#[Anis: Sparkling Summer] New Unit Megathread

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digital delta
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I did the maths.

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Like legit, I have proof.

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  • Maiden gains 50% dps boost in non-Priv team, and Gui gets around 35% dps boost in non-Priv team. This assumes NO DAMAGE BONUS for Maiden and HAS CORE. The real-number DPS difference is very similar!
cyan peak
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idk if im wrong, i calculated bonus stats SAnis get if i get her up to LB3 its just a 2.7k atk gain counting lvl 30 affection
doesnt seem its worth it since only a bonus of 590 atk will be buffed for her skill 1 at lvl 10
this is assuming my synchro lvl is 212, thoughts on this?

hexed robin
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i assume max ammo OL is bad on this unit

devout lichen
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Extremely.

hexed robin
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lmao and i got a blue roll max ammo

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if only that went to scar

analog hearth
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you're not the only one, another was posted here a while back too

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desire sensor is ever hard at work

digital delta
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Ok, I watched his vid too:

  • The test is skewed depending on what the boss is, CP penalty, time taken, etc. Guillo's damage is exaggerated there because the fight was just 60-70s. Thank you for removing that useful information on your screenshot to give yourself an edge in this argument.
sullen abyss
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i really wisah sky showed teh nubmers if he repalced one of hte b3 dps with a healer, or healer dolla + standard dps

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but he was probably tired so respect

rancid saddle
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so it’s set right? pepper+dolla

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or pepper+shelm

torpid axle
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if you need a healer yeah I'd say pepper works best

rancid saddle
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if not? who can permataunt and survive a 3 min fight 20s b1/b2?

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sin?

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nero?

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nero without healer also doesn’t function

torpid axle
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I think you would only run nero if for some reason we had shit like blacksmith SR again

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in which case pepper/nero/ASS template would work very well

rancid saddle
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if you run nero, I’d rather doro as b1

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but yeah again, less heals

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and nero’s kit need healing

torpid axle
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but then nero just flops

rancid saddle
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doro sin uwucat

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I believe

torpid axle
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I actually wonder how well sin would work honestly

rancid saddle
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last bullet mechanic on sin and doro + priv

sullen abyss
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but w/o numbers, i feel thats just worse than playing the 3 dps units

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and healer + dolla

rancid saddle
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yea so pepper+dolla or doro+sin 🗿

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or doro+yuni

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but my god yuni’s lifesteal numbers suck ass

thick bear
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what are some good anis synergies

rancid saddle
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big one is privaty+scarlet

digital delta
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Helm is good

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Scar SAnis Helm might just work

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SAnis loses dmg tho

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Someone told me Helm is an independent multiplier

sullen abyss
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the quesiton is like

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is it worth having a b3 healer or does it drop dps

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vs having a b1 healer w/ dolla

kindred frigate
digital delta
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SAnis 10 10 5

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No attack OL

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3 elemental OL + 2 hitrate

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Scarlet no wipe rocks

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I want manu gear but I also want blue rocks

kind urchin
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Prydwen has released their review on summer anis!

digital delta
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For those who say Maiden is bad.

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Same time clearance.

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This allows your Priv to be used somewhere else.

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Though, if the boss is of Water type and you have lots of elemental OL on SAnis and Scarlet, don't use Maiden.

atomic jackal
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does maiden reduce ammo

digital delta
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She is just pure DPS.

atomic jackal
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ic

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it work good

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works

digital delta
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This is invested Maiden.

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With 2 attack OLs, 1 elemental OL, and 1 T9M.

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Against Modernia (fat boss).

digital delta
atomic jackal
digital delta
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This is lv 5 burst.

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2 ammo.

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@kind urchin

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Maiden isn't a troll choice.

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Not using Privaty means SAnis' damage ceiling can be increased.

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High Scar ammo count also doesn't benefit from Priv much.

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SAnis also doesn't benefit much.

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Guillo is simply bad due to missing heals.

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But if boss never attacks, Gui can be good too.

sullen abyss
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just waste all your resources into maiden

digital delta
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Never mind

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Maiden is better in Mast team

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Because Mast gives crit damage

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And Volume gives crit rate

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So Maiden becomes ulala for that 10s at 30s

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As SkyJlV said: Crit is underrated

rugged ferry
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this is theorycraft or actual test ? and with how much skill/gear/level

sullen abyss
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its testing from sky

rotund jolt
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These are fine and all until the boss fights backBlancStare

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Then all of a sudden first world problems

rotund jolt
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Quency is a interesting choice though B2 , granted Reset heavy

kind urchin
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Useless testing in my books BlancStare

rotund jolt
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But planning a team assuming you don't get hit kekw idk about that one

kind urchin
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Only actual takeaway is that guillo > scar

rotund jolt
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Yeah big truth there

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Assuming you can get Guiltione low health and keep her there, so you really need Noise too see consistent results, or very docile boss

rotund jolt
sullen abyss
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i legit do not understand not including teams with healers in teh calculations

