[Privaty: Unkind Maid] New Unit Megathread

[tired inlet]

Anything other than this comes from SG haters.

[latent willow]

My tove's S1 and S2 are at 9/7 for the atk speed

[tired inlet]

7 is useless

Either 4 or 10

[latent willow]

Darn

[tired inlet]

Well not exactly useless

[tropic flame]

it's not useless

[tired inlet]

More like insignif

[tropic flame]

you gain some eh

crit dmg

and may be along the fight

you gain 5 ~ 6 more shot

[tired inlet]

The buff lasts 12s for privm

17s with modernia

[cunning slate]

[tired inlet]

17s is minimum uptime

3s useless window

[brisk shoal]

Hmm?

Wdym?

Explain context

Tove skill 2?

The breakpoints were
2/4/7/10

Idk what you're trynna tell me

[tropic flame]

breakpoint is correct

but effective value is something else

[brisk shoal]

What's the bonus atk from 4->10

And 7->10

[tropic flame]

look at the fire rate

[cunning slate]

why debate this

[tropic flame]

now multiply them with 10s during full burst

[cunning slate]

just lv 10 it

lv 10 everything

[brisk shoal]

194 bullets
Vs
207 bullets
Vs
214 bullets

[tropic flame]

more like

19 bullets vs 20 bullets vs 21 bullets

during 10s full burst

which is, most of her dmg

[brisk shoal]

For mPriv it'll be like 12 bursts of damage right? Cuz she does good DPS on either burst

[tired inlet]

Can get 22 if ure a lucky asshole

[brisk shoal]

120 seconds of shooting?

[tired inlet]

Ah yes my wallet must be thick

[brisk shoal]

240 bullets
Vs
248 bullets
Vs
256 bullets

So uhm, I think it's fine

The rng check you need to fulfill is that during full burst you have > 90% uptime on tove atk speed

So it's fine

[tired inlet]

So, anyways, Tove's S2 uptime at base ammo is 77%. Theoretical fire rate increase is 2.7% at Level 7 and 10 respectively. However, the number of shots possible is fewer than this, with increasing reliance on max ammo per level.

[tired inlet]

77%

[brisk shoal]

Ye but u want good rng right
So aim for 85% or above

As a benchmark

[tired inlet]

Yes, but the dps increase per level is on the low side.

Most skills have 1.3-1.7

This one caps at 1.2

And is lower due to inconsistencies

Around 1

So 7 is fine

But 10 is a big no

[tropic flame]

[tired inlet]

PrivM burst is also not good

[tropic flame]

you actually have more AS than description

[brisk shoal]

Tldr, it's worth it?

[tropic flame]

no, stay lv 4

[brisk shoal]

Why not 7 at least

[brisk shoal]

Ok I get what you mean ig

[tropic flame]

you can stay resourceful at lv 4

optimize at lv 7

and austin at lv 10

[brisk shoal]

That's what it was supposed to be anyways

So 10 is fine then

[tropic flame]

minimum can be lv 4

it's a good start and cheap

then pour everything on S1 to make it 5%

fuck 4%

[tender cipher]

how are you guys affording investing so many books into 3 new shotgun units after past few meta units drained everyone dry. Who did you rob reset?

[tropic flame]

[tender cipher]

Day 1 player, make it make sense

[tropic flame]

you just need to skip some

and reset some

mine is half baked tho

should run some meth on Tove first before pushing her S2 to 7, but well it's fine tho

[tender cipher]

right now the only units I have investment in that might not be meta anymore is A2 and 2B

I just can't bring myself to do it to them yet

[spice flare]

yea don't

both has a very specific niche to use

[tropic flame]

do it

I know you are ITCHING

DO IT

RESET THEM

[tender cipher]

inb4 next solo raid is fire weak blacksmith

[spice flare]

can noise perform the same function as 2b in just auto-tanking for 3 mins straight?

[tropic flame]

[brisk shoal]

Reset anyone below priority 5

And you will have enough mats to get to recommended investments in

[spice flare]

[tropic flame]

if you need a tank and 2B can do that at lv 10

she can do at lv 1 too

[brisk shoal]

#raid-planning message

Priority is here

[tired inlet]

No

[tropic flame]

[tired inlet]

Its ok to reset them

Level them up again if needed

Reset for now

[spice flare]

[tropic flame]

be brave commander

do it

sometimes it requires courage to do the hard choice

[brisk shoal]

[tropic flame]

[spice flare]

nah i'm good

only need to up tove's s1 to 9

right?

[brisk shoal]

Ye

[spice flare]

what else

[brisk shoal]

Updated this

[tender cipher]

then why is everyone in this thread talking about sinking a billion books into units below prior 5

[tired inlet]

Tove is so wrong

[spice flare]

[tired inlet]

Dafuq is 4 4 7 7 10 10

It's 4 10 7 10 10 10

Literally

[tired inlet]

SKILL INVESTMENTS

Tove: 9 / 4 / 10
Leona: 4~7 / 7 / 4~7
PrivM: 10 / 10 / 4~7

~ is not needed

Minimum is totally fine

9 4 10, 4 7 4, 10 10 4

Save mats

This is bare minimum

The fuck is Tove and PrivM its so wrong

Bro misleading people

I dont bother

[tender cipher]

I've wondered this for a while, but what really is "minimum" getting you or not getting you

is it top 200 in solo raids? top 3%?

