[Scarlet: Black Shadow] New Unit Megathread

[drowsy cedar]

i love when shej\

[lethal sky]

Tetris player

With d pad

[alpine oriole]

there is a mole on scarlet's butt

[rigid gale]

i discovered this first

ask @jade prawn

vouch for me

😠

[jade prawn]

He's using a harder way to do it anyways

Your way is better

[jade prawn]

And probably what'll be used

[warm dune]

do wat

[minor fox]

do a barrel roll

[jade prawn]

You can kinda cancel some of the animation delay..? Or at least thats what it feels like

If you press rmb button after releasing shot

@rigid gale explain to him what u do

[rigid gale]

uh your just lmb and rmb at the same time and use lmb to animation cancel

something along those lines

i mean i wasnt really taking it seriously i just discovered it while talking shit about the delay in a vc chat

its not hard to do so

[warm dune]

https://tenor.com/view/wow-surprised-face-little-boss-gif-alisa-gif-16133616529628653686

[warm dune]

that is true

[hasty palm]

They're gonna manual both

[low tendon]

So just click lmb and rmb at the same time

Then lmb again?

[rigid gale]

not really like that. its sort of hard to explain

but you basically alternate between lmb and rmb in a way where you keep her from going back into cover which readies her swings again

[rigid gale]

id recommend experimenting with it and telling me how it goes cause i can do it i just suck at explaining it mechanically lol

[low tendon]

Uhhh

[teal plover]

yo

is she gonna be good

like top tier?

[warm dune]

more likely than not

[rigid gale]

what

[shy vigil]

a macro that shoots , swaps to the other , shoots, swaps to the other , repeat , with no more delay than just macroing one character

I can see it

[shy vigil]

I am not even macroing alice so

XD

just saying I picture some tryhard doing that

[past venture]

The minmax booty

[crude drift]

That's only for the shooting preview

You don't have that in battle

[rigid gale]

aint no way

[crude drift]

Yes

It is with shotguns too

You can see

[rigid gale]

oh well

i wasnt planning on using it anyway no point in not full charging lol

[potent stag]

this pilgrims are gonna kill me

I don't get enough t9m's go around them

[jade field]

Shart

[valid flume]

this is literally same for everyone even playing since day 1

[foggy atlas]

I haven't even built up Snow White yet

[valid flume]

i might enroll into kisenix hoarding bootcamp

too broke

[thorny rose]

You mean the one where every new unit he goes "I need a refund on all the books I spent on the last unit" ?

[valid flume]

no the rock stacking and his ol efficiency thinking

[thorny rose]

The duality of man (kise)

[valid flume]

as we get too many meta right now, no amount of rocks can substain fully built nikke , so might as well stack them, only use low amount to make nikke usable, and save the rest for most liked/waifu nikke

[thorny rose]

I've been doing that from the beginning, much comfier

[valid flume]

i spend my rock like living on paycheck through paycheck

https://tenor.com/view/broke-no-cash-gif-25565154

[thorny rose]

Most do

[sturdy lion]

Yeah, I spend more rocks making OL gear than I do rerolling OL gear

cuz some subs are better than none, and the base stats from OL gear are often pretty important

[vague crown]

The most I've spent them are for rerolling stat slots, mostly on scarlet and alice

[tranquil portal]

if you swipe, how much rock can you realistically get without going broke?

[thorny rose]

Buyable rocks are still really limited too, you can buy what, like 6 more rocks per patch?

That'll cost you like $100 though since they're only in packs with other junk

[tranquil portal]

damn

[rigid gale]

I got gloves today which completed my next full set

Just thought youd want to know

[potent stag]

congrats

I have 4 gloves and 1 full set

[wooden turret]

Its likely this is nikkepedia only.

Like how you can spam shotgun on nikkepedia by spamming click instead of holding down button

Or pascal:
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1082586826084200459/1152368966656864296/Screen_Recording_20230915_162216_NIKKE.mp4?ex=6598813b&is=65860c3b&hm=49d6e1eabf9b37e0491240ce9f165d1ea429772d83f295aee7082dce133c58b1&

[dark hawk]

Just imagine another powercreep in February

|| ||

[tight grotto]

Valentine Nikke?

Someone's dressing up as Cupid.

[craggy osprey]

Atp if it's not limited, pilgrim or insanely broken like Jk's/bunnies i'm not pulling.

[split comet]

Sounds like a luck issue

[hasty palm]

13 selectors

[white python]

aye same issue as me

[white python]

mfw

[foggy iris]

Good thing Shiftup seems to be releasing only attack Nikkes so it’s worth

[rigid gale]

Same

No point

We have so many nikkes in the game people will eventually start looking at "what does this bring to the table for my account"

Rn all the tryhards are larping elemental advantage

But once all roles are filled there whats next?

You know whats next.

You know it

I know it

We all know it

Its the emperor's new clothes and no one wants to say it

Anniversary was the canary in the coal mines

[spare basin]

can we ban this man

[open sundial]

Yes... you only have 3 spare helmets, I have 9

[open sundial]

Start development of Nikke 2

[alpine oriole]

shitup finally putting their only two neurons together and realizing that people want giant USEFUL twerking butts, not just eyecandies

[mortal pendant]

Unless theyre from elysion

[serene sparrow]

Wait, that's an Andersen story
Inb4 Andersen is turned into a Nikke

[mortal pendant]

Bro nikke 2 is gonna be so fcking HYPE

Maybe even self published by shift up themselves

[zinc scaffold]

arcsys nikke fighting game

it would be flames

[mortal pendant]

Bro I was thinking about that yesterday I would DIE if they did that

Problem is idk how they would make that work

everyone uses guns

Nvm 99% of em use guns lol

[tranquil portal]

Is there a timer between charging the next shot for scarlet. ?

