[Tia] New Unit Megathread

[trim pawn]

SI is locked at level 200

[tawdry walrus]

yeah so it shouldn't make my result different from someone else

[grim sundial]

I think liter s2 is still proc even covers are full

The green thing is liter doing

[tawdry walrus]

I think people are more worried about if the cover going from 100% to 100% counts as recovering HP though

[grim sundial]

Can let Tia afk so no taunt

[sudden anvil]

“Pick Up recruitment begins simultaneously!”

Begins?!?!?! So theyre dropping Tia and Naga at the same time??!

[grim sundial]

https://twitter.com/search?q=%40NIKKE_en Pick Up Pick Up recruitment begins simultaneously&src=typed_query&f=top

[sudden anvil]

Doesnt load…

[grim sundial]

link showed that there are a lot banners with “Pick Up recruitment begins simultaneously!”

[sudden anvil]

Yeah but tbh makes sense if Tia and Naga drop together

I said the same thing about A2 and 2B, cuz both lasted until end of the month

[grim sundial]

Nero Mast 2B D Modernia Dorothy etc

[frail sequoia]

who's should i pull first? prepare for the worst if can't get both

[trim pawn]

I think naga

actually nvm

if centi works with naga, then naga
if not, you need both

[glacial sluice]

using 2 20s b2 is yikes though

[trim pawn]

yea but the guy asked who to prioritize

naga has 2 offensive buffs
tia has 1

so you can run sth like volume naga centi + 2 dps assuming centi works with naga

[glacial sluice]

oh shit, just checked naga again. She can heal too

[sick coral]

since it's normal attacks and not last bullet, you can use ammo%?

[glacial sluice]

yeah, the pinned post suggest having at least 30%+

[sudden anvil]

She doesnt… Blanc, Centi, Poli all put shields on themselves which protects allies

[sudden anvil]

Yeah the 30%+ is so you can have at least 12 bullets to trigger S1 every reload and trigger S2 twice every reload

[trim pawn]

in shiftup spaghetti I believe

[mental bronze]

always need to test

never truly know until release

[cursive cipher]

ppl rly do be doing full on research before the units even out lol

thats crazy to me

[simple slate]

alot of players have been playing this game for long so they slowly can tell a unit is good or not before release

[worldly shadow]

Theorycrafting is a good way to inform players on a unit potential but still need actual testing to be done to make a good determination on a unit

[sudden anvil]

I mean you dont need 900IQ to figure out this game

[mental bronze]

i agree

was just talking about a specific interaction that would be nice to test just to be 100%

[cursive cipher]

lol

[dawn saddle]

^
game is doodoo

[spice trout]

How does thier self applied shield protect allies? Is it like if the ally got attacked the dmg directed to blanc/centi/poli shield?

[worldly shadow]

basically they generate a shield on themselves that tanks 1 hit for everyone

[spice trout]

I see, so Tia will be the first one to apply individual shields for the party

[worldly shadow]

no the first one

aria applies an individual shield for everyone and folkwang does it too for 2 highest attacks

[spice trout]

Ah I dont have Aria. Sorry for the lack of info

Anw Tia taunts worry me though, like how much the synergy suffer if Tia cover got obliterated? Thing like Solo Raid have stupid damage and if all of them goes to Tia then bye bye cover

[worldly shadow]

i mean if her cover is destoryed pretty sure the kit is ruined

which is why she heals it so much

[spice trout]

I see. Seems like this duo is high risk high reward than the simple twin bunny

[errant gorge]

we dont know if a 0 cover recovery counts as nothing for her skills yet

better wait for testing

[worldly shadow]

true

[errant gorge]

shitup does lots of counterlogic things

[worldly shadow]

cant trust their programming

[hardy fulcrum]

HP recov does

[lament crane]

So tia only gives shield on burst?

[mental bronze]

jesus dude read her skills at least do that much yourself

[lament crane]

They just released her kit in twitter. And everything else is cover

[tough iris]

their entire kits have been in-game since last maintenance on nikkepedia

[worldly shadow]

he probably didn't rtealikze they were in game

[grim sundial]

And these Megathread s have their kits on first post. Also check pin

[sudden anvil]

MLB Naga in 80 pull 0 50/50s lost. I CANT BE STOPPED

[sick coral]

but this is the tia thread

[ebon crest]

Bruh start Tia banner what is SU waiting for

[sick coral]

hardmode dazzling cupid

[vast hamlet]

I'm already hard what do we need hard mode for? smh

[sick coral]

get you harder

duh

[ebon crest]

Please pin this and send to shift up

It ain't taking us more than 12 hours to MLB Naga

Release Tia

[simple slate]

What if Tia is the main control and get “spammed” like centi/alice with lots of ammo in story

A2-Scar/Mod-Tia-Liter-Naga

If the spam is decent enough plus ok s1, Tia delay b0-b1 burst might bot significant during 1-2nd burst as liter still on cdr

Fast manual needed hmm to switch cover and aim

[wary geode]

Tia skill 1 have 40s cooldown is a nerf

[simple slate]

Similar to Biscuit when you spam her during biscuit burst

Spam Tia during her leech duration she could heal quite good

The leech get buffed by her s1 and naga burst

Feel so tanky

4 lines of ammo pls thank you

[wary geode]

the best you can get would be DEF

actually, does DEF the most useless stats on OL gear?

[simple slate]

Yep

[simple slate]

Naga banner so far on my observation lots of mlb below 100 pulls, easy get a copy from lots of players. So i copely suspect Tia banner could be rigged abit and bloody cuz her limit breaks seem worth much to me. You know some now and then we get rigged banner and bloodshed on people (i think one of bunnies was rigged)

[worldly shadow]

thats just coping

[prime cave]

https://tenor.com/view/tom-thats-just-a-theoyry-theyory-thery-theory-gif-21309496

[ebon crest]

Nice try Shift Up employe

[simple slate]

[cursive cipher]

actual conspiracy theory

[glacial sluice]

so 5 days left until tia releases?

[trim pawn]

more like 3?

