[Moran] New Unit Megathread

[primal quiver]

I’m not going to count the accident yesterday after reset… some unlucky commander attacked me

Probably missed a digit or two from my defense squad CP

Also I share with only 1 other whale

So even if he overtakes me in pvp I wouldn’t care in SP Arena (still 3k gems) or Rookie (I have nearing 9,000 elemental code selectors… lol)

Champ arena waiting room

Alright enough flexing… I actually wish I had a PvP format to really try things out

I feel rusty because I can’t really try comps properly

[tepid birch]

i wish i had that luxury

lol

[primal quiver]

For what it’s worth, I tried to replace S Anis with maxed BS Scarlet in Rookie on attack and I promptly lost to the other whale who was 100k power below me

[primal marsh]

Be nice, setup 1 nikke defense and let people get that gems

[cosmic bramble]

Oh Marci is bcus Snake wrote it

I didnt pull Marci and im fine

Just not top performing

Cus some strats are locked out

Basically in UR I have to cope and shit

Or just not use that team

[glass jackal]

[cosmic bramble]

In SR, if I dont slack, usually id find a way to work without Marci

Marci is a must pull but wouldnt kill you

[glass jackal]

grab 1 copy and dont have to struggle

[cosmic bramble]

Not having RH would def kill u

[glass jackal]

idk whats so hard to understand

if u dont have pulls then u dont have pulls cuz u poor

[cosmic bramble]

Omg let me swipe

[primal quiver]

Speaking of non-practical aspects of Moran

[glass jackal]

mfer dont u got like 500k gems

[cosmic bramble]

Mf whale

[cosmic bramble]

No shit since when

[primal quiver]

I’d rank her bond episodes at B and her event story grade is still pending

[cosmic bramble]

It says 226k rn

I spent 21k for SBS rmb and gave up

[primal quiver]

But she says it herself somewhere, I forget where… she’s like older sister to commander

[cosmic bramble]

Would have been 247k

[primal quiver]

0 romance hints whatsoever 💀

And she tries to make commander lose all his savings on the stock market

💀

[cosmic bramble]

Me not pulling Moran is

A punishment

For me pulling 70 times on SBS

I must skip 2 banners

[tired trout]

[cosmic bramble]

[tired trout]

is Moran good

[cosmic bramble]

Shes fine

Good nah

Fine

From 1-10, then 6

[tired trout]

[primal quiver]

Depends on your goals though @tired trout

[cosmic bramble]

Leona is 5

Marci is 7.5

[primal quiver]

Campaign, basically terrible. PvP, good though pvpers are still testing. SR, possibly good but only serious contenders need to care, serious as in top 50 contenders. Rest probably doesn’t need to factor in Moran at all on this subject

UR, probably ignored for all eternity

[cosmic bramble]

I already said her pvp team is

Moran Biscu SAnis Drake Maiden no one listens

[strange latch]

What is the difference between SR and UR?

In terms of unit viability?

[versed spoke]

isnt it freewin for scar?

[glass jackal]

UR is 3 teams, SR is 5 teams

so SR requires an extra 10 units to work with

someone like dolla doesnt make the cut for UR, but makes the cut for SR

miranda as well

[soft lodge]

https://nikke.gg/moran-analysis-and-theorycraft-should-you-pull/

[primal quiver]

Rock, empty, rock. Now that’s a 2/3 I like

[hazy obsidian]

NGL, Moran feels great.

This is 0 OL and skills 5/6/5

Also a CP disadvantage of 281k VS 328k

[visual vapor]

Other guy is clueless how to position though

[hazy obsidian]

yeah he is, but at least in my rookies people were trying hard to figure out how to beat this comp confortably

[primal quiver]

Yeah something’s wrong with opponent setup

Jackal likely linking with Scarlet and Red Hood

Noise in P1 and Noah in P2 are fine, whether they’re good there or should be swapped positions is dependent on their survivability which varies by skills, breakthroughs, and OLs

And he seems to be defending with RH as main burster because he figured he can’t beat enemy comps that bring Noah, even though he has his own Noah

[hazy obsidian]

yea this guy used to run God comp

But he seemed to have more success with this comp

[primal quiver]

This just leads to a situation where you basically Makima his Alice (Red Hood)

Or Biscuit, same difference

Making me wonder if you needed Moran in the fight at all

[hazy obsidian]

[primal quiver]

Do you have Noise?

[hazy obsidian]

I think everyone in my rookies, including me, are noobs then

cause we couldnt beat this comp until now

[hazy obsidian]

Yes i do

[primal quiver]

What other B1s did you try that failed?

[hazy obsidian]

Ok so

[primal quiver]

Noise I assume?

Well Moran just came out

I haven’t fought using her, or against her

[hazy obsidian]

I'll list the teams i used against it and failed

[primal quiver]

I’m actually surprised if Moran was the decider in letting you win

[hazy obsidian]

S.Anis Noise Blanc Centi Jackal

Noise Scarlet XAnne Centi Jackal

[primal quiver]

Would mean you won because S Anis buffed Moran and the dmg dealt, and reload, mattered

[hazy obsidian]

Noise Rosanna S.Anis Biscuit Jackal

[primal quiver]

That and because Moran is a defender, she can trigger Biscuit invincible

[hazy obsidian]

Yes, exactly

[primal quiver]

Noise can’t so RH would blow her up

[hazy obsidian]

thats the main reason i brought Moran

She feels like a Noise but defender, which benefits from Biscuit

[primal quiver]

Hmm were we that starved for a B1 defender?

👀

[hazy obsidian]

Well

There's Ludmilla but...

