[Ludmilla: Winter Owner] New Unit Megathread

[jovial fog]

Ludmilla went hard into spook bro

[agile jackal]

thanks bug

is the boss too easy or Ludmilla just that good?

[steady bison]

Was blue power gaming, don’t pay it any attention

But yes too good also

Weak to element

Just realized this now (I didn’t pay attention to that lol)

No wonder I was shocked

I have 69% element dmg on her

(No I didn’t try for that number, it was just rng…)

[agile jackal]

Gonna try that, but in 3 years

[steady bison]

My Elysion and Missilis are only 650-680k power

And I forgot my Tetra was much higher

[jovial fog]

You should be able to reach this tower with 650k as well tho

Considering it's only

20% CP deficit

Less than that actually

[steady bison]

Yes, my Elysion barely made it at 650k

They’re 2 floors behind Tetra

[flint reef]

That's insane power congrats

[jovial fog]

I tried going to ch15H with lvl271

But I guess Alice bug isn't that big of a miracle worker

[agile jackal]

Yeah
Alice bug advantage only for sub boss or boss i guess
Not that much if you can't reach it

[jovial fog]

14-3 had me using it for first burst

Bad to line up a bunch of raptures for it

Also Had to iframe with Tia for survival that stage

💀

[agile jackal]

Better to clear that mobs first and save Alice for last

Man... Tia Naga perhaps better than bunnies for campaign, but it's hard to use

[jovial fog]

Nah it was the only way I could progress

I couldn't clear out ads cuz my scarlet wasn't killing mobs even with
Rh+Tia and full stacks

Had to wait for the last 10 seconds to get to burst with alice

Again

[agile jackal]

Isn't Scarlet better with Bunnies instead? Because Tia+Naga better with someone who burst directly attack core

[jovial fog]

I was running
Tia Naga Rh modernia flex

Flex was alice

Anyways this is probably not a good convo for #1181779382956724224

[agile jackal]

right

Is Ludmilla supposed to be 10/10/10 ?

[jovial fog]

10/5/10 is good enuf I think

S2 seems trash to me

[remote inlet]

Why 5

May as well say 10/4/10

[agile jackal]

Maybe because leveling to 5 isn't that much resource

and skill 2 isn't that bad with that crit buff

[remote inlet]

U already use rare material going for 5

Mf decide to use rare resource but then stop at 5

[agile jackal]

leveling to 5 well, only need 42 skill manual I
But to 6, it need 126
Talking about triple increase

So to 5 seems not that much

[remote inlet]

It cost 60 manual II

[agile jackal]

i found skill manual II rather cheap than I, because i never have that empty

[agile jackal]

in fact, i'm not buy that in event shop yet. But skill manual I already did

I desperately need blue item the most, and yellow

[remote inlet]

Then u dont want to lv5 neither cuz its not cheap for u

[remote terrace]

Burst is either 10 or not at all

If ure not planning to fully invest, Id go 7

Or better yet, get Bastion and more max ammo.

There's still DPS loss.

But if you can manage like 3 reloads per game only, that would be 4.5 secs + 66 frames wasted + windup.

Unmaxed Burst will cost the same amount of downtime.

Because with Resilience, you need to reload 12 times (13 rotations)!

The minimum per reload is 22 frames is 0.367s, with no downtime, so that's 4.4s wasted.

[agile jackal]

Because she is meta, i planning to fully invest it

[remote terrace]

I dont have enough burst manuals to do that just yet

Overinvested in Tove

Before her meta even arrives

And I invested in Pascal

3/3/3

Super gay

Btw, the formula for reload below 100%:

22 frames + Visible Reload Time

[agile jackal]

Hmm i guess you're right
With new year is near, Burst lv7 is enough
Her use only on SR and UR for me

[remote terrace]

Hell even Bastion 5 might work

You LOSE a lot of dps

But as long as u dont lose 300 gems its fine, no?

[hazy hull]

Which team deal more damage btw? tiga with RH and MW or tiga with RH and xLud? Assuming optimal condition and proper investment

[agile jackal]

My bastion is lv 7, i guess it's gonna fine if i have 3-4 line Max ammo

[twilit flame]

honestly high burst level is only justified if you want the convenience of cooking unconventional teams with her like sky did with diesel/tove or if you plan to use her in t4-5.
between t1-t3 supports and atk/ammo lines, there’s a lot of diminishing returns

with how much promising dps she has and the upcoming water weak boss, I think high chance she’s gonna be used in t1/2

[remote terrace]

No

No diminishing return

Burst level 10 is higher than everything else

And much higher

15% dps boost++

In her best team too

It's actually increasing return

Per level

Level 5: 80.09% => 0.5973s reload
Level 6: 83.45% => 0.4965s reload
Level 7: 86.81% => 0.3857s reload
Level 10: 96.89% => 0.09s reload

Add 22 frames.
Minimum ammo * 1.5 / 60 should be around 16-18s.
Ideally 3-4 max ammo since you don't want to burst with her first!
Otherwise, you waste 1 RH burst.```

[jovial fog]

i like 5

4 is mid

[full sequoia]

it's joever bros

[jovial fog]

King is active in maincord now?

He got banned from here iirc

[full sequoia]

bruh

[remote inlet]

All the best people banned from coomcord

And we only have this clown

[remote terrace]

No

Hes talking about the length

He's gay remember?

