[Leona] New Unit Megathread

[half mica]

after Moran, what we need to wait for the next duos, next pilgrims and so on

[dapper swallow]

may be it's actually legit?

nah let Coach ride that train

[craggy shuttle]

We're really just coping so hard

[rancid furnace]

most sane chatter

[half mica]

I wish Moran is a CDR, but knowing Shift Up?! Eh...

[craggy shuttle]

40s CDR like sakura

[half mica]

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-no-angry-steve-carell-michael-scott-gif-5606969

[steep cargo]

Isn't this fucking @weak shell

[gentle spoke]

Cool down effect only lasts for 1 burst and never comes back.

[warped cape]

blud is being exposed

[weak shell]

?

[rancid furnace]

is that you on twitter?

[dapper swallow]

defend yourself

[weak shell]

@little pike give context

[steep cargo]

Nah no context saving you bro

[warped cape]

nah its joeover bro

[rancid furnace]

THATS HIM

[bitter prairie]

probably Ein and Zwei

Oh boi....

[dapper swallow]

it's joever

[rich mist]

https://tenor.com/view/caught-in-4k-gif-6887071307252446127

[craggy shuttle]

Please don't be Tetra twins again

[half mica]

are they elysion?

[dapper swallow]

But it's actually

Dorover

[weak shell]

That’s my PlayStation account binded, not Twitter

[bitter prairie]

DING DING DING DING!! IT'S TETRA AGAIN

[dapper swallow]

[steep cargo]

Not confirmed

[gentle spoke]

https://tenor.com/view/caught-in-4k-meme-sus-gif-12038320933253907802

[craggy shuttle]

PLEASE BE ELYSION

FUC

NOOOOO

[rancid furnace]

ohhhh imagine we also get elysion duo

[half mica]

Imagine they are missilis

[rancid furnace]

nah that's the exact name you aint getting out of this one

[half mica]

cuz civilian nikke usually missilis

[bitter prairie]

They're Rei's squadmates, so Tetra

[craggy shuttle]

[half mica]

Probably Tetra again

[mild hawk]

Admi is kinda civilian and is elysion… cope hope

[half mica]

Design doesn't look anything like Elysion tho

[craggy shuttle]

Squads can have mixed manufacturers

[mild hawk]

wait not admi

Miranda is mean

[craggy shuttle]

Admi is Missilis

[mild hawk]

I mix the names

[craggy shuttle]

Oh

[half mica]

Miranda is kinda miltary ish?

[mild hawk]

Yeee my bad

[craggy shuttle]

Yeah

[mild hawk]

Yes shes a cop

[bitter prairie]

Zwei's hair pin has the Tetra logo

I dunno about Ein tho

[half mica]

yeah Elysion design is Military-ish

[craggy shuttle]

Dammit

[half mica]

yup, the duos definitely not those two

[craggy shuttle]

ROUGE PLEASE BE GOOD

[half mica]

next duos should be Elysion, if not. Shift Up drank to much weed

[rancid furnace]

we got more mixed squads than this

[bitter prairie]

Tbh if that's gonna be the case, I think it would make sense for K's kit to at least compliment with D's

[half mica]

maybe it's K, and with another new nikke

[dapper swallow]

D stands for

[craggy shuttle]

Complete the squad with I and C

[dapper swallow]

Does nothing

[half mica]

Or just bring out Mana FFS

[bitter prairie]

Then we wait for I and C to complete Perilous Siege

[dapper swallow]

so K should be: Kidding, sike!

[craggy shuttle]

MMR and Master Hand needs attention fr

[half mica]

or just make them more skimpy, for mo money

[bitter prairie]

MMR = Missilis Milkers Reaserchers

[weak shell]

Anyways that’s the context

[dapper swallow]

WAIT

serious

[bitter prairie]

THE MAN HIMSELF

[dapper swallow]

I see its use case now

against Glass

[bitter prairie]

Try hitting Glass from afar

[dapper swallow]

2 is better than 1

[half mica]

just use MG heroes then

[dapper swallow]

what if I don't have MG

[weak shell]

Doesn’t Leo buff range?

[dapper swallow]

what if my phone is 30 fps

[bitter prairie]

Ah true

[dapper swallow]

not that range

man

[bitter prairie]

What do they meant with s1 btw?

[steep cargo]

Tf is glass

[dapper swallow]

if you want to hit better afar targets

you need hit rate

[bitter prairie]

That tanky healer rapture that has a shield that goes down per hit

[weak shell]

A boss

[dapper swallow]

Leona increases the range which you gain bonus range dmg (30%)

[half mica]

use pierce

[dapper swallow]

pierce can't pierce glass

[weak shell]

It’s a regular rapture? Doesn’t it have a boss variant too?

[steep cargo]

That doesn't help one bit
50 more shots during full burst is nothing
MG is hitting 60 per sec

[bitter prairie]

For some reason RH can, but I guess elemental interaction is a factor

[half mica]

which boss have glass shield?

