#[Moran] New Unit Megathread
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think of base def vs base atk as -12% atk debuff
so 100% of Noah ~ -24% atk debuff
300% of Moran ~ - 48% atk debuff

it will be offset with, +50% atk buff
isnt that really good then
easy right
this is for PVP
not PVE
boss has I don't know attack/def

but for PVP, you can use that as a measure
let's think of Scarlost

a 2 RL Scarlet has 3 stacks S1 + Xanne = 146.67% ATK up. That's 146.67% dmg increased
But Moran has - 48% atk debuff so she now only has 98% dmg increased. That's a 32% dmg reduction
on top of eh, her own dmg reduction

thanks for the recommendation

Nah Morgod is shit against Scar
Most likely she will get wiped before any of her skills activate
her def up will be useless if scar nuke her before her hp drop below 20%? same with biscuit s2?
Isn’t this why she will be in P1 and soak the incoming damage anyway?
Besides, she has one job and it’s to live to burst once
Scarlet is B3, Moran is B1, squad has issues if Moran cannot burst before Scarlet kills everybody
Moran does not block Scarlet

doesnt that make her kinda bad then
if u listen to kisenoob u have a 50/50 chance of bricking ur account

well I made a bet for someone to buy me pulls and try to get max lb moran anyways
I was hoping to run her with like
moran scalter rapun anis noir
wudnt moran just be better with biscuit s.anis tho
Since she's gonna run Summer Anis how good is she going to compare against Dorothy?
Doro has always been not a good support for SAnis
Privaty is what supports SAnis
Ideal? Not really
Now, Sakura supports SAnis (you can time it in her rotation), and Mast also supports SAnis.
Guillotine being stable DPS benefits from both
Moran is just a taunter + sub DPS benefitting from SAnis
Doro + Priv can now support Modernia, which benefits more from Privaty's reload
For Priv Doro Mod you need Priv S1 at 10
Soon, Scarlet OG is dead
Because last team will either be SW or SG if they release one in the future
If boss has too much AoE, then Guillo will be subbed for Scarlet
Yes but with Moran, OG Scar is finally dead
Guillo + SAnis + Resil unlimited reload is just too broken
Did I just read this right. Moran, a B1, has killed off OG Scarlet?
Isn’t Moran a defender
Yes
- T1: SBS Alice Noir
- T2: RH XLud
- T3: Max Mod Priv Doro
- T4: SAnis Guillo Moran
- T5: SW

cracked moran vs cracked whitlet and moran lives?
cuz unless im against poseidon, i dont see moran live
sakura im guessing
gives cdr for smooth rotation, more def for moran survival and team survival without heals
plus some attack every other rotation
Hmmm, aside from SAnis, who else is she going to be used for?
The bench
Pvp maybe
I don't think she'll be separated by SAnis there as well
inb4 she shines in tournament
or whatever grand pvp thats still not unlocked after a year
I hope Champion Arena will get rid of the CP penalty 
does the team survive too
If you pair her with biscuit sanis not really seeing how that team doesn’t have enough sustain
dont have s anus
anis
planning to run moran scalter rapun anis noir
that'll probably be worse idk
Not rly
With Biscuit yes, without most likely not
Moran is designed for unbuffed scarlet
Most buffed scarlet will kick ur ass anyways
Nero Rapu was usable meta
Moran XAnne will also be usable meta
Again need Biscuit
Moran B3 XAnne Biscu X
But its less reliable than Nero
Because Nero gives damage reduction to Rapu and Biscu
Honestly, Im not seeing much Moran use in PvP
Except for replacing Noah
In that specific team
Make opponent p5 scarlet and your SAnis can't dent any ass


if there was some way
to make like marciana work in pvp
and still be 3rl or something, moran marci could keep your sustain up
we also dont know if the counter has any energy gen right?

