#[Scarlet: Black Shadow] New Unit Megathread

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swift knoll
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But it can be made up with an atk line

forest echo
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Full auto, my rh is MLB, max everything, 4 atk, 2 ammo 2 ele

dark hawk
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Skill issues

jade prawn
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Where is this from

compact viper
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other server that im in

jade prawn
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Can I know which oneBlancStare

compact viper
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i kind of gave up on them already

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bigger gooners than me

jade prawn
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This is well explained

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But the outcome wasn't supposed to be she trash

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It just means she's worse than redhood

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And that too only for campaign

compact viper
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they're only looking through the lenses of pushing campaign

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half of those bozos dont even play UR and SR

jade prawn
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Comparing to redhood is fucking stupid anyways

compact viper
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coz RH is one of a kind

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not really fair to compare other dps to her coz RH can fill multiple roles

open sundial
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I don’t know the actual attack, but the rule of thumb I’ve been following and sharing is each spare body improves the character by 2.2% over 0LB…

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But I think each core breakthrough shows the numerical changes? I can check a screenshot I have of going from 6CB to MCB

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Here, 6CB upgrading to 7CB, just get the difference in ATK

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Okay, maybe not.. I think she was still level 1 KEKW

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That didn’t work out fast

white python
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each core is a 2% increase

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idk about lbs tho

forest echo
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Whoever wrote this needs to be put on the death row

wooden turret
brisk whale
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left of scarlet? don't let

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her burst?

minor fox
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so basically mlb is 1.06
and then 7 core is like 1.14 x 1.06
ignoring all the other flat bonuses

rapid kettle
rustic rivet
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Its also on SBS's review

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U dumb dumb

jade prawn
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This is on our review? Damn

rustic rivet
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That was the defense for SBS being S in late campaign

jade prawn
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I see

rustic rivet
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BRO U REACTED TO THAT YESTERDAY

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URE SO FORGETFUL

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Maybe exams

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Are haunting u

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Lmao

rustic rivet
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The weird thing is the sentiment people get from it is different

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It was a defense of SBS being S not SSS in late storu

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But from the other perspective

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It also feels like im just trashing her as C tier

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Which I... dont

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So no it was a well-written defense

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not a general review

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Plus its fine

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Alice and RH are significantly better

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It is justified

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Its just the conclusion was horrible

rapid kettle
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I will have to tank your wall of text in the future

rustic rivet
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No

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Thats too short

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Nono, too much info lost

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The first paragraph was indeed too fluffied

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But the 2nd paragraph is fine

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She is convenient because she refills ammo.

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But it wasnt specified

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Because I must have been trired

rapid kettle
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make boolet points, write shorter

rustic rivet
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Bullet points is fair

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Shorter is no

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Its short enough

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Bullet point would make it longer

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But seem shorter

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Which is perfect

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Ill keep that in mind

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Its just too fluffi-fied

rustic rivet
rapid kettle
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from a faithful user

rustic rivet
potent stag
valid flume
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this guy stating fact tho, he doesnt show u the clip sbs choking doesnt mean she is not bad

short flame
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should i use milage ticket to get my fist copy of scarlet bs? i already spen 25 k gems and did not got her

valid flume
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no, spend like $10 and do another 10 pulls, payment buff will activate

warm dune
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just keep swiping ur credit card

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u will eventually hit the jackpot trust

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10 b. scarlet in a 10 pull

tulip shard
tranquil portal
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im 400+ and only 2 lols

dark hawk
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I spend 80k for mlb sbs

valid flume
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Ripped orr blue line

potent stag
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bad unit smh

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~~according to my tests Salt is S tier ~~

mint canyon
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what % +ammo does scar need? 🧐

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i was rolling for 4.9 charge speed and got max ammo

warm dune
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i htink she just needs 63%+

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so ur chillin

valid flume
warm dune
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tbh idk lol

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im just saying what ive seen others say

fast marten
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@jade prawn Can noir's s2 be left at 9 or should we take it to 10 for sbs team?

fast marten
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okay cool, noir is almost done then, just need to take her s1 to 10 and all the meta support skills are doneeeee

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ty

rapid kettle
open sundial
# rapid kettle

Gatrix is the real Kraken Tyrant hidden in the abyss of the seas

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Or that scary Doro wouldn’t exist…

obsidian elm
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i got a question about distributed damage

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does ele dmg up OLs matter for it or not?