[primal quiver]

SMG

Right, okay. I understand now

[hazy obsidian]

Yeah and also she doesnt have self-sustain

[primal quiver]

Moran is AR and defender, and can receive S Anis buffs during burst

Definitely a difference maker

[hazy obsidian]

dont forget Biscuit buffs

I mean, invincibility

[primal quiver]

Yep

[hazy obsidian]

Also

Running her over Noah makes so that you can use Biscuit burst to buff S.Anis, which i find huge

[primal quiver]

Rapunzel is bloodthirsty on that team

Biscuit buffing Rapunzel damage 😂

[hazy obsidian]

Bro

Ive seen sometimes Biscuit buffing Noise and making her top damage

[primal quiver]

If no jackal what to use?

[hazy obsidian]

cause also the DPS of said teams died too fast, so Noise had to do all the job

[hazy obsidian]

I'd say Centi, for sure

Anis can also be used, but that would mean a huge CP deficit

[pine briar]

Kinda sad since i push campaign in high deficit

And im biscuitless, also sitting comfortably in top 3 in pvp

[hazy obsidian]

Wow... top 3 confortably in SP arena without biscuit is no joke

[pine briar]

Lol

[primal quiver]

Yeah thats

A blessed pvp group

[cosmic bramble]

I said

Its a Lud replacement

I said this from 7 daysago

No one believed

My theorycrafts are 95% accurate

But up to yall

[tropic bluff]

So…she’s dead?

Ez skip?

[primal marsh]

we are more interested in your 5%

[inner current]

So she is PvP unit only

Got it

[supple crypt]

[glass jackal]

95% inaccurate 4% accurate 1% big brain

[pastel mountain]

should i pull or skip? i have bunnies and cuppids , also for pvp i have jackax , nero and x annis , is she really worth then? dont have a good b1 for the tetra tower , got noise , but she s got too long of a cd

[glass jackal]

u shud be using volume for tetra tower

bis team shud b volume blanc xlud alice noir

[strange latch]

And before Alice is OLed?

[glass jackal]

dont push

OL alice

[pastel mountain]

dont have volume

for b1 i have noise milk and firma

is it worth to pull moran just for tower? already have good b1 for pvp

[glass jackal]

no

u dont pull moran for tower

u pull moran for pvp & SR

[atomic oasis]

SR

[strange latch]

The real question is will Moran help me with my large PvP CP deficit?

(240k vs 300k+)

[glass jackal]

[atomic oasis]

prydwen will kill her this time

[supple crypt]

She's a must pull if you wanna survive Scarlet's nuke

[primal marsh]

Jesus people got directed into this place and all they see is SR whalelord veterans talking about must pull team 5 optimizing pvp tryhard shenanigan

[atomic oasis]

and that 5th team is not even good

[primal marsh]

I would sue the guy who wrote pinned message to sec for bad investment advice

[glass jackal]

[primal marsh]

[glass jackal]

who whale

im not whale

[primal marsh]

getting very defensive there

[glass jackal]

[thick bear]

the only reason to pull Moran

yummy 5M usb sticks

[supple crypt]

Moran ded on Chatterbussy

She ate the spikes

and got instakilled

at least during the 2nd cycle

[thick bear]

when your taunter dies to a boss that has instakill mechanics that bypass hp buffs and damage reduction

[supple crypt]

Well I guess you can redirect the ground pound

Imma OL her

I need that juicy CP for Arena

[thick bear]

[broken orchid]

That's what I figured would occur.

[supple crypt]

Now Imma wait for tomorrow

And let her dodge rocks again

or take them

[cosmic bramble]

Try iframing during burst

[primal marsh]

Try not to use midran

https://tenor.com/view/bruce-lee-be-water-my-friend-gif-10055468

[supple crypt]

[thick bear]

[glass jackal]

morgod

[pulsar anvil]

the Moran civil war starting 2024 nicely

[severe fern]

Midran

[soft lodge]

Y'all just need to be patient

Moran surely has some proper use

[unborn pine]

I rolled

BelieveMoranIsRight

[thick bear]

[soft lodge]

Holy balls

[vestal sparrow]

Okay so, what's the verdict? Should i pull or wait?

[cosmic bramble]

No

[vestal sparrow]

...

Pull or wait?

[glass jackal]

Yes

[hearty canyon]

Yes

[primal marsh]

No

[random cipher]

no

[primal marsh]

The fact that there is contradicting ideas and you have to ask if u should pull or not, it means u are not ready to get her yet

[vestal sparrow]

ffs im laughing harder than i should

her skills seems good, but i dont know if she's that good

[soft lodge]

Pull for PvP.

Otherwise skippable.

End of story

[random cipher]

read pins i suppose

[soft lodge]

Anyone who thinks Moran not meta for PvP needs to re-evaluate her imo

I think Moran is like Rapunzel/xAnne

Sometimes she's needed sometimes she's not depending on how u setup teams

[gritty sand]

noise 2

[soft lodge]

Nah noise has a permanent spot cuz she's a hard counter to AoE while Moran is soft counter

Well, after nerf idk if she's still hard but noise has the dawg in her

Moran noah strong
Moran bisc vvv strong

I haven't seen Tia Moran, but Moran also fulfills one thing for us in the "3 points needed for a PvP team"
She protects P1 safely

[thick bear]

atm moran's advantage over noise is
can't whiff
is defender so biscuit-able

but otherwise, AR vs RL for burst gen speed

[soft lodge]

Moran has no burst gen tho so noise should be better here if u go off of that

Cuz noise can make opponent whiff too while Moran is confirmed hit (u want RLs for P1)

[vestal sparrow]

Got it, thanks! Im not caring about pvp lol

[thick bear]

when it comes to whiffing, I just assume the worst (i.e. I whiff, enemy doesn't)

[soft lodge]

Scarlet union bros losing to whiffing and keripo deleting the game

I see it

[thick bear]

losing champ arena because enemy noise has 1% more cspeed than you

[primal marsh]

This is good response, just read pin instead of yes no

[random cipher]

just ping momo

[severe fern]

[atomic oasis]

ping mo...ran

[cosmic bramble]

Stop compating Moran to Noise

Moran is just Noise+Lud combined

Two in 1 package

[glass jackal]

Morgod

[primal quiver]

Future Nikke release, name: Whiff. S1 passive: Increase odds of whiffs for everybody!