it was translation error its additional dmg on burst
ah ok
but yeah if moran fully invested doesnt survive a scarlet nuke then I dont think Ill pull for rate up
and when I say moran I mean like the whole team
ill just wishlist and save
not really no
she removes scarlet atk buff completely, or blanc's buff completely
321+ it should be enough for nikkes to survive 
now, rh+blanc+scarlet
that idk
im only 249 
plus I dont have s anis for her to be in anyways
honestly, before 221 i dont see moran doing a lot 
i think a blanc scar slash will kill moran teams
damn
well, if u lack makima she might be useful
have her dont use her
ill send my three teams
one sec
if moran doesnt really benefit these teams then
my plan was to slot her instead of blanc
its pretty impossible that noir eats it in a def team
only snipers target p5
attack, yeah its tough to judge sometimes
so def at least switch scalter and blanc
still, blanc p1 will always be better since SBS gets target skipped and their RLs hitting p2 gives them more burst gen
hmmm ok
smthng on the lines of
moran biscuit SBS x x

blanc does not buff indom on herself so it can be fine if sbs receives splash damage from enemy's rl
yeah
but the issue is
my noir has lower max hp than my scalter
so wouldnt it target her
upgrade noir armor?
its cause of the lbs
blanc indoms current lowest hp
not final max hp

yeah, blanc works a bit differently
than what a lot of people think
Made for Prydwen's Nikke PvP Guide
this on noir. or you bring another clip shotgun with more hp than noir
ok probably not a good example cuz only one other nikke was alive 
dont really need this, doesnt help much unless theres a jackal link
but yeah, it indoms the current lowest hp, so in a def team, your p2 will get indom 99% of the time
rapunzel can heal sbs up to full hp
you try testing things out in sparena on reset if no one hits you tbh
hmm. i forgot what im concerned about moran
yeah but my main concern on attack is the SGs targetting noir and it does more dmg than the RL splash
im mainly just trying to make it so scalter can survive a scarlet nuke or RH
probably need to change team structure for that
maybe even blanc p5 if u can kek
probably dont run this exact team in atk against sgs ;--;
but moran might be able to help u out here in this case
over blanc
moran Scarbs biscut, its a proper stall
use blanc there 
noah RH drake anis centi
o
youre right
but I think its gonna be too slow
lemme check
oh sweet
its still 3 RL
so then
the only problem then is that you might wanna use alice over rapunzel here now
blanc alice rapunzel works
blanc rh rapunzel doesnt always work
restructure after moran will be hard otherwise
that doesnt wokr
work
figured
but then where do I use noah
and whos the x in that team
rn its
blanc rh drake x centi
oh ik what if I do
blanc rh drake anis centi
noah scalter rapunzel biscuit noir
fuck its too slow

93.5
unless charge speed cube on rapun and biscuit makes that 3 RL
hmm
moran bisc scarW anis maiden/sugar/drake
noise noah rh Rapunzel centi
Scar blanc pepper jackal noir
i mean, u can try that
im just givin scarlet a bigger pp nuke here
cuz she matters more
put scalter in moran team
so no xanne
how much is your quantum cube lvl
i guess we can run
moran AnneMF scarwind biscuit anis
noise noah rh rapunzel centi
scar blanc pepper jackal noir
but then u put quantum cube on anis biscuit and AnneMF

is getting moran worth that tho
like would that make a significant impact on my team spread
okok what if I did
blanc red hood drake noir centi
noah scalter rapunzel biscuit anis
they’re both 3 RL

Idk yet
But I'm a bit confident that she's probably best pair for SAnis biscuit 
oh for sure
the dmg buff from s anis and biscuit will be enough to probably kill before the other team can full burst lol

who designed her burst skill? why is the burst weapon damage at level 10 lower than her ar damage?
you sure?
very sure
i smell another sneon
1.5 in PVP
I honestly thought it looked more like MG due to how fast she was shooting.
SMG doesn't fare well for her range and core hit percentage.


