Taunt Mechanic

[mystic trout]

This may be true in PVE only, not sure about PVP.

I. Type of taunt
There are currently, 2 types of taunt:

• Taunt as debuff: Applied by Noah S2, Noise S2, Moran S1 etc... They have description as "Affect the enemy(s)"
• Taunt as buff: They have a group named "Attract". Applied on self. Moran burst, Nero burst, Makima S2... have this buff. They have description as "Affect self".

II. How they work?

1. Debuff > Attract:

The rule is simple. If you have a taunt as debuff (Noah S2), it will take priority over taunt as buff (Noah burst) until the debuff expires. Shown in this video

Moran burst but didn't taunt, due to Noah S2 takes priority.

Moran burst taunted, due to Noah purposely not hitting S2

2. Latest Debuff win

• If there are 2 sources of taunt debuff applied, whichever applied later wins. From vid below, Noise and Noah, whoever hits their missile later before Boss attacks will taunt

3. Left buff win

• Buff goes from left to right, so who is more left-ish will be the taunter, doesn't matter if you are Burst I or Burst II

• The same can be applied if your taunt is a result of passive skill and not burst (Ludmilla S2, for example). Moran burst applied first => Moran taunts over Lud

[drifting minnow]

nerd

[mystic trout]

• In this video, we have Tia and Moran. Tia applied her 5 RL taunt first (S2) so she taunted the bomb over Moran (then buff expired, Moran took over the taunt)

[primal egret]

I do believe this applies in PvP as well. Moran's B1 attract took precedence over Noah's B2 attract, but a second later, Noah's S2 debuff stole that targeting.

• @lofty pulsar @quick merlin to cross reference with previous videos and watch out for and possibly confirm with new videos

[quick merlin]

aight

i can send new vids from todays atk

[quick merlin]

nvm it wasnt noah moran ill just send tmr

nvm older vid too much stuff on screen to see whos getting hit or not

will record again on reset + landscape

[mystic trout]

try to fight Red Hood or Alice, you can see the particle lands to decide who is taunting

[quick merlin]

i will later s.anis way too much shit on screen

[lofty pulsar]

So the main point on why both pellets of SAnis are taunted are cuz one is debuff and one is self buff

Two different sources = both pellets are taunted

That's really nice

[mystic trout]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1177116972593463316/1177154730070380594/NIKKE_2023-10-26_12-08-20.mp4?ex=65c48846&is=65b21346&hm=0f986226f325217afff9b071f435a8b3056c18e7883b8b9aa87f49a550159d8b&

both Lud and Nero are taunt buffs

so it's not related to debuff + buff

both buffs can also do

[lofty pulsar]

But both debuffs can't?

Both buffs can since they're still two seperate sources?

[mystic trout]

do you have videos where Noise and Noah both hit Sanis but she still kills other?

due to fail taunt?

[lofty pulsar]

Hmm I'll have to find it

Idk if I do

[quick merlin]

hmm

[mystic trout]

I just deleted all videos in this PC

gotta return PC to company

most of the time, Zombie Sanis will be hit by both. I can record tmr

[mystic trout]

hm so grouping them

Buff type of taunt "Attract" (Nikke will have a buff icon in HUD)

• Tia S2
• Sin S1
• Xmas Rupee Burst
• Rei Burst
• Ludmilla S2
• Delta Burst
• Noah Burst
• Makima S2
• Nero Burst
• Moran Burst
• Red Hood Burst 2
• Diesel Favorite

Debuff type of Taunt (Enemies will have a ! over their heads, and red icon in HUD)

• Anchor S1
• Diesel Burst
• Folkwang S2
• Maiden S2
• Moran S2
• Noah S2
• Noise S2
• Rapi S2
• iDoll Flower Burst

Attract buff will taunt everyone over its duration, doesn't matter if mob is freshly spawned or exist on the field when buff is applied

[reef coyote]

SUMMARY:

• Attract is a buff affecting self, taunting all enemies and usually lasts a long time. Examples are Noah Burst, Ludmilla S2, Tia S2, Makima S2, Moran Burst, and so on. As a side note, Ludmilla's description is incorrect.
• Taunt is a debuff affecting one or multiple enemies and is usually short. Examples are Noah S2, Noise S2, Diesel Burst, and so on.
• When an enemy is affected by Attract and Taunt at the same time, the Taunt takes precedence. After the Taunt debuff disappears, then the enemy will attack the units having Attract (if buff is still present).
• Provocation via Attract prioritizes the earliest buff. If an enemy is affected by two instances of Attract, then whoever applies the first Attract will be attacked. Only after the first Attract disappears will the second Attract provoke (if buff is still present).
• Provocation via Taunt prioritizes the latest debuff. If an enemy is affected by two instances of Taunt, then whoever applies the second Taunt will be attacked. Newer Taunt(s) overwrites older Taunt(s).
• In PvP, especially for SAnis, both of her S2 rays can be redirected toward two different units, if both of them have Attract.
• The buff Attract continually provokes all enemies on screen throughout its duration, even if they were previously off screen when activated.

In conclusion, Attract is technically better.

