[Tia] New Unit Megathread

[worldly shadow]

[simple slate]

She going to get hit like a lap dog

[worldly shadow]

if you need her in campaign then you can justify oling her

but if you avhe the standard campaign team you can avoid oling most supports

[ebon crest]

honestly think you gonna have to remove Yuhla from the comp for this one

[worldly shadow]

never

[ebon crest]

I don't see SW Yuhla breaking the core without off setting Yuhla skill

Unless they completely remove Mod Oppenheimer attack , which is highly unlikely

[worldly shadow]

im sure it'll be possible

[hardy fulcrum]

Volume Blanc A2 Noir Guilty moments

[ebon crest]

burst first with SW

[hardy fulcrum]

[ebon crest]

At 30s mark the buff falls under Yuhla burst

So you hold SW burst again until Yuhla next S2 proc or brick

[hardy fulcrum]

Ok let me hold my burst for 30s

[ebon crest]

And if Mod has time gated mechanics , the resets this time

[hardy fulcrum]

Boom get stunned

[ebon crest]

Sounds like fun

[valid cedar]

wont it be easier to just burst yulha first? lol

[worldly shadow]

want to pop that core

[ebon crest]

Who will break the core

Volume

[worldly shadow]

naga gonna break the core

[valid cedar]

solo volume time

[worldly shadow]

[ebon crest]

4 Ele Volume gaming

[hardy fulcrum]

4ELEVolume 4ELEBlanc 4ELENoir 4ELEGuilty A2

Easy win

[ebon crest]

If Ds buff was entering FB and not D burst just maybe

[hardy fulcrum]

Huh

[ebon crest]

D's parts damage buff is tied to her bursting

Instead of entering FB

So kinda rules her out as a option for SW

[hardy fulcrum]

Nahman

Dont use D here

[ebon crest]

And honestly I think D would be plain more valuable for the weaker comps

[hardy fulcrum]

After 30 secs

[ebon crest]

Exactly

[hardy fulcrum]

Her damage is jacksheet

[errant gorge]

[ebon crest]

D only really purpose is for a comp that can't break core

[hardy fulcrum]

SW just use Maxwell

Why

Why Yulha?

[ebon crest]

We love Maxwell Alice

[hardy fulcrum]

Nah

If ure not using Doro SAnis

Dont do that

[ebon crest]

But Shift Up don't want that anymore

[hardy fulcrum]

Use Doro Naga Tia Alice Priv

Instead

Just

Dont

[ebon crest]

Hol up his cooking

[hardy fulcrum]

Nah if ure not using SAnis doro priv

[errant gorge]

i wud eat at kisenix's restaurant

some good shit

[hardy fulcrum]

Then

[simple slate]

Ok serious question, what is Tia skill priority?

[ebon crest]

but then again that leaves Miranda for SW/MW

And I'm not a fan of MW/SW Miranda, MW steal the buff

[errant gorge]

10 4 4

[hardy fulcrum]

• Doro Naga Tia Alice Priv
• Liter Blanc A2 Noir Guilty/Mod
• FLEX Dolla SW Max FLEX
• Volume Mast 2B flex flex
• flex flex flex flex flex

[errant gorge]

dont run sw max with miranda

miranda is solo carry comp

[hardy fulcrum]

Ok N102 then

[ebon crest]

Miranda with SW/MW

[hardy fulcrum]

Jokes on u

Add Helm

Idk

U satisfied now?

[ebon crest]

you are cooking again

[errant gorge]

hoenstly

[ebon crest]

With N102

[errant gorge]

that cook isnt that bad lmao

i wud just drop guilty

ass unit keeps baiting ppl

[ebon crest]

We need resets again man

[hardy fulcrum]

Wdym

[ebon crest]

Fuck Guilty

[hardy fulcrum]

Guilty is good

Its fucking Iron boss

Bitch

[ebon crest]

[hardy fulcrum]

[errant gorge]

[ebon crest]

[hardy fulcrum]

I mean if ur Guilty has 2 elemental OL

She is insane

You dk

You will never know

[ebon crest]

I have 1 Ele on Guilty atm

[hardy fulcrum]

And Guilty is a good bait

She has high attacj

[errant gorge]

[hardy fulcrum]

But i wanna use Doro SAnis so bad

Copium time

[ebon crest]

Inb4 mod attack highest defense to fuck with us now

[hardy fulcrum]

N102 SAnis Biscu Priv Dolla

Wait

Nvm

N102 ammo buff

Cant COPIUM this

Sad life

[ebon crest]

We could all be planning prematurely and Mod element is water weak or something

Wouldn't be the first time they shafted us

[hardy fulcrum]

Oho time to run Exia copium

Or maybe Pepper

Dunno which copium

Pepper Biscuit seems

Good copium

[ebon crest]

it's only a matter of time before you try Julia

[hardy fulcrum]

Its alr datamined

Hang on come to eden

[worldly shadow]

your lack of sw is showing

[hardy fulcrum]

I have to agree

But as long as I remain top 100 I dont care

[worldly shadow]

baby server

[hardy fulcrum]

Who tells u to pick NA

[worldly shadow]

fak u

[hardy fulcrum]

Free 9k every month

Jk

Bruh I feel

Like Noah will be used here

I dont have her thto

FUCK

• Noah immune
• Tia/Naga repairs cover
• Biscuit rebuilds cover
• Liter repairs cover

Ok

Fuck this game

[ebon crest]

I see it now

Healer less comp doesn't sound very fun anymore

[hardy fulcrum]

Yeah I feel like

Doro Naga Tia will be used

Liter shud go with Blanc Noir because they dont have cover repair

And then I can use Volume with SAnis + Biscuit

Its a bit sad but doable

Then the rest 2 team will have Modernia

If I have Cocoa

That would be good too

Fuk

[ebon crest]

I will see the Volume School Girls dream

[hardy fulcrum]

I can run like Cocoa SHelm Drake Heln Mod or something

[hardy fulcrum]

Yeah u can but

Alice will go there

100%

U want Alice to be with Volume instead?

