[A2] New Unit Megathread

[reef plover]

yea but

i want to stare at a2

[royal brook]

[celest urchin]

I feel like new version reduce her delay in Nikkepedia?
Pushing sword to swing: 24 => 22 frames
Swing done and go back: 24 => 22 frames

delay goes from 0.8s => 0.7333s

so big

[serene juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/cope-seethe-copium-gif-4530870914968371816

[royal brook]

hmm actually no copium?

[distant belfry]

very slightly less copium

[mystic olive]

A2 is coming, prepare your copium.

Would she be a new meta? i vote ❎

[granite lynx]

Unfortunately she will be.

Her theoretical DPS already exceeds most units.

Gatrix calculated wrongly.

I already pointed out his mistakes.

He compared units with AMMO OL, which is what A2 doesn't want, and then he forgot S2.

As long as she is hitting 2+ more parts.

Against Mother Whale, she is META.

Against Nihil, she is META.

Against ALTEISEN, she is probably meta.

Until 2nd phase.

Against Chatterbox, she is META.

[royal brook]

why does a2 not want max ammo lines?

[granite lynx]

Reload is 1.5s.

Excluding reload cube.

And also, she shoots slowly.

Unlike Alice.

Alice needs ammo because she needs to shoot as fast as possible within 10s.

A2 doesn't follow that.

A2 has low attack but high multiplier scaling.

She benefits more from ATK OL.

Her shooting time is around 1 shot per second.

[royal brook]

[granite lynx]

With 1.5s reload time, she scales worse with ammo than shotguns.

Shotgun is 6:2

A2 is 6:1.5

Scales worse.

But I mean if you dont have rocks, 1 ammo is fine.

[royal brook]

[granite lynx]

3 attack, 1 ammo

Or 3 elemental, 1 ammo

2 attack, 1 elemental, 1 ammo

2 attack, 2 elemental

Charge speed is favored because

Pvp things

[royal brook]

should i overload my frima?

[stable sphinx]

what about charge dmg?

[royal brook]

@granite lynx

[granite lynx]

No.

Why

[royal brook]

did you say frima was really good

[granite lynx]

If u dont have anything else, why not

[granite lynx]

Not for A2 u dumdum

[royal brook]

yea for 2b

should i overload my frima

[granite lynx]

Yea 2B

No

Her max hp isnt based on her HP

Overload SMary instead

Core 7

5 5 5 5

10 10 10

[granite lynx]

Worst of all 5

But better than nothing

[royal brook]

i should 10 10 10 my s. mary skills?

[granite lynx]

I suggest OLing all 4 gear first

And go from there

I have around 34 rocks

Today

Im ready

[royal brook]

OL +5 all my S. mary pieces?

ive saved up for 3 weeks all my gear exp thanks ill do that

[stable sphinx]

ok. then it's atk=ele>speed>ammo>dmg. right?

[reef plover]

444 or 545 is probably all you need for smary

[royal brook]

let me play along

[granite lynx]

Atk > Ele >> Speed = Ammo > Dmg

She doesn't have that many attack.

So elemental damage is less useful than attack.

Attack will make her more versatile.

She can kill ANY bosses that have more than 2 parts.

Especially Mother Whale.

But even with Elemental, she can't do shit against Wind bosses without parts.

I want Mother Whale.

For UR, please.

It will be fun.

She will hit all parts and destroy all rocks.

[mystic olive]

Me with Alice and SW heavy investment: "How cute."

[reef plover]

the problem with attack is

too muc hattack and now she has the highest attack in a party possibly

[mystic olive]

hattack?

what the heck is hattack

[reef plover]

typo lol

[mystic olive]

i read it as "hit-rate-attack"

[reef plover]

should've read it as

too much attack

cause thats waht the sentence was going for

[mystic olive]

https://nikke.gg/a2-early-thoughts/

prepare for nikkegg to throw everything in Recycle bin when realize A2 not meta

[stable sphinx]

i remember people said that Modernia is trash tier before her release

[granite lynx]

Nah, she wont

Unless u pair her with mod

Which is quite dumb and good at the same time

[mystic olive]

expect low so your disappointment stay low

[reef plover]

possible with alice

at least my lb0 sw ended up passing my maxwell with full ol

cause of all the attack rolls i got

[granite lynx]

Pairing her with alice is quite dumb

Alice and mod break parts

A2 doesnt want parts to break

She wants them intact

For her to fucking hit

[reef plover]

im saying it as an example

[granite lynx]

Oh

Okay

[reef plover]

since she doens't have like an innate attack buff

[granite lynx]

A2 probably pairs well with shotguns

In blacksmith

You aim for body core

Guilty

[mystic olive]

I'm more worry about anti spam click on A2...
Who know will Shift Up do that for future NIKKE

[granite lynx]

Will be her best friend

Guilty will tank for A2

[mystic olive]

"guilty" "tank"

[granite lynx]

Yes

Bro

Solo raid now hits highesy ATTACK

Making attackers the best, taunter

[mystic olive]

https://tenor.com/view/aynepotter-gif-25663910

[granite lynx]

Liter Blanc A2 Noir Guilty

Can A2 break both turrets in time?

I can run Doro Alice Privaty and just copium.

Doro Alice Privaty SMary B2 like Novel

Demoted Alice

Last one can be N102 SHelm Maxwell Helm Mod

I stopped advising N102

Dumb

Look at my Maiden Drake

Not used at all

[mystic olive]

Either way, i'm broke on resources for upgrading 2B

Manu body is already at lv 4

[granite lynx]

Wait

For reset

Soon

Soline will be fixed

And that will 100% come with reset

[mystic olive]

fixed? what?

i haven't read the latest patch

[granite lynx]

Revision:

• 1 ammo OL is fine.

2 ammo OLs are bad. Reroll immediately.

Damage increase from 2nd ammo is less than 3%.

Damage increase from 1st ammo is around 7-8%.

Attack buff is almost flat for A2, so 10% is around 9-11%, considering enemy defense.