[worldly shadow]

3 - 4 days

Somewhere between those numbers

[dawn saddle]

#events-schedule

[worldly shadow]

Ewww solo raid starts in 3 days too damn that hurts

No way my Tia will be ready

[trim pawn]

smh

[worldly shadow]

https://tenor.com/view/wailord-pokemon-whale-hello-gif-25422741

[trim pawn]

I just checked nikke.gg, this is only enough to level up 1 skill to level 10

[worldly shadow]

get shreked

[trim pawn]

but more than enough for 2 skills to level 7

so level 7 it is

with a bit more, enough for 3 skills at 7

[worldly shadow]

i mean

isn't tia s1 the most important

i think, you mighjt be safe toi take that to 10 immediaetly

then level up s2 up with the remaining books

[trim pawn]

I'm still cautious about tia naga honestly

[worldly shadow]

nah dont be

thats not like you

jump in full force

[trim pawn]

so gonna wait for 20 min sky recap video

[worldly shadow]

sky recap "roll"

[trim pawn]

ofc I’d roll but gonna see how damn good they are to justify rushing for level 10 skills

considering their niche and constraints

[valid cedar]

dang, did you stop upgrading in preparation for tia?

[trim pawn]

I haven't upgraded naga too

naga is still at 1/1/1

[valid cedar]

gotta upgrade naga too

[trim pawn]

i know, i know

[valid cedar]

unless you are just gonna instantly get tia s1 to 10 immediately

[trim pawn]

I'm not, probably tia s1 to 7
naga s1 to 7
naga s2 to 4
tia s2 to 4
naga burst to 7
tia burst whatever

but for solo raid, naga skills may not need much leveling

since modernia has no core hit after her core part is destroyed

[valid cedar]

tia burst prob to 4 for now

hmm yea, then maybe naga s2 to 7 if you need more healz

otherwise maybe all to 4 except for tia s1 and naga burst

[worldly shadow]

no idea how its gonna go though

core regens and what not

[grim sundial]

Meanwhile Dorothy's Burst happens to benefit from Tia's S1's Attack Damage buff, which is the major source of her DPS. Think of this is as a general DPS team.

real?

I though only atk buff work, can't test with atk damage only helm has it rn.

[simple slate]

test with and without helm now?

[grim sundial]

Dorothy need to be buffed before using burst

[simple slate]

oh thought u say her s1 sth before

[grim sundial]

S1 Tia

[valid cedar]

Oh right that angle

Also need to test doro s2

[grim sundial]

doro s2 is typical damage skill

[dawn saddle]

For what

[grim sundial]

it will work

[dawn saddle]

Its simple damage in S2

It's literally final ATK in Doro s2

And well, it's final ATK in burst as well so

[valid cedar]

Hey, you never know

Paranoia sets in

[grim sundial]

the question is will doro burst work with Tia s1

[valid cedar]

Guess you'll find out later

[dawn saddle]

My answer is yes

[shadow vortex]

Most likely not

Doro burst only scales with her attack stat

Attack damage is different multiplier

[dawn saddle]

Oh

Interesting take

You may be right

Now I'm in doubt again

[grim sundial]

i think we tested? that damage taken debuff didn't increase doro burst damage

so damage buff should be the same

but prydwin said it worked so i confused. They have test sever? they are probably right

[tepid gale]

shouldn't be the worst to test right now if you run helm along with isabel or vesti (or mihara!) to have helm buff active when doro bursts

or could just wait a few days, I'm lazy so will just do that. someone who's more motivated can test if they want

[hardy fulcrum]

SNAKE says it does

Not prydwen

Cus my answer is no

[grim sundial]

[hardy fulcrum]

You know I was sick and Snake wrote all that

[spiral field]

@hardy fulcrum I've been concerned that a team with both Naga and Tia will do likely do low damage in the Modernia Solo Raid

1. I get that Naga+Tia is like a 62% damage increase to core plus attack up, but the core part is there for roughly a quarter of the full bursts you do (ie roughly 20 seconds of full burst). Anytime else, there is no core other than the head which will be hard to hit without AR, MG, and SR
2. Wind element restrictions. This one is much harder to get around, since every solo raid boss so far has the immune to non weak element effect. If I were to take a wild guess, it would be on the interruption circles that goes with the giant slashing attack. In the case of the Naga + Tia team, that forces you to add 1 more option out of 5: Noir (honestly better with Blanc), Volume (best choice, but you might struggle on damaging interruption circles depending on investment), Pepper (you lose out on burst cdr in exchange for more healing that you likely won't need), D (ew bad damage and bad burst), and Epinel (ew even worse damage and even worse burst)

[hardy fulcrum]

Ask @dawn saddle not me

I was hospitalized for 2 weeks

[grim sundial]

ok i don't know that he is also prydwen member

[hardy fulcrum]

We dk what this solo raid modernia looks like yet

And I dont think theres element restriction this time

Based on twitter post

[hardy fulcrum]

Hes my slave

Im Antillar's slave

Snake also has slaves

In other words, a boss slaving slaves slaving slaves slaving slaves

[spiral field]

neither did this though
#ark-news message
tbf if you played event 2 1-12, it's the same pattern

[hardy fulcrum]

Datamine exists

We alr know the movesets

[spiral field]

hmm so same as challenge mode? Well that sounds pretty easy
But I'm still concerned a element immune bubble might be smuggled in

[hardy fulcrum]

They might change them tho

[grim sundial]

even if no core Tia damage buff+Naga atk buff is still good

no way they won't improve your team

[spiral field]

yeah, hence why I'm more concerned about the wind restrictions
Imagine trying to buff the nonexistent damage of D or Epinel

[grim sundial]

Boss will have wind restriction qte?

pls no

[spiral field]

well look at Solo raid s4, aka water train
even without scarlet and sanis, people went bananas with alice and other electric nikkes

and even with some fire element restrictions with S5, you could literally get away with just yulha in a Snow White team

now compare to S2, where water was very hard to optimize around despite it having decent supports

Best case scenario: this solo raid is more like Harvester solo raid, where elemental restrictions are not really a problem but something else is

[worldly shadow]

people are better at raiding now

than they were before too

water train is definitely a testament, imho, to the strenght of alice

[sick coral]

guilty?

you can at least get around epinel's stack conditions using guilty

[vast hamlet]

attack dmg buff from Tia/Helm is not basic atk?

[mental bronze]

it's the same as helm's buff
which works on skills

if you try using yulha with dorothy, you'll notice that dorothy's burst can be buffed by yulha's skill if you burst when dorothy has yulha's buff (not when the damage applies)
if the atk damage buff applies to dorothy before she bursts, it should work on her burst

making Tia one of the few nikkes that can buff dorothy's burst without compromising anything

[shadow vortex]

No, it's a separate multiplier, but it should be additive with part damage if nikke.gg formula is correct

[shadow vortex]

Yulha increase dorothy attack, which increases her burst damage cap

But with tia buff her attack stays the same = burst damage cap stays the same

[mental bronze]

there has never been a test of atk damage and dorothy's burst interaction so we don't know
all I know is that helm's atk damage buff does work on skill that says "deal % final attack as damage"

[errant gorge]

i think there has

by having helm s2 proc while running isabel/vesti

so that doro burst catches the last second of helm s2

[mental bronze]

yeah i just tested it against SI modernia

atk damage doesn't work

with dorothy's burst

this comp specifically

[glacial sluice]

so what now? Dorothy isn't good for tianaga comps?