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but for now sky was probalby tired os its fine

rancid saddle
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sky’s synchro is so high he can do a no healer team

hexed bison
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they also halved UR bosses' atk

sullen abyss
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thats irrelevant for sr though

loud pecan
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So what's the general consensus now for S.anis team

rotund jolt
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Continue

rotund jolt
# hexed bison they also halved UR bosses' atk

Tbh that doesn't mean anything for the teams calced , Someone like Scar and Guillotine without some form of sustain will die regardless, they already send themselves to brink of death on their own

hexed bison
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your cover?

rotund jolt
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Blacksmith legit one shot through everything kekw

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Mother whale aswell

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Harvester you could, but only if RNG favours you

hexed bison
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for train it's going to depend a little on how fast we can delete its parts

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no parts train = no dmg

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yeah god forbids you making comps for UR

candid dust
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HA

hexed bison
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i am most glad that this 'limited can't be good' bullshit is gone

rotund jolt
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And a few other bosses

candid dust
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Pvp AnisSmile

hexed bison
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i can't even test sanis cuz i'm nr1

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shit game

rotund jolt
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"unhealthy for game" 🤡

sullen abyss
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kisenix is probably the most dogmatic person writing guides lol

kind urchin
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Makima already exists

sullen abyss
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makima and power

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are both good

kind urchin
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Power

hexed bison
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are they outside of pvp

kind urchin
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Eh

rotund jolt
rotund jolt
sullen abyss
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but whenever you said that, people just go "seasonal"

kind urchin
hexed bison
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where is makima used outside of pvp

rotund jolt
kind urchin
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People just wanna cope

rotund jolt
sullen abyss
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annoying bosses, train

kind urchin
hexed bison
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in solo raid too?

rotund jolt
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Makima is goated for train and MW

sullen abyss
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chapter 11 boss was very annoying

kind urchin
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Ch8 boss too

rotund jolt
sullen abyss
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solo raid isn't the only content

hexed bison
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it's going to be fun seeing teams from now on

kind urchin
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Ch10 boss too

rotund jolt
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For the last 2 teams especially if you can't destory parts if you need a tank

sullen abyss
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mnakima definitely carried me for train until i could brute force it

rotund jolt
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Train is chapter 13 aswell iirc

sullen abyss
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also useful in motherwhale for some players

kind urchin
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Could never be me

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Power is mid

rotund jolt
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Legit the first actual "Free Train"

sullen abyss
kind urchin
sullen abyss
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i think shes not useless and outputs decent damage

rotund jolt
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Yeah Power is just fine

sullen abyss
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idk power performed well last ur for me

kind urchin
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She's ok (maybe?)

rotund jolt
kind urchin
hexed bison
sullen abyss
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yessir CatGoodJob

sullen abyss
hexed bison
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'raid only end game content that matters'

rotund jolt
kind urchin
rotund jolt
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At best you get one copy

kind urchin
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Wdym

rotund jolt
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Actually you right kekw

kind urchin
hexed bison
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upcoming train she could be used again

kind urchin
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I hope we can just DPS plow it like UR train was

rotund jolt
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Man If train is overbaked

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And we can't use Sakura anymore

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GGs

kind urchin
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Sakura we can't cuz

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Element

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Changes

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From wind

rotund jolt
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They scammed us so good

hexed bison
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yeah pulling in case of sr

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then this lol

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now it's never a reliable sell tactic again

rotund jolt
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kekwD is next on the chopping block

sullen abyss
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well tbf

rotund jolt
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Never pulling for SR again kekw

sullen abyss
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being able to consistenly clear si train is more important tha sr

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but yea sakura rough

hexed bison
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i have 0 issues with si train

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just nuke

sullen abyss
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yea you dont

rotund jolt
sullen abyss
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but for a long time people did, and people will

rotund jolt
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The hardest part of SR she doesn't help with

sullen abyss
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so something to help is good

rotund jolt
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Makima is the one who did that

hexed bison
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if you have noise you have a tank for it

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a dodge tank

sullen abyss
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yea but casual players dont dodge tank

kind urchin
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We can maybe use anchor to dodge as well

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Btw

sullen abyss
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and having ot learn to dodge tank for the majoirty of players is not actually fair

kind urchin
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Lol

hexed bison
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true

kind urchin
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Lets see

hexed bison
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anchor = train counter

kind urchin
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When is train in SI next

rotund jolt
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Anchor free train

rotund jolt
sullen abyss
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so i think characters lke sakura esxisting, is good even if its for a niche use cause si > sr

rotund jolt
kind urchin
sullen abyss
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gotta get those rocks

rotund jolt
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Anchor free train?!

hexed bison
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i could put anyone in noise's slot as long as it taunts haha

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don't even have to dodge because blanc makes the taunter immortal

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casual gameplay BiscuitHappy

acoustic kite
digital delta
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he gets content = views = money

digital delta
waxen venture
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EZ content, bait people with thumbnail and provide some numbers

