[Ludmilla: Winter Owner] New Unit Megathread

[fluid furnace]

not against whale I believe

[primal nebula]

comp for what content?

[remote terrace]

XRupee Mica Dolla SAnis Scarlet

[fluid furnace]

beating whale

[split nimbus]

Just cry

[remote terrace]

XRupee taunts so she needs cleanse.

Last team is Miranda SW Yulha.

[split nimbus]

Did you unironically recommend xrupee

[remote terrace]

XRupee is a thing and has been used.

A few times.

[split nimbus]

[primal nebula]

sounds kind of cool

[fluid furnace]

I will probably brute force it with scarlet and xlude after I upgrade her

[remote terrace]

Remember to make Mica lose stacks on purpose.

[split nimbus]

Is that the SR mica or the new one

Oh

LMAO

[inland night]

someone get this guy out of kitchen

[split nimbus]

[remote terrace]

Hell, SMary Dolla 2B A2 Scarlet

Will probably still outdamage it

Who knows

Yeah A2 is needed to hit parts

But who knows

• Liter Blanc A2 Noir Mod

• Vol Tiga RH Alice

• Doro Marci* Max XLud Priv

• XRupee Mica SHelm SAnis Scarlet

• SMary SHelm 2B SAnis Scarlet

• Miranda Dolla SW Helm Yulha

• Tove Dolla B3 Helm Guilty

But I dont have Marci

[primal nebula]

prepare mica for the solo raid next month i see

[unreal agate]

Anyone test S.Mary with XLud?

For a Team 5 material

[primal nebula]

the solo raid people will be testers. wait for a few days ig

[unreal agate]

Poor me have no sync slot, LOL

[split nimbus]

500 gems

[fluid furnace]

what about putting bastion, then on burst intentionally reload her?

[remote terrace]

• Liter Blanc A2 Noir Mod

• Vol Tiga RH Alice

• Vol Tiga RH XLud

• Doro Marci* Max XLud Priv

• Young Hand: Doro Novel Alice Max Priv

• XRupee Mica[NoStack] SHelm SAnis Scarlet

• SMary SHelm 2B SAnis Scarlet

• Miranda Dolla SW Helm Yulha

• No SW: Tove Dolla B3 Helm Guilty

• Tove/Mica: Tove Guilty B3 Helm Mica

[pseudo crow]

Whats the reason xlud shouldnt go with bunnies mod on bossing?

[hushed brook]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18-xhK2b7yQ

[white sinew]

plap

[thorn hatch]

So xLud is a top 3 dps

[wide dawn]

whats the lud math rn

is she above or below guilly

[jovial fog]

Why would the math change

If nothing from the theoretical values before changed

[jovial fog]

There's no set rule

[wide dawn]

the math table was all over the place

I asked just in case if anyone put all 3 on the table to compare

and had a ss for it

[pseudo crow]

Just asking cause kisenix straight up said its not what youd use for bossing but i dont see why

[jovial fog]

Where did he say that

Ayo so

What's skill rec

[river pelican]

according to kisenix

Skill: 10/7+/6+ + 3 Max Ammo lines + Resilience

If in Noir team, use Bastion (2 max ammo is fine with Noir).

[jovial fog]

Lud is usable everywhere
Don't worry about it

[jovial fog]

Damn, expensiv

[steep patrol]

isn't that the case for any dps?

[jovial fog]

A2 was 777
Scar is 10/5/5 now

[wide dawn]

10-7-7 is not that expensive tbh

after rh

[jovial fog]

The problem is

We just got redhood

[abstract barn]

[jovial fog]

And a ton of other units

[abstract barn]

Thats why im skipping

[jovial fog]

I haven't recovered at all

[abstract barn]

I already have SAnis

[sonic bloom]

at least get 1 copy bruh

[abstract barn]

Why need another tetra unit

[jovial fog]

Sanis is dead

Also xLud is BiS tower

[abstract barn]

Not dead in pvp

[jovial fog]

True

[abstract barn]

I been using her

[jovial fog]

Well
Sanis isn't dead

I am lying

[abstract barn]

Anyways not going for another tetra unit

Because i have too many

[jovial fog]

But still

Anis is dead to me cuz Ludmilla is my mommy now

[hallow fox]

Why is sanis dead?

[abstract barn]

Then go C7 then

[abstract barn]

Is referring as a joke

[jovial fog]

No

[abstract barn]

Weak

[jovial fog]

Only c7 will be metal gear collab

[abstract barn]

I seee

Well she did better than Sneon

Still i need to skip

[full sequoia]

https://tenor.com/view/mgs-gif-20736578

[waxen meadow]

What's the word?

[jovial fog]

Pinned

The word is mommy

[waxen meadow]

"good' doesn't tell the story.

[jovial fog]

What do you want me to say

Also, scroll.

[waxen meadow]

Is she "Can replace someone in the Top 10" good, is she "grab for your UR" good or is she "Pick up if you need more power" good?

[jovial fog]

Scroll.

[waxen meadow]

I did, I didn't see anything absolute.

Y'all did more sourcing with Red Hood.

[jovial fog]

Bro there's nothing else to say

She's good

Pull her

Or delete game

That's it

[waxen meadow]

Top Ten Good, thank kyou

[river pelican]

it's more like top 3-4

[waxen meadow]

I'll give her a pull when I get home.

[full sequoia]

Uuugh I want to try get MLB

[remote terrace]

Yes the math table was a bit wrong

Because Tiga is a much stronger dps support

So the table was inflated

It's biased toward XLud

But again, XLud also gives dmg taken

So technically Mod had less damage

[jovial fog]

Mod should be doing more than lud in the same team

So it's correct

As we mathed

But
Lud can go to core thing

And do biggg pp damage

[idle fox]

who would y'all say xLud is a direct replacement/upgrade for, if anyone?