And whats the actual fire rate per second?

[jade prawn]

Like uhh

23 ms

[mortal pendant]

I can't wait for her to drop man

Gotta be one of the most anticipated units just from this wait alone

Can't wait to see how good or bad she truly is

[jade prawn]

Lol

Not even close to redhood

[lethal sky]

You are dead to me

[rigid gale]

no she's not

red hood is

[jade prawn]

People actually went crazy over redhood, is not even a competition

[potent stag]

salt is just annoying at this point

with event being out and banner being late

su just edges us smh

[mortal pendant]

Oh no I definitely agree RH was much more @rigid gale @jade prawn

I had made sure to say one of the most

For me at least lol

[deep musk]

we’ll measure hype with how many messages are sent in each unit’s megathead

scarlet looks pretty hype for now

[torpid birch]

30k vs 5k

[deep musk]

she’ll probably beat everyone but redhood

[vestal kettle]

only in boss stage right?

[deep musk]

I mean in terms of hype only lol

idk about her dps

[jade prawn]

I don't think scar beating 2b personally

[foggy atlas]

The only thing hype about Black Scarlet is that aggressive idle animation

[short flame]

how is the new scarlet looking up? is she worth pulling? what is she good in?

[torpid birch]

Check pinned messages

[craggy osprey]

Mobile users: do you have pins?

https://tenor.com/view/you-guys-are-getting-paid-gif-20686662

[rare dew]

Took me 5mins to find the pin

[torpid birch]

Yes, I do

||I won't update Discord until it force me||

[white python]

same

[lethal sky]

If scarlet was the first to drop its gonna be the same

Anni hypes everything

Tho her story need to come out too with the same amout of content

[deep musk]

Playing Counter-Strike 2

[languid drum]

I have 1 question.
Oscarlet with the OL what substats i must search?

[deep musk]

4elem 4atk 4ammo

most likely

[white python]

you only need 1 ammo no?

[deep musk]

maybe

why not more?

[white python]

well if her ideal pair is alice she’d run in bunnies

which would also make her s2 only need to be level 4 or something as well

bunnies and bastion should be more than enough theoretically

napkin math

and this is not counting max ammo on OL

so should be more than enough

if you want infinite scarlet though you might need another one

so ideally you’d probably want 1-2 max ammo OLs
4 attack%
2-4 ele dmg
2-4 charge damage/charge speed but dmg preferred

[dark hawk]

[deep musk]

makes sense

[gloomy fog]

I can’t seem to get pins here

Never mind. After the update, it’s way more convoluted to get pins. Have to tap the > at the top of the screen then tap settings to see pins

Very weird place to bury the pins

[tight grotto]

Stupid discord

How long until official Guilded Unofficial Community Server?

[valid flume]

whats the dps number now that we know the delay?

[white python]

most people have said around/above alice

but alice is also a great pair with her

so

[valid flume]

that sounds promising

i need a sw nuke power or super alice here, maybe sbs will fill the piece

[potent stag]

my campaign will be so fun when I get my mod

if I can get salt first, becaue I don't have enough to spark 2

[wicked marten]

Wouldnt getting close to 30 ammo especially if paired with alice be better? I cant imagine charge speed from ol makes much change when shes already so fast, i think max u could get from ol is around 16% ish? Which shouldnt get u much below 0.265 from 0.3 no?

[valid flume]

i suspecting if sbs hit too hard we can just ignore her shiet aoe

[grim iron]

you don't need 30 ammo on scarlet

[valid flume]

and make her a core pick

[grim iron]

she can't shoot that fast during burst

[wicked marten]

Oh really? I thought shed be able to hit around 2 times at least per second

[grim iron]

I mean 30 shots in a standard full burst is already gaming chair performance

[wicked marten]

Will depend on how good auto play does it i imagine

[grim iron]

and unfortunately scarlet doesn't have 99% charge speed nor will she even remotely hit it

[potent stag]

her 3rd s1 proc will hit for 0 anyways

in campaign

her 1st proc is not on target

[wicked marten]

Definitelt im just thinking charge speed is 0.3 so technically she can fire 3 per second i just dont know how much ai will stall when shooting

[grim iron]

best for scarlet would probably be running 2 ammo/4 elemental/4 attack/2 charge damage

[potent stag]

would you say salt is less reliant on ol's

or more reliant on it

[grim iron]

I mean if you're DPS at this point you require elemental damage

but in a way you're right that she doesn't require very specific OL stats to get going like say Alice

[white python]

yeah this was my thought process

but obv striving for god rolls is a lot so thats why I said charge speed

[white python]

less

she's very self sustainable

[grim iron]

I mean charge speed is okay to keep yeah

obviously not everyone is gonna aim for 12 OL stats

[white python]

but of course she does scale well with it

[grim iron]

I personally hope for 8 good OL stats but even that's expensive as fuck to get with this shit RNG

[wild trail]

More like, i dont think with the pace of them releasing high OL requirement unit, not many will be able to afford to get 12 good OL

Most will probably have to settle with 8-10

[tight grotto]

When the banner gonna drop?!

[neat juniper]

About 14 hours

[low tendon]

I thought it was a day and 14

[mortal pendant]

Nah 14

[neat juniper]

Ye when micas banner goes away

[valid flume]

please at least gib 1 useful line each ol

[mental totem]

Proceed to get max ammo, atk buff, and ele firs roll

[valid flume]

that top 10 raid roll

[minor fox]

you guys are getting pilgrim atk gear?

https://tenor.com/view/you-guys-are-getting-paid-gif-20686662

[stark ravine]

https://www.reddit.com/r/NikkeMobile/comments/18utm0x/consistent_super_speed_animation_cancel/

it doesn't trigger her passive BUT good for fast charge during down time

basically when 2,4,6 and so on cycles where the 2nd burst 3 skill is ready, you can use Scarlet to charge burst faster

[gloomy fog]

Is she gonna be a manual character?

