[Privaty: Unkind Maid] New Unit Megathread

[brisk shoal]

Apparently Arcalive did new calculations or something..?

Which gatrix picked up on

[tired inlet]

75 is AR accuracy

SR is around 90

[brisk shoal]

70 is priv accuracy

[tired inlet]

so what

[brisk shoal]

Thats where the 0.7 is from I guess?

[tired inlet]

austin get at least 1x max ammo

u need to reload like 3s before FB

and start firing already

to reduce spread

I think 2 max ammo is more than enough

but i'd go 3x

[cunning slate]

why r u backseat gaming me

[tired inlet]

cus thenu only need to reload once

[cunning slate]

i legit have 3x max ammo already

mf

who u talking to

[tired inlet]

im advising u beeeeeeeeech

[brisk shoal]

But @tired inlet

If I make it 60% hitrate (40% OL+20% Leona), it becomes

[tired inlet]

so one rot is 40 secs

[brisk shoal]

12% real hitrate

[cunning slate]

i load in with 29 ammo mf

[brisk shoal]

BRO I DONT UNDERSTAND

WHAT THE FUCK

[tired inlet]

20 times*

with Tove

that's 44 shots

wellreload once

sooo

-1.8

lets just round it to -2

so 40 shots

u need to have 40 shots available

per rotation

in FB, u can refund max 11 ammo

[cunning slate]

https://tenor.com/view/dono-wall-gif-24048347

[tired inlet]

29 ammo minimum

ok 2 max ammo + Bastion + Tove is enough, 3 for guarantee

[royal stirrup]

So Tove and MPriv are the two that synergize?

[tired inlet]

yeah 2 max ammo

get 2 max ammo

• Bastion

Recommended OL w/ Bastion:

• 2 Max Ammo
• ATK, ELE
• Fuck Hitrate
• Critical Rate acceptable.

One reload per rotation!

• Critical > Hit Rate because Critical affects S1 but Hit Rate doesn't 🙂, unless u hit the air

[royal stirrup]

Cool, I have both units

[tired inlet]

Max Ammo and ATK/ELE are on the same priority.

There's a way to circumvent not enough ammo by reloading 2x per rotation, but this is a notable DPS loss. Think of SBS that always reloads every rotation versus SBS that never reloads.

[hoary oxide]

such a bad design, her skill 2 completed non functional without leona even you hit all the pellets

[latent willow]

So Mpriv is still recommended at 10/1/10?

[tired inlet]

Huh?

10/10/7

With Tove and Leona

Who says 10/1/10?

Whos this bitch

Is it snake

[latent willow]

I guess so?

[tired inlet]

Oh thats for non Tove and Leona havers

[cunning slate]

[latent willow]

Ah, right. Since I'm mostly wanting to use her for elysion tower

[tired inlet]

Only tower?

Wtf man

[latent willow]

I just got Leona and I haven't touched tove

[tired inlet]

10/1/7 then

Dont 10 the burst

[hoary oxide]

Tove and Leona team is not even work atm, you either have no cdr or no healer

[tired inlet]

Waste of mats

[tired inlet]

No CDR is fine

Stat shows bringing a 3rd dps offsets CDR dps loss

Marciana may be able to offset to some degree

[cunning slate]

[tired inlet]

Or use Helm

[cunning slate]

shud we post the pre sr 10 skill sheet @brisk shoal

i updated it one more time today

[tired inlet]

But no sanis no sugar

[brisk shoal]

I don't have a description thought for it yet

[tired inlet]

Mob stage?

Dont do mob stage

How does ur Mod get outdpsed

Oh yea Maiden without Leona is a joke

The point is for her to get crit rate buff from her for her crit dmg buff

So no Leona, Maiden absolutely dead

Whats the chance of Mod being used in this team just for the longer full burst

Cus look

Mod being here means this team gets 0.5x multiplier for 5s, and PrivM gets 5 more secs of 55% ATK buff, without any DPS loss except from Mod herself, but if you have enough ammo to last 25s, then she will not reload at all. For this boss, she will rip open the "big glacier" that needs 500 hits.

[cunning slate]

[tired inlet]

Mod still gets 6.96% caster buff from Tove.

13.6% critical rate + 3.32%

39.66% crit dmg

Mod gets 6.96% caster's ATK buff, with 16.92% critical rate and 39.66% critical damage.

[cunning slate]

[tired inlet]

[latent willow]

Great 1st try

[brisk shoal]

This is a really good roll

Synergy with Leona

[earnest ledge]

the rng is not THAT bad

ppl just cant see themselves waiting a few seconds to burst with full stacks

probably maiden

if it's electric weak

if it's neutral element then
Tove Leona Mpriv Sugar/Drake Guilty

yeah

guilty will do more damage to make up for no cdr

there'll likely more sg in the near future to finish this team

[green berry]

join the SG squad

[earnest ledge]

but yeah only commit if you literally finished every other units

[green berry]

join us

invest

no excuses

invest in SG now

[latent willow]

Noted

[plush turret]

lord do i reset snow white for this

my snow white team always sucks in SR

[green berry]

what OLs does Leona need to help M Priv again?