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Doesn't have to be useful or informative

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Didn't say it's a bad thing but it's just a fact about behaviors of making content for gacha game kekw

digital delta
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Coop: context: 3 elemental OL 2 hitrate 0 attack

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10 10 5

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mf

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server issue

digital delta
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FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

pine tree
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how do you last so long against kraken?

rancid saddle
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pepper

red scarab
hexed bison
pine tree
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how do you manage to not fail the big qte with 2 shotguns

kind urchin
digital delta
digital delta
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with Priv

rancid saddle
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can ASS' s2 crit?

kind urchin
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It's like Doro S2 I believe

rancid saddle
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yea ok just checking

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I personally think scarlet is way more versatile than ASS

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core hits, crits

kind urchin
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Wdym personally

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Scarlet is simply better cuz not only is her DPS near anis. But also that she has AoE

kind urchin
rancid saddle
hazy leaf
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Is one copy of A:SS good enough? I'm trying to save resources for future pilgrims, but I heard that A:SS was pretty good
Her being limited is really messing with my FOMO

vestal sable
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Yes

thin tulip
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You’ll always be fine with one copy of anything

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Any extras will be for spenders

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Cores, max cores for huge whales etc

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Just being able to run specific comps is already a big diff/w

austere cliff
thin tulip
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Good luck

austere cliff
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20 pulls!

thin tulip
vestal sable
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Nice

red scarab
sharp garnet
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how much more damage does anis do at 1 star, 2 and MLB?

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i didnt get much luck and only got 1 in 140 pulls 😦

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but i have 130 pulls left and 550 golds i can use

digital delta
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Im sure

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Idk

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Wait

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Yep can crit

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If Mod can crit then yes it does

noble sun
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it crit

rancid saddle
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so crit rate is good ol line

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sure ele damage is nice against water

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but having those missiles crit even against non-water would be great

viral sun
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wonder how should i incorporate anis to my main squad

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scarlet still wins non-burst DPS by far
i still need modernia burst for non-boss waves
maxwell for quick bossing

sullen abyss
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just swap oiut max and sanis

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and do it on a stage by stage basis?

pine tree
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Maxwell ain't gonna do you any favors on non boss stages, just use sanis instead

torpid axle
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I mean assuming their scarlet and modernia have the 2 highest attack on the team maxwell S1 level 10 gives a massive 43.1% attack up during FB

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that's not nothing

frigid hemlock
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Hey guys, let's just say I'm only can afford SAnis LB0, does one or two copies of her, makes a significant difference here?

torpid axle
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Stop chasing for dupes if you can't afford to roll seriously

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if you can afford to roll or 🐳 then do it if you want

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if you can't stop trying to find excuses to do so

sullen abyss
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lb0 is perfectly fine

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dupes are a marginal increase in damage

rancid saddle
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so far seems like the only cp related content where ASS is good is pvp

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so base your lb decision on that

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I can afford mlb ASS and I care about pvp, so I mlb her

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might go for c1 or c2

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everybody busy cooking ur/sr teams that nobody bothered cooking her for regular/hard campaign

mild cipher
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I wonder how much of a good idea is not leveling her burst a lot and assume she's going to be with privaty all the time

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Would mean Alice loses privaty but anis kinda needs her more

rancid saddle
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nah you still need to level up her burst

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dropping from 2 ammo to 1 is a big deal

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it’s 100% increase in s2 dps

rotund jolt
prisma steppe
rancid saddle
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centi+priv+ASS+scarlet+liter has potential too

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but no point I guess since modernia exists

prisma steppe
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Twin bunnies can heal + damage amp

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2 good

sullen abyss
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and bunnies use liter

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the best b1 in the game

frigid hemlock
mild cipher
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but there's other units that need leveling

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lol

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I was doing novel right now and I think she was on 7 , idk if sanis takes priority

rancid saddle
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I'm in the same boat

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deciding between SW lvl 10 or ASS

mild cipher
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I mean Im all in for having busted units

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and tbh with her on 9 I would have like crazy dps for ur

rancid saddle
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might have to whale step up 4 pack auuughhh

verbal shuttle
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Anis skill 2 can't crit? I tried in shooting range many times and all the outcome are 44m goes down to 43.9 once but mostly 44.2-44.9m whereas Modernia and Guillotine dmg can increase and decrease by 10m or more due to Rapture grouping and crit

indigo gate
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This the most important pin in the thread tbh

red scarab
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i didn't see it anywhere

kind urchin
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You aren't zooming in the right place

indigo gate
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that's peak

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Also if I'm reading all this right, it seems like the optimal play is actually NOT to pair her with priv to maximize her S2 but rather to let her buff the strongest elec team possible?

verbal shuttle
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why is it so stable tho? is it because she's a shotgun user and that make it constant and harder to be unstable?

red scarab
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now i see it

rancid saddle
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guillo needs to stay low hp