I was hoping AI would control her

[wild trail]

I suppose its just going to be a check of how much dmg she does, vs the damage from passive

[silk quest]

during her burst, it's 750% over 3 hits vs 1500% from her S1. So her S1 should make up for 66% dmg

non burst, it's 1350% over 9 hits vs 1500% from her S1. So her S1 makes up for 52%

[tired ice]

So S1 S3 main priority

[tranquil portal]

she esentially has only 2 skills, they just make s2 to waste your mats

[rigid gale]

yeah her gameplay is terrible

this forced delay is like the worst design choice when they already make it so you need to full charge

like what is the point

[wild trail]

i mean.... that's their solution to prevent macro use....

so...

[mortal pendant]

Yah

Had to at least do something about it

[split comet]

But is auto actually the same or better than macro in this case?

[jade prawn]

Everything is better with macro

But scarlet will do like 90-95% of her damage on full auto which is good enuf

[open sundial]

I’m happy to hear that

~8 hours to Shadow banner

[jade prawn]

Isn't it at next reset?

11 hrs

[open sundial]

check_the_pins.gif Well, in official Discord’s questions channel

[jade prawn]

#events-schedule message

Oh

[obsidian elm]

freckle on her butt

[mortal pendant]

Id ask how do mfs notice this sht

But I already know

[obsidian elm]

i mean, her ass is literally right there

[mortal pendant]

I would have never noticed that normally someone had to zoom in 💀

Who's more degen the players zooming in and noticing it or the devs who put it there in the first place

[open sundial]

You neglect a very important factor. Us gacha players are very sensitive to dots.

[mortal pendant]

Grave digger gives me PTSD to circles

[sleek river]

rose has a mole above her left booba. they know that we'll know lol

[obsidian elm]

yeah, also, PC HD

it's easier to see

[mortal pendant]

Yah the definitely know what they are doing lol

[jade prawn]

Good joke

[tranquil portal]

well, 10/10/10 or not worth?

[rigid gale]

Wake up

[silk quest]

Scarlast soon

[dark hawk]

Oldscar

[simple ice]

Good that union raid still going, pretty good testing field

[toxic jewel]

Do we have the data yet?

About the firerate I mean

Or still have to wait in 1 hours?

[slim plank]

banner in 1 hour right ?

[sturdy lion]

Oh right, mocks can be done on the level 10 bosses even after completion.

[craggy osprey]

I shadow coming in like 6:30 hours?

[minor fox]

25 mins

[tulip shard]

she coming right now

i can confirm

[craggy osprey]

I see

Welp i don't have pulls anyways so one mileage and dip

[jade prawn]

https://nikke.gg/scarlet-black-shadow-analysis-and-theorycraft-should-you-pull/

They don't have mica

But they have scarlet

[spark mason]

testing her rn

[limpid ridge]

Alright its been 3 minutes. Whats the verdict gang? /s

[lavish breach]

Damn

30 rolls 2 scarlet 1 nodernia and a quency

[craggy osprey]

Isabel on step up recruit

[silk quest]

she shoots pretty fast I think

but her AoE is small

like really small

[spark mason]

2/4 OL
5-5-5 Skills

not bad actually

she can do damage

[tranquil portal]

L unit

[late halo]

whats her skill prio?

[spark mason]

ult and s1

[halcyon silo]

Nice sync

[tranquil portal]

Isn't that gud then, only lvl 200 still have high dmg

[halcyon silo]

RH b1

[jade prawn]

Need shots/s

Now

[craggy osprey]

How many ammo cap lines she needs?

[jade prawn]

Wait I can alrdy check that using bullets shot

Am I retarded

[spark mason]

So her 0.3 Seconds is actually her Charge to Full like Charge to 150%

which is bad

[lavish breach]

Damn her alter is so much kinder with ammo lines than og

[spark mason]

So her ult is actually making her having higher charge time since her charge damage is increased

[craggy osprey]

How many ammo lines she needs?

2?

[spark mason]

I don't think she needs ammo lines

She needs Charge Speed

She can reload her entire mag to 100%

in less than a second

[craggy osprey]

should i change any of this then?

[stuck violet]

whats the skill priority

[valid flume]

whats the skill priority

[spark mason]

ult then s1

w lineup actually not bad

[stuck violet]

ty

[spark mason]

considering she has shit gears

[jade prawn]

Dawg it's been 20 minutes

😭

Wait

[spark mason]

No verdict yet

Still under more testing

[storm tulip]

Skip, save for 2nd year anniversary trust

[vestal kettle]

against rebuild

[sturdy lion]

Juicy

That's Wind DPS acquired, at least

[rustic rivet]

Speaking of which

Salt is good against Rebuild

Because some of her dmg is direct hit

[craggy osprey]

Does she needs ammo cap?

[rustic rivet]

How much element OL?

[jade prawn]

17 shots during burst for me

Lol, 18 is possible I think

Lol

@halcyon silo

[rigid gale]

No you guys are nerds

[ruby pilot]

hows she in arena

[rigid gale]

I need final verdict now

😡

[civic verge]

How is she looking in PvP?

burst gen and such?

[jade prawn]

Should've said
"Yes."

[rustic rivet]

Bro

Ready for solo raid

[jade prawn]

I'm very sure 18 bullets is possible

[alpine oriole]

LOOK AT ME AND WEEP FOOLS, 10 FRIGGIN ROLLS NEW YEAR LUCK

now if only shitup gives me another pilgrim part

[rigid gale]

Isnt this the wrong channel for that

[rustic rivet]

Bro

[craggy osprey]

She needs EL?