Dont man

Core hit dilutes crit

Volume doesnt make sense

[worldly shadow]

im sure my alice doro team will destroy the core in 1 second

[hardy fulcrum]

Thats why

Doro Tia Naga Alice Maxwell

[ebon crest]

Is the core gonna Regen though?

[worldly shadow]

so no need for cover repai

the wrost part of modernia

[hardy fulcrum]

I dont think the wipe attack is related to core

[worldly shadow]

is its going t ocome down to skipping teleport phase

[hardy fulcrum]

Read the datamine

Its activated after sometime

Maybe 1:30

And 00:45

Or something

I expect it to do once at the start

Then once after forced flying phase ends

[ebon crest]

"powerful cannon from both shoulders" that stuns

Definitely not tied to core

[hardy fulcrum]

And its uncancellable

Why would they sell Tia Naga then

[worldly shadow]

tia heals her cover though

no?

[hardy fulcrum]

I bet this time Mod's core will be exposed

[worldly shadow]

not the team cover just her own

[hardy fulcrum]

Naga?

[worldly shadow]

no tia

[hardy fulcrum]

Naga repairs entire team fast

Tia only herself

Both repair team cover

[worldly shadow]

ah ok naga does it

[agile trout]

Naga>Tia

Better waifu

[ebon crest]

Package deal comrade

[worldly shadow]

ok so for team 3 or w/e

folkwang aria back in

[agile trout]

Sure, but Halloween and Red Hood are nigh

[hardy fulcrum]

But heres the thing

U see Naga's kit

That the buffs last 10s on applying shield?

You know what that means?

If u use Tia

Thats not 100% uptime

People will split them

100%

The tryhards

I can see them running Liter Tia Centi

But its dumb

Really dumb

Thats why I sent her to Alice's team

Because you need to cycle fast

Or lose uptime

[worldly shadow]

for this sr alice prpbabl yjust gonna take naga

since beefy fire damage against wind modernia

[hardy fulcrum]

Which comes with another problem

Doro doesnt cycle THAT fast

[worldly shadow]

my question is like

[hardy fulcrum]

Volume does

[worldly shadow]

whats going to happen on team 4 -5 lol

[hardy fulcrum]

But Volume means loss of damage

[worldly shadow]

you an probably make 3 teams liter, tia, and then some kind of shield comp to block mod

[ebon crest]

D and Cocoa

[hardy fulcrum]

Nothing?

[worldly shadow]

yuou still take damage with d though right

[hardy fulcrum]

Mod?

My Mod is team 4/5

As no SW haver

[worldly shadow]

?

im talking about

[hardy fulcrum]

I need Mod to tank

My Mod

[worldly shadow]

breaking the core and tanking the stun

[hardy fulcrum]

Ye

[ebon crest]

Cocca can dispel stun

[hardy fulcrum]

Use cover?

[hardy fulcrum]

Fixed

[ebon crest]

Well damn

Cooca Regen cover then

So still viable

[simple slate]

will you test SW with Tia/Naga @hardy fulcrum ?

[agile trout]

Biscuit can recover cover too

[ebon crest]

D is straight up immune after her burst

[hardy fulcrum]

Give me SW

[agile trout]

Use the Modernia to destroy the Modernia

[hardy fulcrum]

Im going with Alice Priv Doro or Alice Maxwell Doro or Alice Maxwell Liter/Volume

[worldly shadow]

oh

guess maxwell unmarried with alice this sr finally

[ebon crest]

Yeah most definitely but I fear the stun part is gonna be more annoying than damage

[worldly shadow]

i think you have to avoid the stun

and also somehow survive the entire fight

so team 4-5 is going to be fucking rough

[ebon crest]

Reading the datamine it legit sounds unavoidable

[worldly shadow]

oh also probalby need some chest ol on the supports

so their cover is as strong as possible

[hardy fulcrum]

My 2nd question

[errant gorge]

just achieved independent alice today

[ebon crest]

Unless your cover surives that long

[hardy fulcrum]

Is whether Naga

[worldly shadow]

[hardy fulcrum]

Can

[agile trout]

Personally I'll wait for the last day to see if they are going to pull Halloween limiteds

[hardy fulcrum]

Keep

A2

Healthy

[worldly shadow]

i inmvested like 25 rocks into alice to make her independent

[hardy fulcrum]

She heals every 3.33s

[worldly shadow]

it should be possible

[ebon crest]

$50 says some mad lad will run the usual Doro Novel Alice Priv Max and just completely avoid damage the whole fight somehow

[worldly shadow]

since if rapunzel can do it

[ebon crest]

[hardy fulcrum]

What is this

[worldly shadow]

kira gonna do it

[hardy fulcrum]

Rapu is faster

Bro

And heals more

Wdym

[worldly shadow]

rapu lower invested than naga though

[ebon crest]

Does penetrate cover imply it'll damage through you covering or damage the cover and your Nikke?