SNeon?

trying to figure out who to take out of syncro to make room for her if possible, so having a couple options for who she could replace would be good

I don't even have SNeon

[remote terrace]

Huh

No, her dealing less than Lud was when enemy had no core

The xLud being top 3

Was because she was with Tiga

[bright hill]

And Mod was with Bunnies?

[remote terrace]

Yes

[jovial fog]

Her position hasnt been determined yet but

She's very strong
That's all we know

If I had to rank, I'd say

Alice, redhood
Snowwhite
Modernia, Ludmilla
Maxwell
Sanis
Scarlet, guillotine, 2B
A2

[idle fox]

nrhdo

[remote terrace]

The fuck is SW doing

[jovial fog]

Sit your ahh down

SWless

Mf

She's the goat

[remote terrace]

Stfu SW isnt always better

[jovial fog]

She's been better 6/8 SRs

[remote terrace]

Red Hood
Alice
Modernia
Ludmilla
Snow White
Maxwell
SAnis
Scarlet, 2B, A2
Guillotine

Oh, yeah, dont use XLud with Bunnies pls

Dmg taken diluted

From 12% to around 8%

And she need A LOT OF ATTACK

So either Tiga or Maxwell

The benefit of Tiga is that they are slightly weaker than bunnies in buffing XLud's additional damage but Volume crit compensates that

Idk if Doro Marci RH Alice Priv is a thing however

I feel lack of buff

RH Alice, Max XLud is still my recommendation

Or RH XLud (which wastes RH's S1 potential but gives damage taken), then Alice Max

I think we will be seeing XLud Max Priv more

You dont need Resil, just Bastion here

So u can get 2 max ammo + rest is just atk

[remote inlet]

https://tenor.com/view/dead-gif-23304164

[full sequoia]

https://tenor.com/view/huh-cat-huh-m4rtin-huh-huh-meme-what-cat-gif-27377993

[wide dawn]

Sky test, only diff is mod has more affection and a few more levels on recycle

And a few levels on chest piece

[remote terrace]

Wait lets math

960 + 150

What are those teams bro

[river pelican]

@remote terracewhy do you rec raw atk buffs for lud? Doesn't she get a lot of them already from her burst?

[wide dawn]

He tried to not to skew DMG so he used general buffs

[remote terrace]

Outside her burst?

[remote terrace]

Crit is biased toward XLud

[wide dawn]

Tell sky then

Still dps being this close

[remote terrace]

Optimal is still Priv team

[wide dawn]

No way

[remote terrace]

Where tf is search button

[fluid furnace]

What skill lvls u have on xlude ?

[wide dawn]

10-10-10

On that screenshot

[fluid furnace]

mod also 10-10-10 ?

[wide dawn]

Yes

Guilty 7-7-10 or 10-7-10

I really don't know for sure

[fluid furnace]

okie, Thank you

[wide dawn]

Also her lud gets the best reload worth 2 T11 max ammo she reloads on the right time

With resilience

[remote terrace]

New cooking:

Dorothy X XLud Maxwell Priv

You only need 1 max ammo line in this team, according to Gatrix's calculation, as long as S1 is Level 10. Use Bastion. Reload during her Burst + Priv.

[wide dawn]

Her busrt+resi is already almost max

[remote terrace]

Make sure to understand when their Burst overlaps.

It happens 2 times.

[wide dawn]

Why are you getting this deep into reload

[remote terrace]

During her entire Full Burst, and around 3s at the start of Max's Burst.

[pseudo crow]

I dont get this point, dilluted because of what?

[remote terrace]

Blanc.

[wide dawn]

Blanc also buffs the DMG done with the same debuff

[remote terrace]

No, you need to waste 3 max ammo lines to do that.

[pseudo crow]

And they dont stack or?

[remote terrace]

Because there is a 16-18s window without Reload.

[wide dawn]

Watch the vod after

He reloads on right time with 2 T11 max ammo

[remote terrace]

You only need 1 with Priv.

With 0 reload.

There is no going back to cover.

There is 0 windup.

Full shooting 3 mins.

[graceful cape]

and free 12,56% dmg from Lud too

don't forget

[wide dawn]

He can't remove thag

That

[graceful cape]

he should do 2 runs, one with Lud only + supports, the other is Mod only with support

you can. Just reduce Mod dmg by 12.56%

see the better picture now?

[wide dawn]

He has no life but not to that degree

[remote terrace]

Every max ammo line ≠ loss of elm/atk buff

Btw

So when I say 1 max ammo team vs 3 max ammo

1 max ammo has advantage

[wide dawn]

Just roll all 3 smh

[remote terrace]

Normally yes

[jovial fog]

¢$$

[copper peak]

Does XLud's damage boost affect Dorothy burst? Idk how Dorothy's damage is calculated

[wide dawn]

You're getting much from the jk team compared to 1 line of ele or att

[dire oracle]

doro burst = atk only

[remote terrace]

That Head and Glove is kinda gay

[copper peak]

Does it not use element either?

[wide dawn]

That head is so cursed

You want to lock that 3rd lor but man it's value is almost 0

[remote terrace]

Those values are so low

[remote terrace]

No refresh value only

Those numbers are level 4 or below lmao

Fixed

[wide dawn]

Also according to sky cals if you're over 166% ammo your resil reload won't be in the reload cycle

Ez

[remote terrace]

You manual her

[wide dawn]

Tbh I have a lot to manual

[remote terrace]

Shud I reroll that lonely ATK line

Lmao

[wide dawn]

İf you have spare rocks why not

[remote terrace]

I can just reset attributes

Reroll into what

Element?

