#[A2] New Unit Megathread
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so is pepper not good enough for A2.
pepper should workfine
with privaty on the team, if you manual pepper, you can do 'last bullet' heal consistently
hmm, ok.
As long as A2 isnt invested very easy
still a preference of mine to do that tactic
Start with her burst
Then it will deactivate just before 3rd rotation
Then it will be on forever
ok so a slight drop off at burst 3
In PvP, current meta have a lots of RL so should I assume that her burst will end really fast in the most fight?
uninvested 2b a2 meta strat woooo
which is probably fair
full auto right?
so it might be higher if you spam shots iwth smary
tbh we don't have enough RL
usually team 3 is filled up with shotguns
RL can whiff, so not that reliable tbh
a2 cant whiff ?
she hits the target as soon as her charge releases
thought she still shoot projectile
A2 is ballin she never whiffs

It's like a grenade launcher tbh
honestly, I cant wait for the training room upgrade.
all the good supports go to team 1 and 2 in pvp
cant believe it has taken them this long
She is for burst regen
Oh ok, so she have low attack speed but the gauge regneration is fast?
The attack speed is fast
adjutant cube best a2 cube? 
In my case
15% chg spd
She swings 2 times, and shortly after that my Centi with 4.92% chg spd lands her 3rd shot.
That's around 31.2 for 3 RL.

Hmm if I don't get her with tickets
Should I use mileage?
Should I LB2 her
no
makes sense
should at least get 1 copy
Guys im new i didnt get a2 in 30 pulls do we swipe ? Worth it? 
again, giga AoE is A2's biggest selling point, imo
Mileage worth it?
sure
she could be the highest dps in the game vs parts
Better than Laplace and D?
we need that blacksmith to come back
she ll have her use in most bosses
that's why i consider her skill 1 most important
laplace aoe range so low
so we can test the head + shoulder hitbox tech
every SR bosses having parts, most UR bosses have parts also
you can all of a boss
I call that invalid, Jackal did squat against A2
If the Noah was move to leftmost, and Centi and Jackal were replaced for Biscuit and Noise, your team would have lost
besides some huge bosses
like land eater
but even then, you're still most likely to hit all the parts
what is a2's bis cube
also multiple separate areas to hit like blacksmith
by s1 level 8
imagine if A2 could hit both of alteisen's turret sectors on phase 1 with burst active

If you got a lot of ammo+ roll then Bastion, otherwise reload.
i think a2 can hit both BS guns if s1 lv10
Reload probably
ok ty
yeah, A2 just wants ammo/reload
where's the charge spd ?
might alkso be able to hit his head and his shoulder

for 4 different parts to hit
you get charge speed from nikkes that give it and OL
she's hitting both legs on nihilister on lvl 7
wtf aoe that big ?
yeah
holy shit
yup

like i pointed out way earlier
k i change my mind
an increase in radius is a squared increase in AoE
cuz you know, piR^2
she's collab unit anyway
During B-Mode right?
still worth to lb2
of course during burst
ofc
cuz her skill 1 is only active during burst
Oh snap
She might actually be insane
since she's colab unit that mean they ll not rerun

so just exchange
honestly, i highly suspect that they will rerun.
Ok heres 1.7% crit rate for 4 rocks
Yeah but pilgrim next probably

just based on the fact that shift up is expecting to make tons of money from the collab.
pilgrim still can get from banners
it might get a rerun sometime in the future, idk

but think about it, TWO skins to pay for, one is gacha
idk how they work with DC
And this 2B piece
I havnt gotten scarlet since launch
but they do announce that colab units are not rerun
Non ol lb0 a2 vs core 7 2b
not that i expect CSM to come back any time soon, lol
so a2 > 2b ?
zamn. 2B would unironically be SSS if she used an LMG instead of AR

wtf lmg
but 2B needs significantly more investment vs A2
stop it
Damn
I need 25k gems to have enough for another mileage
Do I mileage a2
Or do I skip?
remember to focus on that skill 1
I NEED ROCC
Need to wait till UR or SR so we can test out 3 min fight though.
Of course if you're not into UR/SR then I guess you're right.
Though how well will a2 do in campaigns or raids?
in campaigns, there's tons of trash mobs that her giga AoE rockets will hit
vs raids, idk. the boss will have to have lots of vulnerable parts to hit
actually since 2b need burst mats so i just throw her there without invest atm
if the boss has low to no particular parts parts to hit
2a can run with mid burst invest tho
A2 will definitely falter in damage.
Fomo hitting hard imma use my last mileage 
yeah, but some raid bosses don't.
ur is a different story
How much does A2 out damage Alice?
lol vs whale ll be brutal
she loses more hp on lower lvls
she hit hard
tons of parts
Mother Whale is far
So the explosion would look much smaller
so did someone confirmed she does part damage and not interuption damage?
parts
it's parts damage, yeah
Yes
nowhere in her kit does it say interruption
it was always part lol

