#[2B] New Unit Megathread

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abstract hazel
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I only need one more body to get past my 160 wall 🧱 so close I can taste it.

jade sluice
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U dont have dorothy or liter do you

abstract hazel
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I have neither

jade sluice
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Ye

worthy cedar
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between these 2? easily novel

clear forge
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Let me boy cook with his frima

worthy cedar
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novel is more universal

abstract hazel
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I didn't roll for Dorothy back when she was banner

jade sluice
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Cook him something that can pass chap16 boss

worthy cedar
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free fat damage taken debuff once she stacks

jade sluice
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So he can do SI

hollow hull
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what are skill level priority for 2B?

clear forge
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Code is already camping that channel

worthy cedar
jade sluice
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U hear the man @abstract hazel time to step up

worthy cedar
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how do I cook with frima NovelThink

balmy prawn
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Think of boobpower

abstract hazel
clear forge
clear forge
sweet socket
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Wait so is she still a better than scarlet unit

hollow hull
clear forge
jade sluice
clear forge
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Cuz 2 scaling is mid? Idfk

balmy prawn
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What if we all said 2B is T0 and drive Momo insane?

clear forge
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I used her on gd and she did some ok damage, wait lemme rerun and ss damage sheet this time

balmy prawn
hollow hull
worthy cedar
clear forge
hollow hull
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I let Idoll hold on these bad bois xD

solemn jacinth
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is that really what he said

hollow hull
jade sluice
sweet socket
clear forge
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Maybe he gave reasons too

worthy cedar
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I didn't follow the whole thing cause I wasn't here the whole time

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but he has like 6/10/4? or some shit on his 2B

clear forge
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Hmm is S2 higher because it's increasing atk based on final hp?

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Is S1 scaling shit as well

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Lemme see

solemn jacinth
elder geyser
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eh no, but you have to burst 5 time to reach full pottential of S1

worthy cedar
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5/10/5 is what he has apparently

versed adder
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Long fights like We will generally last long enough to burst 5 times

worthy cedar
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he regrets getting ASS burst to 9 wahahaha

elder geyser
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so S2 = burst > S1

versed adder
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Or until you die

clear forge
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Hmm it feels fine

I'll just say B > 1 = 2

jade sluice
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Dont let him upgrade his burst to 10 otherwise he will simp the fk out of 2b over scar on a full hp up comp again

clear forge
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Let him cook

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2b mast jackal biscuit frima

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High buff 2b

smoky harbor
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All lvl 0 btw on 2b

jade sluice
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Dont feel that sanis vibe in 2b

smoky harbor
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Lets see if dev kind enough giving skill reset token

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ill try cooking her again

tender drum
clear forge
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4/4/5 no OL noir Vs ol stacked units
Scar is 10/7/8 so I think I might need to buff this hoe firs5

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Also I don't think I ever got to full stacks

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Maybe I did on the last burst

jade sluice
clear forge
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Feels fine as fuck

worthy cedar
smoky harbor
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Yeah should raise her more for valid comparison

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But back then all 0 0 0 anis do better damage

jade sluice
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now i raise my bar

clear forge
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The only way to compare validly at this point is to reach a boss in hard mode

worthy cedar
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I'm stuck at train does that work wahahaha

smoky harbor
jade sluice
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no, do a tower boss

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without mobs

gusty hull
clear forge
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Was just trying to check how much selfbuffs buff her

echo stone
clear forge
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Has anyone tried using her with alicu

clear forge
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Oh wait that a2

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Nvm

tender drum
jade sluice
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but i need to get my chest and other piece with HP up lv5 and her skill all 10 first

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to match with sanis

elder geyser
tender drum
jade sluice
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2b is pretty close to sanis in this comp, in this GD

glossy parcel
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2b prob like alice need maximum investment

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then will be good

smoky harbor
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No one raise frima though

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I know someone who have noise with bigger attack than his alice though

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But sadly get bored alr

echo stone
gusty hull
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bastion

smoky harbor
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Lets see whales video in next week then

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Then we decide pull 2b or not

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Sacrifice is needed for the common prosperities

gusty hull
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pulling 2b for meta
LMAO
if you don't have the butt queen in your buttgame's account you're bricked period

echo stone
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Yeah ik but does it help increase dmg much I have Bastion at lv.7 but I'm outside so I can't access my pc rn...

jade sluice
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with max investment, prolly can ditch out few more ml

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but didnt expect much

smoky harbor
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The damage speak for itself

spark veldt
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What is 2b skill priority?

smoky harbor
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But not saying she is bad though

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Better than random dps

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But questionable for top tier dps

jade sluice
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very

glossy parcel
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Dam i shoulda just got 1 copy

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i did mlb

tender drum
jade sluice
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oh nonono PepeLaugh

tender drum
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You played yourself

glossy parcel
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She might scale really strong in SR with lv 400

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thats a lotta HP

jade sluice
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wait 2b is FIRE

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maybe she can help with with Train

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weeeeeee

smoky harbor
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Like u play nikke but ur lobby is nier

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Peeps think u play nier on phone

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Very suspicious

glossy parcel
spark veldt
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Is there already a guide for 2b skill priority?

smoky harbor
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Let whales top up first

spark veldt
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Just asking

smoky harbor
spark veldt
hollow hull
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Shooting range, 2B's skills are lv 6, manu gears (no OL)

clear forge
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If anyone wants a quick answer for right now, I suppose it would be

hollow hull
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that my scarlet max on everything except Burst (lv 7)

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so yeah, 2B only peak after 5 burst cycles

urban spindle
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do you guys think 2b requires a specific team or is she flexible to splash into any team?

clear forge
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Should I pull 2B or not?