[worldly shadow]

still the only option for most

since liter bunnies shoulnd't be separated

[glacial sluice]

but what about the fatassed rapper

[trim pawn]

doro kinda also want priv if you don't want to get caught off guard with waiting for 1-2sec of cd

[vast hamlet]

this is really sad... you said Tia/Helm passive affect the skill that say final ATK right? Modernia have it (the additional 3% dmg while landing a hit on enemy, this sound good but sadly she's 15s burst

who can profit more from her skill?

Wait, does burst affect by this skill too? (Guillotine have a burst that say xxxx% dmg of final ATK)

and S.Anis S2 too...

dayum, if it does work with these 2 that will make me want to play both with Tia/Naga even more

good for me that I left Naga s2 at lv.1

[vast hamlet]

wait... it didn't buff only skill dmg? basic atk too? this is what I tested on S.Anis. The team is Emma, Noah, S.Anis / Emma, Noah, S.Anis, Helm

S.Anis s2 **no Helm

• no burst
  Basic atk
  21126 no crit
  30490 crit
  239766 no crit
  377919 crit

• Burst
  Basic attack
  42303 no crit
  55845 crit
  S2
  520116 no crit
  719910 crit

---

S.Anis s2 ** with Helm

• no burst
  Basic atk
  21126 no crit
  30490 crit
  239766 no crit
  377919 crit

• Burst
  Basic attack
  46631 no crit
  61558 crit
  S2
  573324 no crit
  793557 crit

Sadly if didn't buff Gui burst...

[mental bronze]

yes it's pretty much 1.32x dps with the exception of dorothy's burst

[vast hamlet]

At first I thought it was giving only basic atk buff but then you say it's not, I thought I was misunderstanding and think that it give skill dmg instead now that it's not either but it give to both yes?pls don't say that you already give me the formula how did I just notice. I'm dumb af brother I don't even know how to calculate all that

[mental bronze]

yeah, now the problem is uptime
as someone mentioned we don't know if it has 100% uptime

[simple slate]

yall ready to get scammed on Tia banner?

[lament crane]

Jokes on you, I already spent all my gems

I mean I did get Naga in a few multi so can't complain

[spice trout]

When Tia

[vast hamlet]

#events-schedule

19 hrs

[ebon crest]

The shaft is coming

[simple slate]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/718054499377217539/1151486825987317780/RDT_20230913_1354168878006484681188930.gif

[torn frost]

Time for truth

[ebon crest]

Nah time to skip for wishlist

Save for Nikke II

[torn frost]

[simple slate]

First order of business, do we see some Blacksmith test ss here, any frima comp

[mental bronze]

ok

your cover doesn't need to take damage for s1 atk damage to activate

she's broken, alright

time to rolly rolly

[worldly shadow]

Oh shit

[valid cedar]

seriously? must pull must pull

[mental bronze]

yeah you can test by spamming rocket at blacksmith before his guns start shooting

and burst with tia

but her "increase cover max hp" does not trigger s1

[valid cedar]

I was just about to ask that lol

[smoky imp]

[valid cedar]

how about naga cover repair?

[mental bronze]

it does work

[valid cedar]

that should also work with full cover hp rite?

[mental bronze]

after 12 shots

[valid cedar]

can you test if cover is destroyed now?

kinda hard to do though

[mental bronze]

yeah that too let me try

[red stag]

is she broken?

should i use my mod in her inverse bunny suit?

[shadow vortex]

Lvl 1 skill

[smoky imp]

[mental bronze]

no, it does not work if her cover is destroyed

[valid cedar]

makes sense

when tia trigger her cover max hp increase, the cover hp stays the same right?

wondering if it works like mast or like noise burst

[red stag]

100/100 → 120/130 → 100/100

dont forget she increase AND heals it at the same time

[valid cedar]

so like noise max hp burst then?

[red stag]

what did you do wrong lol...

[red stag]

exactly

[valid cedar]

alright, you guys got any theories left to test?

[simple slate]

dude where is my ammo lines

[shadow vortex]

Not lvl s1

[valid cedar]

gg

[red stag]

man... its RNG

[dawn saddle]

Just test her survival

Can she outlive pain

In campaign

[main glade]

Verdict?

[vapid iris]

How’s tia looking

[red stag]

cant say for now

[vapid iris]

[main glade]

Xrupee gets oneshotted no?

[red stag]

im testing in shooting range for the CD

[main glade]

Even pre-OL we ran into situations where xrupee gets oneshotted

[simple slate]

let me bring her into a triple fart guys spawn

[main glade]

All the time

[dawn saddle]

Fuck Xrupee

Just try out tia

[main glade]

You need s1 to be high for no delay

The cooldown reduction scales on s1

[dawn saddle]

Tia is way different

[main glade]

[lament crane]

Of course

[smoky imp]

Tia gamers rise

[lament crane]

So...tia/Naga isn't anniversary bait?

[shadow vortex]

Yeah ik

[dawn saddle]

We dk yet for sure

We need to see how much damage Tia can survive to keep cover alive

[vapid iris]

How long will that take

[dawn saddle]

She released half an hour ago

Patience

[dapper crater]

3 days at most

[vapid iris]

My gambling addiction killing me tho

[dawn saddle]

Then get one copy

But no more

I recommend getting 1 copy anyways

[dapper crater]

Just don't use your gold pity yet

[valid cedar]

nah fuck it, pulled 140 times but no tia, got like 5 other dupes instead

no luck

gold pity used

[dapper crater]

Until u sure she is as good as the bunnies

[red stag]

kek

[valid cedar]

meanwhile, my sub acc got it in 10 pulls

[dapper crater]

You probably have more than one chance to use pity

[red stag]

lv 1 S1 tia = liter or git rekt

[vapid iris]

Let’s hope it goes better for me

[red stag]

everyone else = rng

[main glade]

Welp ping me once the verdict is out

Preciate it

[simple slate]

is gamin chair clip allowed @dawn saddle

[vapid iris]

Got noah and privaty

[arctic lion]

I'm waiting for @dawn saddle to do it 😄

[red stag]

welp, im slapping S1 lv 7

[dawn saddle]

Yes

Everything is allowed in research lab

Except nsfw I think

But remain ontopic

[vapid iris]

100 pulls and didn’t get her

[smoky imp]

[nimble silo]

[vapid iris]

Should i just gold pity

[brave heron]

I'm just gonna stop pulling after doing 6 attempts, not a single SSR

Gonna now wait until they get added in perm banner

[nimble silo]

Holy shit i completed blacksmith in under 1 minute with naga/tia lvl 1 skills and lvl 0 gear

[dawn saddle]

Do u have Naga slrdy

[vapid iris]

Ye

[dapper crater]

Well I mean anniversary is near, if you have like 400 pity go for it

200? Don't go whining on us at anniversary

[main glade]

Thats already been done isnt it

[vapid iris]

I’ve got 300

I mean if all comes down to it i can pull out the card

[dapper crater]

Oh that's actually safe I think

[nimble silo]

Wtf man this duo is op

[dapper crater]

100 took you like what.. a month?

