just makes you feel bad about investing into her s2 since it's mostly worthless with tove around
#[Tove] New Unit Megathread
nimble moth
obsidian harness
Assuming
- 4 t10 hitrate: 44.44%
- modernia s2lvl10: 8.56%
- hitrate cube lvl3: 3.81%
- Noir burst lvl7: ||12.03%+||10.03%
- Sugar burst lvl7: 28.5%
We get: 95.34% in the usual investments
Without really really overspending
Which I think is not unreasonable
lucid warren
Which I think is not unreasonable
unreasonable to butcher bunnies comp for a sugar
random rose
hit rate ammo buffer for Christmas trust
just copy paste noir kit onto Christmas limiteds, make her water add CDR instead of attack buff , insane stonks
lucid warren
they stil need a cdr, hit rate buffer, some healing ability, if christmas has all 3
obsidian harness
unreasonable to butcher bunnies comp for a sugar
Oh yea
You should never run sugar with bunnies, that's a given
Not to mention no cdr in the team with tove
This is just hitrate research
strange shell
This should help.
obsidian harness
This should help.
obsidian harness
This should help.
Wonder how the fuck this maths works like
frozen pike
Is this from Jackass?
obsidian harness
nimble moth
oh, a post nerf hit rate comparison, nice
gray meadow
oh, a post nerf hit rate comparison, nice
Nerf? What nerf?
nimble moth
hit rate got nerfed a (long?) while back, hadn't seen a post nerf comparison until now. this was what it was pre nerf https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1108745639090733127/1111115711725719723/Sem_titulo.png
icy root
Have numbers for a whole fight by chance?
open sphinx
this seem good ngl, being close to mod in the bunnies is decent
icy root
I'm curious how much Sugar does when she's not bursting here.
icy root
I can't accurately test it myself since my sugar isn't built, but my crappy Sugar does roughly the same damage during the 30s she's not bursting as she does during burst.
So wondering how much that changes when she's built.
icy root
Well the guy that posted that video does 😂
Idk if the person that posted it here is the person that owns the account though
open sphinx
the reason is the gains are super low on skill levels
maybe the math changed with tove
icy root
Yeah she has weird break points on her burst
open sphinx
but I assume most dmg happens with the ol's
obsidian harness
this seem good ngl, being close to mod in the bunnies is decent
The problems with the team comp are too much
Remember that this modernia is being gimped cuz no liter+no cdr
It's the ideal sugar team, sure
But overall gimping damage insanely
Over 3 or 5 teams
Please never run this
It's just a hitrate showcase
open sphinx
No cdr doesn't effect the dps showcase
What this showcase means is sg team is 1 more good unit away from being pretty decent
That 1 unit should include cdr tho
obsidian harness
What this showcase means is sg team is 1 more good unit away from being pretty d...
I wouldn't put it like that at all
CDR is insanely useful
Not to mention that this modernia wasnt even getting buffs from tove, and look at the CP diff btw, 74k sugar, 64k modernia
And modernia still wins, which means sugar has no place here.
This is sugars best team and she still can't beat a less invested modernia
Which means modernia gets to keep the place, and sugar is kicked out
No 100% hitrate shenanigans are viable for now
This is purely a showcase for how hitrate works
Not how good tove is
random rose
S1 increase Hit Rate by 30% per shotgun on the team increase Ammo Capacity Per by 20% per Shotgun on the team
S2 CDR
Burst : Transform To Machine gun
quick get the misinformation chef to type this like SU would and spread it on Reddit
hard crown
still no mention about the 5%-8% chance of stack dropping at skill 1 level 10 in nikke.gg guide.
misinfo is already being spread
obsidian harness
Sj wrote this guide while sick 
He's excused
hard crown
Hope he gets better soon.
open sphinx
I wouldn't put it like that at all
CDR is insanely useful
Not to mention that t...
what I mean is that cdr doesn't matter between sugar and mod dps numbers on a vacuum, because mod doesn't burst either way and sugar also loses the dps buffs
I agree on cdr being more dps but even they had cdr they would be this close
obsidian harness
It matters because the more often you burst, the less modernia reloads
Not to mention that there is ammo synergy with liter+noir which modernia needs.
Modernia loses a ton of damage if you do not burst enough.
Mod doesn't burst but she needs as much bursts as possible
open sphinx
so mod doesn't get enough ammo without cdr
hmm
I wonder how much dps diff does it make
marsh basin
misinfo is already being spread
marsh basin
I wonder how much dps diff does it make
a lot
tired cradle
still no mention about the 5%-8% chance of stack dropping at skill 1 level 10 in...
Mentioned in Prydwen
Should be posted later
spice storm
hard crown
Thanks for the guide
hearty silo
This should help.
Sweet, 115% to turn SGs into snipers 
obsidian harness
Sweet, 115% to turn SGs into snipers <:KEKL:1008348072637636648>
113 is sniper like
exotic pulsar
113 is sniper like
does it unlock sugar and tove bond 100 segs scene tho
tbh we are most here for the coom, if they release a niche or mid character we should at least some extra bonding experience to compensate
torn ingot
tbh we are most here for the coom, if they release a niche or mid character we s...
Loli character with the shittiest kit known to mankind.
You happy now?
exotic pulsar
Loli character with the shittiest kit known to mankind.
You happy now?
i dont like loli
what a weird person
exotic pulsar
exotic pulsar
https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-fish-looking-phone-disappointment-gif-23326574
bruh my pfp is the clue
dont you dare call scarlet loli
torn ingot
Tiny
zinc epoch
Is there anywhere with Tove advise answers? The place I usually check still doesn't have them
marsh basin
Is there anywhere with Tove advise answers? The place I usually check still does...