[remote inlet]

Ye go by the name Choked🐍

[jovial fog]

That was your nickname

Mf

Skill prio
S1 = B > S2

10/4/10 is ideal

[jovial fog]

What else
This shit is solved now

[gritty yew]

low spends should aim for 2lb

not mlb

[agile jackal]

I aim for her rerun if about dupe
Got shafted only 2 SSR (one copy of Lud) in 140x pull
Worst luck since 2B (i use ticket for her)

[full sequoia]

I want to get Midca for collection purpose first

and then there's new years

[agile jackal]

Well, for Mica you still have a chance next year

but idk about XRupee and XN102, i hope they got a rerun again. Missing XRupee

[full sequoia]

I have the two

Don't care about dupes tbh

Anne is for PvP and I fucking hate that place

[jovial fog]

And miss out on mommy's wallpaper?
I disagree

2lb is coach way of thinking

Not mine

[gritty yew]

inb4 they spend

100$ going for that 3rd limit break

[jovial fog]

Ok I never write should aim for mlb

I understand the confusion

Lemme fix

[steep dragon]

you rite fix that to MCB or brick

[jovial fog]

I'm pretty sure they already bricked when they see her bro, c7 or not

[steep dragon]

[remote inlet]

U dont argue w snake

[obsidian kettle]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1002341687139500132/1003777404344467526/image0-9-1.gif

[remote inlet]

He likes to up skill to lv5…just because he like it
He likes to mlb…just because this is “jiggle game”

[jovial fog]

I mileaged Sneon after spending 90 pulls on her

[gritty yew]

i used to get skills to 5

cuz i liked 1 5 or 10

now i have to get 1 4 7 or 10

[jovial fog]

Yeah, same

I like 1 5 or 10

Or 7

7 is nice

[steep dragon]

I like 10 but I ain't whaling on skill packs

[gritty yew]

i actually got so much 10s

cost so much

[remote inlet]

Skillbook is the best investment for progress from cashshop

Those pay along the way

Till you reach stable point u dont need to buy, just kill the less usage ones over cycle

[steep dragon]

give me $100 usd for each pack and I'll do it

[remote inlet]

…and its not a recommendation for everyone, not financial advise do not sue me to sec

[small nexus]

Jessica from Chicago

[fathom charm]

nuked

[opaque burrow]

Funny, i was aiming for 2LB and got 2 XLud in a roll (at that time XLud was already 1*)

like that game is telling me to MLB her

[shut vector]

Is Xlud worth redeeming? Or do I save it for the NY banner?

Don’t feel like using my stash esp when potentially crown or chime might show up

[twilit flame]

she's limited and the first good water selfish dps, but if you're not in a competitive union and don't care about solo raid, guess you can skip.

[bright hill]

She'd still be a top pick for Tribe Tower if you're hyper casual ig.

[twilit flame]

well I tried using her for tetra tower and got blasted

but to be fair it was a stage that needs a fast clear of the mobs and xlud isn't good at that

[wide dawn]

imho story tiers on prydwen is so wrong

how the hell sw and xlud is the same tier as drake power or even smoll white on late story

aint no way

[twilit flame]

that's kinda the weakness of using letters

instead of numbers

for tiering

[full sequoia]

Be like GBF

[wide dawn]

aint no way harran is SS on late story but xlud is S

[full sequoia]

4.9 for top

[wide dawn]

they just need to drop a lo of them to A or something and get some of them to SS

but compared to it their boss tiers are perfect

its such a big jump in quality

[plain rain]

nikke.gg clears

even though 2B and SW on the same bossing tier hurts me

[vagrant blaze]

anyone try diesel + lud yet?

[plain rain]

here although I didn't watch the video

[wide dawn]

tbh sw sould be in the 4-5th team category if she didn't just picked up trash and made them useful

[teal kelp]

https://youtu.be/ZU7LNpxRCgw?si=d7J0eTWYj4A2JPPP

[white sinew]

Need xmica

[fathom charm]

Xmica no longer badge

[jovial fog]

https://www.prydwen.gg/nikke/guides/ludmilla-winter-guide

[small nexus]

https://www.ddinstagram.com/reel/CzJkjYjO-No/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

[graceful cape]

can she help me pass 15-18?

[remote inlet]

U need scarlet/Modernia together w xludmilla for that

Prefer perma b1 RH to clear with ease

[severe schooner]

Tia Naga RH Scarlet XLudmilla?

[remote inlet]

right

[wide dawn]

this too

[severe schooner]

I don't have SW

[wide dawn]

check momoland's clips

he does this insane comps

[remote inlet]

15-18 wave
1.Rapture wave + 2 sniper elites
2. Rapture wave (with buffer rapture)
how to deal with 1, need to take down 2 sniper elites asap, Scarlet screen clear for safe environment, Xludmilla dps elites (scar burst)
how to deal with 2, just burst with xLudmilla or Scar+Lud guns are good enough, keep the buffer alive
Delay 20s
Go in boss, Scar burst again, winning

[wide dawn]

I can't believe I'm getting walled by a shitty def stage

[remote inlet]

use your a2

[wide dawn]

[remote inlet]

https://tenor.com/view/worship-cultofthelamb-praise-gif-26454363

[wide dawn]

she

4-4-4 aint enough

[remote inlet]

u really use SW for most campaign stage?

[wide dawn]

I do but that ss was abit misleading

I swapped her out for liter because I needed more bursts

[remote inlet]

im trying to see how long is this battle

i think its 1 minute

[wide dawn]

she got me here

but she gets stuck on def stages so hard

and in some captures

[remote inlet]

oh def battle is 1:30m

[wide dawn]

yeah

longer fights is

[remote inlet]

need a mod here

[wide dawn]

if I had one

[remote inlet]

u have no mod, blue cp gaming it is

[flint reef]

Ludmilla needs good investment cannot clear fast the circle of BS at 4/4/4 (no burst), will put back Modernia

She should be with burst will test

I will upgrade though later when possible have to finish RH

[remote inlet]

can u test

Tia burst

[flint reef]

I will

[remote inlet]

can block if fail circle

[flint reef]

Tia/RH/Naga

[remote inlet]

ye assume u fail the circle

then u have tia burst

[flint reef]