A megathread was locked 
Because too much cooking that it started chaos in the kitchen 
stuff like this
the def 3.51% should max out at 3.51% * 99 right?
at 100 u'd be dead?
Yes
If u want def, u can indom her
Totally the 350% def buff wont do shit

why?
ain't 350% mean she take 0 dmg?
huh

normally def = 12% of base atk
350% more = 50% of base atk
or you can think of - 50% atk debuff
which can be offset easily with +50% atk up

kona?
sến
now in clean from official post
Oh boy, we looking at another red hood situation? Or is this worse?
all talk about her have been held since she's in the game since leona
Redditors be like: trash, pvp exclusive unit, ez skip 
The way u tell if a unit is good is by going to reddit or twitter comments
And its the opposite
Just like rh on release ppl were pogging
Or hear Zxous' thoughts about it
Not knowing how game works

It literally always works other than for quiry
who cares bro. only your own opinion matters
Quiry was the only time everyone was right
Still pulling
Yeah
Save for past banners 
Nah, we saving for RH

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Time to use up all of your gacha luck to instant MCB her in 40 pulls
Just hit 2, 3, 3, 3, and done

I see Moran has Laplace like “can’t use cover while bursting” issue
I’ll still pull her 
So if Moran is for an S.Anis team, where does Dorothy go?
she gets a new b3
doro marciana b3 b3 priv
maybe smthng like
doro marciana maxwell priv modernia

but priv sanis combo
Trust the process bro
Moran SAnis combo


Feeling meh about this one. Haven't seen a good defender since I joined.
Is the HP gained during a Max HP boost retained?
Yes
So she can recover her HP effectively. When combined with a healer/her burst and her Def buff, she could withstand some blows.
However, that still won't let her tank a heavy blow as I imagine it doesn't roll the HP down, it just instantly subtract it so it won't proc her ability and save her from a nuke.
Maybe she could tank Harvestor's main laser, but dodging does the same thing.
Basically if Moran kit “works as head-hyped” then she’s going to sit at P1 (or P5 if you determine it’ll be attacked), soak damage, have 3 lives, be difficult to kill, and be able to burst in time to save the team’s collective asses from enemy AoE bursts like Scarlet, Maiden, Harran, etc… or just improve the stalling of the team because her burst buffs last 10s anyway.
She would be a miniature Noah in practice, at B1 instead of B2, and no invincibility but shaving off up to 35% damage taken (but who invests to level 10 skills for a purely PvP character?). She sounds awesome.
Solo Raid, no idea, but it wouldn’t be the first time we reached out to a tank to make the runs work. Diesel, Noah, Ludmilla, 2B, Noise, basically all saw ways to make the squad do better just because their damage dealers weren’t getting wrecked
The only one that hasn’t gotten any decent showing is Crow 😂
5 lives?
moran biscuit
Campaign, probably a no thanks except very specific situations but there would be multiple better solutions to it
Union Raid, “kekeke what is this, top 1,000?”
Maybe too many lives 😂 But yeah. That should work
Both are electric so it doesn’t even break synergy with S. Anis
i love it when people said we need testing for new nikkes these days, idek what/how these test conduct and for what purpose sometime

I think it’s only to shake out any quirks and bugs
Imagine if Moran had a bug where if Biscuit is on squad, she doesn’t get any extra lives from S2 
we dont do testing for bug
only snake does that
if it happens it happens u know
like we at the point where we see the kit, we see number we already know what this nikke does
Moram burst literally makes her weapon goess brrr lol
"Who invests to level 10 skills for a purely PvP character?" * me looking at myself right now in shambles *
hides my 4-7-10 Rosanna
So…how is she?
You, sir, i call a man of culture.
🤝 
you seem to have abundance amount of skill books
can you afford to upgrade 3 more characters?