But it has a diminishing return.

At 4th attack buff, its kinda similar to ammo.

Attack have a higher chance of dilution from support units' buffs.

So, 1 ammo, rest is attack or elemental.

If youre out of rocks, 2 ammo is fine.

But thats a bit copium.

It also depends on charge speed.

The more charge speed, the higher ammo benefits.

There needs to be more testing.

Charge damage is 2.6~3.4%.

[pale patio]

https://tenor.com/view/copium-cat-gif-27161395

Bro should be banned from spamming the emote

Actually unhinged

[granite lynx]

Sorry first ammo is 9.5%.

Uptime Gain: 9.5%, 4.7%, 2.25%, 1.87%

2nd ammo is better than charge damage

But 3rd ammo is already worse than charge damage

Attack Gain: 8.69%, 8%, 7.4%, 6.9%

Charge speed is a joke

Ideally, you aim for 4 attacks, and get 1 ammo as a bonus, or 2.

[fair depot]

Why charge speed bad

[granite lynx]

Charge speed is only good if ure close to 100%.

Asssuming you use Maxwell

Thats 40 chg spd

20% chg spd is around 33% dmg boost but that doesnt consider ammo bottleneck and animation lock

33% is its MAX benefits

Its actually lower

As it spends ammo faster

But it increases ammo benefits too

If u wanna go the charge speed route

You need to get 4 charge speed

No less

And 2-3 ammo

There are 2 paths:

• Charge Speed route
• Attack route

One requires you to stack charge speed, up to 4 times, and you want at least 1 max ammo if paired with Noir, or 2 if alone.

And you need Alice too

She wants A LOT

Greedy

Give Yuni if needed

Id go for attack route but do what u think is better

[wide gorge]

it can't be worse than 2B can it? she needs HEAVY INVESTMENT after all

[fossil sinew]

[celest urchin]

actually I did state she increased extremely well with ammo

but well

whatever floats your boat

[fair depot]

our boat was already sunk

[serene juniper]

nice name

a2 believer

[flat tapir]

[marble snow]

Few more hours till banner

Here's to A2 being dogshit 🥂

||I am hoping she's bad fr||

[finite hemlock]

https://tenor.com/view/madge-gif-23552833

[scarlet cradle]

https://tenor.com/view/nier-nier-automata-my-opinion-your-opinion-your-opinion-meme-gif-25704902

[brazen zealot]

Same

[clear nebula]

A2 is going to destroy parts fast enough that that shouldn't really matter. It's not like her skill is like Laplace's where she's dealing bonus damage to the boss

She just rips through part HP

And in challenge mode solo raid a lot of the time parts are so durable that you're not breaking them regardless.

[fair depot]

6.37 hrs

[sullen mica]

If you hit boss + part you deal x2 damage

[clear nebula]

Any RL does that

And there are plenty of bosses that allow multi-hits for explosions even without parts

And with a bonus to part damage, A2 will be destroying most bosses' parts even without help

[sullen mica]

The slower you destroy it the more damage

And for the previous bs raid it takes almost the entire fight to destroy both guns with alice bunnies team

[clear nebula]

By that logic, levelling skill 2 reduces her damage.

It wasn't even damage-efficient to destroy the guns in solo raid.

[sullen mica]

No, you destroy parts slower by aiming the rest of your team at boss body while letting A2 damage parts with splash

[clear nebula]

But skill 2 makes her destroy parts faster

[sullen mica]

The point is to let characters with splash deal damage to parts, it doesn't matter if they destroy it faster

[clear nebula]

And this argument negates Kisenix's argument that pairing her with Alice is bad since Alice is fine to use if you just don't shoot the guns with her

so we're actually in agreement

In battles where Alice can easily destroy parts, A2 will easily destroy them, too

[sullen mica]

Idk, maybe?

[clear nebula]

Challenge Mode solo raid is the only exception

where even Alice struggles to break parts

My argument was that Alice's part-breaking ability is irrevelant to A2

[sullen mica]

Tho it's harder to aim for the core at the center with alice

[clear nebula]

Skill issue

[sullen mica]

Because autoaim doesn't work

[clear nebula]

People use autoaim in solo raid?

[sullen mica]

[wide gorge]

i don't think the auto aimers care for min-max anything

[clear nebula]

I only ever use it for the meme bosses in union raid like Thermite

[sullen mica]

I mean the aim assist

[clear nebula]

Yeah, I know

[wide gorge]

but on the part breaking

should be fine as long as there's a core to distract the other dps with

[clear nebula]

Auto-aim is mostly a detriment vs Tyrant Class enemies

Except maybe Storm Bringer.

[wide gorge]

union raid fucked a2 by leaving the parts squishy

[clear nebula]

Not really. A2 isn't entirely reliant on parts

[wide gorge]

she wants unlimited health parts lol

[clear nebula]

That's what I'm not getting

RL gets extra hits on non-breakable parts, too

A2's skill isn't like Laplace's where she gets more damage than any other RL would

[sullen mica]

[wide gorge]

it's nothing complicated

the more a2 hits the higher her dps is

[sullen mica]

What are non-breakable parts?

[clear nebula]

Two hits on Black Smith, not hitting the guns

cuz head + shoulder

Bosses have multiple hit zones, regardless of hp bars or not

[wide gorge]

are both shoulders considered as a part?