S1 name: “Missed me?”

[severe fern]

yeah dont compare my wife with moron

[hazy berry]

Guys what cube and ol stats is recommended for her?

[primal quiver]

Probably the hp one, otherwise the usual resilience or bastion cubes

She operates off health thresholds during combat, like 50% if paired with Biscuit, and 20% by herself, you don’t want her exploding to a big hit (though that should be rare because anywhere between 1-5 Nikkes will be shooting at her….)

OL stats are probably a “whatever floats your boat” because she’s a defender taunting tank, not really good at damage in the first place

If anything, maybe max ammo just so she never stops shooting, but you should be questioning yourself in the mirror if you ever used rocks to reroll OLs for Moran

[primal quiver]

Forgot to ping you, I responded

[hazy berry]

got it thx

[shadow arrow]

i see burst 1 + taunt, i can't resist

[exotic crypt]

is moran decent?

[primal marsh]

not for you specifically

ehh no i was wrong, u might want her, since u interested in pvp

[glass jackal]

morgod

[hearty canyon]

Correction: morgod pvp

[primal marsh]

consider the upcoming banners

just let midran die

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1159318599429787748/1195374899397677176/1704374859794053-1.gif?ex=65b3c2a1&is=65a14da1&hm=94f97fb157f4c5fd3f2dd96fa992f28c574b407cd3b5fb59223c9b2dae7d5dca&

[atomic oasis]

what's upcoming banner

[primal marsh]

could be valentine, could be lunar new year

[atomic oasis]

[hearty canyon]

Have to wait and see

[glass jackal]

banned

[atomic oasis]

[hearty canyon]

[burnt terrace]

don't do cny in korea?

[atomic oasis]

in KR they celebrate Mid Autumn

they don't go hard on New Year or Lunar New Year

[cosmic bramble]

Heres where Moran falls

Nowhere

WHO HAS MORAN PLEASE TEST SAKURA MORAN MAST SANIS GUILLO IN INTERCEPTION AND REPORT TY (ur name will be credited)

[cosmic bramble]

What is this scarlet team

[atomic oasis]

#1194930204511055952 message

you know, you can test her yourself

with scope lock

[supple crypt]

4RL

[cosmic bramble]

Scope lock is bad

Because gear effect is emphasized

Gear stats are less effective on higher syncs

[atomic oasis]

you have 10/10/10

[cosmic bramble]

Its how gear is overpowered in coop

Bro u dont get it wtf

[atomic oasis]

[cosmic bramble]

DOES 10 10 10 IN COOP MAKE HER BETTER THAN sync 400? I think not

[atomic oasis]

dew your own math, I'm too lazy to type

[cosmic bramble]

WHY MATH WHEN SOMEONE CAN TEST IT

SMH

[past barn]

is my 0lb moran with 3/3/1 skill fine?

cause this is her damage

[cosmic bramble]

Wrong burst order btw

[past barn]

burst with sakura first?

[cosmic bramble]

Sakura + SAnis

So u buff her burst

[past barn]

okay lemme try it again

[cosmic bramble]

But its kinda enough to see

Yeah Moran will be meta in PvE

For when boss doesnt do AoE

I mean covers exist too anyway

Mast and Saku give tons of buff to SAnis

While I really want to get Moran, Im skipping her

Cus I wasted 70 on SBS

Need to recover the losses

[past barn]

4s faster with sakura + s.anis burst. at least moran did 0.4M damage because mod did not stun her when moran was bursting

recorded a vid while playing in window mode https://youtu.be/ZMU5OguqHg0

[hazy berry]

Can i slap Moran in any arena team or does she specifically needs Biscuit and Sanis?

[primal quiver]

You can probably use her as a throwaway B1 that just needs to live long enough to burst, as long as she isn’t chunked to 0% hp without triggering her first anti-death passive

[hazy berry]

Ok

[primal quiver]

I remember the days when I had trouble in arenas because one of my teams had to make do with a B1 like Pepper

I’d probably have had used Moran there (even if less burst gen than Pepper) because I sorely needed someone in P1 or P5

And Pepper in either is just asking to be killed fast

Not to mention, Pepper first burst is almost useless in arena

[supple crypt]

Yeah

[primal quiver]

Since usually doesn’t even stack her passive enough for an AoE heal

[severe fern]

Peeper is used cuz burst gen

I guess...

[supple crypt]

Yeah

0.45%

Just like Drake, Noir, Sugar, Maiden

Fastest amongst the shotguns if I'm not mistaken

[primal quiver]

Yeah

It was one of those, “I need a B1 with good burst gen” and there was Pepper, but then I now have a “I need someone in P1” and I had to pick between putting a fragile B1 there (Pepper), a fragile B2 there (whoever), or my main burst B3 there (because any other location she wouldn’t be the one bursting)…

Terrible decisions, terrible third team

[severe fern]

yep we need new team 3

[mystic spear]

so is moran a pull or wait until wishlist angle

[random cipher]

check pins

pull if hardcore PvP enjoyer, wishlist if not

[strange latch]

Will she help deal with heavy CP gaps?

[cinder apex]

probably not, no

Though it depends on what you're currently using, I suppose.

If you don't have bunnies or jk and are having trouble surviving, she might help. But she isn't shifting the progression meta at all.

[strange latch]

Like Blanc+RH can mess with Scarlet nukes even at 15%

[cinder apex]

are you talking about PVP?