If it's the former there's less pressure for cover restoration

[hardy fulcrum]

Is it me

Or Novel seems to be

[worldly shadow]

sounds like former

[hardy fulcrum]

Losing position rn?

[worldly shadow]

one boss

[hardy fulcrum]

In healer teams

[worldly shadow]

novel gets off a lot of the time casue alice in sr tanks aggro

and then heals herself independnt of everyone

[ebon crest]

It is difficult to slot Novel if you require a healer

Alice is basically novel healer

[worldly shadow]

so you can run novel with alice and be fine

but in like ur where the bosses dont target highest attack, I sometimes slot her out for like diesel or something

[errant gorge]

tia naga alice supremacy

🙏

[worldly shadow]

maybe marci now

[hardy fulcrum]

Ah yes

[ebon crest]

could have made Marci wind type

[worldly shadow]

ah yes we neeed another wind shotgun healer

[ebon crest]

Never enough

[hardy fulcrum]

Pepper will lose her gear soon

[ebon crest]

The usual SW comps sound so Hellish for this one man

Imagine Helm with SW now

can't iframe shit while charging, Good luck healing Dolla Miranda with Helm

[hardy fulcrum]

So does her burst atk buff activate

Without burst

Oh

[worldly shadow]

I assume if a shield is applied before she bursts it activates

or maybe during

[hardy fulcrum]

Activates ONLY if she has shield

[worldly shadow]

[hardy fulcrum]

I see

[worldly shadow]

en tl be soemthing

actually

[hardy fulcrum]

So she needs to have a shield first

[worldly shadow]

small issue with centi

paper shield

so if you take any ounce of damage before you burst

[hardy fulcrum]

So if Tia's shield is gone ure absolutely fucked

And to increase Tia's shield

U need to OL her

[worldly shadow]

jsut mlb

[hardy fulcrum]

But I dont have missilis helmet

[worldly shadow]

[hardy fulcrum]

Fuck u

[worldly shadow]

use them resources you get from being in that bab yserver

get core 7 tia

[hardy fulcrum]

Centi got the missilis helmet fuck

[ebon crest]

Centi Shield only apply to herself aswell so kek

[hardy fulcrum]

No?

It says Affect all allies.

[ebon crest]

Isn't centi shield affects self?

[hardy fulcrum]

Affects all allies

[worldly shadow]

it affects all allies

but if any ally takes an instance of damage

the shield goes away

"did you take a rifle shot from modernia right before burst? bye bye naga buff"

[hardy fulcrum]

Is Aria shield's HP bar on herself or on everyone?

[worldly shadow]

its on everyone

[hardy fulcrum]

Poli and Centi's?

[worldly shadow]

so they all have a separate shield

poli is like centi

[hardy fulcrum]

There are 2 diff wordings then.

[dawn saddle]

Bro did this on purpose 💀

[hardy fulcrum]

Tia uses Aria's wording.

And Tia taunts.

And Tia's shield will disappear.

But not Naga's.

[simple slate]

im asking expert an expert question, with all due respect

[hardy fulcrum]

But if Tia's cover is broken

URE ABSOLUTELY FUCKED

Snake

[ebon crest]

Yeah Poli doesn't show up on HP bar

[hardy fulcrum]

I want Missilis defend helmet pls

Fuck u

[worldly shadow]

kisenix sw knowledge got major holes in it

[ebon crest]

The blind leading the blind

[dawn saddle]

🧐

[hardy fulcrum]

Wow

Im exiting this server

Too much harassment

Enjoy ur lives without me

[simple slate]

WHO WHO DID THAT

TELL ME

BAN NOW

[errant gorge]

@hardy fulcrum we love u dont leave

[simple slate]

IMMA MUTE MYSELF OUT OF RESPECT

[ebon crest]

Not like this man

[simple slate]

what have i done

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-stabbing-himself-minul-mirdha-spongebob-suicide-gif-19249830

[worldly shadow]

Justice for sw that’s what you did

[ebon crest]

Real talk I genuinely think SW School girls may the play for upcoming raid

The other comps so mald inducing

And SW feels like the most prone to malding carry we have

[worldly shadow]

Volume jk will be very comfy

[errant gorge]

lets call them gyarus

schoolgirls too long

[ebon crest]

Gyarus rolls well

[errant gorge]

jk assumes u know what those areg

gyaru is cleaner like bunnies

[ebon crest]

You have coined a new era

[errant gorge]

i just need u guys

to start using it

dont use anyone else's

[worldly shadow]

[errant gorge]

[ebon crest]

yes boss

[errant gorge]

my bet is its gyarus alice

[ebon crest]

I can see that aswell

For the SW warriors

[worldly shadow]

For ur sw probably fine

Easy and comfy

[ebon crest]

But Im not strong enough I will settle for replacing Priv with Rap in the usual Doro Novel Anis Max comp

I can't reset for 6+ hours on SW again

[errant gorge]

at the end of the day

the best user of miranda dolla is sw

so even if it feels like ass to play its prob it for a while

[oak merlin]

[ebon crest]

Nahh I believe Shift Up has seen our pain in Solo Raid, and they release B1 CDR charge speed support on anniversary

[errant gorge]

that wud just go to the tia naga alice combo lol

[ebon crest]

Not for me

But y'all enjoy that

[errant gorge]

[ebon crest]

As long as I get my 1%

But low-key you have a point hey

[worldly shadow]

At least it’s kind of cheap

This Tia naga shit is not cheap

[ebon crest]

Benching Miranda is big opportunity cost

especially since burst manuals ain't cheap

Doro Naga Tia Alice Max is the comp then?