[clear nebula]

Similar to how Modernia can triple-hit Alteisen with her burst

[wide gorge]

then main body + shoulders + canons = 5 parts?

i wonder if they get the part dmg boost

maybe not

and these are just different areas of the main body

[clear nebula]

If they don't have HP bars, they can't get a part damage boost

The damage boost isn't towards the boss hp

it's just towards breaking the part

[wide gorge]

yeah as i thought

[clear nebula]

If A2 deals 100 damage hitting two spots, the boss takes 200 damage while the breakable part takes 140 (and the non-breakable 100)

[wide gorge]

a2 in shambles yet again

[clear nebula]

She deals 240 damage, but 40 damage is exclusive to the part's hp

Meanwhile Laplace's skill uniquely deals more damage to the boss itself rather than the part; hitting a part is the the requirement for activation

A2 is like Dorothy and D

Doesn't mean she'll be bad tho

Just means that people should be focusing on bosses with multiple hitzones rather than breakable parts

(unless those parts are problematic, like for Alteisen, or they result in a ton of damage taken, like Harvester & Mother Whale)

[wide gorge]

it was alr clear that blacksmith was nier shill but this makes it clearer to me

[clear nebula]

But yeah, A2 will probably shine best in Solo Raid Challenge mode where parts stay intact

Especially with her getting S Neon levels of radius (1500 units), she'll probably 5x hit Blacksmith as long as the guns are intact.

[wide gorge]

it was speculated that a2 could hit all parts at once vs blacksmith that's a big radius ngl

[clear nebula]

She has a larger base radius than other RL

If I heard correctly and she does indeed have S Neon's radius, then yeah, she'll be getting huge multi-hits

[wide gorge]

am i seeing 6 hits?

are all these from sneon?

maybe the 16000 is someone else's

[clear nebula]

I'm trying to replicate that. One might've been a hit from Centi since I used her to charge burst

Consistently getting 5 hits tho

[wide gorge]

yeah that's 5 hits

a2 will pop off can't wait

[clear nebula]

I'm definitely excited for her, broken or not

[wide gorge]

i'm very happy they are even viable that was my hope going into this event

[clear nebula]

I kind of figured that the devs wouldn't be so foolish as to make Nier characters of all things weak.

I was just worried they'd be super niche

Seems like that won't be an issue. 🙏

Sadly my ability to test her today will be limited; out of gear exp, so I'll only have one OL gear on her post-reset probably

[sullen mica]

That's 3 hits

Neon burst deals additional damage against fire

[clear nebula]

Ah, true! (shows how much I use S Neon)

Lemme fish around to see if I can manage 10 (5) hits then.

[sullen mica]

Those are probably just guns getting in explosion radius but idk

[clear nebula]

I do think the "body" is only one hitzone, so at most 4 hits.

Catching the damage numbers in screenshots is the hardest part.

[sullen mica]

Still 3?

[clear nebula]

That's 9 hits tho

[sullen mica]

Bombs

[clear nebula]

あ

Yeah, 3x might be max

Lemme try destroying the guns

tfw S Neon's most useful ability is simulating how A2 will fire

Yup, that's a body hit and two hits for the guns

Went down to 2x when a gun was destroyed

[spiral sedge]

So 2lb worth for A2?

[wide gorge]

for soloraid yeah why not

[clear nebula]

She's not even out yet, so still no way to tell

[wide gorge]

just spend all the money you have

good for us

[clear nebula]

Though I can say 100% that 0LB vs 3LB isn't relevant if your goal is just top 1%

[wide gorge]

i think a full roster of lb0 is enough for 1%

[clear nebula]

Yup

[wide gorge]

but last time i said that people laughed at me

[clear nebula]

1% is just player skill + proper skills/gear investment (and of course the gacha luck to get critical Nikkes)

(in case people want to try to say I have no idea what I'm talking about)

[sullen mica]

Lb don't give you much

In content where CP doesn't matter

[clear nebula]

LB matters a lot more for HP-based characters since we can't stack HP very easily

[sullen mica]

Unless you go straight to core7 but that is a whale territory

[clear nebula]

but since OL gear give ATK rolls, Attackers don't really need dupes much

[sullen mica]

Attacks rolls based on your base attack

[clear nebula]

So between 2B and A2, I'd say throw more gacha at 2B and more gear/skill mats at A2, tentatively

[sullen mica]

And lb increase your base attacks

[clear nebula]

I'm not saying dupes don't benefit

But OL gear does literally nothing for HP-based Nikkes

aside from the base stat upgrades which influence ATK based Nikkes equally

You at least have options.

I don't think either Nier character's dupes are worth golden tickets tho

[sullen mica]

It doesn't matter, it increases your attack/hp equally

[wide gorge]

that's what i reasoned too a week ago when someone asked

basically 2b has a big attack number that's made out of 2 smaller numbers

by increase the 2 smaller numbers by 2% ultimately the big atk number is also increased by 2%

not more than any other b3

[clear nebula]

Opportunity cost-wise, it's better to get dupes of 2B unless something about A2's kick makes her seriously broken

[wide gorge]

but at least you can say bonds have an effect which is also minimal at lvl 400

[clear nebula]

But atm, I don't see A2 being "broken" by my terms (being significantly stronger than Pilgrims)

S Anis was a fluke.

[wide gorge]

sanis being a team buffer as well really changes things

[clear nebula]

I doubt we'll get another non-Pilgrim unit as strong as her unless we get an SSR version of normal Rapi

[wide gorge]

i honestly think it could happen

a character like sanis really makes you 'omg i wanna whale to distribute sanis atk to the whole team' kind of deal

unlike liter who is such a mistake top tier support even at lb0 or core 7 no difference

[clear nebula]

I feel like they wanted to pull out the stops since Anis is so popular (especially since she would've been even stronger with her original reload). Nier, similarly, is loved by a lot of people, so they wanted to make sure they were solid characters

But, while 2B is definitely strong, she's not broken imo

[wide gorge]

yeah that's how i feel too

[clear nebula]

and A2's numbers make me feel like she won't be, either

Although I'm very excited to use her in hard campaign

[wide gorge]

the community has been crying about the limited characters not being good enough that's why i think this is something we'll see more of in the future

[clear nebula]

I think seasonals will still generally be mid and/or niche

[marble snow]

I hope they nerfed her

[wide gorge]

wow hater

[clear nebula]

Who?

2B? A2? S Anis?