[brisk shoal]

Minimum 10

[spice flare]

we'll see when the sr drops

[brisk shoal]

Fuck off with that gay shit

[tired inlet]

Yeah its fucking Liter burst

Ok man

[spice flare]

mpriv may or may not solo carry the raid

like sbs/rh did with good rolls

[tender cipher]

I just meant the general use of the term minimum

[tired inlet]

She wouldnt

Just like xlud

[tender cipher]

like what expectation do you manage for a minimum investment roster

[tired inlet]

9 4 10 is minimum

[tender cipher]

cause it sometimes feels like feelscrafting, no offense

[tired inlet]

Burst is Liter's Burst but for SG

[brisk shoal]

Minimum means budget build

For f2p

[tired inlet]

4 7 4 Leona and 10 10 4 PrivM is fine

[tender cipher]

budget build to do what

[brisk shoal]

Recommended means ideal build for f2p

[tired inlet]

You don't need their bursts

[brisk shoal]

To make the nikke usable

[tired inlet]

U only need Tove's

[tender cipher]

they're usable at 1 1 1

[brisk shoal]

No they are not

Tove S1 at lvl1, you will get like 40% uptime on her s2

[tired inlet]

Tove and Leona no

[brisk shoal]

It does not work

[spice flare]

in theory, the best bang for your buck is always 4/4/4

[tender cipher]

they literally are, doesnt mean you will survive a 3 min fight

[spice flare]

since getting to 4 only takes 1-2 days of sim room 5c

[tender cipher]

I just wanna know what to expect from a minimum recommendation

[tired inlet]

Not survive its bad

[brisk shoal]

[tired inlet]

Tove 1 1 1 u just run Dolla Pepper

[tender cipher]

so is that the minimum? survive a fight but not rank anything?

[brisk shoal]

Its the minimum breakpoint to make a nikke effective is the best definition I can give to you

[tired inlet]

They have no damage till minimum invest

Its not survivability

[brisk shoal]

Survival is different

[tired inlet]

Minimum
Tove: 9/4/4
Leona: 4/7/4
PrivM: 4/4/4

Average/Recommended
Tove: 9/4/10
Leona: 4/7/4
PrivM: 10/10/4

Well Invested
Tove: 9/4/10
Leona: 7/7/7
PrivM: 10/10/7

Whale
Tove: 9/10/10
Leona: 10/7/10
PrivM: 10/10/10

[brisk shoal]

At 1/1/1, tove will be worse than say, using liter for MPrivaty

But at 9/4/4, she is now suddenly better than liter!

[tender cipher]

I might not be communicating this well, but what I mean is, to relate to a real world example, the minimum required Vitamin C to not get scurvy and die is like 5 mg a day. But the minimum requirement to be healthy is 1000 mg. Minimum has a relativistic meaning so in this game I just wanna know what I could really expect from these sorts of recommendation on units I feel sus about

[tired inlet]

Minimum is always healthy in terms of Nikke

It's the term for healthy.

Hell healthy is no good

1000mg is minimum for healthy

But most people need more than that

[spice flare]

look, if you can't reach minimum, then that's fine.
you just have to decide how many levels you're willing to upgrade them to

[tired inlet]

You just need to hit Average and leave

Thats NOT more expensive than Tiga or LitBun

Both of them are more expensive

Idk what ure saying

[brisk shoal]

Its the minimum investment needed to make a nikke effective at what she is good at.

Tove is a buffer for shotguns and she needs high invested skill 1 to make her "good".

Tove's skill 1 is one of the chemicals used for Vitamin C. Once you invest in skill 1, she will become vitamin C and cure your scurvy!

[tired inlet]

Tiga is 10/10/10

Tia is 10/4/4

RH is 10/10/10

Yes theyre cheaper

[spice flare]

can she become serotonin and cure my depression instead?

[tender cipher]

too real

[tired inlet]

PrivM yes

But no

Best cure to depression is RH

Because she is strong

Pulling PrivM will make u disappointed

= more depression

[tender cipher]

if I sink the minimum into Tove/Leona/PriM and don't rank top 50 in solo raid I'm gonna phone the manager

cause thats my minimum

j/k I've never gotten top 50

[tired inlet]

Tbh Priv is fine at 7/10/7

[atomic bramble]

Anyway we don't have enough ressources to build Tove/leona/mPrivaty at this level before the start of SR

[tired inlet]

S1 is 1.8% damage boost per level

S2 is

Around 1%

[orchid roost]

Tove, Leona, and Maid Privaty is harsher on requirements. Unlike Scarlet where you can invest into just her and see great results, investing just into Maid Privaty while you already own Scarlet will see lackluster results because you’ll just use Scarlet and feel like you wasted mats on Maid Privaty

[tired inlet]

As bad as Tove S2

[orchid roost]

So to bring Maid Privaty up to that level, or surpass it, you basically are forced to get Tove’s S1 up to 9…

[tender cipher]

that's a better way to express my point probably

[tired inlet]

Sorry revision

[tender cipher]

we're getting super saturated with expensive meta dps units and supports

[tired inlet]

It's better than Tove

[spice flare]

did sky finish testing yet?