Max Ammo?

[plush turret]

leona doesnt need anything

only attack

tove needs ammo

all ammo

[formal arch]

How impactful is maid priv rn

Thinking if I just mileage

[green berry]

I wouldnt mileage if i were you

mostly because shes not limited meaning you can just slot her in your wishlist after

[formal arch]

Thanks

[green berry]

so Attack, Elemental and Hit Rate?

[formal arch]

Might as well ammo up as well

[green berry]

id recommend pulling for her though, with your gems and tickets

just not mileage

[formal arch]

Just cuz she doesnt need it doesnt mean she doesnt want it

Alright

Me Oling my tove and leona hurts

[plush turret]

Not sure if its worth mileage

Personally id save mileage for pilgrim or limited

[plush turret]

Yeah probably attack mostly id say personally but elemental is good too, and max ammo should always be welcome

Hit rate good too

[formal arch]

Wait if we do tove leona m priv sugar guilty

Do we not need cd?

With how fast SG refills burst

[small juniper]

Hang on, is she limited?

[formal arch]

She is not

[small juniper]

But worth pulling regardless of that?

[green berry]

somewhat

[small juniper]

Just saw the pinned messages, i can try getting her just because

i like her design

[formal arch]

Yep

[plush turret]

The extra dps makes up for damage lost from cdr

However the ideal scenario would be for a cdr healer to come out

[tiny birch]

cdr shotty healer, a little too much to ask for. But we never know

[small juniper]

recommended to use banner pull, right?

[plush turret]

Doesnt need to be shotty

[tiny birch]

it fixes my autism because the 5th member being sg means that
the entire team will be sg besides tove

and that's sexy af

[plush turret]

That would be good yeah

I mean i guess u could add pepper for a healer slot now and also do damage

But ud have to manual her

Imagine if pepper had cdr

Godly

[tiny birch]

nah peppa can't heal for crap without bursting. If you need a shotty healer for this specific comp you'll want marci
speaking from experience

[green berry]

problem with Pepper is the CD

which is a common problem with SG teams

they build Burst so fast

now to cope for a B3 SG CDR

[cunning slate]

[peak spindle]

Should I also cope for a Maiden buff?

Like I dunno, add 10 seconds of indomitability to skill 2?

[green berry]

no

get your own copium

[brisk shoal]

@tropic flame just to clarify

What is normal AR spread

75/90 for privaty

[tropic flame]

75/90

[brisk shoal]

Oh

[tropic flame]

For all ar

[brisk shoal]

Its exactly that

?

[tropic flame]

Yes

Exactly

[brisk shoal]

So now we use AR formula?

[tropic flame]

Yeah

M priv reduces her base spread, then hit rate is applied

[brisk shoal]

• AR = 76 - 0.69 x % Hit rate

This right?

[tropic flame]

Yeah

76 here is pixel

[brisk shoal]

% real hit rate = (1-0.7)x(1-%hit rate)

What did you mean by this?

[tropic flame]

Because two formulas, although sharing same concept, expresses in 2 objects

Kr one uses pixel

Aka the big of the gray circle in game

Radius in pixel

For me, i use the datamine value

[brisk shoal]

Yeah I get it now

So your formula would be
75 or 90 × (1-%hitrate)

Idk why you do 1-0.7 tho

[brisk shoal]

Over here

[tropic flame]

Hm no, my formula just translates the effective value of hit rate for priv. A 40% only works like 12% for her.

[tropic flame]

Here, how many pixel is reduced by this formula if u put 40% in?

[brisk shoal]

Essentially
12% of 250 = 40% of 75

I get it now

[tropic flame]

Then u take that number divides for 250

Yeah

[pallid whale]

is it worth pulling for priv?

i dont have any useful sg user , besides noir , and she is not much of a sg buffer

[brisk shoal]

Nah you can skip and wishlist

Or well, one copy is safe

Mpriv is skippable

But one copy is what I recommend to everyone

[pallid whale]

i have not broken the wall yet

i have like 50 k and 0 milage tickets , skip or pull?

[smoky ravine]

Pull 1

[cunning slate]

not me

fire weak next

i just sent final draft to snake for unit investment guide

i wonder if mf fell asleep

[orchid roost]

I’ll probably reset A2 and 2B, they’re trophies now

Well, no rush… I can wait a few more days and think it over

[latent willow]

I just did

[steep flower]

Resetted 2B for me lol

[cunning slate]

[tropic flame]

austin ple

[tiny birch]

I fucking kneel

[cunning slate]

still got this much left over

[slim pollen]

Anyone test Guilty with Tove+Privaty?

[devout shuttle]

@slim pollen

[slim pollen]

Can you test Guilty in place of Leona? I don't have Leona

[tiny birch]

@devout shuttlecan you test tove/leona/marci with drake or sanis?