@urban relic do u still update dotgg
obsidian harness
<@125013872074686464> do u still update dotgg
Yes but not the monsters page
urban relic
<@125013872074686464> do u still update dotgg
ya sup
usually just nikke.gg/characters
i can update dotgg.gg/nikke if u want it
oh
advice answers is on dotgg as well, my bad
let me update it then
drowsy scroll
let me update it then
I didn't pull tove, that's why I haven't bothered you about it
urban relic
https://nikke.gg/advise/ most ppl prefer dotgg tho
drowsy scroll
no tove yet
random rose
You Fraudsters
plain fiber
shit bros, looks like I'm gonna have to skip Tove and wishlist her
RH banner took its toll and limiteds are on their way... surely they wouldn't release meta shotgunner
r-righ?
past kite
shouldnt have spent so much on RH
distant tartan
$$$
gentle widgetBOT
cobalt arch
Tove mica dolla/guilty sugar drake will be a solid team?
drowsy scroll
you really think the kit leak is legit or something
open sphinx
which one
oh mica
I mean its not unrealisteic
compared to fire lud they tried to bait with
exotic pulsar
Second is more weird which is similar to what shiftuo do best
sharp igloo
hearty silo
Believing in the leaks will backfire someday, with ease
So we have no choice but to disbelieve all of the leaks
We already know Tove is a meta B1 for shotgun squad in need of an actual shotgun squad composed of Nikkes that fill in what Tove’s missing. Cooldown reduction, and actually using a shotgun with meta-carry-damage results
Without those members, Tove is twiddling her thumbs in her little igloo by the frozen-over bench
They could show up next banner as limited Nikkes for Xmas, or they could show up in January, or they could show up as part of some crazy collab (One Punch Man collab please), or they could only show up in the 2nd Anniversary No one but ShiftUp knows
Remember the leak where Red Hood was going to be up for Silver Mileage? 
opaque palm
im cooking kits cuz regardless of the kit of the units, we can test in shoothing range, only reliable info is people actually making specific builds with confirmed test and do it yourself after them
this isnt mihoyo games where youre locked in a set team and cant make proper builds to see who makes the new unit shine or which unit you own shines brighter thanks to the new unit
exotic pulsar
I wish they release info soon so i can decide whether to pull tove or not
hearty silo
New Ludmila is a machine gun user
random rose
inb4 transform to SG
opal flicker
umbral acorn
if I need to pick between drake or sugar which one will perform better for Tove team?
i am thinking o Tove, Dolla, Helm, Guilty and either Sugar or Drake
or should i drop guilty instead lol
strange shell
guilty is literally mandatory
obsidian harness
Mf gone drop 1 of the 2 ok SGs
hearty silo
or should i drop guilty instead lol
Tove, Guilty, Dolla, Sugar, Drake. Your best bet on a shotgun dream team, and it still has problems… if you’re crazy enough, you can try inserting an invested Isabel in there, but most of us are just waiting for a new Nikke to catalyze things for Tove
Its problems:
Shotgun range issues
So much burst generation and not enough cooldown reduction for it
No healing
No cover repair
Very inflexible, forced to invest in Tove to only help shotgun Nikkes
umbral acorn
Tove, Guilty, Dolla, Sugar, Drake. Your best bet on a shotgun dream team, and it...
i see, so helm is for healing but sacrifice a lot of damage then..
yeah tove looks very hard to utilize ahaha
obsidian harness
i see, so helm is for healing but sacrifice a lot of damage then..
yeah tove lo...
You use helm over drake
But yeah
Tove is hard to fit in for now
hearty silo
What’s the reason for Helm over Drake? More overall damage?
I’d have thought Drake proccing more often would win since Drake would be massively buffed by Tove
obsidian harness
What’s the reason for Helm over Drake? More overall damage?
Introducing heals
You can't make a team with no heals
For anything really
tired cradle
Tove, Guilty, Dolla, Sugar, Drake. Your best bet on a shotgun dream team, and it...
No need Dolla
Iirc someone found out dmg div from bringing Dolla and bringing another SG is the same
So Marciana is best but I dont have
hearty silo
Ah, that’s pretty nice
Maybe Tove, Guilty, Isabel, Sugar, Drake? Is it a gain with Isabel?
If not then fine with Marcianna
Or even Naga
flint summit
Isabel is not a good idea if no CDR
since she reduce full burst time = less time having big damage
flint summit
I have her to thank for my intercept S gravedigger kills
tired cradle
Or even Naga
The fuck why would u split Naga and Tia
Dont tell me
Ure planning to run
Tiga Tove + 2 SG
open sphinx
hearty silo
The fuck why would u split Naga and Tia
Happens to some commanders, I certainly wouldn’t though
I’m randomly cooking possibilities, so you’re bound to see weird or kitchen sink compositions that’d only make sense if someone had a roster with holes like not having Tia or Blanc
Though this cook session didn’t last long, RIP. Not much viability with Tove
open sphinx
Guilty keeping the Tove buff on herself and noir with the buff stack extension is so niche wtf
tired cradle
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/1lH1xlqMPvb9YiOv47z4sBg4240SFZ30gUfzh...
