[Moran] New Unit Megathread

[hollow wasp]

10/10/10?

Oh I’m blind, don’t mind me

[zinc mural]

Has anyone tried Rapi B1 vs Moran B1 yet?

[cosmic bramble]

U have Moran built?

Can u test vs Liter?

@soft lodge says Liter better

[foggy violet]

For damage ceiling, Liter should be, yeah

I don't have lines on her, but I have skills to 10/10/10, if that works

Give me comps

[distant turret]

which one would be recommended getting the phase 3 first, between moran or priv?

[cosmic bramble]

Hmmm

Anything

Crown RRH SWHA MastM

[foggy violet]

Neutral shooting range?

[cosmic bramble]

Up to u

I just need objective test

[foggy violet]

Oh wait, nvm. I can't test properly cuz I'm not converting doll mats yet

[cosmic bramble]

Kek

[desert cloud]

stage 2 might not be a good test from my end too

[cosmic bramble]

30 vs 40%

[foggy violet]

No

[cosmic bramble]

Not much less

[foggy violet]

Liter isn't Caster's

[cosmic bramble]

Moran is 42%

I alr converted

[foggy violet]

Yeah, which is 28% for an Attacker

[cosmic bramble]

30% with doll

Cube bond

[foggy violet]

Liter gives 80% of Attacker's ATK for 5 seconds, while Moran gives's 28% of Attacker's ATK for 10s

[cosmic bramble]

But her buff also is better for supporter than liter

Drops to 33.2%~

[cosmic bramble]

30%

Doll big buff

And console

Cube

All give static ATK

[foggy violet]

Still lower than Liter's, and that's ignoring units that are frontloaded

Liter's significantly stronger in those cases

Like Helm

[cosmic bramble]

30% vs 40%

[foggy violet]

30% vs 66% for frontloaded

[cosmic bramble]

But Moran doesn't have ramp up

Liter costs 5s+

[foggy violet]

Yeah, but Liter provides more bursts overall with Grave

[cosmic bramble]

S1 buff 14%

[foggy violet]

Oh thanks, I remembered 80% but second guessed

I wasn't crazy

Although that's only from 3rd burst onward

[cosmic bramble]

Liter cdr how much

[foggy violet]

2.34, 5.04, 8.21

As long as gen keeps up (which basically requires Grave), she should squeeze out more, right?

[cosmic bramble]

So 5.14s+2.44 cost without Grave

7.58s

[desert cloud]

isn't she -1 burst

[cosmic bramble]

That's big

Yeah thats why I need test

[desert cloud]

we know shitty rouge or dkw gets more than liter in most cases

[cosmic bramble]

According to Snake, Liter is better than Moran

But it feels wrong

I asked what dps, hes gone

He said fire water wind UR

[desert cloud]

any dps that doesn't do frontload in the first 5 sec

[cosmic bramble]

Grave and Lib Helm involved

So

Skewed

[foggy violet]

Liter is +5.14 after first burst, +2.44 after second, which is +7.58 total, but, over 11 bursts, she cuts downtime by 8.03, meaning Liter should have 0.45s more burst uptime than Moran/Siren/Rapi/Froline assuming 13 bursts

[cosmic bramble]

Ure using RRH B1 anyway

[cosmic bramble]

With Grave*

[foggy violet]

Yeah, which is what I've said in every message

On paper, Liter is faster

[cosmic bramble]

Snake said Liter> Moran

But it feels wrong

[foggy violet]

Is SR next week or week after?

[cosmic bramble]

Then he used skewed units

Lib helmtr grave

[cosmic bramble]

Dunno

[foggy violet]

I guess either way, I'm converting some treasure mats

Not commenting on UR since I'm in the position of usually having to double/triple hit, but, for SR, Liter only goes with Grave in fire-weak

and with Helm only in water weak and maybe iron-weak

[twilit flume]

moran or liter

just finished ch 31 normal

if that means anything

[foggy violet]

• Water-weak SR: Liter/Crown/Helm/X Lud/S Elegg, Liter should win here. Moran would probably replace Siren in seamaids and Siren would replace Rapi in T5
• Fire-weak SR: Liter/Grave/Alice/Rei/Modernia, Liter should win here. Moran probably in T5 if Midsolute gets knocked out.
• Wind-weak SR: Liter/M Mast/SBS/Libby/M Mast, Moran wins here I think? Liberalio has a nuke burst, but that's only a bit of her damage iirc, and Liter actually risks bricking SBS depending on dupe count. Liter can get moved to T4 for Cindy stonks.
• Electric-weak SR: Liter is struggling in T5, and Trina was used last time with Liter. If Trina still used, we can put Moran there and just kick Liter out, letting Moran steal Scarlet's buffs
• Iron-weak SR: Liter in DoT comp with Helm-offburst. Probably better to use Zwei Tr for B Milk burst and Moran as secondary B1 for Raven burst, maybe?

Although if SR is the new boss, it has no pierce vulnerability or core, so not sure how B Milk will even fare. Seems like a boss for Chisato and Julia to shine

[cosmic bramble]

Wind is Siren Nayu Velvet

Fire usew xbrid

[foggy violet]

X Brid is in SG comp

[cosmic bramble]

In UR?

Oh

[foggy violet]

Oh, UR

[foggy violet]

I tend to use teams closer to SR in UR due to multi-hitting

My union's not strong enough to afford me hitting three different bosses

[cosmic bramble]

Im sure Rapipi Xbrid Rei XDiesel Miharabc is best but no burst gen

[foggy violet]

I think Moran > Liter for most people in UR because low synch really struggles with survival

Regardless of which damage ceiling is higher

Like Heavy Metal seriously wrecked some of my union mates in the 400s, even at level 1

but Moran's near permanent taunt, DR, and lifesteal would keep the attackers from getting OHKO'd while allowing face tanking

Liter requires having to pay close attention to attacks (if they even have targeting indicators) and putting specific units into cover the entire fight to survive sometimes

[desert cloud]

imagine if we had moran on only1 raid

[desert cloud]

ok museum coming in clutch for the mats

what are we testing

[zinc mural]

iron boss

[foggy violet]

Wind element boss or wind-weak boss?

[zinc mural]

Moran 10/10/10
ATK 11.81%

[zinc mural]

Oh ,wind-weak boss

[foggy violet]

Helm lost damage, everyone else basically stayed the same, and Moran gained damage over Liter

Were number of bursts even (did you end on the same unit bursting)?