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or is it just that the dmg gets distributed from the enemy hit, and if the enemy happens to be weak to the element (rarely do maps have enemies of more than one weakness, anyway), it gets boosted before being applied everywhere

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cuz yeah, scarlet put in work in this hard mode defense fight

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and ofc, the enemies are weak to wind.

valid flume
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on nihilister boss

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way too strong

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||jk xlud burst into air half the time||

obsidian elm
flint lion
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aPES2_ArriveExplosion SBS SSS?

valid flume
flint lion
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Did you kill it yet?

valid flume
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Ofc not

flint lion
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🤏

valid flume
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Can block the one shots

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But cant cleanse the poison

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Sync level wall

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Stupid

jade prawn
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Its a good investment

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Run her with bunnies

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ScarWind can carry damage

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Up noise skills too maybe

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Noise spam for burst gen, trust

jade prawn
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For boss

flint lion
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Slightly upgraded Blanc and Noah are the best options

valid flume
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Noise might not work

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Dpb noise sync 400

jade prawn
valid flume
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C7

flint lion
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She removes the initial laser damage, which is what hurts the most

jade prawn
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Is there an AoEBlancStare

valid flume
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Back to back

flint lion
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Tower 340

jade prawn
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I'll try it today later

flint lion
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I cleared it thumbsup_hh

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Tried both teams

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Noah made it ez

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I was also thinking Nosie would be better, but turns out she wasn't

valid flume
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I only need

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A cleanse b3

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To clear this

flint lion
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Hmm

valid flume
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Fking bitchass oneshot aoe and immediately poison

flint lion
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Quincy might help with surviving?

valid flume
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No amount of healing is enough exempt helm

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But then Noah dies

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Cuz she cant fking leech back

flint lion
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My Noah is stronk and probably my most pulled unit by now. Despite being Pilgrim

jade prawn
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Listen to them

flint lion
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Pvp... My opponent pulled 3 scarlets this patch

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I pulled one and 2 Harran tablefliphic

dreamy lion
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Hey Guys.
A F2P player on Ch26 with only resources to pick either one bscarlet or modernia should go for which one?

elder depot
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anyone know if is it worth building support alice 4/4/4 for tia/naga/scarlet shadow team/liter for solo raid?

wild trail
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if you can only pick one of the two, modernia should give you more mileage and more general application

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ideally, get both, but if you have to pick one, i'd say modernia

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and pray later down the line, you get scarlet from standard pulls

rapid kettle
lethal sky
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same

jade prawn
lethal sky
valid flume
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stay faithful my frens

rigid gale
jade prawn
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Yes

alpine oriole
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jesus, first pilgrim helm in 1+ year of SIs

rigid gale
tranquil portal
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what cube for sbs ?

jade prawn
# tranquil portal what cube for sbs ?

Onslaught if bunnies, Bastion if tiga
if you have a low charge speed roll and want to reach a breakpoint, then you may use Adjutant to reach that breakpoint.

alpine oriole
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From your pin don't you only need like a single cs roll to reach the breakpoint?

jade prawn
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so u might have a 3% roll

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and no rocks

jade prawn
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yeah, there's those too

mint canyon
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is there any breakpoints for ammo roll? 👀

rapid kettle
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100% ammo will allow you to not even reload at all with bunnies team (non liter)

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because 18 + 5 (her s2) + 4 (Noir S2) = 27 ammo

rapid kettle
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she burns 17 ammo during FB, then 9 in between

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long story short: Don't roll ammo

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but if you are weird, 100%

mint canyon
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damn i got a max ammo roll

rapid kettle
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85%

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you lv up Noir S2 till 5 ammo then

tranquil portal
alpine oriole
alpine oriole
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nvm I have enough at my current setup

obsidian elm
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yeah, i noticed with bunny twins and bastion (overkill) scarlet never needed to reload when fighting a boss (in this case, material H, but I noticed the same when I fought modernia 2 days ago on chp 13 hard mode boss stage

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scarlet s2 at lvl 6, noir s2 at lvl 7, 2 ammo up OLs (will change that when I can)

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after stacking enough burst cd with liter, burst time would always come through to reload Scarlet's mag.

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i'm well aware this is insane overkill for ammo on nu scarlet

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but even with all this ammo, reloading on normal stages still had to happen at most once

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cuz the cd burst reduction wasn't fully stacked and burst gen without the main target is 2slo

stark ravine
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First unlock 😄

tired ice
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HOLY LUCK OF THE ☘️

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THATS PERFECT

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I can’t use her with bunny’s she gets killed super fast

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But School Girls no

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Go figure

brisk whale
stark ravine
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About SBS, when will she enter the mold's pool?

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when her banner end?

brisk whale
obsidian elm
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yeah, according to the last line of SBS' notice, it should on the patch after her banner ends

stark ravine
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my hand almost unlock it because of habit

obsidian elm
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yeah, same, actually

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the red dot's gonna bother me for some time now

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and I doubt I'll get anything amazing out of it

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but hey, one never knows

stark ravine
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i have SBS at 2*, but i stop going for MLB, i just wait for her to spook me off-rate AnisShrug
i mean what would i do with core anyway

obsidian elm
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just make sure to confirm twice before using it

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that the patch note says nu scarlet is in the mold

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and checking the rates of pilgrim mode to see her in there, just in case

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ofc, after her banner ends or whenever it is she'll be added

stark ravine
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imagine if Leona a game changer kekw