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if you run a scar guill ass, can your scar and guill survive at 1 hp for 2 mins of a boss fight?

kind urchin
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If you're using scar with blanc noir then you can use guillo here

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Otherwise just run scar anis

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All good

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Well, tbf you can also run guillo anis with noise

rancid saddle
kind urchin
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Cuz you'll be running scar anis with healer

indigo gate
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I wonder if SAnis + Guillo makes Mast worth experimenting with again

hexed bison
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sure if you lack options and don't needa ny healing for the fight

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otherwise it is just better to use scarlet

indigo gate
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Ah yes "just use pilgrims" the magical universal teambuilding answer that always works

hexed bison
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yep that's how it is

verbal shuttle
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ruper is better than Dolla right? if I use Guillotine? cuz all the team use MG,Smg except Anis and that will make burst gauge charge very slow, I try rupee and my dmg goes beyond record (221m) (tested 3 try and it get around 210m-221m), while Dolla make can only goes up to 190m-200m
Both tested on 3 tries

hexed bison
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in that comp yes

verbal shuttle
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but if it is Scarlet then I should use Dolla?

hexed bison
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test this again but this time manually shoot instantly/fast with dolla

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so you build more burst during downtime

verbal shuttle
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close but still not as much as Rupee, tested 6 tries and at best is 212m (forgot to capture the overall dmg screen but I think it is this one) I think the reason is because she is not an attacker as rupee, so rupee do replace her in that part (both rupee and dollar are 5-5-5 while rupee have 3 copy but dolla don't, this could be the case too ig)

fossil rock
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is sAnis good at like 4-4-4?

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i dont want to invest her for now

rancid saddle
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well burst to 9 is important

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but if you don't want to, meh w/e

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there are people rushing to level her up for the upcoming solo raid

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on thursday

rancid saddle
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but then again, solo raid frame also got easier with 3%

rancid saddle
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s1 I think is a bit more valuable if you pair her with scarlet or other electric units

rancid saddle
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so I guess ASS is bad for tetra tower because bunnies are also in there

kindred frigate
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yeah but

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it's tower

runic dagger
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On GD, scarlet has inflated number because she hit minidrill

runic dagger
rancid saddle
runic dagger
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Burst gen

rancid saddle
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dorothy’s cdr could keep up?

runic dagger
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Yeah

rancid saddle
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oh it’s gd

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boss is always on screen

runic dagger
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Anis no cube, no good OL subs, 1 OL on glove, skill 766

digital delta
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The biggest benefit from SAnis isn't her Attack buff but rather the reload.

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The reload itself, on her own, is only good for Scarlet and SAnis but horrible for Guillotine.

lofty stream
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hm

digital delta
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But maxed reload speed, namely 109% (or 90%+ for MG and SG are okay), itself brings tons of DPS.

lofty stream
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I tried to remove Privaty debuff from outside of Sanis burst, so she has 55s at 1 ammo, 125s at 5 ammo and somehow she only loses 8% dmg

digital delta
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SAnis can't reach 90% reload speed without Priv in rotation 2.

lofty stream
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damn you

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for speaking truth

digital delta
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At 250% MG ammo, the DPS gain versus no reload is 25.2%.

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If you want the formula, then:

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[Max Ammo / (((Max Ammo - 47) / 60) + 2.55s + Reload Duration + 0.233s)] / 60 * 100%

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Let's try 1000 (assuming base * Bastion).

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[1000 / (((1000 - 47) / 60) + 2.55 + 2.5 + 0.233)] / 60 * 100%

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21.26% DPS LOSS!

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For Scarlet, it's a bit different:

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[Max Ammo / ((Max Ammo / 12) + Reload Duration + 0.233s)] / 12 * 100%

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Assuming Scar at 47 ammo, with Bastion:

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[66.74 / ((66.74 / 12) + 2.3 + 0.233)] / 12 * 100%

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That is 31.2% DPS LOSS!

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If you ever decide to remove Scarlet (47 ammo) from your SAnis team, you are bound to give her 31.2% DPS loss.

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Rephrasing it in another way, if you use Scarlet in your SAnis team grants her 45.34% DPS boost just from not reloading.

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But this is inflated.

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Why?

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Because no reload only applies to FULL BURST. She does reload 1-2x outside burst, unless you have like, 90+ ammo.

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How about Guillotine? She doesn't reload AT ALL, even outside burst.

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Thus, the 21.26% Guillotine earlier is unmistakable, but Scarlet's depends on burst regen.

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If you are using Scarlet, I generally advise manualing her and reload just before the end of the burst, same as Guillotine.

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Anyone who doesn't do this doesn't test properly.