Yes. F2p should try and get one copy.
Low spenders should perhaps try and MLB her. She has decent damage output and the ass for it.

Is she good? // Reasoning for why you should pull

2B is a DPS. Not much else about her. The defender title is as misleading as Dorothy's support title.
She is... Good. But that does not mean that by any means is she highly meta defining.
She beats out almost all of the roster in damage dealt except for the top cream which includes Alice, modernia, guillotine and a couple more..
So she definitely has her spot in solo raid, and situationally she will have her moment in union raids as well.

gusty hull
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she never should have any ramp-ups in the first place, ramps are bad baaaad

jade sluice
gusty hull
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if she doesn't have ramps, she should be at the top tbh

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just because she eats up niche supporters

urban spindle
gusty hull
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any nikkes that buff her hp

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noise/mast comes to mind

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as well as frimmers

urban spindle
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ah so unless i have hp buffers invested i shouldn't use her over scar/modernia?

smoky harbor
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The problem with that hp buffer is

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Dont have burst cd reduction

urban spindle
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she seems very demanding

jade sluice
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expensive side chick

gusty hull
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if you want her to twerk you need to pay for it BlancStare

clear forge
smoky harbor
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Which is can be solved if in the future dev decided to make supporters with like: buff max hp, give %atk to most max hp, and cd reduct sth

jade sluice
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something like Biscuit

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game changing for support

smoky harbor
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In case that happen then her deck become viable

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Like yolo tank all go kaboom

formal spire
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Who good with 2b?

jade sluice
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me

clear forge
formal spire
formal spire
smoky harbor
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Back then noise is like queen of pvp

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I even +7 her for pvp purposes

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Should +7 Alice instead

jade sluice
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diving too deep in cope ocean

elder geyser
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when ppl consider of using frima with 2b, i already know it's full of copium

echo stone
smoky harbor
elder geyser
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ngl, i had to reread frima skill

jade sluice
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remember what the first dev note of this year said?

smoky harbor
jade sluice
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we will try to make less used nikkes usable

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they are doing it

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they bring frima back up

elder geyser
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without any adjustment to her skill businessCry

smoky harbor
hollow hull
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because any healer can buff 2B...

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Healers have buff Max HP, not as strong as Mast

jade sluice
hollow hull
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also against some bosses, you need a healer for team

formal spire
hollow hull
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2b skills level 7/10/8 and scarlet are 10/7/9

elder geyser
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can u link the thread?

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i wanna know what 2b skill lvls

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oh nvm

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i'm blind

hollow hull
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for cube, bastion is best on 2B AnisShrug

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2B use AR after all

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unless shift up release a cube that boost HP

smoky harbor
hollow hull
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Limit break bring 2% on each dupe

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it contribute little to NIKKE's stats

echo stone
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So basically 2B might be a good combo with A2 then? Since Some Max HP buff can heal and A2 need it too, more importantly she already have self buff NovelThink

hollow hull
smoky harbor
hollow hull
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A2 can deal more dps than 2B until 2B reach 5th burst cycle

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So for Arena, 2B is best at tanking and deal medium aoe dmg

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there is no way you can reach peak performance on her in Arena BoltKek

smoky harbor
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Idk but i think about a2 is like burst once, then sit in the corner never need to burst again since her burst up all time as long u keep healing

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So will be diff from 2b team for sure

jade sluice
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really need more low-mid range accounts to see their runs

hollow hull
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OLs Scarlet definitely beat 2B, but for a defender, 2B is wow

tender drum
jade sluice
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ye ye i think the guy has valid point

hollow hull
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i cant complaint on that dps xD

jade sluice
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maybe we look at 2b as end game player, but what if 2b actually good for new player

outer leaf
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i hear volume is good for 2b instead of liter since atk buff on her isnt the greatest yeah?

elder geyser
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no, volume is there just for cdr

hollow hull
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for 2B's OLs stats, well anything is fine, priority Ammo > atk > element atk

elder geyser
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if you have to choose between liter and volume

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you still choose liter

outer leaf
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doesnt volume grant crit rate?

hollow hull
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well, not in a quick match

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that the only category she is weak at

jade sluice
hollow hull
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while Volume fit only a few team, i can count it on my hand

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not to mention, Liter rebuild cover just so good

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it's fine for you to use Liter with 2B

elder geyser
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does 2b benefit a lot from crit rate?

hollow hull
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unless you want to goes berserk on 2B main team

outer leaf
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its cuz 2b doesnt benefit a lot from atk%

elder geyser
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i mean we already know %atk to 2b already cause a huge diminishing return

echo stone
hollow hull
abstract hazel
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cool down reduction

hollow hull
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Volume buff both crit rate and dmg

elder geyser
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but is crit rate/dmg actually worth to invest ?

raw snow
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No

hollow hull
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^

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niche stats yeah

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again, if you want to make 2B into a beast, you can build Volume

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other than that, no

outer leaf
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doing math on my 2b, at max skill lvl she is hitting 8058.75 dmg per pullet

gaunt tapir
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has anybody tested yet 2B with quency?