[wide gorge]

a2

[clear nebula]

I feel like the only thing in her kit potentially worth nerfing is the radius

[marble snow]

I wonder who I would be talking about

In #1146732876960890960

[clear nebula]

None of her stat buffs are particularly strong

[marble snow]

I hope she's bad in pvp

PvE can die for all I care

So stale

[wide gorge]

i really think she's bad in pvp

[marble snow]

PvP at least works properly (no perfect defence)

[clear nebula]

PvP is more stale that PvE imo Everyone using literally the same teams

[marble snow]

Start cooking then

Be different

[sterile ember]

and lose

[clear nebula]

[wide gorge]

lose to scar jack and sanis

[marble snow]

They need to make new bosses

Cuz I don't wanna be playing the same boss I already play on SI

Not to mentioned the fucking.
Gave us this shithead again

[wide gorge]

interesting bosses please

[marble snow]

They already used blacksmith

2 raids ago

[sterile ember]

didnt u like train but different

[sullen mica]

But he is white now

[sterile ember]

kek

[sullen mica]

Totally new

[wide gorge]

snow edition

[clear nebula]

If they keep their promise, this time no RNG

[sullen mica]

[clear nebula]

Plus he'll be a fun punching bag for Nier nikkes

and Sakura works

[wide gorge]

wow sakura buff

[sullen mica]

Ofc, now he just always aims at your attackers

[clear nebula]

Doesn't bother me.

Although I thought I saw that he still targets highest hp

meaning that A2 will be safe while 2B gets the tentacles

(assuming they're used on the same team, which is doubtful)

[wide gorge]

first attack = highest atk

[clear nebula]

Oh, that's it? Use taunter = ez

[wide gorge]

it wouldn't surprise me if the boss has weak atk this time like alexander

[clear nebula]

A2 will definitely need to be careful in solo raids tho

cuz high damage attacks could knock her below 40% regardless of healing ability on the team

looks at Harvester laser

[wide gorge]

i was hoping they would lower her burst hp requirement with a few% because 40% is a bit tough to work with even full health nikke will go that low when targeted

a2's archetype is supposed to be a berserker but here she's the opposite

entering low hp% makes her unusable

what kind of berserker is that

[clear nebula]

Honestly she'd overlap with Guillotine's kit if she had the opposite system tho

and rn we don't have proper supports to manage that sort of kit

[wide gorge]

how about her burst is active until healed

pair her with noise and solved

or not noise also heals

[clear nebula]

That would limit her to pretty much only ever being with Noise tho

[wide gorge]

can't be worse than 2b

she is oh so reliant on her supports and needs so much investment

[clear nebula]

and pretty much eliminate her from solo raid use

What good DPS units don't need specific team comps or high investment?

[wide gorge]

maybe the only answer is modernia and even then she scales so well with high investment

[clear nebula]

Modernia requires specific team comps tho

You're locked into a I-II-III-III-III comp for 99% of fights

She can't use utility B1s

[wide gorge]

then i don't think any b3 can get away without investment

[clear nebula]

Exactly. Which is why the hate on 2B is silly

[wide gorge]

i think 2b's quite flexible because she's not tied to liter/bunnies and then ppl act like it's a con

[winter ridge]

I feel like the 2B hate is because everyone skipped Mast.

[clear nebula]

A2 is going to be more support reliant than 2B imo

Requires heavy healing + probably charge speed buffs

2B enjoys HP but doesn't even require it

[wide gorge]

4x elemental dmg ol for this boss

[clear nebula]

The fact Novel ends up about even with Mast for 2B means that 2B's no different than Scarlet who also enjoys Novel.

[serene juniper]

so all the talk about rocket launchers hitting twice

on boss body

does that mean A2 is good or not?

[clear nebula]

No idea, but probably

Until we can use her, it's all just speculation

Technically no numbers are even final yet

[wide gorge]

a2 will be fantastic on this boss i'm more worried about all the others after her elemental shill + robust parts shill is over

[clear nebula]

Nothing can stop the devs from pushing a last minute patch before reset to tweak something.

[serene juniper]

if A2 banner is also 4 weeks long

you still have enough time until UR

[clear nebula]

I'm honestly looking at A2's campaign potential more than anti-boss potential

[serene juniper]

to decide if more copies of A2 is worth it

[clear nebula]

ye

SR will be the true test for both

[serene juniper]

I don't think A2 won't do what modernia can do for campaign

[wide gorge]

you can even wait until after raid is over and look at the top teams

[clear nebula]

Remember that not everyone is blessed with Modernia tho

[serene juniper]

skill issue

[wide gorge]

campaign has too much shit that attacks you i'm not really confidant about it

[clear nebula]

There are several people in my union still lacking her and are constantly depressed because level guides without her are near impossible to find

[wide gorge]

there's 1 player

who does insane shit

with liter bunnies alice privaty

he holds server records on global with lowest cp clears

on some of the hardest stages

[clear nebula]

That's another reason I'm kind of salty about reactions to 2B (and probably A2 as well, starting after reset). I get that veterans who have near to if not all Nikkes are going to be looking big picture

but for newer players, F2P, or unlucky players, Pilgrims aren't a great basis for comparison

Thanfully in A2's case, we don't have an RL Attacker Pilgrim yet, so her kit may be unique enough to avoid those comparisons more

[wide gorge]

i've heard some complaints from newer players about how it's always compared to scarlet

for us we roughly know where scarlet stands relative to all the other dps but they have no point of reference with scarlet vs guillotine etc

but who'se going to put it all the work lol

[clear nebula]

Guillotine's a terrible reference point too cuz she's technically way stronger than Scarlet, but actually producing that power is near impossible with current support comps

A2 will be more easily compared with Laplace and Vesti (and less usefully Power)

since RL

potentially Alice, too, since her overcharge mechanic is like a slow Alice burst

2B being AR made her a direct competitor to Scarlet (especially with floor wipe burst)

[wide gorge]

for campaign i think her forced animation is what sets her back a bit because she won't be like centi generating burst as much as possible

[clear nebula]

Mhm. But Centi produces enough burst on her own that I don't think that's much of an issue

She's still my primary B2 for campaign even now

And with campaign largely being a "kill things before they hit you" situation, the hp mechanic on A2 may not be that problematic

[wide gorge]

i shifted towards bunnies more nowadays but centi is nice if the stage really needs it

[clear nebula]

My Blanc luck is terrible (0LB), so her CP is way too low

[wide gorge]

yeah then it won't work

[clear nebula]

Plus terrible burst gen means someone dies before burst happens

[wide gorge]

centi's higher cp is basically a big dps buff

[clear nebula]

A2 won't help much since she doesn't get radius increase until after burst

[spiral sedge]

u can push at higher cp gap with bunnies, not with centi+flex

[clear nebula]

Though I guess she'll be great for burst gen on second burst.