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My general recommendation is:

  • If Guillotine can survive in this team without a healer but can't in other team, then run Guillotine here. Use Scarlet with crit setup instead: Volume Mast Helm for Team 4. This crit setup doesn't work for Gui because Helm heals.
lofty stream
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how do you calculate the loss though? 31.2% based on what?

is it the 100% - 66.74 / [(66.74/12)+ 2.3 + 0.233] / 12 * 100%? Assuming 100% is perfect situation where Scarlet doesn't reload at all, she reaches perfect frame by frame dmg

digital delta
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Free Gravedigger.

lofty stream
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that rando N102

digital delta
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Free Gravedigger v2.

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Scarlet damage is inflated due to core being impossible to hit, battle lasting 1 minute.

digital delta
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There isn't a better B1.

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Unless you want to use Jackal.

lofty stream
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hm yeah for supporting, nothing is better

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but for practical use, that spot is Doro

digital delta
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This is a realistic testing.

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Not one team DPS maximize test.

rancid saddle
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GD is also bad testing because GD doesn't do any damage

lofty stream
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wait doro in what team ngr

digital delta
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I don't have SW, but I'm not doing this for myself.

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Even Dorothy Poli Laplace MW B2 will do the job fine too, with less damage of course.

lofty stream
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why the hell Doro goes with SW and MW pthua

digital delta
digital delta
lofty stream
digital delta
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What's the non-logical thing about it?

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Doro is the best support for SW, canonically and gameplay wise.

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50%+ part damage combined with SW burst + 43% attack buff from Max + 40% from Poli.

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How is that not logical?

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If you don't have SW, even Laplace makes sense.

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If using Laplace, can use Novel instead.

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  • Healer in P5.
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Just don't overinvest in Dorothy that she steals Laplace/SW buff.

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SW is safe, but not Laplace.

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Two attack lines, and she steals Laplace if she is not OL-ed too.

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Guilty is safe, though.

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And allows you to run Doro Novel Guilty Max Helm.

lofty stream
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hm true, I always forget Doro gives parts dmg on last bullet

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in that case, can you put Miranda in that spot? Gotta feed Anis a lot of ATK though

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hm, Guillotine Scarlet always steal it

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damn thieves

digital delta
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For non-SW players, probably the best comp is:

Liter Blanc Alice Noir Mod
Doro Novel Guilty MW/Laplace Helm
Pepper/N102 Dolla SAnis Scar Priv
Volume Mast Maiden Guillotine Noise
Pepper/N102 SHelm Sugar Drake FLEX/Max
digital delta
rotund jolt
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Dorothy B1 CDR let's Novel be B2 which is a much stornger pairing than Miranda Dolla

digital delta
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Someone without Alice got top 100 in SEA last solo raid.

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And I feel like a nub.

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Minmaxing is super important.

rotund jolt
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And if your Maxwell is higher attack than SW which is normally the case thenwahahaha Miranda buff pepega

digital delta
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He ran Maxwell with Shotguns.

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And used SW in Liter Blanc.

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The minmax is fulfilled.

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Shotguns scale super well with Attack.

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And he knew it.

lofty stream
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scale well, not really super bro

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stop Sugarcoating your Maiden

digital delta
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Superwell.

lofty stream
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and I feel good for playing 2 puns at once peperain

digital delta
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All shotguns.

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Not Maiden.

lofty stream
digital delta
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Sugar +50% attack, means +55-60% more DPS.

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Scarlet +50% attack, means +23% more DPS.

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That's what scale well mean.

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Pepper Dolla Sugar Drake Maxwell is actually super goated.

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Though, you do can run Maxwell with Guilty and you'd be okay too.

lofty stream
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1 to 1.5 is 50%
100 to 123 is 23%.

But 123 vs 1.5 is the diff we are talking about. SG just doesn't worth the investment bro

digital delta
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Maxwell and Mod, etc.

lofty stream
digital delta
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I said minmax.

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Not invest.

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You are missing the point.

lofty stream
digital delta
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And I'm not sugarcoating Maiden.

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She's the BiS for that place near Guillotine.

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Because you need burst regen.

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Well, feel free to use Sugar or Drake.

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But I prefer they go Team 5.

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For minmaxing.

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Maiden occasional 150% critdamage goes up when Mast+Volume burst goes up.

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All shotguns are bad.

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It's just nothing replaces them, for now.

pine tree
#

sorry I haven't been following, are we talking about ASS in raid teams?

digital delta
pine tree
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ok

#

do we not run miranda in raid?

lofty stream
#

as long as you can manage your SW atk > maxwell

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then it's okay to run Miranda on SW team

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less stress too

pine tree
#

I currently run double bunny alice/mod
a scarlet/dorothy team <- planning to put ASS here
then an SW team
then whatever the heck and pray I don't get that far

digital delta
#

Dorothy better.

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Miranda has become obsolete.

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Faster burst = more damage, also Dorothy gives independent attack buff.

runic dagger
prisma steppe
indigo gate
ocean flint
#

does reload speed cube enough to replace Privaty ? my Scarlet isn't OL'd yet

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Dorothy, Novel, Scarlet, SAnis, Rapunzel/Noise would be a good team?

runic dagger
#

So Anis S1 + Priv S1 + Reload cube give 131.4% reload speed

digital delta
#

Thats because she herself has attack buffs.

digital delta
#

My Anis rn already has like 100%+ more elmental against Water.

runic dagger
#

To explain why, my Scarlet has pretty much cracked OL subs, meanwhile my SAnis

digital delta
#

She outdamages Scarlet 2x against last coop.