[peak saffron]

Did your guys' naga n tia comps do more dmg in union range than your bunny girl comps

[main glade]

@peak saffron i didnt know u still play this

[wet dawn]

lmao ez 29 seconds on Blacksmith

[peak saffron]

I do lmao

I just got banned in the main discord server

[main glade]

One shot it with SW

[main glade]

Thats why I haven't seen u in ages

[peak saffron]

A lot more casual with my logins tho, just waiting for content

Yea lol

[main glade]

[peak saffron]

https://tenor.com/view/hug-hugs-love-anime-chuunibyo-gif-12887269

[wet dawn]

Unfortunately I'm not SW enjoyers

[mild beacon]

bunnies non core shot vs nagatia non core shot
4/4/10 blanc 10/4/4 tia

same damage

[dapper crater]

Blacksmith ez, test in train or smthing

[nimble silo]

how's your duo skills and gear lvl

[wet dawn]

How tf do I test train today smh

[dapper crater]

That's why I kept telling ppl to hold their cards

It's not even an hour yet

[valid cedar]

I mean they should be roughly the same according to the damage formula

[dawn saddle]

Oh can someone check if Tia buffs Doro burst

[spiral field]

what about solo raid?

[main glade]

Attack damage buff?

[red stag]

Tia skills imo
7/1/1 = very economic
7/4/4 = basic toughness
Beyond that = survival tank mastery

[mild beacon]

a lot of people still think noncore bosses will be bad

[dawn saddle]

Yeah, check if it buffs Dorothy burst

[dapper crater]

I haven't tried it, sr starts along with Tia banner huh?

[mild beacon]

blanc 66% uptime vs tia 100% uptime

tia are just better

[dawn saddle]

7.5 hours

[dapper crater]

But again need to wait like 2 or 3 days to reach challenge mode

[dawn saddle]

Tia = 100% taunt time

[dapper crater]

Ah plenty of time

[spiral field]

inb4 mod has iron bubble shield lol

[mild beacon]

campaign andy problem

smh

[paper compass]

so tia is better then Blanc?

[main glade]

Just don't die

[mental bronze]

tia shouldn't buff doro's burst but i'm in for one last cope

[simple slate]

loose 6k cp in total comparing to bunnies

[nimble silo]

gotta upgrade their gear and skills buddy

[red stag]

[nimble silo]

L

[wet dawn]

Tia 9/8/10 full OL3
Naga 10/9/10 full OL3 31 ammo per mag

[nimble silo]

holy they're both that skill hungry?

what's their skill recommendation anyways

[wet dawn]

Nah, I just simp for them

[nimble silo]

so what ol stats they want?

ammo cap?

[red stag]

ayo...

tia/naga > black/white

[valid cedar]

not really necessary, but attack/ammo cap helps a little

[simple slate]

4 hits later aye shiiiballl

[wet dawn]

idk, need to wait for ppl to test out more about stats

[spiral field]

what about for modernia solo raid?

[red stag]

blacksmith SI
4/4/4 naga & 7/1/1 tia both Lv 1 9TM = 39s
7/7/4 noir & 4/7/8 blanc both full OL = 45s

[dapper crater]

[spiral field]

is volume enough for wind carry?

[mental bronze]

Tia doesn't buff doro's burst on my end

[dapper crater]

Interesting

[red stag]

chotto matte, what solo raid!?

[mental bronze]

same as helm, i didn't expect much

[red stag]

[dapper crater]

Play the game

[valid cedar]

the solo raid thats going to released some time today?

[red stag]

but... i dont see it

[spiral field]

6 hours

[red stag]

god...

i thought it was NOW

[weary temple]

skill priority for Tia please

[red stag]

[dapper crater]

The notice is literally the first thing that pops up when you logged in

[red stag]

i was already in game

i dont close my game lul

[dapper crater]

Skill 1

[dapper crater]

Well the red dot exists

[weary temple]

Thanks

[grizzled gust]

10/1/1

[grim sundial]

cover doesn't need to be damaged for tia s1 proc

[simple slate]

indeed idle game, aint no way

[red stag]

i stopped bothering with them

[weary temple]

Thank you

[grizzled gust]

also i tested. she works with cocoa/liter which means if you can't pull naga, you can do a team like tia/cocoa/shelm or tia/liter/marciana but with stricter time restriction. as long as you burst no faster than at x:55, x:40, x:25, x:10 your atk damage buff and cdr will be permanent and as a correlation your cdr stacks won't drop.
her skill 1 must be AT LEAST level 7 with cocoa/liter due to how her cdr works if you want to full burst comfortably. naga also negates this need since her cover recovery is pretty fast

[dapper crater]

It's nice not having OCD I guess 🗿

[red stag]

[weary temple]

A good core will be Tia/litter/Naga/B3/B3 ?

[dapper crater]

Raising skill 1 to 7 is not that expensive. She is looking good

[dapper crater]

I believe so

What other b1 that fits in with this duo other than Liter?

[weary temple]

I read that Volume can be good too but don't know really

[dapper crater]

Oh I remember that

[main glade]

Volume

[weary temple]

I will do some test litter vs volume

[valid cedar]

liter will literally do better

what sort of testing are you looking out for?

[mental bronze]

they're high on copium
the only reason she's good it because cdr is very strong boost of dps
crit will no doubt suck with tia naga because how it works with core damage

[dapper crater]

More like we are trying to find out if it's even worth it to put volume in

Rather than comparing it to Liter

[simple slate]

so if Tia Shield is gone she cant get the buff anymore?