fair.
people were just trying too hard or something
yeah, well, the ingame description says otherwise
but if only the description is bugged then ok
that's dorothy's skill that she gives all allies.
silly.
just cuz A2 can get it
doesn't mean it's her skill

WAIT
ingaqme always said part lol



zamn, though
lol
A2 with holy fire active vs mother whale
just thinking about it
but yeah, someone pointed out that mother whale does start out far

so i wonder how much of s1 needs to be leveled
7 or 10
for all 7 parts of mother whale at the start to be hit
maybe 7 is enouhg
they are nearby tho
the core and 6 rapture deployers
yeah, the rapture deployers are clustered together on opposite sides
so at the very least, you can hit 4 (core + one side of rapture deployers)
which is already crazy
isnt there someone else that increases RL explosion rate of party ?
Core + 3 parts+ main body
ye
I mean, i guess there's belorta.
oh my bad
No SSR that's for sure
Pay will 200 gold ticket's
it doesn't exactly. So there's at least one typo. And it could've been either of them. But if you really tested and it's working then ok. That's why I asked.
so for now, the only reliable healers are S mary and Blanc as stand alone to keep Mode B up right?
i tried... she cant
pepper too, but manual is required
Really?
her constant heal comes from last bullet
Think results will vary from person to person on pepper
On manual with Res?
and since she's a shotgunner
su tl team be funny
you will want to keep manualing pepper to pump out more last bullets consistently
so yeah, with pepper, you strictly need to manual
dorothy does part damage
Yeah fr
also, cant tie her up with scarlet or guillotine
its a hp reduction competition between those 3

yeah, i like to spam out her last bullet to build it up as well
But ay who's investing that much into a healer 
cuz it also goes up for all allies per last bullet
Fuck it we ball
i maxed out pepper's s1, cuz i abuse her last bullet heal ALL the time. with privaty, she only reloads 1 shell
It took me 8 months to get my first pepper
so it's a ridiculously good, spammable heal, as long as i fire it as soon as she reloads

please rework soda to make her heals every 5s at 8% and enhenced bonus 17% at max stacks

yes, and she actually says so, A2 doesn't
π¦only one unit buff per year
its the same refernece, the description link is clearly bugged
Wait next year for soda buff
cuz for some, it's 'interruption parts'
and others, it's just 'parts', but also means the rings to interrupt boss attack
man...
Yes, charge speed + >1 ammo or ATTACK + 1 ammo
and for others, 'parts' is literally just extra boss part
Thats ur OL picks
sod couldve been the best off-burst healer but nope
poo ass value and hels every purple moon when the 7 doomsday stars align

gg
No,
She must be in Liter Alice team
That chg spd buff is
Just
If u have charge speed OL, u will understand

all in all, im glad nier units arent shit
same.
For Alice A2 team
U need to make sure 1 thing
BOTH PARTS MUST STAY ALIVE
Break the parts only when boss almost ded

Solo raid*
oh yeah, they're both going to be competing to destroy boss parts
Free train tho..right?
lmao
that's true, lol
If ure playing blacksmith
Alice can hit right then left then right then left
Or something
makima should have been a shotgunner, her kit works so much better with it, i feel
A2 should actually hit both
but that's besides the point. we talking a2 here
From one side
yeah
But Idk
A2 can hit both as soon as blacksmith jumps to center from the start.
idk at what level she can start doing so
until sakura came up cuz for alexander, its electric stonks moment lol
Are u sure?
Without S1?
Can u confirm?
I think someone did play BS in tribe tower jn
oh. i already did my SI, can't check.
But does A2 damage justify being able to hit both turrets
A2 outdps Alice
In my testing
Against separated parts
Alice cant keep up
At all
what i really want to see is if A2's level 10 s1 hits both of alteisen/alexander's turret+RL bases
Even manual