Helm losing damage without Liter's frontloaded buffs makes sense, but just curious

[zinc mural]

I didn't count, I just let it auto.

[foggy violet]

Roger

[near grotto]

iron weak practice range

[foggy violet]

Liter too good with Grave

[twilit flume]

is it looking like privatys gonna win

[desert cloud]

isnt't that more of a grave issue where she makes liter burst with more efficient cdr

and if rrh is b3 that means a team really needs a good cdr

[outer crane]

wait why is she considered so good?

is she not just a cdr healer?

I'm so confused

at least in pve

[desert cloud]

her cdr is at par with rrh and siren

[outer crane]

.... oh

[desert cloud]

she also has a buff in b3, even when its a supporter att% its a decent chunk

around 25-30% attacker attack

[outer crane]

and it means u don't need a healer on that team

[desert cloud]

she taunts life steals and gives 35% damage reduction

[outer crane]

I feel her burst has more impact in pvp than pve

[desert cloud]

dolls give 12/17% dr

with moran you can kinda do healerless runs

in theory at least

[outer crane]

... what teams can even win vs a tmoran team in pvp-

u got sustain, taunt, and dr

and burst gen

[desert cloud]

burstgen um

isn't she an ar

[outer crane]

oh wait

so...

hmmmmmm

anyway

back to pve

[desert cloud]

she looks good on paper ngl

[outer crane]

essencially, by using her, you fill the roll of a really good cdr, a healer, and a very small buffer

[twilit flume]

moran wouldnt be better than liter in high deficit then no?

[desert cloud]

deficit bosses will like running moran

[outer crane]

due to survivability?

[desert cloud]

liter is bad in campaign

[outer crane]

black snake is actually coming up for me

[desert cloud]

due to slow ramp up of the bursts

[twilit flume]

?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

[outer crane]

ah yeah

[twilit flume]

the fuck

[outer crane]

i usually just use siren in campaign

due to the focus fire

[twilit flume]

burst gen? or is this a different concept

[desert cloud]

liter starts off with low cdr

and ramps it up per burst

so your 2nd and 3rd bursts are delayed

which is slow when you consider you burst a few times due to low timer

[outer crane]

at least for me... I feel like moran's use is just for SR as an additional cdr

especially if the boss needs healing

i don't see myself using her in campaign ngl

[desert cloud]

now imagine snake

[outer crane]

siren's focus fire is really nice

[desert cloud]

but you have moran

[twilit flume]

oh wow........

[outer crane]

... that is coming up-

[twilit flume]

who else other than siren tho

[outer crane]

I was planning on just using the maid duo ngl

I mean

[twilit flume]

so 2nd and 3rd bursts are noticeably slow because liters cdr isnt as effective. but on the other hand liter buffs more than moran

[outer crane]

I can build her whenever I need

I have LB2 moran

so it's not as if I'm skipping her

just not building yet

[desert cloud]

for sure moran is better in the first half of the run

[twilit flume]

realistically what b1 is better in campaign than liter other than siren? pyrden says liter is 2nd best other than siren ofc

[desert cloud]

rrh

dkw,rouge

[twilit flume]

well rrh is ran as b3 in campaign

[desert cloud]

tough you need to count shots

[outer crane]

my mose likely use for moran is probably just SR for bosses that really hurt

[twilit flume]

rogue?

[outer crane]

even tho idc about electric, she's good in neutral I presume

[desert cloud]

we yet to see tbh but you know this cdr feels good on paper

next sr in the corner, whales gonna show if she is good ngl

but we might see more zweitr first because its an iron sr

[twilit flume]

im so confused @desert cloud

so on paper liter is faster but in gameplay moran is

[desert cloud]

after the 3rd fb liter has the highest cdr in the game

[outer crane]

tbh

[desert cloud]

but unless you run grave or something similar to that level of burstgen, you realistically can't reach the cdr with liter

[outer crane]

I'm just concerned due to the fact she's treasure

that's quite expensive

[outer crane]

yeah that's also what I was worried about

most teams I use probably cannot burst fast enough to make use

I'll wait for whale testing in SR

cause that's where i plan to use her

[twilit flume]

swha has extremely fast burst gen and in high deficit u can get to doing 3 fbs pretty easily

but also, in high deficit if u get the 3 fbs someone on ur team is likely dead atp

so morans defense is a factor

[keen matrix]

I gonna wait 3 days to get Moran T3

Mfw the best effect is locked behind that

[plucky shell]

if anyone wants to know moran gaps rouge in elec team

by alot too

not just a small amount

do have to invest into her dmg since she does damage in that team, if anyone cares about full elec team for ur or even in raids

only 50 ele moran

not mine but rouge only buffs hp units

moran gives attack on burst

and rouge ideally should be next to maiden also she should do more than anis but that's investments difference between others

[slender estuary]

xmaiden also scales with hp

so it's generally better to have xmaiden beside rouge

[vestal echo]

wht about ATk

[plucky shell]

50/20

most likely c7 also

[hearty canyon]

Seems like I bricked myself by using most of my resources and mat kits on zwei treasure instead of Moran

[ionic cairn]

Rouge gives HP to all. The side characters get 6.65% Attack Damage and 15% reduced damage taken.

[desert cloud]

■ Activates when using Burst Skill for 5 time(s). Affects all allies when in Shield Coin status.
Double Sword Coin: Max HP ▲ 15.08% of caster's Max HP continuously.

[slender estuary]

yeah it's the S2 that gives even more hp to people beside rouge

[slender estuary]

why didn't you go privaty at least

zwei is good but I think you still need to make full use of her niche of both pierce and high crit rate

[hearty canyon]

I already did

[slender estuary]

oh then I don't think you're that fucked

did you do all of the new museum hall 2 shit yet?

[hearty canyon]

It's simply that I didn't realize how good moran is, after I read the treasure skillset description

[hearty canyon]

Yeah, I also did that

[slender estuary]

ah then gotta wait for SR

ngl moran CDR B1 is so comfy as fuck

[hearty canyon]

Yep that's what I'm thinking too

[ionic cairn]

Are you disagreeing with me or just clarifying? It says "Affects all allies."

[plucky shell]

shield coin are for the allies that are next to her only

so 2 units max

[ionic cairn]

■ Activates when assigned to the back row in battle. Affects self and 2 allies on both sides.
Sword Coin: Attack Damage ▲ 6.65% continuously.
■ Activates when attacking with Full Charge for 30 time(s). Affects self and 2 allies on both sides when in Sword Coin status.
Shield Coin: Damage Taken ▼15.2% continuously.
■ Activates when using Burst Skill for 5 time(s). Affects all allies when in Shield Coin status.
Double Sword Coin: Max HP ▲ 15.08% of caster's Max HP continuously.