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I dont have Mast

real egret
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just pull mast, 4head

gaunt tapir
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sounds easy, I'll get on it boss

hollow hull
jade sluice
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with Volume, ayoooo 2b has hope

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fk Liter slam Volume

outer leaf
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thats what im saying :D

elder geyser
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what's your volume skill lvls ?

hollow hull
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noise buff last 10s, provide better dps than Quency, not to mention tanking and healing

elder geyser
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1/1/1 ?

hollow hull
jade sluice
outer leaf
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as a non-scarlet haver 2b is a very nice edition

hollow hull
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not so much on NIKKE that do beeg atk

real egret
gaunt tapir
outer leaf
hollow hull
jade sluice
real egret
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scarlet has 115% self atk buff already

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so liter's +66% is of less value(diminishing return)

elder geyser
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bro, do we have better option than liter

jade sluice
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hmmm okie

smoky harbor
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run doro with scarlet

elder geyser
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i mean, do we have a burst 1 nikke whom give dmg buff or dmg debuff?

hollow hull
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So here is the best team build for 2B: Volume/Mast/2B/S Anis/Scarlet
S Anis and Scarlet can switch burst, S Anis buff both Mast and Scarlet

worthy cedar
outer leaf
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whos burst hits harder, 2b or scarlet?

real egret
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in an ideal world, you wanna run liter with alice/modernia/snow white who doesn't have lots of innate self-atk buff.

smoky harbor
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Thats imo though

outer leaf
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and what if we dont have scarlet

hollow hull
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you don't need privaty anymore at that point

smoky harbor
hollow hull
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well, the team is focus on 2B mainly xD

outer leaf
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my thoughts on a team rn is volume/mast/2b/s anis/novel

smoky harbor
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And fyi s anis bullet will be 2/2 if she dont burst if u use privati

smoky harbor
jade sluice
# tender drum

how is your modernia looks like? the CP gap here is very large

real egret
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why's noone cooking jackal with 2b

jade sluice
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remind me of that man Dier... with a huge ass gap

elder geyser
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we already cook, but that means no cdr on that team

jade sluice
tender drum
proven mason
tender drum
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but that means modernia burst PU_PeepoDeadShrug

jade sluice
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time to find a lower acc, u are decked out to the teeth already

tender drum
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you already pay as the outlier for max 7

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im just mlb f2p baby

smoky harbor
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Gimme skill reset coupon so i can reset my 10/10/10 sugar

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And then we talk about 2b

smoky harbor
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Waifu

worthy cedar
smoky harbor
hollow hull
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Actually, Sugar B2 or 1 would be hella broken

real egret
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lol get scammed

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due to fps bug, sugar's burst after level 3-4 does nothing

smoky harbor
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Eh sugar actually not that bad

real egret
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(the attack speed buff that is)

smoky harbor
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But well she got like overpowered alr

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Not even top tier

jade sluice
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what are with these SG enthusiast , man i saw a decked out Viper, now this man Sugar, cmon guy hit rate top tier buffer wont come out soon™️ pepePoint

elder geyser
smoky harbor
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Ermmm my defense was i was carrying guild raid b4

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Viable option for team 3 is sg back then

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Like have heal do decent damage

echo stone
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If we want 2B to be acceptable we need another burst 3 dps that scale with HP too right? Cuz rn it seems like other supp unit that buff her just make another dps in the team got weaker. Like Scarlet for example

jade sluice
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there is a reason u still keep her 10/10/10

smoky harbor
smoky harbor
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And now sg team have sexy pepper ass

worthy cedar
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but pepper sucks in a SG team with noir or sugar kekw

smoky harbor
jade sluice
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SU u hear, there is no better time to make more money, release hitrate buffer now

smoky harbor
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Else ur team die

worthy cedar
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true

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modernia UR back then wahahaha

smoky harbor
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My +7 modernia was sitting in shelf nowadays

elder geyser
smoky harbor
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Like on team 5 alr for solo raid

elder geyser
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it makes me remember the time when ppl kept shitting on HP/def stat on artifact in genshin

manic lotus
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question: which burst 3 unit did you guys choose to be paired with 2B?

real egret
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Cocoa on Nihil raid Bedge

jade sluice
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imma run campaign with modernia+2b, so leave those scarletless more cope

tender drum
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just throw your ideal 2b comps and wait for the results

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he already went the extra mile

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Clueless might as well use him

smoky harbor
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Tbf just put her on any not so well build team for now

elder geyser
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the thing is i have no idea and dont know who should i draft

smoky harbor
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She is questionable but surely 2b will be use on team 4 or 5 of solo raid

real egret
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jackal shelm 2b +2 dps against electric boss
jackal novel/mast 2b sakura +1 dps against wind boss

HECOOKED

jade sluice
hollow hull
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2B is really a weird NIKKE, a defender that deals dmg equal to top dmg dealer, benefits from critical, OLs stats be anything but must upgrade Helmet and Body gears to get most of HP.
Stonk in any content except a quick match.

worthy cedar
tender drum
hollow hull
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that a priority upgrade gears for 2B: Helmet and Body xD

real egret
tender drum
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you see black screen you see doom

smoky harbor
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Why buy custom skin while the free no skirt one is sexier

outer leaf
hollow hull
jade sluice
worthy cedar
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LOL

jade sluice
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need those 10 tickets from that

outer leaf
hollow hull
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60$ is not worth on the skin from my opinion

outer leaf
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and a new icon

jade sluice
hollow hull
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between your team and the stage

jade sluice
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just 130k

worthy cedar
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I mean it's hard mode so massive

jade sluice
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and this is easy stage

worthy cedar
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the reduction is honestly so ridiculous in hard mode BlancStare

jade sluice
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not even wall

echo stone
elder geyser
echo stone
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Idek what's this guy saying cuz I see no b hole lol

worthy cedar
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clearing stages with like 60% or more reduction BlancStare

jade sluice
elder geyser
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2b burst to single target

outer leaf
hollow hull
outer leaf
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not even yoko taro will confirm

elder geyser
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i mean 3k%

hollow hull
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not a hole

elder geyser
jade sluice
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i think its just noise problem here for me there and 2b not maxed out burst

