#[Mica: Snow Buddy] New Unit Megathread
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Hmmm
Sadly not :c
midca
Why are you like this
midca
Cant believe you wont forget 27.8% but forget Helm, Laplace, and SNeon
I do know laplace is not as useful late-game
laplace was great early before they released ~26 better dps
Never forget AoE burst Helm
sky cooking Mica Diesel
You're forgetting Modernia lol
forget about Da Baby
Mica burst dispel Modernia Skill 1 debuff
And helps keep buff stack up
Really? That means cocoa could do that too?
yes
Too bad A2 buff stuck to debuff.
Midca 
Midca gets a thread but not Rei 
Rei did not meet the height threshold for a thread
midca
Flopca
Why you lolicon

So must pull even though she's mid?
Can't you just use cocoa?
its just speculation anyway, i really doubt youd be able to remove debuffs from simulation using characters, just straight up defeats the point of debuffs
She isn't mustpull
She's an easy skip
No matter what anyone tells you

Eh shes worth 1 copying
I would do 20 max
Just in case we get another team 5 dps unit that may rely on stacking
if she comes she comes
Yea but f2p have no rights

Confirmation from momo


phuc nguyen
yeah got to skip mica banner

I actually do like Tove. If I were to build around using these two at B1, what are good 2 +3 slots?
@mental mulch this is the guy u want to ask, cult leader, coper of the year
Mica Marciana sugar drake tove
Or
Mica guilty sugar helm Tove
Burst once with tove and then always burst with mica
midca
Flopca
One copy
Midca, Midcrown, Midchime = good to save ressources
Bricking urself by skipping meta mica
I’m more enticed by her dispel, would be good more offensive alternative to cocoa
you use cocoa for her barrier recover
there's such little cases you need to use dispel smh
inb4 CB heavily debuff your attack
Dispel is supposed to be very powerful, but there was so much fear over it being too powerful, they nerfed it before releasing it. Raptures casting the nastiest of things on you? Can’t dispel.
Though by that.. I’m referring to the stun shackles
Also the cripple reload speed shackles
If could dispel those, wouldn’t have that been amazingly useful?
Jbtw chatterbox can use dispel
He has stacks that can build up on your nikkes 
If it builds enough stacks your nikke insta dies

then the whole accidentally dispelling A2's B-mode
So who is pulling for mica for tests? Not me lol
one copy for sure
but the maths guys will test
hopefully Xanne dupes to continue terrorizing plebs in Pvp
sky pulls I guess
is she trash?
Yes
what the fuck
Is xmica great/mid for pvp?
Coolio thanks
Wait isn’t the s2 op? Triple burst Gen?
may the lord give me the strength to sustain gambling addiction and not pull her to save gems
if she was rocket launcher maybe itd be broken
oh yeah if it affected the team itd be great but nah
last Christmas be like 
triple burst rate of an smg is equivalent to a non-clip RL lol
Big skip?
bad -> ok I guess
A non clip rl that isn't spamming lol
You might as well use Scarlet
why would I even use xmica in the first place lol
She's a fine replacement for non liter havers and raids. At least she's better than miranda
Definitely has a spot as a b1 in team 4-5
Mica dolla x X X
Raid team 
im just gonna wait and see what will the top wizards cook up on this SR
Mica cleanse maybe cooking
pins
She can dispel chatterbox stacks too, yeah
📍📌📌📌📍
scroll where isnt the kit 5 lines
i can't see the pins
New discord moment
also she's on nikkepedia already now for some time
discord is weird for me after new update
u cant login or see it on twitter 😢 but u can come here to discuss her kit
you can read her kit ingame for quite a while now
bro u literally give me everything
so safe to skip?
why not use miranda instead of xmica lol
Yes
Her banner goes 2-3 days into new years so
Yes. skip for now
Just wait for Pilgrim new years banner 
skip gang skip gang
What if xMica was bait?
it looks so hard to pull off tho
so many builds
by the time i have stuff to build diesel someone replacing mica and diesel will come
That's the issue, let's hope they will give us more ressources for 2024 in order to enjoy more units and more teams building. That should be the core of the game to be able to test and build more easily differents comps
thatd be great
because yeah its so easy to get bricked
u just need 2 units back to back and then u are stuck building them 2 months
For now we are just stuck to build super meta teams/units
yes exactly
I still didn't finish RH
i only finished her because i reset my 10/4/10 guilotine
How to build different nikkes when we can't even get enough fodder gear to upgrade them
me missing my ludmillia boot ( i have never got one in a year )
Agree I raised these issues during the survey
I suggested them to gurantee 100% manufacturer gear or costume module each time we clear the SI
its a shame this probably the biggest barrier to entry for trying to new teams
pushing 100+ nikkes it takes months to build one