[tired inlet]

No, cus Scarlet sucks

[orchid roost]

The sky fell

[tired inlet]

Scarlet has no upgrade opportunity

Except from shooting more

ATK is overly diluted

[tropic flame]

58% hỉt rate for 90% core hit

take it or leave

[atomic bramble]

yes and too low skills to really enjoy more team building

[tired inlet]

Even Tove's 79.5%

Translates to 66.24% only

Then it's all Priv's S2 stat

[tender cipher]

to use a better Nikke example, Lewdmilla was supposed to be a really good investment for water weak bosses (I know she still is of course), but in the last coop (Cbox) she was still not the best choice. My union just used Maxwell and SW or RH/RH like we do in every nearly coop. Lewd wasn't even getting close and I think mine is p strong.

[tropic flame]

MG in Co op

why?

just, why

[tired inlet]

1.5% DPS boost in Full Burst

Per level

[tender cipher]

it feels less good than it used to to spend a million books on units and not have them be omega wow amazing, that's all

[tired inlet]

Increases to 2.5% for 2s AFTER full burst

Then goes to 0% for 8s afterward

With Mod, this can be prolonged

[tropic flame]

do you know MG dmg is reduced by 50% in Co Op?

by default

[tender cipher]

nope, thats news to me

[tired inlet]

Which averages out at 1% DPS boost per level, which is quite depressing.

[fleet topaz]

30 fps on co op

[tender cipher]

like I said pretty clearly, we didnt use her, we just tried her

[tired inlet]

PrivM is 10/4/4 btw

[tired inlet]

What did u get

XLud 2x was the best last coop

Lol

Its the best team

[atomic bramble]

only MG are concerned and why did they do that ?

[tired inlet]

2x Xlud

[tender cipher]

if you say so

[tired inlet]

Those are the top ranker

All of them ran 2x Xlud

well invested Xlud

[tropic flame]

Smg and ar are reduced too

Because co op runs at 30fps

[tired inlet]

Xlud was the best last coop

Cus damage taken

And elementals

Fps don't matter

Elemental is broken in this game

[tropic flame]

You need 100% elemental to even make uo for your 30fps

Really?

[atomic bramble]

I used her and did good damage because of elementals

[tired inlet]

Yeah no, but XLud does more damage overall due to damage taken

[tropic flame]

Can she eve n maintain her debuff?

[tired inlet]

RH is slightly below

Alice too

[silver flame]

Elemental dmg meta is finally upon us?

[spice flare]

[tender cipher]

she did okay, but she just wasn't as good as SW and MW or RH/RH for us (depending on who was on)

[silver flame]

[tired inlet]

But these two units didnt need elemental to match the damage 🙂

XLud with 60% elemental scores slightly higher than RH/Alice

That already explains

[tired inlet]

Well invested here refers to 2 elemental lines or more

[tropic flame]

because Alice is also nerfed there. You have to slightly lower your "input"

[tired inlet]

25% Attack + 1~2 Elemental

Is what's considered well invested

For most units

RH can get away with Chg Dmg/Spd.

Alice needs Chg Spd, etc.

[tender cipher]

my Lud is 10 4 9 with 2 elemental lines

soon to be 10 4 10

[tired inlet]

But for XLud per se, it's 2 Ammo + 2 Elemental + 25% Attack minimum.

[tender cipher]

eventually I will come back and reroll for more ele but theres only so few rocks and my rng is busted in a bad way for rerolling

[tired inlet]

PrivM is 1 Ammo + 2 Elemental + 25% attack minimum too.

I mean not possible for everyone.

But having 2 elemental lines put you at a significant advantage every SR/UR.

A more generic approach is more ATK, or CritRate/Dmg/Hitrate.

[tender cipher]

Lud

[tired inlet]

4th gear shud be rerolled

[tender cipher]

eventually yes

it has ele so I dont think its a prio over some of my other units

[tired inlet]

The only unit that can have 1 elemental and not be refreshed

Is Scarlet

AND

RedHood

Cus both of them have 70%+ atk constantly

[atomic bramble]

good to know

[tired inlet]

Look at this gay ah XLud line

I keep it

Cus ATK is the best for her

This was 1 Max Ammo for PrivM

[tender cipher]

is 9% atk better than 20% ele on a water weak boss tho

[tired inlet]

I rerolled for ATK 3rd line

[tired inlet]

Dont prioritize ele over everything

2 ele is fine

There is dilution

3 ele or 4 is too niche if it's a solo line

I dont usually go with solo elemental line

It's too niche

[tender cipher]

I mean, nobody "rerolls" for 3rd line atk. Gacha god just comes down and gives you a break for once and you can skip a dose of antidepressants maybe

[tired inlet]

@tropic flame shud I reset attributes this or change effects?