[dapper crater]

Cuz Liter is mf god support in the game

[valid cedar]

you only got 3 good option: liter, dorothy, or volume

[dapper crater]

Yeah that's the problem I believe

[main glade]

I'm not sure why you said this as the context was a b1 that works with tia naga that isn't liter

[dapper crater]

Need cdr anyway

[simple slate]

bruh then pve kinda sad, she need to cover to prevent 1 shot, but if she cover she loose her buff
catch 22 dilema

[valid cedar]

those 3 are the only burst 1 cdr available right now lol

[dapper crater]

Ikr? Lol

[main glade]

Dorothy isn't even consistent

[dapper crater]

Good or not you will eventually use her

[main glade]

ackkksually there's sakura

[errant gorge]

https://tenor.com/view/shigure-ui-iasu-iasuru-vtuber-ui-gif-12062838640351283205

[dapper crater]

She did? I kinda slept on her release

[tough iris]

yes but the problem is that she's 40cd B1

[dapper crater]

That's ass

[valid cedar]

automatically disqualified

[dawn saddle]

Yeah, you can't use sakura with tia

[main glade]

Yeah its a set timing

Its 2x shittier than normal cdrs

[tough iris]

honestly don't know why they even did that when the better part of her burst is ONE time only

[main glade]

• shes 40s

[main glade]

But let's be real
Burst that reduces wind attack damage to 0 against u is

Pretty retarded if its not a 1 time thing

[tough iris]

yeah that's fine

but why 40s CD

[main glade]

Yeah true

[dawn saddle]

Someone share videos of Tia Naga

[simple slate]

Tia require some heavy manualing in map push, estimate potential damage that can take down her cover, too much control that at this point just alice bunnies and still better performance

[dawn saddle]

Keep sleeping

[dapper crater]

Where

[dapper crater]

I never woke up when I master the art of i framing

[errant gorge]

👀

[dawn saddle]

I knew it

[dapper crater]

[dawn saddle]

Constant full screen taunts can never work for campaign stage content

[main glade]

Bunnies is 40x easier

Than tia naga

[dawn saddle]

Unless they have 50 fucking minutes of invincibility

[simple slate]

just the problem is her cover get taken down and she loose s1 buff

[grizzled gust]

isn't this couple automatically disqualified since tia taunts all the ads and dies in 1 second?

[simple slate]

her survival is not problem

[dawn saddle]

But on bossing, I think micromanaging her cover can work

[simple slate]

her cover healed up very fast with liter/naga

[main glade]

Yeah for casual

[simple slate]

its just u hit that peak point cp gap and damage just too much for her cover

[main glade]

Tia and Naga are a hard pair

[dawn saddle]

Where blanc noir should be just superior?

[weary temple]

just for info for the test Litter (5/4/7), Volume (1/4/3) without any pretention

[main glade]

Cp gap literally has no effects on cover Hp

[simple slate]

if gaming chair alice yes

[dawn saddle]

^

He's right @simple slate

[simple slate]

if no alice then bunnies same or worse i believe

[errant gorge]

[main glade]

But the thing is, tia and Naga requires you to focus on other shit too

[simple slate]

no just the damage too big

[main glade]

Unlike bunnies

[simple slate]

cover takes like 2 hits gone

and thing just kinda 1 shot Tia anyway (the elite)

[main glade]

Depends on the mobs tbh

[dawn saddle]

Aite so who is testing her on bosses

[main glade]

If you're fighting ground mobs or specifically the hard hitters

Your cover will most likely be decimated

[simple slate]

yeah the small raptures, no problem, small damage, 2 elites , tight

[errant gorge]

solo raid out in 6 hours?

[weary temple]

A2 seems hard to be sustained by Naga

[dawn saddle]

It's modernia though

[main glade]

And even then I think like

[errant gorge]

internal core

just wait

[main glade]

The return for using those 2 efficiently

Is not worth it

Compared to bunnies

[simple slate]

yea

[errant gorge]

no one believes me

[simple slate]

u can put same control on alice and its superior

[dawn saddle]

Even if there is one
Modernia is a shit testing area overall?

I think whitesmith or blacksmith is the best test area for her

[errant gorge]

why wud it be a bad test

[dawn saddle]

Cuz that's insane damage

[peak saffron]

What's skill prio for naga

[red stag]

i mean... when you got every nikke... why use the one that are bad against a boss and call them bad overall when they are good outside?

[dapper crater]

S1>burst>S2 I think

[dawn saddle]

Tia's shield counters her laser, cover heal insanely fast

Tia has a 100% uptime damage buff, the machine guns barely do damage

Modernia is child's play for tia

[peak saffron]

Keep the others at 1?

or 4

[main glade]

This is to compare Tia Naga pair to Bunnies

And unfortunately the taunt, the damn taunt is the problem

😭

[errant gorge]

so you are saying its a bad test since its favorable? I guesss lmao

[main glade]

On bossing I doubt it matters

[dapper crater]

4 is alright, 7 to be safe

[main glade]

Since tia can dodge

[errant gorge]

tia - 10/4/4 (need 7 minimum on s1 ); naga - 10/10/10 (B=S1>S2)

[dapper crater]

This reminds me of Harran 🗿

[main glade]

No

The buff timer runs out first

Before dorothy damage is applied

[errant gorge]

already tested that atttack damage ^ doesnt affect doro burst

tested iwth helm s2

[peak saffron]

Why 7 minimum btw

[main glade]

Cooldown reduction

You need it for Tia to function(shes a 40s)

[peak saffron]

Bet imma do that rn

[valid cedar]

thats after doro has put her mark, perhaps things are different if she is buffed before doro puts her mark

[errant gorge]

i leveled to 10 immediately, but my unionmates say it sits on CD if its not at 7 at least

[red stag]

fucking poggers lol

[main glade]

[valid cedar]

maximum cope baby!

[simple slate]

auto gaming Tianaga > BlancNoir, still good signs the damage output much higher and lower the rng, especially the elites, they go down faster

[gloomy plover]

How long does it usually take to test characters? 1 week?

[arctic lion]

initially, what level skills are safe?

[main glade]

Depends on their complexity

[arctic lion]

I'm tihnking for low investment 4/4/4

[dapper crater]

Oh with the hype of this duo, it would not take that long

[dawn saddle]

In an ideal scenario
Tia Naga >>> bunnies

For example on shit UR bosses, and even bosses with adds that were walls, for example ch8H boss or ch16 boss

Cuz Tia's cover has extremely high recovery, and Naga provides high heals so you can allow for damage taken on HP as well for a bit. I think sacrificing some uptime on her taunt is doable as well since it's so high already, if you wanna get through some add waves.