can't even reset OL
yeah for a game that has such fun teambuilding, you cant easily team build
it is clearly and it's why they should more focus on the fun for players to test different teams building
gets worse when you try to consider different game modes
if you try to improve pvp comp, SR comps don't move for that seaosn
1000% agree and also I pointed this out during the survey
ive given up on pvp its literally afk to get 2k gems for me at this point
if i try to sweat i have to fight every day and the only thing i get more is 300-600 more gems
id rather afk
and get my 2k

honestly i felt the same
they should really think how to maybe get people to play it again
but then that translates to most other game modes too for me
like i don't think I'll ever struggle 1% for SR or campaign
i mostly just play for solo raid because i find it fun and for story
so atp there's no reason to build more Nikkes, but I'd like to
Real
SR the funniest thing about the game imho
I also suggested them a boss rush mode with gems to win at the end
and for the mini game I suggested them to do it like a mini rogue lite game with successive rooms to explore
well for me its like, i already hit under 0.5% in solo raid if i try enough, and thats around the amount of struggle i have fun putting in, but if i could build more teams id play more to try things out definitely
boss rush would be AWESOME dude
i never thought about that
that would be sick as hell
World boss would slap too
clearly !
yeah world boss too
but atp please just new level of interception
world boss in collab
yeah i wish i had something like interception that was challenging, i legit enjoyed playing nikke daily because i found the interception challenging
but it hasnt been for months
now with red hood its 10 second gameplay
some bosses are not well balanced I think
alteisen is too hard compared to the others
@sweet ibex lemme guess, xmica is C for PvP?
Haven't tested her yet but likely C if her burst gen just matches regular RL. She offers some value but not enough to be meta.

midca is just N102 at home
keep in mind midca max core in shooting range
you wont have that, so her buff will be 20% less
What do you mean?
How do you get the score to show along with the damage breakdown? That’s handy
you know how she needs 120 and 150 attacks to land for s1 and s2
they're on phone
they are scale off skill level so they are like much more on lower levels
you need to get 10-10-10 for a test on mica
Yeah. Isn’t that part of the skill in black text? I thought that means it doesn’t change?
I haven't pulled,, but I was on skys stream for like 3 secons and I saw like 240 hits on s2 for a low level
probably doubled at lvl1
wtf
That’s so bad
I assumed only the blue text changed
She needs high investment to be decent…
Maxing Mica for Tove tech, sounds gutsy
she need high investment to be tested ong
Well, that prydwen guy invested in tove, so now he needs heavily invested midca to make his tove investment worth it
He can still back out and use a skill reset opportunity to blank out Tove. Won’t change the breakthroughs or OLs but I don’t think he OL’d Tove… Since that part wasn’t essential to Tove working right
True
stones however
It’s 220 normal attacks at S2 LVL1, 150 at an unknown S2 LVL…
S1’s normal attacks threshold isn’t tied to S1 LVL, it’s always 120.
congrats ? or condolences?
ok guys
this is totally my 10/10/10 mica
? If you mean for pulling her, it took 20 pulls so no big deal. The first 10 got Scarlet
It’s more about sharing the LVL1 skills information when I posted that screenshot
Btw Mica trash
Don't listen to anyone who says otherwise
Her total use is the following:
- PvP she has RL level burst gen, but her S2 needs to be levelled in order to increase her burst gen, which is a joke in our opinion since it still only brings her to noah level burst gen.
- her cleanse can be used in every way like cocoa's can be used. So to clean up ultra poison, remove charge speed debuff from a boss I forgot the name of, remove atk debuff from doctor, remove chatterbox stacks.
- you can pair her with dolla/Shelm to get a team going.
Example: mica dolla b3 b3 healer - you can pair her with tove to give shotguns omega boost.
Mica can essentially keep tove's atk buff active permanently
This is because tove's burst skill is a stackable buff. And mica can increase/refresh stack count for it infinitely.
Example of tove teams: - Mica tove guilty SG helm
- mica tove marciana SG SG
That's it for mica. She exists for nothing else. She is overall, VERY EXTREMELY MID.
You can cope for future stuff
That a nikke who is greatly affected by stack count will be released, a very OP shotgun will be released, but that's it really.