[wide dawn]

Ele+max ammo next roll trust

[remote terrace]

Ok I reroll the head with 2 gems

[wide dawn]

I was coping on boots but ok

[remote terrace]

Im saving for Tove

[white sinew]

just a quick question on cores , does it increase with sync , and how much dmg gain per core just wondering, or is mlb good enough

on xlud

[strong seal]

You guys have rocks?

[remote terrace]

RESET EFFECTS OR REROLL ATTRIBUTES

[wide dawn]

Roll Tove for what exactly

Max ammo only ?

[strong seal]

I have a set of t9 manufacturers for xlud, just no rocks lol

[pseudo crow]

Reset effect with line 3 attack?! Why?!

[remote terrace]

Ok

[remote terrace]

BRO ITS THIS

[remote terrace]

THIS

[pseudo crow]

Just lock then tf

[wide dawn]

Save fist line att cope

[remote terrace]

ITS FIRST LINE U MF

[pseudo crow]

OH THE FIRST LINE

LMFAO

ok

[remote terrace]

Im just gonna reset attributes

Save rocks

Ill learn my lesson from people who always run out of rocks

[silver shoal]

So did she end up being decent or midmilla?

[wide dawn]

But reset is gamba

Gamba it

[remote terrace]

Spent 2 rocks

All right

Im out

Good luck gambling OL yall

[wide dawn]

Tyty

[slate ore]

How many ammo needed to shoot entire 3 mins non stop if pair with Noir
Left colume is XLud S1, row is Noir S2
Red color means impossible, Green is possible
If the value is negative, guarantee never ran out no matter what
Values all calculated with bastion

[strong seal]

Ngl I have no regrets, I rerolled a scarlet piece from ele damage to max ammo with my last 2 rocks

[slate ore]

Idk what condition I should write for middle zone

Red is imposible, Green is enough or infinite

[remote terrace]

So my Lud has:

• 68.93% + 56.60% Max Ammo
• 26.99% Attack
• 23.56% Elemental

Consumed around Idk 15 rocks?

[copper peak]

Is this with Liter?

[remote terrace]

Oh, she will surely outdamage my Mod.

[slate ore]

No Liter

[remote terrace]

[slate ore]

Green I set below 300

[remote terrace]

What is -181?

[jovial fog]

How much is required to make her keep shooting with privaty + resil

[slate ore]

Negative means see max ammo non stop

[remote terrace]

You never run out of ammo at base ammo?

[slate ore]

Yeah

[remote terrace]

Interesting.

Well, my Ludmilla is built for all teams anyways.

[slate ore]

If stalling needed... infinite

[remote terrace]

[strong seal]

Still infinite with enough leeway?

[slate ore]

Never ran out

[remote terrace]

3

[strong seal]

If you stop hitting stuff

[remote terrace]

3 max ammo min

Bro WHY PRIV RESI

PRIV BASTION ENOUGH

HOW MUCH RELOAD U WANT

200%?

[slate ore]

Not enough
Add XRupee and Admi

There you go

[jovial fog]

The left column is..? Ludmilla S1 level 1,2,3..?

[slate ore]

Yeah

[jovial fog]

So you need ZERO max ammo rolls??

To infinite shoot??

[remote terrace]

Good

[jovial fog]

What the fuck

[remote terrace]

Let me calculate

Maybe I dont need S1 at level 10

[jovial fog]

Can you combine the image and the message so I can pin?

[sonic bloom]

she gonna reload for the next reload as well

[wide dawn]

Damage taken debuff speaks itself

[tawdry narwhal]

do i pull for ludmilla?

[jovial fog]

Yes

[slate ore]

Admi 50.91%
XRupee 63.17%
Privaty 51.16%
Ludmilla 67.2%
Resi Cube 29.96%
Total: 262.22% reload speed boost

Yeah that's sound enough for me

[copper peak]

Just let us reload twice max ammo at 200%

[opaque burrow]

so my Noir have max skill 2, reload cube lv 8, how many % ammo OL my Lud needs?

[slate ore]

No need if skill 1 9+ and bastion

[opaque burrow]

oh ho

[slate ore]

Oh yeah, if you removed bastion

Impossible

[wide dawn]

Just reload with 95%

Smh

[copper peak]

Is there a way to factor in Liter? Do you just use the number that Liter would put XLud at?

[slate ore]

Red number all the way baby

[opaque burrow]

Well, i'm gonna max my waifu anyway

So skill 1 and burst priority > skill 2

[slate ore]

1324 is 4 black ammo stats

[jovial fog]

S1 = B > S2

Yeah

[hushed brook]

[wide dawn]

İnb4 they "hotfix" lud

[round marsh]

the pinned table using lv7 bastion?

[wide dawn]

How about +2 bastion

[opaque burrow]

so XLud have a chance to better than Modernia?

[wide dawn]

+2ammo bastion

[opaque burrow]

yup

well, you need lv 7 bastion anyway

[dim palm]

what is the numbers on the left, 11-20?

[round marsh]

so 9/9 xlud/noir is the sweet spot

[slate ore]

lud s1

[dim palm]

lvl 11?

or lvl 1

[wide dawn]

Yeah 11

New system for skills

[dim palm]

i was thinking it was odd

and the top is noir s2?

[copper peak]

Noir at level 26.02%

[dim palm]

[opaque burrow]

https://tenor.com/view/shooting-gun-reload-fast-reload-throw-gun-away-gif-17416824

XLud against bosses

infinite ammo works

[remote terrace]

Let me show u

Ludmilla is shit

[wide dawn]

I already did this joke

[dim palm]

[sullen apex]

is she like half of modernia ?