That's the team

testing now

[remote inlet]

omg this guy using perma Rh in BS SI

chad mentality

[flint reef]

will delay burst and tell you

[wide dawn]

thats my bs team too

the rh b1 is so broken ong I feel like I do 0 dmg with other b1's

[remote inlet]

yoo @wide dawn @flint reef try this comp on full auto

Tia-Naga-Rh-MW-Xludmilla

[wide dawn]

my mw is 7-1-1 rn

[remote inlet]

thats good enough

[wide dawn]

probably can't 1 shot

really

btw my rh is 2 ol

[remote inlet]

ye try lol

[wide dawn]

with no att

trying brb

[flint reef]

no MW

[remote inlet]

[flint reef]

on wishlist though 😁

[remote inlet]

actyually

try with privaty instead of mw

[wide dawn]

na they couldn't full auto

[remote inlet]

ic

[wide dawn]

wait

what

nvm

they did

[remote inlet]

[wide dawn]

but rock rng is real

if you don't get enough rocks by chance

tia dies

[remote inlet]

as long as its stable

could do this for both bs and chatterbox

no more control needed

[wide dawn]

actually its more consistent with xlud instead of mw

because my mw burst is 1

[remote inlet]

wait so

u actually use 2 bursts?

[wide dawn]

7-7-7 rh btw

yes

they do

[remote inlet]

oh ok ok so this is 2 burst clear

[wide dawn]

right after the rh burst endss

[remote inlet]

pretty good for this acc

[wide dawn]

my goal is 1 shot with sw

on every si

I got gd this rotation

this gd

[remote inlet]

ye i mean with your current investment

one shot GD is huge already

[wide dawn]

if I control its a 35 sec clear

if I auto its 60+

hmm

[remote inlet]

this is a 1-2 burst auto GD

i dont try to one shot it

[wide dawn]

I need to fail qte for a good lineup on sw

with auto I don't think its doable for me, and I lack doro which is a huge dmg

[remote inlet]

ye for when he about to charge u, thats the one shot setup

[flint reef]

Cleared but bringed A2 for better burst gen and she helped with circles

[remote inlet]

one burst xludmilla run on BS auto i think anis into MW will be actually 1 burst clean

[wide dawn]

full auto ?

[flint reef]

no controlling Lud

you want the same test in auto?

[wide dawn]

I mean he said auto

[flint reef]

ah ok didn't pay attention

ok will do it

[remote inlet]

ye ye auto, we are in auto gaming era now

https://tenor.com/view/cute-cultofthelamb-adorable-gif-26454355

Bs got blasted into oblivion, lost his body

[flint reef]

failed in auto during red circles they are not aiming them at all anyway

[remote inlet]

which mean your Tia fail to burst during that

only Tia can clutch that part

Tia shield block like 1.2 milly dps here

[wide dawn]

ok I got the strat

if gd doesn't jump sides

it fails

sw works too

[remote inlet]

try to put SW

in P1

and pierce both his main core and gun

[wide dawn]

do I want him jump to sw side or not

[remote inlet]

this double MG on auto works too, using n102 to estimate lower investment clear speed

[remote inlet]

he should jump to the other side

so u can line up the shot

but u are using xludmilla

so lots of her dps is gone since u are aiming SW

[wide dawn]

I'm trying the mw now

aim ?

that was auto

[remote inlet]

[flint reef]

Team able to clear it in auto with Ludmila 4/4/4 no OL gears

[wide dawn]

btw for a 3 hit sw burst

[wide dawn]

where do I aim

[remote inlet]

i forgot but its feel too much rng and not stable , many other options better

[remote inlet]

your A2 has ol?

[wide dawn]

also the fucker refuses to jump across sw

[remote inlet]

ye this is also the unstable part

like u can just let Mod/Xlud auto into his gun

[flint reef]

yes my favorite campaign unit

[remote inlet]

no point trying to one shot and roll the dice

[wide dawn]

I'm ok with doing once

I just want the 1 shot

I SWAPPED SW SIDE AND HE FOUND THE SW ANYWAYS

AA

I give up for now

[flint reef]

I am going back to manual world to clear BS what I prefer 😁

[remote inlet]

mine can one shot by just auto into the gun, but its a bit rng

[wide dawn]

whats your ol's

[remote inlet]

but i have this too

its kinda low comparing to the whales they have like 150-250 lv on this

[remote inlet]

those OL look like a long way to go

[wide dawn]

yeah

tbh

ele dmg doesn't matter on this boss

[remote inlet]

ye

[wide dawn]

I have more att ols

is it just my rh b7 and mw s1-7

thats not letting me 1 shot

and jk's too

only xlud s1 and sw b is 10

[remote inlet]

even if they have all max required skills

its still RNG to one shot the gun

so i think u force to double pierce

which is harder

[wide dawn]

can't 1 shot cb too

[remote inlet]

maybe doable after these 2 go up

[wide dawn]

you know what funny

the auto broke it aint autoing anymore

thats rng too I guess

[flint reef]

tired to not getting manufacturer gear it should be 100% guaranted one of them (module or gear) when you clear SI

Raised on that on the survey will see if they will improve things in 2024

[wide dawn]

the gear and the rock should be 2 different drops

they shouldn't contest eachother

[flint reef]

if so they need to add another mode

In any case clearly we don't get enough ressources compared to the rates of units released

[wide dawn]

like 85% on the manu gear box and 75% on rock box

that just has rock in it

[wide dawn]

we shouldn't I guess

because its a gacha

they need to bottleneck from somewhere

and the units are not the bottleneck ong

[flint reef]

I know well the mechanism of gacha games

[remote inlet]

Or just save boxes

[flint reef]

but they should balance better the amount of rewards

[wide dawn]

imho the problem is rocks and gear contesting that 1 spot

and skill books

imho skill books shouldn't be a bottleneck that hard

[flint reef]

skills are the worst

[wide dawn]

you want flashy numbers and skills for your game

gear is behind the char screen but you see skills

if a skill does 0 dmg on screen it feels bad

[dire oracle]

[wide dawn]

maybe bottleneck the lvl10

and make it easier to get 9

[flint reef]

The selective manufactuer gear box is also a good idea

[wide dawn]

thats behind a paywall

they might want to keep it

[flint reef]

They need defintely to work on it smartly in order to not make players bored becasue the curve of progression is too low

I know that they are working on Simulation 2.0 so wait and see

Many units are released but you cannot test them correctly and you cannot build teams setup easily to have fun

They should not forget the fun aspect to build and test different teams

[exotic stag]

today first try blacksmith > roll roll > try again blacksmith
(ATK+ele dmg)

And this is not even her final form

Totally worth it to get one

It feels you have 2 modernia

[remote inlet]

final form 👁️

[exotic stag]

4 atk 4 ele dmg?

