 2 ammo lines

even with reload comp

[wind topaz]

not enough mats

tove and mpriv left me dry

[shut sable]

https://tenor.com/view/spi-tobe-bully-maguire-i-missed-the-part-probl-gif-23922704

[wind topaz]

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-star-spongebob-patrick-squidward-snowball-gif-25346098

[wind topaz]

scar and sin?

assuming scar has no healer

nah I think guillo will wreck scar

[shut sable]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/914248336737984592/1091064168880287794/So_Sicktry.gif

[wind topaz]

with 100% corehit

[shut sable]

yep

even without core, as long as she can stay zombie

she beats Scar

[wind topaz]

also there's this

[plucky pendant]

my Guillo 20% ATK 0% Elem also smoked Scarlet 50% Elem in the shooting range

it's scarover

[lusty pelican]

My doro has 15% charge speed

[flat olive]

80% anmo

[inner zenith]

Doro marciana scarlet SAnis priv

Check comparison

[wind topaz]

man, have you seen this pic?

zombie guillo at c7 vs punk ass scar at lb0

[plucky pendant]

[shut sable]

being MG

pretty much cheat

[plucky pendant]

if Halo no aoe

[inner zenith]

Yeah but
I don't give a fuck about guillotine

I just wanna compare elegg

[plucky pendant]

you could run Elegg as b2 and just dodge projectiles with Guillo when you hit Halo?

[inner zenith]

No I don't wanna do UR tests

Im trynna do this for solo raid

U don't use sin for solo raid

[shut sable]

hard to test since how deep do you want to go with Elegg

10/10/10?

7/7/7?

4/4/4?

how well is your manual reloading too

[inner zenith]

What's distributed buff value at burst 4 and burst 7 and burst 10

[shut sable]

one reload will hurt Elegg so damn bad

[inner zenith]

Skill investments

4/4/4 -> 7/7/7 -> 7/7/10

[inner zenith]

I think this should be good

[shut sable]

her S1 at 10/10/10 provides around 10% total dmg

pretty urghh to me

[plucky pendant]

i don't think s1 will contribute that much

[shut sable]

considering you have to 10 that S1 and 10 burst

lmao

[inner zenith]

Oh, I was just looking at values

[wind topaz]

what if Halo has hitscan attacks that I can't telegraph because of stupid ass doro flashbang effects

[inner zenith]

Should be fine now I guess

7/7/10

[inner zenith]

Watch a halo video on YouTube man

[plucky pendant]

ye, she has to burst to even benefit from S1 too, esp in that Biscu comp.

[shut sable]

let me convert that defense shred into ATK up

[plucky pendant]

mald

[inner zenith]

Its pretty irrelevant

[plucky pendant]

tho if you're speedrunning, i suppose just stick to whatever comp you find comfy with

[wind topaz]

there isn't any good ones

[inner zenith]

You upgrade burst for that damage taken up

[wind topaz]

yea this, no time to mald, gotta speedrun at top unions

[inner zenith]

You don't need good videos for boss pattern bruh

[shut sable]

which provides to S1

and S1 deals meme dmg only right?

let's say

Doro burst is 10m dmg per rotation

[inner zenith]

@shut sable what OL on her?

[shut sable]

so one run can go 13 rotation = 130m dmg

lv 4 => 10 = 10% diff

[inner zenith]

2 ammo should be enuff with SAnis priv?

[shut sable]

so Doro will lose around 13m dmg

2 ammo lines are very comfy

but you may want to switch to her to manually reload

4 lines = never look

[wind topaz]

yea switch to her at 00:01 burst duration remaining

[inner zenith]

OL lines

2-4 ammo
4 Ele
4 atk
1-2 crit

[shut sable]

she's pretty much 83% power of Guillo

but way more comfortable

because you don't have to run at 1 HP

your sanity is remained

[inner zenith]

That's it then?

This case is solved?

[shut sable]

I think everything is wrapped up

[inner zenith]

Did u figure out the formula for damage taken in Dorothy?

Cuz she isn't affected by tia

[shut sable]

isn't it obviously?

she scales on "ATTACK"

The maximum accumulated damage is 8900.83 % of the caster's final ATK.