Mid units are always welcome to save for next big banner
20 is Pog

I'll drop a 20 too
I tried to collect MLB and it blew up in my face
Started beautiful, ended in tragic comedy
But nevermind, that, people will only know that I got her in 20 

There will an OP Mica and she will be Elysion 
2024 will be Elysion year
even w,ith a elysion year
they might not catch up to other manu
or they really need to be op af
bare minimum: release at least 1 very OP elysion unit in 2024
did anyone mention isabel
So Xmica is basically only used for tove build and that's it
None of the two main teams for her are cope
Mica Diesel
Mica tove
Are decent teams
It's just that we have insanely better teams if we are day 1
But for newer players
A team 5 doing 25% of bunny team damage is huge.
Tbh I view her as an upgrade of N102
N102 has no cooldown reduction, and is the universal “use her” if someone didn’t have Liter, Dorothy, Volume
Yeah I guess for new players mica is super helpful
But I wouldn’t be telling anybody to gold mileage her with what we currently know
I mean
She also cleanses those atk buffs from random raptures
So she's I guess usable for campaign
N102 is SR so

I don't think that's a high bar
You just dissed all the other SSR B1s that got passed over when commanders rush to suggest N102 in team builds 
There’s a fair bit.. Milk is sad
Noah at lvl10
Guilty at lvl1
downgrade
N102 has better attack buff

the cleanse is absolute useless 99% of the time
Winter Mica has dmg taken reduction and max ammo buff, these don’t offset the ATK buff difference?
the 40% ammo buff is very mid
that's just 1 below average ammo OL line
and when you have no copy of her, the atk buff is even lower
N102 has +3 ammo
which is +50% for RL/ SR and +33% for SGs

How good is mica?
Cleanse + burst gen equals to noah. I can try to see if she can be a noah counter, but lvl 10 investment on skill 2...
Btw Mica trash
Don't listen to anyone who says otherwise
Her total use is the following:
- PvP she has RL level burst gen, but her S2 needs to be levelled in order to increase her burst gen, which is a joke in our opinion since it still only brings her to noah level burst gen.
- her cleanse can be used in every way like cocoa's can be used. So to clean up ultra poison, remove charge speed debuff from a boss I forgot the name of, remove atk debuff from doctor, remove chatterbox stacks.
- you can pair her with dolla/Shelm to get a team going.
Example: mica dolla b3 b3 healer - you can pair her with tove to give shotguns omega boost.
Mica can essentially keep tove's atk buff active permanently
This is because tove's burst skill is a stackable buff. And mica can increase/refresh stack count for it infinitely.
Example of tove teams: - Mica tove guilty SG helm
- mica tove marciana SG SG
That's it for mica. She exists for nothing else. She is overall, VERY EXTREMELY MID.
You can cope for future stuff
That a nikke who is greatly affected by stack count will be released, a very OP shotgun will be released, but that's it really.
what counter. she cleanse ally debuff
not enemies buff

So a pvp unit
a mid pvp unit

Initially it's just less than guilty
At lvl10 just higher to noah
Imma saving my gems brothers
I can consider this
but noah isnt that high
@final mango so do I pull for her or no?
basically at this point just pull her cuz she MIGHT be good in the future
it's cope af
just like Tove
unlike Tove you cant pull her till next year tho lol
ppl skipping Mica like this guy skip his rock
and it's also in the thematic of the mini game with Mica trying to skip rock 😁
Btw Mica trash
Don't listen to anyone who says otherwise
Her total use is the following:
- PvP she has RL level burst gen, but her S2 needs to be levelled in order to increase her burst gen, which is a joke in our opinion since it still only brings her to noah level burst gen.
- her cleanse can be used in every way like cocoa's can be used. So to clean up ultra poison, remove charge speed debuff from a boss I forgot the name of, remove atk debuff from doctor, remove chatterbox stacks.
- you can pair her with dolla/Shelm to get a team going.
Example: mica dolla b3 b3 healer - you can pair her with tove to give shotguns omega boost.
Mica can essentially keep tove's atk buff active permanently
This is because tove's burst skill is a stackable buff. And mica can increase/refresh stack count for it infinitely.
Example of tove teams: - Mica tove guilty SG helm
- mica tove marciana SG SG
That's it for mica. She exists for nothing else. She is overall, VERY EXTREMELY MID.
You can cope for future stuff
That a nikke who is greatly affected by stack count will be released, a very OP shotgun will be released, but that's it really.
it's aight if u got the pulls
Yeah I swiped