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that would destroy my wallet...

alpine oriole
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she will be a gamechanger soon, just need an actual new generation sg dps or two

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tove+leona+guilty+helm+sg dps

obsidian elm
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yeah, people are just waiting for that OP shotgunner

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to make use of tove and soon Leona

tired ice
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Pilgrim SG we don’t have one of them no

alpine oriole
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you're forgetting the purple flying cougar

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don't worry almost everyone forgot about her

tired ice
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Yea because she SUCKS………

obsidian elm
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honestly, she's fine. just that no one likes the burst cd reduction units, but for good reason

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basically unusable for more than half of the battle modes

brisk whale
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but you pretty much have to rely on vesti for elysion tower

potent stag
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thats because ely doesn't have any attackers

jade prawn
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She is outclassed by a lot of attackers

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She's from the bottom 50% as a pilgrim

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The only pilgrim, in fact, who is this unusable

potent stag
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imagine being outclassed by nihil

jade prawn
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Even nihil is bis pilgrim tower

potent stag
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even nihil had uses in sr

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ultra is ultra broken for pierce sr

jade prawn
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Isabel had usage too

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In Alexander SR

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And uhh

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Ultra SR, one KR guy used her

potent stag
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kr

obsidian elm
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if only units like isabel and vesti could stack faster

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mainly vesti, cuz I actually use her

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oh, and 2b too, i guess, though she's actually the best of those stacking mechanics or whatever deadge

sinful kite
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Hope dev buff useless unit

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Like isabel , crow ...

obsidian elm
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they do give buffs, but too slow and mostly meaningless

jade prawn
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Anyways
Pls move to other chats to discuss other units

obsidian elm
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the only buff to have mattered a ton was guillotine and RH (i am of the opinion she didn't need it, but oh well)

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fine

rustic rivet
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Well Modernia might rerun in 2025

obsidian elm
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who knows, two is too little to establish a pattern

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but maybe so.

alpine oriole
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if modernia got a rerun then doro will get one too. I'm only missing that pink gal deadge

obsidian elm
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depends if nikke is gonna be one of those gachas that will care about half anniversary after the first time

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some do, some don't

rapid kettle
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you won't get Modernia

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you will get Marian: Silver Gun

obsidian elm
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wau, they finally added an SR SMG

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😱

rapid kettle
abstract crag
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finally modernia using both shoulder gun and smg

potent stag
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2025 mod will use the other shoulder gun

rapid kettle
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in b4 mod nukes

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I run first

abstract crag
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become war machine

warm dune
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literally all those reds are either essentially useless or nerfs to team

jade prawn
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New site is cool

minor fox
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like damn bruv. sbs is so mid. both bursted once.

rapid kettle
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train?

valid flume
rapid kettle
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gl can't read

valid flume
rapid kettle
coral pagoda
tired ice
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She SUCKS AT TRAIN

white python
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why are we surprised

valid flume
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Little experiment

white python
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this gameplay makes me want to off myselfheh

brisk whale
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wtf is this

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full auto attempt?

valid flume
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its doable during summer already

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just not stable enough for anything worth

grim iron
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not free train S tier nikke Doro

valid flume
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the next sbs of fire going to be free train Doro

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this type of kit too busted

tired ice
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Yea RH & Mod are GODS Against Train

rapid kettle
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but what if I use Snow Why?

valid flume
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Typical research lab pep

rapid kettle
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excuse me then, cuz I never analyze kit

radiant reef
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What cube does she want?

obsidian elm
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bastion is ideal, with enough ammo from other sources, like OLs, liter or noir, she will never reload vs bosses, ever

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if you're not using noir, though, at least lvl 7 s2 is necessary.

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my nu-scarlet has +112% ammo up OLs total from 2 lines, with liter giving another +45%

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this, with bastion cube vs material H, my scarlet straight up never needed to reload until she died, lol

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she ended up with 27 ammo during burst time, and because i've been using my nu-scarlet with alice for the charge spd, it's downright necessary.

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with this setup, to give you an idea

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anyway, if you lack enough ammo up OLs, the mag size up cube is a fine substitute to also never need to reload, just keep in mind bastion cube is more effective with the strat.

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adjutant cube with some charge spd OLs to be able to fire off more attacks during burst is also pretty big

white python
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you’ll need to level 7 s2 when you swap out bastion tho

potent stag
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its the lowest dmg cube

valid flume
white python
potent stag
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nope

rapid kettle
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depend on your situation. But when you reach perfect stat, yeah it's the only cube that gives dmg

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it's not like it gives anything meaningful though

white python
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then why does everyone recommend charge dmg cube

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im still gonna use bastion regardless but yk

rapid kettle
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huh

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someone recommends it?