[strange latch]

Yes

[cinder apex]

oh. then maybe.

again, depends on what you're running lol

[random cipher]

just read pins i suppose, snake goes in depth with her kit

[cinder apex]

[glass jackal]

morgod dont listen to these haters

[hearty canyon]

It's morgod pvp homie

Call it by its right name

[thick bear]

MORGOD

MORGOD BELIEVER NOW

[supple crypt]

I forgot. I need to try her on SI train

[pulsar anvil]

trust Austin

pull Moran

[primal quiver]

Just don’t believe in Moran and stonks

[valid glade]

damn top 30 isnt even 1m

ez mode

[supple crypt]

I feel asleep

I forgot to test Morgod vs SI train

[soft lodge]

ik u think i might be trolling but

zxous did good tests

i think just check his vid out

he used mod + xlud, but if u use rh and know how to delay first burst u should be able to get a similar output

[supple crypt]

oooh

[soft lodge]

moran can tank the turrets insanely well

[supple crypt]

[soft lodge]

and if u pair sakura u can tank even more

[supple crypt]

I see

Imma look his vid up later

[severe fern]

So the better version than ludxsaku Vs train

[cosmic bramble]

No.

There is literally no difference if you run Moran Saku.

Not better not worse.

Moran only changes something in PvP in Guillotine team.

[severe fern]

pvp in guillo team... Interesting

https://tenor.com/view/orange-cat-cat-side-eye-cat-side-eye-orange-cat-staring-gif-4749659952322810298

[cosmic bramble]

[tropic bluff]

Midran confirmed? Even for pvp?

[severe fern]

[reef lantern]

excuse me, it's morgod

[rotund pilot]

didnt people shit on Sneon?

[primal quiver]

S Neon utterly overshadowed by W Ludmilla 🤡 Whoever was smoking when they designed S Neon had their smoking privileges revoked before they were allowed to cook W Ludmilla

[supple crypt]

She mid if CP diff is too big

[strange latch]

That seals it, then

Will have to find another pick up to try and find copies for mlb

[burnt terrace]

they buffed her after and she was still terrible

[soft lodge]

https://www.prydwen.gg/nikke/guides/guide-moran

Alright close this thread now

[supple crypt]

[unborn pine]

Wao ss pvp

Morgod

[unborn pine]

https://vxtwitter.com/NIKKE_en/status/1752240268701475175

[vale bobcat]

Question: the moran sanis guillo team is team 4 or team 5 pick for sr?

[thick bear]

kinda hard to fit in tbh

since moran is 40s cd

[glass jackal]

5

[glass jackal]

sakura

easy fix

reopens up novel/mast too they have fallen out since volume/liter sucked to tia naga/bunnies

[severe fern]

Sucked

[glass jackal]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1036760639709921422/1151344972235288597/SLORPGLORPIN.gif

[severe fern]

The heck bro

That is creepy

[supple crypt]

[primal quiver]

How to scare lurkers away from a Discord thread, masterclass by @glass jackal

[glass jackal]

https://tenor.com/view/chizuru-hishiro-confused-what-chizuru-hishiro-gif-12465920

[cosmic bramble]

"Snake's Paradox" = The tendency for someone to aim for a higher goal, rank, or position and invest resources even if they are completely aware that it is unprofitable.

[glass jackal]

"Kisenix's Paradox" = The tendency for someone to be a dumbass but not realize it.

[cosmic bramble]

"Austin's Paradox" = The tendency for someone to be condescending, often domineering, while trying to maintain a false sense of superiority in front of others perceived as lesser of them, even though they need them.

[glass jackal]

i need kisenix

[cosmic bramble]

“Omg weres kisenix i miss his cuking" - 10 times already

"omg kisenix cuk for me"

[glass jackal]

[cosmic bramble]

Kisenix's Paradox = The tendency for someone to hoard and plan too cautiously for the future, which sometimes results in loss of profits instead.

Roasting myself and everyone.

[supple crypt]

[glass jackal]

[cosmic bramble]

I have tips guys

If you want a reasonable but mathematical answer = ask Gatrix; if you want someone to say "no, don't pull", ask me; if you want someone to say "please pull", ask Snake; if you want someone to say "one copy", ask Austin. Please choose according to your heart's desire so you can experience delirium.

[atomic oasis]

if you want to know how to avoid ban

ask me too

then do exactly reverse

[thick bear]

moran allowed me to waste 5300 of another guy’s gems in spvp, so worth

[cosmic bramble]

Sunk cost fallscy for you

You not him

He is stupid

Thats all

[naive oracle]

do i pull for moran or just wishlist?

[atomic oasis]

wish

[primal quiver]

Looks like Morgod camp is losing big time in the community votes

[glass jackal]

pull

[atomic oasis]

pull Leona

[thick bear]

pull

[primal quiver]

https://tenor.com/view/tug-of-war-titan-games-pull-strong-big-muscles-gif-20029401

[supple crypt]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-kylo-ren-traitor-betrayer-betrayed-gif-25293273

[severe fern]

[cosmic bramble]

Morans coming for u

[unborn pine]

True victim is ade

[spark linden]

So.... for what I read, Moran is not that good PVP? As in too hyped up or overrated?

[cosmic bramble]

Shes good, not overrated

[soft lodge]

Where did u read it

Can I read it too

[glass jackal]

morgod

[glass jackal]

@viral perch cookin

[viral perch]

[glass jackal]

seems like this does more than miranda dolla helm variation

🤔

[cosmic bramble]

Noise Sakura is just 0.1 step behind

Mf

Literally just change Moran to Noise, idk save gems?

Unless ure Kira who OLs Moran

[glass jackal]

mf use ur brain

noise heals there

[cosmic bramble]

Yeah is that a problem

[glass jackal]

sakura moran is better than sakura noise

cuz u open up guillo option

fm

mf

[cosmic bramble]

Im looking at this

U dumb

[glass jackal]

tahts from sgay

[hollow viper]

so should i pull on her banner or nah?

[soft lodge]

Moran's banner has finished 2 weeks ago

[cosmic bramble]

Bro jetlag

[hollow viper]

IK It was joke

[primal quiver]

Morjoke

[soft lodge]

.