I deal in skill books and dreams. Dreams are cheaper. 
I'm dry on skillbooks atm

dumped them on Blanc and Noir recently
How are moran’s skills at 1/1/1? Can she work at low investment?
time to run some test
Her S2 is 55%, 36%, 25% at LVL1
And burst taunt is 10s at LVL1
S2 taunt is 4s at LVL1
So basically she will already do her job at 1/1/1 in PvP unless the opponent is closely matched and is serious about PVP
Also questionable if your squad can survive a 80% power enemy Scarlet AoE with your Moran’s LVL1 burst
But 4/4/4 is easy enough
No idea what it goes up to but it should be between 21% and 35%
25% to 26% I’m guessing
hey is she any good?
Well her burst is 40s CD
So you have to judge by that
okay I got the number
Moran + Lud = 59473 (59.1%)
Lud solo = 92818 (36.24%)
Lud non buff = 145585
I'm turning my damage numbers on 
damn forget Lud reduces the atk a bit
but well, I guess this is how dmg reduction works
So, Moran is definitely worth a 1 pull?
if you care about pvp, maybe
21.78% Moran lv 1
35.82% Lud lv 1
otherwise in pvp her function is similar to lud
they probably stack on top each other
35.82 + 21.78 = 57.6%. 2% diff due to Moran also gives def
lud is 20s cd so it’s kinda okay-ish if pvp fight gets stalled
It seems she needs some hit rate

to get in core shots consistently
during burst
Moran basically can’t be salvaged for PvE and if there is a Solo Raid with her name on it, that’s a very niched Solo Raid
Dmg taken reduction is nice but it’s not the same as heals
True
40s cd b1 b2 nowadays = insta dead for pve
except for shit like rh or tia who for some reason have cd reduction gimmicks
The few Solo Raids she’ll excel at, probably, will involve using her damage reduction (and taunts) to get the squad to survive some mechanics that they couldn’t live through otherwise even with heals - because heals can’t save a 0 HP Nikke
I doubt it though
It’d be the kind of Solo Raid that crushes most commanders if that were to happen
rapun work,noise too
yea they work but your damage usually suffers a lot
unlike offensive healers like helm/biscuit
So is this not true anymore?
what's your verdict ?
what the fuck

ndeez nuts
Doro time end
i would just wait for reviews and testing
As doroless, yay
it's dorover

morgod
Her DMG is compared to scarlet in sanis team or nah?
little do you know
her dragon icon looks like a big head alien
short legs and long arms

Wait wth how can you see that
I got Moran to outperform Scarlet
Moran exceedingly beat Scarlet at sucking

does Moran have no spot in
team
What I did, I took squad into Mock vs Blacksmith
Had S Anis, Moran, Scarlet, etc
Guillotine too
Then I just beat Blacksmith
Checked damage readouts
1/1/1 skill, no OLs, she did as much damage as Noise who was also in the squad
But yeah something funny happened on my end
so moran is somehow worse smol white?
So doesn’t seem like she had any particular gains or advantage for being with S Anis, that “breaks the system” or anything
If one thinks S Anis buffing would bring her damage up to godly levels, keep in mind it’s S Anis own stats being used in buffing Moran
well assuming its SI that's not really news
the 3 circle QTE is a laser barrage that is guaranteed wipe
So… if that was only able to give her 4m dmg or something
It’s not going to be that exciting in SR
It's the 2 QTE
the one with the stun
yeah but you had to do the 3 QTE first
Yeah
I trust you
That when you say Morgod, you’re talking about Morganna which is a future unreleased Nikke

Her bond episodes doesn’t even get as steamy as Leona. RIP
in a hypothetical SR boss with a core, that does damage
sakura mast/novel s.anis guil morgod shud b good

I’ll just filthy casual it and still place top 3% 
I'll let reddit/maincord cry about it and then rocks become available to top 3% 
Now that’ll make whales race to the bottom hah
What kind of reaction is that? 
I KNOW, IT'S JUST ABOUT STONKS

unfortunately that would just give people no incentive to "try" and "buy/roll" for the cash shop/rate up nikke
that u asked why moran would have greater dmg than scarlet, who has a 115% attack buff

yes
she has a few things going for her
Verily, thine assumption is most accurate
Not even jiggles?
Yeah, can't heal

Plus I'm bugged by the....accuracy of her weapon change
I can barely get in core shots from mid to long range

But this bears the question, can Guillo be protected? 
why do u need core shots on a tank defender 
unless the core is a big glowing orb
uhhh more dmg? 