That critrate is level 9 tho

Equal to 1.5~2.5% dps boost

[tender cipher]

so anyway. In PrivM teams does Tove and Leona need any particular OL lines to not suck ass

or can they scrape by without OLing their gears

I don't wanna go in on them super hard cause shotgun team feels like its being force fed to us and might not stick

[tired inlet]

Lmao

[tender cipher]

what is that, campaign?

[tired inlet]

Read small text

[tender cipher]

👓

[atomic bramble]

auto?

[modern berry]

Guys, real quick. How worthy is it to spend Golden Mileage on a single copy of M.Privaty?
(Context: I spent all rainbow tickets and gems I had, but couldn't get even a single copy of her)

[tired inlet]

Obv not

[tired inlet]

Max ammo on Tove is ok

Not mandatory

But if u constantly lose atk spd buff its also not fun

Its actually minuscule

Very small effect

Ill get at least 2 tho if ure srs

But u need to OL Tove helmet and gloves

Minimum

Maybe body too for more atk

[tender cipher]

I think I'd rather crit fish with SW and Yulha for a hundred years than feed more than 1 rock each to Tove's gear, but maybe the solo raid numbers this time will inspire me

[tired inlet]

Tove: 9/4/10
Leona: 7/7/7
PrivM: 10/7/4~7 (for more fun)

[tender cipher]

I don't personally think its worth it unless she really sparks joy for you. Save mileage tickets for pilgrims unless you're extremely lucky or like spending money

[tired inlet]

Leona is 1% crit rate + 1.6% crit dmg per level for every rotation, PrivM is 0.5% attack damage + 4% crit damage for herself every 2 rotations

According to the math god 1% crit rate is equal to around 1.7-2.0% crit damage

Drake is shit

@tropic flame drake is shit

[tender cipher]

your team dps looks p close

don't you famously have an high invested Maiden or is that just memes

6% change in damage

[tired inlet]

Not so different

It is the correct element stage anyway

[modern berry]

Yeah I would get her solely for waifu reasons, I really love her. But at the same time, Golden Mileage is too precious and I'm not rich nor lucky

[tired inlet]

Drake is better in the wrong element

@tropic flame modernia is so good here

No cap

That 5s extra FB

Healer DPS where

I guess Poli counts?

Somewhat

Lol

[humble frost]

[molten anchor]

damn why is drake so bad

[royal flume]

What OL Skills should I aim for Maid Privaty?

[solemn bison]

Mast better than novel?

[brisk shoal]

Pins

[brisk shoal]

For guillotine, yeah

[royal flume]

Thx

[tired inlet]

1 ammo minimum

Anything else is atk/ele/hit/crit

But 1 ammo is a must

[solemn bison]

ig its depend on novel and mast skills lvl? 444 mast vs 1 1 10 novel

[tired inlet]

Mast isnt good on boss that keeps jumping

And wtf Rosanna

[solemn bison]

you want me use moran on shooting range boss?

[cunning slate]

mast is better than novel here because boss is electric weak

and mast gets buffed by s.anis

novel is better on the other 4 elements

[tropic flame]

does your Mast have 4x elemental 4x atk?

else I don't think she can deal enough to cover the different

[cunning slate]

no

just get nabbed early on so mast is perma below 70%

and u got 51% crit dmg for 2 min 30 sec +

[tropic flame]

so is it related to electric somehow?

[cunning slate]

it is

[cunning slate]

r u bursting sakura first?

also slot 3 ur machine gun

sakura s.anis guil b2 moran in that order prob

[tropic flame]

it is

not

right

[errant atlas]

[spice flare]

me in this thread

[cunning slate]

mast is more dmg

already tested

no OL on mast

[spice flare]

mast skill levels?

vs b10 novel?

[cunning slate]

do u know how many skill mats i have

[spice flare]

ok whel

[cunning slate]

im f2p

[tropic flame]

Mast is more dmg true

but it's not related to electric

[spice flare]

so I reset 6/1/5 mast or 4/1/10 novel?

[brisk shoal]

both

[oblique token]

@brisk shoalyou around

[brisk shoal]

[oblique token]

whats status of Privalter with SAnis

is it worth taking the hit on SAnis? Or is it still better to leave her in Doro Team?