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damn

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Bastion ftw

potent stag
white python
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im getting trolled rn

valid flume
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when most have reached 7 10 level on bastion/resilience and some mtfks recommend charge cube which is only lv 4-5

dark hawk
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We deserve an ATK% cube

potent stag
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attack speed cube

dark hawk
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Elemental change cube

valid flume
obsidian elm
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atk spd cube would be so ebin

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the competition would be fierce even if it was something like +5% at max rank

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but yeah, the reason bastion cube and to a lesser extent mag size up cube are best is because they ideally stop you from ever having to reload, ever

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just like regular scarlet, nu-scarlet has a relatively long reload time, which cuts into dps

potent stag
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what if -max ammo cube

obsidian elm
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that would be pretty pog too, cuz of all the last bullet nikkes

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fierce competition

potent stag
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they need another way to proc last bullet

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besides priv

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imho

obsidian elm
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lol yeah, to this day, still the only (best) provider of it

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imagine her with such a hypothetical cube

dark hawk
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Pierce cube

obsidian elm
jade prawn
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@flint lion when did you clear motherwhale? Think

jade prawn
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Hmm need someone who cleared it a month ago or so

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I wanna know when they added red hp bars to indicate this "low health, high Def"

rapid kettle
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it's added recently

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for sure

tranquil portal
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it's a good UX change

obsidian elm
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yeah, but it doesn't work for glasses, probably

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since you can remove its hit barrier after enough hits

low tendon
jade prawn
low tendon
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Ah ic

obsidian elm
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hold up

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how have you dealt with mother whale without ever seeing the adds it spawns in

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just like with this material H, the def up buff the adds get comes at a delay, so if you kill the adds with an AoE burst, it becomes a non-issue

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with mother whale, getting rid of its core part prevents it from ever being able to use the ability

open sundial
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There are some rather insanely high scoring BS Scarlet teams in Solo Raid, how’s that done? Purely driven by optimal gear?

potent stag
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yes

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ele adv

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with high eledmg rolls

open sundial
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Truly crazy

jade prawn
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Lots of stuff you can do to increase dps

rapid kettle
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I only see: Ignore the Cancel Ring

wicked marten
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Ignoring the cancel ring did work for me deadge

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Managed to do 1.8b with her team

obsidian elm
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yeah, ignoring the cancel rings til the last second for each on the last minute helps a lot

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also, i make sure to bring nikkes with full screen bursts and time it for when the adds show up. again, the dmg reduction they get is delayed, so killing them before they get it gets rid of the shield a lot sooner, for teams that don't have nu-scarlet

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material H makes it real obvious when they're about to show up too

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basically when it puts its shield up, lol

wicked marten
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U can iframe the shot from the fail as well

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I think at least cause many times i got no damage

rapid kettle
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U can even retry if you fail that iframe

wicked marten
obsidian elm
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it's hard to time for all the nikkes, with all their different reloads, but you're right

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i've done it unintentionally

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so it's definitely possible.

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i'm just aiming for top 3%, ngl

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i'm too busy with work to tryhard any further than that

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want that lvl 3 border, tho

obsidian elm
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'life steal cube' or, whatever you wanna call it

obsidian elm
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harran gets to burst repeatedly to get more adds, and xmica can maintain harran's s1 buff with her ability to increase stacks of all allies

frosty dove
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do we have charge speed break point or just 4.92 is enough ty Prayge

frosty dove
frosty dove
valid flume
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is this counted having alice or not?

jade prawn
languid drum
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the raid is for her

potent stag
valid flume
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why they have to put this shiet in every tower @flint lion

obsidian elm
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yeah, i think nu-scarlet actually puts an end to the alice/maxwell combo if you have all 3, a staple since week 1

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maxwell gonna mainly be paired up with RH now

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unless we're mostly talking about a fire weak boss with tons of parts to pierce for Alice to outdmg nu-scarlet

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cuz otherwise, being able to pop off another s1 full combo on top of more atks from nu-scarlet during burst time is way more important than a few extra attacks for alice.

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ofc, a lot of this depends on investment had on the respective units

obsidian elm
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i'm sure nu scarlet would appreciate if both alice and maxwell were both on her team, but since optimal teams have either JKs or bunny twins, it's not possible

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and i doubt both combined would give her any more attacks during full burst anyway

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you can only reduce 0.3s charge time so much

valid flume
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not practical for the idea of week 1

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that comp will cripple the progression, only slightly ideal in sr but the mode is locked away and it would take monthss to get the team ready and by that point new meta already hit

rapid kettle
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Week 1 had meta?

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Damn

obsidian elm
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month 1, then, you guys know what i meant tho

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hell, the entirety of year 1

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back to work i go

gloomy fog
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How do I calculate how much CS Alice gives SBS during SBS burst? Alice is 6/4/6 no OLs atm

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Alice s1 says 9.55% of caster’s charge speed upon entering full burst…so it’s 9.55% of what?

open sundial
rapid kettle
obsidian elm
open sundial
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Wait for Harran alter to come into play and reconquer the meta

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Someday

bitter heron
gloomy fog
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Gotcha. Thanks

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So doesn’t that instantly meet the highest breakpoint of 20%?

rapid kettle
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-0.175s at max

gloomy fog
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It’s about 50% of sbs charge time reduced at my current level

rapid kettle
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Breakpoint is with alice

gloomy fog
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So on top of Alice, SBS needs some charge speed OL?

rapid kettle
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Yeah

gloomy fog
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Is this assuming alice s1 is level 10?