[bitter prairie]

or I'm just trippin

[weak shell]

I think you are

[bitter prairie]

An Elite

[craggy shuttle]

Isn't glass that one rapture that only appeared once in an event

[weak shell]

I used rh before and it didn’t work

[dapper swallow]

you just trippin

only Blanc

and Novel

can bypass that shit

[craggy shuttle]

And just sits in the furthest distance doing nothing

[bitter prairie]

But yeah, there's also a Lord class variant

[dapper swallow]

because they work as 100% dmg reduction - their debuff = real dmg taken

[half mica]

I'll use diesel instead then, to complicated for my low IQ brain

[dapper swallow]

so they can bypass the shield

[weak shell]

Honestly just use Modernia

She shred the fuck out of that shield

[dapper swallow]

30 fps?

hell no

just use Leona + SG

trust

[bitter prairie]

Ohhhhhh

[weak shell]

Bastion infinite ammo

[bitter prairie]

I get it now

[half mica]

I guess, Leona is 30fps mobile user meta then? noted.

[dapper swallow]

gotta take care them all

[steep cargo]

It kill xLud and modernia so it pushes up others

[bitter prairie]

SAMSUNG USERS, RISE UP

[half mica]

That's so mindful of shiftup, farmer mobile user can play nikke now

[steep cargo]

Anyone playing at 20fps, probably shouldn't use MGs

[dapper swallow]

SG we wuz kang

[half mica]

time to upgrade my xiaomi phone then, fam

[silk current]

100% safe to skip?

[bitter prairie]

Nah, my Samsung usually hits at 50ish fps

[mild hawk]

Shes gonna spook you when u pull for crown anyway

[half mica]

unless we are in 2025, which there will be a meta SG DPS carry hero, so no

[craggy shuttle]

Yes unless proven otherwise in release

[weak shell]

Also

You think Tove will get replaced soon?

[craggy shuttle]

Better than a Crow spook

[weak shell]

Or b3 sg user with cdr soon?

[craggy shuttle]

looks at my core 1 crow

[silk current]

tks god she not useful even with tove, i can save 6600 gems on selector box banner too

[weak shell]

Cause neither Tove or Leo have cdr

[dapper swallow]

attack capabilities

I guess crit is so trash

they have to rename it

[craggy shuttle]

[dapper swallow]

EN trans is bad as always

[rancid furnace]

anything happened while i got food?

[weak shell]

[dapper swallow]

should change it into "Offensive Power"

sound "powerful"

ngl

[mild hawk]

Ryan lore lets fucking go

[bitter prairie]

Privaty came by and told me to tell you she said "Hi"

[weak shell]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1003718778258980944/1194245880128208936/image0.png?ex=65afa725&is=659d3225&hm=253b6ee4047ed1f4de70a12d00fb7d615a16e1e60f9b20a29da28405a16b53a2&

[rancid furnace]

aww thank you

[bitter prairie]

cold hands

[weak shell]

Grabbing extra ammunition

Also anyone else think she got makima eyes?

[rancid furnace]

she does

[bitter prairie]

I thought I was the only one

[rancid furnace]

might as well call the dog Denji

[weak shell]

Yeah I didn’t see anyone else comment on it

[dapper swallow]

damn

[weak shell]

Which is also weird because it’s a lion

[dapper swallow]

I forgot to shut reddit down

[weak shell]

I’ve never seen a lion look like that

[dapper swallow]

time to silence them\

[rancid furnace]

now what if...

[dapper swallow]

[weak shell]

The first time I saw it, I thought it was an overgrown dog

[craggy shuttle]

I'd say that it'd be insignificant

Cause you can also crit less

[spare zenith]

She is the skip anyway, no matter how her pellets increase works

[dapper swallow]

I'd say crit is trash

[craggy shuttle]

crit is shit

[rancid furnace]

crit THIS

[half mica]

so much cope

please more...

[dapper swallow]

if Leona was good

I could pair her with my naga

she has 27% atk

[craggy shuttle]

2-2-1?

Or naga solo

[dapper swallow]

my naga is stronk

than any SG I have

[craggy shuttle]

Naga DPS it is

[dapper swallow]

[rancid furnace]

Leona IS good...

... for breeding. her kit sucks

[dapper swallow]

too little spacing

🚮

[craggy shuttle]

[rancid furnace]

right

[half mica]

Naga and Noir meta, Let's Go!

[bitter prairie]

CHOCO META LET'S FOOKING GOO

[weak shell]

If only Leo was b1

Screw Tove

She’s a fucking AR who buffs shot gun

[warm barn]

Tove is the best support wdym

[dapper swallow]

and buffs so hard

[warm barn]

SG cant perform with Leona and without Tove

[dapper swallow]

the chef is back

[rich mist]

[dapper swallow]

🍽️

[weak shell]

And neither of them have Cdr

[bitter prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/capybara-let-him-cook-gif-11999534059191155013

[weak shell]

People just gonna use liter or volume for b1 over Tove

[warm barn]

No

[mild hawk]

Hear me out, crown shorgun, she boosts hitrate by 100% during burst, pair with JK , full core hit on shotgun for everyone and extra core damage

[warm barn]

Crown is MG

We alr know

[bitter prairie]

:pog:

[weak shell]

It can change tho

[mild hawk]

Didnt the crown mg leak say dorothy is b3

[bitter prairie]

ignore the expired nitro guys

[weak shell]

Yeah leaks aren’t set in stone

[warm barn]

No

Lorax said Crown is MG

[weak shell]

I’ve seen leaks of crown being RL before

[warm barn]

Its in the code brother

[weak shell]

https://tenor.com/view/lorax-the-lorax-speak-for-the-trees-guardian-of-the-forest-gif-18383688

[half mica]

yeah, then Shift up be liike.... nah make her SG even though it doesn't make sense

[mild hawk]

She has a lance anything could make sense

[weak shell]

I’ve seen RL before

[bitter prairie]

Even in the current source code?