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liter scar can cut it

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noise 2b, no

outer leaf
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bruh what OL gear does she want?

jade sluice
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maybe maxed out noise , but that takes this too far

outer leaf
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crit rate drit dmg max ammo?

hollow hull
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anything is fine: max ammo, element, atk, crit

jade sluice
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yeah just 4 rocks

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dont waste more

hollow hull
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2B is in a weird spot i knows

jade sluice
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those rocks make huge difference on other metas

outer leaf
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well

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2 rocks turned to charge speed and dmg

elder geyser
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idk charge speed on noise is consider bricked or what

tender drum
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aight hop in

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testing starting

elder geyser
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sometime in pvp, opponents just keep hitting my noise and ignore noah

hollow hull
# outer leaf well

about crit stats on OLs: chance is shit, highest around 7%, while dmg is slightly better

jade sluice
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ok guys he milking us with ads

hollow hull
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so it's not justify to focus on crit rate for 2B

outer leaf
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kk

hollow hull
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Volume buff crit rate higher than that, meaning 2B only benefit when the buff is high

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so yeah, max ammo to procs more s2, elemental dmg is best BUT niche, atk is nice

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just wait until Shift Up add max HP into OL's stats BoltKek

elder geyser
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i dont think so, base hp scale really well at high lvl

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any %hp from OL gear will inflate HP so hard

worthy cedar
hollow hull
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^

elder geyser
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wdym isn't a thing ?

worthy cedar
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it's not a stat you can roll at all

jade sluice
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i want to talk about it so much but its old leak so nvm pepePoint

worthy cedar
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are you even at endgame kekw

hollow hull
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I mean stat roll...

elder geyser
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no

hollow hull
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not base stats of manu gears

clear forge
elder geyser
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i wanna say, shiftup most likely not add those stat into OL gear

worthy cedar
elder geyser
jade sluice
worthy cedar
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deep sea creatures I've never seen in my own bracket luckily wahahaha

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but there is always that 1-2 whales that sit at the god dam top wasting slots BlancStare

clear forge
jade sluice
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for campaign man

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i think just run 2b with meta units

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2b clutch if u time well into suriviving Elites (1-2 some stages)

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that 4.7ml is crit damage right?

clear forge
jade sluice
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yeah

clear forge
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Which got crit

jade sluice
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waste of effort to tryhard noise mast for campaign,

clear forge
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Since her burst hits highest hp, she'll probably always land the high hit on the boss targets

jade sluice
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thats only 720% right

lost delta
jade sluice
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but in stage like boss spawn and mobs spawn heavily

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gonna be very tough

lost delta
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Can I see the log?

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The comparison in stage

clear forge
jade sluice
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dps ?

lost delta
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Yea, dps

jade sluice
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i didnt screenshot it, but her damage is low to modernia, obviously

lost delta
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Did you overload 2b?

jade sluice
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yea

lost delta
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So, she is mid in stages

jade sluice
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let me find an easy stage, cuz i have a wall here and they will fail

lost delta
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Maybe in boss fight could be better

jade sluice
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dude i just went in walled stage and Liter die in 4 seconds

real egret
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she is meant for boss fights, you need 5 burst cycles for her to reach max hp

jade sluice
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welp i cant test 2b in campaign anymore, prolly stuck at this wall until i bring out rabbitty

spark veldt
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Skill 2 lvl 10?

jade sluice
spark veldt
jade sluice
spark veldt
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Hmmm, i don't have mast

jade sluice
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dont worry

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u only use noise mast combo in SR

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use meta units

echo stone
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For 2B team for SR raid and Union raid? Does Noise and Mast, Volume skill have to be highly invested? Or only 5-5-5 on each is fine??

jade sluice
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u need to focus on meta units

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leave them at 4 or 7

abstract hazel
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I cleared 16-28 with Rei / Centi / 2B / Scarlet / Noise 160Issue

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Second attempt.

echo stone
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Ok I'll just leave them at 5-5-5 then wahahaha

jade sluice
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16-28 Clear by @abstract hazel 160 Wall resident, the Daddy of Rei, the mad man, first of his kind, if u new player cmon man, watch this

echo stone
grizzled kraken
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she does

echo stone
# grizzled kraken she does

I thought we have to like... 7-7-7 all the 3 and 10-10-10 (I'm fine with this but if I have to highly invest in those 3 sup then I'm out Doropression )

jade sluice
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@clear forge i think 2b is valid here for campaign as new player, she can clear mobs well here, absolute no invest kekw man

grizzled kraken
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im 7/7/7 rn

worthy cedar
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I can't see shit half the time in that video wahahaha

grizzled kraken
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if there is a team comp that could make her do insane damage imma 101010

clear forge
grizzled kraken
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volume mast carry hard

jade sluice
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thats why i said we need to see how low invest acc does with 2b here man

clear forge
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6/6/6 2b

echo stone
grizzled kraken
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nope