[remote terrace]

Elija Idiotka

[wide dawn]

More like 0.3 mod

[copper peak]

Maxwell 50x the power level and only twice Ludmilla damage, seems good to me

[wide dawn]

Jk jk

[opaque burrow]

is she worth MLB

[wide dawn]

All red

At least she is not in the bunnies

[jovial fog]

Why is there a non green shaded part

[trim lagoon]

wat was the question?

reload speed to not wind down?

i think if ur manual reloading u can go all the way to 10

since u can just skip cover peak like snipers

[wide dawn]

Can someone math the lud s1 and S2 procs

I wonder is she is the bugged one or not

[remote terrace]

Ok need Max Ammo

3 lines for comfort

2 lines if u wanna bald

[wide dawn]

2 T11 is enough for the right reload time

İf you want the full shoot I think 3

[trim lagoon]

also is xmica dead with tova

i saw some stacking fixes

[remote terrace]

No

It didnt fix stacking

It only fixed atk spd bug

[trim lagoon]

the wat

[remote terrace]

So atk spd was given when ANY unit has 3 stacks of max ammo buff

Now it only happens when TOVE has 3 stacks

[trim lagoon]

im upsetti they didnt give me 3x blanc dating sim

today

🚮

will be leaving that in my next survey

[next girder]

so what's the consensus so far?

[remote terrace]

What bro

Full auto bitch

10/5/5

[rose swallow]

She's easily Pilgrim-tier vs enemies with cores (even more so if they're Fire element)

[wide dawn]

hotfix coming for xlud

[remote terrace]

Huh

Whats wrong

[rose swallow]

No details, but solo raid delayed cuz of abnormal damage

[wide dawn]

I'm joking about the sr postpone

[rose swallow]

Doesn't specify Ludmilla either, but posslble

Hoping that it's Chatterbox that deals the abnormal damage.

I'm very happy with X Ludmilla's performance

[wide dawn]

I assume its the new chatterbox coree

being double hit'd by pierce because the old core is still there

[fluid furnace]

If they nerf her they should refund

[wide dawn]

but imagine if they "hotfix" xlud

I would be

[fluid furnace]

more dmg like rh ?

[wide dawn]

more like lapplace

[rose swallow]

Ah, I could see that

[remote terrace]

No i think its Lud

[fluid furnace]

nerf ?

[remote terrace]

Wait no

Theres nothing wrong with Lud

It is fps dependent

If low fps u LOSE SO MUCH DPS

[rose swallow]

I was about to actually say what if the abnormal damage is abnormally low so it's a hotfix buff

[remote terrace]

Auto.

Mod may not be shooting the same target as XLud does, so that's DPS loss for Mod.

Left is against FIRE. Right is neutral.

[wide dawn]

basic2622 s1 70897 s2 49063

now I need to math these numbers if lud skills match

[remote terrace]

Oh, yeah, non-optimal run. Just I have shit aim.

[wide dawn]

uhh guys

my s1/s2 dmg is not equal to actual s1dmg/s2dmg

[remote terrace]

Dmg distance

[wide dawn]

the math says it should be 1.673 but the actual math is 1.445

same target

[remote terrace]

Oh wrong nunber

[wide dawn]

also

found the bug

its in eden

its so funny

[rose swallow]

Yup

[remote terrace]

What bug?

[wide dawn]

are you in eden

[rose swallow]

Alice getting over 6k% charge

[remote terrace]

Ludmilla is SSS tier

[next girder]

Lowkey?

[remote terrace]

±dmg as Mod ✅

+dmg taken ✅

[rose swallow]

Should've been obviously from her kit

[remote terrace]

-cannot fucking dmg enemy without core ✅

No core she reverts to Scarlet dmg

With core she becomes Mod

[rose swallow]

Regardless, she's an honorary Pilgrim

[remote terrace]

Wait Mica

Unlimited atk buff

[sonic bloom]

her increase dmg taken will always have its use

[thorn hatch]

Top 3 - 4 dps

[opaque burrow]

Remember, new year is near

[river pelican]

already have 400 gold ticks for the inevitable pilgrim jks/bunnies

[rose swallow]

3200 stocked up here.

[river pelican]

then we will literally never have to roll for another support again. All 5 teams will be filled

[remote inlet]

38k gems + 25prem pull only 1 copy Lud, this game is so trash

[wide dawn]

power creep says hi

[thorn hatch]

I might actually use some mileage tickets for more Lud copies.

[rose swallow]

I'll just swipe instead.

[thorn hatch]

I honestly wouldn't mind the new years unit being shit

Because then I could just use them last day on the Ludmilla banner

[jovial fog]

🧢

[thorn hatch]

I don't have mod so Lud is really nice

[rose swallow]

Yeah, generally, unless you're the super sweaty type in raids, best to just get one copy then wait until next banner info is released to pull

[strong seal]

So she sucks on Nihilister?

[rose swallow]

Sucks as much as Scarlet does

Except she gets strong element

[wide dawn]

man scarlet is so trash smh

[rose swallow]

• S Mary for even more strong element

[strong seal]

Possibly the one place Sneon could beat her

[wide dawn]

aint no way

[rose swallow]

S Mary + X Ludmilla's Damage Taken Up Debuff might actually make S Neon usable.

[brisk thicket]

What exactly makes Xudmilla broken?

[rose swallow]

Her whole kit

What part of her doesn't look broken

[wide dawn]

she does dmg and more dmg then lets her team do more dmg

then fills up ammo as she shoots

then reloads in light speed

[thorn hatch]

That's what I plan on doing, next unit info should defo be released before the banner ends

[rose swallow]

Inflicts the most powerful debuff in the game, gets infinite ammo, has insane reload in case she can't get infinite ammo, has damaging skills that run off of continuous fire, and gives herself a hefty ATK buff

Crit Rate isn't anything to scream for joy about, but it helps, too

[brisk thicket]

Does Autoplay hit cores?