And got MLB Anne 
Im skipping lol
Like the while xmas unit i skipped all 
Summer is gonna drain me dry

What about the ammo thing when paired with Diesel? Doesn't that enable a MG team? For 5th team or early game?
it's cope af
Bruh how do you check pins on the new mobile app lmao
Edit: nvm
you running Diesel for more ammo instead of a CDR unit

why just not get ammo OL
and it need tons of investment
on top of ammo OL
you dont run Xludmila and Modernia in 5th team anyways
@final mango btw uhh did someone do a comparison with other B1s available for team 5 SR?
they already have better buffers
4 teams have
Liter doro volume miranda
5th choice is
Mica, pepper, SMary, cocoa, soda, tove, n102
And who
N102 for atk buff
Tove Dolla Viper Neve Vesti for chatterbox 
40 for 5 and scale of caster attack
so it's like 20-25% worse
its more like 30% for 5 compare to N102
Damn
so , as a supporter, Mica base atk is already 15% less than an attacker
and if you have her at lb0 , it's another 20% less
cuz N102 can buff your core 7 attacker at full strength

Glad that I spent all my tickets on Xlud and mlb'ing her instead of mica
Still she has dispel
I still suggest pulling one
Hell no if they start putting out more debuff bosses
Its niche
But when niche is needed
Its irreplaceable
I think i stopped suggesting Tove Mica
Ill probably run Tove Guilty Dolla Scarlet Helm
Does she dispel taunt @solid wing
ez skip. later new pvp meta 
taunt isnt a debuff
Sometimes it is
Iirc
I'll have to test on a boss
I never categorised all of them
midca S2 at lv1 requiring 220 hits 
Mica great yet?
ok future man, who won the 2024 US president election?
elon
Me
(i'm not american)
Troll momentos

Tbh dont just use Pepper
Im thinking of
Tove Guilty 2B Scar Pepper
Or use Dolla instead of Pepper
midca
use with epinel and her ridiculous self atk buff
She needs to kill one
Use with Rosanna better
Be smart
Rosanna Mica XAnne x Maiden/RH taunt
@brittle venture watch Rosanna be a thing after they release B3 20s