15sec nice

[remote inlet]

no only 2 ammo, 1.5 ele, 1 atk

not require big OL investment to perform well

[remote inlet]

@white sinew

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/946719897390563328/1175331995706982472/20f2d0846de9c31b6d57180754c1de7151355ac6e7c086089da67b2e1a0b2c96.gif?ex=656ad838&is=65586338&hm=51dee99c0cf0c8a7925ebb2a325eee438f26cdaf3444410f838e4a693a961c42&

[opaque burrow]

About XLud max ammo, how many % are we talking about? 50%?

assuming peak level burst and bastion

[twilit flame]

whatever you get, it is what it is

can’t really force the game to give you the number you want

[opaque burrow]

i mean there are reroll you know

[kind sail]

two 60% max ammo rolls would be minimum based off the guides

or 3 max ammo rolls for comfort

[opaque burrow]

so 120% minimum

[remote terrace]

Nah

Its cutting too close

125% for me and not enough

Better 3

[opaque burrow]

so 150%?

[kind sail]

basically if you don't get 2 max ammo on first OL rolls, try for 120%+ max ammo

minimum

[soft dock]

https://youtu.be/33TbJSL7WIA?si=mfPRGcNM84D9wXWa

Just a funny video

[shut vector]

A bit belated but thanks!!

[white sinew]

using 2x mg when I don't even had that choice pre xmas

Also that music buff is cheating

[remote inlet]

GG NUUB

[jovial fog]

When I play music my FPS goes from 59 to 57

[white sinew]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/968098119717904433/1178102394295439501/1172702969364480080.gif?ex=6574ec5a&is=6562775a&hm=609c441b5c22bea2b1140116408d8190bac9da3d5c811d79a657b28128d93524&

Stoooopid momo

[wide dawn]

@remote inlet just a bit more

[remote inlet]

[wide dawn]

not the elysion tower day

[remote inlet]

@wide dawn

is that a core hit

his head

[wide dawn]

should be

at least the part was almost broken

[remote inlet]

did u try with mw instead of xlud

[wide dawn]

I spread the xlud debuff on 3 parts probably 2 of them sticked

[remote inlet]

i didnt think about that

[wide dawn]

but it might not be core dmg

the number is not core dmg color

you get the core after breaking it

was it always like that

or is that the new change

[remote inlet]

so its not naga

if u cant hit core

use Blanc

[wide dawn]

if I had one

[remote inlet]

oh u dont

[wide dawn]

do I spark xanne

for this

[remote inlet]

just pull

[wide dawn]

[remote inlet]

https://tenor.com/view/pull-gacha-mobile-game-kermit-gif-8751144

[wide dawn]

I can't pull like that

I'm f2p

I have no rights

[remote inlet]

look for a sugar mama

https://tenor.com/view/tom-and-jerry-jerry-licking-licking-cookie-gif-24601260

@jovial fog teach him how to find one

[wide dawn]

do you want to be mine

[remote inlet]

[jovial fog]

No

I'm also controlling my urges rn

To spark her

[wide dawn]

I'll throw a multi on mica

maybe she comes from that banner

[remote inlet]

pulling midca

tskkk tskk

[wide dawn]

I got tove on 1 multi too

I'm lucky with mid units

[remote inlet]

but xanne wont do big for your 1 shot anymore

cuz she has same buff with RH/MW

[jovial fog]

xAnne is worse than blanc anyways

[remote inlet]

its either core buff from naga or Damage taken from Blanc

[wide dawn]

can't spark blanc tho

[jovial fog]

In blacksmith case
Worse than Naga too

Try yulha over maxwell

[wide dawn]

yulha is in wishlist

[remote inlet]

dont let the biscuit guy hear this

[jovial fog]

Give up

[remote inlet]

thats gay strat

[wide dawn]

I'll just roll better ol's

[steady bison]

Was probably always like that - His “head” you could say is a helmet. Destroy it, or pierce it, and you hit his real head for core damage. The downside? He goes crazy and wipes your squad unless you’re already OP

[wide dawn]

I remember the head being core dmg

[steady bison]

So everybody in the know tends to avoid touching his head

[jovial fog]

You can also try smthng I do personally

[wide dawn]

it might be mandela effect tho

[remote inlet]

fking virgin tactics

gae

[jovial fog]

Since you're running Tiga, you can just tank a bit of cover damage

Get to ×7 or ×6.5 bars remaining without burst
And then burst

[wide dawn]

I mean I still clear it

with xlud dps

but thats not 1 shot

[brisk thicket]

I will get Elysion molds today.

And roll Rapi.

[wide dawn]

blessed shop ong

iron books

need more

everything is iron in this game ong

[brisk thicket]

I feel you, dude.

At least Milk is water :)

I got iDoll Ocean from Elysimold.

Wow.

[wide dawn]

same power level with most ely units

[vagrant blaze]

110 pulls still no lud

[flint reef]

Ludmilla still at 4/4/4 no ol gears vs CB, not bad. I will invest on her as soon I finish RH. Alice and Scarlet will wait

[remote inlet]

@wide dawn i also 1 shot

[wide dawn]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1181779382956724224/1183867780303421501/image.png?ex=6589e5ca&is=657770ca&hm=359c21fe020d93bf8ccad3ed81571814b81282acad85ee1e730426f63b70902a&

I mean

its 2 second

[remote inlet]

let me show u the dorothy tech

[wide dawn]

doro would nuke shit out of the cb

[flint reef]

4 ol gears with good rerolls?