[dapper crater]

That's a no no for Tia

[simple slate]

10/4/4

[errant gorge]

tia mandatory 7 4 4 minimum

[main glade]

Can tia naga win against bowtie

The ultimate test

[dawn saddle]

But in practicality, blanc noir are unmatchable due to micromanagement required on tia in possible cases

[main glade]

(Bunnies can)

[dawn saddle]

For sure

[main glade]

[dawn saddle]

I think they can

But yeah, I think you will have to sacrifice some uptime to clear bowtie

[simple slate]

pretty good auto comp, Modernia can burst its ok, when she not bursts she take full advantage of core damage on elite (may need to focus controling her during those times)

this one too

[main glade]

[errant gorge]

dont use tia naga with mod

[simple slate]

i think its fine...

[main glade]

I still think they're designed to be used with mod

[errant gorge]

[main glade]

[gloomy plover]

No test with mod + scar?

[simple slate]

just need to switch who burst when and modernia can take down elite

[simple slate]

i am i am

[dawn saddle]

Also Tia is even harder to use against stages where there are tons of those rope raptures that stun your nikke

Cuz she fucking taunts all of them

So instead, only liter bursts

[simple slate]

A2 just too good to clean out trash mobs and Modernia can take time to take down elite alone

[valid cedar]

just kill em first before she gets roped, ez

[grim sundial]

feel much better than bunnies Tia RL fill burst much faster than alice. against -40% cp
Tia does fine

[simple slate]

yeahhhhh

the pre-shot mobs

on auto A2+Tia give enough burst gen

A2 alone feel short

Moder scar Bunnies = ded

[vapid iris]

would this work

[main glade]

Against which stage

If she can help clear walls then

[simple slate]

walls feel the same

[simple slate]

look like no damage but its low stages so its fine

[dawn saddle]

I am leaning towards
Campaign S-SS, more to S
Bossing SS-SSS, more to SSS maybe

[main glade]

tia and naga against bunnies before they came out(probably):

[vapid iris]

what would you suggest then

[simple slate]

and Tia Taunt is not alwasy there so its fine she doesnt take much damage

[simple slate]

unsub prydwen

[gloomy plover]

Ask in team building and show your roster

[simple slate]

this is actually the first time the 2 elites not kill 1 of my nikkes but all alive

[dapper crater]

Would be nice if SU add testing ground where you can choose mobs/bosses in it

😤

[main glade]

Still waiting for this

[grim sundial]

random ch14 hard mode 14-12

[simple slate]

just need to control scar and can win ez, better than bunnies T_T

[dapper crater]

They don't want us to think, they want us to spend

[main glade]

Its a wall stage

[sage yarrow]

Ok so any tldr?

[main glade]

[simple slate]

https://tenor.com/view/chill-daddy-take-it-easy-calm-down-gif-13696124

[main glade]

No clear verdict yet

[sage yarrow]

[dawn saddle]

Prolly in a few hours

[sage yarrow]

Segs now

[dapper crater]

Go back to your habitats

Bonk!

[verbal trout]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/968098119717904433/1099579151977037924/D_KIll.gif

[mental bronze]

just don't skill issue tia

[tender imp]

which one should be OL'd first Tia or Naga?

[dapper crater]

Tia

[mental bronze]

alice + tia naga with little investment already perform better than alice + bunnies in shooting range

[dapper crater]

The shooting range

[errant laurel]

what skills?

[mental bronze]

7/1/1 and 7/4/6

[simple slate]

naga, for her buff

[errant laurel]

Tia 7/1/1 ?

[mental bronze]

yeah

[errant laurel]

alice and who else? A2? and what other B1?

[mental bronze]

liter bunnies alice scarlet
tia naga liter alice scarlet

there's better core hitters than scarlet for sure

[errant laurel]

did you OL them both?

[peak saffron]

What cubes are best with tia/naga

[mental bronze]

naga has OL glove, i dont have helmet

[main glade]

Bastion for naga(need 1 ammo OL)

Tia probably resilience as usual

[simple slate]

ok i got a clip @dawn saddle

[mental bronze]

naga with resilience can keep the buff permanently on with zero ammo OL as long as the boss doesn't jump around

[main glade]

[mental bronze]

resilience lv7*

[peak saffron]

Bet

[dawn saddle]

Tribe tower 155

Easier with blanc noir than Tia naga

Under lvl 260

[simple slate]

CP 319250 vs 455200 (mini wall stage, not hard wall, i think this is Alice stage to rush the boss down) @dawn saddle

could see Modernia Scar Noir here do the same, but will struggle with burst gen

i think the core buff to rush boss/elites is good

[peak saffron]

Why bastion btw

is her dmg output acc noteworthy

[main glade]

Permanent s2 uptime

It loops into itself

Always

[peak saffron]

O ye I see it

You think it's worth leveling up resilience to 7

[dawn saddle]

Hmm yeah, definitely worked out here

Key principle is if you can take out mobs fast enough

Those 1 shot mobs

[simple slate]

yeah hence i use A2. so dps can focus elites

[valid cedar]

its the 2nd best cube after bastion, so go nuts

[dapper crater]

Yeah absolutely

[peak saffron]

What cube do ygs use for liter

[tough iris]

anything

it literally doesn't matter

[main glade]

Quantum relic

(I dont know what to use)

[dawn saddle]

This is a tough call honestly, Tia ideal is so huge and insane

Non ideal is very rough, it's way harsher than blanc noir's

[dapper crater]

Because it has "quantum" in it. It makes nikke feels smart

[grizzled gust]

wat

[main glade]

[main glade]

[red stag]

Tia benefits more from getting dupes than naga?

[simple slate]

no

just OL her

if she feels shy

[red stag]

i did, im just curious dupe wise

[main glade]

Its only a micro level with the same logic as xrupee( you only get more copies to tank more hits, and die anyways)

[simple slate]

[main glade]

Naga benefits more since it increases base stats

[red stag]

[simple slate]

if no gaming chair tia, feels like she doesnt taunt

[vagrant oriole]

who badder tia or naga

[red stag]

so min-max wise, just LB2 + OL and im good?

oki dokie

[peak saffron]

naga no question

[peak saffron]

Lmao

[vagrant oriole]

what does OL mean

[dapper crater]

It is, visual wise cuz damn those tits are to die for

[red stag]

but what if you show tia your "dragon"?

[peak saffron]

Naga no question

[red stag]

[red stag]

OverLoad gears

mmm

imma S1 lv 10 tia

more attack

[simple slate]

idk how big is tia healing yet anyone tested it?

need to see if she needs more ammo to leech up

[red stag]

i mean... its every 5 shots & bursts

doesnt she needs to be manually controlled to spam heal?