Apparently its some rounding
@marsh basin hang the fuck on
I tested Rupee didnt refresh Tove
Guilty does
Like what the fuck
You can run like
Bro IM 100% SURE RUPEE DIDNT REFRESH BURST THO
Is this coop bug?
tired cradle
Ah no wonder I spedrun Mod intercept with Guilty and shotguns
Maybe thats why?
So Pepper works
Technically
Lmao
Something like
Tove Guilty x x Pepper
Well rip CDR
Wait
Wjo the fucks need CDR if burst is permanent
Ok time to invest in Pepper and Guilty bois
Ok thats new cooking
Since the HARD CAP = S1 stacks
Using Pepper will help stack better
Literally just run Tove burst then Pepper for healing and restack
Need max ammo OL for Tove
Ideally Pepper should be OLed and given attack too
Now you dont need CDR
Your 2 DPS will be your BEST B3 unit
One of them should have the highest attack (so Guilty can copy). Anything, highest cores. Most invested.
Well technically you can still use Tove's burst hmm
tired cradle
Its gay tech
It kinda solidifies Guilty in the team
U dont need Pepper
I think Helm's better
Well nvm apparently Tove still needs to burst
So
hearty silo
this is like a tribal cooks gathering for the ritual of making the fire blaze hotter and bigger
hard crown
not every cook is meant to make edible food ig
hearty silo
Tove cook produced well done steak
distant tartan
Tove cook produced well done steak
that's a good thing in monster hunter
hearty silo
Shocker, next new Nikke isn’t for Shotgun squad
umbral acorn
XMica is cooking for Tove?
exotic pulsar
Copium at best
If you need 2 b1 and not comparable to jk or bunny comp's benefits then its very bad
Team 5 sr at best
open sphinx
If you need 2 b1 and not comparable to jk or bunny comp's benefits then its very...
ah yes jk where we use 2 b1's
open sphinx
my point is tove mica is good but we need a sg that can use that buffs like sanis
but works with more ammo
that team is 1 good dps away from top 5
exotic pulsar
I pull tove but she no good enough so i pull xmica but wait no b3 is good enough . SU gib a new meta sg b3 plssssss
open sphinx
thats the cope
the 2 b1 is bad
is the worst argument
argue that there is no sg b3 thats good
exotic pulsar
You cant made an argument when you need legit to invent a new team that dont exist yet
frozen olive
What's the verdict for Tove? I read the pins and didn't get it.
open sphinx
needs 1 unit to be good
exotic pulsar
Dont pull if you aint rich
open sphinx
we don't know if we ever get it
frail ridge
Inb4 new year pilgrim gonna be sg
exotic pulsar
Inb4 new year pilgrim gonna be sg
Na
open sphinx
thats our cope
exotic pulsar
is the worst argument
?????? Thats wishful thinking on steroids to come that conclusion
No cdr or healer
2b1 has some 50% synergy
Since all wants to burst
There are only 5 slots
B123 dont matter whatever
If the benefits <existing ones then its wishful thinking
open sphinx
when you mica
tove wants to burst once
thats it
you use b2 cdr and b3 healer
all you want 1 dps sg
exotic pulsar
Not usable in hard campaign
exotic pulsar
Then why cope
exotic pulsar
Hard campaign legit only thing you should care
exotic pulsar
Its not 1 team only in hard campaign
But whatever
You can't argue with a coper
Just like how tim coping all the way through his rh pulling stream
Also its dejavu all over again
How many time we said wait for the meta to come xyz
But instead they get replaced with something entirely diff or better
No one is gonna refund those tickets you wasted
Dont cope or kid yourself it mislead you and everyone else when tcing
tired cradle
Future meta
Its hard to say tbf
exotic pulsar
Well dont act like its not going in standard pool
We gonna getvit soon or later
And i pulled tove
Peeps should just all in on xlud
With their xmas banner budget
cobalt arch
this effect can stack 3 times ?
yes
dark widget
tove mica sounds like ur using alot of slots esp considering no cdr sg
ur basically forced into choosing 1. guilty dmg, 2. marciana healer or 3. b2 cdr with no huge sg carry yet
tired cradle
ur basically forced into choosing 1. guilty dmg, 2. marciana healer or 3. b2 cdr...
Its not SG carry
The SGs are weaker
But their supports are much stronger
dark widget
yea but ur getting less and less targets to support when putting tove xmica right
like ur down 2 slots, +1 b2 that u have to choose
and b3 has to be sg dps
tired cradle
Tove is like 30% atk spd boost, which should be 0.25 TDM (due to reload), and then you also have the Burst, which should be 0.7 TDM, and then there is Max Ammo and shit.
dark widget
so ur buff target is 2sg + 1 b2(if ur not using cdr)
tired cradle
yea but ur getting less and less targets to support when putting tove xmica righ...
You know Tove's biggest problem is stack being not consistent.
dark widget
yes
tired cradle
If you have invested Tove and run multiple times against Modernia SI, you will see how inconsistent she is.
dark widget
but its a problem when u can buff the whole team
when ur getting less and less target ur buff is worth less
tired cradle
You wait 10s+ between Burst sometimes, and you can even go 10s without any stacks.
This is a big loss of damage.
Since now your Burst buff uptime is less than 50%.
And the attack speed does not activate.
Mica is supposed to take over one of those SGs, while making sure the uptime is as high as it can be (permanent ATK buff at minimum 1 stack) and nearly permanent ATK spd buff.
However, I am expecting them to release a B2/B3 CDR SG soon in a few months.
So both of them are still sleeper units.
Not their time to shine yet.
I expect Nayuta to be the key.
