#[Naga] New Unit Megathread
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look at s. helm's skill 2 lol
no 3rd b3 is ever gonna outdmg s. helm's skill 2 into iron weak boss
yulha def not
modernia obviously but then ur wasting modernia on that team
u cant just stack all ur b3s like that
its why u dont see alice sw modernia stacked together on a team
Iirc it is. skyjlv has a video on it, and I think yulha had better results (might be wrong have to check but that what I remember).
Youre talking a SR or UR situation?
🤦♂️
solo raid
sky gave up on the sw yulha tech months ago
while sin was running it
then when solo raid teams started getting displayed
Then I stand by running novel and sHelm together is a waste
Still not relevant
All that matters is having the buffs up and compare the numbers
all im saying is your citing a player who doesnt know what they r doing/talking about till after the fact
Why tf does it matter as long as he did the testing with all relevant buffs?
Why do you care about the player bro
i dont even know what you are arguing wtih me about rn
is it about novel shelm being together?
Authority fallacy man
That you're dismissing a testing bc you dont like the guy that did it
i never said i didnt like him
i said he didnt know what he was doing/saying
and ur citing his numbers as gospel
i dont even know why ur getting so maldy
u @'ed me here just to mald
Idk I only got maldy over you dismissing the testing
He's using the same game as we do
So why wouldn't I?
he tested 4/10/4 yulha vs 4/10/4 s. helm into an iron weak boss for 3 minutes?
or just ran numbers on a spreadsheet
ill bite and check this testing out
hope its not solo sw testing 
my guess is either 1. he didnt test that scenario i said or 2. he tested solo sw, which then of course yulha s2 wud result in more dmg since 90% > 28%
option 2 is obviously a solo carry comp where all the dmg is coming in on snow white burst, ignoring everyone else on the team
sw surrounded by 4 buffers/non big 5 dps
I think he did test it. Still have to check though
i find it highly unlikely he tested
liter novel sw max s. helm
no reason to test that
once u put liter and max in there
its no longer solo sw
its a duo carry comp
Why 
You telling me you don't dislike the guy but you clearly have a bias against him
wut r u even saying lmao
im saying
how can it be possible he tested liter novel sw max s. helm
into an iron weak boss
on s. helm release
did he just have one lying around?
UR
because the way you are talking is like this is an actual boss run and not a spreadsheet
Had 2 iron weak bosses
do u know the day he tested it?
Lemme check and I'll share the quick summary vid
im trying to give you the benefit of the doubt if u can just tell me a day or days to look at
happy to admit im wrong
You can check the vod where it comes from if you want 
Before anything I just want to say that my point is not that yulha is definitely better than her (as I dont remember the absolute conclusions) just that sHelm might be better off on other teams where you have units that may take more advantage of the perma up buff: any constant damage dealer like modernia/ scarlet, instead of sw max where dmg comes mainly from burst
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Heres the vid
ok ill take a look
no hard feelings
when i threw the team out there
its not like final final
just had 5 irons 
Date is 08/10
the comp i threw out doesnt even make sense since it has no healer so wud just die
which i specifically said right after typing it
All good 
Is better to save for Naga or Tia or pull for Marciana? (i need good units to advance on Campaing, i've heard Naga is the best one of the 3 that is right?)
If you have to ask, Id save 
Good ansewer, thanks 
wait @faint gazelle
But which is better? Naga or Tia?
Like, we still getting anni unit after them, then Christmas, then new year so 
.....damn
You need em both 
OOF....
@faint gazelle he said literally waht i said
at 10:59 too
1 carry = yulha obviously wins
his earlier number is just snap shotting sw burst # with yulha buff vs s. helm buff
90% > 28%
but what matters is total damge over 3 min
Ohh ok. Hadn't check the vid in a long time 
Gotta give it to you 
also need to keep in mind that yulha s2 only buffs sw, not maxwell
but s. helm buffs them both

regardless both of these comps are ass since no healing/sustain
marciana tech incoming
just be at synchro 400+ playing UR
we don't have too much cdr we simply don't have enough burst generation
quantum relic lv 10 is what ur saying?
we need more cdr + burst gen then isabel can finally pop off
You can start stacking Isabel's skill right away if you use doro+priv. She's still dogshit though 
She could be good if only her dmg taken debuff wasn't tied to burst/multiplier was higher/debuff lasted longer
no just have more meaningful b1 and b2 that we'll cycle through faster
could easily be good
your scope is fixated on isabel
you need to expand your mind
think team wide
what are you talking about
its nikke goddess of victory aka pilgrim usage or gtfo