π
yeah, the thing is
thats not a suprise
alice can pierce...
or just one side of mother whale's rapture deployers
who needs pierce when you do AOE
π
so e got alice powercreep
no...
time to C7 A2 then
i wouldn't say that necessarily.
still cant power creep alice
no no you must C10 her
if new unit isn't powercreep, no buy
they strong in diff situation

but yeah, A2 is really strong.
no doubt about it.
actually, A2 does have the benefit of not needing as much as alice to start popping off
but both definitely appreciate more resources.
maybe not as true given that A2 does need a healer
that's not that hard to come by.
wdym... she is useless after 1st burst without healer

if you got blanc, you got both heals and damage increase
why does she take 10 years after 1 charge 
0 worries
because A2 doesn't release a projectile. her attack hits really fast compared to standard RL units
so to balance it, she has long animation
but charge speed fixes it
π¦
depending on distance
π¦
you can probably argue at different boss ranges the time from charge to projectile hit is the same
A2 likes when parts are super close to
1st rl that cant miss?
-115k CP in Hard Campaign
yeah, but wouldn't you say a sniper rifle has less leeway compared to an explosion
A2 will outdamage against 2 parts+
and you're not just going to be manualing alice when they're super close lol
i agree with that assessment. alice vs 0 parts is most likely better than A2, but that sounds hard to compare, lol
Pls don't say that
I might actually use my last mileage on herπ
What OL
Did you go for Attack or Chg Spd route
godzamn
Garbage rn. 
all those little raptures just disappear with A2
but both do want a good amount of skill manuals, and both do like having supports to reach peak performance
If u wanna go attack route
She might turn herself
Into highest ATK unit
And u get fucked
In the ass
where are the kinky internet tabs?
Reroll value time

I'm planning on going Charge Speed cuz I'm getting better numbers with Adjutant than Resilience
yeah, i also want to get charge speed on A2.
(Bastion of course best long term)
Adjutant 5. 
rich unions

Bastion 7, Resilience 6, Adjutant 5 atm
I'm in a union made of members mostly from a community I'm in, so union credits are a bit slow
(usually rank 3-4%)
my union can just barely make it to top 10%, so it's okay.
but i've been with the union day 1
and helped develop it, so i will stay.
Ok A2 can go with Maxwell but she will fight for that slot too with Mod and SW
She wants ATTACK
So either u pair her with Max or Alice
same lol
i remember how hard it was for me to find a union π kept finding full ones or denied
But if u wanna go the Maxwell Helm A2 route
Your A2 must have burst 10
Cus that gives you 22s leeway
ONLY

You are being burst chased
-10s for other burst
so im guessing the best OL are ammo, charge dmg, charge spd, and atk%, but which one is better than which?
12s to recharge full gauge 2x
use syuen, she gives 23% ATK above 90% HP & 18% Charge Damage above 80% HP & Free Rapi roundhouse kick when she does not burst
Thats why
cuz idk if atk% or charge dmg is better
I think SMary SHelm Maxwell A2 Mod might be the team.
Rip MAXWELL BUFF
Getting stolen

loyal
Ok let me be honest
I dont think she needs any support
But u lose so much dmg
Its hard to insert her to the current teams
The only way is to sacrifice Alice
16m less than modernia swap with mw
And remove her from Noir team
"losing damage" is the wrong way to look at it if we're inserting her tho
A2 and Mod will take spot
especially if you think she doesn't need support
we all doing damage now
Wait, actually? 
w0t
yeah im in sky stream
man please dont make it funny
she's helping out
the seyfi dude dm sky
mod negative we know
but if cocoa removed mode B i laugh
ammo doesnt really matter on a2 right? we wont spam her
It makes sense
fraud
Im sure it removes the HP debuff
yo usaid you were collecting all the nikkes
Who said
im gonna test
FUCKING LOL, I LOST MODE B
LOL
it removes the entire thing
Imagine they patched it.
- Fixed an issue where Mode B can be deactivated by Cocoa's S2 and Burst Skill.
cocoa meta
i just burst to get mode B

Like why would u sacrifice dps for fucking cocoa
aaaaaaaaaaaaand its gone entirely
@granite lynx whats the skill priority?