[faint rampart]

Is Leona looking like a safe skip?

[dapper swallow]

Crown is MG

[rancid furnace]

yep

[dapper swallow]

same as Leona

[weak shell]

Only if you don’t main Shotgun

[dapper swallow]

Leona was MG in json

[faint rampart]

Great

[dapper swallow]

[weak shell]

Same situation as Tove

[dapper swallow]

now she's trash

[faint rampart]

I don’t have any shotguns invested. Probably won’t for a while

[weak shell]

Only pull if you simp or main shotgun character like Drake or Sugar

[bitter prairie]

Not planning to go building 100% Sugar atm. I have alot of Nikkes to upgrade right now

[half mica]

if your Sugar is core 7, i recommend pull for Leona

[weak shell]

Me neither

Just got my naga to full 10

Now she’s my 2nd highest bp

wtf

[faint rampart]

I just started using shotgun comp for SI grave digger

[weak shell]

[warm barn]

Sugar is scary in pvp too

[faint rampart]

But they are all 1/1/1 lol

[weak shell]

I just use RH

[warm barn]

Sugar + Blanc + RH = Alice

[weak shell]

Don’t need liter

[faint rampart]

Huh

I can’t one shot him with RH

Need a few cycles

[warm barn]

Drake + Blanc + RH = nuke

[bitter prairie]

lemme drop that clip of 100% hit rate Sugar from JP

[warm barn]

[weak shell]

Just 1 rotation it

[faint rampart]

I’m missing naga and noir

[dapper swallow]

no need naga and noir

[warm barn]

Nah wrong

Tia RH Blanc Alice Mod

[dapper swallow]

try Tia Blanc Red Max Xlud/Alice

whatever

[faint rampart]

I’m missing blanc

🙂

[dapper swallow]

then do normal rotation

[steep cargo]

@warm barn so we either need:

• passive healer+cdr
• sg with cdr+heals

For tove and Leona to activate?

[faint rampart]

That’s why I’m using shotgun lol

[warm barn]

No need heals

[weak shell]

Use selector

[warm barn]

Can use Marciana

Ditch Guilty

[steep cargo]

But that's DPS loss, can't compete with SW then can it?

[faint rampart]

I’m waiting to get 2/3 of my missing units and selecting the last one

[warm barn]

Wdym

Guilty and Sugar have same dmg

[steep cargo]

Yeah but u want 2DPS

[bitter prairie]

100% Hit Rate Sugar

[craggy shuttle]

RL that reduces CD by 0.3 seconds on full charge

[steep cargo]

Sugar isn't SW level damage
You can't put her in with 4 supports

[warm barn]

Then u want B3 DPS or Healer with CDR

[warm barn]

Sugar is SW level dmg lol

SW is just getting pierce

No pierce

She is super super super super weak

[weak shell]

So I can either use selector on any of those

Or mlb either Tia or Noir

[steep cargo]

Not that much bruh

[warm barn]

Just look at this boss

MatH

With no parts

She cant do shit

[steep cargo]

It has boss core

[warm barn]

Yeah so what

[steep cargo]

Double hit

[warm barn]

SG would do more if the core is 50x larger

[steep cargo]

50×

Is unrealistic

[warm barn]

SG miss like 75% shots

In that boss

SG would easily win

[faint rampart]

Biscuit. Great for pvp

[warm barn]

Someone proved that

Against Chatterbox

SG almost hit SW

[dapper swallow]

full invested SG team 900m?

vs full invested SW team 1b6?

[warm barn]

In a boss with 3 pierce

[dapper swallow]

[steep cargo]

No it didn't

[warm barn]

SG team doesnt vary much. Most are 800-900. SW varies from low 800 to 1.6b

[steep cargo]

SW team was doing bonkers damage in CB

If played properly

[warm barn]

Can easily tell its investment diff

[steep cargo]

Tove team was team 5 replacement

[warm barn]

But for most people SG will do more

But with Leona and soon future unit, I expect 1.2b+ upwards

Consistent dmg across all bosses

Except when the boss body is like MatH

Which is rare

But Leona kinda fixes that a little

And Sugar can now reach extremely crazy hitrate

Hell it might be another B2 unit

Or B1

With CDR

And lots of passive buffs

But Tove + Leona is perfect

ATK, AtK Spd, Crit rate, crit dmg, distance bonus, pellet boost

None of them dilutes each other

[steep cargo]

Tbf SW is also pretty mald
For chiller players maybe tove Leona would turn out to be better

[warm barn]

Now we just need a CDR B3

Regardless of the role

Healer or DPS

If DPS, ditch Guilty

[steep cargo]

It won't compete with SW tho
Its still a team 5 competition overall

I just compared to SW since you wanted to propose a team with 4 supports for sugar

[warm barn]

If healer, just slap Guilty

And if both

Maybe not healer

Maybe its Viper

Maybe CDR with taunt

And immunity?

[lime patrol]

So basically a critical dmg dealer that can give ammo and make shotgun aim better

skip? i want to skip, i'm broke...

[dapper swallow]

skeep

[lime patrol]

Leona is Julia but on shotgun side

[dapper swallow]

and she doesn't give ammo

[lime patrol]

unless the game make crit formula better, crig dmg dealer is always suck...