[simple slate]

yeah thats the idea

[red stag]

shes not restricted by "full charge" effect

[simple slate]

im seeing people be spamming her in SR

biscuit gave me good feeling about it

[red stag]

definitely gonna be the deal

[worldly shadow]

Does the Tia spam hamper the Alice team

Probably easy enough to spam 5 shots every rotation

[red stag]

• fast burst charge
• fast heals
• constant taunt
• constant cover max hp increase

WAIT

fuck

the max hp cover

[spiral field]

what about the elemental bubble?

[red stag]

its better to let it expire for it to heal no?

[tame wagon]

blacksmith interception

[simple slate]

no she can heal, the moment u spam her is her switching cover/hp already

[dawn saddle]

Can't say anything for that rn

Tia is iron anyways

[red stag]

but like

[dawn saddle]

Not wind

[red stag]

S2 says 5s effect

if you speed spam her, the max hp never expires

thus you dont recover

unless because of BURSTING, it wont matter?

[simple slate]

:icon_skill2: Skill 2: Chameleon Invisibility
■ Activates after landing 5 normal attack(s). Affects self.
Cover's Max HP ▲ 32.75% of the caster's Max HP, lasts for 5 sec.
Attract: Taunt all enemies for 5 sec.
■ Activates when using Burst Skill. Affects self.
Recovery of Cover's HP ▲ 21.41% of the caster's final Max HP.
Recovers 21.96% of attack damage for 10 sec.

Recovers 21.96% of attack damage for 10 sec. = heal her or cover?

heal her hp right? so why wait

[red stag]

unknown...

[simple slate]

bro

[red stag]

imma try to test in SI

[tame wagon]

the cover max HP ^ doesnt count as cover heal

so it doesnt trigger her S1

[red stag]

no no, i was just wondering if its better to spam shoot or let the max hp expire

[tame wagon]

it's better to let it expire then reapply

[peak saffron]

Dorothy or liter in a naga/tia comp or would it be more situational

[red stag]

ok

the lifesteal is for the nikke

not the cover

[tame wagon]

isnt that like
Super obvious?

[red stag]

gotta confirm with people who DONT think its obvious

[simple slate]

[tame wagon]

wtf

okay

[valid cedar]

yea that wording is so off at first glancce

[tame wagon]

no its not off

[red stag]

hence why theres manual for people who think that touching a hot oven is not gonna burn them

[tame wagon]

it's bloody obvious

[red stag]

but you never know...

[valid cedar]

for other languages its the same wording apparently for lifesteal

[red stag]

we got cover heal and cover defense nikke skills
we got cover reflect effect from SIM

[valid cedar]

for english, somehow its missing the usual recover hp wording

[red stag]

so a nikke pulling off a cover lifesteal effect might exist in the future

[tame wagon]

the cover max HP increase works just like noise
you get the HP increase for when applying the buff and need to let it wear off

[red stag]

tho i want my cover reflect damage nikke skill..

[valid cedar]

I thought that was her skill at first glance when she was announced

[tame wagon]

english NIkke is known to be missing words here and there in the skill description lolz

[red stag]

imagine reflecting nihil's fire breath

[tame wagon]

like increase healing potency has 3 different wordings

[valid cedar]

thats why you treat the bloody description with absolute caution because who the hell knows what they exactly mean sometimes lol

[errant gorge]

https://tenor.com/view/shigure-ui-iasu-iasuru-vtuber-ui-gif-12062838640351283205

[red stag]

just like naga's S1 & burst effect

when applying shield
bro just say "when an individual shield is in effect"

its clear as day

people dont wanna do additional clicking to check orange text that says "lolol stop using centi to trigger naga effect, use tia instead"

[lament crane]

But but but I invested in centi

[red stag]

[valid cedar]

you can still use her....in pvp

[red stag]

Team 5 SR kek

[main glade]

I would just have them add the panel where you can see the character that applies these type of buffs instead tbh

[tame wagon]

anyways
Tiga is at least bunnies tier confirmed?

[red stag]

THIS YES

orange texts need to add icons of nikke that triggers effects

[main glade]

Like when a shield is applied, you click on the word and you see a panel of nikkes with "Affect all allies" shield

[dapper crater]

Adding her to wishlist fr

[valid cedar]

currently verdict seems to be, you need to enter gamer mode when clearing a mission with a really high cp penalty because tia will die from her taunt

[simple slate]

if u dont spam her

[lament crane]

Taunt strike again

[simple slate]

the mobs/elite still aim at other nikkes

[tame wagon]

nah im pretty sure it's super high uptime even if you dont spam her atk

[valid cedar]

there's that, spam alice instead so you burst kill all the rapture

[tame wagon]

it's 5s taunt for 5 hits

RL hit like 1.2 s/s

[simple slate]

and without controlling her she may just move her crosshair around a bit too

[tame wagon]

just dont use her in campaign ggez

[simple slate]

nope

[tame wagon]

my verdict is : if you dont plan to SR try hard, Tiga is optional.

[lament crane]

What about union raid? Are Tiga in team 2 or 3?

[dawn saddle]

I'd still put Naga must pull

She be doing too much

[dawn saddle]

Yeah, prolly...

Naga is a great option to provide survival for team

[main glade]

Fair

[tame wagon]

naga?

[main glade]

I feel like Tiga is only for UR/SR

Only

[tame wagon]

as a discounted rapunzel?

[dawn saddle]

Way better than rapunzel can imagine herself to be

[lament crane]

They tried to pair a meta nikke to xrupee 2.0 and still not enough

[dawn saddle]

Only benefit Rapunzel has is her revive

Naga is better heals, cuz she's not only healing cover, but giving more healing

[tame wagon]

naga better heal?

[main glade]

Tbh being a b0 was never the problem

[dawn saddle]

Yes

[main glade]

It was mainly because of the taunt

[lament crane]

Ya, taunt and some defensive ability can't fix taunt

[tame wagon]

the cover healing shouldnt be included

[dawn saddle]

I'm not including it

[tame wagon]

it's not very useful most of the time

[dawn saddle]

Rapunzel healing isnt a lot man

[tame wagon]

[dawn saddle]

Naga is higher target heals than rapunzel

@gatrix
Confirm it for me

@tame wagon
#1154344840465743914 message

Check gatrix pin

S2

[simple slate]

lots of damage, but just Healing not enough in like 2+ fart guys encounter

[tame wagon]

Rapunzel heal 4%x3 per 1.2s
Naga heal 9.6% x2 per 3.75s

[simple slate]

[main glade]

[dawn saddle]

@gatrix

[tame wagon]

so rapunzel heal 12%x3 per 3.6s

that's lower?