Most likely Half-Anniv.
dark widget
yea like atm if i think its too slot heavy
tove+mica = b1 and subslot only to enable tove
tired cradle
yea like atm if i think its too slot heavy
Not slot heavy.
Tia Naga are also heavy.
tired cradle
The last B1 is just CDR that does nothing.
dark widget
on burst no?
tired cradle
And Max Ammo.
dark widget
tove is bursting
tired cradle
on burst no?
Oh, wait...
tired cradle
tove is bursting
7.30
Tove does not Burst, unless the stack count of ATK buff is 1.
dark widget
wym stack count of atk buff is 1?
tired cradle
wym stack count of atk buff is 1? <:think:773560053969321985>
Stack refresh resets ATK buff duration.
So Tove does not need to Burst anymore.
Only once.
However, the stacks of ATK buff are hardcapped by Tove's S1 stack, with minimum 1.
So if she loses S1 stacks,
Everyone will have 1 stack of ATK buff.
open sphinx
at least mica gives stack count to tove s1 too so it kinda helps a bit too, I swear just 1 good solo sg carry 
dark widget
tired cradle
Mica is supposed to make the S1 more consistent and apply ATK buff permanently.
In other words, if you RNG a bit,
Your SG will have literally 66% ATK BUFF and 30% ATK SPD the whole game.
- 5s every Burst.
- 40% Max Ammo.
- 6 Max Ammo.
- -Damage Taken?
dark widget
i think that makes it alot more worthy if u can maintain tove without her bursting
tired cradle
i think that makes it alot more worthy if u can maintain tove without her bursti...
Yes.
That's why.
CDR only helps you get 3-5s of more Burst time per rotation.
But if u dont need heal, just rock Dolla.
The damage diff shouldn't be that different.
If you use Marciana*
nimble moth
hm 150 shots, so that's what like 9s or so between stack freshes at base? with more ammo lines it'd get closer to the minimum of 7.5s
so still room for tove to drop stacks, but lower chance
how much lower I couldn't really say, guessing a bit more than half
but would need someone to monte carlo it again to really find the answer
nimble moth
the diff between 7.5s and 9s isn't the worst, probably
she does look like she's usable at probably even 111 to support tove
unless they do a 🖕 again and make the numbers on black lines increase with level
which is good since everyone gonna be busy dumping books into xlud 
umbral acorn
RIP tove refresh stacks
hearty silo
That was fast
frail ridge
I think it's some unrelated bug
winged pebble
I pull tove but she no good enough so i pull xmica but wait no b3 is good enough...
Simply make isabel function as a unit
https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/892621214063919164.webp?size=48
tired cradle
Change that Helm to 2B
Done
Let 2B tank
E
But 2B can tank
Nothing beats 4 DPS
Tove Guilty 2B Scarlet Pepper
While what Pepper does is deal subdps
blazing plover
Solo raid chatter box
my Tove 9/10/10
obsidian harness
Solo raid chatter box
my Tove 9/10/10
Why not viper over poli?
open sphinx
maybe they needed to poli shield for the jumps
obsidian harness
maybe they needed to poli shield for the jumps
Viper can allow for a no heal run
If u time her burst, she has invincibility for 1second
open sphinx
too much timing maybe idk
obsidian harness
Solo raid chatter box
my Tove 9/10/10
Oh wow, this is actually the highest tove damage team
Highest in overall top 50 is
Tove guilty viper sugar drake
With 960mil
blazing plover
Why not viper over poli?
Viper has gone with Team Biscuit and Poli can buff damage to destroy Chatter box parts.
tired cradle
Solo raid chatter box
my Tove 9/10/10
Wait this works?
BRO U SHUD HAVE TOLD ME EARLIER
FUCK U
@obsidian harness FUCK U TOO
IM JUST 5 RANKS AWAY FROM 300 GEMS AWAY
AGHHHHHHHH
tired cradle
Solo raid chatter box
my Tove 9/10/10
How can u break missiles?
U shoot them?
No way
tired cradle
Viper has gone with Team Biscuit and Poli can buff damage to destroy Chatter box...
Oh
Fuck
Yeah
I lost 300m dmg
Gg
My 300 gems
I SHUD HAVE MALDED MORE AND TRIED THAT POLI STRAT, I ACTUALLY THOT ABOUT IT
I EVEN SAID LIKE: im gonna try Quency for Biscuit
hearty silo
Solo raid chatter box
my Tove 9/10/10
Pretty damn good for Chatterbox SR, with all the top 100 coping with 1b dmg from Snow White - if they even get to 1b dmg
drowsy scroll
blazing plover
How can u break missiles?
❌ break missiles.
✅ break Chatter box parts. 
obsidian harness
<@390152688605593603> FUCK U TOO
Bro
This guy has the biggest damage out of any tove team in the world for past raid
But he was out of top 50, so we never saw this team
marsh basin
Int comp by running midca and tove
hearty silo
What’s worse, Kisenix is going to discover that it was another Intern-kun fakeout
Can his heart take it?
marsh basin
Wat did he post
hearty silo
Leona kit, lvl1 values
marsh basin
hearty silo
He was gloating that perhaps his Tove investment was a masterstroke, I think
marsh basin
Wake me up when moran kit drops
hearty silo
Hmm Moran is Tetra
We don’t talk about new Tetra Nikkes anymore until they fix the imbalance 
tired cradle
Found out SG team is more dependent on the number of SG units in team, which therefore causes a problem.
If Tove and that girl are to be paired, I highly doubt 2 SG can win over 3 SG.