[near grotto]

[thick bear]

[soft lodge]

1 -> 2 -> 3

Meta, you should max her out
Silver mileage for dupes if you are rich

[foggy violet]

Wait, she's a CDR unit now?

Holy meta

Hooooly meta

[jagged flint]

Target for trina in pve too
Scarlet totally dead

[topaz path]

Wtf actually giga meta

[jagged flint]

Man if only milk get this treatment too
Her treasure now just look like fraud moran lol

[foggy violet]

Even if she's Defender, that ATK buff is still a 28% ATK buff for Attackers, and her debuff is practically as strong as Blanc's

She's probably better for SWHA than Miranda, no?

[jagged flint]

What debuff

[foggy violet]

Damage Taken Up

OH WAIT

[jagged flint]

Where

[foggy violet]

I CAN'T READ

Damage Taken DOWN for allies

Okay, that's much less broken

Still very meta tho

[jagged flint]

Yea shes basically look like siren to me
20 sec with huge cdr and can deal some damage
Better even cause she protect allies too

[distant turret]

wow, that cdr alone is enough for her to compete in the meta

[foggy violet]

Yeah, as long as she's the one bursting, the entire team is protected from single targets for basically the whole fight

[topaz path]

Also looks like ol doesnt matter that much

Fuck it roll some random shit

[foggy violet]

Give her Trina and you'll want ele/atk

[jagged flint]

She deal respectable damage imo

[topaz path]

She aint getting shit im not even done with my snowwhite

[sick kelp]

How much better than Rouge will she be?

[soft lodge]

Rouge still better for electric

Moran is moreso a 3rd CDR and maybe even better than liter

[foggy violet]

Moran is electric too tho

[pine briar]

pvp meta now pve meta? yeah thats my girl

[sick kelp]

[soft lodge]

Yeah but rouge is just better for Cindy and maiden

I think

[foggy violet]

Rouge isn't even used with Cindy in SR

For UR, definitely Rouge

Oh, actually

I guess most people did use Rouge with Cindy

Just Kira didn't

[soft lodge]

Still used for maiden though

He just hyper buffed the fuck out of cindy

Crown helm liter mmast

[foggy violet]

Yup

Kicking Rouge out of electric entirely won't happen for a long time

[atomic oasis]

[jagged flint]

Its been awhile since electric too curious what the best 5 team comp rn with all the new shiny things

[foggy violet]

Volume is 100% in a coffin now tho

[jagged flint]

Wind?

[atomic oasis]

wind what

[foggy violet]

Where?

[torpid turret]

Siren b1 wind
Volume b1 wind

[foggy violet]

[jagged flint]

Sg kicked now

[true meteor]

Volume need real treasure to make her alive

[foggy violet]

Next wind raid is SG

[torpid turret]

would that just be more crits?

[foggy violet]

Even then, Moran > Volume

Water's the only element that appreciated Volume cuz of Quency being so crit-focused

[true meteor]

how about direct 100% crit + 200% crit dmg ( well it would not happen

[atomic oasis]

Moran burst is too good to be off burst

okay nvm

28% ATK buff

[jagged flint]

Well I can still use volume cause I cant copy the 100% crit nayuta

[atomic oasis]

I mean, better than 5% attack damage

[twilit flume]

moran>liter?

[foggy violet]

Liter still better for damage ceiling

but Moran is extremely safe

[atomic oasis]

buff wise, Moran < Liter

[foggy violet]

and no delay in first two cycles

[twilit flume]

so must for eletric

[atomic oasis]

but Moran overall is very good

[pine briar]

DK-wife who, DeListing-wife

[atomic oasis]

definitely better than this shit burst

[foggy violet]

DKW just for fire-weak now

[atomic oasis]

if I can reset 1 skill right now

[pine briar]

thank god i play moran and have her 10/10/10. easy

i predicted this

Clueless

[soft lodge]

14 atk and 10 atk DMG

Better than 27 atk?

Rouge can also burst grn

But Moran can't do that

Maybe not as benched as we thought

[jagged flint]

The one thats obviously benched is label
Rip her getting cucked just before iron raid

[atomic oasis]

14 what

[soft lodge]

Rouge

Oh

It's self

[atomic oasis]

[soft lodge]

Nvm gang

[atomic oasis]

Siren = 10% attack damage

take it or leave

Siren becomes the off burst CDR for some teams now

🤣

[soft lodge]

Label effect

[atomic oasis]

Label Siren gang

[foggy violet]

Miranda and Siren now best buds

[atomic oasis]

I thought it will be Zwei Siren

[foggy violet]

For Ein/Ada, Nayuta, and Mihara?

No pierce

[jagged flint]

Are the siren velvet bmilk plan gonna get scrapped

[foggy violet]

For SW and SWHA though, I see

[atomic oasis]

SWHA dmg is skewed too much over S1

[twilit flume]

how?

[atomic oasis]

pierce barely makes it

[twilit flume]

moran is electric

[foggy violet]

But Zwei can give SWHA near 100% crit on all missiles, while Miranda just does the first shot

[atomic oasis]

also one thing we take too lightly about Moran is the 35% dmg reduction

[foggy violet]

Yeah, that plus dolls is gross

[atomic oasis]

it's very strong too, allow you to tank a lot of bullshit

[foggy violet]

Moran will taunt for team every FB, lifesteal, and everyone's taking like -50% damage with SR15 dolls

[atomic oasis]

for example, Eva 2.0 boss would be a joke with this Moran

[foggy violet]

Mother Whale

[atomic oasis]

I mean even the force AoE dmg

yeah

Moran B1 is actually insane in bossing/Pve now

[foggy violet]

Stupid boss that made me OL S Helm

Oh, she'll keep Crown alive more easily for people vs Indivilia should people use her

[atomic oasis]

definitely the strongest treasure this batch

"we use treasure to buff low pick rate Nikke"

Moran

[foggy violet]

As a water main, I'll probably rush Privaty first

[foggy violet]

And test on Harvester

[atomic oasis]

haven't mathed Priv, let me check, but boss = stage target right?