[inner zenith]

Why does biscuit's atk buff not increase her burst damage but Elegg's distributed damage affects her burst damage

[supple umbra]

Aight since she is out now
I assume she got tested out

[inner zenith]

Check pins

[shut sable]

because Elegg is exception

[inner zenith]

That's a gay answer

[supple umbra]

Oh so she does buff Dorothy

[shut sable]

my bad

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1209802072824741968/1210212202083000320/image.png?ex=65e9bcf1&is=65d747f1&hm=0a231e74942a25ee2f4fba7c7e5ac8d51b176e6dd81b8b1dae300d4746dcee8c&

[supple umbra]

Neat

[shut sable]

here

I'm not very familiar with coding

[supple umbra]

I use her from time to time so i guess imma pull

[shut sable]

so let me ask Chat GPT

[supple umbra]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1162018148522934312.png?quality=lossless&size=48

[inner zenith]

Lmfao

[supple umbra]

Sorry bro but Chatgpt currently has a mental breakdown

[shut sable]

Doro burst only scales on Attack. That should be the first impression based on wording... at least for me

hence it's very trash

B1 = almost impossible to buff it

except time based buff like Yulha, Dolla, Milk etc...

[supple umbra]

Naruhodo naruhodo

[inner zenith]

Does Elegg update it tho

Or no

[shut sable]

Elegg updates it

the only reliable buffer for Doro

[wind topaz]

now test elegg with sbs and 2b

[inner zenith]

If doro bursted when dolla didn't have atk buff
And Elegg bursted when dolla had atk buff

Does it add dolla atk buff now

[shut sable]

shouldn't

different buffs, different timing

Elegg can't magically force it update again

[inner zenith]

Isn't it just a ×(1+buff amount)?

So at best it's like a blanc burst

[inner zenith]

[shut sable]

to 2B, I'm sure Elegg = Blanc

[inner zenith]

[shut sable]

well I clearly misunderstood the "update" here

[inner zenith]

Hmm regardless I understand

Should be solved then ig

I had to ticket her after 19.1k gems gave me nothing

Have to work with 20 tickets and 400 gold tix now

[spare jetty]

tough luck

took me 5x multi as well

[inner zenith]

I'm gonna skip next banner for sure

I can't be pulling on wishlist nikkes ffs

[shut sable]

just verify

she can't force Yulha attack on Doro after Doro burst

[inner zenith]

So it's not even an update

Its just a small seperate calculation

[shut sable]

it's basically like I did in sheet

"just add an exception"

make my formula looks so nasty

[fresh flame]

I hope they don’t hotfix how elegg’s buff works for buffing doro since that’s probably a big reason for pulling

[wind topaz]

better hope they do as long as they give skill reset books

[frank eagle]

hmm

[wind topaz]

[frank eagle]

mixed signals on Elegg's performance for me

[supple umbra]

Or gems refund

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1127818432046436432.png?quality=lossless&size=48

[frank eagle]

what are early impressions?

[supple umbra]

That's the only reason i pulled her for

Buffing doro

[fresh flame]

You and a lot of ppl probably

[frank eagle]

so basically a Doro battery? That's it?

that's all she is?

[fresh flame]

Shiftup is known for fixing accidental skill interactions after the fact

[wind topaz]

p much

doro's role on raids also kinda got reduced down to cdr bitch

now maybe if you have 4x max atk lines on her

she can deal good damage again

[fresh flame]

She’s a doro battery that fits on a sanis biscuit electric raid team, so she can do decent personal damage as well. That’s the impression I’ve gotten so far

[inner zenith]

Should be updated

[burnt axle]

[sinful wasp]

SBS 3rd activation without and with Elegg

Source:
https://youtu.be/qwhamQQEUR8?si=XAZVoKkI4WG3X85m

[fresh flame]

Multiplicative buff

[open horizon]

nice

could be that u put elegg with liter and alice in sr to save tia naga for another team

[fresh flame]

Does the def down also increase distributed damage taken?