Which makes me believe they will release an actual SG DPS B3 unit soon.
Seeing Tove and her be Water, I think the next B3 DPS SG will also be Water.
I only could think of Liberalio.
Which could either be Lightning or Water.
That would complete my Tove team.
blazing plover
about 300-500m less than meta team. 
tired cradle
https://youtu.be/bRsEojqKRHg
that Guilty is not invested
tho
nvm
MAX OL Sugar
MAX Core
now use SAnis for fun
strange shell
get this, SG dps with CDR
frozen pike
For these slots, do I still have to reroll to get max ammo?
safe vale
My tove has 100 ammo and she had a streak of 100 shots not proccing s1 once
4%
Nah, i dont think ammo is the problem
Malding is
tired cradle
For these slots, do I still have to reroll to get max ammo?
Maybe 2x is fine
I dont exactly remember
Aim for min 240 ammo with Bastion, so 168 base
Which is 2x max ammo
frozen pike
I'll attempt to go for that
frozen pike
Still no max ammo from her 3rd OL gear
hearty silo
2 is enough
Who is this for? Tove? Tove wanted 2 max ammo? 👀
hearty silo
Aim for min 240 ammo with Bastion, so 168 base
Oh
frozen pike
Who is this for? Tove? Tove wanted 2 max ammo? 👀
That's for my tove, since it keeps giving me atk up and ele slots
tired cradle
That's for my tove, since it keeps giving me atk up and ele slots
Just stop at 2
Tove also needs OL urgently
It makes her much more bearable to use
frozen pike
Just stop at 2
Alright I'll stop from there
cobalt arch
better stop her s2 at lvl8?
safe vale
max
umbral acorn
alright lets guess how much the rng chance post treasure will be
imma call around 20% and up to 6 or 9 stack
proud epoch
keep 5% but 3 stacks at start of battle
just to fk with us players
signal torrent
is she getting a treasure? wtf have i missed
vocal cove
is she getting a treasure? wtf have i missed
Yes she is
signal torrent
blonde & pink girl summer
vocal cove
I have a feeling tove treasure is the only decent treasure this season. Of course they can prove me wrong and I welcome it
signal torrent
since poli is already used by championships winners it would be hard to fuck her up
both her and bay can be great for pvp
flint summit
of all the people to give a treasure, it's the b1 slot of shotgun team
hard harness
The most critical part of the shotgun team. If it helps maintain her stacks, it’s a huge boost to the whole team.
ebon cosmos
I think her treasure just gonna make stacks consistent, while giving minimal actual new buffs to team
proud epoch
not a serious suggestion, but
let's say I want to make Tove broken
S1 consistency buff
15sec buff duration, for BSoda
pellet count +5, bench Leona
2~3 sec of CDR
small max ammo + ammo refund, but double effect for self
LET ME COOK 🔥 🔥 🗣️
if B3 has self ammo debuff, disable max ammo buff to said B3
for SAnis
dark widget
let's say I want to make Tove broken
S1 consistency buff
15sec buff duration, fo...
y bench leona, just run tove and leona 
dark widget
100% tove s1 rate
1 stack every 12 bullets 
obsidian harness
1 stack every 12 bullets <:prayge:1155980499278381147>
Wdyt about 3 stacks with same %
obsidian harness
Wdyt about 3 stacks with same %
I think they're gonna do this
dark widget
wym 3 stacks with same %
obsidian harness
wym 3 stacks with same %
+3 stacks instead of +1
dark widget
i mean thats better but dont u still have chance of drop
distant tartan
just extend her buff timers
it's not even that hard
fucking clowns and having stacks and buffs last 2/3/5/etc seconds
hearty silo
If sensible, they’ll just change it from rng proc to always proc
5 seconds duration, 12 shots to proc a stack
The End
signal torrent
treasure's will give at least 3 skills
sg also deserves a bigger buff than still hanging on position 5
jaunty silo
will she be pvp
vital lily
will she be pvp
tove no way she will be good for pvp
jaunty silo
but i dolled her already
vital lily
but i dolled her already
Still good for pve tho
signal torrent
X
vital lily
hearty silo
Tove nerfed
proud epoch
the baseball skin is unironically hotter
frozen pike
Ass nerfed??
frozen pike
the baseball skin is unironically hotter
Yeah it is. Baseball cosmetic better
indigo terrace
warped lake
100% stack, take it or leave it
hearty silo
Tove is already stacked 
proud epoch
"Tove" and "stacked" rarely belong on the same sentence
safe vale
Tove smug kills me
kill them with kindness is Selena Gomez. For Tove, kill them till insanity
drowsy scroll
"Tove" and "stacked" rarely belong on the same sentence
of course you won’t get stacks, she’s in cover not shooting
umbral acorn
"Tove" and "stacked" rarely belong on the same sentence
during providence sr there is one case my entire clip only generate one stack 
hearty silo
Imaginary Tove treasure:
T1: If there are 4 SGs in team, Tove has 100% chance to stack
T2: If there are 4 SGs in team, Tove stack effects and stack-related effects are 50% better
T3: If there are 4 SGs in team, Tove uses a shotgun instead of assault rifle, and may be affected by buffs intended for shotgun units
proud epoch
if it's 4SG, BAlice is perma benched on ToveT team
hearty silo
Being cute isn't sufficient to receive an exception 
proud epoch
then ToveT Blanc B3 B3 Noir is also no-no
we'll need to see what's up with PoliT first
signal torrent
as long as tovetr washes my dishes it's all good
hearty silo
I don’t want to jinx us all, but what if Tove gets CDR and it’s based on her stacks, making it even more mandatory to have max stacks before bursting? 