[rose swallow]

Depends on the boss

vs mobs, pretty much always

Like vs Blacksmith, AIs won't hit the core until the guns are down

[strong seal]

Nihilister? GL getting to phase 2

[river pelican]

Is Liter accounted for in your findings?

[rose swallow]

What do you mean? She doesn't kill herself, unlike Scarlet

[wide dawn]

got her to 10-7-7 and I'm out of books

[jovial fog]

What's this bug I'm hearing about Alice 6000%?

[thorn hatch]

A new wave of Alice cope

[jovial fog]

Any1 know how it's happening

[wide dawn]

#1059468005911830558 message

[jovial fog]

So charge bug is back?

[wide dawn]

I guess

[river pelican]

another big win for the big M

[white sinew]

Precharge

[white sinew]

Lemme sent you the video

My friend got 319mil per shot

[wide dawn]

he is in the eden rn

he knows

[jovial fog]

My god

[river pelican]

Related I think.

[white sinew]

He doesn't know what i know

So im letting him know what i know

You know

[river pelican]

Just tested lvl 7 S1 Lud 1 Ammo with lvl 7 S2 Noir + Litter with +3 Bastion. Reloaded 1min in. Obviously that's not good enough.

[opaque burrow]

Both need lv 9 at least

[river pelican]

Also I missed this

Her self reload buff is 20s instead of the usual 10s

[rose swallow]

Lorax was saying S1 level 9 is needed I think

[blazing sand]

God, not this guy again. Haven't seen him since around Half anni when he was spreading misinformation that Special Intercept scaled with your level cause he wasn't clearing consistently.

[wide dawn]

lmao

[rose swallow]

https://tenor.com/view/jarvis-jarvis-skill-issue-skill-issue-gif-24471438

I seriousuly don't understand how someone can look at that kit and think "mid"

[wide dawn]

the numbers are low

if you don't know how to add 1 digit numbers

then multiply them

[rose swallow]

Compared to other units, they aren't low though

[blissful raven]

So you mean that outside her being a limited unit there is no other good reason to pull her?

Which was what i was about to ask

[rose swallow]

Wait, are you asking seriously?

[blissful raven]

Yes

[wide dawn]

oh my

[rose swallow]

Uh, she's one of the strongest DPS units to be released in the game

not to mention water

which currently has Brid as the only arguable representative

in a game with tons of fire bosses

[jovial fog]

Dorothy Sneon and neve

[blazing sand]

Me and my friends quickly realized trying to talk sense into him was useless and there were actually a handful of sheep that latched onto his 'theory' cause they were having similar issues

[jovial fog]

Not brid

[vapid pewter]

Pin says pull homie

[wide dawn]

he said the S word

[rose swallow]

S Neon is garbage, Neve is limited and only strong against specific bosses, and Dorothy doesn't count

[jovial fog]

My mileage makes me remember

Ok bros
Sneon isn't garbage ok

[blissful raven]

Just saw it, pulling then

[wide dawn]

sneon is like mod, you lose dmg when you burst

[jovial fog]

She can outdps scarlet if she's not bursting against water enemies with core

So fuck you

[marsh atlas]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1038708366630977566/1047768821747941376/20221201_022935.gif

[rose swallow]

Not talking about her damage

[jovial fog]

Also she is hotter than your waifu

[rose swallow]

Modernia doesn't lose an entire skill from not bursting

[wide dawn]

thats not the point

[rose swallow]

Her kit works against itself

[wide dawn]

[rose swallow]

That's what I mean

[wide dawn]

just look at it from the bright side

[jovial fog]

I rest my case

[rose swallow]

I mean, I have MLB S Neon, so obviously my own commentary didn't stop me from pulling her anyway

[blissful raven]

Got Yan in my first 10 puller
No SSR in my second 10 puller
Got her in my third 10 puller

I can get another copy with golden tickets, should i?

[rose swallow]

I'd say not

Save mileage for Pilgrims

[vapid pewter]

If poor not

[blissful raven]

got it

[rose swallow]

1% scam isn't fun

[blissful raven]

and i read that i should get at least one copy

[wide dawn]

I sparked tia after pulling 20 multis and not getting her

[vapid pewter]

Ye

[jovial fog]

Someone fund my AnneMF

[rose swallow]

Getting extra dupes is for sweaty play

[jovial fog]

I need her

For pvp

[rose swallow]

If you care about being in the numerical digits of rank in SR, then pull more/use mileage

[jovial fog]

And for some unique comps I might make some day

[rose swallow]

Otherwise, save

[blissful raven]

Aaaaaand got her with Rapunzel

on my 4th 10 puller

[rose swallow]

230 here

[plush flare]

rip scar, she was power creeped by any nikke now

[rose swallow]

also used mileage

[plush flare]

[jovial fog]

Fund my anneMf

[rose swallow]

Scarlet's destiny has always been to be powercreeped because of her self-damage mechanic

[jovial fog]

Also like

Scar mid

[plush flare]

ye

she is mid

[jovial fog]

I called this 10 months ago

[opaque burrow]

110 pulls, only 2 XLud, sigh...

[rose swallow]

Same reason why Guillotine is still often benched despite being quite strong now

and with SR bosses leaning towards targeting highest ATK, that makes Scarlet even worse

[plush flare]

is ludmilla 1-1 with rh?

[jovial fog]

No

She's 1-1 with mod

[river pelican]

we just need one good taunt gal. Poor noise is carrying that brat on her back for an entire year

[jovial fog]

Tia

[plush flare]

nerf rh

27,8% was good

[wide dawn]

[rose swallow]

Ludmilla is 3rd place in advantageous conditions, 4th in poor conditions, essentially, switching with Mod

[remote inlet]

your own scar is actually mid

[jovial fog]

Mf just came to berate me

I didn't get scar till ch20 so

Yeah

Not needed

[rose swallow]

Yeah, my alt didn't get her until around that point, too

Was actually fun playing the campaign without Scarlet

Speaking of campaign, anyone using X Ludmilla in it?