isnt rosanna's triggered by death of teammates
if you can turn on rosanna's you can turn on epinel
Epinel is by death of enemies
So how's the thing with Mica and Tove, I still can't figure out the clip size SAnis will end up with maxed burst and low level s1 on Tove, and now with Mica keeping the 72% atk up
that's definitely more than 1
too
She can cheer from the sidelines like a good daughter
Actually, I wonder if SAnis still gets 1 shot clip with her burst maxed, if Tove and Mica have their s1 at level 1 for minimum ammo capacity increase
Are we looking at B-C tier for mica? Apparently her skills need heavy investment to get lower shot count
No
A
Same as N102 iirc
Her S1 and S2 need investment to lower the hit count
Yes but thats not the reason she is in A
If in the future there is a broken ah unit with stacking
Just the party attack buff did it?
She will rise to a maximum of S
Cleanse
Thats the whole reason
Niche but useful
Oh
Cocoa is C with cleanse
Ok
Cocoa burst isn’t random cleanse
No shit why is Cocoa C
It’s 1 debuff for all allies
Antillar skipped probably or I just forgot
Her s1 is random cleanse
Just forget about it
Yeah…their rank doesn’t matter. I suppose no one will use them outside of niche
Mica is a better n102 I guess
N102+cocoa hybrid
Wait a minute
Mica burst attack buff is 5 seconds while n102 is 10 seconds
now u realize
lol. Is n102 the better attack buffer even tho less %?
Yeah, from a pure ATK standpoint
W.Mica has better utility beyond that but regardless, W.Mica and N102 are placeholders for a future better Nikke from the wishlist
Campaigner? If you pull Liter, instant replace. Probably still replace even if you pulled Dorothy…
Also mica is caster’s attack while n102 is just attack up
Need dispel? Usually this kind of stage has other pressing needs, like if it’s vs Chatterbox, what you really need is to either manual play better, or grow more dps with your squad
If it’s vs Nihilister, power solves all skill issues.. wait 10 sync levelups 
If it’s vs Ultra, I hope you didn’t miss Red Hood banner
Things of that nature… dispel isn’t amazing enough right now
I have cocoa on the bench for when dispel might be helpful
Mica might need attack % OLs lol
Why would she need that?
Her burst attack buff is based on her own attack right?
Yes. Base ATK
Oh. Doesn’t factor in OL attack?
I see. The description didn’t specify base attack
For her, too, it’s Base ATK
Generally, if it doesn’t say Final ATK, assume it’s Base ATK
There are some overlooked points like Basic Attack doesn’t say Final ATK, but it uses Final
They’re more on point with skill descriptions on the other hand… well, more than normal
Case in point, mica’s s1 and s2 BLACK text changes on upgrades
Yeah
If I hadn’t heard that and pulled thinking only 120 shots to proc s1 but it ended up being 200+…that’s big disappointment
Sort of… you can get it if you level the skill 
lol 10/10/10 on a placeholder unit?
Even at 10/10/10, I think it took an entire minute to get 10 stacks of tidying up to trigger the ammo buff. Imagine missing shots or if there’s a delay and the buff drops
Just forget about her, new units come out this thread will be forgotten
If they release a stacks-centric character which has a high stacks ceiling and no way to reach that ceiling naturally, W.MIca might turn meta, I suppose…
Like if the unit can reach 100 stacks, but starts out with just 1 stack for the whole battle or builds it so slowly they only reach 30 stacks or something at the most
Then if it’s potent enough, then Pepper and W.Mica will wake up for this purpose
Until then… it’s cheap to imagine fantasy Nikke skills, but reality is cruel
As good odds of ShiftUp releasing a new Nikke that makes Crow meta
I wouldnt say "as good"
100 stacks = insta delete the enemy lol
crow is not limited . There's a bigger chance they make mica meta to instill fomo fear for next limited units
since people asked for it on rh
It’s all relative… unless we’re all in the mindset of competitive raiding at perfection levels?
Basically 1 copy of W.Mica futureproofs you and 1 copy is at most 200 pulls
Is this the FOMO talking?
Right now for campaign there are two meta squads (without W.Mica) which has the best odds of full clearing Normal and Hard with ease at maximum investment, idle-power-growing aside
well
For Union Raid there are already 3-4 meta squads
if Iw as to pull only for campaign
For Solo Raid, we’re on the verge of having 5 meta squads… but the battles change enough that it’s hard to fully pin down
I would end up having 2000 golden tickets and thousands of gems
this game is too generous for me to worry about pulling a limited unit even if it's not good right now
solo raid is too dependent on the boss
UR is way more flexible
that 3 cookie cutter teams can be made and never changed for a long time
I guess? It’d be for the max ammo, stack, and dispel utilities more than the ATK buff
I already got xmica as well, but the skill mat income atm is very depressing
They’ll fix that but… I worry more about the degree of the fix 
it's definitely going to be rich get richer kind of fix
“You wanted more mats. Here!” - Tier 3 burst mat increases by 1 per week
from what's teased
oh no I am not using mats freely tho either
I did it for xludmi because she's really good
but I have one jk and might get the other at any moment
Are you f2p?
Doesn’t sound like f2p
If that is F2P income, I would agree with the game being generous, but my experience isn’t close to that many pulls
not a single cent and it's rare
Hmm
but they introduced monthly deal way too late and im used to having lots of gems
I am getting 2k gems from pvp , sometimes 2,4 , but I dont think that makes up for how much I end up getting to consider it being the number one factor
Yeah same
Interestingly, Dispel is actually more useful in Union Raid than in Solo Raid.
Like Heavy Metal's accuracy debuff actually tears up DPS quite a bit for characters like Scarlet
And with Union Raid not auto-scaling player level, Mica's DR actually can end up a gamechanger for newer/mid-level players
can someone link me a pinned message here
i can't see them i wanna see if to pull for this girl or not
XMica is most likely for Sim Overclock
PULL HER
Remember that according to datamine there even is COMPANY BAN, WEAPON BAN, etc
thank you onii chan
What the fuck
Honestly tho
She is kinda mid
thanks

miranda iirc as well
If XMica S2 additively stacks with that
liter was smg as ell
Then she will be OP for Sim
For instance, if it says -50% burst gen.
Then maybe XMica still has 350%.
Until element restriction comes
ok i will wait

Im also delaying till patch note
Oh yes I added this to prydwen

I said "if in the future, there is a B3 20s, this might be real"
Rosanna 0 OL, 1/3/1, Mica 1/3/1, troll run 