the second we got a meta B2 pilgrim, everyone will just talk about doro/B2 pilgrim/scar/mod/snow in every content, team 1 2 3 UR and still copy it on team 1 2 3 4 5 SR


rip kisenix
Ppl were too toxic to kisenix smh my head
simple don't break the rules
even if you think you're being a funny person
he just fly too close to the sun and got double tap by sun or something
He is still here with us, at least in my heart and destinychild discord
gatrix kept using the word naga naughtily
kisenix is still here but he’s sick atm so he’s not going schizo
mr.iProbie pls join dc discord
what wrong with her name?

nothing is wrong
i find a way to bypass
but if you dont get the context of how it could potentially be bad you're actually a really good person
the system
so its better if you never konw
💀 now i get it, damn

just gimme link 🗿
No I must not this is a seiso server
Kisenix is sick
May he gws
Gatrix is banned from this server for referencing the nword like 25-30 times
So are we forced to roll both schoolgirls so they're good
Yes
ok so the limitation to refer to the nword is 24 times, got it.
please don't ban me 
Bro they will be well over 18 ,these kid who keeps failing high school wtf

Not mentioning their previous age on human body
All the nikkes are definitely 3000 year old dragon or something I dunno




Liter:
dam new unit threads really dead without kisenix

our gordon ramsay is gone not cooking
The new units are literally 2 weeks away

2B and A2 really raised standards for research lab
Prepare to be disappointed

2? Its not 1? 
i thought in 9ish days
is tia or naga banner
then next one 7 days after
just so they can get them both in before solo raids to force whales to core 7

the tweet probably in 5 days?
isnt the tweet usually 4-5 days b4 banner drop usually
marci hard mode still not yet unlocked so there’s still time
Why would it be 2 weeks?
It makes more sense if they put them right when marci event and banner ends, which is in 9 days
i jsut realized what i was asying lol
i was thinking 2 weeks in terms of the event ending
i think by time the event ends we'll get the twins so we'll have this week gap between
Tianaga core damage buff only for raid? Dont think so, they going to be great in campaign, Elite Slayers
No fast tapping 24/7? shame
what chapter is this even?
16 something
imagine new boss come out and all attacks by pass covers 
or just make the fart rapture into a bigger boss version
oh i found out that
the fart rapture doesnt have core
enjoy the fart

sorry fake news it does have oppsie
holy shieet
tricky situation
Tianaga help A2 alot, A2 isnt really core hitter
scarlet bad at hitting core at far distance
modernia good at hitting core but she will burst eventually with tianaga
alice is the only good option but without gaming chair her performance drop a bit
so i just assume the core buff is tiny addition to their kit during story mode

still think anniversary nikke is a complement to tianaga either at burst I likely (chime?) or Burst III i have no idea who, but an MG/AR that effectively use Tianaga kit even in story mode
why not Nagatia?
that sound better than Tianaga
they aren't lolis, I don't see why not
they look younger than super soldier guillotine i think they should be banned
Can't we just call them gyarus 
@haughty widget ?

Yesn't
Their age isn't given so I don't really care
And being Nikkes makes their real age a toss up
Mf

You need bangin
thinking about skill investment
looks like tia gets away with 10/1/1
naga is more like 10/10/10 everything's so good 
I feel like her S1 cd reduction is gonna be a fixed number just like Blanc, otherwise that will be a really bad skill design...
What we would want to know is at which level it would be enough to trigger it before the other b1
tiga looking must have for interception 

1 ig... I just said that It could be a fixed number like Blanc... (no matter what lv. it is the cd reduction will be 40s) Could be the same as Naga. and the lv. will increase only the core dmg 
A Nikke belonging to the graduating class, Dazzling Pearl squad.
A food enthusiast who's fond of sweets.
Her dream is to see a dragon one day and make a wish to it.
Here just use it
If you are on TH fb group I already wrote their kits analysis
does 13 sec vs 10 sec even matter?
since it should stack twice so you get a cdr of 26 vs 20 so like is that even that big a deal (not even factoring cdr)?
probalby lower with a cdr unit like doro
but the attack damage up might matter
idk how impactful the extra 10% is though
Ye big juice
4 is cheap though so no reason to not take her to 4
But it takes naga 12 normal shots to trigger tia s1
So it would take 24 shots
In the span of less than 20s
Prolly even lower
To dish out 24 shots
i mean
Not accounting for ded time zone
1.5s relolad
and dpeending on the team still wouldn't matter
since the sr team will probably be tia doro naga alice privaty
We will see
worst case scenario take s1 to 7 if its a major issue
Dont worry listen to be
Me
U run the 2b comp in SR
The best run
Then you kill her
And invest into tianaga