she has 2 taunts so probably
her ammo doesn't change with burst right
Can keep it up throughout a fight too
so 60 ammo at SMG speed
oh
20 bullets per second if SMG speed
yeah that's basically perma taunting them
… huh, that means nonstop taunting. Yeah
though that's only during burst
slight down time during off burst but generally we try to keep that to around 3-4 secs to full burst again during boss fights anyway
The only way things get uno reversed is if it turns out skill or burst levels affected her final attack during burst
I didn’t see anything like that
Plus S. Anis and Privaty can help in keeping the taunt up 
But I didn’t raise any skills either
Also Resilience Cube
But we can try Trial version of Moran
Is she ol worthy?
Thanks
tanky enough until mat H lasers or Harvester Laser 
MCB 
Time to go collect my new Viper lobby illustration
Just ran one test using Moran+Biscuit on PvP (0 OL and skills 4/4/4) and honestly she did awesome. I really like her.
She was able to hold the enemy team at bay for a while, and in the end only the enemy Rapunzel survived, who proceeded to burst and revive enemy Noise, which resulted in a loss. But nevertheless, it was awesome seeing she holding up against the entire team for so long
I wish i recorded it
Gonna try it again and record it once the guy in SP arena attacks me again~

Interesting
So she is bad?
morgod
Theorycrafting: How good (on PvP) would be a team that has Moran+Biscuit+Jackal and we can somehow manage to get Moran's attack high enough so she can receive Jackal's link 
- currently working on my Moran's gear *
@atomic oasisgonna ask you just a simple question because I'm dumb
does she do good damage in pve?
decent
how is she in pvp now?
Imo decent ungeared, especially when paired with Biscuit
good? bad? broken? bacon? need investment? rng prayers to burst dependent?
And my prediction is that she'll be awesome when properly geared and invested

That's awesome if she's not feeding Jackal or Emma
Welp, Emma is coming back as Moran counter, you hear this first here
weird flex but ok
ok I just tested in shooting range
this girl is giving quiry a run for her money because she can't hit cores worth a damn

She'll want some hit rate
I'm looking at her damage, stupid I know. But she does some
178-180~k with lock with moran compared to 144-150k with lock with noise, guillotine comp
just wait for a nikke that convert DEF into damage, problem solved
it's the usual comp with sakura/mast/sanis/guil, for people that don't have doro
in PVP, she should proc her S1 around 33 times
in PVE, it's 48 times
shooting dmg is 14.7% * 166 = 2440.2%
bonus dmg is 33*47.18% = 1556.94% (~39% total dmg)
the problem with guillotine comp is, she might get kicked out because people might end up using sanis more with
you-know-who
sanis is carrying electric code on her doughy fat ass


Her booba awesome / 10
Bro playing on 17 pixels
On the Samsung smart fridge
What's the investment in moran
4-4-4 full t9m
Also, gave her Resilience for this run

Wtf
Thats pretty good
4-4-4 is nothing
T9m lvl0 is nothing


tbf here, my Rosanna has like 2 lines of atk
His Rosanna is burst lvl10
4-7-10 atm
With 3k% nuke
hmm
Still, the damage output isn't smthng insane
Imma 7-10-10 after I'm done optimizing the bunnies and JKs 
Yeah it isn't much PvE wise
If only SU buffs Rosanna's scaling to like 6% at least 
ok so Moran isnt good for pve but what about pvp?
Updated pin
she not really change anything
now any test how well she does? cant imagine a lot of good options being a burst 1 AR
typo... shes b1
another skip like i thought 
she can block unbuff scar burst, but we already has noise for that

Yes but this means noise can go in another team
3 AoE blocks possible
That's pretty good

need to see if she can block scar xanne/blanc or not
yea but Noise got them heals, moran does not
not die to scar burst = blocked
Ooh
I don't have noise 
I just made sure the last bullet would hit the train
And force the missiles to target her
Orrr
Ok wait
Imma record later

It's a little hard to explain
She can block Scar burst but u lose*
Noise heals btw