[remote inlet]

no only 1.5 ele , 2 ammo, 1 atk

[remote inlet]

ok i lied there is not such thing i thought the part damage buff will help SW

[flint reef]

She will shine during Raid

[wide dawn]

wouldn't doro burst do the remaining dmg

also does anyone has old cb recordings

I swear the head was part dmg

without the pierce

[remote inlet]

those ols are alright like 4/10 comparing to other godtier rolls

[flint reef]

still no doro, no SW, no MW here

[wide dawn]

nah I lied

found a yt vid

[wide dawn]

thats the true 1 shot

what a sight

[remote inlet]

ye i believe SW pierce the head into CB core

[wide dawn]

can you line the core and shoulders at the same time tho

it feels not doable ngl

[remote inlet]

let me record it, i let it on auto

[wide dawn]

you can't see the core dmg if you 1 shot btw

try on maxwell or something

[remote inlet]

oh ye lol

w MW it only pierce the part

oh it hit the head too

but not like core hit

[remote inlet]

ye this is wrong, no core hit

[white sinew]

so cb dont have core when mw sw used

[remote inlet]

he has a core but its not exposed till the head destroyed

[white sinew]

???

so only works after core down

[wide dawn]

when you break the "core"

the core works

yeah

[remote inlet]

his head is counted as PART

[wide dawn]

so I assume we will be able to break cb's head

[remote inlet]

it has a core inside, but u cant hit it

[wide dawn]

without any drawback

[white sinew]

on what content now ?

[wide dawn]

in sr

because its a xlud sr

if we ever get it back

[white sinew]

xmas cuck keeps on changing every year

first we get jihad rupee

[remote inlet]

guys like Hurrdurr hope the SR never comes so mf can abuse the bug forever

[white sinew]

now sr gone

[white sinew]

???wtf

[remote inlet]

dont lie mf

[white sinew]

i am already pass everything

only need some help on boss

didnt get very far

[valid chasm]

Bangin’ @white sinew

[soft dock]

did someone say banging?

[valid chasm]

[white sinew]

[valid chasm]

fck this I'mma run

[white sinew]

You ain't

[valid chasm]

aaaaaaaaaaaa

[river pelican]

So what's the final word? Reload or Bastion?

[jovial fog]

Low invest prolly basti
High invest resil

Bunny team is basti

Out of bunny is resil

[river pelican]

I have 180% max ammo, guess I have a choice of regelating her to outside of bunnies then

[white sinew]

Bitch they ask for 1+1=? You just told them e=mc^2

Core 7 yet @jovial fog

[valid chasm]

[river pelican]

it's he

[jovial fog]

Mf have you ever seen my acc

Part from Alice all my DPS are lb0

[remote inlet]

saying a nikke need a bastion or resilience strictly feel like not effective

it all depends on the map/mode

campaign: both cubes give xlumilla/modernia (call them XM) different reload time and if it falls right during the breaktime, its good
boss: yes u can shoot infinitely with bastion, but whats about when u force to take cover or the boss dissapear for long time or situation when u force to reload, then it depends too

[white sinew]

I meant that in general

[jovial fog]

I am confident bubba was asking for bosses only

[river pelican]

campaign pushing is a meme tbh

[remote inlet]

and i mentioned boss too

those runs in SI i set up for auto, they are not strictly any cube

[jovial fog]

In bossing
You would rather resil if you have high burst level
Because that way you get to have 0.09s reload time and with that you can always keep shooting without mg ramp time going dead

With bastion and bunnies you can easily just keep shooting

For low investments, bastion and noir is simply enough to keep shooting for 3 minutes

[remote inlet]

im highly doubt the "keep shooting" part will be that easy like in the union range

[jovial fog]

Try it yourself

[remote inlet]

try where?

[white sinew]

[remote inlet]

i dont disagree with the ability of Xlud keep shooting

[white sinew]

Shotting 3m is doable in sr ur

[remote inlet]

i disagree with the practical case for it

[jovial fog]

Practical case is for raids//bossing

[remote inlet]

and im waiting to see if u can really pull it off during SR

[jovial fog]

Cuz you don't always have to cover
In MG teams like bunnies especially

You barely cover
Even on ultra you just tank through it all

[remote inlet]

remain skeptical

[jovial fog]

It's not skepticism bruh it's just experience

[kind sail]

haven't been ppl been doing infinite ammo lud for days now?

[remote inlet]

we all saw it

[river pelican]

I still don't know what is the sweet spot for reload speed once you have like 180% ammo

[jovial fog]

2 max ammo is sweet spot.
180 is pure comfort

You can choose either bastion or resilience without worry

[river pelican]

yeah I have 180, but I wonder if resil+burst is enough to not worry about spinning up MG again forever

[jovial fog]

It is
Check in union shooting range if u want to test

[kind sail]

res + high enough burst is like comically fast reload

it's easy

[jovial fog]

At the end of your 20s reload time
You can reload and keep shooting

[river pelican]

tested, doesn't have to spin

but there is still a lag, but maybe because my burst is lvl 7 + resil lvl 6

[kind sail]

should be fine when you get res lvl 7

missing like 7% reload spd alone from that

got ele on 3rd line and atk on another 3rd line but no ammo

the rock farming begins

[opaque burrow]

Damn, Unlimited is one of the strongest Squad.

[twilit flame]

it’s in the name

take notes Ingrid

[steady bison]

She’ll make a squad named Tactical 💀

[graceful cape]

Absolutely

[fathom charm]

Absolutely Tactical

[turbid forum]

Tactically Mid

💀

[tired marsh]

1

[lethal wigeon]

OL stat reco?