[brisk shoal]

she wont be used with sanis

not in solo raid at the very least

[oblique token]

okay. So that has been settled

[brisk shoal]

maybe in UR for electric boss but thats it

[brisk shoal]

they have diff teams

[cunning slate]

this is m. priv's team

[oblique token]

who is 4/5th for comp

[tropic flame]

not in this Solo Raid

[oblique token]

i know you suggested healer the other day

[tropic flame]

because we have to spread Electric

Sanis is one of the best support for her

only below Tove

[cunning slate]

electric spread gonna be fun

🙂

[oblique token]

Yes, but SAnis also takes a hit by not being in Doro comp

With the attack speed by tove though, wonder if it evens out

[tropic flame]

42% as, 79% ATK

[cunning slate]

daily reminder to not mentally equate s.anis and doro going together

[oblique token]

i use it as a general since that is the "standard" comp for Sanis

spreading Electric is valuable for this fight for sure. But im here to talk about Privalter and the comps that surround her

[brisk shoal]

tove leona MPriv SG/xLud Healer

[cunning slate]

standard changes every month

[brisk shoal]

thats the team, no cdr

[cunning slate]

SR4 standard was volume mast 2b s.anis guil

[tropic flame]

mathematically, SAnis should "gain" from Tove team than Doro

[cunning slate]

then tia naga came out

[oblique token]

yeah tia/naga really mixed things up

[cunning slate]

i will keep preaching the sakura mast s.anis guil moran combo

[oblique token]

XLud? interesting.

[cunning slate]

[oblique token]

Moran is new. I dont have her so I will investigate later

[brisk shoal]

gatrix cook, dont come at me

but its good

[tropic flame]

either Xlud or Mod

[brisk shoal]

works well

i checked

xLud good cuz buffs mpriv dps

[cunning slate]

[brisk shoal]

mod not good cuz who will give ammo to mod

[tropic flame]

Tove

[brisk shoal]

xLud can at least self sustain

[tropic flame]

whatchu mean

[oblique token]

LOL

[tropic flame]

that's 6 damn ammo

[oblique token]

Mod still performs well in Bunnies

[brisk shoal]

yeah no, bunnies is alice sbs i think

i think

bunnies alice sbs is booked

[oblique token]

but im just happy knocking down SW

[tropic flame]

bunnies alice sbs

[oblique token]

Mod was bunnies last SR

[tropic flame]

who will be electro?

who will break hit count shield too?

[cunning slate]

[brisk shoal]

yes but last sr was not crystal chamber

[oblique token]

in fact, she has been bunnies the last couple

[cunning slate]

u need electric in bunnies team

[oblique token]

im not talking just this SR

[brisk shoal]

why not put scarlet in tiga

[oblique token]

I am here to discuss in general

[brisk shoal]

tiga rh scar

[cunning slate]

[tropic flame]

electric and MG

[cunning slate]

sounding like kisenix rn

i cant talk much anymore

[tropic flame]

only Tia Naga can allow you to bullshit through

[cunning slate]

bye

[tropic flame]

due to shield + Naga electric

[brisk shoal]

mf says random shit and leaves

evry sr

[oblique token]

While I appreciate the SR talk

[cunning slate]

cuz

ppl are watching

i cant speak

[oblique token]

You can speak

i rarely act on people

[cunning slate]

not u

lol

[oblique token]

this is also a place of discussion

[brisk shoal]

leaves me more confused than what i started with

[oblique token]

regardless, you feel non elec weakness, SAnis will be put in with Privalter?

[cunning slate]

i personally dont think so

but i can be wrong

moran turned on the 1hp guillo tech

[oblique token]

leona seems counter to what she wants, even with pellets

[tropic flame]

she works for me

[cunning slate]

i dont see why u wudnt run s.anis guil moran

[tropic flame]

then be Lee Sin

[oblique token]

i need to actually look at Moran kit

[tropic flame]

stop seeing

[oblique token]

especially if I can run Gui at that part

since I actually like Gui

[tired inlet]

I actually understand what Austin is saying

[cunning slate]

[tired inlet]

And Idk how dumb Snake not to reqlize it

[oblique token]

ooc what is the full team you are suggesting for SAnis/Moran/Gui

[cunning slate]

sakura mast s.anis guil moran for electric weak, sakura novel s.anis guil moran for all other elements

[oblique token]

double B1? interesting

[cunning slate]

got 4 10 10 sakura ready

[tender cipher]

who goes with doro priv now

if not sanis

[cunning slate]

in general?

or next SR

next SR is gonna be wack

[tender cipher]

both I guess

[cunning slate]

i dont think there's a core

[oblique token]

i guess purpose is to push the idea of Gui never taking a hit

which means just throwing SG or XLud into Privalter

[tropic flame]

I'm sure Guillo can't be available this raidd

[oblique token]

this is def gonna be a weird one

[solemn bison]

i use rosanna burst 1st, is position matter when im manual control to make sure guli not stop shooting when boss jump?

[cunning slate]

u burst sakura first for the attack buff being with the s.anis burst

and it benefits guillo at the same time since guillos dmg is mostly from auto attacks

if u burst sakura during guillo burst, u get the same thing, guillo is buffed on her burst (which does nothing) and s.anis is buffed on her non burst

[solemn bison]

https://tenor.com/view/anya-forger-taking-notes-oomfie-spy-x-family-memo-gif-8287618218761733944

[cunning slate]

position matters.. but maybe dont want to get too much into it

⏸️

[cunning slate]

wats the multiplier for support vs attacker attack? @tropic flame @tired inlet

is it 80% or 88%

[tired inlet]

Exactly 83.33%

@brisk shoal why xlud?