I'm wondering how different it will be if I don't use normal helm for healing and instead rely on marci

[devout shuttle]

If i have a free time, I'll test it

[cunning slate]

@tropic flame @brisk shoal

for this "shotgun" hit rate base of 250

and this "AR" hit rate base of 75

what are snipers, mgs, rocket launchers, smgs value

wtf do u even call this

[brisk shoal]

Base accuracy value

[cunning slate]

hit rate multiplier?

ok

[brisk shoal]

Accuracy is basically the circle you see

Hitrate increases accuracy by making the circle small

[cunning slate]

makes sense

[brisk shoal]

Check a char shot table for them

[cunning slate]

i just want to know the values

[cunning slate]

wtf is that

[brisk shoal]

Bruh, wait

[earnest bobcat]

illegal numbers

[brisk shoal]

I'll just give the values

[earnest bobcat]

[cunning slate]

[tropic flame]

in Nikke

• First shot after reload or first shot of the match has smaller spread than normal. Reasonable because gun is "cold"

• Follow up shot will have bigger spread (just a bit)

for SG, these are 250/300 (dunno the number means, they don't translate well into pixel)
for AR, it's 75/90

[cunning slate]

Rocket Launcher = 10
Machine Gun = 10
Shotgun = 250
Sniper Rifle = 40
Submachine Gun = 110
Assault Rifle = 75

so this?

[tropic flame]

MG is actually 10

[cunning slate]

and hit rate % is multiplied by that

anyhting else?

[earnest bobcat]

Isn't sr 40

[brisk shoal]

AR 75/90
SG 250/300
MG 250->10
RL 10/40
SR 10/40
SMG 110/130

Mpriv 250/300->75/90

[tropic flame]

SR is 40 true

10 first shot only

RL is also 10/40 but they ALWAYS Core hit

[cunning slate]

so this?

[brisk shoal]

Cuz all of their shots have first shot accuracy for some reason?

[tropic flame]

Use 2ndary value

MG = 10
RL = 10
SR = 40
SG = 300
AR = 90
SMG = 130

[earnest bobcat]

Its prob splash mechanic

[brisk shoal]

Oh true

Makes more sense

[cunning slate]

okay ty

yoinked

[tropic flame]

Now I do know 300 - 100 = 200
But 300 with 70% hit rate will be?

I don't know

[cunning slate]

wait wudn RL be 40

[tropic flame]

RL is 40 but core hit always

so, does it matter?

[cunning slate]

im trying to find the value

that it multiplies by hit rate

even if it means nothing

so its 40?

[tropic flame]

40

[brisk shoal]

Hitrate doesn't matter for rl

[cunning slate]

im tryna get values even if they dont matter lol

[tropic flame]

they do reduce spread but still core hit 100%

[brisk shoal]

Ye, it's 40 then

[cunning slate]

ty everyone

[earnest bobcat]

It will be w/e 90 is

[cunning slate]

fk u @languid reef

[tropic flame]

now KR kinda confirm SG with 70% hit rate is roughly AR

so 300 - 300 x 70% = 90

[wide bloom]

What OLs do i want for Mpriv?

[tropic flame]

right?

except at 100% hit rate, it's not 300 - 300 x 100% = 0 lmao

[earnest bobcat]

Doesn't shot table show what it becomes on base?

[tropic flame]

hence KR bro drops the datamine value and use pixel counting instead

SG final pixel gray radius = 240 - 218 x % hit rate

[earnest bobcat]

I didn't look at mpriv tbh

[cunning slate]

wait so if u get to zero thats a true laser?

[tropic flame]

for Mpriv, at final value (90), hit rate is applied on that 90

[cunning slate]

10 for machine gun isnt laser?

[brisk shoal]

Ask this tomorrow pls

[tropic flame]

I think I can see the spread a bit?

[brisk shoal]

10 is true laser

[tropic flame]

always core hit

[brisk shoal]

Mgs will always core hit

[tropic flame]

but it's not in a line if you know what I mean

the core is big enough that 10 always core hits

[earnest bobcat]

It's close enough to a line that it doesn't matter

Like how a circle if u zoom in has a lot of corners

[tropic flame]

I guess 1 only matter if you have 1 pixel core?

[brisk shoal]

Wait, lemme use what gatrix showed me

[earnest bobcat]

But it's a circle

[cunning slate]

so m priv goes from 300 to 90?

[tropic flame]

yep

300 => 90

[cunning slate]

great

[tropic flame]

every 36 pellets

300 => 195 => 90 every 18 pellets land

[brisk shoal]

Damn it don't have MG

[tropic flame]

KR guide?

[brisk shoal]

Ye

[tropic flame]

of course not. No one's gonna research MG, impossible to study different below 10

[brisk shoal]

I guess, yeah

Its interesting how it works tho

I wouldn't have solved this like ever

Brain too small

[solemn bison]

any team for her without tove/leona?

or just leave her till i got them somehow...