tia s2 has own cover heal
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Naga
Skill Order - Skill 2 > Skill 1 > Burst Skill
Cube - Resilience Cube(Reload Speed%)
Overload Stats - Max Ammo(at least 30%+), ATK%, Hit Rate%, Crit DMG%
Gear Upgrade - Gear > Helmet > Gloves > Boots -
Tia
Skill Order - Skill 2 > Skill 1 > Burst Skill
Cube - Resilience Cube(Reload Speed%)
Overload Stats - Charging Speed%, Charge DMG%, Def%
Gear Upgrade - Gear > Boots > Helmet > Gloves -
Naga Burst Skill is perfectly fine at lvl.5, lvl.5 gives 12.5% and 23.32% Atk. You want Naga to have at least 12 ammo(30%+) this makes it so she recovers cover hp every reload and proccs her Skill 2 twice per reload. Reload Speed% is nice cuz she wants to keep shooting.
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Tia Burst Skill is perfectly fine at lvl.4, lvl.4 gives 25.5% self shield and 7.42% allies shield. Charging Speed% and Reload Speed% are self explanatory, you want her to land 5 shots as fast as possible so she can keep taunting and increase her cover Max HP. Max ammo% isn't that great cuz 6 ammo wont be increased by much.
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Notes
This duo shouldn't struggle too much against Modernia if you can prepare your burst 1 before she uses her lasers. Tia's shields should block at least 1 strike. Against Chatterbox you can just reset if he destroys Tia's cover first since she will keep taunting she will need her cover, Tia's shields can also block this attack and hopefully the bonus cover max hp can actually tank this attack. BOTH OF THESE BOSSES WILL NEED TESTING
Max Limit Break isn't necessary but the extra stats will be very helpful cuz both rely on HP, and Naga's Burst Skill also relies on Max Atk
expectation: does well agaisnt mod laser
reality: can't even damage mod when interruption circles + element shield comes up
my homie 
Why Naga S2 > S1? or you priority heal over dmg?
Probably cause with s2 is going to proc more often than her s1
The core damage part
S1 is going to trigger every burst rotation so about every 20 seconds
But they’re both important
Tia: S1 > S2 > Burst
Naga: Burst > S1 > S2
My man kise is back
Heal so she can keep Tia and A2 alive. Also both effect procc roughly every 3 sec
Nag burst is based in her Max Atk. Also doesn’t increase all that much from lvl. 5 to lvl.8
Her strongest dmg buff is jn her S2 and S1
lvl 10 burst w/ tia is a 47.2% attack boost while level 5 is 35.82%
so a 12% difference
in an alice privaty team, a level 10 naga burst is a 6% increase in overall damage for alice vs level 5
You know S2 barely rises
Idk what u mean
It's around 0.4% boost per level ON CORE without dMG DISTNC OR CRIT
Attack is best
Then S1
Noir S1 is high priority btw
Skill books cheaper than burst books though
So don’t you have to factor that into what skills you take to what level
Noir s1 is also a permanent buff
Noir S1 is also like 10% atk
14.41% attack forever on a unit you are forced to use because Blanc is beyond broken
Love how you copied the Oppenheimer photo everywhere as well xD
We will become the destroyers of worlds
well, she still needs to be at full health. And she is usually first to die, at least left dead 🙂 especially in campaign 🙂
But I would like to ask about two assumptions that was weirdly made and that would pretty much break this duo if not met, so I need to know the basis they are made on:
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Naga's "when applying shield" is her B2 burst skill. By the time this is cast the Tia's shield is already up and there won't be any other cast during the burst. How does it trigger?
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All those Tia's "Activates when recovering Cover's HP" could easily not work if the cover is already at full health as that might or might not "trigger" the "on recovery" like Nero's "on healing". Any basis it actually works as people assume?
they should rewrite that...
i feel like they meant "when a shield is present in the field"
the way its written means that the shield must be applied the moment naga does her 12th shot or burst which is ¿¿¿¿¿ to me
when in reality, a shield simply needs to exist on her
as for Tia... well have to wait and see...
dunno for you but i see a 100% HP nero not getting hit cuz cover and max stacked buff thanks to rapunzel...
and besides, Tia procs taunt = 100% gonna lose cover hp and Tia's S2 increase max HP cover so the cover will never be at 100% HP unless you slap a cocoa/liter for unknown reasons
70% hp pretty easy to maintain
ok too much words too much calculation
10/10/10 all 2
save my sanity reading all these
just swipe 💳 to solve all issues
they knew exactly what they were doing 
Then you got touhou at 6 times less...
but are skill mats gated as heavily as nikke
not really....
and threw all conveniences into the cashshop if you wanted the easy way out
Sad cuz they would definitely make more money if the price were affordable/reasonable so that more players could buy them
well there's the uhhh
Lv 10 full set + 20 pulls at 60$? count me in
monthly for slightly faster gated mats 
but 160$? nope
Just use skill reset dud
We going to have one before sr
Kill your meta nikkes
Ezpz
Nah fam that s1 going to level 10
The atk up is too good
Thats only behind Blanc/Novel damage taken up
In order of damage formula
If I understand it correctly