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I was planning on going to level 7

rapid kettle
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Lv 10

gloomy fog
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Ah

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Ok. Long road ahead…

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Ty

obsidian elm
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lower alice s1 means more charge spd OL or even charge spd cube

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but bastion is so OP on nu scarlet with enough ammo up from s2+ other sources that it's not worth

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never needing to reload vs bosses is an amazing feeling

gloomy fog
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Ok

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Sounds good

vague crown
obsidian elm
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higher level of bastion cube means less OL will be dedicated to ammo up, so it's more optimal, but if you happen to roll a bunch of ammo up OLs, it's fine to make use of a lower level bastion cube

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the whole point of the setup is to basically ensure nu-scarlet never has to reload, ever, because of ammo ups from her s2 ammo up+ whatever other ammo upsources, and the mag refill. her s2 activates when entering burst time.

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to use my nu-scarlet as an example, my nu-scarlet starts at 19 ammo, she got 2 ammo up OLs adding up to ~+112%, lvl 7 s2 (it can be lower if bunny twins are used) and liter at lvl 6 s1 (~+30% ammo up) when it eventually kicks in

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when it's burst time (i use JKs), she goes up to 27 ammo, and bastion cube lvl 2 effect ensures (don't have lvl 3 effect yet) that by the time the next burst time comes through, she fully reloads with s2 up from like 2 - 3 ammo. if i had lvl 3 bastion effect, i bet i could get rid of one of the ammo up OLs.

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and then she never stops attacking unless it's a boss with i-frames or whatever

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materia H is probably the best boss to try this out on, because it never i-frames.

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so as much as this solo raid sucks for basically most other nikkes

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it's a good time to test out how to optimize the 'never reload' setup she can do

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with bunny twins, there is more leniency thanks to noir providing ammo up (don't even have to lvl s2 past 4 cuz noir provides a refill that works with scarlet's s2)

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with JKs, there is less leniency, because they provide no ammo up, so at least lvl 7 s2 is required for the 100% ammo reload

dark hawk
obsidian elm
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wat in the world

jade prawn
obsidian elm
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LMAO

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oh yeah, another reason why JKs are more optimal, aside from more dmg overall

dark hawk
obsidian elm
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no risk of that happening since neither tia or naga are attackers

dark hawk
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Rouge when?

obsidian elm
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year 3

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i've had enough of the tetra units

dark hawk
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Moran is tetra too

obsidian elm
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excellent

obsidian elm
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who knows when we'll see player feedback hopefully kick in to stop with all the tetra units

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wanting an easier elysion tower climb is just too much to ask for, apparently

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vesti helping out a lot, but even then

flint lion
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They should Buff Harran and Isabel.

obsidian elm
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could say that about too many nikkes, lol

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harran doesn't really need a buff tho. she just sucks vs bosses, especially solo ones

flint lion
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So she needs a buff

obsidian elm
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not every nikke has to be good at everything.

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Harran is still really good at regular stage clears.

flint lion
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Nah, she's mid at best

obsidian elm
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S/SS tier

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mid

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whatever, man.

jade prawn
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Aite
Kill chat now

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Leona next

obsidian elm
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Actually, it's 100x smaller because circle area value is derived by squaring the radius

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also, wouldn't the fast cycle team benefit more from vesti if burst generation is an issue, over isabel?

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or is it because isabel has a full screen wipe with her burst

rapid kettle
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Jay used mined data

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splash radius is 50 compared to RL 500

obsidian elm
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yeah, so that's x100 less area

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oh, wait, my bad

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splash radius is being said either way

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lol

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just that i know for sure when people say 'splash radius' they mean the AoE.

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well, it's nbd, just being a little pedantic about it

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my point with vesti over isabel on the 'fast cycle' team i think is valid, tho

rapid kettle
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because of this debuff

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that's Blanc but shorter duration

obsidian elm
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ohhh, that's true, but isn't that only when isabel bursts?

rigid gale
obsidian elm
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i've been calling her nu-scarlet for over a week

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lol

rigid gale
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Glad it never stuck outside this thread

obsidian elm
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don't care

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as long as people understand to who i was referring to

thorny mirage
obsidian elm
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congrats to that anon

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Jetstream Scarlet, lol

tranquil portal
lethal sky
rapid kettle
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Nihi 210F

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I think Whitelet could do the same

tranquil portal
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scarlet my beloved

valid flume
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and its better to use rh for that b1 burst in phase 2, windlet doesnt really do anything beside dps monkeying

rapid kettle
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I only need to burst mod once to wipe missile