[rustic rivet]

Just use tickets

Mileage

[alpine oriole]

[tranquil portal]

Ain't no way I have to mileage every new pilgrim

[jade prawn]

Bubba go to appropriate channels please

[tranquil portal]

is good for mlb3 or better 0?

[lavish breach]

Yea 3 ammo lines are too much

She nvr has 2 reload

Ever

[rigid gale]

Ok her delay isnt as bad as i thought ill stop calling her midlet

[valid flume]

top 10 raid lines here

[rustic rivet]

She only needs 1x max ammo

Cus ure gonna use her with Blanc Noir

[rigid gale]

For 1 minute

[rustic rivet]

2x if not

[alpine oriole]

another one that wants the bunnies

?

[spark mason]

fak I forgot to screenshot the individual damage

but W lineup for Grave Digger

[rigid gale]

We just need more good supports at this point

[rustic rivet]

Yeah mod shafted

[rigid gale]

5 teams and most supports are shit

Trolling

[rustic rivet]

Until wind element

[hybrid gazelle]

Midlet or godlet?

[rigid gale]

https://tenor.com/view/anton-chigurh-no-country-for-old-men-ok-oops-javier-bardem-gif-10579690

[craggy osprey]

What the f does she needs on ol stats for god sake

[stuck violet]

its in the pins

[spark mason]

investment-reliant so that means she is mid in lower to no investment and goodlet on higher investments

[halcyon silo]

90% of the time the same stuff everyone else needs

[uneven flame]

New scarlet better than OG scarlet?

[alpine oriole]

I wish I could pry old ols from my OG scarlet

[rigid gale]

Just get lucky.

Smdh

[alpine oriole]

the one that added the irregular shit into the game needs to be fired and blacklisted from the industry

[rigid gale]

💀

[spark mason]

actually not bad on Union Raid

[rigid gale]

Stats

[spark mason]

that's with 5-5-5 skills 2/4 OL LV1 Relationship

[rigid gale]

Ah. Nice

[fervent osprey]

4/4 OL, SL 10/10/10 no dupes

Normal Scarlet is Core Max +3

[spark mason]

jesus

[frosty hull]

It is sad that alice buffed her so much but i want to bench alice already

[spark mason]

so she's strong in her prime

[rigid gale]

Wonder how shit she is at story pushing

[spark mason]

Actually no, she's decent at waveclear if you pump charge speed

Her s1 proc is nuts

[rigid gale]

Say it aint so

A unit that isnt borked in all but one content?

Must be judgement day

[fervent osprey]

It's Scarlet

[spark mason]

[fervent osprey]

It's the baby girl of content pushing

[craggy osprey]

What's her cube again?

Don't tell me bastion

[frozen plaza]

charge speed cube

[fervent osprey]

With enough charge speed, she'll fire as fast as OG scarlet

[craggy osprey]

Good

[fervent osprey]

jk

[tulip shard]

who she kicks from Bunnies? Alice

?

[tranquil portal]

so, wich lvl is worth s2?

[small moat]

Modernia or Scarlet? who i gfet

[lavish breach]

Prob none with 2 ammo lines

[twilit peak]

is oscar unit for auto?
I dont feel so good playing her on manual (probs need more training)

[lavish breach]

Unless u have really high charge speed she nvr dips close to needing to reload

[fervent osprey]

especially when tagged with bunnies

[cobalt dirge]

Sky test with 1-1-1 Scalter

[lavish breach]

With 3 lines I'm always at above 20 ammo with litre and bunnies

[fervent osprey]

Scarlet dominates again

[jade prawn]

S1 = burst

To level 10

S2 I need to see breakpoints for

10/x/10
OL lines:
Elemental, Attack, Charge damage/speed, I will tell later on 3rd roll

[lavish breach]

Spd prob better than dmg right?

For lines

[jade prawn]

Ok I need to look into this
18 ammo might be possible with charge speed.

I can't speak on it right now

[craggy osprey]

guess i'm not having elem dmg then

still no pilgrim arm

[spark mason]

AINT NO WAY RH IS MORE INVESTED BUT SCALTER DID MORE DAMAGE?

[rigid gale]

Im craving fried chicken today

[white python]

10/4/10

[civic verge]

9/4/5 rn

[spark mason]

damn

[tranquil portal]

senkiu

[white python]

she needs like 1 max ammo OL and bastion and shes fine for her whole burst

with noir she might get infinite ammo

but idk cause im waiting till I have more pulls to pull for her

so just running trial vers

[lavish breach]

Why would u use bastion lol

[frigid arrow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1059468005911830558/1191039023456723024/image.png?ex=65a3fc87&is=65918787&hm=e4f36b3aed35f388a28c1c40a59937578d809ce51c5b57387761318ba06146f4&

[spark mason]

dont you wanna put Adjutant

instead of Bastion?

[lavish breach]

I mean what's the point of reload spd if she doesn't ever reload?

[spark mason]

ikr

[hybrid dome]

Oh God

SSS no doubt

[spark mason]

she is just when Privaty gives her buffs to Scalter

[white python]

NO FUCKING WAY

YES ANOTHER SYNCHRO SLOT

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gif-6997856904020830598

[spark mason]

S at best when you start out as her main DPS and without investment

SSS if you have her all maxed everything

[tulip shard]

synchro slot

[spark mason]

[toxic jewel]

So how is the fire rate?

[fervent osprey]

decent

[jade field]

10x6 Scarlet

[toxic jewel]

2/s or what?