[brisk shoal]

Yeah, try mPriv with

Should work

[tropic flame]

MPriv Anne Pepper Drake Noir. The nuke comp in PVP

or

Miranda SHelm MPriv Guillo Priv in Ely tower

nothing else

SG can't even function without Tove

[earnest bobcat]

Wtb 1 cdr unit

I'm struggling

[brisk shoal]

Well with tove Leona team

You don't need cdr

Cuz you don't have one available in the form of b3 cdr

[earnest bobcat]

Imagine having books for Leona tove

Do I look like Austin to u

[brisk shoal]

I just

Ignored maxxing out naga

And Maxwell burst still 7

[tropic flame]

right after next shot. The radius is "cool-down" to this point (looks like 83% hit rate)

33% hit rate base

[cunning slate]

[tropic flame]

finally someone read skill

[devout pasture]

How much has she increased??

[tropic flame]

a lot

[brisk shoal]

@tropic flame does priv needs to hit pellets to increase hitrate?

No right?

Just shoot shots

4 shots = max hr

[tropic flame]

nah

no pellet, no party

better choose your target wisely else it may take 10 hits

[brisk shoal]

Wait what

Fr?

You need to land pellets?

[tropic flame]

let me check my record

seems like no need

4 hits and br br

[brisk shoal]

Good

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1203222404130934875/1204156409244028970/Screenrecorder-2024-02-05-23-44-45-901.mp4?ex=65d3b50c&is=65c1400c&hm=107f580d3748b3dc49562f1791a5346b3c37a783776c6b14443248b3108e2786&

@tropic flame think you do need to land

[tropic flame]

oh

mine has 30% hit rate

I guess it helps landing more pellets

[brisk shoal]

Look at when it's hitting that flying rapture

[tropic flame]

yeah I tested with flying mob too

[brisk shoal]

Mf I can't even see black circle

What u got, 500% hitrate?

[tropic flame]

no

this is after hit

gray circle will be shrunk temporarily

it took 2s round up to completely cool down Privaty gun

[cunning slate]

hit rate pretty muhc solved

[tropic flame]

from "heat-up" Hit Rate

[cunning slate]

@tropic flame figure out machine gun windup time now

[tropic flame]

didn't I told you last time?

[brisk shoal]

I think priv is never hitting a shot at 90 at all

Either that, or the circle shrinks to 75, and comes back up to 90 between each shot

[cunning slate]

hmm so we can say that

M. priv gains 35% hit rate every 2 auto attacks, with or without leona

correct?

from the 300 shotgun base

at whcih her weapon becomes 90 AR base

[tropic flame]

yeah

[cunning slate]

[tropic flame]

huh

Leona should help more I think

if we accept that you need to land pellet

from Snake vìd

[brisk shoal]

0->10->20->30->40
250->300->195->90->90

0->15->30->45->60
250->300->195->90->90

[cunning slate]

yea but in practice u dont run shotguns unless boss is as big as @languid reef 's mom

so u land all of em

[tropic flame]

this is mine

pretty much AR with 30% hit rate

[cunning slate]

wat is it

[tropic flame]

2.33s

or 35 ammo

at 60 fps

[cunning slate]

[languid reef]

Woah

[cunning slate]

[vague cave]

This pin xD

Works for elysian tower

[devout shuttle]

@slim pollen @tiny birch
Burst Marci + Guilty (no burst) = 659 m
Burst Marci + Leona (no burst) = 639 m
Burst Leona + Marci (no burst) = 682 m

if don't go with Sanis

*Suagr core max ATK 29% 4/5/10
PriM 3 LB No ATK 10/7/7
Guilty 3 LB ATK 32.62% 10/4/4
Drake core 6 no ol 4/1/1

[tired inlet]

Wow

Guilty casually outdamaging PrivM at zero LB

[tropic flame]

2% stat matters that much?

[tired inlet]

Now why not BOTH

[tired inlet]

It does

Matter

[tropic flame]

does

not

[slim pollen]

Nice

[tired inlet]

Bro math skills decay so fast

2% is big

[cunning slate]

[tropic flame]

he lost his marbles again

[slim pollen]

Think I can ignore Leona and use Guilty instead

[tired inlet]

Wrong

Use both

[slim pollen]

Dude I don't have Leona

No choice

[tired inlet]

Try Tove Leona Guilty Helm PrivM pls

Leona burst ofc

[devout shuttle]

@tired inlet

[tired inlet]

Wtf privM useless

[peak spindle]

Wat about maiden

Found dead after taunt?

[devout shuttle]

Suagr core max ATK 29% 4/5/10
PriM 3 LB No ATK 10/7/7
Guilty 3 LB ATK 32.62% 10/4/4
Drake core 6 no ol 4/1/1

[tired inlet]

Maiden ok

For water boss

If at least 1 ele

2 ele

Maybe

[peak spindle]

But the taunt keeps getting her killed

[tired inlet]

His PrivM is weaker so

[peak spindle]

And what about Elysion tower

[tired inlet]

Can u stop coping elysion tower

PrivM is just forced to work in elysion tower

Maiden too

Use privm privaty guillo

[peak spindle]

Maiden in solo raid? Probably not

[tired inlet]

She will be

Water boss

[peak spindle]

Again the taunt though

[tired inlet]

Literally better than guilty

Taunt is ok

Its not that big of a deal

Unless timing sucks

[peak spindle]

What about the skill 1 that almost never works?