When she is in shield coin status it gives max HP to all allies. Different wording than previous effects. I'll go test it

Everyone gets the max HP. Only fighting over 7% damage

[plucky shell]

she's nearly a 1 year+ nikke think we all know how she works by now , all of her s2 is only for 2 allies

yes max hp is from her burst

not s2

not sure if ur reading what we're typing here

[plucky shell]

^ was said earlier

[slender estuary]

Read the S2

thanks

[ionic cairn]

Affects self and 2 allies on both sides when in Sword Coin status. on both sides when in Sword Coin status.
Affects all allies when in Shield Coin status.
Think about why those are different. Or test it yourself. Whatever, less competition for me.

[foggy violet]

Yeah, Double Sword Coin buff affects all allies because the Sword Coin bonus needs only to be on Rouge for it to activate

[vestal echo]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1174941236205994056/1463371058609520784/image.png?ex=698fe880&is=698e9700&hm=daa44060cf21dde851901958bbba68cc87478e9703411777c8290be951370e41&

It's already been tested that Rouge next to Maiden gives more damage overall

compared to next to Sanis for that 5% Damage

[foggy violet]

Depends on investment

[vestal echo]

ingeneral

more damage over all

[foggy violet]

I've always gotten more damage with S Anis by Rouge because C7 vs MLB and 95/50 vs 80/30

Isn't B Ade > Mari or is that old screenshot?

[vestal echo]

Mari gives faster Burst gen

so the extrea burst matters here

[foggy violet]

Ah, just noticed boss, yeah

That makes sense

[sick kelp]

How many cores does Rouge have?

[ionic cairn]

Manual Rouge should solve all burst gen issues, might need a roll or two of ammo OL

[cosmic bramble]

Very very very

[vestal echo]

Please try Manualling Rouge against Whale

[twilit flume]

as in very better? 💀

[near grotto]

very

[raven oak]

Moran only high deficit downside is risking death first and not having siren stun

[cosmic bramble]

He compared her to Liter

[raven oak]

No chance

[cosmic bramble]

Please convince Moran is SSS.

Snake*

[dawn mango]

Moran is 7/10/7 with max treasure

water weak shooting range

honestly when she’s 7/10/10 might be able to match

[near grotto]

only diff is b1 themself

[desert cloud]

so she is rrh level but with teamwide protection

[dawn mango]

yea

[desert cloud]

thats kinda insane on paper

[dawn mango]

but with 10/10/10 she might honestly get very close even dmg wise without constant core

cause my moran rolls are also shit for bricks

and not 5/5/5/5 gear

so honestly

she’s kinda insane

i could 10/10/10 her but then my mats are kinda fucked

ig for elements you don’t main now tho neutral rapi b3 will still be better

also for dps sake my rapi is core 2 vs mlb moran

lowkey might actually spent some of my silver ticket stockpile on this treasure wave

ill test her vs siren but switch priv to a not ammo dependent dps since sdoro would benefit too much from siren reload

lowkey should test on a better boss cause blacksmith is gimicky as fuck but here

[desert cloud]

moran taunt might grief in bs idk

[dawn mango]

kinda cause she gets stunned

siren was able to burst consistently even with crown stun to delay

so less cycles

ill test on ultra later

better to test there too since it puts some survivability in the equation

[raven oak]

https://youtu.be/zDjtYII2pko moran make tank wheel=peak
Will try 37-35 soon

[dawn mango]

again its just B1 dps diff

which means its just investment diff

[exotic fable]

moran got me through ziz at 581

wasn't even close really

after I realized I could eat the nukes easily if I just break 1 part

saw one clear at 547 sync same comp too

[cursive notch]

I just realised I dont even have a copy of moran

Should I get her with mileage

Have 600+ golden mileages rn

[near grotto]

dude never ever use gold mileage for some treasure dups

use the silver one

[foggy violet]

They don't have the character

You can only get spares with silver

Still have to use gold to grab the first copy

Really depends on what your objectives are in Nikke

[near grotto]

[foggy violet]

If you have the other CDR units, then you can still top 3% even without Moran

In that regard, there's no need to spend mileage; just pray for spook or wishlist to work

If you're looking to be super competitive, then it might be worthwhile

Either way, you have until the next treasures come out to think about it

There's someone in my union who's never pulled Privaty before despite starting at 0.5 anni

Only reason he has her is because of the free copy we got

[cursive notch]

Wishlist the biggest scam ever

[cursive notch]

? 😭

[foggy violet]

Yeah, LB0 Privaty after playing the game for 2.5 years

and she's in his wishlist, too

[cursive notch]

I’m just chasing the meta since I don’t have crown after playing for 1-2 years

[foggy violet]

Thankfully at least with the free copy SU gave us, he was able to just 400 mileage her for treasure

Actually wait

[cursive notch]

So I’m just getting all the meta so I can keep up

[foggy violet]

Have you used your NY selector?

[cursive notch]

Yes

[foggy violet]

Ahh

[cursive notch]

Used it to get mmast cuz I couldn’t get her on her banner

[foggy violet]

And ouch, Crownless life is a rough one

[cursive notch]

And wishlist never works

[foggy violet]

I feel ya there. I had Milk on my wishlist since I started (Day 6 player) and only got her to LB2 like two months after her treasure came out

[near grotto]

how does your wish list looks like?

[foggy violet]

Not that she's useful, but I wanted the burst lobby

[near grotto]

[cursive notch]

Cooked 💀

Missilis loves me I think

Most of the time I get missilis dupes as you can see from the ss

[exotic fable]

this is why I almost never skip standard banner units

unless they're complete dogshit like K

[pastel agate]

do u need ammo on her?