[errant gorge]

hard on CDR but a possibility

imo its gonna be tia doro naga alice priv or tia doro naga alice max 🤷‍♂️

because what happens if you try to put volume/liter here

is the opposite goes to bunnies

then u have trouble building the guillo team

[ebon crest]

Liter and Volume there gonna shaft lower teams so bad

[worldly shadow]

might be able to move max since naga attack buff should be the replacement

[errant gorge]

exactly why i rerolled into independent alice today

until now it was debatable if u can separate them

[ebon crest]

I mean more attack would be better here no? Since One of them gives attack % aswell

Attack damage*

[errant gorge]

but with tia and naga's buffs its just too much

believe past 120% ATT the value of additional ATT % drops

u get some from priv, some from naga, some from alice burst

tia's is not ATT %

tia's is straight final multiplier

[ebon crest]

Yeah I corrected myself

[worldly shadow]

can move novel now

to like the 2b te4am

[ebon crest]

Mast doko

[errant gorge]

i moved novel to 5th team

[worldly shadow]

and mast can go somewhere

[ebon crest]

Kise N102/MW/SW could be potent tbh

[errant gorge]

[ebon crest]

Trust

Can't really use Miranda here

[worldly shadow]

potent copium overdose

[ebon crest]

Y'all don't see the vision

I will honor him

Where else y'all plan to put Max?

[errant gorge]

team 5 with a2

[ebon crest]

And who's filling the gap with bunnies? Scar?

[errant gorge]

yep

a2 and scar swap positions

depending on # of boss parts

[worldly shadow]

scar bunnies mod old faithful

[ebon crest]

Naga and Tia having the core damage multpliyer tells me Mod probably gonna have exposed core and never Regen core so highly doubt we have the usual amount of part uptime

Unless Shift Up is trolling again

[errant gorge]

lets call it

tia naga

so the order sounds right

tia naga

i actually think school girls sounds better than gyaru now

[worldly shadow]

JK

[errant gorge]

but then we sound weird

[worldly shadow]

[errant gorge]

if u say JK to a noob

they will think u r just kidding

[worldly shadow]

f them noobs

[ebon crest]

Gyarus guys stick to the plan

[valid cedar]

just call em grad students or somethin

duo grads/students

[mental bronze]

tiaga

dbz fusion style

[simple slate]

TiaNaga

[tough iris]

Nagatia

[mental bronze]

niga

feels the most respectful combination

2 letters of each alternating

[worldly shadow]

[simple slate]

[errant gorge]

https://tenor.com/view/seriously-gif-23861497

[tame wagon]

i said that yesterday in maincord and got muted for 5 hours

[dawn saddle]

I think we need to something about this as well

Some of you are really pushing the limits

[tame wagon]

Tiga works

[valid cedar]

Alright mute raoul for 5 days

[tame wagon]

Tia Naga

Tiga

[valid cedar]

The duo dragons

[strong loom]

I really mean Frima, because Frima S2 max hp heals, duh

[vast hamlet]

Why does this thread more active than Naga? Is it because she's black? Smh

[strong loom]

whatchu mean naga

gyaru ain't black

they are tanned

[vast hamlet]

she look black to me

[strong loom]

smh

[vagrant shoal]

A female naga is called a Nagi, or a Nagini
N-

[strong loom]

man this naga is smart

[amber pulsar]

She's like winter Rupee but better since even if she taunts, she at least makes a shield for herself. Also seems like she's forever glued to Naga, like Blanc and Noir.

[valid cedar]

she's also better since she buffs attack damage by a ton

[amber pulsar]

True.

Marciana seems like an easy skip now, especially based on how great the whole "2 nikkes buffing each other" shtick Shiftup is going for now.

[trim pawn]

1 copy and forgetti

[amber pulsar]

For Marciana? Can't afford it sadly. If I plan of going for Tia and Naga, I'm gonna have to skip her

[strong loom]

she has 10% more hp than Rupee

if Rupee is dead, Tia will probably follow

[amber pulsar]

Oof

[simple slate]

[strong loom]

but you can

I don't know

cover?

[simple slate]

Her shield and own heal and naga heal not enough?

These raptures one shot anyone anyway

As long as she can hold the missles spam

[trim pawn]

have you tried rosanna?

[strong loom]

sniper can be dealt with shield

but chip dmg are something else

[amber pulsar]

Naga's buffs would be such a waste if you can't run Tia with her

[simple slate]

And tianaga has higher burst gen then bunnies?