Mod extends FB so its better if u dont run CDR

Xlud is super bad here

Because that woman wouldnt have atk buff 75% of the time

Mod is slightly better cus she has S2

[tired inlet]

• He says Bunnies need Electric, and the only Electric you can slap there is Scarlet OG, unless I forgot someone.
• You proposed Alice, which pairs better with SBS and/or RH.
• So, if you use Alice and either of these, you wouldn't have Electric.
• Unless the goddess descends and people make better teams, Scarlet for now is stuck to Bunnies, maybe with Volume.

The main problem will be Team 3, as if you run SAnis Guillo, you are forced to use Biscuit, Mast, Quency, or Isabel if she counts.

Now, SBS Alice prolly go to Tiga and/or Doro.

But here comes another problem. The lack of debuff removal.

@cunning slate also no, it wouldnt be Mast or Novel, it would be Ade. Otherwise, 30% atk debuff permanent isnt a concern for you.

Im tempted to re-explore XMica strat for SG tho

I can Max her and reset her

@tropic flame

Oi

Put XMica S2 to level 10

This is where u can test

Skill reset overlaps

This will be the ONLY opportunity, perhaps

Tove atk buff 2x more duration

Take it or leave it

At level 10 (breakpoint), Tove buff is permanent.

You also get 40% more ammo, and 40% atk boost every 20s.

[tropic flame]

I spent all mine

[tired inlet]

Noob fuck

U cant test now

[tropic flame]

[tired inlet]

hahahahahhahaa

Wait

[tropic flame]

ask Austin

ez

[tired inlet]

@devout shuttle brother I need help

U have leftover resets?

Go max S2 XMica

Run Resilience, and then use Tove burst once, and only use XMica afterward

[tropic flame]

not bursting Tove?

[tired inlet]

XMica

Refreshes Tove buff forever

[tropic flame]

yeah, not 79% atk

I guess he finally lost his marbles

[tired inlet]

XMica also helps maintain 3 stacks

[tropic flame]

[tired inlet]

Wdym?

[tired inlet]

Simulation shows she increases uptime from 77 to 90% u dumb

[tired inlet]

Yes?

[tropic flame]

[tired inlet]

Those refresh at 3 stacks

[tropic flame]

why do you want to burst Mica?

[tired inlet]

BECAUSE TOVE BUFF IS PERMANENT

Unless

Unless

[tropic flame]

less

my

ass

[tired inlet]

Unless she loses her stacks

[tropic flame]

[tired inlet]

Nonono

[tropic flame]

[tired inlet]

They didnt fix that

Guilty refreshes her attack bro

[tropic flame]

that's a bug

let me report it

[tired inlet]

No dont

Stfu

[tired inlet]

Also hows it a bug

It does refresh

Let me test it ok

Maybe its not worth the investment

[tropic flame]

[tired inlet]

As in bringing 1 more SG is better

[tropic flame]

do it

[tired inlet]

Im tempted

To test

[tropic flame]

sound reasonable not gonna lie

Mica keeps Tove ATK forever

that's ultra gay

I would exchange Leona for that

Leona => Marci immediately if it works

also you can use

"scope lock" to test

[tired inlet]

Leona is better

For dps

But

Heals

Ok i will fucking test this

Yall this is research

If it works

It is PATENTED by kisenix

@tropic flame at the end of FB

XMica S2 level 1

There is a problem with this

[tropic flame]

[tired inlet]

Apparently if you have 3 stacks of ATK boost

And Tove's S1 is 2 stacks

It will refresh into 2 stacks

[tropic flame]

[tired inlet]

Which means YES you can lose 3 stacks into 1 stack sadly

[tropic flame]

so in the end, it still depends on Tove

[tired inlet]

Normally u keep 3 throughout Burst

[tired inlet]

Butbutbht

She makes it more consistent

[tender cipher]

patent denied

[tropic flame]

https://tenor.com/view/gordon-ramsay-fuck-off-hells-kitchen-gif-5239890

[tired inlet]

Shud I

[cunning slate]

Mf did u not see u can choose the boss skills

[tired inlet]

Oh u mean choose which QTE not to kill*

[cunning slate]

Something like that

[tired inlet]

Ok ill max XMica

There is no harm

[tropic flame]

s2 only right

[tired inlet]

But I will also around 84 burst manuals

Lose*

Letsgo fuck it

[cunning slate]

Yikes

Bricked account

[tired inlet]

Skill reset

Ok the moment boss jumps u lose stacks

Literally 7s off burst

Its gonna disappear in 1 sec

Nice

Gravedigger also jumps

U moron

What if she doesnt burst instead

Ok dont do it guys

If xmica stops attacking even for 0.1 sec

Ure fucked

U might use her for this raid tho

Just reset her later

Pick the damage debuff skill

And cleanse it

[brisk shoal]