Also grants damage reduc
U might have won that with Noise
Lmao
I told u Moran is shit
Need Mast
No Mast, no Moran
Mast gives def down = atk boost
Nvm
Moran died on impact awwww
So sad
Alright chat.
How bad is she
it's good
The duality of a man
Ive never said she is good
In fact I said skip
Unless u wanna run Guillotine
Where is good in Morgood
So pvp unit.
Snake its a must pull for you
Morgod is only Lud replacement in pvp with Noise capability

so i get to ignore another unit yay
https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1172325378887528480.webp?size=48
NO ITS NOT MF

shut it bitch
still work?
it works better than the usual cope pve team with noise sakura and mast+guil
gets 20-30% more damage from my locked shooting range tests

seeing guil hits like 10% hp is sketch though 
moran burst not mg doesnt change anything?
isnt it an infinite smg
Special smg
yeah, it's the shittest weapon yet
even if it fires with infinite ammo and synergies well with her kit
So is moran worth pulling?
are u new to the game?
skip
Alr
yeah if you are still stuck at the 160 wall you're still considered new kek
i thought she only useable in pve if her burst is mg... core hit with extra atk buff from sanis
I wonder if moran will be good for mother whale
Im currently stuck on chapter 21
Noise is good but i dont have her so i dont know how reliable compared to her
dont bother
So, doro can breathe one more time
morgod
mormid
morad sound better
Morgod
No
Guillo has higher dmg
On paper
Its cus Guillo was setbavk by noise burst
Guillo has much better hitrate
When boss core is small guillo shines
If next boss is land eater
Then gg
Optimizing team 5

Fighting over glory and gems in the top 50 
Marci was kinda well-received no ?
p sure marci was recommended as a "skip" from research lab
because pepega does no dmg
Actually she had the “skip” recommendation I believe, at best 1 copy
Snake recommendation 
next dps character ima evaluate their tanking capabilities and then recommend a skip
Yep. Then it turned out she at least really smoothens out team 3 in UR (heals yay!)

i went with the horni and pull for her, 70 pulls actually
Not every union has commanders that can ignore incoming damage in UR, that probably tainted the skip recommendation since maybe the person analyzing basically doesn’t need heals in UR
Moran is a lot easier though
Less riskier to call
but Moran is b1
She’s so far trash and extremely niche in that you’re coping with getting Guillotine to do more output with her
PvP good/decent though
And SR has its own culture
Serious people there love Moran
i mean its
PVP - pull; UR - dont pull ; SR - pull
thats 2/3
marci is PVP - dont pull; UR - pull; SR- pull
2/3
most unit gonna be in the dont pull category for UR from now onward i feels like
True. Still. I should point out… UR has bigger weight than both PvP and SR for unions, and PvP depends on the players… Rookie Arena doesn’t care as much, SP Arena might care but you’re still looking at having to defend against 2 dedicated attacking squads
Reason Rookie Arena doesn’t care as much, basically having Noah is still the godly part because it enables using Noise B1 or whatever B1 you want
champion arena coming soon 🧑🦽
And SR pull is for a boundary team.. basically it’s a team that probably swings your overall SR damage by a bit compared to the swing generated by the other 3-4 teams
So I’d say Moran feels like a weak addition even if you tried to use her well
(Other than for PvP, probably)
It’s not that Moran makes Guillotine go from 0 dmg to 666m dmg
It’s that supposedly she’ll make it so Guillotine doesn’t have to cope with someone unwantedly healing her
there is no realistic way to run guillotine in SR right now, except for some wacky kira iframing shit
So it’s more like 400m dmg vs 500m diff or something like that
guillo cant be run since volume is pulled to tia/naga or bunnies
meaning volume + noise cant be combined with guillo
but moran opens up the sakura cdr + moran to be combined with guillo
achieves an attack buff and full taunt
we havent seen true guillo runs since whitesmith
But at the cost of using Sakura and Moran in those slots… wait for them to turn obsolete when Chime and Crown comes out 
where she can fire 3 min straight
Well, it might work out anyway. If you pull her for PvP, and invest
Then that means she’s invested for SR too
Whats your pvp log looks like?
Like I wasn’t attacked other than tiny probes for… 180+ days?

(Sitting at rank 1 in Rookie and SP) 


























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