[dapper swallow]

she has so little ammo that she can store between her boobs

[lime patrol]

she give max ammo, no?

[spiral beacon]

She give pellets not ammo

[lime patrol]

oh, so she increase number of pellets for each shot

how terrible that buff though? beside better spread range, i don't see much of dmg potential

[spiral beacon]

[craggy shuttle]

Exactly why she's a skip lmao

[dapper swallow]

it's not terrible

it's not great

either

[craggy shuttle]

wasted potential

[dapper swallow]

it doesn't change anything

[rancid furnace]

[craggy shuttle]

I was expecting the lvl 1 datamine burst to triple the crit dmg buff

[lime patrol]

Unfair treatment, why Sugar is not burst 2...

[craggy shuttle]

In the end, they still make crit dmg buffs like attack buffs when the damage calculations are miles apart from each other

[lime patrol]

(I have her skin, i just want a reason to use Sugar)

[dapper swallow]

drink coffee

that's how you need sugar

[lime patrol]

other gacha games make crit into massive dmg
NIKKE make crit into a joke

[craggy shuttle]

Which is really damn weird

Like you can cook with pure crit buffs in FGO how come Nikke can't

[lime patrol]

iirc, crit dmg is plus, not multiply like usual crit dmg in games?

[half mica]

I don't get it why korean developers can't do crit math, they're korean tho

[dapper swallow]

nah, they used to make crit so broken that

[craggy shuttle]

Crit dmg in nikke is additive

So yeah

[dapper swallow]

a 150s raid

[lime patrol]

fuck...

[dapper swallow]

was killed under 15s

due to crit

they learnt from that mistake

I guess too much

[lime patrol]

i mean for real, critical dmg is basically a gacha during normal atks, so make it worth the risk

[craggy shuttle]

But why do they still give crit buffs that have values that would work for multiplying modifiers

The only crit buff i respect in the game is Maiden's

Because it's big enough

[dapper swallow]

huh

Mast?

Miranda too

[craggy shuttle]

I forgot mast's values

[dapper swallow]

[lime patrol]

devs just try to be unique tbh

critical is not news in a shooting game

[dapper swallow]

problem with crit is

[lime patrol]

many games have done that

[dapper swallow]

Corehit (headshot) exists

[craggy shuttle]

corehit buffs being additive is okay

but it's because Naga's buffs are huge when with Tia

[dapper swallow]

if crit was too good, no one cares about core hit, which just reverses the current situation

[lime patrol]

just add more math into it...

multiply when hit core, beside the dmg formula is universal

players have to compete with each other anyway

[craggy shuttle]

It'd be fine if Crit Damage stayed Additive really

Just up the values by default

Don't put values like how you would do with attack buffs

It's rather funny how attack has two different buffs that just work almost the same as well

[dapper swallow]

a standalone factor will allow crit to go overboard really quick

1.4 (blanc) x 1.3 (Tia) x 2.7 (FB + Range + Core) x 1.5 (crit)

yike

SI 3s?

[lime patrol]

i thought Asian are supposed to good at math

math is flexible

there are always ways to make it calculate the value near you want it to be.

[dapper swallow]

this was the previous dmg formula back then in Destiny Childs

[craggy shuttle]

I'm Asian and I'm not good with math please stop the stereotype

[lime patrol]

Are you a Korean by chance working for ShiftUp

[craggy shuttle]

hello Asian

[dapper swallow]

huh

[craggy shuttle]

I'M FILIPINO

[dapper swallow]

what was wrong

in my sentence?

[lime patrol]

Are you a Filipino by chance go to Korea to work for ShiftUp

[lime patrol]

you are not racing enough.

[dapper swallow]

https://tenor.com/view/drake-drake-nikke-nikke-nikke-drake-gif-10830024513870136689

[craggy shuttle]

I'm studying.. in College...

[dapper swallow]

I'm also studying

on how to squeeze player's money

or our game goes bankrupt

[lime patrol]

Anyway, skip Leona, save gems

[craggy shuttle]

I'll save for collab and half anni

I will not yield even if Rouge gets released

(lies)

[dapper swallow]

you will fall for Moron

I call it first

[craggy shuttle]

40s CDR B1 SG

[bitter prairie]

Try to lucksack, and save gems. Got it!

[dapper swallow]

she's RL

man Leona so dead that we talk about other chick in her thread

[rancid furnace]

current leaks say different

[bitter prairie]

Wait for Moran

because she has lovely booba

and also a lovely Moron

[dawn mesa]

So, how is she? not must pull?

[rancid furnace]

skip or get a single copy if rich

[dawn mesa]

skip then

[shut acorn]

man I really wanted to start saving after the Black Scarlet banner

but now knowing that the next banner is a literal upgrade to my Sugar SG team, im fucked

anyway the best SG team after the update should be Tove-Leona-Sugar-Drake-flex right?

[dapper swallow]

upgrade?

[rancid furnace]

you see that? shat is forced to pull

[little pike]

Why am i here. I dont remember clicking this

[rancid furnace]

vector pinged you earlier for some context

[little pike]

OH THAT

[little pike]

Ye i made a comment making fun of korean calling her a breeder saying someone is going to say id breed or or i want her to breed me.
Then he posted that

[shut acorn]

i have to if it means improving my Sugar team

i already have 200 gold tickets to get Leona but it still kinda stings

[shut acorn]

in a shotgun only team ye

[dapper swallow]

what does she upgrade?

crit?