[open horizon]

def down if on single target enemy will kinda act like attack buff

[sinful wasp]

It looks like it because the damage was slightly different than if you you straight up multiplied it

[plucky topaz]

I hope the egg is enough for a single copy?

[fresh flame]

Yeah. It calculated to a little over 41.8% increase, so i think the def down helped a little

[fiery steppe]

@fresh flame did ya pull her?

[fresh flame]

Yeah. 1 copy for raids

[fiery steppe]

how many pulls?

[fresh flame]

25

[fiery steppe]

you do singles?

[fresh flame]

I did 5 singles at the start, then 2 multis after reading this stuff

[sinful wasp]

Her damage and atk buff scales with her atk so more copies is beneficial. The distributed damage buff is fixed. Probably good enough for 1 copy unless you’re very competitive

[tranquil pike]

1 copy is enough for supporter, in case a better supporter come and replace her

[normal snow]

eh, we still dont know her burst work on doro is intended or "bug"?

like doro s1 when she was released was atk buff and jackal burst work with 2b?

[open horizon]

theres like 4 distribute damage characters, im sure they tested doro

at least i hope they would have

[fervent shard]

who's number 4

Doro, SBS, 2B, ?

[open horizon]

idk i just said a random low number cause theres none of them laksjdlasd

[normal snow]

herself?

[open horizon]

looks like i was close tho

[hushed trench]

If you run both D and Elegg do both burst gauge fills proc at the same time?

[versed imp]

I'm a bit confused, does Elegg Burst debuffs the enemy or herself, that def down

[hushed trench]

It affects the enemy

[versed imp]

ty

[spare jetty]

So is it worth it

Should i get it

[umbral sky]

@inner zenith I wrote OL lines like this

4 Atk
4 Ele
4 Ammo/CritRate/CritDmg

Priority:
1-2 Ammo > Ele=Atk > Ammo=CritRate=CritDmg

How's this priority format if we want to suggest prioritizing having at least 1-2 Ammo while not caring if someone wants to go for 4?

[spare jetty]

Anyone

[umbral sky]

If you're doubting yourself, don't get her

[inner zenith]

Must have OL lines:
1-2 ammo

Ideal OL lines:
4 atk
4 ele
2-4 ammo
1-2 crit rate/damage

[spare jetty]

I’m just asking is she worth it…

[inner zenith]

Read pins and decide
Serious in raids = pull otherwise skip

[umbral sky]

I would say she's.. kinda worth having. Not if you're strapped for pull resources, while not having Scarlet: Black Shadow or 2B

[spare jetty]

Alright

Thank you

[umbral sky]

Me like

[lusty pelican]

scuse me sr kri @south stag wanna talk to you

[south stag]

i do?

[lusty pelican]

you are tagging me for his photos

[south stag]

im just not getting better numbers on 2B than Noise+Mast combo

so the numbers looked fake, specially beating Scarlet even if elemental advantage

[lusty pelican]

ask him for his ols

[south stag]

im using crit chance with elemental, isnt a perfect ol

but 2 crit chance, 3 elemental, and 2 damage dont have that much space to improve

and its quite a way till +- 70% extra damage

to beat Black Scarlet with simillar investiment

(and that vs wind)

[lusty pelican]

wait for his answer

[bright iron]

Like I like her on doro sanis and sbs but they can’t live

[fervent shard]

looks like i gotta mileage her if i want her

[lusty pelican]

that 3 in your name

it needs two zero

no wait it needs a 10

[fervent shard]

do we have numbers for Elegg vs Mast for 2B?

[lusty pelican]

pull and test

[normal snow]

[fervent shard]

g!mute 243383954969722880

[lusty pelican]

[river silo]

full auto?

or fast shoot biscuit

[normal snow]

spam biscuit

[river silo]

that boss doesnt even have parts for biscuit splash

joever for scarlet

[normal snow]

scar need better marci

[river silo]

how much max ammo is that elegg

i assume u werent forcing reload at end of every full burst?

comp is prob a bit better if so

[normal snow]

just 1, but enough to keep her not reload

[normal snow]

oh i need to do that

[river silo]

MG reload speed comps u shud b switching to them at like the 9.5 second mark force reload

[normal snow]

so she wont get priv debuff after reload?