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4/6/4, 5/5/5

clear forge
clear forge
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And he's clearing ch16 rn with relative ease

jade sluice
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thats him in the clip

clear forge
worthy cedar
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yeah ngl that was a good run thumbsupanis

abstract hazel
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I did it fellas

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2B is viable

grizzled kraken
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why rei

echo stone
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I have Gui so this seems interesting to me but then SAnis will be left out and buff no one MaxwellDepressed

jade sluice
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REI IS VIABLE TOO

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i can justify my c7 rei now PepeLaugh

abstract hazel
clear forge
worthy cedar
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Rei can taunt so the question really is how tanky/well she does for lower level accounts

clear forge
worthy cedar
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cause I can say for sure BS SR was a bad way to test Rei's taunt wahahaha

abstract hazel
#

2B Jank is viable

clear forge
#

@jade sluice remember that no pull dude

I've used Rei a lot on that account bro

#

She's pretty decent

jade sluice
abstract hazel
#

The Community came together for this one

clear forge
#

I ain't do nothing bro 😭

abstract hazel
clear forge
#

It was code

elder geyser
#

where did you get her extra body part from?

jade sluice
clear forge
elder geyser
#

alright

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thanks for honest anwers

worthy cedar
#

LMAOOOOOOO

compact olive
#

Goddamn..

clear forge
#

WHAT

abstract hazel
compact olive
#

This man is insane

worthy cedar
#

that commitment AnisSalute

clear forge
#

@jade sluice bro idk why you did that but respect bro 💯

Only nikke you can't technically core 7 with pulling so the best use of silver mileage is Rei

abstract hazel
#

Team REI

jade sluice
#

just cope they dont put scarlet and new stuffs in the shop

worthy cedar
#

I'm saving until I can core+7 someone or hope for more spare bodies to be added

fresh heron
#

sadly 2B is pretty mid and I have all 7 meta so I will take 1 copy and pass the skin

grizzled kraken
#

maybe next pilgrim buffs HP massive

#

copium

fresh heron
#

or

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buff modifier

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double basic attack for Defender

grizzled kraken
#

full burst current buff x2

fresh heron
#

imagine Modernia with double modifier

#

uninstall game

grizzled kraken
#

they need to add hp% on overload

fresh heron
#

but but we have def

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def...initely shit stat

real egret
#

it doesn't even work with mast' s1

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because mast s1 doesn't use final def

fresh heron
grizzled kraken
#

liter v volume

fresh heron
#

10% more for 2B, 9% less for Mod

grizzled kraken
#

2nd time with liter

echo stone
#

But you could be right tho cuz you know math and I don't know anything about the game mechanic lol

fresh heron
#

That's true

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dmg in shooting range is unstable that's fact

#

also Volume is shit if you compare the gain with liter, so the reduction may vary but it exists

winged verge
#

Only reason people have been testing with Volume is cuz of the assumption 2B won't be with Liter + Bunnies in raids

elder geyser
#

as a unit who already has a lot of atk, 2b ofc gain more from crit rate than %atk from liter

winged verge
#

It would be stranger if Volume could output higher numbers thanLiter

grizzled kraken
#

so OL with crit and crit damage?

#

and not att?

winged verge
#

OL ATK buffs are off of base attack, not final, so yeah, crit would be better

hollow hull
#

Hmm, do you think getting 2B to 2* worth?

#

increase bond level to 30 max

#

which give HP as well NovelThink

vague dawn
grizzled kraken
#

11117 base

vague dawn
#

Then 2B need a proper team build

#

She is still highly decent

#

I would suggest max hp team buff

#

No one tried it with quency

lost delta
#

Mast is a good mate for 2b

#

For me the problem here is reach her final dmg in skill 1

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Maybe in a proper boss

hollow hull
vague dawn
#

Yes

hollow hull
#

the other can carry themselves when skills are on high level

vague dawn
#

ASS she can do what she wants

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Better utilization

hollow hull
#

i'm tempting to get 2B to 3*, because bond level increase her HP as well xD

winged verge
#

Only need 2* for bond tho Xeniathink

worthy cedar
#

3* for 2B ass on your lobby

winged verge
#

All of those units need a proper team as much as 2B does

grizzled kraken
#

it takes too long to get to her skill 1 3 stack

winged verge
#

Technically 2B just needs CDR

#

Can't ignore that Liter provides ATK buffs, that Blanc provides Damage Taken Up debuffs and healing, that Noir provides ATK buffs, etc.

fresh heron
#

2B needs so many

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be like A2, just need 1 part

winged verge
#

2B arguably needs nothing Xeniathink

grizzled kraken
#

should have saved for a2

fresh heron
winged verge
#

She buffs her own HP a ton after her third burst

fresh heron
#

look at her glorious ass bro

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worth

winged verge
#

all of these SI tests aren't using that third burst

grizzled kraken
#

why did I do 50 extra after mlb just to core 2

fresh heron
#

look

#

at

#

her

#

ass

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bro

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forget the pain

winged verge
#

Except I hide it with the costume gacha skin

worthy cedar
#

costume actually shows a decent amount

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obviously not as much as free skin