Okie

[tired inlet]

Mod has no Bastion here so

It does increase her damage

At the cost of 170m dmg

@tropic flame remind reset in 2 days

Guilty is almost ALWAYS a better pick

Re tested

Maiden has 841m

This one has 748m

Drake is around 790m

Ok but XMica is level 1

So maybe 770m

For sure I'm hitting 900m

[devout shuttle]

I don't have XMica 🤣

[tropic flame]

he needs to wait for Tove 3 stacks first

at least it secures the 79% atk

42% as may lost during full burst though

yike moment

[brisk shoal]

[tropic flame]

SG in shamble

[tired inlet]

No

Dolla is just shit

[mighty thicket]

blame Dolla

[tired inlet]

Xmica solves rng

But

She doesnt increase dmg

Was testing worth it?

[dreamy condor]

I couldn't. I was watching guitar rock vid on m.privaty testing and he kept on comparing m.privaty to other pilgrims w/ tove.

But that's feels skewed AF since these pilgrims don't benefit from tove lmao

[tropic flame]

finally a sane man

0

[dreamy condor]

I was having a stroke hearing him say m.privaty was pilgrim killer minus scarlet bs

Then of course, he tests without tove and the pilgrims do way more DMG than m.privaty. Well duhhhh

[tropic flame]

surprise pikachu face

[tired inlet]

@dreamy condor depends

Actually without ele advantage

Mod WITHOUT any buff

Is stronger

[errant atlas]

You really like this cat

[tropic flame]

I develop new habit

instead of typing

n

ah

[errant atlas]

[tropic flame]

it doesn't rhythm well with huh tho

may be I will rename this emote into

"huh"

[orchid roost]

idk, looks like cat is about to get swatted and he’s turning his head because he heard the knock on the door… or the door being blasted open, ninjas falling through the ceiling, and swinging through all available windows Laplace-style

Interesting testing though, so in the end X Mica bursting to keep Tove buff up isn’t worth the trouble

[tropic flame]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/910980477400264715/1205131228773097543/20240208_074017.gif

[green berry]

with Lightning advantage

Sugar so good move over Priv and Anis

also this team did more than the team with Guilty replacing SAnis

[tropic flame]

[tender cipher]

is ur sanis 3 3 3 with 3 max ammo lines

[green berry]

no max ammo OLs

10 6 7

[tropic flame]

that's a pure biased Sugar vs non invested Priv

my grandma can't be this liar

[green berry]

false

you love to see it

but anyway yeah it seems that my team with SAnis does more damage than the Guilty one

[tropic flame]

I just look at CP diff

only OL option can deceive that thing

[green berry]

nuh uh

there is no bias investments here

you should fix your eyes

[tropic flame]

no wonder you like Grandma Sugar

[green berry]

quiet you grandma

[tropic flame]

[green berry]

nap time for you

[tropic flame]

[orchid roost]

I’ve got an epiphany

Blabla needs cat gifs

[atomic bramble]

What do we have to stack (before burst?), can you explain what is the optimal use of Tove/Leona/MPrivaty for damage.
Also a screen during a battle of what we have to stack will be welcome. Thank you

[tropic flame]

doable

do not

[atomic bramble]

ok after that we can burst correct?

[tropic flame]

yep

hence running without cdr is not so bad for Tove

[atomic bramble]

yes right

[tropic flame]

since... you have to wait for 3 stacks anyway

[atomic bramble]

more clear now with the screen thanks !

[tropic flame]

and if you see a streak of 5s burst is ready but tove can't even stack?

you do the Snow Why strat

retry

[tired inlet]

3 B3, only 2 bursts

Dumbfuck

Look at CP difference too

[tropic flame]

thx captain obvious

[tired inlet]

[cunning slate]

[errant atlas]

[turbid temple]

[tired zephyr]

[cunning slate]

did he... full auto???

[brisk shoal]

I think he tweaks some stuff

Some gameplay

When needed

#raid-planning message

Damage comparison sheet is here

[cunning slate]

o.o sign in required? nah

[brisk shoal]

Huh

Shouldn't be

Lemme check

[green berry]

nuh uh

completely unbiased investments there

[clear canyon]

Anyone try putting in w.mica as the flex spot? Her agnostic stack buff is pretty clutch

could increase consistency for both tove and priv

[brisk shoal]

Kisenix did

@tired inlet what were results

[vague cave]

Plap only char

[green berry]

get out of here Hurr

no horny allowed

[vague cave]

Yoink

You think people pulled her for meta?

[green berry]

shush you

now shoo

[cunning slate]

troll

[tropic flame]

Mica needs 7.5s to shoot 150

If boss jumps

You are fked

[green berry]

is that right granny?

[tropic flame]

Ask your grandma sugar

[spice flare]

is mpriv leona tove etc worth putting in sync for UR?

[tropic flame]

Can you just

I dont know

Put all ssr in sync?