[foggy violet]

Nothing in her kit demands it, and she has infinite ammo on burst

[pastel agate]

lol my fault

[foggy violet]

Would be like putting ammo on Grave and Nayuta

[pastel agate]

ele atk it is

[foggy violet]

Crit rolls for 12/12 probably

Don't think it's worth tho unless electric god

[pastel agate]

im dry af for rocks, so ill just settle

[foggy violet]

We all are

[pastel agate]

both accs have high ele but no atk

[slender estuary]

that's more than enough

honestly shouldn't be burning rocks on moran

[ocean marlin]

Moran huh

[plucky shell]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqGv40xXTFA

[plucky shell]

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FxTwitter · Feb 14, 2026, 1:21 AM

91/30 moran

idk why bro used low burst gen team with her

[nova dawn]

Not the first time people use teams that gen with hopes and prayers to try new units

I recall some1 tried to test label vs liter with crown eve rapi shelm as the team

[plucky shell]

yes

that had to be the dumbest test I've seen recently, but label's burst is same as mana, not good enough still

liter with no gen on the team

is so wild, like what are we doing there

[cursive notch]

I used the NY selector for mmast

And I meant I don’t have moran, not even a single copy, so I can’t use the silver mileage selector

[wispy viper]

@nova dawn any comparision Moran vs Rouge?

@foggy violet

[lethal ravine]

Like this? #1194930204511055952 message

[foggy violet]

Sorry, I'm not rushing her phases until solo raid

[wispy viper]

[versed spoke]

defender + taunt really useful for bs in museum, no more stun high core dps

[fringe phoenix]

What’s Moran fire rate during her change of weapon? 20 like smg?

[foggy violet]

24 without FPS lock

[solar shuttle]

So bullet count lock while helping phone user is still worse than PC I see.

[fringe phoenix]

The min firing round?

[unkempt ravine]

Huh real?

[solar shuttle]

idk, just based on that reply. But PC has more advantages and dmg than mobiles still.

[desert cloud]

according to tests only mg loses ammo on the lock

54 instead of 60

[fair flare]

Moran 7/10/10

[outer crane]

7/10/10 moran or 3x10?

[ocean marlin]

4/10/10 even

Skill one is said to suck

[pale beacon]

https://youtu.be/xF_oLbbLHzY

[nova dawn]

i cant read

[ocean marlin]

I can't Chinese

[foggy violet]

That's Japanese

Across the top: Campaign | Union Raid | Solo Raid | Arena
Down the Left: Highest Priority | Good to Get | Has a Use | Practically No Use | No Use

Special notes for Centi are just watching out for how their treasures affect their PvP performance

[solar shuttle]

Then don't rate it 8

[winter furnace]

the 2026 new year SSR selector saved me from having to ticket moran

[foggy violet]

But once Phase 2, Centi is an 8

That's the point

You have to be careful about the timing of giving her the treasure, because Phase 1 is actually a downgrade since, without the healing from Phase 2, you just help the enemy

[solar shuttle]

Da heck.

[solar shuttle]

No Jesus, phase 1 doesn't change anything except more shield after half the fight in and everyone already burst.

[foggy violet]

So basically leave her at SR15 until you have 50 of her treasure mat

[solar shuttle]

Phase 2 is what triggers the extra burst gen.

By open shield at the beginning of the fight.

It also give heal

So 1 good + 1 bad make it zero

Not Eight.

Keripo and others even said it's minus.

[foggy violet]

Wait, the shield isn't forced on at beginning without treasure?

I honestly don't remember Centi's OG kit

[solar shuttle]

Yes, this is the first treasure that makes the unit worse.

SU sure can cook

[foggy violet]

Viper arguably did as well

Lemme actually check the Centi part of the video rq cuz he uses the same wording as with Viper

[solar shuttle]

Viper reenter is actually used more in CA than not.

Now, after Nayuta

[foggy violet]

And Centi is actually a good low-level player PvE unit now with her treasure, so there's that

Sacrifice PvP performance for PvE safety

[solar shuttle]

It's 2026, a unit that can only heal won't be used.

[raven oak]

Moran does better at that if you're getting a treasure this early

[foggy violet]

If you look at top 50, correct

Note I said low-level

Mari was highly used by top 50 for a while but was barely used for low level players because most players can't run zero healing

[solar shuttle]

They should give us this treasure on the very first batch, when Naga is still kinda meta

[solar shuttle]

HelmT exist.

[foggy violet]

Five teams

[winter furnace]

how much investment does moran need? OL?

[foggy violet]

Also, for PESU MY's video, it is in fact for campaign use that he rates Centi highly

[raven oak]

Skills and base ol

[foggy violet]

For PvP, he says to be careful about raising her to Phase 2; best to wait and see how she plays out

[nova dawn]

if ur missing units i can see it

[raven oak]

....... Bruh

[winter furnace]

moran or privaty first?

[nova dawn]

but having 3 copy of centi when ur missing units

[raven oak]

You have to be missing a lot of units to get there

[nova dawn]

is a little sus

[foggy violet]

PESY MY focuses videos towards lower-level players, not meta slaves

[foggy violet]

Not really?

[nova dawn]

ive seen enough accounts with literally no flex slot

[foggy violet]

You have to have 4 copies of 5 units to break 160 wall

If Centi is one of your first

ez

[nova dawn]

sure but u also likely have something that can be flex slot

priv/helm

[foggy violet]

No way to guarantee Helm

[nova dawn]

helm is most garenteed atm

[raven oak]

Isn't moran just better in every campaign situation even at low lvl

[foggy violet]

Helm is impossible to guarantee atm

[raven oak]

And helmT is almost certain to cover heals

[nova dawn]

u literally get her

for pulling

100%

[foggy violet]

Oh right, forgot they added her there

[nova dawn]

priv gives u 1 copy for free

[raven oak]

There is 0 reason to treasure centi for campaign

[foggy violet]

Helm doesn't cover shielding at the beginning of stage

That's a reason

[raven oak]

Unless no moranT

Pretty much

[nova dawn]

yea but as a new player

[raven oak]

Doing more damage can subvert centi entire use if no farters

[nova dawn]

i would rather have helm invested

than a centi

[foggy violet]

this should be in Centi thread anyway

[raven oak]

Tru

[nova dawn]

or a priv with treasure

with both being garenteed now

[foggy violet]

I have a union mate with LB0 Priv still

Well, just fixed with silver mileage

[raven oak]

She's literally in mileage shop

[nova dawn]

time to burn those silver milage

[foggy violet]

Yeah, he did

[nova dawn]

im considering c7 priv

[foggy violet]

I have another union mate who spends all silver mileage on freebie unit cores, so RIP

[raven oak]

Worthwhile for water bossing but doesn't boost her supporting I'm also worried it bricks some neutral miranda setups

Like nayuta miranda

[nova dawn]

dw my nayu miranda is already bricked

🙂

[raven oak]

[solar shuttle]

I can see how a shield at the begin is desirable. I just clear 40-29 yesterday

[raven oak]

To be fair some people don't have the capacity to reroll the stages with the pre charged mobs

[solar shuttle]

What's reroll?