Hard to say
10/10/10 let's go
Then burst is important as hell
I got 4 ammo lines no cs
Otherwise its shit

Ok thats shit
No you
If u have 15 charge speed for instance
oh wow that sounds interesting
meta with cocoa
should i 4 OL 10 10 10 my cocoa too then
It starts with 0.83.
who has more dps a2 or 2b?
I guess 4x ATK, 4x Charge Speed, 1x Max Ammo, and last 3 are flex (Element or Charge Damage) 
smary does an amazing job keeping a2 above 40%
Ok, 0.746 becomes 0.8333, that's 8.7% increase. That's weird.
So A2 killing herself as much as was predicted?
i think she technically increases a2's 40% hp
Man if I get her early I'm so burning gems for dupes kek
Oh wait
but it doesn'ot matter
is atk or charge dmg better?
cause smary just handles it
How bad is her burst gen if non OL with Charge speed? 
If you want to use her in campaign, ATK, no question (gotta counter that CP penalty)
Just for bosses, 
her burst gen is good
0.775
attack is better
yes
quick napkin math i believe for charge dmg is just charge dmg buff / full charge dmg = ~attack buff
Still no summary for us filthy casuals?
did nikg have some stat nerds or was it all just coomers too
we got some nerds here
Isn't prydwen suppose to be slow? As in they update only once the dust has settled
First charge speed increases damage by 1.1%, 2nd charge speed increases by 1.2%, I'm guessing 3rd increases by 1.3%.


so just yell at him so he can write the summary so you can then roll
which is better, 11% atk roll or 4% charge spd + 6% charge dmg
also same question for 11% atk vs 64% max ammo

Its ok
shouldnt matter that much
latter
This took 8 rocks.
I locked last line.
Gives me 1.7% more crit rate.
Happy ending.
It was hitrate and def.
look at this fucking shit

as C.E.O. of Missilis, I will continue to send A2 questions here
whatβs a2 skill priority?
Enjoy
can any of you goobers fucking agree on a stat
No
Is she worth getting from mileage
dude has a genshin pfp so im gonna assume his opinion is the shit one
tf you mean no? it has spd and dmg for her
Charge speed bonus exponentially scales.
Wait for few days, these nerds are hyping her up
Democracy 

just get 3 charge speed lines ez
Next banner?
unless you know you have enough for anni units
too late, 600 mileage tickets burned to mlb
and almost no gems/vouchers
november so month after next
worth
Ah k
So after testing 2b still the more worth to invest collab chara?
Got both LB1
Sitting on 400 tickets so can get either LB2
So I dont fucking care
I wanna get at least 1 attack line
But it fucking gives me crit rate
Fucking game
Time to use her with Mast, I guess 
no quarry for you
sounds like your a problem
good

saying charge spd is bad holy
kek
FUCKING GAME RIGHED
kek bricked
Cooking with Emma reject common sense
imagine having enough rocks to tinker with stats cri
Btw charge speed is BAD BAD BAD BAD NAD
Are you okay?
how is A2 numbers looking?
let him cook
She's sorta cooking it seems
But ill wait for more testing
AGHHHHHHHHH
aite aite
shes cooking with the sauce
She wasn't kidding with that "Objective: destroy machine lifeforms" ngl to you

Damage diff from 14 ammo with 0 charge speed vs 14 ammo with 15% charge speed
Only 15% (3 lines)
Attack gives u 11% each
Decide urself

I tried
U just dont
A2 has given my Maxwell a new home
So atk element dmg charge dmg ?
Rest in peace Power
Actually A2 does pair with Max better
But she pairs better with Liter and Blanc and Noir

17.833333
20.73333333
To real
But one advantage of chg spd over attack is
PVP USAGE
LOL
But in PvE attack is better
Dont copium

13.6333333
Sec
18.04444
My A2 deals 24.4% more damage than base A2 thanks to OL line, while wasting 8 rocks.
i heard some1 saying to not upgrade her chest past ol
With about 5 good rolls, you can get around 50% dps boost with 4 attack and 1 ammo.
This can get diluted though.
If you use her with Liter and Noir, the dilution is so heavy it doesnt matter.
4 attack rolls and 1 ammo is 54% damage boost.
I want attack thats why
I was investing a lot
- 4 ATK + 1 AMMO = 54%
- 3 CHG SPD + 2 AMMO = 24.4%
Dilution matters. In certain teams, the value of ATK weakens with more ATK buffs from support units, and the value of charge speed increases.
Assuming Maxwell with 43%, it dilutes to around 26% (lmao) for Maxwell buff. And 2nd type gains 17% more from it, making it 38~40%.
so the usual attack roll and ammo cap bonus, gotcha
The ideal OL route is most likely 1-2 attacks with a few charge speed and ammo lines.
Because this will allow you to reach 54% boost with 0 dilution.
So like atk roll is best
Has always been
The rest just take whatever life gives?
But just go for what u get first
2b be like
Because getting 5% attack roll is worse than getting 4.92% charge speed
Just take whatever comes first
Believe in ur luck