That's crazy and cool
CHAMPION ARENA?
Don't speak of the impossible
Also, where is this mentioned?
I skimmed the #datamine channel and I didn't even see a shadow of that
about overclock or champ arena?
Whats ocerclock?
Champion arena Ban Anis Jackal Noah
the new sim room mode
@final holly dumb idea: use 1 rocket launcher wherever you can for chatterbox solo raid
it can clear out the qte very fast, even when there are gray circle which seem to have bee coded not to take damage from rocket splash
About Overclock
pinged you
Wait until Challenge LVL then we’ll see. The gray circles might be weaker there 
Ping me too
did you pull her
Yes but no SSR : (
chatterbox already different from the start
Yes

This isn't raid chat
okay 
Hypocrite

Oh snap
He's testing you, stay true and continue ignoring Mica
: (
ehhhh story was another depression bait for the sake of being sad imo, skip
Yeah but the bait turned into actually character development
yea unlike Neon
Can't develop a character who doesn't have a braincell to begin with

Kienix say otherwise
Civil war coming soon 
Is Mica even worth using on the tove team?
Kisenix? The full OL maiden? Ye cant be me
blud is just way ahead of his time

i was thinking, wouldn't mica and novel work good? stack up her cornucopia faster so bypass the need to fire 500 bullets
and get to that damage bonus way faster
it's definitely the most notable thing xmas Mica can stack up that takes a while, aside from Tove's RNG s1, at the current moment
Mica attack buff combined with Novel dmg taken... definitely seems worthwhile for more solo raid comps if you want to maximize damage with all 5 teams
Can Mica make harran keep virus stacks up on adds bosses
Direct upgrade to Cocoa
Let's go dudes
So, getting mica is not a jebait? 
Anne too?
I mean
Yeah she still has alzheimersn't but

its more so it looks like she lets u just shoot in this SR
without worrying about that 10 stack debuff

i need to save for anni banner
He's getting ready for the Blue Archive collab
I used Metaca in SR and she was great. 1/1/1 no OL
Dispel rocked, ATK buff was better than Cocoa’s no ATK buff
cocoa is more defensive with cover repair, not sure if the cover repair is significant enough to make a diff
It wasn’t… with adequate healing, and careful enough sacrifice of the unrepairable cover, can go the full 3 minutes in SR
the problem with midca is
she's a team 5 unit
and when u run your dps from teams 1 thru 4
s. anis ends up on team 5 more often than not
and max ammo + s.anis is booty
That’s why you just rearrange comps until it looks weird but works 
Then again I’m mainly satisfied if I get to and secure top 3%
I’ll leave it to others to post impressive scores