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could have been Whitelet

valid flume
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burst with windlet

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yabai

rapid kettle
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at least her dmg won't be distributed by missiles

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anyway, pass this shit

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so Windlet is the win for me

valid flume
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i think, like if the 2 meta dps (take rh and windlet for example) are so close on the dps chart (from gatrix excel), aka the gap is not that big, i would just treat them the same, accounting for the rng gap in equipments/skills

rapid kettle
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except

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this SR

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and lots more before

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core = part

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just x2 Red dmg

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but yeah, they are closed on UR boss. Those bosses tend to have 1 core no part

valid flume
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dont count

obsidian elm
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yeah, the team with nu scarlet did like 1b for me

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the other teams combined did 1.7b for me

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manage to secure top 2% spot with a 2.7b

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this SR in general was just miserable

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elemental barrier deadge

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for an element that only has one viable dedicated dps atm

potent stag
obsidian elm
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i know... it barely mattered when i used full screen attacks to clear mobs before def buff was applied

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but nonetheless, the barrier lingers meant that almost everyone else missed out on dps

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regardless of how fast you wiped out the adds

toxic jewel
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I have 1200 ticket rn

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25k gems

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1LB at the moment

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I'm 70% sure that I will skip Leona and Moran

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should I go for MLB Scarlet by spending 400 tickets?

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or should I spend all gems instead? kekw

wicked marten
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whats your account like? i dont think you will get anything amazing from scarlet mlb but if u like here you can

toxic jewel
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wym by what's my account like?

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I have every Nikke at the moment if you ask, except Power deadge and Leona for now kekw

wicked marten
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my team with her did 1.8b in solo raid with no lb and i saw most top teams would do around 2.4 to 3bil for the more whale players, and that damage is probably more about rolls on OL tbh and the rest of the team investment, so overall sure it will help but i dont think it wil stop you from pushing most content

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i still managed to rank 0.36% with 0lb on her for example

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but u do have every nikke so up to you

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400 tickets wont be the end of you

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i spent 600 on dorothy cause waifu

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just my thoughts tho 🫡

toxic jewel
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that helps a lot. I'll think more about it and decide on the last day then. thx DabMe1

white python
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cause otherwise you should just save the gems for banners that have better rates

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but max bond for pilgrims can be roughly a 3k cp diff between 1 -> 40

toxic jewel
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And I pull Meta unit Doro

white python
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hmmm

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well crown and chime are soonest half anni

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liberalio is prob liberation

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tho I hope not cause her kit will probably be trash thendeadge

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cinderella is cope

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unfortunately

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so id say uh

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just ticket the mlb and dip is the safest option

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but if you have good luck then try your luck

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cause getting 1 more dupe will save you like 130 tix in equivalence

wicked marten
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im also just keeping for crown and chime right now because if they actually drop as a duo

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its gonna be rough

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and as a crown fanatic i wanna likely mlb

autumn igloo
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Duo pilgrim with kits relying to each other will be indeed hard

frosty dove
wicked marten
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i feel like with JK they showed some initiative to potentially drop the "always pair together" part and allow for some leeway

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like tia and naga obviously work amazing together but potentially a unit will come out that could fille each others role a bit

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hopefully thats the case for future duos too

white python
white python
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if not then its rip

frosty dove
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Ye 1% just so bait

white python
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ye

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thats why I said if you arent saving for anyone in particular just ticket

frosty dove
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But i guess building pityCOPIUM

white python
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cause statistically your crystals will have better results on someone like moran’s banner

white python
frosty dove
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Zwei and ein duodeadge

white python
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noir and naga can

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noir even more so can blanc only really makes her burst duration last stupid long

white python
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elysion savior pls

frosty dove
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Gonna be EH

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Take it or leave it

wicked marten
toxic jewel
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This 1LB I just got her about 2 hours ago within 50 rolls

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3 ssr which is Ludmilla, Liter and HerAliceAhegao

white python
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just pull with that kind of luckdeadge

proper rampart
# white python elysion savior pls

It could be, i was checking the Squads on the wiki the other day, and it said that their names are numbers. When Rei was released a lot of people though it was Ein (One) Zwei (Two) (D)Rei(Three), the three of them in german. But Rei is zero in japanese, wich makes sense after seeing Tercera (Third in spanish) is part of their Squad during Marciana's event. Their team could be three different manufacturers, Rei Tetra japanese number. Ein and Zwei Elysion german number. And Tercera may be Missilis, the thing is she was disguised as an Elysion mass produced, and later on they didn't show any sprite when she talked after the exams.

toxic jewel
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so I should go for MLB with 200 ticket right?