I haven't tried her out there yet

I feel like she won't be as useful since she seems pretty single-target

[jovial fog]

No one has her that built yet

I guess

[rose swallow]

Kisenix has her 10/7/7 and with full OLs, no?

[wide dawn]

mine is on 10-7-7 too

but thats because I'm out of blue books for both

[rose swallow]

Ah, 10/5/5

I could use skill mat crates, but I'm not sure I'm motivated enough

She's so obviously powerful that I can't be bothered to argue with people calling her mid

[river pelican]

Fresh off the oven https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lC3L744Q-t4

[opaque burrow]

I try to get her at least to 2* just for slightly stats buff xD

3* for the horny lobby screen

[wide dawn]

I mean

[rose swallow]

What's funny about looking at those close damage values

[wide dawn]

its roughly 2% per dupe

[rose swallow]

It's actually deceptive

cuz X Ludmilla is enabling Modernia and Guillotine to deal more damage

[wide dawn]

all 3 of them dealing more dmg

the point is to see how close they are to eachother

[rose swallow]

Mhm, but for people arguing whether she's a weak or strong unit

She has insane value even outside of her personal DPS

[remote inlet]

u will likely use her in heavy rapture stage with shield and shiet, while u need like 2 mg and scarlet not doing well together with modernia, 19-15 is an example

[rose swallow]

I lucked out and got an 81.26% Max Ammo roll on her first thing, so gonna see how easy it is to get unlimited ammo with that

[rose swallow]

Ah right, Ch 19 is a thing

Not that far in Hard Campaign yet cuz I've been too busy recently

[ivory gulch]

damn i did 30 pulls got depreseed

holy shit idk how i got 2 winter anne back to back

[blazing sand]

Was about to at only getting 2 XRupee in 60 but I got her on the next multi at least. Just gotta figure out if XAnne is still useful for PvP and probably ticket her.

[strong seal]

he speaks terrible french

[strong seal]

gogogogogogo
Xanne is good for pvp, like really good
who cares about 60s burst cd there, the other team should be dead by getting wiped by xanne+scarlet

[rose swallow]

Scarlet bursts

[dire oracle]

Xanne just get fixed might actually can counter healing team as intended. But i can get away without having her for a year. I won’t ticket it.

[rose swallow]

Luckily I got her already. Haven't managed an X Rupee yet, but I'll be getting at least one more copy of Ludmilla, so she'll probably spook me.

(and/or on Mica's banner)

[wide dawn]

I got her on the first multi but I'm itching to pull something

can ny come faster

[slim turret]

Is she useable without noir?

[rose swallow]

Yeah

You'll just need Max Ammo rolls if you want unlimited ammo

[slim turret]

How many?

[rose swallow]

Not sure of the math of how many tho

Speaking of which, lemme go test

[slim turret]

My noir is cosplaying as an mlb blanc rn

[rose swallow]

Mine has 81.26% atm with level 7 Bastion

Er, wrong account...

This account has 68.93%. I'll test it first

[wide dawn]

130% ish reloads on burst with resi

you want her to be on jk team probably too

3 ol is infinite ammo with bastion7 I think

[rose swallow]

23 seconds at level 6 S1, 68.93% Max Ammo, and level 7 Bastion

[remote terrace]

Priv?

[rose swallow]

I used too much gear exp & rocks on Product 12 last week on this account

[wide dawn]

no

[remote terrace]

No.

[wide dawn]

burst+resi enough

[remote terrace]

Well, can, but no.

[rose swallow]

Alice and RH still have dibs on bunnies and JKs

[remote terrace]

Half of her damage cannot core hit.

So wasted.

[wide dawn]

jk will be xlud rh and bunnies will be alice mod

[remote terrace]

It will be RH Alice

A2 Mod next.

Maybe not A2.

[rose swallow]

A2 will probably do well vs Chatterbox

[wide dawn]

xlud will be on jk because she has the dmg amp debuff jk lacks

she also buffs the prime dps

named RED HOOD

[rose swallow]

Although depends on if SR Chatterbox is like UR Chatterbox (no breakable core)

[wide dawn]

best gain will be there

[remote terrace]

Doro also lacks that.

[wide dawn]

doro can eat shit

[remote terrace]

And anything that's not Blanc lacks that.

[wide dawn]

[remote terrace]

No, it wouldn't be with JK.

Well you can.

But RH wants Alice.

[wide dawn]

I wish the alice bug didn't happen

we would have seen it faster

[remote terrace]

RH dmg goes up by 12% just with Alice.

But you might be right.

[wide dawn]

dead unit

[strong seal]

Not bad for 5/5/6 and lower power than liter lol

[remote terrace]

Not against pierce

[wide dawn]

obv its a undergeared nikke here

she matches noir with 400 level diff with gear

[strong seal]

Yeah ofc she not going to do well against a 10/7/6 core3 Noir with full ol lol

[wide dawn]

she matched noir after it went a bit longer

in the sskys stream

[rose swallow]

Level 6 S1, Level 7 Bastion, 81.26% Max Ammo gives around 30 seconds of uptime

not willing to spend more skill crates atm since solo raid got delayed

[remote terrace]

Weird

Right Side: Manual Ludmilla + Resilience

Left Side: Auto Ludmilla + Bastion

[plush flare]

neutral element?

[remote terrace]

Auto Ludmilla + Bastion.

Manual Ludmilla, non Optimal run, Bastion. Element advantage + 23.56% OL.

[slim turret]

Quency

Oh its lvl 1 i see now

[remote terrace]

JK is her best team but who knows.

Even with Bastion.

[plush flare]

mast instead of quency?