[clear nebula]

In my experience, Centi + Noir has gotten me further than Blanc + Noir.

[spiral sedge]

living on edge gaming

[serene juniper]

centi+priv gang, because my alice ammo OL gacha sucks

so I need that priv reload buff

[wide gorge]

i use alice/scarlet/modernia if i really need that damage

[clear nebula]

Priv stun is 👌 too

[wide gorge]

full force

[flat tapir]

Wait A2 today?

[wide gorge]

yes

[clear nebula]

In 5 hours, ye

[flat tapir]

Bruh I don't even have 2B yet

[wide gorge]

a2 after reset

[flat tapir]

[wide gorge]

how many gems?

or golden

[serene juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/money-burn-cash-shoveling-gif-5348644

[flat tapir]

170 pulls bro nothing

[clear nebula]

Ouch

[wide gorge]

wow

i thought my 70 pulls was a bit over the top but still glad i got a 2b copy

[clear nebula]

That was my Modernia banner luck

[serene juniper]

but modernia is 1%

[clear nebula]

ye

[flat tapir]

Not even Pilgrams did this to me

[clear nebula]

That's pain

[flat tapir]

Society

[clear nebula]

I plan to MLB A2, but not sure if I'll go beyond

Not tempted to max core either currently

[flat tapir]

You're healer is gonna pay the price for max core

[wide gorge]

blanc max core worth

[clear nebula]

I'm one of the rare creatures that MLB'd S Mary, so I have an edge there

[flat tapir]

Core 2 pepper gonna do things aswell

🧎 can't wait for A2

Is she releasing with solo raid?

[clear nebula]

Solo raid next week

They are giving us time to invest

[flat tapir]

Enough time to cope I get her with the few pulls they give

[clear nebula]

I want A2 also just to bully SI Alteisen more

[flat tapir]

This thread gonna be on fire tonight I'm so here for that

[clear nebula]

[wide gorge]

if they're smart then they release new bundles in the shop after a2's release so whales can do some investing if you know what i mean

and do this every time a new character releases

'character investment bundle'

[clear nebula]

They always add new skill mat bundles with the character banners

so I'm expecting that

if they don't, I'll cry

[spiral sedge]

those monthly resource pass boxes paying off

[clear nebula]

I'm a hoarder, so I don't want to use them.

[serene juniper]

had to use some of them to level up ASS burst

[clear nebula]

Plus I'm playing the long game for Crown, so I'm just naturally stingy about my resources in general (even though we probably won't get her until next year)

[serene juniper]

Crown may be in new year like Modernia

or next half anniv

[clear nebula]

Mhm. Never know.

That's the main reason I probably won't max core 2B/A2

2B's good enough that I MLB'd her. Unless A2 is broken, I'll do the same for her

[flat tapir]

Coping for Crown and Chime For anniversary

[serene juniper]

A2 for UR faces tough competition since there's only 3 teams.

SR at this point is also a tool just to sell new releases.
so idk about A2's longevity.

if you can cook A2 for campaign, congrats ig

[clear nebula]

We're also getting more gamemodes in the future

[serene juniper]

really?

[clear nebula]

Mhm

[serene juniper]

must've forgotten about those in past dev notes

saving grace is gonna be pvp

see if A2 can hit all 5 nikkes if she aims p3

[clear nebula]

Can't remember which one, but I'm pretty sure I remember them stating that they wanted to add more.

[clear nebula]

Problem would still be how to get her to aim at P3

[wide gorge]

or at least not be stuck on p1

hitting 4 at once will be wonderful too no doubt

[granite lynx]

Yes

She hits 2 adjacent

4 adjacent with S1

2 adjacent without S1

Mathematically

But realistically no one knows

[sullen mica]

No one tests neon burts in pvp?

Should be the same radius

Unless they code it differently for pvp somehow

[scarlet cradle]

3h before community go rabid

[reef plover]

so hype to finally get a2

[spiral sedge]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1118553551032037487/1119041726133313677/1080421656398397480_1.gif

[granite lynx]

2:52

[brazen zealot]

The fk is that name

Rigging elections huh, criminal

[flat tapir]

Sooon

[marble snow]

What elections is blud even talking about

A2 (aka mid) soon™

[azure temple]

Any enjoyers

[mild escarp]

Scarlet or the copium?

[azure temple]

[flat tapir]

A2 meta soon

🦗

[mild escarp]

All of us have basically overdosed on that stuff by now

God I hope a2 is meta

[azure temple]

https://tenor.com/view/copium-gif-22994175

[mild escarp]

She alone is going to set a new healer meta

[dull oracle]

I'm here for the one copy and MLB testing

[flat tapir]

separate the girls from the woman

[spiral sedge]

The galpin one

[flat tapir]

enter the ranks

And fire Siege

[fair depot]

[spiral sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/lets-ride-nicolas-cage-gone-in60seconds-okay-gif-7806996

[flat tapir]

She's OP WTF

Source, Me

[solemn marsh]

Not sure if we can proper testing her out if her damange are burst dependance as we expected

[marble snow]

Just need the PvP testing really

The rest we already have

[verbal schooner]

is this a try to roll for OR 200 gold tickets

I have 420 gold

[marble snow]

Pls wait for us to inform

She just came out

[fair depot]

Woo got her

[topaz inlet]

4ol lv0 4/4/4

[mild escarp]

You a fan of a2 tho?