[whole berry]

sugar dps

[dapper swallow]

which does pretty much very smol?

[whole berry]

this the hell named "waifu over meta"

[shut acorn]

crit, max range and pellets

[dapper swallow]

Pellets

[shut acorn]

honestly they shouldve gave her Attack increase instead of Crits

make my Sugar damage grow

[dapper swallow]

[shut acorn]

yeah thats the thing with pellets

[dapper swallow]

max range here means the range bonus

[rancid furnace]

honestly

[dapper swallow]

30% dmg

[shut acorn]

it basically increases the area the shotgun shoots

[rancid furnace]

if they remove the pellet part she might be better than bad

[dapper swallow]

if you run Sugar, do you even need spread?

you have so high hit rate right?

[shut acorn]

eh? more chances to hit your shit

[dapper swallow]

[shut acorn]

yeah my Sugar shoots fast

[dapper swallow]

nah

[rancid furnace]

the literally funniest part is that both HR and pellets are in the same skill

[dapper swallow]

hit rate =/= attack speed

hit rate = less spread

[shut acorn]

yeah i know that

but regardless my Sugar goes brrr during Burst

thanks to Tove and etc.

[dapper swallow]

in that case, I'm sure you can replace Leona with Dolla

pretty much the same

[shut acorn]

i could've easily skipped Leona if she was anything but a B2 tbh

[steep cargo]

What are dolla crit buffs like

[shut acorn]

yeah but come on, i want an SG only team

[dapper swallow]

Dolla gives attack

[shut acorn]

gotta maintain quota

[dapper swallow]

[steep cargo]

Tru

[shut acorn]

whats your SG team by the way?

[rancid furnace]

dolla crit buffs are less than half of leona but at least she brings CDR and atk buff

[little pike]

Anw so uuuh. Skip

[shut acorn]

god save me

🙏

[whole berry]

wait dolla had buffs

[little pike]

Ur a coomer to 11.9k people

[weak shell]

Not even 80 likes

[little pike]

Now its 80

[weak shell]

Cool

[rancid furnace]

i'm one of them

[blissful harbor]

[sacred heath]

midona

[whole berry]

leover

[bitter prairie]

Ngl though, the fact that there's no damage increase despite the pellets increasing is a bit....stupid

It would've been ok if it did

[whole berry]

wait... is she nude waist below ?

[bitter prairie]

No, it's just the lighting

[whole berry]

[dapper swallow]

Sussy

[bitter prairie]

Just the lighting

[radiant anvil]

So this is just summer Anis buff?

[steep cargo]

This is

Easy skip

Don't worry about anything else rn

[final drum]

Yeah Leona is an ez skip

Even Tove is just enough for a SG supporter

[radiant anvil]

Imma spend 1 multi

Then pray in standard I guess

[final drum]

However if you want Leona
Go with Tove|Leona|Noir/Sugar|Drake|Flex like everyone said

The problem is that you have to manual Leona to make her shoot continuously guessing that she has 3-divided reload clips to maintain her stacks.

[final drum]

Maybe you're on to something here.

[rancid furnace]

give her the Tove treatment: skip banner and add to wishlist

[final drum]

Leona can also work with the Privaty comp

Any|Any|Leona|SAnis|Priv

[bitter prairie]

Now that you mention it

[rancid furnace]

not worth honestly

[final drum]

Not saying it's worth

It could be a 4fun comp

[rancid furnace]

but look at it realisticly. can you use that team in SR? no. UR? no.

it's really just a team to mess around with

[final drum]

I mean yeah what else you can do with that comp?

[lost bluff]

U realistically not running tia + blanc unless it some meme 1 shot team.

Base crit rate is only 15% anyways

So its more like 1.075x on avg.

[final drum]

Not everyone can be competitive

And I'm here to have fun

Look I already made some wacky comps like triple B1 XLud core with Xrupee or my crazy full Electric team.

[sacred heath]

would be funny if we have to pull this girl for overlocked mode

[potent radish]

Must have Leona or you can't start oversimul room

[slim meteor]

skip leona banner ?

[rancid furnace]

[craggy shuttle]

i just hope new sim room will allow more Nikkes to shine

[swift marsh]

Leona's kit looks boring.

Add with Tove and call it a day.

[whole berry]

sky is really trying hard huh

[silk current]

b3 healer with cdr?

[rancid furnace]

that's alot of copium

[silk current]

it gonna be a pilgrim

[spare zenith]

No point to sell Sugar, cause she is standard banner unit

[swift marsh]

Is Leona's kit even good without Tove?