[river silo]

no its to prevent machine gun reload + wind up

u shud have resilience on elegg there

then s.anis reload speed + priv reload speed + resil cube means insta reload never wind down

wait actaully cube doesnt matter if u got both s.anis s1 and priv s1 at high enuf levels

prob bastion at that point then

[normal snow]

i need to manual reload. if not she gonna reload before burst ready

[plucky pendant]

i think he mean you reload at 0,5s or less

you will fast reload, but reload the whole mag

not half way like that, it has a bit to do with timing

where she fast reload right before Priv debuff ends
so she reload the whole thing, kinda like that

tho it seem it doesn't matter for you anw
you still have enough ammo to re-enter full burst without reloading

[normal snow]

what he said after that kinda confuse me

[inner zenith]

He's telling you to use resilience instead of bastion cube so that Elegg has 110% reload speed

[normal snow]

i still has 2 manu left, just need to get 1 more ammo line and dont need to care about this problem anymore

[inner zenith]

And then see if you can still reload without a problem

Cuz with bastion cube you lose some wind up (which affects fire rate and hitrate) while with resilience cube you should be able to constantly shoot

[north magnet]

No need

If Priv S1 is maxed no need resilience

Overkill

But no I dont think that team will make it

Elegg SBS is prolly superior

[river silo]

isnt there no animation if its over like 107%

i guess i can test rn waiting for UR

[shut sable]

always have

100% = 22 frames reloading
109% = 11 frames reloading. Fixed, can't be reduced

[north magnet]

The problem is Alice wants reload speed so

Alice being in Priv team helps a lot

And we alr have SAnis - PrivM variant

Which is not that bad

Doro Elegg SBS Alice Privaty

Sakura Moran Leona SAnis PrivM

This will open up Tiga for RH XLud, and also Bun for Mod and idk someone else

Like Maxwell

[north magnet]

Now test Poli

I think the teams will be:

• Vol Bun Scar Mod
• Lit Tiga RH XLud
• Doro Elegg SBS Alice Priv
• Sakura Moran SAnis PrivM Leona
• SW Maxwell shenanigans

Not having Sakura Moran rly cuts u off

[river silo]

[north magnet]

[river silo]

tf u using scarlet still for

kisenoob

so noob

[north magnet]

There arent better units

Austinoob

[river silo]

noobsenix

[north magnet]

Scarlet was used last 2 raids

U noob asshit

[shut sable]

[north magnet]

Scar wont leave till a broken DPS is released

But yeah Elegg most likely go witb SBS and Doro

Elegg buffs around 20% damage for SBS and 30% for Doro

Does Elegg buff doro cap or the eruption?

Why do we have conflicting evidence?

[pine plover]

This guy always think no healer is fine

[vestal olive]

I just played this game for the first time in a while. Is Elegg worth using my golden mileage for? I like her design, and the obvious doom references are pretty cool.

As a unit is she worth?

[shut sable]

nope

she's good, but not must have tier

[vestal olive]

Hmm.

Why's that?

[stable anchor]

Roll if want but save golden mileage for pilgrim or limited

[vestal olive]

I'm a S.Anis main

[stable anchor]

Char will go in standard wishlist not worth golden mileage

[river silo]

u r a

noobsenix

[ornate wing]

4 Ele ol

[ornate wing]

It's not fake

[ornate wing]

Just did an auto run for you and literally got new dmg record lol

have fun listening to that Boom Boom Boooomm!!! for the whole 3 mins

Just in case if you're curious, my 2B does 44m dmg on burst, 19m if not crit

[lusty pelican]

Rng issues

[ornate wing]

Just Crit

[wind topaz]

just crit!!