[foggy violet]

That +130% superior element is juicy

Privaty's isn't stage target pretty sure, but I haven't seen the JP for her treasure

Should just be the target hit

Actually, since Moran might get used in SR, I should go for her first...

[mild bolt]

Is it mee or moran actually looks pretty good?

[midnight shoal]

I heard that she could be better than siren, is that so ?

[foggy violet]

Different purpose

Her burst is definitely stronger

Siren has burst gen + personal damage, while Moran is about taunting and keeping the team alive

I have no idea how Moran's personal damage works out from S1 tho

[true meteor]

for T Moran , personal think you no need any healers in future SR ( except DoT ?

[foggy violet]

Assuming SR15 dolls, yeah, if they produce a boss that could kill a team using Moran, it would be entirely too difficult for most players

[soft lodge]

Teambuilding for raid is so hard now

[jagged flint]

For just now cause this batch of treasure is so promising so lots of new things to test
Half a year ago not like this lmao

[gentle scaffold]

moran b1+manchor for bullshit boss like snake and ziz?

[soft lodge]

CDR who

Dolla?

[gentle scaffold]

isn't moran a cdr

am i being gaslit

[soft lodge]

Ohh

Forgot

This will take time getting used to

[gentle scaffold]

[fair flare]

Meh i regret skipping her dino costume now

[static patio]

i finally get home and moran is meta now

wtf

[lunar dove]

What’s she do

[cosmic bramble]

Centi

• Independent shields that, when broken, heal the whole team.

Zwei

• Stackable Pierce DMG buff that refills throughout Full Burst.
• Up to 63% permanent Crit Rate▲ for all allies.

Moran

• 20s Burst Skill CD in PvE.
• 7.48s CDR in PvE.
• Caster's ATK▲ for all allies on Burst.
• Can now take cover during Burst. Burst updated to infinite ammo.

Privaty

• ATK DMG on entering Full Burst.
• Additional damage triggers on marked enemy instead of stunned.
• Last bullet also makes enemy take 10% more damage.
• Burst increases Elemental Damage significantly and nukes stronger, marking enemies hit. Also reduces enemy ATK.

[lunar dove]

Thanks

So moron and priv goats?

Zwei situational

And centi rip

[static patio]

i have to actually build moran now

and skipped her outfit

smh

[lethal ravine]

Moran is a side grade at best to other off burst cdrs we have now

Like a soline side grade

[static patio]

but a useful option

and plus i can use her now

[lethal ravine]

If u already have all the other cdrs no point in building her for pve still

[static patio]

I.will.tho.

[lethal ravine]

42% defender attack is still ass so u would never burst with her so shes relegated to off burst

[gentle scaffold]

i will build her if she gets me past ziz 40 levels early

[lethal ravine]

Ur better off building absolute then

[gentle scaffold]

this is just 1 unit that doesnt need good ol lines

[lethal ravine]

U wont have enough dps if u use moran for an early clear

[gentle scaffold]

cheaper

[static patio]

i forget about absolute existing

[twilit flume]

so privaty is better

[lethal ravine]

Yea privaty highest priority treasure

Zwei if u care about iron

Moran and centi can honestly b skipped

[slender estuary]

I'd say better than soline

soline does jack all besides CDR

her healing is a nonfactor as well and 40CD

[lethal ravine]

Soline does decent damage at least in sg comp

[slender estuary]

moran is the main B1 and CDR with a small attack buff

[lethal ravine]

Off burst Moran prob aint outdpsing soline

And unlike rouge or dkw she doesnt provide any buffs

[slender estuary]

that decent damage is so minor and only specifically water weak

[lethal ravine]

Not just water weak, just the stats from t9m->lv0 OL is like +250m neutral damage which isnt an insignificant amount

[undone spire]

what, crown

[lethal ravine]

Crown has so many other things going on for her

And unlike crown, ur giving up the burst of a much better b2 to run her

The opportunity cost is way greater

[undone spire]

crown even if you don't burst still had a good atk buff though, it's about what the final number is

[lethal ravine]

Yes but crown provides her caster atk regardless of burst, and when she does burst she still gives 36% dmg up

Moran needs to burst to give her buff

[undone spire]

defender stat is ~67% attacker
40x.67=26.8% atk buff

[lethal ravine]

26.8% atk is worse than just running xbrid and an off burst cdr

[undone spire]

yeah sure, i meant it's definitely not a weak atk buff

[slender estuary]

you do know Moran is a B1 right

[lethal ravine]

Oh yea but it doesnt change much

[undone spire]

extremely high team survival + taunt as the b1

[lethal ravine]

Opportunity cost is still too great

[slender estuary]

[undone spire]

vs who

[lethal ravine]

Vs the various b1s we have like liter, siren, rapi, miranda, rouge, even label

[static patio]

thats why she is a useful option

to have

[undone spire]

mir label have no survival or cdr, moran does a LOT in 1 slot

[static patio]

for whenever

like cmon

[lethal ravine]

Its not worth sr15, weeks of treasure mats and a bunch of skill manuals

[undone spire]

helm if she were comparable to other buffers in some lineups has the ability to heal the team

[lethal ravine]

Helm provides dps, burst gen and off burst buffs

Part of her value is because shes a b3

Slots are important

[undone spire]

w h a t, i don't pvp much and she can stop a buffed scarlet cleave, that's a ton of damage mitigation

[lethal ravine]

I was talking purely about pve

[undone spire]

that you can now use in pve

[pale beacon]

[undone spire]

you're missing the point, it's not about helm as a whole, it's helm filling role compression just like moran

20% atk buff + a ton of team survival + her self taunt + 7s(!!) CDR is a LOT

[lethal ravine]

Helms role compression is more valuable than morans, and its in a better burst slot which is the most important aspect . U also dont need to burst with her to get value so theres much less opportunity cost than with moran

Outside of pvp I don't c her being used as on burst b1 at all

Morans most valuable aspect cdr doesnt require her to burst, and thats likely how she will be used if she sees use at all

[undone spire]

ok but who were you going to burst with instead in some cases, or offburst with, she gives you a lot of options by trivializing team survival w high so that everything else can be offensive, there's plenty of SRs that hurt even with dolls. now you have doll dmg reduc + hers on a 7s cdr who also has an atk buff

[twilit flume]

Why wouldnt u burst with a b1

[lethal ravine]

Because there r better b1s to burst with?