That might actually be kinda nice, since then BAlice can be used to fix Tove rng some and she’d be the stand-in for the CDR unit we punted out in favor of this fictional Tove treasure
dark widget
I don’t want to jinx us all, but what if Tove gets CDR and it’s based on her sta...
Add a 2nd stack for tove at 3% proc and it buffs ur burst twice as much
Tbh I would much rather see tove 15s burst than tove cdr, better flavour
Changes timelines ect while being fine for this team instead of just forcing cdr down the throat
river elk
make her buffs 15 seconds, make her proc 10% instead of 5% buff crit values and sleep
jaunty silo
is her treasure good
rain canopy
yeah
safe vale
good
gleaming steeple
Any datamine info on it yet
plush zinc
make her buffs 15 seconds, make her proc 10% instead of 5% buff crit values and ...
lol are you a psychic
plush zinc
I had hoped for a pellet increase for doro
but yeah, the rest of the buffs were obvious
plush zinc
wouldn't be the first time a treasure goes into a nieche
copper moat
miranda you could argue was made specifically for sw already, but tove was made for sg in general
teal jungle
Man why cant they just remove tove rng, the fact that its 10% means its still possible some poor soul out there has to mald for perfect luck
plush zinc
only 2.2% chance to lose stacks aparently
teal jungle
only 2.2% chance to lose stacks aparently
Some poor guy out there will hit 2.2% chance and reset sr run
safe vale
peak SR won't change much sadly
cuz I always assume you never lose stack and every burst you hit x3
one can dream
distant tartan
Tove Treasure kit:
■ Activates when performing 10 normal attack(s). Affects self.
Emergency-Crafted Bullets: Reload 5.31% of the magazine(s).
■ Activates during Emergency-Crafted Bullets. Affects all allies.
Temporary Modification: Max Ammunition Capacity ▲ 2, stacks up to 3 time(s) and lasts for 5 sec.
Critical Damage ▲ 5.24% for 5 sec.
■ Only activates when Temporary Modification is fully stacked. Affects all allies.
Critical Rate ▲ 10.08% continuously.
■ Only activates when Temporary Modification is fully stacked. Affects all shotgun-wielding allies.
Attack Speed ▲ 42.24% continuously.
■ Affects all allies.
Miracle of Makeshifts: ATK ▲ 2.32% of caster's ATK. Mirrors the stack count of Temporary Modification for 15 sec.
■ Affects all shotgun-wielding allies.
Miracle of Makeshifts: ATK ▲ 24.21% of caster's ATK. Mirrors the stack count of Temporary Modification for 15 sec.```
distant tartan
Tove Treasure kit:
```Tove treasure skill kit
■ Activates when performing 10 nor...
tired cradle
Tove Treasure kit:
```Tove treasure skill kit
■ Activates when performing 10 nor...
What exactly changed just the numbers? Smh uncreative
OH WAIT 15S
plush zinc
well it was all she needed
tired cradle
Very significant
plush zinc
isn't 5s of extra atk pretty significant?
it now lasts the whole duration of the extended sg burst
so yeah
copper moat
79% you mean
huh
isn't it 24 + 2 from burst
distant tartan
What exactly changed just the numbers? Smh uncreative
basically 10% proc, 15s timers EXCEPT the 3 stack itself and more crit
plush zinc
×3
stone surge
huh
isn't it 24 + 2 from burst
it mirrors the stack count of s1, so x3
viral mauve
they really give tove treasure to accomodate sdoro
and permanent bsoda on sg team I guess
copper moat
oh right, forgot about that part so yeah 79% pretty significant
stone surge
s2 only increased crit rate?
distant tartan
yes
icy stirrup
1 - 3 - 2 is upgrade path
copper moat
they really give tove treasure to accomodate sdoro
ehh wouldn't say it directly accommodates her, nothing directly does anything special for doro
it's also just a weird choice since she wasn't at all underused
icy stirrup
So just phase 2 at best
stone surge
oh crap, s1 ammo is 5% instead of flat 2 rounds, that's huge
tired cradle
1 - 3 - 2 is upgrade path
Wheres Bay
icy stirrup
Somewhere in eden
plush zinc
oh crap, s1 ammo is 5% instead of flat 2 rounds, that's huge
oh wow I overread that part
she is insane
stone surge
oh nvm me it's the same as old kit 
I'm just woken up
viral mauve
ehh wouldn't say it directly accommodates her, nothing directly does anything sp...
yeah, it's just more in line with bsoda skill to make it last the same 15s this time
the sg team core
stone surge
anyway less RNG on Tove coin always welcome
tired cradle
Note: u can still have bad luck and drop stacks
obsidian harness
Tove Treasure kit:
```Tove treasure skill kit
■ Activates when performing 10 nor...
What changed
distant tartan
What changed
basically 10% proc, 15s timers EXCEPT the 3 stack itself and more crit
obsidian harness
basically 10% proc, 15s timers EXCEPT the 3 stack itself and more crit
Wasn't it 10% before as well
distant tartan
5%
distant tartan
100% proc boost 
tired cradle
Hmm Dolla might make more sense now
ebon cosmos
distant tartan
obsidian harness
Damn we guys we eating good
tired cradle
Tove Blanc Doro Boda Noir goat
obsidian harness
We only have one good treasure
obsidian harness
Tove Blanc Doro Boda Noir goat
Can we take 5 months to do treasure reviews or do we have to do it faster this time
tired cradle
DrakeTr powercrept instantly
tired cradle
Can we take 5 months to do treasure reviews or do we have to do it faster this t...