[solemn marsh]

ayo, you OL her already?

[flat tapir]

Use all mileage

[marble snow]

Full auto?

[topaz inlet]

yes but im manual 1st burst because forgor to change noir pos

[spiral sedge]

relax with the hype, people are asking serious investment question, im calling SEC on u

[marble snow]

Pls don't spread false info

[flat tapir]

Should I add a /j

[solemn finch]

nah

it's funnier this way

[flat tapir]

Lmao we discussed this a few minutes ago

Hours but yeah

[spiral sedge]

[solemn marsh]

• Full T9M +4
• 6/4/10
• C7
• Reload Cube Lv.7

(Scarlet Full OL5 with 55 Ammo)

Note that fight ends after A2 burst for few seconds so it's kinda bias

But yeah, the gear different can balance those burst bias, I guess.

[timid crystal]

what did you fight against?

[mild escarp]

Likely SI boss

[solemn finch]

Chatterbox

[timid crystal]

bosses with parts huh

[mild escarp]

Everyone is max core?

[marble snow]

@solemn marsh can you push and fight a tower boss?

To check DPS over 3 min

[solemn marsh]

Unfortunately, I can't.

[marble snow]

All good

[daring knot]

I know it's been 18mins

But
Better or worse than 2b 👀

[marble snow]

PvE: worse in most cases, better in some
PvP: probably better

[solemn marsh]

She's not investment depending as 2B.

[timid crystal]

dang, gotta wait for another minute for that

[solemn marsh]

That's all I can confirm for now, I guess.

[marble snow]

Yeah, edited

[polar mural]

whos more future proof?

as in uh more worth to mlb ig

[daring knot]

Hmm so for now looks like try to pull with currency

And don't ticket

[marble snow]

Feels like she needs more testing in PvP

But for PvE definitely 2b is the way

[daring knot]

By far 2b

[solemn marsh]

let's focus on testing her out for now, it's been 20 min since her out. We need more time

[daring knot]

That's just cause of how her damage tied to hp

[solemn marsh]

[marble snow]

Also true

[daring knot]

Yeah

[marble snow]

I'm just relaying what my demons are telling my intuition

[solemn finch]

that's all you need

your intuition

[solemn marsh]

The only thing that I can gaurantee right now is that her ass are pretty decent.

[wise quest]

Erm guys a2 just came out do I blow my life savings yet

[solemn finch]

Ofc

[wise quest]

[solemn finch]

do you see that tummy? 🤓

[lofty oxide]

See, Cece, Syuen leads you to the right places

[flat tapir]

Where is the A2 x Mast long awaited showcase

[lofty oxide]

Syuen C.E.O. is trustworthy

[flat tapir]

The EoS Duo

[solemn finch]

LMAO

[mild escarp]

2b got an ass upgrade, a2 got a bust upgrade

[flat tapir]

We should call Mast X A2 the kill switch combo

[solemn finch]

the new meta

[wide gorge]

i just logged in

is she yay nay?

[solemn marsh]

Not sure for 3 min fight but in short term fight like SI testing she's quite good imo.

[wide gorge]

got her in 60 pulls if only for collection's sake this is fine i'll be happy no matter what

feels good to at least not get cucked lmao

[solemn finch]

Stress test will take awhile

[solemn marsh]

Also, she's not investment dependency as 2B
Nevermind, in my testing I upgrade her burst to 10 so I can't say she's not investment required.

[solemn finch]

so far i've only seen ppl try bunnies with her

[flat tapir]

Meanwhile

I'm in the pits

[timid crystal]

sweet, here we go no gear 1/1/1 a2, ready to dominate the meta field

[solemn finch]

dont forget to bring your mast

[wide gorge]

a2 first no investment character

[marble snow]

Fuck it bros
Time to 200 tix her

I don't have the pulls for it

I made too many bad choices by pulling for Sneon banner and then ticketing her

Me when I pull for every limited character and then I have to tix cuz I don't have pulls

[sudden quail]

https://tenor.com/view/rip-coffin-black-ghana-celebrating-gif-16743302

[wide gorge]

huh i don't have abnormal attacker chest and legs?

[solemn marsh]

Did you feed it by any chance?

[solemn finch]

[wide gorge]

probably yes

[marble snow]

Can you text on a tribe tower boss, and try for a 2min+ run

[topaz inlet]

I cant

[lofty oxide]

you can use quency if no mast

[marble snow]

Seggs

[topaz inlet]

but she suck ass when cp thingy kick in

she deals no damage she deals damage

[wide gorge]

can she perma burst? is the healing tested?

[solemn finch]

works with bunnies so far

[granite lynx]

Wow

[granite lynx]

What are these first rolls

[topaz inlet]

wait

[solemn marsh]

Interesting, I'll try testing her out with a proper healing comp

[granite lynx]

Im going the charge speed route

[flat tapir]

If it makes you feel better I have to ticket both of them

[granite lynx]

Bye

[solemn finch]

charge speed LMAO

[flat tapir]

400 tickets

I love this event🦗

[granite lynx]

I spent 100

Pulls

Stfu

[flat tapir]

I spent 173

Bozo hush

[granite lynx]

For 1 copy

U bitch

[flat tapir]

I got no copies

[timid glacier]

My only concern if she’s viable for pvp

[granite lynx]

You sure there isnt anything wrong

Whats the investment

[mild escarp]

She benefit from short fight, so very likely she's good pvp

[tacit kayak]

A2 came home

[timid glacier]

Using abnormals for pve not gonna work because they can’t do tower and will be useless for campaign

[tacit kayak]

First x10 Pull

[topaz inlet]

tribe 176

[solemn finch]

you gotta drop the "f2pbtw" hot take

[topaz inlet]

4ol lvl 4 3 3 0 skill 7/7/7

[vague island]

RIP didn't get A2

[flat tapir]

Welcome to the club

[mild escarp]

Use tickets 💀

[flat tapir]

I called it

[reef plover]

Got my mlb a2 I’m happy

[wide gorge]

a2 sounds exactly like sugar in english lol

[timid glacier]

Or save for most likely next pilgrim banner

[tacit kayak]

I did use gems

[vague island]

Not enough ticket 💀

[granite lynx]

You can LB her

[mild escarp]

I got another set of 200 mileage

[granite lynx]

But dont upgrade her body

[nocturne chasm]

so how to test again?