[potent radish]

Isabel

[whole berry]

backread a bit, I already claimed this cope

[trim echo]

folks, it's not looking good

the exodia obviously needs one last piece

[rancid furnace]

there is no last piece

[lime patrol]

So the increase of bullets only to increase aoe, the spread, it buff during burst so it won't boost burst generation

and unless there is a buff that counting pellets aka more pellets more atk, that shit is almost useless

Honestly, pellets buff should be like active skill with a cooldown

so at least when burst is off-cooldown, Shotgun team can get the buff and generate burst faster

[craggy shuttle]

honestly i wonder what's the point of those extra pellets anyway

[lime patrol]

it add more dmg

but can be missed

[craggy shuttle]

the total dmg stay the same

[lime patrol]

or even miss the core if the core is too small

[sly sand]

All illusion

[craggy shuttle]

so each pellets deal less dmg but there's more pellets

[trim echo]

final b3 needed
needs to be a shotty
needs to solve cdr and heal issues
the worst part is, this unit will be used more in other teams instead of a shotty team

[lime patrol]

so the only benefit is increase spread

[sly sand]

Damn they cook anachiro next unit good

Copium

[whole berry]

more hits counts on a smaller aoe

[dapper swallow]

right below that chat

[lime patrol]

well, at least my gems are safe

[whole berry]

omg I get it, she is a counter to hitshields

next boss has a hitshiled 100%

[dapper swallow]

ikr

[lime patrol]

who use shotgun against hitshields

[sly sand]

But hitshield floating not near

[dapper swallow]

it will be near

for the sake of SG

[sly sand]

And it is too late

[lime patrol]

actually, the spread is very good in pvp

[sly sand]

When asteroid near

[trim echo]

you just need 4 high tier hit rate OL, nothing too bad

[dapper swallow]

huh

[trim echo]

[lime patrol]

because that one of main reason you use shotgun in pvp

[dapper swallow]

in pvp there's no spread

whatchu mean?

[whole berry]

I did, sugar/noir was my mvp on these stages. thats why I got to nihil

[dapper swallow]

SG always hit in PVP, no core hit though

[lime patrol]

fuck...

HAPPY ZOO IS NOT HAPPY

Biscuit is the only useful member

she can be use in raid or PvP

[shut acorn]

☕

[craggy shuttle]

biscuit is a sleeper unit

[dapper swallow]

nah

think

think harder

because they are weak

so they don't have to fight

happy forever

look at grandma

[craggy shuttle]

tell that to Nero

[dapper swallow]

she has to fight every single battle

[sly sand]

Next banner be elysion, right

[dapper swallow]

Tetra

[sly sand]

No

After happy zoo

[dapper swallow]

ah

Moran?

Tetra

[craggy shuttle]

yes

[dapper swallow]

[craggy shuttle]

another month of tetra

[sly sand]

e.h will save elysion

[shut acorn]

more Tetra lets go

[lime patrol]

datamine show another Tetra unit...

yeah...

Elysion is the least favorite

[craggy shuttle]

would be interesting if the pellets actually deal dmg, but lower the pellets count

[dapper swallow]

Elose

1 pellet but deal full 250% dmg

every shot you gacha

4% to hit

[lime patrol]

i bet it could increase burst generation IF NOT USE DURING BURST...

[dapper swallow]

[shut acorn]

1 nuke per pellet

[dapper swallow]

actually

it's called

Shifty

[shut acorn]

not permanent tho

[lime patrol]

we know a unit is bad when Kisenix is not cooking

[dapper swallow]

he did

you just miss it

[rancid furnace]

kisenix cooked alot. conclusion: bad unit

[trim echo]

SG is in such a bad state that it needs a minimum of 3 new modern units to fix it

[torpid isle]

Isabel burst

[steep cargo]

He literally showed Leona output = Tia

And dipped

He elaborated quite adequately

But he also said we need one more unit so

[craggy shuttle]

would Tove alone be enough to enable the sg dps ?

[dapper scarab]

Surely the unit will come soon

[steep cargo]

Not alone no, cdr and healing is major issue

We need cdr+healer to enable this team

[trim echo]

b3 cdr healer, lmao insta roll

[swift marsh]

You know instead of making 20+ shotgun only supports, they could just make a strong shotgun DPS.

[steep cargo]

Not even b3

Just give passive heals + passive cdr

[craggy shuttle]

that's already too good by itself

Shelm is almost useless outside her cdr

and she still used a lot, just because of the cdr

same shit with volume

[swift marsh]

Which is why they haven't just given it out. They know CDR is instant value on its own

[craggy shuttle]

a b3 cdr gonna change a lot of things

[lime patrol]

"Courageous Look"
i read as "Cancerous Look"

[sacred heath]

this meta needs Nayuta, the camel pilgrim girl

[trim echo]

aaah yes, let's saturate the atk pilgrim pool more

[rancid furnace]

the what

[warm barn]

Someone tagged me here

On mobile

[whole berry]

uhh let me find

[potent radish]

@warm barn

[rancid furnace]

[potent radish]

Hi, so pellets=rip leona

[whole berry]

last mention is from snake but you responded to it, probably a mobile discord problem

[warm barn]

No

Im sorry

I got it wrong

It was in pvp discussion

LOL

[whole berry]

🤣

its ok

[warm barn]

Honestly

My impression of this

Just slap Pepper

Ditch Leona

Jk

Technically dmg is still higher

With Leona

Unless Pepper is OLed

[lime patrol]

Hey, at least she have big badonkers

[dapper swallow]

[rancid furnace]

extremely breedable, yes

[dapper swallow]

any1 complains in maincord yet?

tell them don't

[whole berry]

its maincord

they will complain either way

[warm barn]

I MEAN WHATS THE PURPOSE OF EXTRA PELLET IF NOT BURST GEN

ARE THEY GONNA MAKE ISABEL GREAT AGAIN?

MAYBE 5S BURST, WITH 10S BURST REDUCTION?