[raven oak]

X stage has 6 pré charged crawlers, 3 of them shoot before you get burst up, cover all + good rng can live
Good rng being no one dies

Bad rng being your bgen dies or someone gets shit after cover break

[solar shuttle]

[nova dawn]

im generally not a fan of a unit that only offers healing/shield personally

me damage meathead me hit hard

me hit fast

[raven oak]

Neither am I, it's like better than nothing type situation

[foggy violet]

Yeah, I respect that opinion, but, leading a union with several players that play casually, they'd rather have a unit that lets them not have to worry about micro-managing switching between units to take cover individually and just be able to face-tank the boss the entire run

[raven oak]

MoranT

[foggy violet]

Like yeah, Rouge/Mari is higher damage ceiling than Rouge/Blanc, but Rouge/Blanc is FA and grab a drink

[foggy violet]

5 teams

(speaking raids now, sorry)

If only going for top 3%, it's perfectly possible to just go for comfortable comps

[raven oak]

That's true

[foggy violet]

Centi > Grave is high burst gen with extreme safety

[solar shuttle]

Moran
HelmT
Rouge
Crown
Nayuta

[foggy violet]

Crown isn't a healer

[raven oak]

MoranT
Helmt
Maiduo
Nayuta
Crown
Damn that's 5

[foggy violet]

Crown isn't a healer

[solar shuttle]

Maid duo
Bunny Alice

[foggy violet]

Bunny Alice doesn't provide damage either

[raven oak]

She's not but she makes the team solo live with almost 0 micromanage

[foggy violet]

Go fight Wind Bringer with just Crown and no healing

[solar shuttle]

She provide some Ammo at least

[foggy violet]

True, but you could fit another B3 instead

[raven oak]

I thought casual wouldn't go fighting storm Bringer no limit

[foggy violet]

I mean Challenge mode

[raven oak]

Man, maybe but that's like so specific

[foggy violet]

Yeah, but it's a reason, and I was given no reason as an argument

[raven oak]

True

[foggy violet]

She's a better unit to get as a treasure than Frima

[solar shuttle]

What challenge mode?

[foggy violet]

... the 400 cap one you have to do to unlock No Limit mode

[raven oak]

Storm Bringer museum

[solar shuttle]

The one where you need only 6.6b to clear?

[raven oak]

Can't you do it with 3 teams anyway

2 if you're well invesyed

Hey I won't judge a newbie

[foggy violet]

Yeah, ideally should only take 3 teams

Just helped a weaker union mate clear Challenge with 5 teams

[solar shuttle]

Treasure Centi to earn back some little treasure mats isn't very wise

[foggy violet]

Just to be clear, I'm not agreeing with PESU MY's 8 rating I just see where she could be beneficial

I think Centi has way more PvE use-cases than Frima, Bay, Poli, and Milk

[raven oak]

That she does

[foggy violet]

PESU MY's content focuses on lower-level players, so he's highlighting those kinds of points

His raid comps are the same way; he makes top 3%-capable comps that would make top 50 players cringe, then he himself runs different comps for his own scores

[winter furnace]

how come I can't use the tove treasure maint item to exchange for moran's?

[foggy violet]

This is the dude who made a guide on clearing Chatterbox SI using 4 SR units and Laplace

[foggy violet]

Do you have her to Phase 3?

[raven oak]

You didn't max out her treasure yet?

[winter furnace]

no i don't have her SR doll yet either

the only treasure i have done is helm

[raven oak]

That's why

[winter furnace]

oh

i was gonna do tove but i didn't have any maint kit stuff at the time

[pale beacon]

You can only use leftovers after they have reached phase 3 already

[winter furnace]

should i do tove treasure? is it worth?

[pale beacon]

I know , stupid SU, you will not make me treasure milk or frima for those mats

[raven oak]

For solo raid yes if you can form shotgun team

[winter furnace]

i do have sdoro

[foggy violet]

Tove is one of the most future-proofed units in the game

so definitely worth

Unless they make a unit that directly replaces her kit-wise, she only gets better the more SG units we get

[faint prairie]

Wdym. Just run 2 SG teams

[winter furnace]

damn tove kinda cute

[foggy violet]

Iron and wind aren't looking great right now, but S Doro is one of the strongest water units, Isabel is currently our T2 in electric, and Drake, due to her support functions, is a safe investment and pairs well with S Doro for fire raids

Plus yeah, Tove is cute

Fun fact: The JP voice for Tove is also the voice of Takina in the collab

[raven oak]

Cool (I play en)

Collab got no en voice rip

[foggy violet]

Although, I'd actually say don't worry about rushing Phase 3

Moran/Privaty phase 3 is higher priority

iirc, Tove phase 3 is like a 7% crit buff for the team

[solar shuttle]

Soline is a healer btw.

[foggy violet]

Not a good one, but she is, yes

Soline isn't run with Crown tho

[raven oak]

He has 500 of those mats
I'd rush phase 3 tove

[foggy violet]

Oh

Yeah, definitely get phase 3 and unlock those mats

I hadn't actually looked at the image

[winter furnace]

i had enough to get to phase 3

now i'm just waiting for dispatch missions

[vestal echo]

50 items is just 17 days

[vestal echo]

"But she removes Tove's RNG! "

[compact eagle]

What OL slots does Moron want anyways post-favorite item?

[vestal echo]

Atkx4 EDx4
NO Ammo

[compact eagle]

Good to know. The rest could be filler slots for power padding?

I wonder how much does she improve the Tetra team in tower.

[foggy violet]

Gives more reliable cdr than Rouge in a fast-burst comp

The phase 3 DR will help prevent units from getting OHKO'd in high CP deficits

Only big downside would be that, if you're using Blanc, you're still stuck with Rouge (unless you use Noir)

but if you're using B Ade, then no issue

[compact eagle]

I already use B. Ade anyways.

[foggy violet]

Honestly, for overall use, I actually think Moran at Phase 3 can be considered the strongest B1

[compact eagle]

B. Milk and Alice already do a crapload of damage in tetra tower too, so something like Moran will be very nice.

Hard to believe someone is stronger than the Nikke that can allow you to focus fire outside of burst.

[foggy violet]

Yeah, Siren's unique mechanic still can give her an edge depending on the fight for sure

Ignoring that aspect tho, Moran's kit itself is much more flexible, and her personal damage isn't team-comp reliant like Siren's is

[compact eagle]

Yeah so theoretically, hard mode will be a lot easier with Moran.