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Insane shit.

digital delta
#

1 hitrate is fine

runic dagger
#

Where my rock

digital delta
#

If its bonus stat

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Like elemental + hitrate

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mine is like

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3 elementals, 1 attack, 2 crit damage, 2 critrates, 1 hitrate

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iirc

indigo gate
digital delta
indigo gate
#

Does the attack stat have diminishing returns?

digital delta
#

yes

indigo gate
#

Huh. I thought attack was like the god stat and you just wanted to stack as much of it as possible PomieThink

digital delta
#

MG loves max ammo more

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Scar hates attack

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*Scar wants max ammo more

indigo gate
#

Because her stacking buff isn't "final" attack so it doesn't scale with OL bonus or ally buffs

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well I don't have scarlet anyway PomieSmug

hexed bison
#

we need an ammo reducing b2 20s cd character so we free up that b3 slot taken by priv

runic dagger
#

SAnis really picky

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Like if you use Liter, you are forced to use Privaty

runic dagger
#

Passive ammo reduction kekw

noble sun
#

Wait, we got skill reset. Time to reset privaty kekw

lofty stream
#

don't forget alice

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while you are at it

runic dagger
#

Literally showed only ol gear I have for SAnis

nimble hedge
runic dagger
nimble hedge
#

Ahh i see

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I did a run to see if sanis really murder scar, she actually did SadBlankey

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Sanis no atk% substat 3 OL vs 82ammo scar

nimble hedge
runic dagger
#

Vs today SI (Blacksmith)

rancid saddle
#

aside from burst9 what other breakpoints are there?

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burst7 should be 2 ammo without priv?

prisma steppe
#

Should be earlier

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b4 should already be 2 ammo

#

Yep b4 is already 2

torpid axle
#

It rounds down if under .5

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so burst 3 is enough for 2 ammo

rancid saddle
#

yea ok b9 can wait

#

sw b10 first

torpid axle
#

same BlancStare

kindred frigate
#

scarlet dumpsters ASS on blacksmith just because shotties are just doodoo for that boss

digital delta
#

Blacksmith is fire in intercept

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I feel scammed

runic dagger
#

🔥

rancid saddle
#

who said bs is water

#

cb is also fire?

kind urchin
#

Cb might be wind in intercept

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But he was fire in ur

pine tree
#

ASS team let me set a new record in union shooting range

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unfortunately, my ranking didn't change

sturdy dew
#

Anybody care to say what is THE ASS team? As far as I know ASS needs Privaty and you can’t have Liter in it. That’s how far my knowledge goes. thanks in advance.

runic dagger
#

And she can't be pair with Noir, Sugar

lucid shadow
#

i should stop after her burst lvl9 right? lvl10 kinda useless?

sturdy dew
runic dagger
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It's good as a campaign push comp if Liter

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If boss, you pick Dorothy

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Also, Centi there is for burst gen problem, that's all

sturdy dew
#

Well I’ve already cleared campaign. So Centi is a flex spot?

runic dagger
#

Yeah

sturdy dew
#

Dorothy, Scarlet, and Privatey are staples with Centi being flex. Any good units to switch Centi with?

hexed bison
#

switch depending on your encounter

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the usual b2 guilty/rupee/dolla

sturdy dew
#

Thanks, mate.

dusty pumice
#

Does Harran work with Anis?

hexed bison
#

it works yes

a bad part about the combo (and this is true for scarlet as well) is that b3 goes off before applying anis buff

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so anis buffs harran's snipe attacks but not her burst damage

runic dagger
#

Vs Modernia Ex

sage dirge
#

for campaign, how does new anis team compare with like...bunny team with scar/mod?

rancid saddle
#

bunnies+scar mod is still better

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because bunnies are way too cracked

rancid saddle
#

WHERE'S MY EXIA + ASS TEAM COOKING?

verbal shuttle
#

tbh my Alice are weaker than my Anis or Modernia with lower build cost.