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since I come this far alreadydeadge

frosty dove
white python
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please let this be me on sunday

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at this point id say just pull it

toxic jewel
potent stag
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wtf

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how many pulls

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you had like 70 pulls

toxic jewel
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let me calculate it a momentdeadge

white python
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30 pulls were used

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wtf

toxic jewel
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no, not 30 pulls for MLB

white python
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no ik

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im saying for the last one

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it was 41 for 2 copies

toxic jewel
white python
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dk what you pulled before that

toxic jewel
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I finished including all the pic and clip kekw

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on 1st I pulled 76 and got these 3 and 1 scarlet

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and yesterday I spend 70 rolls (20 rolls on Leona and didn't get herMaxwellDepressed so I just fxck it and move to Scarlet banner and do another 50 and got these 2 and Scarlet 1LB)

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then an hour ago I did 11 pulls and got another Salt

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so like 197 rolls for MLB (excluding the 200 tickets) kekw

white python
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wtf

toxic jewel
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this is getting a bit out of topic so I'll just stop here kekw

toxic jewel
jade prawn
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1% rate = 1 per 100

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3 in 200 is good but not unbelievable

white python
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I got 1 xlud in 130 pulls sohahaa

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thats the only ssr I pulled on either of the christmas banners iirc

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i spent like 200 pulls on them in total

potent stag
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I was also pretty lucky this time around but mlb at 200 pulls

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is kinda good

toxic jewel
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you'll be surprise in how many rolls I spent for MLB XLud wahahaha

white python
toxic jewel
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nah, it's 62 rolls for a MLB DabMe1

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Still got no XAnne MaxwellDepressed

potent stag
toxic jewel
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Nah, I only got this much luck on this XLud. The other I got the SSR within 30-50 on averages

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I only get MLB for the Meta and Waifu kekw

obsidian elm
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no actual sprite, probably just a background character

proper rampart
# obsidian elm no actual sprite, probably just a background character

After the exams are over, she talks and she has no sprite cause she is no longer disguised. I skip a lot of the time so i don't know how usual is for this to happen with Nikkes, i know a lot of characters talk off camera/don't use a sprite, at the start of Leona's event the woman freaking out about Timi

obsidian elm
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that's common, except for 'important' characters

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regular people either use no sprite or the faceless man/woman sprites

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but the latter generally has a lot to play in whatever event they're in than just making one comment or two

frosty dove
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They can change what they want at this point

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Zwei and ein

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Consider that a elysion gun on her

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Only then stamped to missilis laterKEKL

potent stag
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she just yoinked the gun

frosty dove
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Ikr

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But zwei and ein being elysion duo could actually redeem elysion for towersad_cat

proper rampart
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Ein is one i've been waiting since the first datamines, i just hope she isn't a wellfare like Rei, free units rarely are competitive

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Anyway, i think im derailing this thread too much

obsidian elm
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indeed you are.

obsidian elm
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bastion is optimal, needs lvl 7 s2 tho (4 if using noir)

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and ammo up from other sources, like a few OLs and allies (liter, noir, etc)

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ammo up, reload cube are also acceptable substitutes

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if you use her with alice to abuse the massive charge spd reduction alice gives her and you somehow miss out on charge spd OLs

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the charge spd cube lets you get an extra auto during full burst (assuming Alice's s1 is max)

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but the ideal setup is bastion and never needing to reload (vs bosses), unironically

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that s2 full ammo refill is insane when combined with a high ammo count and bastion

valid flume
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never hit with sbs while delaying for cooldown

jade prawn
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Ggs

valid flume
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insane aoe BlancStare

grim iron
valid flume
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noe aoe not that insane

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im ded

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it reminds me of my middle school when i was surrounded by other kids and get outnumbered

grim iron
rapid kettle
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u bouta get jumped

valid flume
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15-12

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i got lucky with a2 1

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i thought i could do it again

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but now i repeat this stage 10+ times already

rapid kettle
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just stick with A2

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so simple right

valid flume
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im so done man im stuck

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wtf

rapid kettle
valid flume
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i got lucky and i dropped it

rapid kettle
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just use SS story late

open sundial
valid flume
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bro wtf

valid flume
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im so tired of potato aiming so i just let the ai aim for me

rapid kettle
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could you just

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I don't know

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USE TIA BURST

valid flume
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bro im sorry

rapid kettle
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it has so smoll cd

valid flume
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im zoning out

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im very

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zoning out

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lmao

rapid kettle
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I was dying looking at your time with 2 elites

valid flume
rapid kettle
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"click it"

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"just click it"

valid flume
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the game froze so i cant even get the screenshot of damage

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malding too long

rapid kettle
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probably not much

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your S1-2 landed on elite

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your S1-1 I couldn't see it

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your S1-3 was splited so whatever

valid flume
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the title of the map literally

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"lucky"

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just get lucky 4HEad

open sundial
valid flume
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Scarlet > SBS here

rapid kettle
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can you just

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wipe the bullwhip?

valid flume
rapid kettle
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small flying raptures are named