We just do Tove then write everyone else in 10 months
obsidian harness
Agreed
distant tartan
Can we take 5 months to do treasure reviews or do we have to do it faster this t...
you got competition now need article right now
obsidian harness
you got competition now need article right now <:Doro:1146503869988343848>
Does nikkegg even have treasure reviews 💔
I thought we was the only one 
distant tartan
with their new writer yes maybe 
tired cradle
you got competition now need article right now <:Doro:1146503869988343848>
Idk man Nikke.gg went inactive for too long
obsidian harness
Idk man Nikke.gg went inactive for too long <:BlancStare:1121783303922532403>
"You guys" code is mine big bro
He's commcord
On a real note
Someone should do Julia math a bit maybe
But if anyone asks
Tove treasure is good
The rest are bad
tired cradle
Shes shit
signal torrent
tove treasure is basically admitting they didn't properly tested her kit
this is a number adjustment they didn't need a treasure for it could've been a balance patch
celest plover
Truth nuke
mossy light
it's like playing yugioh only new cards or ban list updates
they won't change tcg card description
and your waifu deck can't be meta if new support cards not good enough if you even get one 
ebon cosmos
Commander drank them all
autumn hemlock
So tove treasure > whatever new treasure else?
rotund jolt
Tove gacha skin soon
"Tove: Divine Nectar"
I shouldn't have done my dispatches
Missed out on Tove mats
plush zinc
ah right
autumn hemlock
I shouldn't have done my dispatches
Bricced 🥀
autumn hemlock
Where 75%
vital stump
24.21% x 3 = 72,63%
mossy light
+2.32% x 3
icy stirrup
It's funny we don't need to test because the kit is literally less malding
Except the double attack boost for sg
mossy light
10s->15s is a lot
plush zinc
no the more important part is that the dmg boost will be nearly consistent for the whole 15 sec
signal torrent
wish it was a lot bigger so shotgun could be as good as t2 in raids
maybe a new b2 in the future could make that happen
mossy light
new SG B2 pilgrim limited xmas 
signal torrent
i'll take it 
autumn hemlock
new SG B2 pilgrim limited xmas <a:DoroLostinThoughts:1279874776600543243>
XNoah 
rotund jolt
Loli core game
signal torrent
her flatass skin is paid? what a joke i thought it was free
celest plover
What
icy stirrup
Mald is gone lmao
woven coral
wtf its not 10%, s1 activates after 10 hits GUARANTEED!? 😱
distant tartan
updated description
indigo terrace
ohh bye rng
signal torrent
that's good
distant tartan
Recommendation upgrade to Phase 2 ASAP, Phase 3 is skippable can be done eventually with random drops from SR
distant tartan
Recommendation upgrade to Phase 2 ASAP, Phase 3 is skippable can be done eventua...
rain canopy
Hold up that change is huge
distant tartan
yup perma stack
autumn hemlock
Anyone knows minimum ammo OL Tove requires?
distant tartan
Anyone knows minimum ammo OL Tove requires?
0 just run resilience
or bastion it doesn't really matter
5 secs to reload before you drop stacks
rain canopy
Yeah just resilience is fine. Maybe 1 ammo for qol
teal jungle
i got muted for posting neonpoint 41 times for being too excited about tove rng gone
icy stirrup
Phase 1 already huge
signal torrent
weird text change then
safe vale
just like Snow White who has 1 SR shot but still scan range dmg bonus as AR
rain canopy
GPT translation
icy stirrup
So phase 1 is enough
rain canopy
No both phase 1 and 2
signal torrent
you want guaranteed + 15 seconds buff
terse rock
What’s her optimal shotgun team? Bsoda, drake.T and Leona ?
terse rock
Obv not crown
signal torrent
then obv not optimal
drowsy scroll
if healer is needed and naga is not yoinked elsewhere, naga
if healer is not needed, then we can go with leona
if healer is needed and naga is already yoinked elsewhere, maybe marci
icy stirrup
Tove updated OL build: 4 atk only due to you only need 30 ammos for full stacks
obsidian harness
Tove updated OL build: 4 atk only due to you only need 30 ammos for full stacks
Since tove is 10 bullets
This means she has 100% uptime?
On buffs?
distant tartan
yes
obsidian harness
So this is basically a must have or get bricked bozo
distant tartan
honestly speaking tove only needs OL for stats for caster attack
doesn't matter what OL stats she gets now
neutral shooting range
like 4 atk tove ain't carrying as you can see
obsidian harness
Basically 2× soda
signal torrent
how much of that is sdoro favored because of grave
distant tartan
grave there because I reset my leona and don't wanna throw invest back into her
well I didn't SR15 doll her yet
so take what you want from that
infact she had no doll on
signal torrent
can you try a run with crown?
regal knot
you take that back and invest Leona again
viral mauve
I wonder if going grave/mari pierce route is better than mpriv or guilty/noir on their element
drowsy scroll
honestly speaking tove only needs OL for stats for caster attack
atk so she can do wall qte and not drop stacks
distant tartan
ehh her self buffs are good enough
regal knot
does anyone know who to convert your extra treasure items into another item?