And then there's Centi...who from what I heard, her favorite item somehow made her worse in PvP.

[raven oak]

Anyone tested this but with privT?

[lethal ravine]

Liter bricks priv so moran priv comp beats helm

[dawn mango]

i dont have s elegg but

last one was helm bursting over priv since siren reload

[meager slate]

Pardon my ignorance here but why does Liter's kit brick privaty?

[gentle scaffold]

Increase max ammo on a unit that doesn't want ammo

[atomic oasis]

def barely matters

go crit

[vestal echo]

4Def
4 Ammo
4 hitrate

[slender estuary]

[thick bear]

you mean
4 charge speed
4 charge damage
4 crit chance

[plucky shell]

all of pve yes, but some testing, you'll need to roll dps lines for her to be better in elec team

100%

rouge should just be a off burst b1 from now on

maybe not in elec raids since her bursting has use

ye

yeah need p3

[foggy violet]

Phase 2 is all you need for her to be functional (phase 1 is 40→20s cd, phase 2 is cdr, phase 3 is buffs). Phase 3 just is what makes her compete with the big shots

Note for all considering rushing the phases: Remember that solo raid gives treasure mats! Hold off on rushing right now unless you want to do testing, as every treasure mat you get from solo raid will save you the cost of 5 old treasure mats! Converting now and getting excess during solo raid actually yields you net loss!!

If we had a union raid rn, then I could see rushing, but there's basically nothing happening until SR

And we need to stockpile 3200 excess treasure mats to be able to Phase 3 rush four treasures, so that should be the ultimate goal

Yup. I'm still only at 1800ish even having done the museum runs already

Thankfully only two treasures worth rushing atm

Zwei's kit looks good, but if Altruia is the SR boss, Zwei will be useless this time

Iron

Chisato is the feature

She potentially is

She's a better off-burst than M Mast

For top 3% goers, she's not worth rushing

Only for the top 50 folks

Moran is top priority without question

Her team survivability will help even casual players push campaign more easily

Nah, she'll probably just get pushed down

SBS/Lib wouldn't take Velvet for SR

since they're with seamaids

Siren's in Crown comp

so it's Delta that's dying

For UR tho, yeah, M Mast will see a lot less use

I think M Mast > Privaty for electric SR as well

because Privaty ammo half mechanic is actually really bad for Cindy

S Anis moved to another team cuz we don't have enough good electric

She's never with Cindy in SR

Rouge probably knocked out of T1 and moved to T4 to kill DKW

since Exia will buff Rouge

Replace Jill with next electric SR feature

Actually

I wonder if Rouge will move down and Exia moved to T5 with Froline

Because Privaty in T4 with S Anis might be stronger

<New Unit>/Rouge/S Anis/Mari/Privaty

Chisato is actually okay for a collab unit imo

I don't like collab DPS units being hard meta

Takina tho. I don't even know what that kit's supposed to be

Chisato gonna outdamage RH, SW, and B Milk this SR

No pierce or core

[peak inlet]

Dumb af kit that you might have to time your burst just to match that s2 timing

[foggy violet]

Only pierce timing is DEF buff timing

Raven, Julia, Chisato, Eve MVPs

? Iron-weak

I was only discussing electric-weak raid cuz of the Moran vs Rouge question

Yeah, gonna be a raid of neutral comps for most people probably

Who has invested Julia?

[peak inlet]

Juwho?

[foggy violet]

SWHA gonna replace SW in her own element

He deserves it

[thick bear]

btw if you’re gonna bench rouge for moran, check if your bade has 10+ ammo

you also probably need to sacrifice bade losing stacks once in a while

because relying on her solely for burst gen comes with that risk

[desert cloud]

I wonder if bade losing stacks is worse or xmaiden missng fc hits for the burst gen

[thick bear]

xmaiden is worse

xmaiden needs to build up a lot of stacks to maintain the hp buff

like 90 shots iirc

[desert cloud]

should be 60

and you need it when you want to burst on her right

should be doable in 3 mins

[cosmic bramble]

Different teams.

Her team doesnt use BAde in SR.

It's likely Moran Trina/Ade Cindy SAnis XMaiden

[thick bear]

we talking about UR here

[south obsidian]

how good is Moran DPS? worth rolling?

like say compared to an XBrid

[plucky shell]

For elec weakness yes

[south obsidian]

of course

thanks

[plucky shell]

From skys testing if i remember she has 80 ele and triple 10s

uh maybe just s1 lvl 7

[cosmic bramble]

Yes. Yes.

[plucky shell]

Which is more personal dmg

[cosmic bramble]

Actually

Yes. No.

Thing is

Why

U will feel difference for sure but focus on DPS first

[south obsidian]

my real question actually is
is it worth tracking my union's Moran OLs for UR

[cosmic bramble]

For electric weak, her OL does matter more

[plucky shell]

If ppl care for union raid then yes she’s bis over rouge now

[cosmic bramble]

Esp since Moran Trina comp BEATS scarlet

LMAO

[thick bear]

maybe not now where the patch is still very new. but when we know the UR bosses, sure. just in case the electric boss is a brick wall

[fair flare]

Scarlet/trina was such a failure last raid given the investment.. think my isabel/arcana doubled their score

If moran/trina is better i wonder if Scarlet gets chucked in with anis/privaty or just benched

[thick bear]

depends on the power level of the unit shilling the SR boss

[cosmic bramble]

Benched

Or used there with SAnis Priv

Altho im sure XMaiden SAnis Cindy is BiS there or Scar SAnis XMaid

[ocean marlin]

Moran for campaign

Lmao trina/moran . Bow that's some good cooking

Peak

[fair flare]

So trina and moran comp what else should be with them? That wouldnt be used in other teams (electrix sr)?