#

but a good amount compared to many other nikkes kekw

winged verge
#

Sadly sadsimp

velvet snow
#

Free >>> gacha skin

fresh heron
winged verge
#

To each their own

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I'll never use the free skin. aSataniaMuhaha

echo stone
#

Grave digger only have 62m hp? I thought I choose the wrong boss lol

real egret
#

all SI bosses have 62m hp

winged verge
#

It's possible to have overkill damage tho

#

I've gotten 83m with SW before eh

real egret
#

SI is kinda bad testing for a unit that needs to ramp up since a lot of veterans are clearing SI in 1 minute or under

frank tinsel
#

Sky testing on nihilister tower 230

winged verge
#

Ah, it's tower 230? I was wondering which Nihilister fight it was

frank tinsel
#

Near full 3m fight sync lv395

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2B will out dmg scarlet in full boss fight

winged verge
#

Not surprising

frank tinsel
#

But key is support not overlapping so going to be UR staple

winged verge
#

She looked built for raids front the start

frank tinsel
#

I think we can finally put all the armchair discord theory crafters to rest

winged verge
#

Solo Raid bosses enjoying targeting the Nikke with the highest ATK seems like a role 2B's suited for, too

jade sluice
#

The man said it, time to pull max core now and sub

echo stone
real egret
#

and shooting range is only 1min30

winged verge
#

If S Anis shot far targets

#

all of her normal attack damage would vanish

#

AIs like to ignore their optimal range

echo stone
echo stone
winged verge
#

Oh wait, she dealt way more?

#

The way I read the above was that 2B was close to S Anis' damage

echo stone
#

This is really sad. they should've let 2A become HP base Attacker

jade sluice
#

Best testing ground is indeed the boss in tower, anywhere else seem to have other factor influencing the dps

echo stone
winged verge
#

Ah, gotcha

frank tinsel
#

You need a boss fight, you need 3 min

winged verge
#

That would be S Anis' multi-target capability in play as well, yeah

frank tinsel
#

We should have SR before 2B banner is gone

echo stone
#

Basically she need at least 5 rotation and a long fight? anywhere other than that she's bad?

winged verge
#

2B has a really bad normal attack ratio

winged verge
frank tinsel
#

It’s atrocious 5.99% multi

winged verge
#

Remember S Anis can outdamage Scarlet and Modernia in the right conditions

frank tinsel
#

But if it’s the same as 13% other non scarlet AR then it’s too much

winged verge
#

She's not the minimum standard for "good"

#

Yeah, I was hoping for 8%

frank tinsel
#

So devs really tested and kept it down

winged verge
#

As soon as I saw 90 bullet clip I new the ratio would be low

#

but it was lower than expected

green lotus
#

I was skimming but I didn't see if there were recommended skill levels yet for 2B? Any that hit diminishing returns at higher levels?

echo stone
frank tinsel
#

She’s hella expensive

green lotus
#

okayge PomieCry

#

I do it because she deserves it

winged verge
#

And outside of burst, she's still dealing 259.2% of her ATK

#

Meanwhile 2B is dealing scaling damage based on HP in her burst, but only 6% of her Defender ATK outside of it

#

In addition, S Anis can be given ATK OL subs to further increase her damage, while 2B won't benefit much from it

echo stone
winged verge
#

2B is honestly similar to Alice in that the bulk of her damage comes from when she's in burst; if said burst can't produce much damage, she's bad

winged verge
#

The more ammo they have, the lower the ratio will be

#

It's to balance damage

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Scarlet is the inverse

#

She has abnormally low max ammo (and a terrible reload), but her ratio is massive

jade sluice
winged verge
#

So 2B having 90 ammo, 150% more than normal AR characters, hinted at her having a lower ratio

winged verge
jade sluice
#

Or I understand it wrong

#

Ah ok

echo stone
jade sluice
#

Safe

winged verge
#

2B having higher ammo is a good thing because Max Ammo rolls and Bastion cube will help her DPS

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and it means less chance of reloading during her burst, causing damage loss

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(same for why Alice is often taken with bunnies + Bastion cube now)

echo stone
winged verge
#

Soline fires two SMGs

elder geyser
#

soline and also crow are dual smg

echo stone
#

oh

elder geyser
#

1 bullet deal 2 instance dmg

pallid violet
echo stone
# echo stone oh

never knew that I thought they were that weak because of basic multiplyer Doropression

winged verge
jade sluice
#

Oh oh

#

Sorry 5am here i need some sleep im tripping

hollow hull
winged verge
#

Not having to reload is better than fast reload

pallid violet
#

She has pretty low reload tbh so max ammo is not going to help her greatly, imo crit would probably be better and elemental damage

winged verge
#

Oh yeah, it won't be great help

hollow hull
#

Crit, elemental dmg, dmg, max ammo for 2B

winged verge
#

but it's still not terrible

#

and sky just discovered that 2B's S2 is a floor wipe kek

hollow hull
#

2B needs gear's base stats, the HP to become stonk

#

any OL is fine on her

winged verge
#

so more S2 procs means good against Blacksmith? kek

#

can clear bombs without using burst

hollow hull
#

crit is not recommend OL stat for 2B, because she need the buff to be big, not 7% at max level roll

winged verge
#

Element I think is probably best

#

but after that, akkoShrug

real egret
#

atk is okay-ish

#

can't go wrong with more atk

winged verge
#

Mhm

hollow hull
#

element is best but niche

winged verge
#

Noir actually proved quite cabable of buffing 2B for me

hollow hull
#

2B is not benefit greatly from OL, so why waste stone

hollow hull
#

give it to Alice, she eats that more

winged verge
#

including projectiles

pallid violet
#

Oh not bad

hollow hull
#

?