[tired inlet]

I expect PrivM to take aggro in full burst anyways

[tired inlet]

Who cares

We only care about ele advantage

Plus she works at 4 4 4

Unlike Guilty

Needs 10/4/4

[peak spindle]

Even sillier question: why not go Sakura/Noise/dolla/Isabel/mpriv?

[tired inlet]

100% Scarlet goes to LitBun

[tired inlet]

Isabel?

Read privm s2 again

And read how fucked up 5s fb is for the team

I even considered using mod here

[tired inlet]

Thanjs

Now can u try Maxwell or Mod instead of Helm

Esp Mod (Mod burst used)

[peak spindle]

But you can eventually cycle more full burst uptime overall

[tired inlet]

?

No?

[peak spindle]

Losing 5 seconds is just another way of trying to stack burst cdr for dolla asap

[tired inlet]

Omg let me magically remove my 20s CD

[tired inlet]

Nah

Dolla is just enough for 10s FB

Idk what ure saying

[peak spindle]

Plus Sakura burst cdr

[tired inlet]

U literally have to wait 1 sec with Dolla

[tired inlet]

Hmmm

Nah

Well

The problem is with MPriv

Wait no

Mpriv doesnt work without Tove or Leona

Mpriv also doesnt work with shorter FB

[peak spindle]

You do realize that team 5 for water train solo raid was harran and Isabel

[tired inlet]

Bro that was old

The fuck u mean by Harran tho?

No one used Harran

Yes some used Isabel

Maybe in this raid again too

[cunning slate]

wat are these overcooked meals im reading

[peak spindle]

[cunning slate]

isabel cooks should not ever be entertained

she needs a rework

her kit literally zero dmg

[lyric fossil]

So is she good at all in pvp

[willow vigil]

So is Peverty a must pull?

Do I need specific units to make her work?

[tropic flame]

[willow vigil]

Today I learned threads can have pins.

[hardy wharf]

should learn u can gift nitro to friend too

[spice flare]

hello friend

[lean spoke]

How to check pins on mobile?

[brisk shoal]

Click on channel name on top of screen
Then Click on settings
Then you'll see pins

Pinned messages

New update for discord so gay

[atomic bramble]

@tropic flame how do you get so much damage with MPrivaty?

[tropic flame]

water buff

that's 4x ele

[latent willow]

Ikr. Finally someone gets it

Even on mobile it's worse

[pallid whale]

should i pull mpriv if i dont have tove or any oth sg buffer?

no tove , dolla or leona

[plush turret]

wouldnt bother

[coarse hazel]

might as well skip since she isnt limited

unless u do PVP for her AOE

then she worth pulling just for that

[orchid roost]

Depends on if you want improvements to Elysion Tower. She is the 2nd best option for damaging B3 after Guillotine there

We also can’t say just wait for the next better Elysion

Because we have no clue what it’ll be like

For all we know it’ll require SMG support Nikkes invested 😂

As in SMG weapon type help

Like how Maid Privaty wants SG weapon type help

[plush turret]

personally i dont see the need to rush tower, u will get stuck again eventually its just howits designed if u arent whaling

[coarse hazel]

what if... MPriv banner was actually bait

[orchid roost]

It’ll be a while before we find out

Ade banner is next

Then near its end we’ll get leaks for next Nikke

[coarse hazel]

meh Ade is an easy skip

[orchid roost]

Well not leaks.. official kit announcements I meant

[coarse hazel]

unless u simp for her

[plush turret]

i do think shes a good character and in my eyes building leona and tove is worth it even if its a lot of investment mostly for tove, but these two supports will likely be relevant again and i think whatever shotgun dps or healer comes next will fit in that team nicely

[orchid roost]

It’s been a year.. and this next year might feature weapon type based comps

[plush turret]

but without those two supports its a bit hard to justify pulling... even if u do have them if u wont have resources to build them again its a bit wasteful

[orchid roost]

It’s still early and there will be a collab somewhere this year

Though it’s mostly an educated guess

You may have regrets if you splurge on Maid Privaty, then collab brings a limited Nikke that’s awesome

And there’s still Half Anniversary possible Pilgrim

[plush turret]

yep

[orchid roost]

And with Elysion being understaffed, we might see more Elysion Nikkes.. but we said this last year only for ShiftUp to release more Tetra Nikkes wtf!!!

[plush turret]

i gave myself a 20 pull budget for privaty and i got her in 10 thankfully

slowly building tove now

and will leave leona 4/7/4 for a good while

[cunning slate]

someone buy me nitro i run out tonight

[green berry]

did you invest in SG yet?

you better

[cunning slate]

#1203252430406426695 message

[green berry]

fake, i dont see Sugar investment

☕

[cunning slate]

sorry sugar sux

[green berry]

false

i think i already asked this before but which team does more damage than the other?
Tove-Leona-Sugar-Maid Priv- Guilty or Tove-Leona-Sugar-Maid Priv-SAnis?