Prolly better in some stage

[trim pawn]

RL+SG vs AR+SG

[simple slate]

[strong loom]

[simple slate]

Chip damage aint shiet

We got A2

[strong loom]

[simple slate]

Tia - A2 condom

https://tenor.com/view/speed-cat-hip-gif-22084636

[strong loom]

shield ain't heal, naga

get a hold of yourself naga

[simple slate]

But naga heal a2 too naga

Max s2

[strong loom]

naga pls

Tia ain't heal shit

that's Naga

[simple slate]

Naga cant read

[trim pawn]

me reading this chat rn

[strong loom]

look at this naga

[simple slate]

Thats true

Tia taunt

A2 doesnt get 1 hit down threshold

[strong loom]

just

[simple slate]

[strong loom]

cover?

[simple slate]

Ape mode ape no cover

[strong loom]

smh this dumb naga

[simple slate]

Chip damage continuously cover how?

Smhh

[strong loom]

smh, just cover

[simple slate]

Naga pls

Barrage upon barrage of flying missle

Keep covering

[strong loom]

damn this Naga2 is strong

[vagrant shoal]

https://youtu.be/NKAbUe7UxW0?si=BcFEIzm58Ps_R7mm

[wary geode]

so about the Tia/Naga duo, they are more loose in pairing compared to the twins, right?

[spiral field]

Yes, there isn't some same squad condition

[trim pawn]

atm it's more restrictive in a sense that there's really no b1 shielder that can trigger naga's burst effect of atk boost aside from Tia. and then Tia herself requires another b1 in the squad

[civic bobcat]

My apologies to ask, but I am new here, but does Naga need Tia and or vice versa?

[grim sundial]

only Naga can reliably heal Tia cover (which will rpoc Tia s1)

[civic bobcat]

So if I pull just Naga for example because of her VA, then I must pull Tia afterwards too, like I don't have much of a choice no?

[grim sundial]

If not use together. Tia s1 is not 100% up time. Naga can't proc 85% core bonus. Naga can't proc 31% atk buff

[grim sundial]

In the end it is just a game.

[wary geode]

Interesting, well i will get them just for my Alice/SW/A2 squad

[limpid ledge]

sorry then, i thought you were talking about other mechanic >.<

[strong loom]

smh naga

[smoky imp]

[wet dawn]

Her S1 said, "when 'recovering Cover's HP"
Do this triggered why external source?
Or it's bound to trigger by herself only?

Not sure if this is how they want to sell Tia along with Naga since she can recovering cover as well (Although Liter and Biscuit also can too)

[dawn saddle]

Liter does it
Cocoa does it

[wet dawn]

hmm, so if we pair her with the unit that can recovering cover's hp then she'll likely be repeatable B1 like XRupee then.

[ebon crest]

Probably just Liter and Cocca, biscuit only works if Cover is destroyed and 40s CD is quite long

[wet dawn]

I see, then It's

• Liter
• Cocoa
• Naga
• Tia (Herself)
  who can trigger her S1

[strong loom]

yeah

[hardy fulcrum]

Naga's buff can only be triggered by Aria, Folkwang, and Tia.

Cannot be a shared shield.

I think.

I'm not sure.

Shared shield might apply

Need test

[simple slate]

Stop trying to split them

[hardy fulcrum]

Why not

[simple slate]

Because they dont burst at the same time

Mod sr:
Tianaga
Bunnies
Aria/folk

[trim pawn]

D

Cocoa

[simple slate]

It looks like we are not going to destroy her core btw looking at naga skill (and tia shield)

Rip D

[amber pulsar]

Since burst 1 and 2 are already occupied, with Liter in the team, who's gonna be the healer?

Shields and cover are good and all but I don't think Naga alone is gonna be good enough.

[mental bronze]

tia tanks

and heals herself

[simple slate]

Naga heal may not be as good as rapunzel, but the Tia shield is huge, so we reach enough sustain level

[amber pulsar]

What about everyone else? As we've seen with XRupee, she's not gonna last long.

[mental bronze]

wdym xrupee won't last long she is successfully used in sr

by top 50 players

[amber pulsar]

What team?

[mental bronze]

#raid-planning has it in pins

whole charts of top teams

[amber pulsar]

I guess with the shield and cover, you're gonna have to manual her and switch between tanking hits and taking cover

[simple slate]

you dont have to dont worry

xrupee get fked by cp gap, sr no cp gap

[amber pulsar]

I guess so

[mental bronze]

tia has lifesteal on her s2 she'll heal herself just fine

look at shelms healing tia has half that but does so every 20 seconds which effectively makes her heal the same except spread out instead of 1 big chunk of overhealing

on top of that healing her team will come with a bunch of shielding and cover repair

i don't see her dying anytime soon when garbage like xrupee who really isn't a good comparison also survives

if you still die just blame it on skill issues

her kit will make her survive that's not gonna be an issue

[amber pulsar]

No she doesn't tho. That's for cover

[mental bronze]

she does translation issues

look at jp

last line of s2

is for herself

[amber pulsar]

I see

Is lifesteal on a RL is that good?