[ocean marlin]

Ummmm

Trina moran and ummm

[foggy violet]

I honestly think Moran's going to be with Cindy

Trina just dead

[twilit flume]

do i use my new years selector on moran

[ocean marlin]

Vesti

[fickle zinc]

I'd say save it until u need it cuz it looks like it just starting out

[foggy violet]

VestiTU will drastically help your ability to push campaign

Moran needs LB2 for the treasure, so unless you're able/willing to toss 400 silver mileage at her, she might not be the best option

[twilit flume]

im already clearing at 40% deficit

[lethal ravine]

Vesti can clear at 49.9% which is the cap for stat penalty at 90%

[atomic oasis]

can clear higher

52% I think

Klo did it

[lethal ravine]

Yea after 49.9 tho stat penalty is the same i think, just enemy stats r higher relative to u

Might b wrong tho

[atomic oasis]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zL5zwkww0BA

55%

it's 90% stat reduction

after 49.9%

he just stacks buffs to compensate that and delivers with true damage

[lethal ravine]

49.91% specifically i should've said that

[atomic oasis]

the first one I know was onii chan

he used stall strat on Defense line

very cleaver, but it's still stalling

this time, Klo brute forced a normal stage with true damage

which explains why SU can not go too much on true damage, because it will create these situations

a SS - SSS tier true damage DPS means she can kill any bosses in campaign even off ele

[lethal ravine]

Do we know approximate enemy defense in normal stages? Feel like at that deficit true damage is basically a 100% atk up

[atomic oasis]

roughly

more

around 120% 130% iirc

we used to have stat on stage, but Lorax abandoned that file I think

[twilit flume]

my current team is liter nayuta mmaat rapipi and swha

u sure its worth getting vesti and spending all my resources on vesti

#pve-team-building

[plucky shell]

jp lowest snake clear

[full gale]

To be fair, most Fire bosses got mogged after SWHA got released

[plucky shell]

this boss isn't just about dmg gotta survive the aoe

don't need anchor anymore depends if u can still survive or not

[nova dawn]

I wonder if we will get a priv helm and Moran tanks heads

[plucky shell]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1MrcHzZEwd/

[plucky shell]

idk if priv has enough dmg to clear compared to sw with this

well this vid cleared with 30s left

lol

[nova dawn]

if u tank the heads u get extra uptme right cuz he spends less time doing dumb stuff

asuming ur moran can live the dmg

[plucky shell]

I'm not too sure only seeing this clear now

[nova dawn]

save on fogwall timing, save on hitting head timing

iirc thats how rouge lud strat worked

[foggy violet]

Vesti vs Moran probably comes down to whether more difficulty is experienced vs mobs or bosses

Also if you have 400 silver mileage to spend

[compact eagle]

I wonder if I can start getting away with using Moran at phase 2.

[dawn mango]

opinions on spending silver mileage for dupes on mlb moran

[sick kelp]

https://tenor.com/view/he-cant-keep-getting-away-with-it-gif-19335672

[thick bear]

what else are you using the silver mileage for

[dawn mango]

saving for potential other treasure units

[nova dawn]

Saving for nikke2

[gentle scaffold]

C7 moran by the end of the 6 month cycle

[primal quiver]

You can. I already did. By phase 2, she still somewhat loses to Rouge but gains never having to worry about firing shots to trigger CD reduction and already can tank

[solar shuttle]

I used Moran phase 2 to clear snake.

[primal quiver]

A good tank is so nice, it’s like Diesel became hotter and switched to B1

[solar shuttle]

I have her p3 now though

[solar shuttle]

Diesel doesn't give team wide Dr

[solar shuttle]

Doubt, you could be 49.9% deficit at 600 and 60% deficit at 650

[lethal ravine]

i mean the stat penalty is capped at 90%

so if u go higher deficit ur stats arent lowered further

[topaz path]

moran doesnt want ammo right

[static patio]

Na

[opal elbow]

Avoid ammo substats if got the time for her?

[vestal echo]

yea

[thick bear]

if you get it incidentally with ele+atk, it's fine

the last bullet taunt is kinda nice to have but not something you need to spend rocks on

[gentle scaffold]

Does it actually matter? If u're using her u're most likely just gonna be bursting with her in which case she has infinite ammo and taunts anyway, and u'll very likely just enter the next fb before she can empty her gun

[slender estuary]

it only matters in pvp

but in pve it absolutely does not matter

like penguin said infinite ammo during burst

your full burst downtime should be a MAX of 5 secs

you're guaranteed a taunt on burst anyways

[exotic fable]

There might be a world where you use a diff b1 like rh and rely on last bullet taunt to sac unit from snipers

[thick bear]

it’s nice to have in situations where there’s a boss that applies single target debuff that you want to avoid getting applied to your dps/other units

but again, not something you spend rocks on

things like laitance’s cs debuff

[plucky shell]

https://youtu.be/dqLA3T77aD0

561 clear with moran

all c3s

[ocean marlin]

Damn I kinda regret pushing privaty phase 2 inestad of moran 3 now

[atomic oasis]

then do new museum

it gives enough mats to phase 3 1 treasure

[foggy violet]

No it doesn't

480 divided by 5 is 96

[atomic oasis]

not like you have exactly for just p2

[foggy violet]

most of my accounts don't even have that cuz they can't use some the excess treasure mats from past units

470 mats for Bay, but Bay's LB1

[vestal echo]

tfw not buying Bay's dupes with 200 silver mileage each

[foggy violet]

Yeah, I forgot. I don't use her, so

[ocean marlin]

I did

[ocean marlin]

Moran ss campaign or sss

[plucky shell]

lowest snake is with moran now sss for bosses like this sure but overall only ss imo

[solar shuttle]

she also great against Ball and some other mobs. If she is SS so is Siren

[charred fable]

You can use Moran instead of M.Anchor against Zizi

really good for Campaign too

[near grotto]

m.anchor omega power creeped

Sent to the basement ig

[atomic iron]

does nayuta heal share reduce moran self healing if everyone else is full hp?

[nova dawn]

it should

because rem's does

[atomic iron]

nooooo

my brain off campaign comp

passive cleave passive heal

[exotic fable]

Just burst with helmt

Then add in vesti

[gentle scaffold]

Around this amount of cp, u can survive 40-36 ziz nuke with moranT lv 10 burst
Without tempering cube

[strange latch]

MAnchor for the extra HP to deal with the nuke?