[plain rain]

4elem
4atk
2ammo

[remote inlet]

in which never happen

[remote terrace]

4 elm 4 atk 4 ammo

[flint reef]

[remote inlet]

imagine listening to this guy

[opaque burrow]

accidentally ban Leviathan

[jovial fog]

https://nikke.gg/ludmilla-winter-owner-guide-best-builds-teams-and-how-to-play/

[fathom charm]

he securing top 10 SR

🧎

[remote inlet]

If he is not banned then assume we are all safe

[bright berry]

Banned players for cheesing the score system

[remote inlet]

Ofc ban his f2p ass right this instance

[steady bison]

Incoming 1 day ban and clear info resets on Full Burst weekend day 😱

[white sinew]

I knew someone who got 2day ban today

[remote inlet]

u didnt get banned?

[white sinew]

Why would i

[remote inlet]

oh right

they dont ban whales

[white sinew]

I didnt use it to progress 2 damn chapter

And he only got 2 day

[remote inlet]

hold up let me make a thread in maincord

this is unjust

UNACCEPTABLE

[white sinew]

I stopped using alice during this bug period

If anything i think i deserve a refund for alice

[remote inlet]

ROLL BACK THIS MF ACC BEFORE NIHILISTER

[white sinew]

I will just pass it again without alice then

[white sinew]

Wtf

[valid chasm]

[remote inlet]

[valid chasm]

Are you hurr durr ?????

[remote inlet]

he is my bish

[valid chasm]

the hierachy of predators in this server unreal

[white sinew]

I just press start

Chill

[white sinew]

[remote inlet]

https://tenor.com/view/getgood-gif-16710272876338356123

[white sinew]

Stop running and give up

[valid chasm]

no

[bright berry]

And he will tell a lie

[steady bison]

https://tenor.com/view/christmas-tiny-love-cute-kitten-gif-3573657049007031452

Time to save the day with a cat gif

(Sniped while everyone was distracted by it)

[turbid forum]

Assuming Ludmilla has 100% reload speed

She should not lose the wind up right?

[steep patrol]

she should?

[candid plume]

Is level 2 bastion still better than level 5 resilience for an xludmilla without OLs?

[plain rain]

basically yeah

thats with the 10/10/10 try out lud so without resi

and lvl7 Priv S1

only when Lud bursts though

[plain rain]

prob not

[turbid forum]

Oh cool

Coz the same thing happened earlier when I was messing with Rosanna, S. Anis and Privaty. So I wondered if it will also apply to xLud

[vagrant blaze]

sanis + priv reload speed is passive skill, so rosanna can has 100% reload speed every full burst, but lud reload speed from her burst

[bright berry]

I was mostly wondering if the same applies for Xlud, because I use summer anis and privaty for Sanis to instantly reload even with her having 2 bullets during full burst

I have privaty's S1 at max lv 10, so it might be a big difference

[flint reef]

Out of topic but still interesting

[jovial fog]

Since it's out of topic

Get it to other channels

That you can discuss them in

[flint reef]

Is there a topic for general information sharing concerning the game?

[jovial fog]

#nikke-spice-chat

[flint reef]

topic name not very intuitive

[steep dragon]

it's main chat

that gets themed for each event basically

[waxen meadow]

XLudmilla still considered Top 5?

[steady bison]

Her position has only solidified, no idea about top 5 or what but she’s high up

She’s probably now the strongest possible Nikke if enemy has core and is weak to Water, also. RIP Summer Neon

[remote inlet]

I want to get enough cp

So i can try her in nihilister

The change effect lowkey is just changing attribute

[waxen meadow]

Saw someone say at one point "Top 3 or 4".

[flint reef]

we need like 100 modules for each unit 😑

[jovial fog]

If you really want to put a number on it
5

[flint reef]

look at this perfect reroll for lud

[vapid pewter]

Bump those numbers higher

[flint reef]

but not what we wanted on her

[plain rain]

lock

and reroll for charge speed/damage

[flint reef]

guess what I also got another gear with a perfect reroll for her

[plain rain]

[flint reef]

I am very lucky

[rocky sonnet]

is Ludmilla worth a mileage since I Still don't have her and I'm debating on that or save for new year

[remote inlet]

yes she is locked for a whole year, more rare than pilgrim

[rocky sonnet]

You make a good point

[full sequoia]

Pull Midca too

[remote inlet]

this role previously done by scarlet
**Scar by no mean worse, xludmilla ~= 70%Scar

[flint reef]

Cleared today with Litter/Naga/RH/xLudmilla (Previously A2)/Modernia, xLudmilla making things easier to deal with missiles and Modernia more focusing on QTE

A2 in B mode is also good to deal with the waves of missiles

[remote tartan]

Lol Auto, dang

[flint reef]

I like manual world too much

[opaque burrow]

test against wind code enemies, Lock state.

[steep patrol]

is there single enemy mode in shooting range yet

[remote terrace]

Bad Mod(?)

[opaque burrow]

maybe 😄

[steady bison]

All things being equal, W.Lud should be able to consistently outdamage Modernia unless OL luck favored Modernia... or elements mattered, or W.Lud couldn't hit core at all

But W.Lud has to burst

Imagine that, Modernia never bursting still keeping up with W.Lud That means in a burst cycle where W.Lud isn't bursting (e.g., the other B3 bursts), Modernia will be doing more damage than W.Lud

What are the top 5 again if W.Lud is 5th? Red Hood, Alice, Modernia, and who?

[wide dawn]

sw?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1181779382956724224/1181804619224076368/image-163.png?ex=658b9ed2&is=657929d2&hm=5759ffb81c83803f7253d218423b958257ec194356e9deb462d9b77172e82f0a&

surprisingly maxwell

wait why rh is low

hmm

[steady bison]

Huh, my memory failed me. It's this crazy huh?