[mental bronze]

in general no but tia gets boosted by naga

i don't know what kind of healing you think is needed so i don't know what measurement you're looking for

[simple slate]

shield heal lifesteal what more can you ask for

[valid cedar]

indom, 10000% attack damage boost, an instant win button, the list goes on

[hardy fulcrum]

Naga heals, Tia doesnt

[amber pulsar]

I know. I'm saying Naga's healing doesn't seem like it's gonna be good enough on it's own

[hardy fulcrum]

Dont split the both

[strong loom]

Naga heals more than Rap since you don't burst with Rap anyway

[mental bronze]

we're finally not splitting? horray

[strong loom]

[hardy fulcrum]

Naga heals every 3.33 sec

[strong loom]

but she loses to all other healers because you don't run any healers off burst, except Mary

[hardy fulcrum]

• reload

[strong loom]

and Mary heals like a god

[hardy fulcrum]

And the value is a lot

[strong loom]

if only you read

[hardy fulcrum]

Without OL

[strong loom]

imagine OL max ammo

[mental bronze]

day1

[strong loom]

smh this naga

[hardy fulcrum]

It's ideal to use Resilience

So heal every 4s

[mental bronze]

if tia's cover breaks is she fucked or will it function fine

the whole cover healing thing i assume works team wide right

[hardy fulcrum]

Shes fucked

Thats why she has a lot of shield for herself

[mental bronze]

sounds like we need to manual her

[hardy fulcrum]

And cover repair

No need

She should be self sustainable

[mental bronze]

to make the cover hit on purpose

[hardy fulcrum]

No need

[mental bronze]

nice

[hardy fulcrum]

If u spam, her cover wont benefit from MAX HP

Just get MAX AMMO OL

dont manual

The uptime is already big

5:6 with infinite ammo

[mental bronze]

good to hear

[hardy fulcrum]

Overload body I suppose

I dont have her helmet

But up her helmet too

[strong loom]

and boots too while we are at it

[mild beacon]

gloves too

[strong loom]

[hardy fulcrum]

No shit

Head and body give most HP

[strong loom]

if you look at things this way

only armor worths

helm boots together are not even as many as armor lmao

[mild beacon]

it only 4 rocks

just ol them all

[strong loom]

ikr

[mild beacon]

smh

[simple slate]

OL all, cp worthy it

Go ape mode

[strong loom]

[simple slate]

🦧

[strong loom]

ikr naga

i gotchu back naga

[mild beacon]

smh

[strong loom]

dum naga

[hardy fulcrum]

Tia fullset

[simple slate]

dont push further naga gonan rage quit on us agane

[hardy fulcrum]

[mild beacon]

we need to kiss him goodnight so he dont quit

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1154637038906253323.gif?size=64

[strong loom]

[simple slate]

https://tenor.com/view/big-kiss-bro-make-face-kiss-smooch-hillarious-kiss-gif-21486160

[strong loom]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/515278592905838642/1012507035679596696/Thisbe_Kiss.gif

[mental bronze]

tia's the defender

pepper is support

that would be naga full set

[simple slate]

Is Tia burst gen good?

[mental bronze]

no i'm not even gonna try

[simple slate]

@hardy fulcrum

[mental bronze]

tia has like

noise/rapunzel burst gen i think

mag rl

[simple slate]

ah not bad then

naga clip sg?

[mental bronze]

also mag

they may be done with clips

haven't seen a clip in a year

[strong loom]

don't think naga

read the damn table naga

also Naga = Poli tier
Tia = Biscuit tier

the more you know

smh

dum dum naga

[simple slate]

https://tenor.com/view/invisible-vanish-good-bye-teleport-bye-gif-16415619

[mental bronze]

pvp chart in pins isn't updated smh

[strong loom]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1jlN6QwygWRO8g2d3FIE30eFHDpWBg9l5eNsHUvWKeIg/edit#gid=1949954391

bookmark this one instead

raw but readable

[mental bronze]

done

[strong loom]

here

just find whoever has same number as her check the tierlist

this will be updated everytime lorax touches the new data

but if you really want an explaination in "Raw" sheet

then can read here "Index"

[simple slate]

i like it raw

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1008342051244482620/1141717845273759754/ezgif-1-d1c2536fc8.gif

[strong loom]

we are covering some mysteries left

Hit Rate for example

this is actually not scaling linear, but you get the idea

after 35 shots, your MG is br br br br

[nimble silo]

Doro, naga, tia, joever b3

[hardy fulcrum]

Bro no

That only works if

Core = part

But yes possible

Wait Doro is better ye

[umbral talon]

My thoughts seeing Tia: im gonna triple burst 1 just because its funny

[nimble silo]

[simple slate]

TiaXrupee nut destroyer combo fr fr

https://tenor.com/view/cum-penis-cum-i-creamed-cumming-xd-gif-20404521

[ebon crest]

they repair cover not recover it, I imagine core is exposed

Otherwise the core damage is useless

[simple slate]

her core is exposed

i checked last night

[ebon crest]

Gonna be a interesting raid

[mental bronze]

raid will be

boring cuz enemies deal 50% atk

soloraid only challenge left

most interesting union raid was the very first one where top unions took multiple days to get past modernia lvl 7 as mechanics were still roughly unclear

[valid cedar]

dun worry, just join a casual union

should take you several days to complete it

[mental bronze]

doesn't make the fights interesting though

weaksauce spongy fucks

[ebon crest]

Nah man that UR was disgusting

Whale pp comparing contest

[valid cedar]

all UR is just whale pp comparing contest

[ebon crest]

I'm in a casual union its the same thing honestly the fights aren't hard but you do them more often

[ebon crest]

The difference is everyone else can still clear them, whales will clear faster for sure but everyone else cab

That MoD UR however

Separated us

[dawn saddle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyC-PnrOitM

[simple slate]

INSANE poggie thank streamer

[valid cedar]

pretty much what we wrote here already

[simple slate]

Coomcord opinion =

[mental bronze]

first correct thing you said fr ong

[frail sequoia]

She gonna be Top tier for Arena, right?