[cunning slate]

no cdr no healing comps

[green berry]

damn

[green berry]

yeah but i thought the extra DPS would compensate for the lack of CDR right?

[cunning slate]

the comp should be

Tove + Leona + M. Priv + X + Y, where X has to be a DPS and Y has to be a CDR or heal/taunter that can live.

[green berry]

do we even have a usable B3 CDR?

[solemn bison]

1st b3 cdr should be a pilgrim

[cunning slate]

doesnt have to be b3

it can be b1 or b2 just doesnt need to burst

or it can be a re-enter burst 1 2 3 mechanic

the comp also works if you have dps healer or dps cdr

[solemn bison]

isnt we want b3 cuz no one want 2 1 2/1 2 2?

[brisk shoal]

Try using
Mpriv AnneMF SBS pepper anis
Noah Noise Scarlet Biscuit jackal
Blanc SAnis Rapunzel centi Drake

As a Def team

For pee v pee

I saw you 101010ed mpriv

[cunning slate]

thats a common misconception u can have ur sub slot be b1 or b2 as long as they contribute dmg

[solemn bison]

oh

[green berry]

yeah i think ill just go Rapunzel or Makima depending on the content

thanks 👍

[earnest bobcat]

dw we have guilty so we just need that 1 b3 out there thats heal cdr dps

probably needs to be clip sg too so burst gen isnt terriblee

[cunning slate]

sorry just got off meetings

tired kid

pvp i signed a peace treaty i wont get attacked

[brisk shoal]

all good

[brisk shoal]

gay

[tired inlet]

Oh I do that too

My union member is in my bracket

[green berry]

bribers smh

[hoary oxide]

do we need hit rate in OL

[tiny birch]

most people are getting at least 20-30% to be comfy

[brisk shoal]

still no proper ol recs from anyone?

only got kisenix rec

[spice flare]

that's the best rec there is

[brisk shoal]

OL recommendations for MPriv:
4 atk
4 ele
2 hitrate
and last 2 can be ammo/critrate/hitrate

[spice flare]

yea good luck getting all that

[brisk shoal]

so hitrate shouldnt be really necessary i guess

im aiming for
977 tove
474 leona
777 mpriv

cant invest to 10 man

and will just aim for atk/ele, hitrate dont matter to me

[cunning slate]

not with that attitude

[cunning slate]

id say 2 ammo is more mandatory than 2 hit rate

me with 29 ammo

[tropic flame]

2 ammo may help you only reload before every burst

[brisk shoal]

MPriv vs Maiden
PvP comparison

Mpriv:

• overall higher damage nuke than maiden's when paired with damage buffers
• S1 has cleanup damage that is not blocked by noah biscuit or makima
• no hitcount requirement

Maiden:

• overall weaker than MPriv's when paired with damage buffers
• High burst gen
• Need to fulfill hitcount requirement

] when u want burst gen and can fulfill hitcount req, u choose maiden
] when u want a better nuke + cleanup damage and can fulfill burst gen req, u choose MPriv

[cunning slate]

miden?

[brisk shoal]

aite @tired inlet make draft, this should be solved now

[spice flare]

the hell is hitcount requirement?

[brisk shoal]

:icon_skill1: Skill 1: Kotodama: Words of Skill
■ Activates when attacked 20 time(s). Affects self.
Revenge: ATK ▲ 26.66% for 20 sec.

[tired inlet]

PrivM XAnne Rosanna is a good combo

Btw

[brisk shoal]

Ye but then you need to spend 2 clips here

No?

[tired inlet]

Just one clip and one sg is ok

Can reach 2.5 RL if privM dies

[brisk shoal]

Oh true

That's 3rl

Could work well

[small patrol]

Yeah, I'm sticking to this for my Def team

[cunning slate]

after some testing

i think everyone should pull a copy

[small patrol]

At least 1

[cunning slate]

like even without leona tove

[small patrol]

How is she without them as per PvE?

[cunning slate]

she's not good without them

but u can get them from wishlist

[small patrol]

So PvP then, while waiting for Leona

[cunning slate]

and once a team comp becomes coherent she's actually pretty competitive with team 4/5

[small patrol]

ooh

[hidden harbor]

her team works kinkda like SW team, very specific team comp that the main dps can't really fit elsewhere (MPriv)

[cunning slate]

its kinda like that but i wud say its the other way around

the supports are following the DPS

like miranda yulha are following SW

here tove leona follow m priv

liter volume and dorothy are all fugly with sw and m priv

[tiny birch]

gonna hyperinvest into this buttplug-packing maid

and her PISS-drinking sidekick

[hidden harbor]

investment wise, yes

SW need to be strong for Miranda and Yulha to enable her. It's the other way around for MPriv

[cunning slate]

just buy out all skill packs

[tropic flame]

finally

Austin lost his marbles

[molten anchor]

How is privaty looking? Is she okay to use now or do we need to wait for some kind of cd reduction healer

[cunning slate]

decent enough to warrant a pull

[molten anchor]

already have her but I'm not sure if I should invest into her just yet

[molten anchor]

already have tove and leona

[cunning slate]

if u dont know investment just wait till solo raid opens

off the shooting range boss, i think the comp is worth building after you have your meta team 1-4 units invested

[molten anchor]

its too bad her raid comp is gimped for now unless you drop tove or leona

[brisk shoal]

Not gimped

Tove and Leona bring her to the top

But without them she's still a usable DPS overall imo for newer players

So if you lack most units she's definitely a pull

Its not that insanely bad I'd say, but yeah you can't beat scarlet with it (scarlet is considered the benchmark for being good)

[cunning slate]

she is better than scarlet if u can get tove in there

[brisk shoal]

Just tove?