Tia tia not naga
cant top novel
Im killing novel s1 for Tia, ezpz 
blanc = 39% vs tia = 33%
but naga screws blanc over when you got shield
16% default + 31% when shielded = 47%
not counting core damage of S1 & S2
Novel > Naga (on shield) > Blanc > Tia > Naga (no shield)
cuz shes like novel; damage taken increase
Novel blanc different kind of buff
Im just bring them to emphasize the attack up
Weakpoint damage is where Tia s1 buff at
Just before the DTD
i see
i put my brain on the side and pulling out my mileage to get both
delete suffer.exe


🐭
Hmm, so the only thing the twin bunnies are better than twin schoolgirls is healing and providing more ammo, right?
and if covers have full HP, will the twin schoolgirls provide buff?
u didnt account the shield and Taunt tia provide
so Blanc heal maybe less comparing to the sustain Tianaga provide
what is about CP and team limitation?
CP gap between team and the map, If it is the issue then Tia may not be able to survive in high level map
and only 2 b3 used in tianaga comps
which limit the optimization
ex:
Modernia has to burst, which lower her dps, cant utilize the core damage buff from naga
so blanc/noir are more versatile
not quite, but for campaign right now they are queens
we will have to see
a fully invested Tianaga
handle campaign
how they perform
they pole dance on enemy's corpses 
u should see
when the enemies initiate their attack early
Bunnies will crumble
if not for Alice gaming chair spam fast burst
also Blanc making a teammate undead is really useful, we have seen a lot of players abuse this in raids
true, but yeah we will see
blanc get targeted, she ded
On tier list, the bunnies are at top of everything
So i think Naga will be on the top as well, but Tia below one tier, into SS tier
have to wait and see
Oh, atk dmg, not atk buff.
Actually, which one provide more dps: atk dmg or dmg increase taken 
Damage taken
Atk damage up is right behind
Train is already crumbling w a2 and bunnies
A2 with Tianaga
Tskk
Train is like a pebble
You're Warut Sutthi...??
good bot
Thanks!
they use this « begins simultaneously » sentence at every character release
it doesnt mean they’ll release both characters at the same time
I mean they might but this sentence on the tweet doesn’t tell us anything
Why you gave Double banners as example

A2 banner doesn’t have it
I mean Jackal and Viper were released 1 week apart I’m pretty sure
here
only means the banner comes at the same time that the characters comes in game
I really thought there was gonna be a Laplace rerun until I saw the date
Pair with ASS yes
This is good, only have enough rock to OL 1 nikke now, 1 more week till Tia should net me another 4 rocks right 

wtf 
12hrs or so
Isn't 23hrs rn?
yea 22 hours 55 min
Yes
His gone bro we need to move forward 

relationship trauma began by imagining you can have relationship trauma
Can’t wait to see some Jank ass naga testing without Tia
AAAAH MY brown wife came home on the first 10
she took her dog with her as well
Ain't no way took me 130 pulls holy, usually I never go close to 100 on these non limited banners💀
Is Naga good? /s
9/8/10 now , same cp as blanc, campaign time in 7 days
dam me too, maybe i will use gold tick for Tia