[fervent osprey]

still needs charge speed

[wanton pagoda]

jeez sky test says a lot when shes 400m while rh 600m at skills 111

[white python]

doesnt really look like much delay

[toxic jewel]

I can't access the game rn

[jade field]

versus 10/10/10 core 7 RH

[white python]

but her with alice is CRACKED

and my alice only 5/1/5

cause I hate her

and dont want to build

but ig I have to

[fervent osprey]

It's another Vergil day baybeeeeeeee

[white python]

[jade field]

1.5/s

[fervent osprey]

I love my Vergil wives

[hybrid dome]

it's kinda hard to get that Pilgrim equipment

[wooden turret]

can just auto

[thorny mirage]

Scarlet skill prefer: 10/4/10

Ammo reload can cope later

Max skill 1 first

[wanton pagoda]

run privaty real

[white python]

with bunnies she doesnt even reload lol

[wanton pagoda]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/934119000777043978.webp?size=48&name=kekW&quality=lossless

[toxic jewel]

So the dude in the pv were holding it huh?

[frigid arrow]

https://tenor.com/view/dancing-dance-moves-grooves-lizard-gif-17757353

[jade field]

1 ammo OL is infinite ammo with bunnies

[rustic rivet]

OL Recommend:

• 1x Max Ammo (2x if NOT with LitBun)
• Elemental, ATK
• Charge Speed > Charge Damage

[toxic jewel]

This look much faster than the pv lol

[wooden turret]

Lol ye intern skill issue

[jade field]

wasnt it like, super obvious?

[thorny mirage]

Intern dumb

[wooden turret]

And its freaking auto lmao

[wanton pagoda]

need level 7 no?

[wooden turret]

No effort/skill required

[craggy osprey]

So the bozo in the PV was holding her charge

[white python]

no

[craggy osprey]

Mf

[halcyon wolf]

Skills lv?

[white python]

I just got noir

[jade field]

maybe

[craggy osprey]

She has no delay

[white python]

with trial scar

and level 5 noir

she fires all burst with no reload

[rustic rivet]

She has

230ms

It's correct

Proven too

KR calc was correct

[craggy osprey]

Not even close to 2a delay. The dude in PV seemed like it was

[willow sierra]

So 1 attack per 0.53s ?

[craggy osprey]

Coz he was holding it

[rustic rivet]

U watched wrong pv

[jade field]

0.68s

[rustic rivet]

U shud watch JP pv

[craggy osprey]

I watched the same on twitter

[tranquil portal]

The dude in PV was definitely playing in manual but with good tempo

[rustic rivet]

0.73s

[jade prawn]

Scar is an auto friendly character who will ball like LeBron

[craggy osprey]

That explains

[valid flume]

IDK GUYS

[hybrid dome]

Now i want dupe

[jade prawn]

Brooo

Wait

[craggy osprey]

Block these two

[rustic rivet]

Keep

[craggy osprey]

And reroll

[jade prawn]

Don't Reroll now we don't know ideal

[craggy osprey]

Lmao

[jade field]

what from?

[jade prawn]

Wait

[rustic rivet]

0.15s + 0.05s + 0.23s + 0.3s

[jade field]

oh yea

the random ass 0.05

[rustic rivet]

The 0.2 is the usual Alice delay

[white python]

okay

[rustic rivet]

200 in macro

[valid flume]

she doesnt need ammo right @rustic rivet

[white python]

with trial scarlet and level 5 alice s1 she fires 17 times

so she def should be able to hit 18

[rustic rivet]

She does need ammo

At least 1x

Or 2x if using her with Alice (and no Litbun)

[jade prawn]

Wait no please wait

[rustic rivet]

Or 1x if using her with Alice and Litbun

[jade prawn]

Wait for now

[wanton pagoda]

even with litbun and bastion?

[white python]

she seems to be holding up fine with no ammo OLs

[jade prawn]

Ol rolls need serious testing for confirmation

[jade field]

pairing with Alice increase her overall attack speed by over 30%
huge

[twilit peak]

does max ammo ol still needed?

[sturdy lion]

Not even using Bastion and she's doing gross damage

[vestal kettle]

ammo lines = low lvl s2, its still W

[valid flume]

im ready

[rustic rivet]

U doubt distributed damage counts?

It counts for 2B

Dont worry

[jade field]

it doesnt for Dorothy i heard

[jade prawn]

Atk and ele are guaranteed must have

• Need to know if charge speed > charge damage

• Need to know if 1 ammo is needed. If not running with lit bunnies alice, 1 ammo is musthave

[jade prawn]

I meant OL bro xDD

[jade prawn]

Fixed

[craggy osprey]

Can't have elemental dmg

[white python]

my testing with no max ammo OL and alice pair doesnt need

[jade prawn]

For now, kisenix intuition is charge speed > charge damage
1 ammo is musthave

[jade field]

charge speed > charge damage cuz you get more attack = more S1 proc

[white python]

and thats with level 5 skills on noir and alice

[rustic rivet]

Bro ditched Alice

[jade field]

bruh just... common sense ?

[foggy iris]

[foggy iris]

So Scarlet alter needs same OL stats as Alice?

[jade field]

nope

completely different

[trail dome]

how is she in pvp? does her aoe hit more than 1 nikke?