I forgot where to access it
signal torrent
does anyone know who to convert your extra treasure items into another item?
press that button
safe vale
glossy lark
is p3 needed for her?
signal torrent
no
safe vale
9
distant tartan
Tove needs S1 10 for the 10 shots?
can't you check in-game
honest hawk
where is the start of the quest?
quartz linden
can't you check in-game
No. As the preview shows lvl 10 values
And I am still at SR11 
distant tartan
no it shows current level
I checked for poli/bay/julia because tove had incorrect kit
and saw level 4 skills
drowsy scroll
don't think you need 9 even after the treasure
9 to 10 only increases the crit rate by 0.3% per stack
at treasure level
distant tartan
well the break points might be x attacks to stack
quartz linden
hearty silo
170 blue kits, 50 purple kits, and 10 gold kits for Tove
quartz linden
My S1 isn't 10
hearty silo
distant tartan
signal torrent
Tove needs S1 10 for the 10 shots?
10 shots is in black
probably also at s1
quartz linden
honest hawk
why i cant start the quest of the treasure?
distant tartan
signal torrent
bond level?
quartz linden
Wtf I am doing wrong then
honest hawk
oh
distant tartan
are you in your own roster or nikkepedia
distant tartan
distant tartan
gg
vital stump
Tove Treasure S1 attacks per stack
1-2: 25
3-5: 20
6-8: 15
9-10: 10
vital stump
treasure level sacling is now on .gg too https://nikke.gg/characters/tove/
safe vale
25?
distant tartan
yes
strange shell
so don't need to p3 then
safe vale
distant tartan
yes read pins
dark widget
so it takes her 6.25s to max S1
So what ur telling me is
distant tartan
it's fast enough at level 9+
quartz linden
Don't you get max stacks faster at 9 tho?
dark widget
quartz linden
Wdym reset her
quartz linden
dark widget
It'll only affect first burst tho right
distant tartan
otherwise first burst is gonna have 1-2 stacks depending on level
vital stump
from 5% gamba to 2.5s max
distant tartan
It'll only affect first burst tho right
yeah
vital stump
nice treasure
quartz linden
Man. Nothing used to feel worse than lose stacks just before her bursts
dark widget
Can I infinite my sg now?
quartz linden
It felt like a kick straight to the nuts
distant tartan
nope
dark widget
CAN I INFINITE AMMO SG
distant tartan
no
quartz linden
No
distant tartan
dark widget
5% reload every 1s no?
vital stump
5% reload every 1s no?
Affects self.
Emergency-Crafted Bullets: Reload 5.31% of the magazine.
quartz linden
And about 160 ammo
dark widget
And about 160 ammo
I already infinite her
distant tartan
tove has infinite ammo though
dark widget
vital stump
not the leo emote <:icant:764500100851695637>
@last fulcrum c'mere you
quartz linden
tove has infinite ammo though <:wahahaha:1008472874513870882>
as long as you didnt lose stacks and used bunnies
safe vale
problem is
lv 1 => lv 9 only gives a few seconds ramping up faster
afterward, Tove never loses stacks
dark widget
I rememebered
dark widget
What if sanis with low level s1
I remember there was something there
I don't recall if I needed priv
safe vale
I recommend lv 6 s1 at max
for 15 shot aka 3.75s
this way, you should reach B1 when you have max stack
but it can be even slower with 20 shots
quartz linden
be it 25 or 10
Yeah but you will have to blue ball yourself in order to wait for the max stacks for the first burst
safe vale
just recheck your own vid to see how long it takes to fill 1st burst
dark widget
It doesn't change too much in my eyes
quartz linden
It is mainly the first burst
How long it takes for the SG team to get to burst in the first few seconds?
dark widget
So low level s1 is def something but at the same time I don't need the books at this current time so it's ok for later reset
safe vale
I remember 5s
dark widget
I think it's less than 5 but I usually wait about 5 for stacks
Cuz after 5 if I do t have 3 stack I reset
safe vale
yeah, for min maxing, lv 4 - 6 is fine. But we can afford lv 9 because faster stack means your SG deals more dmg pre burst
vital stump
this is maid megathread now btw
quartz linden
I remember it being less than 5 too
quartz linden
Noir has good brust gen yeah
dark widget
Leona mpriv has a slower gen time than some of the newer teams for example
dark widget
yeah, for min maxing, lv 4 - 6 is fine. But we can afford lv 9 because faster st...
Did u account for running out of ammo
Or is it under her default ammo
icy stirrup
Does reload last longer than 5s
quartz linden
Does reload last longer than 5s
No
dark widget
She's like 1s reload I think?
quartz linden
1.5s iirc
dark widget
Does reload last longer than 5s
Maybe with bowtie
quartz linden
Nvm 1s
dark widget
Was it bowtie that gave me reload debuff
vital stump
tove is 1s reload
vital stump
Was it bowtie that gave me reload debuff
yes, 200%
safe vale
1s reload, 2s shooting time, buff lasts 5s
that's why I said
impossible to lose stack now lol
unless, she doesn't shoot
dark widget
Get fog walled
merry scroll
Does tove run bastion now?
safe vale
she can use anything
unborn smelt
no more Tove RNG 
dark widget
@tired cradle does sanis tove s1 lvl 5 work now
indigo terrace
I'm being sarcastic
obsidian folio
SG comp has been meta since B Soda
tired cradle
<@308926283482398720> does sanis tove s1 lvl 5 work now
dark widget
<:BurninKek:1053339937241571338>
what if tho
and then tove steals sanis
from k
DOUBLE NTR
does k work with tove?
prob not right
river elk
its easy to test… just put tove and K in the shooting range and see if K fires faster in her burst
distant tartan
it does nothing