[wide dawn]

this isn't right

[steady bison]

And wdym RH is low, she's practically almost 1b dmg

[wide dawn]

rh was over 1b

if I'm not wrong

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1167462163527499928/1171822421888733194/image-131.png?ex=658c382c&is=6579c32c&hm=7b3b739be5bad576d2cf0dd29dd2d511bb99ddee67cd7297fe8bd4bcca254e5b&

ok found the rh one

rh seems close

but this one has sw over mw

I wish I had the link for the spreadsheet

[plain rain]

#research-results message

[wide dawn]

no wonder sw has less dmg

they gave everyone cores except sw

[plain rain]

its fair though

lb0 SW, core 6 MW here

[wide dawn]

comparing to core 7 scar rh etc

[jovial fog]

The table is a bit inaccurate but if we get a boss like sunbather who is wind weak for example, who has no boss parts and no pierce available

Ludmilla will outdps everyone and their mother

[trim lagoon]

wat if we give mw fight with spam respawn 4pierce every sw shot

[steady bison]

What if we forced SW to fight with a spork?

[trim lagoon]

she would win

will actively eat the raptures alive

[hazy hull]

Hey guys i'm thinking to cook a Miranda-Tia-Naga-RH and xLud but xLud have higher attack then RH so miranda buff is on xLud

Is this a good idea? My assumption since Miranda buff usually onlt have 50% utilizatiob for RH since RH can only burst every other time but xLud main damage come not from the burst so she basically can fully utilize mIranda buff

[jovial fog]

That team is ass

Don't run it

Ask in #raid-planning for help

Both redhood and Ludmilla are good nikkes

You should use a character that will be able to provide both of them buffs

And not just one of them

Since rh and lud are the highest damage dealers for you

[hazy hull]

I see. Thank you

[wide dawn]

only problem with that team was cdr, wdym its ass

[jovial fog]

Miranda to buff Rh xLud is bad

Is what I meant

Just putting in Miranda makes it bad in my books

[wide dawn]

sw unplayable

[ivory brook]

how much ammo does solo ludmilla need?

[remote inlet]

[flint reef]

Nihilister done (normal 22-36), xlud helped (7/4/6) with elemental advantage but bad OL gears though.
It will take an eternity to get the good stats 😑

[gritty yew]

78.81% ele xlud ready for SR

[lone radish]

spend 30k gems on pulling xlud to get 3k gems on solo raid 🧠

[plain rain]

core 7 lud with 0% elem

https://tenor.com/view/kurt-angle-me-when-looking-stare-are-you-serious-gif-11132620111287096186

[flint reef]

bait of all gacha games, challenge's rewards are never worth the investment 😁

[lone radish]

its fine if the required nikke will be versatile like redhood/a2 can be used for pvp

[wide dawn]

I don't want to say it but my xlud feels worse day by day in campaign

[flint reef]

where are you, I am just starting chapter 23 normal

[white sinew]

Rekt

[wide dawn]

24

[fathom charm]

😭its not about the gems its about sending a message

[wide dawn]

xlud being useful on speedrunning dailies

[remote inlet]

some Phase 2 train gameplay (Tia shield clutch af 🛡️ )

[wide dawn]

only stage where you like bunnies more no cap

[remote inlet]

hold up u might be on to sth here

no damage

[wide dawn]

how ?

its not like core buff does something

[full sequoia]

Where the two 2 LBs man

[radiant matrix]

Finally got Ludmilla! But all my rocks went into charge spd and damage

[remote terrace]

Tiga > Bunnies even with no core

[remote inlet]

it does feel like that

[steady bison]

Naga still buffs ATK (two different ATK buffs in her burst, she applies both if she has an applied shield on herself pre-burst)

Tia still buffs ATK DMG

So there’s no real handicap, more of a the enemy is crying tears of joy that they don’t have a core for the evil schoolgirls from Hell to torture

[wide dawn]

maybe its because I don't have blanc but doesn't bunnies make thrain easier with the bonus qte dmg and the aoe chip dmg

[rose swallow]

Is there anyone who actually struggles with the QTE of train?

Pretty sure the hard part is out-DPSing the missilies in phase 2 and destroying the turrets fast enough

[remote inlet]

it does

but thats SI train

this train i need tinaga cuz i just feel like the bunnies not doing much here since the beginning part

i tossed away my second ammo line for ele+atk

gonna feel real good in this raid

[white sinew]

New meta

[remote inlet]

looks like your cousin

[white sinew]

Naa just an average A2 user

[remote inlet]

bro is also blind

he doesnt even use a2

blah blah blah

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/946719897390563328/1175331995706982472/20f2d0846de9c31b6d57180754c1de7151355ac6e7c086089da67b2e1a0b2c96.gif?ex=656ad838&is=65586338&hm=51dee99c0cf0c8a7925ebb2a325eee438f26cdaf3444410f838e4a693a961c42&

[steep patrol]

tove without a shotgun, the fuck

[elder herald]

the reason red hood is "low" is because she only has the highest DPS in the game during burst

outside of burst, she can still spam a lot of shots, tho

[sturdy nymph]

❓

[remote terrace]

Huh

[sturdy nymph]

I think bro is lost lol

[lone radish]

new meta

[gritty yew]

[ivory brook]

Bro is lost

[jovial fog]

let him cook

[elder herald]

oh, i just saw that chart from way earlier

and i remember some people were confused why red hood isn't #1 in it

and isn't it cuz red hood is only #1 dps during her burst

(well, I guess Alice is, until she has to reload)

Modernia and Ludmilla have the advantage of rarely, if ever, having to reload.

needless to say, in a short fight, red hood remains #1, lol

[jovial fog]

He cooked

[plush flare]

Mid||notatall||hood

||just joking gays||

|| ||

[remote inlet]

[jovial fog]

Bruh

[remote inlet]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/946719897390563328/1175331995706982472/20f2d0846de9c31b6d57180754c1de7151355ac6e7c086089da67b2e1a0b2c96.gif?ex=656ad838&is=65586338&hm=51dee99c0cf0c8a7925ebb2a325eee438f26cdaf3444410f838e4a693a961c42&

[elder herald]

I missed the part where that was wrong.