[charred fable]

yeah M.Anchor is/(at least was) BIS against Black Sneak and Zizi

[nova dawn]

Manchor u will run into enrage

[atomic iron]

Just do more damage

[nova dawn]

U do more damage by dropping manchor

[atomic iron]

but i want to look at her

shoes

[near grotto]

[plucky shell]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvlujc1yAZA

[atomic oasis]

not using goathara

such heresy

[foggy violet]

I don't think I used Mihara on any of my Ziz clears

[atomic oasis]

anchor user

[foggy violet]

[atomic oasis]

wait, I still use Goathara too

with Pira in B1

[plucky shell]

moran just letting the impossible happen on this boss, 1520k cp clear is lowest I've seen all the other clears are 1.6m

[foggy violet]

Moran's DR is crazy good

[atomic oasis]

she actually makes me think again about Ludmilla not gonna lie

[plucky shell]

he's using diesel for burst gen

[atomic oasis]

85% dmg reduction on FB

[plucky shell]

also dmg taken is good

[atomic oasis]

I think it's impossible to kill Ludmilla even with Sniper boss or suicide bomb

[slender estuary]

the ludmilla SSS tier list at start of nikke

[atomic oasis]

good enough as a totem

I will try pushing her to higher tier in campaign

sadly won't beat Moran

Moran is just stupid level

[nova dawn]

burst gen issue

no siren

[atomic oasis]

tbf I would run Goathara and Diesel there instead, assuming same investment

[nova dawn]

4mg 1 ar would be painful burstgen

[atomic oasis]

no core no part is asking for Goathara

[nova dawn]

mmm maybe i think rapi offers the missile break

[atomic oasis]

just cover

[nova dawn]

and deficit atk scaling might be different

[atomic oasis]

also there's Moran

[nova dawn]

cover is downtime

[atomic oasis]

hm true

[nova dawn]

we dont do downtime

[atomic oasis]

100% ATK from Rapi may work better there

[ocean marlin]

5/5/5/5 equipment for moran?

[slender estuary]

yes except shoes/boots

absolute waste of resources to level those

[ocean marlin]

Ok

[atomic oasis]

if you OL, 0/0/0/0

in fact, all Nikke without being in Co op = fine at 0/0/0/0

[vestal echo]

which means 5 5 5 0

so no to 5 5 5 5

[slender estuary]

that's what I basically said

[vestal echo]

Yes, but no
is not yes

[slender estuary]

you're just being pedantic

[atomic iron]

moranbros i don't feel so good

[atomic iron]

wait actually doable?

[gentle scaffold]

Not enuff dmg if u have to run manchor

Need to be able to survive the hit with only moran

[atomic iron]

moran survives ok

everyone else explode

[plucky shell]

yeah ur lower cp than that vid

1.52m was lowest i've seen so far

[gentle scaffold]

Below 1.6m cp need tempering cube to survive

[ocean marlin]

Opps I accidentally 5/5/5/3 OL

[atomic oasis]

I mean if you can afford

I can't

a lv costs 9m credit

sometimes I had to delay a few days to have enough credit to level up

[ocean marlin]

I don't meta really so I can afford to max few units

[foggy violet]

Yeah core boxes sitting idly now while I wait for credits to level

[atomic iron]

Just do more arena gambling xd

[valid yew]

After looking at Moran, how much of a waste is it to throw all silver tickets to core 7 her? She's not a DPS, but she's everything else: an actually good Tetra Nikke, someone I really like and useful "everywhere"

[primal quiver]

Big waste, survival is binary. Character either survives or doesn’t

Doll contributes a huge portion to that with its damage reduction

Damage reduction stacks additively. Doll + Moran’s own burst buff, plus all her max hp boosts when nearly dying (up to three times) and her lifeleech while shooting…

I would only consider splurging silver mileage on Moran if you basically simply don’t care, or have too much silver mileage anyway

c7 at least does contribute to combat power score, if you were wanting that

[foggy violet]

I mean, if you have like 3000 silver mileage, then there's not much harm in considering

Otherwise, better to fool-proof your account by keeping a moderate supply to ensure you can always get future treasures

My strongest alt account started in March of 2023 and still doesn't have all of the treasure units at LB2

[valid yew]

I only have Zwei missing LB2

I have 1400-something silver tickets that piss me off because I didn't use them on Laplace in time

[hearty canyon]

Dam, 1 lock n reroll attempt

[valid yew]

Does she actually want any OL stats beyond atk and ele dmg?

[foggy violet]

Hit rate if you believe SU will ever give us cores

Otherwise crit is always a marginal DPS increase

[valid yew]

Oh, I thought I could max it immediately, I guess not

[ocean marlin]

MORAN SSS TIER IN EVERYTHING

[primal quiver]

Moran won Nikke.

We now enter EoS phase

[near grotto]

[ocean marlin]

Next sakura and Rosanna

[primal quiver]

Imagine if Moran gets the last laugh over Sakura and Rosanna

They'll never live it down

[sick kelp]

https://tenor.com/view/mahoraga-help-gif-9572555846491542801

He can’t keep getting away with this

[valid yew]

I've always wanted Moran to be useful, especially after her sitting in the Outer Rim gate by herself

She's finally here

[opal elbow]

To how much more useful Moran came to be, who does she compare to as now being a 20 second b1?

[nova dawn]

liter

with more cuz u DR ur team and taunt

[foggy violet]

Liter with weaker frontloaded FB offensive buffs, better CD, and much heavier defensive utility. Nihilister and Ultra are basically the only bosses against which Liter wins in defensive utility I think, simply because those use AoE moves that deal a lot of damage to cover

Although SR dolls kind of turned Nihilister into a joke at normal SR tier (museum No Limit will be pain tho probably)

Oh, and she also doesn't brick Privaty and S Anis

[strange latch]

Moran still doesn't help my Rapi live through Ziz second AoE 😔

599 Sync and 1LB

[foggy violet]

Moran 1LB? Then she can't have treasure

Or are you saying that Rapi's LB1

[nova dawn]

is ur rapi dolled?

also wats ur cp

i think 575 lb0 diesel needed tempering cube

[peak inlet]

Just two more levels then you can have an easier time because of the cp spike

[strange latch]

1.66m, full SR15

[nova dawn]

yea low lb prob just needs tempering cube

[strange latch]

Tempering let's me survive but my damage is too low

Although I guess I don't know how much an extra 9% elemental will actually do

[lunar dove]

on a scale of "what a waste" to "best idea ever" how worth it would it be to c7 moran using silver tix

[plucky shell]

what else is there to use silver mileage on and cp padding for pvp and pve

[hallow ice]

A lot of folks seem to think this is the right option

She really is sss?

[atomic iron]

the's the b1 with cdr and healing

kind of

and not in a jank way like rouge

[nova dawn]

Priv dupes for water weak and future treasures

[slender estuary]

her role compression is not a joke, it really is that good

the only thing she lacks is burst gen and if she had that would be utterly broken

[hallow ice]

My priv already core max + pulled too many extra times because the game forces her on me

[foggy violet]

If it weren't for Siren's forced targeting mechanic, I'd easily say Moran's the best B1 in the game