im gonna try and pull tia with every bit of gem I can scrounge up before her deadline hits
that gold tick is for anniv
So does centi shield work on her?
It shouldn't as the skill description say so right? but have anyone try it yet?
nope
Gotta wait for Tia for full potential then.
Yeah was about to dump my manuals on her but then "wait, does she even function without Tia?"
So she literally needs a shield placed on her to trigger her s1
so no folkwang for you folks
unless your team comp is severely out of whack somehow
They're obviously throwing another pair of bunnies at us to sap our stash, this time more restrictive
not that optimal, since if aria's bursting than naga's not bursting
should i prioritize s1 or s2?
S1
pins say s2
roger
@abstract oar maybe you can come with the final analysis pin? 
I will, later
S1 first 
Yeah no way S2 is higher prio
he even put tia s2 first
Since the nikke is released, I'll be refreshing pins for proper testing now
Yeah cuz it's not an analysis
ty mr.snake for not unpin it
It's explaining her skills and giving uptime
MLB Naga in 80 pull 0 50/50s lost. I CANT BE STOPPED
Damn Naga is just unusable without Tia, cant really fit her into comp that looks “ok this acceptably strong”
Sleep for another week
technically naga is still usable by herself
just not getting the full extent of her kit without tia
Yep
Folkwang just doesn't work
I mean she works but doesnt comp wise
Aria would actually be manageable but 40s burst CD
Naga mlb 4/1/1/0 OL s2 lv10 in 1:30m and a2 c7 burst lv7, a2 almost loose mode B at 43%hp here WITHOUT getting hit, if Tia fail the taunt a2 getting hit she might loose mode B fast, the core gap between a2 and naga hurts bad
Edit: why a2 with Tianaga, cuz i want to use them together in campaign
Centi doesnt work
as people expected
faster than ass?
S2 level 5 , reload cube , no OL can keep A2 mode alive for a min and half
I'm not leveling her s2 for shit. guillo master race
Its okay as long as a2 doesnt get hit while Tia getting gangbang for 1:30m

But those fart raptures dont care about Tia

who to kick out of synchro for naga hmmm
just buy more slots 
Get wrecked 
I spent 70 pulls, even got Pilgrim...
have to buy Naga via shop
Hopefully, i will get Tia.
Skill priority? Or still need test?
Skill 2, then burst, then skill 1
It looks like you can use her with Guillotine as long as you don't lvl up S2 too much
But if I use her with Gui then 1>Burst>2?
but that limits her flexibility a lil too much. ASS/Guil/Naga/Tia/CDR sound mad good though
if you're using tia with naga, I say naga s1 and burst are priority
and then tia s1
Yeye finally probie said something that makes sense
I was going to use a comp like this Tia, Dorothy, Naga, S.Anis, Gui what lv. Should my Naga s2 be?

1
man if they continue this disgusting bullshit of one unit being near useless without another on anni then I'm not rolling
not really
Naga can go solo
half of her kit is missing without tia
the only good thing is that missing half is not tied to same squad restriction
so future b1 shielder can work with naga
does this mean Naga has cover heal or is that just hp potency but for cover healing?

2 anniversaries later
can't wait to try out the new b1 shielder cowgirl with naga bros
Cover heal , iirc the one on liter also say so
just noticed that she's lightning support too
liter's s2
she's going to fuck with anis no doubt

So if cover is at full HP, does her skill still give buff?
she doesn't yeah 
and she can't heal cover when it reach 0 HP, right?
that's up for testing later for Tia's s1
But in my language it say the same 
yea 0 hp cover can only be rebuilt by biscuit atm
yeah that the only worst scenerio
but usually, you just let NIKKE tank some hits, then cover take some dmg
as long as both HP can be healed back
so against a boss that does no damage or way too much damage, tia+naga's cover shenanigans is kinda awkward
yeah, the twin bunnies are more reliable
but dps overall, the jk is way better buffer
So since half of Naga's kit literally can't work atm, would her burst at least still be worth without Tia?
here is the thing: before pulling for Naga, you have to calculate if you can get TIa as well.
If u want that atk% badly, just use rupee