#

her burst doesn;t hit projectile

pallid violet
#

S2 not burst

winged verge
#

Not her burst

#

Her S2

hollow hull
#

oh ok

pallid violet
#

The 300 hit skill

winged verge
#

The 152.22% of final ATK

#

or w/e it is at level 10

hollow hull
#

that wow

winged verge
#

Won't do much to enemy mobs

#

but it'll pop projectiles

hollow hull
#

well, s2 is not for mobs anyway

#

you want her burst to wipe mobs

winged verge
#

He got this funny damage number doing that

hollow hull
#

"funny"

#

hahahaha

pallid violet
#

Man 395 level

real egret
#

nihilister tower 230

pallid violet
#

Im a good year or more away from that

dire locust
real egret
#

yes

winged verge
dire locust
#

im looking at the prydwen skill

winged verge
#

So any HP buffs on S Mary will actually make her burst more powerful, giving 2B even more HP

dire locust
#

looks funky wording

winged verge
#

Prydwen's is wrong iirc

dire locust
winged verge
#

I've always used nikke.gg cuz it has less mistakes deluchibi

dire locust
#

yea but @ember chasm is gay

winged verge
#

I though that Brid was an MG for the longest time cuz Prydwen listed her as one in the early days

hollow hull
#

...

#

that early days bruh

jade sluice
#

I cant even test run that team cuz other than 2b scar other 3 are hella pepega built

jade sluice
#

Die to a gun

dire locust
#

ass is so fat

#

no cap

winged verge
cyan quiver
jade sluice
latent hinge
#

We are simple people, we see cake, we smile

winged verge
#

cuz you don't know when a new unit or gamemode will come out that makes them relevant/meta

#

especially collabs, since they have a much lower chance of return

jade sluice
#

Wait Smary can outheal dragon?

winged verge
#

Yes

#

S Mary has very powerful healing

jade sluice
#

Notes

winged verge
#

...as long as you get to third burst

#

I think her third burst healing is the best in the game

#

iirc

dire locust
#

@winged verge skill prio on 2b?

#

i assume its s2 over s1?

winged verge
#

ye

dire locust
#

and then 10 10 10 at the end?

winged verge
#

That's what everyone's saying, yeah

dire locust
#

gonna take a 2months to finish this char deadge

winged verge
#

When I mathed it out myself, the S2 provided about 2x effective ATK over the S1 assuming the other was at level 1 (when 2B is level 400)

#

So probably actually best to level at a 1:2 ratio

#

(S2 to 7, S1 to 4, S2 to 9, S1 to 7, S2 to 10, S1 to 10 would be a good approach imo)

smoky harbor
#

What did i missed eh

#

So now she is good or nay?

winged verge
#

She's been good from the start kek

dire locust
#

every hour that passes

#

more independent testers are coming to the same conclusion

#

pretty good

winged verge
#

Though if you didn't pull for S Mary, RIP

dire locust
#

she gets bonus points for unironically having the fattest naked ass in the game

abstract hazel
#

I couldn't pull any of the summer girls.

jade sluice
#

I cant level smary burst cuz 2b eating it

abstract hazel
#

2B's ass is legendary and has been for years.

winged verge
#

Looks like Frima is about an equal alternative to S Mary

smoky harbor
#

Idk why peeps put scarlet on healing team and based the expectation on that

winged verge
#

for giving 2B damage

smoky harbor
winged verge
#

You'll just lose out on as much healing

dire locust
#

yea but frima is ass

#

so why run her over s mary

winged verge
#

If you don't own S Mary

abstract hazel
#

Like me

dire locust
#

not owning s. mary in 2023

winged verge
#

Quite a few people skipped the first round of limited summer units

dire locust
#

losers

winged verge
#

People got salty about her only providing water damage and spread that she's a skip

#

ignoring her massive healing potency

abstract hazel
#

She had something else massive going for her

compact olive
abstract hazel
#

That's also reason enough to pull

jade sluice
#

Prolly one of the mod or maids here

#

Root them out

winged verge
#

sky's using S Helm now

#

So it's a I-II-II-III-III build

#

rather than the I-I-II-III-III builds most people were making earlier

compact olive
#

I see. Shame I don't have Shelm. I hope Mast spooks me someday too.

compact olive
winged verge
#

Volume just gives crit deluthonk

#

She was also being used to level the playing field when comparing with Scarlet, too

glossy parcel
#

glad i got 1lb smary

#

i knew she was gonna be used eventually

winged verge
#

yuuup

ember chasm
compact olive
plush loom
#

what's the premier 2B comp rn?

abstract hazel
#

Frima, Dolla, Mast, Mary: Bay Goddess, Centi, Scarlet, Rei, all good options to pair with her.

merry yacht
#

Also Frima better

#

Tho that Smary may be 10/10/10

abstract hazel
#

Frima has good synergy with 2B

merry yacht
#

Which is > FRIMA 1/1/1

jade sluice
#

That smary cp tell me its just another @smoky harbor 2b kind of investment

merry yacht
#

No its just 5/5/5 or 4/4/4

#

With probably maxed body

#

Btw main OL line is crit and elemental

#

Elemental > Crit

jade sluice
#

Man swimming in rocks

merry yacht
#

Volume Mast 2B Scar Rapunzel is probably the most friendly comp.