@brittle venture Like you!
So should I still skip, since we might get better team 5 setups in the future?
1 copy is safe, it’s basically protection against being sabotaged by a gimmick
W.Mica is a dispel on burst Nikke and a bunch of more useful utilities than Cocoa
If you’re bold or don’t care, skip
It can take you anywhere between 10 to 200 pulls to get W.Mica
If it’s 10 pull, grats
I have like 80 pulls rn
And nearly 1000 mileage
The problem is you won’t be using her, probably
At least mica isn't as limit/core hungry as xludmilla
Like 99% of the time you do content in Nikke, W.Mica won’t show up
Even if W.Mica synergies well with some other Nikke in the future, you’ve still got bunnies and schoolgirls
So up to what your priorities are
I'll wait for NY
Who knows if there's a Pilgrim
Yeah you can decide on last day of W.Mica banner
As for solo raid, I think 3.1 billion is more than enough for 3%
Maybe even 1%
yeah, i wouldn't consider mica necessary.
there aren't any dps that rely on stacks who work well with her. one could be diesel, but she's not a DPS at all 
but winter Mica is one method to get an infinite mag diesel
no reload required
Mica's not bad but what she gives just isn't appreciated for current content
the debuff removal vs nihilister is great. unsure if she can remove the def shred debuff from chatterbox rockets, but either way, that'd be considered niche
Unless they release bleeding edge difficulty battles, any 5 well put together non-trash Nikkes with enough investment will win - as long as “power” deficit / enemy levels don’t artificially suppress them
So… the ultimate problem right now is investing in those 5 is too painful with skill mats, rocks, and gear fodder
Who here has a maxed out Julia?
10/10/10, with OL gears x4? And rerolled for ATK?
Probably countable on one hand, and maybe no more than one or two fingers 
ya, as it stands, there's not enough reason to maximize so many nikkes instead of the most consistent ones
resources come too slow
OL gear is permanent, so you have to make sure it's not wasted on a nikke you won't end up using
and skill resets aren't a default, so if you end up spending manuals on a nikke you end up not using, well, shit, rip your manuals for a long while
I'm currently sitting in 57th having used both Mica and Cocoa in Teams 4 and 5, respectively
so both are definitely perfectly usable 
Removing Cocoa for a more carefully played team will definitely yield higher scores tho
What’s 57th, did the wave reach 5b+ yet?
Nope
Probably will be in a few days
Chatterbox insta-kill debuff is sigificantly more difficult to maneuver for casual players (since you can't just powerheal your way through the fight)
I'm at a measly 3.9 bil cuz I always do a no-reset run on Day 1
99% of pullers stop pulling just before hitting 10/10 pilgrim pulls on their next 10pull
Meanwhile I get 1 Pilgrim per year and it's either Noah or Isabel 
just for my information, does the dispel debuff of Mica or Cocoa are removing totally the debuff even with stacks from CB?
It does.
I wonder who the other person is...
ok thanks
We can expect to have more often boss with strong debuff so these type of units will be usefull.
At least Cocoa exists so no need to push for Mica to play this role
Well the debuff cleanse works differently between the two. If you can make 3 burst rotations before a debuff kills you then it doesn't matter which you use. If you have to cleanse all the debuffs in 1 rotation, only XMica will do that.
Maybe there is a subtlety I don't get between both, why do we have to wait 3 burst rotations with Cocoa.
If I compare both burst it seems that Cocoa can cleanse at 1st rotation.
I don't have her to test though
My fault, I mix up Cocoa's S1 and Burst text. I have her and have used her before.
Yea that's what some kept saying. That we also have cocoa burst that's the same thing with the dispell debuff
i love miga snow friend
Nvm, first 10 lol
Now I'm tempted to build Diesel for infinite ammo
You can still eat a strawberry candy in honor of her
I was joking about a Halloween Diesel alt
All we got was a free skin
We’re missing a Nikke with wings, do we have one?
Isabel slander
Oh, she exists 
Inb4 diesel gets a burst cdr buff added to her skill 2
the only nikke can fly
hard to decide roll xmica or not, has potential be important depending on content or new nikke
I just posted that and evaluated her tier to be overall C, and only specifically against Solo Raid Chatterbox is she tier S. And that N102 benches her otherwise.
But in the next 1-6 months, we have no clue at all if some new Nikke will jump up and turn Winter Mica into SSS tier duo…
I think ShiftUp is doing that on purpose
For a while now if not straight from the beginning
They design kits with potential for future synergy but leave us hanging
(It’s the same overall tier Prydwen has for Cocoa, btw)
holy maincord thread is ded ded
They don’t have official threads for it 
I will definitely use Mica with Novel in the future for stack shenanigans, but no resources

all manuals going to Ludmilla rn
i am glad the first part of Mica's burst was given for free for completing part 2 tho
it's very cute and unique
the finale with pixel mica and ludmilla clapping is very nice tho
Then get them made
Research lab was about to get deleted
And then I decided to takeover and revive it

It promotes healthy discussion here but maincord is very...
Weird sometimes so idk how well it'll fare there
This would be awesome except...no CDR
oh, you're right. 😔 didn't even consider
when will we get burst 3 CDR

hmm, i could also see using summer helm with it, who I already have.
summer Helm's burst is not that important
even vs electric bosses
there's also dolla, whose burst is also not that important, but a waste of a potential burst 3
hmm, oh well. as usual, more stuff for the future

Yeah, vs Electric Bosses, X Mica will actually be a decent pick when used with S Helm
In general, I see X Mica being more useful in Union Raid than Solo Raid
Not great
Better than other SMGs, at least 
very true
Considering I still see people with Liter, Dorothy, and Volume in their arena teams, Mica arguably has a reason for use 
ya. Honestly, I'm just glad Mica is usable. it's just not too obvious yet, especially without a huge dps that relies on stacks
there's harran and epinel, but they can't even get a single stack vs bosses that are completely solo

vs bosses like mother whale, mica can prevent their stacks from going away by constantly firing, better than pepper since it necessitates using burst to get stacks up
I was also thinking, how much could 2B survive with her fat HP stat and the dmg reduction from Mica
especially vs bosses that target high atk nikkes, which 2B tends to attract because of her atk scaling from HP
that's just a meme though
I thought it was obvious she was usable from the start. It's only people who have every Nikke already and forget that a lot of people, especially new players, don't, that consider her not usable
She's easily in the top ten of around 25 B1s
Is she gamebreaking? Definitely not. Is she worth the heavy investment she requires to function at full? Also not
but when we have Volume, whose skills are considered pointless to level for the most part cuz we only use her for the CDR, Mica, who has actually useful skills, is definitely not bad. She just doesn't fit into the current meta
yeah 😔
I kinda think like them, even though I don't really have a right to
I've only spent like $700 on this game over the year