Way better
Just gonna drop this here in case someone is a Gui main like me 
The most important thing is tias cover though and at the very least the taunt should get some damage in
so

is naga half broken without tia?
Currently, Altersei is the only boss that covers the core.
He has it, but very well hidden.
yes, but can be fixed with a future shielder
good to know, time to C7 her then
With no Naga, you don't have reason to get TIa 
wdym? she already giving more dmg than bunnies XDDD
like i say, Naga can be fixed, not so much with Tia.
Imma slap u into nuclear reaction now

I dont think Naga can hold a single fart rapture let alone 3
maybe Tia shield prolong the pain a bit oh nooo
wait for the hypothetical future shielder that they won't ever release ig
1 week later we will get Tia banner, right?
so is she worth
Yes
chat
Just arrived home and got in the game
still a bit confused tho...
is it
"This effect" (Noun phrase) that talking about "the effect"
or
"This effect" (Adjective Phrase) this effect the cover
I'm not a native speaker....
Oh, people aren't focusing on the fact that Naga is a pierce shotty
remember when people were creaming over Neve dumpstering on SI gravedigger and chatterbox?
Naga might be the same, except she has buffs coming from things like ASS and her pierce is 10 entire seconds instead of just 2 bullets
what her cube should be then? reload? bastion?
It is worded differently from Liters but it's still cover Regen,
If they meant effect as in the adjective I think the wording would he along the lines of Cover Regen potency
Please no man I don't have anymore rocks
she's good but look at my Gui HP while Naga skill were still at 5-1-5 
(Shooting range)
at least she can reach 50%
Mans let go of Naga Guillotine 
when tia comes she probably can replace the missing amount of atk ig
N O 
🦗 where is your mast
with 2B 
Touché
I didn't build her and probably wouldn't cuz I already built Novel and Novel can go around while Mast were only with 2b/Gui...
4/4/4 and call it a day
any reason to OL naga?
it really hurt me when my 1-1-2 Mast doing the same or even more overall dmg than my 1-1-7 novel sometimes on 2B team, Now I hate her