[dawn saddle]

Hmm maybe reload times play into it

Naga is 1.5
Rapunzel is 2.3

[tame wagon]

[dawn saddle]

But yeah, that was his math

[tame wagon]

ammo OL and charge speed OL fix everything

[dawn saddle]

Why would you ever Reroll Rapunzel

[tame wagon]

some people does

but counting reload time is cope

just ammo line fix it lol

[dawn saddle]

Hmm idk, ammo benefits Naga more too

[tame wagon]

rapunzel heal more and heal more units

[dawn saddle]

Cuz 9 base ammo vs rapunzel's base being 6

[tame wagon]

just healing 3 units compare to 2 is already 50% more

if you think reload time somehow matters then ....

[dawn saddle]

I'll just ask gatrix for his math

[tame wagon]

no no no

just do your own math

and dont take someone words for it

[dawn saddle]

I can't math

I forgot how to math

[main glade]

Gatrix and Kosmiu does math better than I do

[gloomy plover]

Yeah math is hard

[main glade]

(I'm lazy)

[tame wagon]

[main glade]

[simple slate]

if Naga current hp is low she heals less right?

[gloomy plover]

I used to be good at math, Thai Asian, moved to Sweden now I can only do + -

[main glade]

[tame wagon]

all heals are based on final max HP

[dawn saddle]

@tame wagon

5SG is faster than 3RL

[simple slate]

so its a yes ?

[dawn saddle]

[lost echo]

skip with bunnies or pull?

[tame wagon]

no

[simple slate]

so her heal is constant ?

[tame wagon]

its not

it's like, about the same time

[errant gorge]

[dawn saddle]

For PvP
3RL is slower than 5SG

[red stag]

But... rap heals 3 people while naga heals all no?

[dawn saddle]

[tame wagon]

like milisecond slower

[dawn saddle]

For Naga, single target matters more cuz her pair is Tia
But yeah

[lost echo]

are they actually bunny killers or were ppl just too hyped?

[red stag]

Oh just 2

[dawn saddle]

No, 1 full SG shot slower

[red stag]

Nvm

[simple slate]

She heals the 2 lowest

[tame wagon]

cap

[dawn saddle]

Bro wdym cap

[tame wagon]

Rl is ~ 1.25s/ shot

3 shot is ~ 3.75 no?

[dawn saddle]

Hmm lemme recheck

[tame wagon]

SG is 0.75s/ shot

5 is exactly 3.75

[red stag]

Party Aspd nikke where

[tame wagon]

@lost echo

[red stag]

B1 Party +40% ASPD would make naga good healer?

[dawn saddle]

Yeah it's like
2RL, 5SG, 3RL, 7SG
Where 3rl~6sg

Specifically 3rl ~ 6sg

[tame wagon]

dude stop using pvp chart

[simple slate]

i dont think u bring naga for heal, gotta kill them before they fart u to ded

[errant gorge]

wut we arguing about

[tame wagon]

naga vs rapunzel heal

[lost echo]

thats equal but also blanc without noir but priv

[errant gorge]

ok but why is rapunzel in the convo

she shit

[lament crane]

In the tia channel

[red stag]

KFC vs MCDonalds

[tame wagon]

blanc priv is bunnies on drug
for a single burst

[lost echo]

hmm oh i see

[red stag]

Blanc without noir is pvp thinking

[lilac ledge]

They abit better, although they not as auto friendly as bunnies, also;

1. dp needs enemies to have core
2. Tia needs min lvl7 for skill1
3. Tia cant hv her cover broken or her effectiveness halves

[lost echo]

also how do you kill bs in 15 sec

[tame wagon]

i can kill 4 out of 5 interception boss in 15s or less

[lost echo]

oh damn i see

[arctic lion]

tia/naga better with doro or litter?

[red stag]

So in short; Bunnies > JKs for a single handed game, is that it?

[lost echo]

😭

[errant gorge]

tia naga are better with liter over doro, but blanc noir only work with liter

[red stag]

W0t

Only?

[errant gorge]

volume simp?

[red stag]

No but... w0t?

[lilac ledge]

They both equal cuz they both got the sweet chocolate that i like

[errant gorge]

[red stag]

But i need to manual the jk while i dont for bunnies, no?

[dawn saddle]

Liter is the goat

[arctic lion]

got it

ty

[lament crane]

Liter too stronk

[lilac ledge]

Its because sometimes tia burst is slower than liter/doro by like 1 sec, meaning it will skip her burst

[worthy kayak]

auto burst in this age

[simple slate]

how its slower? lv1 ?

[red stag]

I wanna play nikke like they advertise it; one hand in... "the game"

[lilac ledge]

I lvl 7 it, the 2nd burst rotation somehow tia always slower

Not enough testing yet tho tbf

[lament crane]

No one stopping you tho. Just don't expect to top the chars

[simple slate]

hmm interesting, i thought at lv4 she already always faster than liter

[red stag]

I let my nikkes top me

[lament crane]

Marriage system when

[red stag]

No...

Not that

Imma marry anderson if its available

[lament crane]

Anyways.... back to tia. Is her verdict decided?

[red stag]

Imo

[dawn saddle]

I mean the verdict is obviously get one copy

At least

[red stag]

Pull for SR
wishlist if you dont care for ranking

[dawn saddle]

She's there for raids

I'm sure she'll fit in UR as well

There are shit bosses that can't output damage

[red stag]

JK + Bunnies = garanteed strong teams

[lament crane]

One copy at least? I thought she was optional. Naga was the one copy must have

[dawn saddle]

Naga Tia will roll them over like a cake

Nah

[lilac ledge]

The verdict is that they are equal to bunnies if not stronger

[dawn saddle]

For raids, Tia Naga are top tier

[lilac ledge]

U can decide to pull or not

[dawn saddle]

Only problem is usability drops at high damage for Tia naga

[red stag]

Im going by the logic of less thinking about team builds for UR/SR

[dawn saddle]

I'll write a paragraph after I'm done pushing in a sec

[lament crane]

So just don't use them for hard mode and they will preform?

[errant gorge]

ur account bricked if you dont have tia naga

[simple slate]

use them for hardmode

[lilac ledge]

U mean if we do high dmg or we on the receiving end of high dmg?

[dawn saddle]

Not once did I say that

[red stag]

At the end of the line...
Whale on cores to have lv 500+ nikkes and clap the game

Even a lv 500 soline can clap hard mode and UR

[dawn saddle]

If Tia is getting hit by a lot of damage in a very very short window

She cannot sustain herself at all and the buffs fall significantly.

That's the only real problem

The problem is that Tia is taunting everything with a 100% uptime

[lilac ledge]

Ah yes, she becomes bad as soon as her cover is gone