Dkw, rouge, soline r all b1s ppl run in teams without using their burst

[twilit flume]

o

never knew there were b1s who dont burst ngl

[lethal ravine]

Some nikkes just provide valuable effects purely from skills and not from burst

[lethal ravine]

I already listed them all

And in a lot of raids u either dont need survivability or someone else already handles it with their role compression

[undone spire]

if you say so

[lethal ravine]

I mean the SR results will speak for themselves

Just gotta wait a few months

Not saying shes absolutely terrible but there's just so many better options

[hollow trout]

so who get treasure prioritize first?

[static patio]

priv and moran

then zwei and centi

[cosmic bramble]

?

she is broken af

SSS tier

[soft lodge]

Sssss+

[cosmic bramble]

Funny how we need 3 Phase 3 in like right now

[soft lodge]

Bro skills

Who the fuck has skills

Except you

You saving numbnut

[cosmic bramble]

What skills

[soft lodge]

Skill books

[cosmic bramble]

I spend them

[soft lodge]

What the heck else

[cosmic bramble]

I reset SRos

[twilit flume]

what is this difference in summaries

[cosmic bramble]

I think it was a good idea

[soft lodge]

Same but I'm still broke

[cosmic bramble]

Equal to Siren +-

[slender estuary]

$$$

[soft lodge]

Wait a day or two for proper summaries bro it's been 16 minutes

[dusty scarab]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1012288696336273428/1070326844991225876/credit_card.png

[cosmic bramble]

And RRH

for Bossing

[soft lodge]

Do I phase 3 moran

Or privy

If gatrix is right privy is kinda broken

[cosmic bramble]

Wait for next raid

[soft lodge]

Idk if he's testing rn

[cosmic bramble]

how about both

you need both

[soft lodge]

Lets see

[slender estuary]

do you not have dispatch items to convert snake

[cosmic bramble]

u also need zwei this raid

[soft lodge]

I didn't treasure all Nikkes last time

[cosmic bramble]

all 3 u need

LMAO

[soft lodge]

I spent all the boxes

470 smthng boxes

[slender estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/gordon-ramsay-idiot-sandwich-angry-mad-what-are-you-gif-4169547

[cosmic bramble]

can skip Zwei for now but shes better than Miranda

[soft lodge]

23 Centi
30 Zwei
32 priv
22 moran

It has to be priv right

[cosmic bramble]

I think focus on Privy and Moran first

Obviously Moran first

SG team will not be used this raid

cus BSoda sucks

[soft lodge]

Idc about some damn iron raid

🥀

[twilit flume]

doesnt that mean moran is tied for #1 b1 in the game

[cosmic bramble]

Siren will always be 1

she competes with RRH for 2

[twilit flume]

ur right i keep getting thrown off because people are saying how good they are like they were early testers

[soft lodge]

Just wait 2 days man

Just 2

[cosmic bramble]

she can protect the team, RRH cant

She will be BiS for Campaign on some bosses

[soft lodge]

I think priv for sure for sure meta so imma do her first

[cosmic bramble]

them walls like Black @soft lodge and Zuz

[soft lodge]

I wanna see priv DPS asap so I'm gonna rush her

Then gonna do Moran slowly

[cosmic bramble]

Idk about Priv

I mean ure investing in Water?

[lethal ravine]

Yea im retarded I thought Moran was a b2 this whole time

[cosmic bramble]

u got lots of competition

[lethal ravine]

Disregard everything I said

[cosmic bramble]

just get support Priv

[static patio]

smh

[soft lodge]

Genuinely thought you were tripping icl

[static patio]

bro wat

[cosmic bramble]

bro if Moran is B2, shes still broken

[soft lodge]

We don't even have a good 3rd CDR b1

Fucking Soline is used man

[cosmic bramble]

Soline will still be used

Tove gone

LMAO

this raid

trust

[lethal ravine]

a strong b2 buff + off burst cdr would probably provide higher total buffs than Moran + off burst buffer

[cosmic bramble]

It will be RRH + Eve, SW + Whatever, BMilk + Raven, RH + SWHA, and Chisato + Takina

and maybe LaplaceTr

Takina's DPS is good

[lethal ravine]

Which is why I went on that rant with xbrid and stuff cuz I thought she was b2 but im retarded

But yea b1 slot opportunity cost is a lot lower

[soft lodge]

This enables a lot of units tbh now

Units like siren, Soline and Moran (and DWife)
Effectively enable label Zwei and miranda

[cosmic bramble]

Moran Takina Chisato LaplaceTr PrivTr

Idk if Ada is better but Ada doesnt buff Takina so hmm

eh

40% * 3 + 10% dmg taken versus 60% + 50% for 1

Takina wants ATK buff, Chisato wants True DMG

weird ahh combo

[lethal ravine]

Frima/takina/chisato/laplace/cdr

All in on true dmg

I think a more likely spot for Moran would b with Julia

Judging from the boss model I dont think this will b a pierce raid so I think SW gets dropped

[cosmic bramble]

if no SW then MirandaTr is gone

u also split Chisato and Takina

and use TEmma Eunhwa

[lethal ravine]

I think if we drop sw then theres still space for bsoda

We just drop cindy to make space for julia

And takina/chisato/lap can fit in one team

[midnight shoal]

on my account in shooting range my 30% atk 7/10/9 moran team does 10% less dmg than the same team with my 90/15 10/10/10 siren against wind weak

[topaz path]

You guys yapping about building or enabling said units

But do you even have the resources

I dont like where this is going

Too much shit to invest in

[clever hill]

Thankfully, the only thing I'm really missing out on is Dolls.