her buff is based on her atk% iirc
How lucky is Naga in 4 multis? Average I guess.
yeah, average
That's very lucky XD
still no sign of Scarlet 
My best was MLB Anis in 52 pulls
I got mine with a spare with normal tickets, she just appeared there lol
I was asking, not showing
i'm talking about this
it's not really about Naga cuz we should talk about her dmg, skill, etc not pulls even if it's about her
Nah, everything about Naga is allowed here
Dw
I'll try to post a small review soon
Wait a minute... does Dorothy s2 hitting core? or was it because of Naga skill? I never notice this before (It miss some time so I'm not sure) most of the time it hit
Naga is a must pull or skip?
Must pull
It hardly miss tbh
I read a lit her kit but it seems like a liter 2.0 no?
Kindof.. I guess? No cdr tho so liter is the goat
Narojoto
Don't think about it like that
Think about her as a very decent support when paired with tia
nvm just checked, it still hit the core even without Naga
I'm wondering: how tanky the boss in training ground is...
around 250m++ ig the last time I try to get above 270m it died
i just tried that bug too
i think it has something buggy with MG that cause dorothy S2 to hit core
Sir, what your guillotine stat? 4 atk line?
nope, mostly just ammo....
That's very good
My sync higher, but can't replicate your damage 
My naga keep guillotine full hp though 
probably because your Naga s2 isn't lv.1?
Yeah lv4 right now
then she can't anymore 
they said there's a better team but if you want to play with Gui and want to keep her at low hp gotta wait for skill reset period then
use biscuit as healer instead
we're talking about Naga here... but if you talk about Gui.
Normally, I don't use healer it's either rng on a boss that not attack frequently or a taunter like diesel but if the boss attack often I get privaty out and put Noise in
Just don’t shoot with Naga smh
You lose core damage buff too then
But yeah probably can't use her with guillotine
Naga is a must-have nikke for everyone. I recommend:
- F2p should get one copy, which should be enough as she is a support.
- For low spends, one copy is enough as well, however they may get dupes if they plan to be competitive in Raids or want extra CP for campaign, where Naga will be very usable as well.
Why is she a must-have?
Naga with Tia:
Tldr: Heals, Cover heals, Core damage buffs and ATK buffs. Plus she's hot.
At a glance, it Simply feels meta. A very very decent core damage buff, since Tia unlocks the second part of her S1, which stacks with her S2 core damage buff. This is not as good a buff as an ATK buff per say, but since the value being provided is so high, it is overall a decent damage increase.
Tia also allows Naga to unlock her extra ATK buff during burst, which helps Naga give an additional 48% instead of 16% ATK to the whole team.
Naga without tia:
Tldr: Heals, Cover heals, small buffs to core damage and a very minor atk buff.
She doesn't unlock her full potential without tia.
However she's more or less still usable as a basic support unit.
Without tia, she will still heal a decent amount of both cover and HP of allies. Her S2 will still provide a decent value for extra core damage. If paired with the likes of aria: during Aria's burst, it'll help her activate even higher core damage buffs from her S1. However this pair isn't really viable or recommended, she won't give the extra ATK buff during her own burst (which she will unlock with Tia), and she'll only give her core buff every 40 seconds I suppose
@minor walrus
S1>S2>Burst ?
I prefer s1 s2 together but most of us here would prefer s1 then s2
Based on the conversations
S1 is
Higher core damage buff(nice) and cover heal (eh)
S2 is
Lower core damage buff (eh) and HP heal (nice)
Burst is
ATK buff
I think I would say
S1 = S2 > B
So Ill go with that
I would level s2 till 7
Hmm, direct levels are nice to give
10/7/10 good enough?
It's too expensive to level it to 10 since it doesnt really increase much per level
so like
Tia/CDR/Naga/Alice/Maxwell sounds good?
Yep
10/7/10 is good, 10/7/7 is for people who are strapped for skill cards I say
boy do I need them
Skill recommendation:
S1 / S2/ Burst
10 / 7 / 7 or 10
the team sounds powerhouse tbh. Shame Guillotine still doesn't have a braindead team to use her in
Eh, whenever I use Noise with guillo, I have an easy time
I don't mind it much
why do we want to say S1 > B or B > S1 when they use different mats
I dont get the point of doing this
Burst prio should only be compared to other units imo
True, kind of telling if the burst is worth levelup at all
Priority means which one you should do first / which one you should focus on
so we can level someone else's burst first
Burst may not be as important, such as on noir
While skills like noir s2 might be very very important
but you can focus on Burst and S1 at the same time
well I guess it does say a little about how good a burst is
Someone else's burst may be higher priority 
I'd rather put Alice burst to lvl10 before say, modernia's I guess
So it's just to give them an idea of whether the skill is worth leveling or not
Are there any achilles heels? Like I know a lot of people mentioning bosses that don't attack enough to damage cover, or bosses that do TOO much damage so covers are immediately killed
Unit power scaling.
Edit: Got it to work, I probably screwed up something when I ran the earlier tests.
I want to be wrong, but does it seem like Naga’s Applying Shield for her burst is bugged and doesn’t trigger?
Folkwang S1, 30s CD: Applies shield to highest 2 ATKs on team.
Start a battle, order team to take cover, wait for Folkwang to shield Naga (of course, make sure she’s highest 2 ATK in team).
Pause and check buffs. You see team has received Guardian of Friendship.
Retry the battle, burst Naga shortly before Folkwang would shield Naga. In my test, I had R B1, R B3, Folkwang B2, Naga B2. No way in hell the others surpassed Naga’s ATK during burst…
Naga is shielded as expected. Guardian of Friendship is activated as expected.
However, As Long As We’re With Friends doesn’t activate the higher ATK buff. Team continues to get the weaker one (at lvl 1 it’s 9%, meaning it seems like the 17% is wasted/no-show).
Whats S1 base
how did you activate naga's burst while shielded with folkwang? they are both b2
Folkwang has a passive every-30s trigger of shielding. S1
Just burst with Naga before she casts it. You can check battle timer to find when she’d do it, in a previous retry.
In my test I saw she casted it at 0:59 seconds remaining (I used Simulation Room)
So I bursted at 1:02
And at 0:59 received the shield on Naga
Still just 9% ATK
lemme check
I also tested the other way around - bursting after Naga’s shielded
Meaning at 0:57 I bursted Naga. Same thing
Yes
As I mentioned, I also tested that. Just in case.
Let me see
With folk
Only way to test it
Isnt that early?
“Time remaining” - it’s a countdown
0s - Operation Failed - Skill Issue, basically
Hmmmm. At what burst level?
4
I’ll try again later and if it’s still bugged, I’ll level her burst and see what happens
I got both the weaker and stronger variant active at the same time
And it was Naga bursting while she had a shield applied? Not afterward?
@indigo mural is your Naga 2nd highest ATK?
here
Sequence: Naga gains Shield. Naga then bursts. Team now has Two ATK buffs from As Long As We’re With Friends?
yep
Attempting it now
Ok its
wait till folkwang s1 is active, then burst with naga
S1 = B > S2