[granite lynx]

That gives her HP

[solemn marsh]

Yes, her burst last indefinitely if you can keep up with the healing.

[topaz inlet]

#1146732876960890960 message

[timid glacier]

Imagine Crown and Chime together next banner

[wide gorge]

nice

[granite lynx]

Ugh

[mild escarp]

Fuk chime. All the homes hate chime

[timid glacier]

[granite lynx]

I have fucking 15% chg spd rolls

[nocturne chasm]

account gimped GG

[granite lynx]

LOL

[mild escarp]

Let's compare a2 with Alice but Alice don't get to burst

[granite lynx]

She bursts

Once

Its fair

[solemn marsh]

• Full T9M +4
• 6/4/10
• C7
• Reload Cube Lv.7

[mild escarp]

Oh OK

[marble snow]

Hmm thanks

[timid glacier]

Is this against one boss or waves of enemies?

[solemn marsh]

Fight with a lots of healer to maintain her B-Mode apprently not worth it

[solemn marsh]

Today's SI

[granite lynx]

5/5/5 Head5 Gloves0 Body0 Shoes0 15%chgspd 14ammo 0attack LB0 bond0

[solemn marsh]

You quick scoping Alice, right?

[topaz inlet]

mine is faster

[granite lynx]

Hmmmm

[timid glacier]

I’m curious how much damage she does if there wasn’t any interception parts

[polar mural]

C7 right?

[marble snow]

Stop comparing with modernia

No one is reaching mod unless very weird circumstances

[topaz inlet]

0 star

[marble snow]

Use someone else

[polar mural]

what the fuck

[flat tapir]

🦗let us send all these comparison's in main cord

[polar mural]

and alice is?

[timid glacier]

[polar mural]

[flat tapir]

And let them believe she's OP

Meanwhile she abusing chatterbox

[polar mural]

0 dupe a2

outpacing alice

core 4

[timid crystal]

try it on a partless boss guys lol

[tawdry flower]

Any other tests on a normal stage with no parts?

[flat tapir]

Mod tomorrow

[next cypress]

I mean, at least she'll be a solid pick for bosses with parts

[topaz inlet]

just dont use her on no parts boss

[timid glacier]

That’s honestly a significant difference between bosses with parts or not

[polar mural]

wasnt land whale multi parts too

[next cypress]

It is

SR union whale parts were so tanky they were practically impossible to destroy

Only top whale Alice teams could just barely break its core

[timid glacier]

Wonder how A2 do against Gravedigger, Material H, or Stormchaser

[granite lynx]

A2 does exceed Mod

In chatterbox

Lmao

[umbral spindle]

isn't the next solo raid blacksmith as well

[winter ridge]

How's the b mode upkeep?

[solemn marsh]

The question is that is Modernia using burst during test or not....

Use her burst on single target boss decreasing her overall damage right?

[brazen zealot]

So tldr? A2 is rl scarlet without the ult?

[timid glacier]

Most people don’t burst with Mod during bosses except specific ones

Black Smith is a specific case tho

[solemn marsh]

Just asking to confirming, that's all.

[timid glacier]

Actually for BS, her burst with bunnies shreds it’s health

Due to part damage

[solemn marsh]

Modernia is in the last slot so it's probably not bursting, I guess?

[solemn finch]

they talking about mod burst

[timid crystal]

you only want to burst with modernia to screen wipe stuff really

[timid glacier]

Modernia isn’t a “it”

[timid crystal]

with bosses, usually you dont

[timid glacier]

With a few exceptions depending on parts

[solemn marsh]

nah bro, by "it" I meant the commander who controlling her.

[granite lynx]

Ok dont use A2 in arena

So fucking slow

Slow

Like

A fucking snail

[timid crystal]

I dunno, it feels like you need to shoot 3 different parts at the same time to compensate her lower damage

[wide gorge]

as expected

[timid glacier]

[topaz inlet]

SI CB
bursting with a2 first 0.35 vs alice first 0.25

[ember spruce]

gravedigger bout to enter another coffin

[solemn marsh]

You mean her charging speed? Or her burst gauge generation?

[timid glacier]

Her first burst is basically useless right?

It has three phases?

[wide gorge]

no it all activates at once

[timid glacier]

Oh

[wide gorge]

alice just pops off with her own burst

[winter ridge]

How is the heal upkeep? Can Pepper handle it just fine?

[mild escarp]

I'm getting the feeling I can't save my mileage

[west meteor]

A2 seems to have very good damage

that's surprising

[timid glacier]

With numbers like these, there really should be a total damage score

[marble snow]

Well, no

[ember spruce]

expected

[marble snow]

Gatrix shared everything here yesterday

[granite lynx]

Wow I cant tell if charge speed or attack is better now

[marble snow]

Use both bitch

[timid crystal]

dont give up, you can still get 20 advanced tickets from the shop and login stamps

[wide gorge]

is her animation faster with charge speed? anyone know?