#

this is Anis 9-10-9
3 overload with only 1 useful buff and that is hit rate 18%

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Alice 10-4-10
3 overload
Ammo cap 100.88%
Atk 25.57
Charge dmg 9%
Crit rate 4.35

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I think the different in power comes from Anis skill 9-10-9 while Alice 10-4-10 but only 1k+ power doesn't make that much different

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Alice 2 copy (2 stars) Anis 1 copy (1 stars)

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Both on full auto

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this is in a bunny team but the CP are too different so I don't think it can be compared

#

she could be stronger if I can do QS but I wouldn't waste my time on that cuz ti hard af MaxwellDepressed

digital delta
#

And also why are you still in Chapter 10 with that CP?

pine tree
#

hard mode? lazyness?

digital delta
#

Is he Literless

lusty pumice
#

should sans be used in tetra tower? since theres already the bunnies

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or just stick with Sugar

prisma steppe
#

bunnies are better tbh

verbal shuttle
# digital delta And also why are you still in Chapter 10 with that CP?

it's hard mode. should I be in higher stage??
Also this is in Chapter 9 hard stage iirc (forgot which of the 9 Chapter is this didn't screenshot it...) is it electric too?
I swap Modernia up in first burst on chapter 10 cuz there are many Rapture at the start of stage so modernia can clear it faster

verbal shuttle
prisma steppe
#

liter is a buffer, dorothy is more of a dps char

verbal shuttle
#

I do test it in shooting range and Dorothy do more, have not really calculate it on Campaign tho

prisma steppe
#

dorothy only or team overall damage?

verbal shuttle
verbal shuttle
prisma steppe
#

kinda hard to choose dorothy over liter on campaign seeing as dorothy's skill deal damage equally between all raptures (which you may not need once the boss appears)

verbal shuttle
verbal shuttle
#

both tested on the same stage, pause to capture the dmg when the boss have 1 hp bar left

Liter team 44,552,435m 34s
Dorothy 50,331,320m 33s
idk why the dmg is different when they're the same stage tho lol

verbal shuttle
#

Forgot to mention, dorothy have 3 lv.5 overload be while Liter only have 4 lv.1 manufacturer gears tho so they have some CP difference about 4k i think 🤔

#

(dorothy in team 203k while Liter 196,300+)

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I don't see any profit from overloading a support char that I don't even use in pvp ShiftySquish2 while Dorothy get a lot of profit from just overload and overload sub stat like atk% to increase her ult dmg

digital delta
#

Liter doesn't work cus she increases SAnis ammo.

verbal shuttle
#

idk the specific skill lv. requirement of anis to have this effect but I just tried it yesterday and find out that I she have the same ammo cap as when Dorothy in team

digital delta
#

With power 210k

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U should be in chapter 13 already

#

Hard mode

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Not 9

verbal shuttle
#

they both have 2 ammo left in rotation 2 thoBlancStare

#

maybe my Liter s1 skill is too low?

digital delta
#

I reached 12-9 at power 187k iirc

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So ure slow

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Very slow

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That's why

verbal shuttle
#

Oh I think I know why now, liter buff ammo only for 5 sec (which in this case is one megazine) so I didn't notice and thought it was a left over from the mag before and because the buff run out so she have 2 ammo left same as dorothy

#

mbMaxwellDepressed

river talon
river talon
#

Lol nah

thin tulip
#

Anyone else feel max core summer anis has been the most goated move ?

#

Think about it, she’s a limited unit, strong fourth team potential, scales high via atk

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I think it’s been the most worth so far

sturdy dew
sharp garnet
#

my 1 copy anis is doing just fine

#

😄

verbal shuttle
verbal shuttle
rocky bone
#

Max ammo gimps Sanis because the point is to brute force skill 2 right?

spark notch
#

...whatthefuckismylife?

#

I angry pulled the SAnis banner because of an argument.

#

I pulled her.

#

I don't know what to feel about this, please send help.

sterile citrus
spark notch
#

I was told that she wasn't.

prisma steppe
#

She's raid meta, not campaign meta

soft gate
#

Her and scarlet outdps’d my main team lmfao

#

On the raid

kind urchin
soft gate
#

Yeah very likely

west talon
rotund jolt
nimble hedge
#

Campaign anis monkaCrash

pine tree
#

oh hey i was doin that too

#

which stage?

nimble hedge
#

Somewhere in chap 14

#

There are shiet ton of rapture

pine tree
#

chapter 14 normal or chapter 14 hard?

torpid axle
hexed bison
torpid axle
pine tree
nimble hedge
digital delta
#

Wtf noir + anis

#

Disgusting

fleet prism
#

Hmm.. I'm one copy away from MLB Anis.. Should I pull for it?

pine tree
#

do you like BIG WAVE?

rancid saddle
fleet prism
#

Not so lucky, I spent $300 before getting her the 1st time..

lusty pumice
#

2LB -> MLB doesnt give bond lvls

#

so pretty meh dupe

nimble hedge
fleet prism
#

Alright, thanks for the advice.

nimble hedge
#

Its just trolling, she is not even key member for that kekw

fleet prism
#

Oh boy... They just announced Automata collab

#

Welp, gotta save those gems.

acoustic kite
kindred frigate
#

I got blessed with some good loot today

#

funny how she's supposed to be scarlet's pocket buffer but ended up being the first new hypercarry since modernia

#

using her with poli biscuit team, shit's so cash

nimble hedge
sweet plank
#

Mine ,run against chatterbox wahahaha wahahaha wahahaha

nimble hedge
#

So low wtf

hexed bison
#

Sanis bad

kind urchin
sharp garnet
#

should i pull for more summar anus?