[lime patrol]

I KNOW RIGHT

IT SHOULD BE ACTIVE SKILL WITH A COOLDOWN

[warm barn]

• Activates at the end of Full Burst. Affects all allies.
  For each ally with a Shotgun in team, Skill CD -2.7s.

[lime patrol]

OR CONDITION TRIGGERS

[warm barn]

New unit leak

[whole berry]

listen, new b3 sg will deal more dmg per pallet hit

so she is the support for her

[lime patrol]

wait... maybe we will get a new boss with a giant core so Leona can put all pellets into it and prove how strong she is

[quaint blade]

shes a "keeper" for sure :3

[whole berry]

what are you typing ? a whole novel or something

[warm barn]

Skill 1: Hyperspeed

• Activates at the end of Full Burst. Affects all allies.
  For each ally with a Shotgun in team, Skill CD -2.7sec.

Burst: Merciless Barrage

• Affects self.
  Full Burst -5sec.
  Each pellet deals 61.3% of final ATK as additional damage for 5sec.
• Affects all enemies.
  Stun for 2sec.
  ATK -80.8% for 5sec.

[whole berry]

-att ?

[warm barn]

To make the pvper happy

[whole berry]

ahh

[rancid furnace]

you cooked too much

get some rest

[warm barn]

But its good cook

Hey

Its Isabel's new bestfriend

Make Isabel great again!

[whole berry]

what if they buff isabel

[warm barn]

• Proceeds to use Sugar. Deals more damage

Jokes on u

[silk current]

why, they still cope more pellets = more dmg

[warm barn]

Its B2 unit

[sacred heath]

the pilgrim with the camel

only pilgrim can bring a unique mech into the game, which something SG meta might need

[warm barn]

Skill 1: Hyperspeed

• Activates at the start of Full Burst. Affects all allies.
  Generates a Shield with 20.48% of the caster's MAX HP for 5sec.
• Activates at the end of Full Burst. Affects all allies.
  For each ally with a Shotgun in team, Skill CD -2.7sec.

Skill 2: Quick Gambit

• Activates when using Burst Skill. Affects all allies. Previous effects trigger repeatedly.
  Once: Reload 3 bullet(s).
  Twice: Reload 3 bullet(s).
  Three times: Reload 3 bullet(s).

Burst: Short Circuit

• Affects all allies with a Shotgun.
  Corrosive Shells: Each pellet deals 61.3% of caster's final ATK as additional damage for 5sec.
  Re-Enter Burst Stage II.
• Affects all enemies.
  Stun for 2sec.
  ATK -80.8% for 5sec.

GG

New unit leak

SG meta

[rancid furnace]

[whole berry]

post it on eden

[rancid furnace]

watch the world burn

[sacred heath]

let me post in maincord

[rancid furnace]

[silk current]

https://tenor.com/view/i-want-u-to-be-banned-gif-13051109547748519557

[warm barn]

No

PLS NO

NOT NOW

Not right time

Ill let u all know

Once I polish shit

Ure gonna ruin it

[sacred heath]

[warm barn]

Wait

I just realized

Re enter burst II

Im dumb fuck

And full burst reduc

Dumb shit

Gay

[craggy shuttle]

Pair this unit with Isabel to enjoy 0s burst time

[warm barn]

Removed that line

Its weird for B2

[craggy shuttle]

Need more cooking

[warm barn]

Its good enough

Not too broken

[sacred heath]

why u cook fake news here?

#1059468005911830558

[warm barn]

Hellhuh

No

I post it there at right time

For maximum dmg

[sacred heath]

not only aim to spread fake shiet but he also try to maximize the damage it does

Prydwen staff

[warm barn]

Bro she is the perfect addition to SG team

If Im shiftup

And shiftup is as smart as I am

They will literally make this kit

Similar

Because it enables Isabel

Who is dying right now

Well no

Shes dead

===
Liberalio
Defender, B2, 9 Ammo SG, 2.1s Reload Time, PSID

Skill 1: Hyperspeed

• Activates at the start of Full Burst. Affects all allies.
  Generates a Shield with 20.48% of caster's final MAX HP for 5 sec.
• Activates at the end of Full Burst. Affects all allies.
  For each ally with a Shotgun in team, Skill CD -2.7 sec.

Skill 2: Quick Gambit

• Activates when using Burst Skill. Affects all allies.
  Effect changes according to the activation time(s). Previous effects trigger repeatedly.
  Once: Reload 3 bullet(s).
  Twice: Reload 3 bullet(s).
  Three times: Reload 3 bullet(s).
• Activates upon taking damage from any source. Affects self.
  Burst Gauge filling speed +200% for 10 sec.

Burst: Short Circuit

• Affects self.
  Convert 12.82% of current HP as ATK for 5 sec.
  Grounding: Prevents self from being the target of single-target attacks for 5 sec. Loses effect when the caster takes damage.
• Affects all allies with a Shotgun.
  Energized Shells: Each pellet deals 36.3% of caster's final ATK as additional damage for 5 sec.
  Re-Enter Burst Stage II.
• Affects all enemies.
  Stun for 2 sec.

===

• Convert: Reduces affected attribute(s) and transfers equal value to the target stat.
  ===

[lime patrol]

Leona is so bad, Kisenix have to cook something to cope.

[drowsy bluff]

kisenix trying to replace leone with liberalio already

[warm barn]

Whooooosh

[warm barn]

No?