#

Rapunzel gives max HP.

smoky harbor
#

Anyway ill do proper comparison when skill reset ticket is given

#

Ill put both on their best possible team setup

#

I threw all my resources for +7 s anis alr

pallid violet
echo stone
merry yacht
#

I vouch for Noise team

#

Plenty of heals for everyone

#

Can allow 2B to fucking tank the gravedigger in 3rd Phase TWICE

fluid lodge
#

oh wow

echo stone
gusty hull
#

soooo uh

#

it looks like 2b scales way waaaay harder on higher lvls/synchro

#

since HP scales much better than raw atk with levels

onyx crest
#

someone run the numbers at level 1575

winged verge
#

Yup, that's been assumed. delul

#

Empty wallet now for stronk DPS in two years aMiyanoWild

onyx crest
#

i'm afraid in 2 years we won't be talking about anybody we have rn lol

gusty hull
#

but SR locks your synchro to 400

winged verge
#

Yeah, 2B will be good for SR for sure

#

In general, the summary for if you should roll for 2B is:

  1. Do you like 2B?
  2. Do you care about solo raid?
#

If the answer to these questions is no, either Pokedex and then ignore or just skip

#

But honestly, that's the case for pretty much any Nikke until we get Nikkes with unique kit aspects that make them viable for combating CP like Scarlet's massive ATK steroids

#

Cuz aside from solo raids, the only real challenge in Nikke requiring new units would be CP-based activities (namely Hard Campaign & Tribe Towers)

mortal pebble
#

2b is such a pain in ass unit for dolphins/small whales

#

it's a unit that is neither broken (for easy decision MLB) or downright trash (easy decision to one copy for nikkedex)

#

its good, but not broken, and you are left in limbo whether you want to pull now, or potentially miss out if there's no future rerun

real egret
#

in the long run

#

just need to remember that they're going to release a unit every 2 weeks or so

#

so roster dilution is going to be a thing

mortal pebble
#

also there's always the risk of being powercreeped

real egret
#

in the not so long run, anniv is around the corner

#

yea that's part of roster dilution

#

so far the only content that requires a very robust roster is solo raid (with 25 units)

#

spvp and UR are kinda set in stone

winged verge
#

and then they start doing advanced union raids and Champion Arena which require five teams of Nikkes kek

mortal pebble
#

content expansion is also one thing

#

the only content that 2B is good at, is raid, because they last 3 mins long

real egret
#

it seems that a lot of people have given up on pvp, judging by how sweatier and sweatier every pvp shuffle has been for me

#

yes

#

for regular campaign/tower bossing

#

bunnies+alice would still be better

mortal pebble
#

when they introduce something that takes 5 mins, they might introduce something that powercreep her too

winged verge
#

If they make a sort of "survival" mode (similar to the mode in campaign/lost sector where you have to defend the wall on the right), 2B would be a queen at it

mortal pebble
#

2b has a very high fomo risk kek

winged verge
#

where the objective would be surviving as long as possible as enemies get harder and harder

real egret
#

as usual

#

80% of the nikke's capability is in first copy

winged verge
#

Yup yup

#

And only 2/3 is needed for max bond

#

Any more than that is lobby bg or whale fodder

mortal pebble
#

when you're already 2/3, might as well just use that golden tix for that one last copy for lobby

winged verge
#

My golden tickets are reserved for Pilgrim banners and that cursed 1% rate

dense hound
#
  • 5/10/6
  • OL3 except Body (All have ammo+ stats)
  • C7
  • Bastion Cube
    (Kinda bias, since this team using Noise which benefits 2B)
sharp vapor
winged verge
#

I'd rather spend money to get limited nikkes in the banners and build up more golden tickets aSataniaMuhaha

onyx crest
#

scarlet's like 'where are my buffs'

#

but it's a good comparison showing 2b doing well

mortal pebble
#

i mean, in my case i do have almost complete nikkedex except for christmas as i wasnt playing at the time

real egret
winged verge
#

Yeah, but Nier is special

#

(if you played the game)

mortal pebble
#

its nier

winged verge
#

Lobby BG + set collab music delulove2

real egret
#

yeah and then anniv comes around with a better BG+music

mortal pebble
#

like i swear, had they came out with the twins or kaine, that'd be a MLB, no question asked from me

onyx crest
#

how were ppl defending power when she was first released? same as 2b?

is meta in raids can be used in pvp pull if you want

sharp vapor
#

Nier isn't so special to me that I wanna be constantly reminded of it in my lobby.

onyx crest
#

will be powercrept later save for pilgrim etc

real egret
#

I skipped power, I didn't really miss it

#

power is super niche for pvp

winged verge
#

Power's been useful to me in solo raid. deluthonk

#

I actually regret not getting 2/3

outer leaf
winged verge
#

Volume/Mast

#

and get crit bonuses on OL gear

#

Although Jackal's looking to be good

dense hound
#

Her potential is locked behind highly investment.
40 sec fight and just lacking behind Scarlet for a short amount.

winged verge
#

cuz of the interaction with her burst and 2B's

dense hound
#

wait wtf, I though coop boss would be wind element to sell 2B. Why it's electric element WTFF

outer leaf
#

to sell S Helm obviouslly KEK

mortal pebble
#

there's one next week

#

no one said it cant be the boss to sell 2b

cedar gate
#

huh skyjlv running jackal with 2b hmm

gusty hull
#

frima can heal, has a 20s cd on B1 and she buffs max HP a lot

#

so why aren't people using her with 2b?

vivid loom
#

But Imma mess around for a while

gusty hull
#

can sub in a shotty, plenty of room

vivid loom
#

Prolly Guilty

#

gonna look through my Nikke pool

winged verge
#

S Mary is superior as long as one owns her

gusty hull
#

lemme cope, at least ASS, HAM and the buttqueen herself came home early

#

still having nightmares about my 200 pulls miss for modernia man

winged verge
#

I feel ya there