[plucky topaz]

dem this egg is making dorororo brrrrr

[south stag]

so there's something wrong with mine

even with Egg at 7/7/7 i cant make 2B do decent damage

[ornate wing]

try Novel, she's actually better than Elegg for 2B cuz Elegg only buff distributed dmg (her burst) while Novel buff everything cuz it's increase the dmg by %

My Elegg is 8-8-6 1 OL
while Novel is only 1-1-7 yet she still does a better job

Elegg only buff burst dmg > 44m (100k ish normal attack)

Novel buff enemy received dmg > (52m 150k ish normal atk)

[river silo]

cooked ass comps lol

dont bother with volume since volume and liter are tied to bunnies/tia naga for now

[ornate wing]

Gotta wait for another good b1 cdr to get volume out of that team and be with 2B

[polar geode]

Sakura + morgod

or Noise

[simple nimbus]

I have an eleggtion

[wind topaz]

oh yeah? who are you voting for?

[north magnet]

Guys im tempted not to pull Elegg

I want to pull but I feel like it's a trap

[umbral sky]

Elegg is fun. Elegg is Boom.

I used her in UR against Kraken and it was pretty fun. Maybe I could’ve done better, but my comp was Dorothy, Elegg, S.Anis, Guillotine, Privaty

You get full burst as soon as the fight starts (Thanks Elegg!)

And Elegg’s Electric supporter, so maximum benefits with S.Anis

And the burst buff/debuff she has works fine with Guillotine and Dorothy

[lime flume]

wait for wishlist

[umbral sky]

(DEF down for with Guillotine against single target)

No heals but I had a crazy high synchro, Guillotine did not die to LVL10 Kraken

This comp made me kinda like Elegg, but idk what will happen when I need heals

I’d probably have dropped her for Marciana or looked for Helm/Quiry

Or tried Biscuit

So I can grade her S for Satisfied in Raiding

[wind topaz]

if you need heals

replace guillo with biscuit

[lusty pelican]

[umbral sky]

So is conclusion Elegg + 2B is bad?

I see in scroll up that Novel did better for 2B

[inner zenith]

Not bad

Good for SIM room

[sterile raven]

so Elegg is basically a replacement for Poli in doro priv team

how much better than poli is she?

like amazing oh my god wow or something less than that

I'm broke rn but I skipped Leona and I received mental damage by trying to make an mpriv team without her so I just don't want a repeat of that lol

[open horizon]

unless u care to push a lot deeper than top 3% in raids i dont think u need to pull anything

she is great and u will see her a lot in top teams next SR id say but i dont think shes gonna be the unit to make you go wow like you say

you will either use her to buff units like doro or in a team with sbs to save tia naga for another team maybe, the second part i havent tested myself ive just seen some numbers from a streamer showcasing it

[hushed trench]

If you dont have doro would it be a skip?

[open horizon]

i personally would but cant speak for everyone

[plucky topaz]

dororororo banner will be rerun in 1.5 anniv

[north magnet]

She is not for sanis but for sbs

[sterile raven]

as long as no teams are crippled without her I'll just wishlist her and never get her cause the wishlist is a scam

need to use my half-anni selector on Leona now to cope with that loss

[north magnet]

There is no half anni selector

[sterile raven]

there is because I just manifested it

trust

[deep cairn]

oh fuck more than 1 month more until next half anni

[round bane]

Is it recommended to OL Elegg?

[shut sable]

recommend if you want to go dps route

for buffer role, not much

[umbral sky]

Basically a trinity with Biscuit, Elegg, and S. Anis. They’re all electric support

[round bane]

Yeah I'm running Dorodoro Biscuit Sanis Egg and Privy rn

[north magnet]

Did u try Elegg vs Poli

[umbral sky]

I didn’t

[umbral sky]

As in replacing Elegg with Poli instead in that “trinity” team?

[umbral sky]

Poli should be worse than Elegg for personal damage

Buffing will be okay but Poli also doesn’t receive S.Anis help and it’s S.Anis off-burst so not as much point buffing S.Anis and wouldn’t buff Dorothy as much (fails to improve Dorothy burst cap)

Hence Poli should be worse than Elegg in every aspect except surviving, for that comp substitution

On top of it, Poli being Poli, it’s mag SG

So less versatile esp. in a squad that doesn’t help Poli hit

Elegg wins hands down

[river silo]

i just tested

elegg wins

4 4 4 on both

[umbral sky]

How big a win?