[timid crystal]

not to mention more gems before her deadline is over

[granite lynx]

Charging speed

Cant bitch

[marble snow]

I already saw

Reposter

[nocturne chasm]

naked

[timid glacier]

[granite lynx]

You werent there bitch

[mild escarp]

I got login stamp left. So maybe 20 pulls total including sp arena crystals. All isn't lost tho since I got 400 mileage

[marble snow]

Test in PvP

We already know everything about PvE through gatrix

Gatrix was correct

[next cypress]

5/5/6 LB1
+5 OL Helm/Gloves, +5 T9M chest
5% charge speed and 140% max ammo or something

[granite lynx]

Its shit

Dont

[marble snow]

Well, A2 is even more buffed now

[granite lynx]

FUCKING THINK ABOUT IT

[marble snow]

Stubborn ahh

[timid glacier]

Guess I’ll skip

[marble snow]

I'll have to ticket now,
I'll give PvP thoughts later

I need to sleep

[timid crystal]

cant think, brain ded from work

[granite lynx]

Ok anywaus

With 15% chg spd

She lands 2 shots

Before 3rd normal RL hits

Hope its enough

Bye

And yes she hits 3 enemies at the same time

Bye

At S1 level 5

She only hits 4 at burst

[timid crystal]

so with 15% charge speed, she basically generates the same energy as other RL like noise?

[granite lynx]

[granite lynx]

More

[timid crystal]

is it that 31.2 number?

[topaz inlet]

wdym total damage score?

[timid glacier]

Nvm that’s me being having a brain fart

[wide gorge]

Which cube is better for her?

[granite lynx]

Ok, no she is faster than 3 RL at 15% chg spd.

[wide gorge]

saved

[reef plover]

@granite lynx how far does her aoe hit?

not like unit, but cover

[next cypress]

Both reload and bastion are good. Bastion is probably better if you got decent max ammo rolls since it scales well with them

[brazen zealot]

I cant even be mad with a2 now

Did 20tickets

[wide gorge]

bs

[brazen zealot]

Tell me she is trash

[solemn finch]

LOL

[polar mural]

between a2 and 2b whose better to get lb2 with? cause 30 bond

[wide gorge]

[brazen zealot]

#show-off

[next cypress]

2b is universally more useful

[brazen zealot]

Check it

[reef plover]

probalby 2b if you only could get one cause hp

[brazen zealot]

[wide gorge]

u didn't even use gems lol

[brazen zealot]

Yep

Only got 40 tickets

Still got 20 left

[nocturne chasm]

https://tenor.com/view/a-little-bit-spicy-black-guy-memes-spicy-madmemer-gif-22162904

[solemn marsh]

ayo, it's like 2-3 seconds per shot wtf

[granite lynx]

15% chg spd

[reef plover]

cant tell cause dude has noah in the middle lol

[wide gorge]

it looks like a2 is slicing 4 targets

but idk who her main target was

[flat tapir]

But A2 assa

[timid crystal]

looks like you need to pair her with noah if you wanna use her as the main dps

[reef plover]

looks like she's hitrting 3 cover?

[solemn marsh]

so even if her burst increase the range of her AoE she still not able to hit 5 Nikke?

[timid crystal]

she's so slow lol

[wide gorge]

5 targets?

[timid crystal]

jackal link

[wide gorge]

oh yes

[neat holly]

hard to see since jackal sharing dmg

[timid crystal]

its hitting centi, dont think she hits rap

[neat holly]

[grave gyro]

jumping into the resume

[next cypress]

chatterbox

[wide gorge]

scarlet powercrept yet again

[grave gyro]

is she good or nah?

[wide gorge]

she looks really good vs parts

[next cypress]

2A pads a bit with bombs but

[neat holly]

out dmg scarlet if got 2+ part

[next cypress]

If she can consistenly keep hitting few parts she's quite solid

[wide gorge]

she's good enough for lb0 for raids why not

[next cypress]

Also I purposefully didn't aim at parts on my scarlet so I wouldn't destroy them and remove targets from A2

[granite lynx]

Shootin reng

Auto

[next cypress]

in an earlier test where I did that A2 beat Scarlet by 2m

[wide gorge]

can she hit 2+ targetso nthe shooting range?

after s1 is over

i didn't expect modernia to be so good when scarlet and a1 have multiple targets to fire at

[astral rose]

Guys, is my A2 good?

[vapid charm]

[astral rose]

Ayo wut thats crazy

[wide gorge]

biscuit is a top tier in sanis team

[flat tapir]

The problem is your not using Mast

[timid crystal]

is it uninvested? pretty good against a powerhouse like biscuit

[wide gorge]

yeah that's no investment 21ka2 vs 35k sanis

[solemn marsh]

Biscuit buff support unit like Dorothy, ASS.

[astral rose]

My biscuit is is like 4-5-5
A2 is 1-5-5 with lvl0 abno gear. I dont have resources to lvl her gear

[sleek trellis]

her 1 is the most important skill tho

giga AoE to hit all trash mobs at once

[solemn marsh]

I think it's fine if Dorothy and ASS having high damage in that comp, but damn. Can't even beat Biscuit huh?

[flat tapir]

bricking

[granite lynx]

My A2 has 44% hitrate!

[flat tapir]

Sleeping on Biscuit

[wide gorge]

biscuit is underrated

she's very good

[flat tapir]

Shame our good doggo benched for this UR

[solemn marsh]

Didn't know she can deal decent damage

[timid crystal]

those projectile better have homing missile capability then lol

[astral rose]

Core 3 Anis 4 ol 10 skills vs lb 0 155 A2
Truly a fair comparison

[granite lynx]

Who the fuck is healing A2

[sleek trellis]

something to note is because of how a circle's area works, increasing radius increases the area faster.

[flat tapir]

Jesus

[next cypress]

Shooting range

[reef plover]

kamisama

thats who

[granite lynx]

Yeah about half

[sleek trellis]

at max rank, A2's skill 1 more than doubles the radius of her AoE of her rockets, so it has quadruple the area from her regular explosions.

can literally cover the screen with explosions

[astral rose]

Biscuit heals on S1 after full burst. But i saw how fast that hp bar went down and went "oh thats not enough" but i dont got Summer mary

[granite lynx]

You dont need that much but level 5 isnt enough to hit everyone in arena

[sleek trellis]

i was just using level 10 cuz it's the easiest to point out how increasing radius has even bigger implications for area

cuz it's literally just double radius -> quadruple area.