[remote terrace]

Higher FPS.

Somewhat.

DMG goes up by 40m.

[plush flare]

well you know, jks are core hit more dmg team

[winter marten]

What is good skill lv on Lud? 10 7 7?

[plush flare]

[remote terrace]

Jsut so you know

Half of Lud's dmg cannot corehit

[plush flare]

mmmmm

interesting

[wide dawn]

DUDE MY YOUTUBE RECOMMENDATIONS ARE ON FIRE

[plush flare]

meh she doesnt power creep rh

[wide dawn]

he read the skills and said without seing number not sure but looks like skip

my man numbers are in front of you

[wide dawn]

you just read them

[remote terrace]

She deals more damage with Maxwell.

But you sabotage the team, potentially.

Might see this one more on Raid.

[plush flare]

ok but what is the best team with gals now?

[remote terrace]

RH will probably move to T1 with Mod.

[plush flare]

rh mxwll?

[remote terrace]

Nothing.

Except solo Alice and Mod.

[plush flare]

is T1 bunnies?

[wide dawn]

t1 is the jk

[remote terrace]

T1 is JK.

To be fair.

But people call T1 Blanc Noir.

[plush flare]

oh tiga

[remote terrace]

T2 JK.

It's not power ranking.

It's team order.

[plush flare]

for now rh is the better choice in gals team...

[remote terrace]

Not really.

[plush flare]

i know, not inb this solo raid

cuz water weak

[remote terrace]

Gals team works with everyone.

Except Mod and solo Alice.

[winter marten]

What is up with discord, can't see pinned comment anymore

[remote terrace]

Alice can only go with RH.

[plush flare]

cuz alice buff?

[sturdy nymph]

Did you update? Cuz they forcing new UI now

[wide dawn]

wtf

new ui on phone is so shit

why did they do this to us

[winter marten]

See it now, yeah new UI is not better. More steps

[wide dawn]

so where is the pins

I still can't find it on phone

ITS UNDER the SETTINGS

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[winter marten]

Yeah

[waxen meadow]

Haven't seen research this active since Red Hood.

[sturdy nymph]

Yeah it's garbage. You could opt out of it before, but the new update removed that option

[remote terrace]

What if its Doro Novel RH Alice Priv

[plush flare]

mmmmm

I'm poor, I can't run

[slim turret]

💀

[plush flare]

Imma novel less

Boys new discord in mobile is killing me

[remote terrace]

Novelles

[plush flare]

[slim turret]

Does it not let you use old versions of discord?

[plush flare]

It was my error spent just in skins

[fluid furnace]

My last 3k

[slim turret]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1057518115149328445.webp?size=48

[plush flare]

Ban

[fluid furnace]

[agile jackal]

What's Ludmilla skill priority?

[remote terrace]

Where the fuck is search button

Can someone search my msg here with 96.89?

Cus mobile discord is shit

[ivory brook]

dont see anything from you in the search

[remote terrace]

Hmm

[ivory brook]

i only get this

[remote terrace]

Try =>

[fluid furnace]

Found this one #1181779382956724224 message

[ivory brook]

nothing

[remote terrace]

Sus

Here

Typoed

Thanks for helping tho

Even if I scrolled

Level 5 is frame perfect.

Level 6 is the same as SAnis + Resilience.

Level 7 should be easily doable.
Level 8+ is very easy.

I'm referring to shooting after reload finishes immediately (aka frame perfect) to avoid wind down.

Now, Bastion or Resil? Hard to say.

Every frame perfect reload that's not instant still costs around 0.5-1 second of DPS, and you are to reload 12 times => 6-12 seconds loss.

Bastion is to reload 5 times => 20+ seconds loss.

Perfect Bastion is still to reload 5 times => 10-12.5 seconds loss.

[remote inlet]

just slap on what u have and play the game

[remote terrace]

110% reload = 12 frames, according to Gatrix.

100% reload = 22 frames.

Here's the thing.

Anything beyond 22 frames is a waste, if you don't reach 110%.

22 frames = 0.3667

In other words....

Level 7 is the best investment.

[plush flare]

10/5-7/7?

[agile jackal]

for skill?

i thought burst will be 10

[remote terrace]

Nah, need confirmation from Gatrix.

Anything beyond 7 is a waste imo.

But you decide.

[agile jackal]

7/7/7 then?

[remote terrace]

No, Im asking Gatrix.

If the 22 frames include reload or no

If no, then 100% reload speed is still ok

But I suggest save burst manuals

[agile jackal]

Hmm i see
Skill 1 is the best one in her kit, right?

[remote terrace]

You will notice significant dmg diff tho

Due to well

Atk buff

I personally cant

Because I hyperinvested in Tove

[plush flare]

Gatrix math calculator?

[steady bison]

I like it

Ah it was scrolled up

[flint reef]

I am hesitating between working on Alice or Ludmillia both have 0 skills invested. I almost finished RH/Modernia. Gears are still a pain to obtain too

[ivory brook]

I’d say Alice takes priority but if you have red hood you can justify holding off

[flint reef]

I know that Alice is high investment to shine with also OL gears so I think I will 5/5/5 Ludmilla for now and really hope they will work asap on upgrading the amount of skills in the future

A selective manufacturer box will be very welcome too, tired to get mostly abnormal gears

[kind sail]

i would just 4/4/4 or 5/4/5 as a start for ludmilla and full OL first

she's usable without needing max skills unlike alice

and try and get 2 ammo lines

[ivory brook]

i recommend alice because shes really strong in also pushing story content

so if you hiut a wall alice is more likely to push you over a wall than ludmilla would cause of energy generation

[indigo silo]

alice can be used in pvp

pick alice

[neat hearth]

am i missing something? my lud sl1 is 10 and noir sl2 is 9 but my lud still doesnt shoot infinite according to chart