Bro I wasted so many rocks
Fuck
Shit
I locked the last ammo line
Thinking I can get attack in the above 2
BUT IT WAS NOTHING

But listen up
Chg spd stacking is meta

Fk u

So 4 ammo lines is a big no no right @granite lynx ?
cry grind some more
Why
What are u trying to do with 22 ammo A2

duality of kisenix
where is the f2pbtw
My A2 deals 26% more damage than normal A2.
So shit
Need more attack lines
Fuck u attack lines
Where did u fucking go
Bitch
Watching people play A2
Im thinking that locking isnt the way to go
locking big trap
Whatβs the consensus on A2 right now 
Nah im still a believer of Liter Noir Alice Blanc A2 comp
lel
does anybody else have an issue against chatter where they break the core too fast and he does the team wipe attack?
yeah fuck me I went 0 gems 0 tickets and no a2 :wahahaha:
cuz a2 is giving me that issue rn
Ammo, chg spd, chg dmg, crit dmg, Crit rate give similar %.
Attack tho
Is like 2x higher

I am an A2 Liter Blanc Noir believer
idk
lol
Attack all the way
then 2/2 ol , good
She gets heavily diluted if u put her in Liter comp tho
In which case charge speed will shine
its so fucking stupid that a2 is bad vs chatter cuz she breaks the core too fast cuz of skill 1
Huh
Liter comp for what, story mode A2?
I think thats the only comp that can break parts the fastest
A2 and Mod share a similar role where
Both of them want more ATK
Huh
no reward
laplace is much more consistent than A2 against SI chatter
cuz i can aim away from the core lmaooooooo
Huh
???????
idk wtf you guys are doing
watching my boy sky testing 
Is sky doing another 21 hours 
just do more damage and kill him before he kills you 
You know fk min max imma just gonna ol 4x and save rocc
more dmg means faster core break which means faster wipe 

what teams are you guys running with A2
thats why i have to replace a2 with a shittier character like lap cuz she doesnt break core 30% faster
my a2 will probably not make it for this raid lol, Im still busy gearing up like 2 more team comps
CB literally dies in 24 secs for me 
all OL'ed to oblivion right? makes sense
No just fast shoot on Alice 
sounds like hand pain to swipe left and right each time to hit every missile
you can just aim at center with a2
ah no fast shoot the right side
basically I nuke his right shoulder and left shoulder within the 10 sec FB window
with alice
So what sort of units work well with A2?

im thinking a unit like maxwell and yuni for A2 team
i just use scar sanis for every SII now
Alice and snowwhite
i mean A2 can be auto we wont need to control her
Doro's S1 gives team partbreaking damage. 
pierce/water weak/part damage amp/nuke burst
A2 + Dorothy = +90% partbreaking damage
well 3 rocks in a row, score
fire code nikke burst 3 all too stonk, we have alice,modernia and now A2 so hard to choose
its the elemental history
drake not included?
Fire > Electric > Iron > Wind = Water
yeah drake also
if only we have a mono fire buffer similar to S.Mary...
1/1/1 no manufacturing clothes, chatterbox
what about crow? dont forget about her
but scarlet exist so in nikke, its a battle between fire and electric as strongest
Drake's burst is in no way comparable in priority to the others listed 
a2 good ? s tier?
red hood surely
wait for red hood
fire is stronger than electric

last raid was electric advantage and fire disatvantage
Also Guillotine who is technically stronger. 
yet fire competed so hard
sad no blanc π¦
Bruh, 100 pulls for 1 copy for me π
i see 0 fire being buffed outside of miranda and shes not attacker
i got both 2B and A2 in 10 pulls
though i had to burn all my gems last week for 2B MLB...
Fire: Alice, Modernia, Nier Nikkes
Electric: Scarlet, Guillotine, S Anis
Iron: Snow White, Maxwell, Laplace
Wind: Guilty, D (kind of)
Water: 
in turn, you shall never get blanc ever again
give a bit of credit to helm
shes doing her best lokl
why the 'again'? i never got her in the first place
Water just has good support 
Helm is amazing in every way except damage
eh figure of speech, ignore the again part
Speaking of Helm, how's A2's lifesteal using Helm's burst? 
its funny how water has 0 strong nikke but then you got ingrid:
"MUH NIKKES R BATL SPECHIALISTO, WE GUD WAR MONGER, TRUST ME, I GOT BOOBA"

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