[tulip shard]

Ammo looks so so

on Scar

[white python]

i really dont think she needs it

cause im testing it rn

ill even do scope lock so everyone is 10/10/10

[tulip shard]

Even on Sky stream it looks so

[rustic rivet]

She needs 1

[tulip shard]

maybe outside of Bunnies

[rustic rivet]

With Alice

[white python]

no bunnies yeah

[white python]

im gonna test it with s1 10 alice rn

[sturdy lion]

I have two 68.93% rolls atm

[craggy osprey]

Bruh how am i supposed to reroll for elem dmg when i got this alrdy

[jade field]

reroll any of them, easy

[craggy osprey]

What💀

[jade field]

they're mid anyways

[dark hawk]

4/4/4 vs iron

[craggy osprey]

Surely

[dark hawk]

oscar mlb rh core 4

[jade field]

charge damage is beyond mid

[white python]

nah

[sturdy lion]

Onslaught cube ded for a reason

[jade prawn]

@civic verge can u do me a favour

Use:
Blanc scarwind Rapunzel centi jackal
On rookie arena and send me the video here

[sturdy lion]

[white python]

even with s1 10 alice you dont need it

of course this is with s2 level 10

but

no bastion

cause trial

so its easily fine

[jade field]

and you dont need more than 1 ammo, so just roll the ammo + charge dmg first

[serene sparrow]

Worth pulling for?

[jade prawn]

@jade field man is u sure charge speed > charge damage?

[craggy osprey]

Pins say needs 2

[jade prawn]

100% must pull

[civic verge]

Against what?

[craggy osprey]

And charge dmg is not mid what are you yapping

[rustic rivet]

What was onslaught again

[sturdy lion]

Feels like Adjutant might be best?

[serene sparrow]

Wat about main campaign?

[sturdy lion]

Charge Damage

[jade prawn]

Anything

[civic verge]

Even god comp?

[rustic rivet]

Adjutant is Scar's best cube btw

[sturdy lion]

Yeah, seems like it

[jade prawn]

What pins say 2 dawg

[rustic rivet]

But if same level

[jade prawn]

I can pull up message history

[sturdy lion]

She doesn't fire fast enough to use Bastion

[jade field]

there has to be some break point (of charge speed) to get additional attacks in
but charge damage is so mid because 1. she has 300% based charge damage on burst
2. her damage comes from S1 mainly

[sturdy lion]

Well, if you have no ammo rolls, I guess

[craggy osprey]

you deleted

[white python]

imma record

[jade prawn]

The breakpoint for now is 5% cs according to gstrix

Lemme confirm

Ok lemme cook a pin now

[tulip shard]

won't cs make ammo a bigger requirement?

[jade field]

it doesnt matter lol

more damage = just get it

[rustic rivet]

Ok, now whats important is to make sure she never reloads at all the whole game

[craggy osprey]

so this is better?

[rustic rivet]

[craggy osprey]

i have no rocks anymore fck

[rustic rivet]

62s of shooting

[sturdy lion]

I'm at 4.4% CS currently

[jade field]

yes but not by alot cuz low % + only 1 line lol

[dark hawk]

always vs iron code

[rustic rivet]

Wait Scarlet get ammo buff on S2?

[valid flume]

no more charge speed ?

[white python]

yes

thats why im saying no ammo

[rustic rivet]

Oh

[white python]

cause her skill +noirs is enough

[rustic rivet]

I must have missed that shit

[sturdy lion]

Ah, got a 3.75% CS roll, so >5% with Adjutant

[twilit peak]

ok I have more than enough now (11.6% cs)

[white python]

my recording isnt working

but tldr

[jade field]

bruh plz dont make me level my Adjustant

[white python]

if all is level 10 she doesnt need ammo

[rustic rivet]

@jade prawn whats S2 base level values?

[dark hawk]

4

[tulip shard]

it does though to know ideal stat requirements

[jade prawn]

God idk lmao

[foggy atlas]

How's Black Scarlet's waveclearing?

[jade prawn]

Lemme see what to do

[tulip shard]

but fair point

[rustic rivet]

WHATS S2 BASE LEVEL VALUES

[jade field]

i read that wrong

[tulip shard]

she a SR in disguise

[white python]

i did napkin math with half

as base value

[sturdy lion]

We need level 1 skill values for S2?

[spiral marsh]

40/30

[prisma narwhal]

lv 7 to 100% reload

[white python]

oh

[thorny mirage]

Reroll like this?

[white python]

max ammo buff is better than I expected

for level 1

anyways

just need to level to whatever = 100% when running with noir

noir is 40%

[sturdy lion]

Yeah, I was expecting 20% for Max Ammo at level 1

[white python]

wtf

[sturdy lion]

[fierce pawn]

Bias lineup iron element enemy shooting range
10/6/10
c7
T10+5 all except boots

[jade prawn]

Scarlet investments:

Skill requirements
10/7/10
S2 and lvl7 needed for 100% reload

OL gear:
Must need
4 ele
4 atk
Total 4.9% value of charge speed gives 1 more ammo during burst
1 ammo

If u get more CS rolls, a total of ~11% will give 1 more ammo during burst.

[rustic rivet]

Skill 2 is 6

[thorny mirage]

Charge speed

[serene sparrow]

Is campaign hard for her? Basically a sniper with slightly more aoe

[jade prawn]

I want 100% reload

[thorny mirage]

There's no reason for charge dmg when her main dmg is s1 + s3

[jade prawn]

Ok

[thorny mirage]

It's like SAnis shenenigan again

[plucky frost]

Scarlet lb0 skill 7-1-5 no atk from ol vs RH skill 9-10-10 30% atk boss Armstrong (no ele advantage)

[frigid arrow]

So just one copy or MLB

[tranquil portal]

good unit

[sturdy lion]

Auto?

[plucky frost]

yeah full auto

[rustic rivet]

How much reload is lv 6

Bro her reload OVERLAPS with Noir

[lavish breach]

Who the hell is going 2 manual shoot with scarlet lol

[rustic rivet]

U don't need 100%

[jade prawn]

80%

[loud cypress]

is charge dmg bad for scalter?