Like by a Nero whisker win?

Or stomped?

[river silo]

elegg team did 8% more

[umbral sky]

Not even close to 27.8%

[river silo]

imagine 2 banners from now

they release a big dps

that only hits with distributed dmg

skippers will cry

[wind topaz]

sbs is already a thing

[river silo]

elegg sbs hard to comp

with current units

[wind topaz]

they just need to release 2 better than sbs dps so they get tiga and bunnies instead of sbs

[umbral sky]

Because opportunity cost? SBS still wants to be with Alice

So no way Elegg helps that as much as bunnies or even tia & naga

[river silo]

sbs basically tied to alice

so if u just think

elegg sbs alice

only one that fits is doro priv

but no healer there

and it fks with sbs ammo

[wind topaz]

kisenix says alice has heal

[river silo]

kisenix is noob and bald

[umbral sky]

Kisenix ate a strange carrot

[wind topaz]

[umbral sky]

It’s fine

I enjoyed Elegg

[wind topaz]

what about morgod and sakura. morgod permataunt boss

[umbral sky]

I ran Doro, Elegg, S Anis, Guillotine, Privaty

[river silo]

morgod is still god

[umbral sky]

Still one shot LVL8-10 Kraken

So why not

[wind topaz]

surely it’s not because of your sync you whel

[umbral sky]

Well, I basically would never use Elegg in campaign 💀

SR came too early

Can’t Elegg Crystal

Why did they release a SR of a chapter boss we didn’t fight yet

[wind topaz]

they’re running out of tyrants

for sr

the remaining tyrants left for SR are kinda bad

sb, nihil, gd

LE

[umbral sky]

Who’s SB?

[river silo]

stormbrginer

[umbral sky]

Ah, the bird

[river silo]

if its the pierceable part core

RIP shotguns

lol

we need the god unit piercing machine gun

completely joever

[umbral sky]

They’d rather give us a SMG with -50% hitrate debuff

[north magnet]

With 4 OL?

[river silo]

mf

[north magnet]

Try Mast

@umbral sky

Has permanent def down which buffs Doro burst, chonky crit damage, and some personal damage

[umbral sky]

Mast has lower IQ

[north magnet]

Wtf is that answer

[umbral sky]

She misses out on immediate 100% burst gauge at battle start

[umbral sky]

Joke, basically Elegg is more sensible than Mast can ever hope to be

[north magnet]

No

Try it

I dont trust in assumptions

And Austin is biased af

With his Elegg having 4 OL, it makes sense that his Elegg does 8% more

[umbral sky]

I didn’t test Poli either… but I probably was correct there. Mast with lower IQ was a joke I made in reference to how dumb Mast acts while Elegg is basically a smarter Nikke who has a mature taste for Boom

Mast kit is vague to me, I need to look it up

Okay, I looked it up

Mast should lose to Elegg

[north magnet]

No she doesnt

U know elegg does practically nothing every other rotation

She is just a sitting duck

You calculate Elegg every rotation vs Mast every rotation

In which case Elegg wins

[umbral sky]

Elegg can’t proc her stuff without Boom install

Which means Elegg has to burst for that to happen

[north magnet]

But Elegg every other rotation vs Mast heavily favor toward Mast

Yes but the holy trinity team has Biscuit

For healing

So Biscuit now is just a regen support?

[umbral sky]

If we’re talking not helping B3s or B1, Elegg probably beats Mast in long run. Or, if it’s close, then machine gun is favored more than SMG in being versatile

If we’re talking helping distributed damage B1 or B3s, Elegg wins. If we’re talking helping max hp units Mast wins

If we’re talking helping early critting, Mast wins

If we’re talking early immediate full burst, Elegg wins

If we’re talking rotating between Biscuit and Elegg, or Biscuit and Mast…

I guess it boils down to just it depends because they each have different angles of advantage

[north magnet]

Elegg doesnt buff distributed damage half of the time

Lmao

It only buffs Doro's damage by investment / 2 at most.

Mast buffs Doro burst EVERY rotation