Conservative. 
I keep my alt at minnow standards, so that gives me more insight on the suffering of the F2P and new players

My main account has four digits USD loaded into it, so that one isn't comparable
yeah, i feel like I've swiped a relatively healthy amount, $700 over 12 months, not too much, definitely not too little.

Also she
Might be over that for me
Star Rail, Guardian Tales, this game...

su, imagine smol fish dont want to spend to roll cause no resources to level skill and hard to gear 
oh i mean, if i take into account all my gacha
AK, a little bit for Neural Cloud, a little bit for star rail
I'd say it's like $900
still not that much
i mean, yeah, considering most gacha players are f2p, it's definitely a lot compared to the average spender (consider all players vs revenue, it's like below a hundred per capita)

but trust me, $700 over the year in nikke alone is nowhere close to top whale territory.
she has use case for team 5 in being a max ammo support for guillo or scarlet
Several use cases, all pinned here
Oops, didn't add the max ammo buff part 
She's fine overall
Especially if you lack the meta
There's not a lot of B1 atk buffers
Its early game
still
Volume is bad
Like
You can get away with N102
More than Volume
You just need atk buff and wait
CDR isnt really necessary for all stages so
Also Snake is who has more authority over a large part of the tier list
I dont really give tiers for XMica
It's extremely neccessary if you have
less than meta Nikkes, which will lead to longer clearing times
In which, if you're forced to use volume
more likely than not
you're also not having scarlet, modernia, red hood, and the sorts
doesn't snake suck at campaign
Just wait a month mayn
I wanted to put her = n102
For story (early)
Cuz imo she's equally useful to a newer player as n102, if not slightly better
I kinda just wanna indicate to new players that use her over exia if you have both. That's about it.
Story (early) will always be warped in some sense, I'll just have to explain it later on
The reason story early was seperate was to allow me to give worse than meta higher ratings, so that if a new player happens to see the TL, he'll use them
explain it in
over 10k words?
Nah I'd put them same tier
same tier sure, but i'd still use n102
Idk
I'll think about it
Gross.
I have some ideas in mind on how to change the tierlist but idk if they'll be accepted 
So I'll brainstorm later 
Yes
Anyways
Go wild go stupid

Just put some unique cleanse use cuz unlike cocoa she actually has burst gen
in pvp?
The rest is just additional support in buffing cuz no other point of her skill can be reached really
i mean. i'd assume
Yes
the atk buff is where
it's actually useful
she
without gimping burst gen too hard
So do I pull for mica?
Nah if you read it (
)
I'm just trying to cover more counters here 
Maybe in hindsight it wasn't the best of examples that I'm trying to counter blanc's buff, but it's just that only the cleanse is whats making her unique
Otherwise for buffing, you should rather use other nikkes
If you're an older player
Nah
sounds
impractical
What do you mean older?
It's situational yeah but it's the only use I found for her
Like over 30?
sounds impractical
if you have most of the meta nikkes already, skip her probably
you make it sound like it's easily controlled variable
by saying it's situational

I see
Well, in attack
You get to control it cuz you're in charge of what your team's burst gen is.
So in attack it is controllable to a degree
You don't think they will make cleanse really powerful in the future?
not unless they make a permanent 80% ATK debuff or something

otherwise it's been pretty gay
like snake
Cocoa was pretty strong in sr
being in team 5
does not make her strong
it is
last resort
besides, there's some JP fucks somehow iframing literally everything
rockets and red beams
i kneel
Nah well for buffing she's ass
I'd rather use liter
But the cleanse, I think I might find use for 
Off the top of my head I have
Noah Mica biscuit redhood X
X = burst gen slot
And you can run a 0.5rl slower team and win cuz opponent scarlet not killin anyone
(only at high sync levels tho)
Anyways
She's trash
Don't pull
Save for ny
