[lethal ravine]

Boss has parts another sw shill raid

[pale beacon]

Got enough to phase 3

[midnight shoal]

idc bro i wanted to do the treasure for the boobas

[west karma]

[opal elbow]

Skill level priority now?

[desert cloud]

does that mean moran might be the better b1 for the snake?

with the doll+burst dr

[vale bobcat]

holy shit moran become cdr unit

[worn holly]

not only snake

she is the best b1 rn

[desert cloud]

wow wow wow chill

[worn holly]

best for any bosses

[desert cloud]

siren is in the room

[thick bear]

her offensive buff is just 42% of caster atk on a defender unit

[gentle scaffold]

when u need survivability and cdr in 1 unit for a bullshit boss like snake or ziz

she should be the one to pick

[plucky shell]

pretty sure before this was rouge and obviously rouge is worse than moran so best pick here since u need to live not worry about damage

ziz is alot more dmg check than snake tho

[desert cloud]

What was the rouge clear sync

[faint prairie]

7/7/7?

[plucky shell]

x/10/10 for pve

pvp is triple 10

[plucky shell]

should be around the same but u have more damage to clear with moran over rouge

[polar orchid]

What website is this? This is so useful to plan solo raid teams

[desert cloud]

enikk.app

[fair flare]

7/10/10 moron does pretty good damage on electric weak

Better bond story then privatyx too

[opal elbow]

So what substats along Atk and element?

[desert cloud]

Def% for pvp

[opal elbow]

For real or not really

[desert cloud]

Not worth rocks

Def% was the pvp roll like a year ago. Idk if it still holds up

[slender estuary]

no def is a joke

def doesn't scale high enough meanwhile attack does

you ain't fixing that without stupid values like 800% def

[thick bear]

don't chase lines on moran

whatever you get, just take it

unless you wanna cook something stupid like moran trina on pve content

turning moran into a dps

[vestal echo]

So She can Cover now during Burst ?

[odd hollow]

s2 and burst at 10 but which one is first ?

[thick bear]

what's the cdr at 7?

because that's all s2 is

[odd hollow]

6.77

[thick bear]

kinda have to do both then

at least cdr to 7s

[atomic oasis]

7s is lv 7

[odd hollow]

you trying to bait me ?

[near grotto]

[thick bear]

https://tenor.com/view/67-6-7-6-7-6-7-meme-gif-10920175127833152373

[slender estuary]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/982745638603194438/1448842876380381194/1442411115526230086.gif

[west karma]

Yeah it's always something like this not dps

[gentle scaffold]

Man i was just thinking

Look at moran's kit

And then look at milk...

Wonder what went wrong

[solid siren]

7s means you lose 1 burst even if its only 6s diff

[modern robin]

P3s attack buff is still caster% so every attack line helps

[thick bear]

attack line doesn’t work

[foggy violet]

Attack lines specifically DON'T influence Caster's

[modern robin]

Ah ok

[foggy violet]

It's on base ATK, and OL lines are considered start-of-battle buffs

Dolls, bond, and equipment levels are what help Caster's buffs

but treasures require SR15 and bond 30 anyway

And Defender gear ATK buffs are awful, so waste of gear exp to level the OLs

[lethal ravine]

• cube base stats, consoles

[foggy violet]

Yup

slightly related, but do we know what the new cube is?

[lethal ravine]

Its +14% true dmg

[foggy violet]

[lethal ravine]

So uh like takina, laplace

[foggy violet]

SU truly loves the true damage gimmick

[lethal ravine]

Im not sure if chisato would want it over bastion

[modern robin]

Wrong PvP goon you are trying to send propa I enjoy my Moran solo the enemy team

[lethal ravine]

Level 4 boots fake Moran stan

[foggy violet]

I mean PvE

[winter furnace]

i already have helm treasure, should moran be next?

[modern robin]

She's best ele b1 atm

[lethal ravine]

Moran most universally useful treasure of the bunch

[winter furnace]

what team do you run with her?

[foggy violet]

You can stick her with any team

She just makes the team invincible

[lethal ravine]

Just a generic good b1 like liter

[foggy violet]

Buffs are generic

She's worse with Grave than Liter

[winter furnace]

i don't have her is she worth dropping 600 regular tickets for

[lethal ravine]

Her attack buff is half but twice as long as liter, but she enables more FB uptime cuz no ramp up

[foggy violet]

due to having Siren/Froline/Rapi-tier cdr

[lethal ravine]

So maybe worse for more frontloaded nikkes but better overall

[foggy violet]

Her ATK buff is much less than half of Liter's

[lethal ravine]

Well realistically yeah

[foggy violet]

And Liter ultimately provides more bursts than other cdr units despite delay assuming generation can keep up

Basically requires Grave tho

[vestal echo]

I dont think u need Ammo on her

[west karma]

It's first roll

No way I will waste my rock with her

[raven oak]

You don't need ammo

[vestal echo]

I think if u dont want to screw up her " Final Bullet " taunt
u might wanna throw some rocks at her

[west karma]

it's ok i don't care about PVP

[cosmic bramble]

Prydwen's first SSS SSS SSS unit

[stable niche]

is moran good

[foggy violet]

Arguably best B1 in the game

[stable niche]

really

she was only good for pvp

[foggy violet]

Well now she's a 20s CDR unit who basically prevents the team from dying

[opal elbow]

All skills 10 or only two?

[foggy violet]

Not sure if there's a storng reason to upgrade her S1, but S2 is cdr, so level however high you want to have cdr Burst wants to be 10

[stable niche]

ok i already got her treasure

miku will have to wait