@boreal atlas in case ure interested

[quick merlin]

Moran Noah - RH prioritizes Noah over Moran

Noise Noah - RH alternating between Noise and Noah after getting hit by full charge taunt

[wise light]

Noah also has taunt on full charge

[mystic trout]

Noise and Noah somewhat can taunt my Sanis

it actually goes Noah and Salt before the lone survivor situation

[quick merlin]

yeah its why RH keeps switching

[quick merlin]

noise full charge taunt either expired or hit s.anis after s.anis s2 went off ?

[mystic trout]

it should go 1 to Noah/Noise, and one to Salt due to debuff takes over the taunt buff

unless, one of them (noise/noah) doesn't affect nearby targets

[quick merlin]

p sure nikkes hit by splash gets taunted

[mystic trout]

hm strange, both Noise and Noah affect all targets hit by their RL with taunts

[quick merlin]

3rd vid, jackal here gets hit by noise splash and hits noise on 2nd shot

[mystic trout]

just verify in shooting range

hmm strange. For some reason, my SAnis never hit Noise with her basic attack once

why did she shoot Noah here

dafuq? This is Rookie Arena

[quick merlin]

hmm all RLs let me check some vids

[mystic trout]

literally first ammo

[quick merlin]

here only Biscuit targets enemy p1 (RH) and the other RLs target either Jackal or Noise

checking some s.anis vids atm

[mystic trout]

hm it seems like, only if Noise + Noah hit Sanis as primary target, they both can soak SAnis S2

splash dmg they can't taunt the S2

again lmao

blanc clearly targets Jackal too

[quick merlin]

hmm

[mystic trout]

hm I'm sure Noise + Noah taunt both Sanis S2

[quick merlin]

6 vids of s.anis, s.anis targets p1 1st shot

as for s2 its p1 + highest atk

no splash but im trying to find if i have it

[mystic trout]

mine. Notice the blooming effect on Noise + Noah when S2 hit

it never explodes on Sanis

ah, probably link killed

my consensus is, both debuff taunts can also taunt Sanis S2

[quick merlin]

hmm

[mystic trout]

but if Noise can't hit Anis, she will aim Noah (Attract on burst) + Scarlet (highest ATK)

[quick merlin]

yeah

same thing w/ vids i recorded

mmmm gonna test later

Moran/Biscuit/Noah/Noise/? against s.anis

gonna see if i can record s.anis s2 hitting noah and noise

[mystic trout]

how the hell she aimed Scarlet here when Noah taunt is still available

and takes triple S2 dmg in return

[quick merlin]

uh send vid

[mystic trout]

ah I think I understand a little bit more on taunt

[quick merlin]

weird

[mystic trout]

before burst: Noah and Noise both hit Sanis, but due to both are debuffs, only one is applied and taunted SAnis. Noah taunted.

After burst: Noah now has a fail-safe which is her own burst buff Attract. Noise also applied her taunt later than Noah, hence overwrote Noah debuff => Taunt landed on both Noise + Noah. The taunt buff still exists, it just has lower priority than debuff

[reef coyote]

What

So different types of Provocation also count?

Taunt + Attract works?

[mystic trout]

Yeah, although i need someone to reproduce that situation with noise + eh, tia then. Rarely found either setup on my bracket

[reef coyote]

Hmmm can u check without Noise Noah

Try Moran Diesel

[mystic trout]

interesting, I will try tomorrow

run out of tix today

actually, will do Lud + Diesel

because Moran may tamper with the test with her S1

[mystic trout]

Lud and Diesel definitely taunted Sanis

I was in full burst so Lud had to be in her taunt mode

[reef coyote]

So 1 attract + 1 taunt/attract

Interesting

Which means Diesel is a good pick

Burst gen might be an issue

@mystic trout moran diesel when

[mystic trout]

Huh

Oh diesel was taunt, not attract

Tmr then, lud + nero

Wait nvm

Rroar did

[mystic trout]

Update: Treasure Diesel is now Attract group, not taunt

[civic ermine]

Watch Quiry not getting RLed, Nero got prio instead of Moran

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[mystic trout]

here

[mystic trout]

just test, it shoots the shit out of my Moran

[civic ermine]

Nah its position

Swap Diesel and Moran

It would go to Diesel now

[mystic trout]

i c

yeah

pos for Buff

[civic ermine]

Not just buff, this one is debuff vs buff

Noah burst is debuff

It went to Noah now compare to your vid where Moran is P1 coz Noah now is at P1

No full charge done

Just burst

[mystic trout]

I don't think you debuff self

[civic ermine]

Ahh so Noah was attract

Guess only buff is position

I thought she was debuff.. ahh lemme check on my not treasure Diesel

Yup position one only applies to buff

It went to Moran on P5

[civic ermine]

@mystic trout ..I don't get buff taunt priority anymore.. went with 3 attract units this time.. RLs targetting left most, okay that is what we expect.. but the SAnis normal attack was hitting Ludmilla.. and her S2 going to Nero and Ludmilla instead of Moran and Nero

Add also the part, on the second FB,they all just focus on Nero now, Lud is not getting attacked by SAnis