Its the perfect combo

Re enter B2

[drowsy bluff]

double b2?

oh

[warm barn]

Liberalio is like a unit

With strong start

And weaker toward the end

Because she keeps taking her life away

[drowsy bluff]

imagine if each pellet worked on all units tho

mg gaming

[warm barn]

Buffed to 26.3%

To make her more broken

[lime patrol]

Liberalio... the jelly fish loli?

or the Cinderella?

[rancid furnace]

jelly

[drowsy bluff]

dw next unit will be b3 cdr healer shotgun dps and it will all work out

[warm barn]

No

[drowsy bluff]

hit count proc for big additional dmg like sbs

[warm barn]

My cooking better

If we spread this

ShiftUP will take inspiration

[drowsy bluff]

idk like i said 2nd brain goes up 1st brain goes down happens every time with nikke

except duo nikkes

[warm barn]

All the skill names rhyme

Im so good

Removed ATK line

[whole berry]

I think you want to change s2 a bit

or add a random crit buff for scaling

they wouldn't print a skill that gains nothing on level ups

[warm barn]

Added grounding effect to negate ST damage, shield will handle AoE damage, her buffs weaken if she gets hit*

[rancid furnace]

get out of the kitchen

[warm barn]

They can tweak ammo

Added atk spd buff

Added burst gauge boost

Removed atk spd buff

This allows her to be placed in P2 in arena to quickly trigger increased burst gen

But also makes her ATK buff weaker

The break point is level 5 and 9

For 1 ammo and 3 ammo

Yes she is designed to be dps

Technically

She will steal Leona's buff

Ok time to leave before Snake scolds me for being off topic

[whole berry]

they can but not on every level

[gritty fjord]

Sir, this is not #1059468005911830558

[steep cargo]

Mf what's happening

Don't offtopic here otherwise get shafted for a few hours

Back to #1194207680261275718

If there's no discussions to do, there's no need to force this alive, let it die

[lost oasis]

[whole berry]

I wish there was something to come back

[steep cargo]

No more warns will be given, I don't want a tldr of whatever happened above

[lost oasis]

No shot 5 pellets isnt dps inc

[whole berry]

if the target is small enough its a dps loss

[lost oasis]

do they not mean damage per pellet does not change

fkin shiftup

[whole berry]

they mean damage per shot stays same dmg per bullet goes down

[lost oasis]

onyl thing this helps is hit rate count stuff

yea but thats like

[whole berry]

unless all 3 nikke accounts did mistype it

[lost oasis]

extra coding for u to self cuck urself

its gotta be damage per bullet stays the same

@steep cargo ban me if im wrong

[lost oasis]

i know it says that

lol

[blissful harbor]

[lost oasis]

like if this "shot" should be "bullet"

we are saved

and its a single word that changes the entire kit

[rancid furnace]

single word that makes her usable or useless

[lost oasis]

its ridiculous they would add pellets for them to be NOT a damage increase

its like if they added a buff thats like 100% of commander's attack to all allies

commander's attack is 0

like ????? why even do it

[whole berry]

then the "even if the" line is there

[blazing smelt]

so shotty comp is gonna be tove leona and whatever good DPS shotgunner we got

[whole berry]

because logically you assume when something increases you don't expect it to stay same. thats why it says "even if" imho

for it to be bullet it should be type from devs itself to social media managers

which is can be true

[lost oasis]

well its shiftup. i dont have any faith in them at the end of the day

[blazing smelt]

also we sure be getting a lot of shotgun supports but no top tier shotgun DPS huh

[lost oasis]

i onyl trust the cuteness of the characters

[whole berry]

yet

[blazing smelt]

they'll rework isabel

sugar is the best DPS shotgunner right now right?

[whole berry]

ngl the short burst will be better with pellet count

I expect a short burst duration from the sg dps we promised to with these sg support units

[lost oasis]

sugar is the only one

no one else counts

but even then, sugar suffers from the lack of ability to pierce

[blazing smelt]

isnt that just an inherent shotgun flaw?

[lost oasis]

it is

thats also why ARs suck too

[whole berry]

while naga ...

[lost oasis]

if u cant pierce, u better have a 100% hit rate on cores at least

[whole berry]

I guess thats why the nuke ar's feels better

[lost oasis]

scarlet is only viable because of her s1 stacking her attack

and 2b is cuz of her s2 gimmick

[whole berry]

and while ar's are annoying with the core what about smg ?

its a total class rn

[lost oasis]

yep smgs are dead rn too

think of it this way

u get smgs to hit 100% core hit

they shoot 20 BPS vs MGs shooting 60 BPS

still 1/3 dmg

they might as well delete that part of the skill if it does nothing

like its so headass

[whole berry]

I think its a setup for the next sg unit

[lost oasis]

wait

[whole berry]

sg dps will do something on per pellets hit

[lost oasis]

maybe actually

[whole berry]

trust me its a setup

[lost oasis]

wasn't moran "leaks" adding dmg per bullet

maybe...

but they wud need to lock it to shotgun or else machine guns will be better with 60 bps

[whole berry]

moran cdr b1 sg buffer

[lost oasis]

nah moran gotta b b3 cdr shotgun healer buffer

then shotguns can be team 5

[whole berry]

we know she is b1 tho

wait is this off topic ?

[lost oasis]

who cares

what are they gonna do

ban us?

[whole berry]