[tulip shard]

charge dmg bad forever

[sturdy lion]

Pretty much that

[tulip shard]

unless they give 5900%

[sturdy lion]

Charge Damage needs a unique kit built on it to actually have relevance

[wooden turret]

Refill is 100%

[rustic rivet]

Yeah you get 14 ammo with Noir (restore 38.34% at Lv 9), then 19 ammo with her S2 (restore 80%).

[tulip shard]

charge damage to ammo conversion

[rustic rivet]

Like how the fuck is that not enough

[lethal sky]

Tldr?!

[rustic rivet]

Skill 2 level 6 is 80%

Above that useless

[lethal sky]

Did i do it wrong?

Core worth?

Skill priority is right

?

[lavish breach]

No 1st is higher priority

Than burst

[tulip shard]

Moderina in shambles soon man

[lethal sky]

No more book

[thorny mirage]

Charge dmg bait as always

[tulip shard]

relegated to MG comp for raid

🦗

[lethal sky]

Now we can run double scarlet

[limpid ridge]

Does edgy scarlet took the spot for bunny tean?

[lethal sky]

Think so

From all the screens

I saw

[thorny mirage]

Yup, Alice support

[tulip shard]

she likes bunnies , and Alice

and next raid most likely Water

[thorny mirage]

Alice support Scarlet

[limpid ridge]

RIP modernia 2022-2023

[tulip shard]

i mean wind weak*

[hybrid dome]

i don't want play with you anymore

[lethal sky]

Modernia team 2-3 now?

[tulip shard]

and ofc you not playing a RL in Naga Tia

Can't play mod in Naga Tia

unless campaign is a raid

[limpid ridge]

Atleast 3 since 2nd is schoolgirl

And 3 usually doro sAnis reload team sooo

[hybrid dome]

Modernia got Scarleted

[lethal sky]

Lol

[loud cypress]

so chargedmg is bad for her?

[thorny mirage]

Since when charge dmg useful

[loud cypress]

[stuck violet]

are we charge speed gaming

[tulip shard]

can cope with CD cube

but who leveled that cube

[lethal sky]

Wait cdmg is bad roll?

Increase charge time or smth?

[sturdy lion]

Always has been

[tulip shard]

Charge damage is what i meant

but yeah

it's better than nothing

[limpid ridge]

I guess imma move modernia with pepper, dolla and 2B for team 4

[sturdy lion]

It's better than Hit Rate

[tulip shard]

Mica Diesel Mod Lud

[lethal sky]

2b is on team 8 for me

[tulip shard]

you guys didn't believe

[limpid ridge]

OH RIGHTT the MG team lets goo

[full oracle]

I have 600 gold tickets

Is it time

[jade field]

yuuuup

keep in mind enemy likely has 10/10/10 noise and rapunzel

scarlet 10/4/6

[rustic rivet]

Skill 2 does not need to be past Level 6 (yes, not 5, not 7) if paired with Liter Bunnies as it does NOT give any DPS buff or whatsoever, even with Alice. This is because Noir already refunds her ammo partially. Place her to the left of Scarlet!

So, just ignore Snake's recommendation if you're planning to run her with LitBunNoir. “Remove last line mf [pepe]” - Snake, 2023/4.

[jade prawn]

Remove last line mf

[tulip shard]

maybe next pilgrm won't be Bunnies Naga Tia slave

team 5 cope asf for another raid

[foggy atlas]

So is Black Scarlet just a really good bosser or what? If that's all she's good for I'mma prolly skip.

[spark mason]

Scalter is a good wave clearer with boss-clearing capabilities

[wicked marten]

Scarlet is sexy

[rustic rivet]

Added.

[sturdy lion]

Just cleared the hard campaign wall I was stuck on with her

[valid flume]

she does lots of damage, this is nihilister and xlud has 2ele

[tight grotto]

Hm. This is the first time I didn't pull the banner Nikke in the first three pulls.

Is this a Limited?

[sturdy lion]

Nope, just Pilgrim

[wicked marten]

Is one ol for ammo really ok? Definitely sure we dont need 2?

Just making sure to see if i should reroll it into attack or not

[rustic rivet]

use Alice

wait no

why r u using Tiga with Scalt

I mean

it gives atk buff

ill take it

[jade prawn]

Idk, he's using tiga for nihil as well

[jade prawn]

Use bunnies

Maybe

[eager nova]

what cube for her?

[jade prawn]

Does it lower Ur CP too much

[jade prawn]

@rustic rivet ?

[rustic rivet]

I'd say..........

Adjutant is best but actually it's a trap

Bastion best

not Resilience

because u still need to shoot AFTER

burst

so the AFTER

will be covered by Bastion

[eager nova]

ty

[rustic rivet]

pretty expensive unit

but not as gay as RedHood (10 10 10)

u only need 10 6 10 here

not gay

u mightprobably get away with S2 level 5

tbh

lmao

[sturdy lion]

As a note, 10/10 Noir + 2 68.95% Max Ammo rolls make Bastion 100% pointless

[rustic rivet]

dont get max ammo

useless

@jade prawn

actually

with Bastion

u prolly dont need level 6

lmao

Bastion already gives 42.8%

refund

stacked

above

everything else

I think level 5 is okay

lol

[wooden bramble]

why 6 for s2?

[rustic rivet]

without Bastion, should cover entire Burst

[jade prawn]

Bastion gives 3 ammo back wdym

[rustic rivet]

yeah that is 42.8% refund

[valid flume]

my liter is ded feels like same like rh for me, just not that busted to get me through, still 450+ bar left

[jade prawn]

9+3+5 from lvl6?

[jade prawn]

How much additional ammo is lvl6 s2

[vestal kettle]

why his scar burst so weak...

[wicked marten]

I still dont really understand why she doesnt make use ammo ol can someone explain, does she get enough bullets from her s2 and noir to last the whole burst even if paired with alice?