I didn't add the skill prio in pins
I added the exact numbers for now
But yeah, I think I agree
Burst is as good as Liter
That's true, 48% atk buff is no joke
Yep got it working as well, thanks!
86.67%
Not sure what went wrong earlier but I probably screwed it up
40.9% DPS attack buff
All good, no bugs yet
naga gonna make my sw/alice pop off
how's testing so far? is naga a must-pull? I got my bunnies still
what content do you care about
I just started playing.. only started ch.6
don't have modernia or scarlet yet either
so I'm thinking I just save for anni, and then wait until they drop into regular pool
tia naga is better bunnies
they're beyond broken 
oh.. that sucks
you can't test naga fully atm because her partner in crime tia isn't here yet
half of naga's kits are practically missing
without tia
and I was so excited when I got bunnies and litter
and thought I was onto the best start
just to have them replaced in 2 weeks
calm down, bunnies are still more versatile
what happens when you fight a boss with no core to hit
that +120% core damage is pointless
Must pull
I don't think I've seen bosses yet without cores?
Nihilister harvester grave digger
are those cores those parts that get destroyed by players
alteisen, modernia
I might just be too new to understand
chatterbox
excuse me 🙂
Technically they all have cores
so I gues sin that sense, should I let them fall on regular banner or
should I roll on banner, when anni is around the corner
alteisen has one but only if you have pierce
Only 6 units can hit the core for train though
Naga got pierce 
even without core:
1.32x damage, 100% up time
47% supporter's atk buff (=39% attacker's attacker)
vs
1.39x damage taken for 10s applying once every burst cycle
14% attacker's atk buff
bunnies have ammo refresh
Huh
how does that compare to litter > blanc
? What is there to huh
Only harvester has no core
and teambuilding is not restricted to having to run 2 b1
??? Where does nihilister have a core
but it's just that you won't focus it because of qte
Still a core
Dont tell me LE has core then
I didn’t
Wasn’t aware gravedigger had a core though
Time to use my Alice in grave digger si
but I don't see any red CORE HIT popups when shooting parts that you would consider core
say, if I have limited skill manual resource, should I up Naga S1/S2 first, or save it for Tia's S1?
I would say tia's s1 first
If u autoaim, it's easy to core
ah alright then, thanks
I wish they drop skill reset soon 
they're only dropping skill reset when reworking skills
You're fine with liter and the bunnies. The people saying they're must pulls are talking in the context of try-harding raids and still, can't really say for sure since her partner isn't released yet. The bunnies are more versatile for normal content.
for story content you can use liter bunnies for entirity of story and be fine
you can also probably use tia naga when they're online and also be fine
but for raids they're a must pull cause of the variety of teams you need to have prepared
ah, okay
sounds like you probalby just started playing? I would say continue focusing on liter bunnies but keep tia + naga in the back as units to invest in when you get later into the game and start raiding
That is if you can afford to roll for both of them since they really are tailor made for each other. Plus since anniversary is coming up, they'll probably release another "must pull" unit
^ this is correct
I whaled pretty hard recently
so I have 131 rainbow tickets, 150 regular ones
and like 50k gems
you can probalyb afford to get a copy of tia + naga with decent luck
and then ticket the anniversary banner
there's a couple trains of thought here:
- skip the banners, wait until they drop in the regular pool, and expect them to spook me via regular ones
- roll on the banners, use the gold pity to get the anni character
getting 2 specific units from standard is a rough bet
and generally, I think wait for tia to come out and all the testing to be done
and see if they're truly must-pulls
and the anni banner is probably gonna be a pilgrim so you could whale and still not get one
i would pull these characters on their banner
wishlist is for more niche shit
save 200 golden mileage and the anniversary character is yours
wishlist doesnt' apply to limited banners eitehr so if you want to get them on standard
you either gotta whale for standard tickets, or just pray
wishlisting for copies is less detrimental
luckily half the limited ones are shit anyway unless you are a collector
then it becomes a different game of pulling
is there any reason for me to even hold onto my tickets?
the regular banner tickets
yes a big reason
Yes
i would hold till anni





