Damn

[molten anchor]

yeah I already got her so I'm just waiting

[tropic flame]

wow

and here I am, repeating how Tove is the back bone of SG team

[molten anchor]

not being able to fit cd + heals into that comp without dropping either tove or leona kinda sucks tho

[tropic flame]

you lose 10% dmg without CDR

better more comfy with heal

[brisk shoal]

You're looking at the first team that can work well without cdr for bossing

[molten anchor]

who's good for her other than s.anis since I'll be keeping s.anis with my regular dorothy comp

[brisk shoal]

Drake/sugar I guess

[molten anchor]

drake skin rerun waiting room

[tropic flame]

I'd prefer Xludmilla there

better than Sugar/Drake by miles

[cunning slate]

i feel like the doro biscuit s.anis priv X comp has too much tunnel vision

everyone is like omg great comp

[tropic flame]

not me

but this time they can stay

we need to spread the Electric nikkes

[cunning slate]

ima run sakura mast s.anis guil moran no matter what

just to prove a point

[tropic flame]

a point out of top 50

[cunning slate]

i have 70% ele dmg on m. priv

[tropic flame]

what's the thread about piloting anyway

[cunning slate]

i think ill top 50 just full auto

[tropic flame]

[brisk shoal]

Yeah but wouldn't it be better to use xLud in a team that buffs her

[molten anchor]

xlud already in my s.mary novel comp

[tropic flame]

we have 9 great dps this time, you will have to spread MG and Electric

Tia one can cope with hit count bomb, as long as Naga breaks rings and shield blocks missile

but other teams need MG

500 hit count ain't joke

[brisk shoal]

Alice SBS pair
Scar Rh tiga..?
Dor SAnis priv..?
xLud Maxwell..?
Mpriv X

No snowwhite

Who did I miss

Modernia?

Oh so
Maxwell mod
And then xLud here

[tropic flame]

[brisk shoal]

I see what u meant

[tropic flame]

Xlud in Priv allows you to burst her

Mod is not

[cunning slate]

there is a chance sw straight up isnt used

[brisk shoal]

Or like
If we don't need biscuit SAnis we could:
SAnis priv mod
And xLud max
And then mPriv sugar

[cunning slate]

but have to see the pierce points

or

guil moran

haters will be proven wrong

morgod

[brisk shoal]

Oh fuck

Guillo exists

[tropic flame]

can you even break hit count bomb with Snow team?

[cunning slate]

u cant

[brisk shoal]

Ye, shelm

[tropic flame]

yep, bye Snow

[brisk shoal]

Oh wait hitcount bomb

[tropic flame]

500/12 = 45s

[brisk shoal]

[tropic flame]

good fucking luck

[brisk shoal]

You can iframe the bombs though

So

[tropic flame]

true true

it just hits everyone

micro managing everyone I guess

[cunning slate]

[tropic flame]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1059468005911830558/1204684322313863169/dessert_c313-fever2.gif

why this one doesn't work

[cunning slate]

here's a sneak peek of my team 5

[tropic flame]

mother of god

[brisk shoal]

If we go
SAnis guillo then

Alice SBS
Scar Rh
Doro max mod

We get gatrix's xLud mpriv

[brisk shoal]

Huge leak

[cunning slate]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1103933953582301184/1204555940679131216/ezgif-5-fd96437721.gif

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1012288696336273428/1204044818402246728/IMB_UqS9tE.gif

wtf

they dont work

[brisk shoal]

[brisk shoal]

Discord trolling your ahh

[tropic flame]

alright

better

this one is 600kb

[cunning slate]

low quality asf

[tropic flame]

[tropic flame]

think of mobile user

[brisk shoal]

Too fast maybe

[tropic flame]

fit ade more

not priv

Ade needs to be fast to replicate the meme

[nova meadow]

Is the new privaty really good?

[turbid temple]

New Priv bringing Doro Anis downfall

love to see it

[molten anchor]

is sg comp still bad for stormbringer with leona

[tropic flame]

depend. You may hit the wing and accept 0 core hit

[nova meadow]

I got her my first pull

[tropic flame]

only Priv can core hit with her weird gun

[molten anchor]

irl accurate shotgun

[cunning slate]

General team 4 is sw

But this sr not sure if she will be used

[tired inlet]

Mod

A bursting Mod to be exact

With more units to come mod will become a support

[tired inlet]

Tove 9410, Leona 444, PrivM 555 0000

[tropic flame]

water favors?