[sturdy lion]

S2 + Noir = infinite ammo

[jade field]

cuz no buff

[wicked marten]

Infinite?

How?

[sturdy lion]

Because she doesn't fire fast enough to expend her ammo

and S2 + Noir refill

[wicked marten]

Isnt her s2 only when she bursts or is it any full burst?

[frosty dove]

any

[sturdy lion]

Any full burst

[wicked marten]

Oh wow

Damn

Well i will reroll my ammo line then lol

[sturdy lion]

But if you want to use her without bunnies, you'll want the rolls

[jade field]

good damage

[sturdy lion]

Maximizing vs flexibility

[hybrid dome]

is the purpose for RH only for S1?

[wicked marten]

Its gonna be sad taking mod out of there but it is what it is

[sturdy lion]

Testing her limits of infinite fire without bunnies atm

[jade field]

yea

[hybrid dome]

https://tenor.com/view/i-dont-want-to-play-with-you-anymore-toy-story-i-dont-wanna-play-with-you-anymore-dont-wanna-play-no-more-play-gif-26906930

[jade field]

the guy above is way too invested
this is more fair

[sturdy lion]

So Bastion + Lvl 4 S2 + 138% Max Ammo OLs (2 68.95%) is overkill (this is no Noir)

If you switch to Adjutant, she only lasts 1m10s until reload (both lvl 7 cubes)

[slim plank]

what cp different ? and below vid

[vestal kettle]

against gd...

[craggy osprey]

Is liter needed on bunnies team?

[sturdy lion]

Eating well even with bad subs

[vestal kettle]

gaming chair alice btw...

[stark ravine]

Alright whales, how is Salt?

good as expect?

[sturdy lion]

Very

[stark ravine]

how strong is she?

compare to Scarlet

[sturdy lion]

LOL

There's no comparison to Scarlet

[vestal kettle]

its midcarlet and scarlet now

[dark hawk]

Normal scarlet sucks bro

[sturdy lion]

She's in comparison with Alice and RH

[dark hawk]

She is mid

[stark ravine]

bruh

[jade field]

Zeruel is the above vid.

Note that both player has about the same synchro level as me (within 2 levels different) -> Zeruel is extremely invested
my own team is 312 k

[dark hawk]

Oscar instead is top 3 dps

[stark ravine]

solo boss with no mob, right?

[craggy osprey]

Alright now test both scarlets on campaign and see who's better solo

[sturdy lion]

Yeah, testing on Union Raid bosses

[stark ravine]

wow

[sturdy lion]

Tech just had gaming chair Alice lose vs Gravedigger

[stark ravine]

how about against mobs?

[jade field]

mid

[mental totem]

If I understand this correctly ele > atk ?

[jade field]

and also heavily vary depends on how many mobs

[sturdy lion]

vs mobs, she's comparable to A2 imo

[craggy osprey]

Scarlet still better then for campaign

[sturdy lion]

So probably useful in certain stages, but eh

[jade field]

i'd think so

[craggy osprey]

They both has their uses

Shadow is better for boss then?

[civic verge]

Best cube to use on her for now?

[craggy osprey]

And scarlet for mob wave clearing

[sturdy lion]

Bastion if you don't have Max Ammo rolls is the current stance (and Max Ammo rolls aren't preferable)

[jade prawn]

For me, yes
For some people, no

[sturdy lion]

Ele vs ATK is always the same argument, no?

ATK is more flexible, but Ele is more powerful (when applicable)

I see her as primarily being a raid unit, so Ele is #1 imo

[mental totem]

Then I suppose I will go with Ele = Atk in term of priority

[sturdy lion]

Especially since we don't have another high tier Wind DPS

That artificially increases her value

[minor fox]

ele is good if you wanna tryhard coop as well

[sturdy lion]

Yup yup

[minor fox]

she's gonna be the go-to wind dps for coop

[rigid gale]

why are so many people saying shes mid

in general chat

[sturdy lion]

Probably saw a single medicore screenshot and bandwagon'd?

[summer iron]

so it's confirmed charge spd > chg dmg?

[jade prawn]

Tell them @jade prawn said get a brain

[sturdy lion]

Speed always > Damage

[jade prawn]

Yes

[summer iron]

kk

[rigid gale]

yeah no joke @jade prawn i saw someone post gameplay of them pushing story and they said she was mid.... but the entire gameplay they did not full charge. which we know what happens when you dont full charge

[valid flume]

MTFK, 10 minutes ago u guys said no cs needed

[hybrid dome]

skill issue

[valid flume]

rollercoaster lab

[misty perch]

Sooooo... what cube?

[rigid gale]

spoiler alert after i told them to try the same thing but actually full charging, they cleared

[frozen plaza]

oh she is very good at mob clear

[jade prawn]

4 people keep telling me cs is better

I give up

[frozen plaza]

totally not mid

[rigid gale]

ngl that was trolling

[valid flume]

.

[jade prawn]

Fck u

[full oracle]

Alright I used the tickets. Y’all made me cave for Scalter. Is she better with Bunny Team I was reading?

[dark hawk]

So I just need ATk and ele?

[hybrid dome]

she is

[full oracle]

Bunny Team it is

[hybrid dome]

also charge speed

[dark hawk]

But they said cs is mid

[sturdy lion]

[dark hawk]

[hybrid dome]

you can see it on pin

[dark hawk]

[stark ravine]

worth MLB?

[valid flume]

eden pin

[dark hawk]

Yes

I MLB her cuz I like oscar

[sturdy lion]

We're going into a period of standard pickups, so we should be able to save resources again if we don't get a collab jumpscare

[jade prawn]

Dumbasses fr

Also for campaign, wait for momoland testing