Red Hood #1 during her burst and not so outside of it, is that not true

[elder herald]

oh, but anyway

what is Ludmilla's skill priority?

i'd assume s1>s3>s2

[remote inlet]

they trolled u

[elder herald]

w0rry

I guess RH can fire more often compared to other snipers

[full sequoia]

must wait for new year first

[flint reef]

yes sure and better using these gold tickets when there is a Pilgrim banner.
You already have one copy which is already good

[full sequoia]

It's 1LB I can mlb her!!!

😭

[flint reef]

Did you break the 160 wall already?

If yes I don't see a good reason to use your gold tickets to MLB her and even with that better to wait what is coming during NY and save these tickets

Patience!

[full sequoia]

Yeah

I got Anne to C1 also while trying to get Ludmilla dupes, they're telling me to stop coping

[steep patrol]

i didn't get any annes so i ticketed

[rose swallow]

Unless you REALLY want that lobby BG, MLB isn't worth using mileage

2/3 for max bond, maybe

[lone radish]

question: is there a point of getting xludmilla if u can alrdy secure high % on solo raid?

i think most players pulling specific nikke for a purpose like pvp or raid or coop

[graceful cape]

do you need a heavy dps in Tetra's tower?

or are you content with 5 ammo forever Anis?

[silver ingot]

that question will depends on how try hard you intend to be, ludmilla is a very good dps, and if you dont own a modernia, she's pretty much a direct substitution

also there's the elemental advantage factor that eventually you'll want a lot of these elemental specific dps in the long term (like several years down the track)

i'd still say a copy minimum, but if you're f2p, you might just want to wait until last days when they've revealed the nikke for new year banner

[lavish trout]

she also has huge honkers

[jovial fog]

Yes she's very fucking good

Don't take it lightly

Only water dps, huge for UR too

[steady bison]

Depends on your priorities. If your goal is to win at Hard campaign, you’re probably set with maxing out one single boss killing squad because even if you wallop stages, you’ll get walled by bosses, or if you wallop bosses, you’ll get walled by stages

In this case you only need one meta squad with one or two swap-ins to handle problems

If your goal is to win at Union raid, you want 3 meta squads… but it’s actually possible to overdo Union Raid because it normally requires most or all of your Union to coordinate properly anyway

And now if your goal is to win at Solo Raid… how big you want to win at it?

[silver ingot]

beat kira in NA.... maybe??

[lone radish]

my tetra tower is fine with core2 alice and sanis floor 188 atm

[lone radish]

yea i got scarlet and RH for normal campaigns im still thinking until now if i should get her

mybe it all depends on each players needs. but me who has scarlet modernia RH sanis alice im not sure if i still need xludmilla

i hv a feeling like she will get benched like A2

[steady bison]

Personally, I hate playing snipers. Oh I have a lot of fun using Red Hood in my squad, but having to manually fire her shots was always a dirty job I’d sooner dispense with. So W.Ludmilla was great for me to get, I’ll now only bring out the snipers if I’m impatient enough or the stage tosses something nutty at me like dropping a jamming tower as soon as the fight starts

[lone radish]

yea snipers on capture stages zucs

[graceful cape]

iirc 189 is 15-18 in disguise
195F binds you with Sentry + Defense pot. And both are mid ~ far range, where shotgun does 0 there even as 5 ammo Anis. But play it to your pace.

[rose swallow]

Seeing as she's limited and that there's a risk of her being a .0.25% chance next year if they stick all four limiteds in the same 1% zone, I think she's definitely worth 1 copy

But getting more than one copy is for spenders, probs

For new players, I think MLB is extremely worth since she's powerful and they'll need to break the 160 wall anyway

Even if X Rupee and Anne aren't great, they'll help with that, at least

That's the hidden benefit of this banner reducing the chance of getting normal Nikkes; increased chance of getting 4/5 MLBs for 160 wall

[lone radish]

since new players got the luck to get multiple ssr right

[rose swallow]

Anyone can potentially have that luck

[full sequoia]

It was wasted on C1 XAnne

[sand yacht]

last pull b4 going broke! it was fuckin worth it

210 pulls total for 4 xRupee, 1 xAnne, 1 Mica and 3 xlud. At least i was able to 2 star xlud for max bond

[remote inlet]

those 4 rupee 1 anne

could have been 5 pilgrim

[sand yacht]

i lost hope in pilgrim the moment my first RH was in 270 pulls and getting another sr on mold 2 days ago

RH is mlb already anyways

[flint reef]

I have a little more than 100 mold pilgrim, I don't want to open them

[sturdy nymph]

That's 300 DNA towards a gold though

[remote inlet]

Do it puss

https://tenor.com/view/do-it-now-gif-8259067036335066552

[sand yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/good-morning-do-it-gif-24435329

[remote inlet]

Maybe dont do it

[flint reef]

so lucky better than R or SR

[bright berry]

I was like that too when red hood got added into the pilgrim molds, and I managed to get a dupe of her

[flint reef]

Cool, congrats
I clearly don't believe I will be so lucky, I will open them later

[full sequoia]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-ice-water-i-dont-need-it-gif-14272849

[remote inlet]

Midlud

[bright berry]

Not mlb maybe?

[gritty yew]

she'll be less dmg than modernia if theres no consistent core to hit

[white spindle]

Oops

Pinne mold

[white sinew]

His is max core

[remote inlet]

xlud 111k atk 17.28%atk from OL
mod 105k atk 46.58%atl from OL
could be the reason for 6ml dps difference

[jovial fog]

Or it could be midlud