[tired inlet]

+2 ele

Which one

AHHHH

Fuck u

@cunning slate

Helpppp

Ill go bottom

For more coverage

[cunning slate]

[tired inlet]

I replaced

Im done

3 crit rate lines

[cunning slate]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-memes-cat-images-cat-meme-gif-4644773688486402896

[tired inlet]

5.03 5.03 4.69

14.75 + 12% (Leona) + 30% (Leona) + 15% base + 3% Tove

75%

[brisk shoal]

Damn

[tired inlet]

1 ammo is enough

2 ammo is safer but

@tropic flame

Does PrivM lose stacks of S2 if u reload with resilience

[tropic flame]

of course lmao
Only 2s and you have to shoot 3 shot. Even with Tove + Leona max

1s 2 hit

[tired inlet]

Yes she does lmao

@brisk shoal i take back my words she needs 2 ammo

My Tove only 4

[tropic flame]

[tired inlet]

Mod feels so smooth ngl

Try Mod

[tropic flame]

I love a mod but you will be forced a Quiry/Helm as B3

[tired inlet]

What

Just remove Maiden/Sugar

Just bring one sg dps

Why not

[tropic flame]

hence I suggest Xlud from the very start, don't you remember

[tired inlet]

?

No

Tove Leona PrivM Mod Marci or something

[tired inlet]

:kick:

[tropic flame]

anyway Mod or Xlud will be there. It's better than Shitgar

trust

[latent willow]

I was having a bit of a tough time to think of what other B3 unit to use for mPriv build

[tropic flame]

since you will dismantle Snow Why team this time

throw Helm there

[latent willow]

I tested helm and sugar so far

[tired inlet]

Tove Leona PrivM Mod Guilty

For dps

For non dps

I mean for heals use Marci

Or if only need heal once can use Helm

Or if Pepper is enough use Pepper

@tropic flame u know why 2 ammo is needed

If Tove loses buff right after FB

U lose 6 ammo

Immediately

[tropic flame]

just

retry

like how you retry Snow team

for the 6 crits

[tired inlet]

I mean trading ammo for atk is ok

[tired inlet]

But this is sus

Idk what to do lol

PrivM has 1 hitrate alr

Mod gives 9%

Leona gives 20%

So it reaches 40% already

[tired inlet]

At what hitrate does she start bullying core?

[tropic flame]

base 40% + 20% from Leona should be enough

because she has AR spread

[tired inlet]

Leona 7?

[tropic flame]

that's 17% right?

7

[tired inlet]

Yes

Tove atk spd affect her max hitrate?

[tropic flame]

huh no

[tired inlet]

U sure?

[tired inlet]

It does

The shot is based on the circle radius when u shoot

It immediately expands the moment u fire

So that delay between shot reduces her hitrate

[tropic flame]

oh in that way, yeah

[tired inlet]

Btw Tove S2 10 is worthless

All you get is save 0.0166 per shot

Not even 1 shot of SG

From 4 to 7

4 to 10 u get 1 free shot

Ah yes

The buff that disappears 20% of the time

4 -> 7 = 0.0166s saved per shot
7 -> 10 = 0.0166s saved per shot
In Full Burst, you are expected to shoot 22 times at level 10, 21 times at level 4.

[tropic flame]

yeah

[tired inlet]

Thats wrong

[tropic flame]

[tired inlet]

Hmmm

[tropic flame]

https://tenor.com/view/take-the-damn-pills-telma-hopkins-maybelle-loretta-devine-amelia-mckellan-gif-18561968

[tired inlet]

You only save 0.0166 frame per shot

[tired inlet]

Yes not important

[tropic flame]

lv 2 is 19 shots round down

[tired inlet]

21 -> 20

[tropic flame]

lv 4 is 20

[tired inlet]

5% damage increase

[tropic flame]

lv 10 = 21

[tired inlet]

For 6 levels

[tropic flame]

[tired inlet]

Nah bro

[tropic flame]

just stay lv 4

[tired inlet]

Yes

@brisk shoal

Stop recommending 10 pls

Just 5% damage increase across 6 levels.

Average is 1.3~1.5%.

This is pure bullshit.

[tropic flame]

[tired inlet]

Not to discount the fact that if it disappears in FB

Its useless

[tired inlet]

How about Leona burst

5 is ok right?

How about PrivM?

[tropic flame]

7 PVP

1 PVE

fact

[tired inlet]

7 is ok

[tropic flame]

10 lv = 6% => 10%??

for PVE I don't even want to burst her

if I have Noir in my team

[tired inlet]

Bro just doesnt talk about crit dmg

[tropic flame]

I burst Noir for hit rate

[tired inlet]

No way u use Blanc Noir?

[tropic flame]

"if"

Rogue pls

[tired inlet]

SKILL INVESTMENTS

Tove: 9 / 4 / 10
Leona: 4~7 / 7 / 4~7
PrivM: 10 / 10 / 4~7