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Bullwhip

valid flume
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they are fine

rapid kettle
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well I did say "try SBS on 15-18 like stages" right

valid flume
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i think

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i just burst with xludmilal in boss

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fk sbs

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leave it for tmr too tired

rapid kettle
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need a wipe here

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must create a situation like you and boss only

valid flume
rapid kettle
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I believe even Privaty will do better here

valid flume
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but this is sbs thread

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gotta play sbs

rapid kettle
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stop idolizing her

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she's S in story

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accept it

jade prawn
valid flume
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im not, just trying to see what see can do

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deadge 🔁 xqcMald slam keyboardslam PES_Mouse

potent stag
rapid kettle
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look at this Masochist

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I could never

valid flume
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1`5-18

rapid kettle
#

15-18

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how could you forget this pattern?

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literally evil

valid flume
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bro if the scarlet

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didnt actually

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leave them at 5% hp

open sundial
potent stag
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have you tried rh b3 ?

valid flume
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and i open this acc and just happen to be in the chapter

open sundial
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What deficit are you at now?

valid flume
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hmmm

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i dont like it

rapid kettle
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GavinY used Alice to aim Bullwhip

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something I would never do

valid flume
rapid kettle
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unless I installed some shit like Auto Aim lmao

valid flume
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i could clear this with mod/xlud and scarlet

open sundial
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414,300 stage vs 260,518 you

valid flume
#

but i just want to clear with sbs

open sundial
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Damn

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0.63120444

rapid kettle
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37%

jade prawn
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she can clear the 5%

valid flume
#

this team drop when boss spawn

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no chance

open sundial
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You might be finally cornered this time

jade prawn
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its not a corner

valid flume
jade prawn
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just use chair

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and ez clear

valid flume
#

this might be juicy

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i just peep the ol lines

potent stag
# valid flume

I mean if you want to sbs sure but can't you rh burst clear mini's and stall for the boss

potent stag
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uhhh... idk wind weak stages

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for cope

jade prawn
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Wind weak

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No?

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Or is it water

valid flume
#

water weak

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xlud stage

jade prawn
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I have 33% atk man

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It should be good

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That's the best compensation u can get for non wind stages

valid flume
#

ye like im planning to

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burst xlud in boss

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and not burst sbs

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cuz she is useless

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USELSSS

potent stag
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when my nuke gets split between 20 enemies

valid flume
#

this is a p2w unit

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need all the core

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for more damage

jade prawn
#

Or just play at

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30% deficit

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Ez

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U get the dps

rapid kettle
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can you just play in Blue?

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this game is supposed to play with 1 hand

jade prawn
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Sbs is probably the best DPS

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In blue

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Cuz she is 3 shot screen clear with nuke

valid flume
obsidian elm
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yeah, i've been using sbs on chapter 14 hard campaign cuz of all the wind weak enemies

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she actually puts in work

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but i know for a fact i'll need modernia ready when the wind enemies stop:

valid flume
valid flume
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SBS does something A2/sanis usually do in Defense Battle (passive aoe)
15-12a-1

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in defense battle/base attk mode and under rh1 b1 comp, passive aoe off burst is appreciated

hidden sand
valid flume
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so i just delay after 2nd time and got her burst 1 ready again

hidden sand
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but after you use her b1,b2, (b3) it goes to 40 sec?

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or if you dont use the b3, then it saves it for the next round?

valid flume
#

so i can use her b1 which will be on 40s cdr later

thorny mirage
rapid kettle
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lack dps

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need to squeeze as much as I can

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same happen with Elysion 190F

thorny mirage
rapid kettle
#

normal 210F is pretty straightforward

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Liter OP af

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Pilgrim has 2nd worst buffers

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only better than Trashysion

jade prawn
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Pilg used to be the easiest

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But then bunnies and Tia Naga arrived

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Well maybe, missilis was the easiest

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Liter centi

rapid kettle
#

Missilis is always top dawg

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their DPS are pretty much cheap copy of Pilgrim

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while their buffers are god tier

grim iron
#

I only have 1 missilis DPS invested so not really Doro

rapid kettle
#

do more

jade prawn
grim iron
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tetra has everyone invested now but B1 kekw
and pilgrim is just basically all DPS

jade prawn
#

Drake Maxwell Laplace

What is this, 2022 nikke worryCoffeeWeird

jade prawn
#

Why is missilis so low

jade prawn
valid flume
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its just towers every manu will stuck at some point cuz lack of nikke from other manu to cheese it

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my misi was stuck at a base defense node for a while cuz no dps

rapid kettle
#

sound like 225F

jade prawn
valid flume
#

Ye i heard Episel from Dair in maincord

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I thought hold up

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This guy cooking sth

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And bring my unbuilt epinel in

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She cleanse wave like scarlet

grim iron
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yeah I've run epinel here and there for some stages because otherwise you lack good wave clearing on missilis

jade prawn
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We just need 1 cuz Maxwell is alrdy good