[spice flare]

ok whel

[orchid roost]

Hey Former Akon, I have a question about how many other parts make it worth it ignoring hitting core when there are no special bonuses for core, parts, or anything else, with piercing?

Assume core + body is normally possible.

Then, do I need to pierce 2 parts + body to make me want to ignore the core and focus on these juicy parts?

[spice flare]

yea I’ll do that, I’ll put mary, emma, signal, brid, admi, isabel and soda in sync

[tropic flame]

So core shot vs part + body?

[orchid roost]

Well, I figured core + body was routinely available

As in, strike core, it pierces, it hits body.. unless that’s wrong and it’s usually only core even if Alice is going ham

So it was core shot + the body hit behind the core, versus part + part + body strike

[tropic flame]

Normally core = no pierce for you

[orchid roost]

RIP

[tropic flame]

Only sr boss treats core = part

[orchid roost]

I had never bothered to examine that

[tropic flame]

So piercers become extremely broken there

[orchid roost]

Well, then that changes the scenario a little… but yeah

Basically, how many parts/body would I have to pierce, to make me want to give up hitting the core?

[tropic flame]

2 parts > core > 1 part

[orchid roost]

Dorothy messes with this a lot but only during full burst

It basically changes to part > core there right?

[tropic flame]

So if you hit sr boss, you need to pierce with 3 parts

Yeah for doro, part shooting is better

[green berry]

not only are you a grandma but also a whale

whale granny

[tropic flame]

Whore whore whore

[green berry]

yes you

🫵

[orchid roost]

To clarify, this is without including hitting the body?

[tropic flame]

Yep

Body then +1 to everything

[tired inlet]

If boss jumps, you cannot prolong ATK buff. If you use her as support only (no burst), then around 10-15% DPS boost on shotguns, probably higher on units other than PrivM, maybe 20%. Better yet, just bring another SG for more damage.

In this raid, you can bring XMica and try to time the cleanse and stack refresh.

Yes, XMica works like a charm against this boss.

Make sure you pay attention to stack refresh timing.

Or better yet just pick Skill 1.

[cunning slate]

https://tenor.com/view/dies-cat-gif-21483615

[tired inlet]

Use Mod here.

Easy peasy.

[cunning slate]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-memes-cat-images-cat-meme-gif-4644773688486402896

[tired inlet]

XLud is forced to go Tiga anyways.

If Mod goes here, Idk what goes to Bun.

[cunning slate]

@tropic flame u know how m. priv has 90 base accuracy

how much hit rate does she need at various distances such that the 90 spread can be reduced so that her spread covers the boss's core exactly

do u even have that info

it looks like 88.89% hit rate to become MG and 55.56% hit rate to become sniper rifle?

[tropic flame]

95% to become MG

[tired inlet]

She doesnt have that accurady

It diminishes the moment she fires

So the short interval reduces accuracy

In other words if she shoots 1/s, its worse than 3/s

[royal flume]

Thx

[tired inlet]

Tove S2 is more important than it seems just because of pure hitrate boost

[mint bay]

mf you told me 4 hit rates last time

[tropic flame]

make it 4

don't worry

I gotchu back

[green berry]

what a save by the granny

[tropic flame]

praise Sugar, our grandma

[green berry]

shes not a grandma

☕

you are

[tropic flame]

just accept it

[green berry]

no

how can i accept something that isnt the truth

[tiny birch]

gaslighting yourself

it's a form of cope hypnosis

[hexed basin]

Hey do I pull?

[errant atlas]

Read 📌

And make your choice

[tired inlet]

Skill recommend is wrong on pin btw

Aim for 10/7/5 imo. S1 is 2% DPS boost per level, others are 0.6-0.7%.

Or 10/5/5

No need 10/10/10

Value is super low right now, might increase if they release a broken ass SG unit

I upped to 10/5/7 and think of resetting already

Even Leona burst is more valuable

[cunning slate]

[tired inlet]

Tove S2 must be 10 due to hitrate

More important than Priv S2 or Burst

More important than Leona even

• Tove:
  Skill 1: 9 (Minimum)
  Skill 2: 10 (Recommended, +1.4% DPS boost per level)
  Burst Skill: 10 (Recommended)

• Leona:
  Skill 1: 5
  Skill 2: 7 (Minimum)
  Burst Skill: 5 (Optional, +0.6% DPS boost per level on all SGs)

• PrivM:
  Skill 1: 10 (Minimum, +2% DPS boost per level)
  Skill 2: 5 (Optional, +0.8% DPS boost per level)
  Burst Skill: 5 (Optional, +0.6% DPS boost per level)

[cunning slate]

Mf recommends 5s

[hexed basin]

so 10/5/5 is best? i do want to save my burst books

[cunning slate]

1 4 7 10 unless theres a breakpoint

Dont do 5s

[tired inlet]

Stfu

[cunning slate]

[tired inlet]

Do 5s

Its a one day fucking sim bro

Level 6 is 3 days

[tired inlet]

Maybe can keep burst at 4 if u want cus longer farming

And burst manual is much rarer