[kind sail]

i mean alice is only strong once you're 10/4/10 and you have to get good OL lines

he can do a partial investment into ludmilla and while he's doing that he can stock up mats when he goes to alice

10/4/10 is like the bare minimum for alice and she's not even close to being full potential

get ludmilla partially built first that way you have a strong dps to hold you over until alice is fully built

[pseudo crow]

i think both are solid choices, ludmillia is definitely going to be easier to build than alice, my alice took quite a while i was so unlucky with rolls

and im technically still not finished because my max ammo could be better

[neat hearth]

@slate ore

[pseudo crow]

also im not sure how much you auto actaiser but i believe from charts that ludmillia should be stronger than auto alice, maybe something to keep in mind

[kind sail]

how many ammo lines you got?

and what are the values on them

[neat hearth]

0

[kind sail]

yeah thats a big part why

most ppl are saying to roughly get two 68% ammo lines

at least

[neat hearth]

i see

that makes more sense then

thought the chart implied you dont need ammo lines

[flint reef]

That's the issue with Alice very strong but high investment anyway I still need to work on many units and custom modules are too much rare

[mighty schooner]

So is the team to go bunnies lud red and mod?

[kind sail]

i don't think it's mathematically possible to infinite fire with base 300 ammo

[flint reef]

@ivory brook @kind sail @pseudo crow thanks

[kind sail]

i keep seeing tia/naga is a better choice with ludmilla

since blanc already has damage increase on enemies debuff

tia naga lacks that

[ivory brook]

at her strongest at 10410

[mighty schooner]

ok i was wondering i saw it mentioned a bunch didn’t know who then finallly went with thx @kind sail

[ivory brook]

still sstrong while working on the investment

[gritty yew]

https://tenor.com/view/wow-surprised-face-little-boss-gif-alisa-gif-16133616529628653686

[kind sail]

10/4/10 by itself with 6 base ammo isn't anything to write home about

lol

half of alice's power is from good OL rolls

[pseudo crow]

shes still not bad like that but yeah i mean makes a difference if u build her more, for me the main difference in dps was when i managed to hit the charge speed goal

[ivory brook]

wehen youre pushinmg story its better than the alternatives especially the hard stages

[pseudo crow]

hes right about that if u will use her for story shes probably gonna be better at pushing than lud

[ivory brook]

obviously you want everything with alice but in the context of story pushing you can make it work

not ideal, but gotta work w/ what you got

[kind sail]

depending how much ammo rolls you got on alice you're wasting so much time reloading during burst

[ivory brook]

that matters but iuts also story content

can run privaty if its a msjor issue

[kind sail]

also the charge speed matters

[ivory brook]

charge speed matters less in story for energgy

[rocky sonnet]

Failed to get her using tickets and gems. Is it worth getting her via mileage?

[kind sail]

it matters the more you push actually lol

when enemies start chunking your health

[ivory brook]

and the later yo uget

[pseudo crow]

id probably wait until later on and see whats coming next unless u got plenty tickets

[ivory brook]

the more investment you shouldd have

my logic is this

lets say you're running liter bunnies and a flex b3

and you're pushign a hard stage

[rocky sonnet]

Okay then

[ivory brook]

which nikke, at w/e investment, is going to help you push past a stage faster

ludmilla or alice?

i say alice cause, even at unoptimal investment

at the very least she provides energy to get you into your first burst rotation

while if you rand like ludmilla + modernia

you're probalby not getting past taht stage regardless

[kind sail]

i mean the whole conversation was to suggest he just put minimal investment into ludmilla like 5/4/5

and while he builds lud he can stockpile mats for alice

[ivory brook]

but if you ran alice modernia, even at unoptimal investment then alice pushes you further

[kind sail]

well he never stated he had modernia

or mentioned

[ivory brook]

im saying moidernia as the flex

im assumign he doesn't have modernia

[kind sail]

i just assumed based on his question he had no mod

[ivory brook]

but i just mentioned her cause low energy generation

you could slide anyone into that slot besides like a centi and the issue remains the same

[flint reef]

This is what I will do I suppose that Alice will be more helpfull for hard stages

[ivory brook]

im just saying, even with unoptimal investment I think alice pushes you further in story htan xlud

both are great units though

[flint reef]

I need to get more gears and modules

[kind sail]

thats not the point i was making but okay

im suggesting to get a usable dps like lud with minimal investment

and while he uses that just stockpile mats for alice

instead of leaving lud at 1/1/1 and collecting dust

he can have something usable with little resources used

[ivory brook]

you can put her at 444 easily

but i only disagreed with the sentiment that alice needed to be 10410 t obe useful which is why i said in response "she's at her strongest at 10410"

[kind sail]

sure

[ivory brook]

you're correct in every other content though and i agree

i just ahd a minor disagreement there in terms of story pushing

[remote inlet]

lud, cuz alice not only requires ol but you need nice ol lines too, lud can work wonder with half of what alice needs on ol lines quality

[flint reef]

yes sure Alice is a long term investment

[plain rain]

do you have lvl7 bastion

[neat hearth]

yes

[flint reef]

I will invest the bare minimum on Ludmila for now and maybe until I am able to fully build Alice they will release a stronger unit lol

[neat hearth]

i do

[plain rain]

did you equip it I mean

cuz it assumes you do

[neat hearth]

she can shoot for 2 full burst rotations before having to reload

i did

[kind sail]

pretty sure ppl have managed to make her fire for 3 mins straight

[neat hearth]

just no ammo lines like i said earlier

[kind sail]

or at the very least 2mins or something

[plain rain]

pretty sure the graph assumed 0 ammo lines

[kind sail]

a lot of that depends on your ammo lines

[neat hearth]

so which is it

you both just said different things