[dawn saddle]

Not sure about that

[hardy fulcrum]

Defender B1 reminds me of something

[dawn saddle]

Need to use 2 B1s tho

[hardy fulcrum]

Eh thats normal

Defender with atk boost that doesnt use B2 nor B1

Speaking of which

RUPEE AND PEPPER CAN HELP STACK HER S1

But why

Like u can use Jackal's skill with her in 2B's team

ATK dmg + tdm boost

Pvp*

Or Pascal's mega heal

Or Noise's heal

[tawdry walrus]

How fast is re-doing burst 1 on auto though? Some people I fight gets down to Scarlet procs for burst gen deciding if their Noah burst is fast enough.

[trim pawn]

if someone's willing to test in rookie/spvp, that'd be nice

not me

[hardy fulcrum]

0.5s

[loud veldt]

I assume we need B1 with cdr to play with Tia and Naga, right?

[errant gorge]

Yea

[loud veldt]

It's only 2 months and I probably have to say goodbye to vol+mast comp

[errant gorge]

Kinda trolling trying to put liter or volume there

[hardy fulcrum]

Explain

How is Dorothy better

[ebon crest]

Opportunity cost I think

[valid cedar]

in terms of being worse, I agree

[errant gorge]

Shes not better

If u know how to comp 5 teams if u take liter or volume away ur 5 teams fall apart at guillo

[mental bronze]

is fine use d

[simple slate]

So anyone knows the skill translation in eng has any error? For Tia

[vast hamlet]

On Tia S1 "Attack damage up x%" this thing increase the basic attack dmg right?

Is it the same as Helm S2? Cuz in my language it says something weird...
For Tia it say something that translated to "Damage from attacking 🡹 32.11%"
While helm says Damage ATK 🡹 11.85%

probably translation issue?

[dawn saddle]

JP has it same as helm's

[mental bronze]

petition to fire translator-kun

[vast hamlet]

All these times I always thought that Helm ult increase team atk

[sudden anvil]

• Naga
  Skill Order - Skill 2 > Skill 1 > Burst Skill
  Cube - Resilience Cube(Reload Speed%)
  Overload Stats - Max Ammo(at least 30%+), ATK%, Hit Rate%, Crit DMG%
  Gear Upgrade - Gear > Helmet > Gloves > Boots

• Tia
  Skill Order - Skill 2 > Skill 1 > Burst Skill
  Cube - Resilience Cube(Reload Speed%)
  Overload Stats - Charging Speed%, Charge DMG%, Def%
  Gear Upgrade - Gear > Boots > Helmet > Gloves

• Naga Burst Skill is perfectly fine at lvl.5, lvl.5 gives 12.5% and 23.32% Atk. You want Naga to have at least 12 ammo(30%+) this makes it so she recovers cover hp every reload and proccs her Skill 2 twice per reload. Reload Speed% is nice cuz she wants to keep shooting.

• Tia Burst Skill is perfectly fine at lvl.4, lvl.4 gives 25.5% self shield and 7.42% allies shield. Charging Speed% and Reload Speed% are self explanatory, you want her to land 5 shots as fast as possible so she can keep taunting and increase her cover Max HP. Max ammo% isn't that great cuz 6 ammo wont be increased by much.

• Notes
  This duo shouldn't struggle too much against Modernia if you can prepare your burst 1 before she uses her lasers. Tia's shields should block at least 1 strike. Against Chatterbox you can just reset if he destroys Tia's cover first since she will keep taunting she will need her cover, Tia's shields can also block this attack and hopefully the bonus cover max hp can actually tank this attack. BOTH OF THESE BOSSES WILL NEED TESTING

Max Limit Break isn't necessary but the extra stats will be very helpful cuz both rely on HP, and Naga's Burst Skill also relies on Max Atk

[trim pawn]

why chatterbox

[hardy fulcrum]

?

Tia: S1 > S2 > Burst
Naga: Burst > S1 > S2

[worldly shadow]

uh oh math off

[sudden anvil]

Tia S1 lvl.4 is already 10 sec. Realistically you will upgrade everything to lvl.4 or lvl.5 first

[worldly shadow]

difference in attack for level 4 vs level 10 is only like 10%

but its base attack right

idk if thats more or less valuable than normal attack increase

[sudden anvil]

Yeah its not mega important compared to core dmg% buff

If it was final max atk or just atk up then it would have been different for sure

[worldly shadow]

yea that makes sense

i kind of thought base atatack is worse cause smaller number

but didn't know for sure

[grim sundial]

agree with Kisenix. Tia s1 is huge dps increase while s2 and burst need just enough to survive.
the same as Naga 2.3%~ ^atk from burst better scaling than 3.8%~ ^core from s1

[mild beacon]

tia s1 is same modifier as helm's s2 (same modifier as part damage but universal)

its a lot better than atk up

its ~~lesser ~~ damage amp

naga 10 10 4
tia 4 4 4

naga 4 4 4
tia 10 4 4

[sudden anvil]

Yeah but Naga is the only one healing Tia and A2. Which you want both to have full hp

https://tenor.com/view/nerd-pacman-speechbubble-above-gif-26156649

[mild beacon]

why are you using a2 in this naga tia team

[sudden anvil]

Cuz she is top tier dps? The aoe hits half the screen

[mild beacon]

[grim sundial]

A2 with bunnies. Tia Naga with SW Alice MW

[simple slate]

A2 prefers with tianaga in story mode

Oh no one push story mode anyway

[trim pawn]

alice mod is kinda irreplaceable for most people in story

then it’s just a matter of flex for the rest of the team. bunnies vs centi priv vs 3rd dps

[simple slate]

Dont really like that kind of alice

But it is what it is

[dawn saddle]

Believe in A2.

[trim pawn]

what will A2 do when there's a fucking knight elite who for some reason has 2.4 billion hp

[mental bronze]

Skill Order - Skill 2 > Skill 1 > Burst Skill```

really s2 over s1?

i thought her attack dmg up was the most important skill

[simple slate]

She clean up the mob and let you focus on elite?

She just cant handle elites

[trim pawn]

modernia/alice already got that covered
between pierce and burst

but ig a2 can be used when mobs are more spread out

[mental bronze]

i've seen players use a2 over modernia lately in story she seems up there with the best

mixed bundle of alice/scarlet/modernia/a2 being the 4 best unordered

but alice is so queen i think she's the best

[simple slate]

Wont deny alice benefit the most from tianaga

Just dont like using her

[mild beacon]

He doesnt even know what attack damage is
#1154342718353457263 message

[mental bronze]

in my opinion

i can see how s2 may be important because you dont'want to break your cover or have tia die but dmg is king so that's the one i'll focus on

[simple slate]

Guys its alright wont hurt much

Can argue that she taunt so she need more healing from s2

[sudden anvil]

You mfs do realize Naga heals 9.5% of her final max hp EVERY 3 FUCKING SECONDS

[sudden anvil]

If Tia dies no more free attack dmg% and shields

Also SKILL ISSUE DAYO

[simple slate]

Shieeet he wakes up and chooses violence

[sudden anvil]

A2 only struggles against Modernia and Chatterbox, can replace her for Scarlett or 2B in those fights

Everything else she is pretty solid, PvP probs her weakest event

[mild beacon]

when you realize lvl 5 is enough heal for campaign andy

and using a2 naga tia in SR team is

[simple slate]

“Campaign andy”

[mild beacon]

UR/SR timmy

[tepid gale]

do you have a column somewhere for manual pepper? and/or manual pepper+priv

[worldly shadow]

This is just manual? No privaty?

Nvm I’m dumb

It can’t be privaty cause same reload

[sudden anvil]

Is it enough to heal A2 tho?

[mild beacon]

that sheet for a2

[sudden anvil]

Thank you so much Womb. I will be changing the post. I must have FORGOR💀💀💀 to do the math

Does the reload matter? Cuz Naga reloads every 1.5 instead of 2.03

[mild beacon]

6% increase

[sudden anvil]

Its so sad overload gear doesnt have HP% bonus

Fucking low ass crit rate XDDD

Btw how much hp Naga and A2 got here for your calc?

[mild beacon]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1BcGvnjcS9wEuACDV90oVf_ytgeCwsHpGPyJigBLiJoU/edit#gid=0

~~not mine sheet ~~

[sudden anvil]

💀?

[errant gorge]

[simple slate]

Is that from the nagaking gatrix himself

[mild beacon]

yes

[mental bronze]

the legend lives on

[mild beacon]

just go to his hideout in dc discord

[simple slate]

https://tenor.com/view/america-choir-singing-dancing-graduation-gif-11836462

[mental bronze]

looks pretty dead he should come back here

[mild beacon]

he cant

[mental bronze]

oh

[mild beacon]

[mental bronze]

hands up and i shoot

[worldly shadow]

He did it like 30 times

[simple slate]

But but it was fun

[grim sundial]

Is this gatrix sheet you are using? I’m still not looking at it yet

[mild beacon]

yes. healing stuff is part of it
#1155534307591458867 message

[ebon crest]

bro was having a lil too much fun

Research Lab definitely won't be the same without him and Kise

[simple slate]

@mental bronze ^

https://tenor.com/view/cmon-bruh-driving-whatever-gif-14354643

[mental bronze]

Just post his dumb explanation

Why 5/6 letters used of the n word was a mistake

[dawn saddle]

Kise will be back

Hope for his good health

[trim pawn]

why do I have a bad feeling about Tia's s1 attack boost activation requirement?

what if you go up against a boss like GD who does no damage at all and your cover stays full

what if you go up against a boss that straight up one shots your cover in one attack like a cracked alteisen?

so you have to do wonky shit like letting projectiles hit your cover

or actually taking cover before an attack so your cover takes damage

[errant gorge]

thats why u pull

and then dont use skill mats till someone tests or u test

[trim pawn]

I already have to use skill mats for pvp units because of a psycho in my bracket

this psycho already gemmed 200 today just to get rank 6. he was 12 at reset. pushed to 6, got dropped back to 12 and is now 6 again

he gemmed probably around 500-600 yesterday because I gemmed 200 to entertain him

[worldly shadow]

Gd does have missiles so she could taunt that

But yeah that could be an issue

[trim pawn]

SI GD missiles one shot cover and then stun on top

hmm

and then no missiles at phase 3

[worldly shadow]

Just hope no gd for solo raid

[tawdry walrus]

The only thing that affects cover HP is nikke level right? It doesn't one shot when I tested