#

sitting on about 150 pulls and 400 gold tickets

#

assuming i only want 1 of each nier unit im pretty safe right? unless its gonna be red hood right after

nimble hedge
sharp garnet
#

but i have 2 pity

nimble hedge
# sharp garnet but i have 2 pity

well those 2 for the collabs, the 150 pulls will turn into another pity soon for whatever after collab. Feels like throwing some for sanis

kind urchin
#

Unless you're super competitive or are very horny for anis

nimble hedge
#

worth it

sharp garnet
#

how does horny for anus mean more pulls?

kind urchin
#

Core 7 for simps flexing her everywhere

sweet plank
#

Mlb a fking support is just stupid like me

#

Max core is a support is mommies credit card

#

Because no one who earns money themselves would spend 20 grand on 1 support unit

nimble hedge
hexed bison
#

Godddaaaam

#

I would be sweating

noble sun
nimble hedge
#

Numbers dont lie, Pull now folks

sullen abyss
#

Dorothy bunnies is a bad team comp

nimble hedge
#

Thats casual methodology worry specific case it works

sullen abyss
#

if we're actually tyring to fairly compare teams, comps should be as optimal as possible

nimble hedge
#

Ye but if u see someone who use dorothy and bunnies together, he/she either newbie or trying to cook something

#

Same for sanis and bunnies

sharp garnet
#

I pulled and got the wrong anus

umbral bloom
nimble hedge
#

And most situation if u dont get the next burst soon enough, you will die or loose overall dps cuz cant get burst out

#

This is negated a bit by having Privaty on the left side of Noir

nimble hedge
#

But I have to pair them for a specific reason, of course it only result in 20% success rate

umbral bloom
#

I kinda feel like in that video's situation it's because they reload before their first mag is over but I get what you mean

#

they would have still had to wait a little even if they didn't

nimble hedge
#

Ye if u manual its would be like 3 second

#

Wow i did try this run for bs, sanis lost so much dps by not hitting all of her 10 pellets

#

So her normal shots matter alot too not only s2 worrygalaxy

#

Manual to get her to shoot better

rancid saddle
#

s2 is 380%'ish

#

but only on last bullet

#

so off burst, auto attacks > s2

nimble hedge
#

I thought her dps is purely from s2 thats why

#

I just realize this

sullen abyss
#

but the reason for this is that doro is doing a lot of damage

#

in terms of optimizing the dps for your other units, example scarlet + modernia they will do way more damage with liter than doro this is fairly easy to see

#

so the question then becomes, where would you put dorothy on a spread of teams (in the context of raiding and what not) so that all the dps units damage is being optimized

#

and the easy answer is dorothy + privaty which allows you to then run stuff like doro, novel, alice, maxwell, privaty

#

so while the doro bunny team does more damage liter bunny team, thats is solely because doro's personal damage is high

#

but its not the most optimal fit for her to run her with bunnies

noble sun
#

4-5 ammo messed with dorothy s1. Man that is not even milli seconds 4kSkull

torpid axle
#

added ammo and ammo refresh is a huge difference

noble sun
#

I never had burst stuck on cd when using that team

torpid axle
#

unless you're doing campaign that's a different story but you'll literally always hit 3~ secs of CD with dorothy on twin bunnies team on bosses

nimble hedge
#

Remember that SR blacksmith when people ran liter novel w Alice

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And Dorothy has to run w bunnies

#

Gotta keep a Privaty in to negate that shiet

torpid axle
umbral bloom
# torpid axle unless you're doing campaign that's a different story but you'll literally alway...

You can kinda of avoid that if you manually use Dorothy with Noir's refill to proc another last bullet. My Dorothy team and Liter team with bunnies/scar/mod both get their 3rd burst for SI blacksmith around 2:20 remaining, and both teams can activate 6th full burst in firing range, although the Dorothy team basically gets 0 uptime with it. It would probably be a different story if those teams were better at generating burst though.

umbral bloom
torpid axle
#

I don't why you're even comparing burst timings with Liter when she requires ramping up for her CDR in which case she'll end up bursting more than Dorothy with twin bunnies with a full 3min run.

#

When instead you should be comparing a Dorothy with twin bunnies versus without them and even another with privaty and see how much 3 sec CD builds up over 3 full min runs

nimble hedge
#

Rip Assless peps

umbral bloom
torpid axle
#

you can run mocks on union raids but honestly I don't see too much point in doing so

umbral bloom
#

Idk, probably just my cope that Dorothy/bunnies CDR isn't as bad as people think. I also kind of want to know how much I'm actually losing in one-team stuff when I don't have to split them, but most one team stuff isn't that relevant I guess.

nimble hedge
#

People dont think it bad, people admit it bad

#

We want dorothy able to burst when its her turn

#

Many case that due to that noir interaction, the burst chain fails and results in loss

#

Normal circumstances if dorothy able to empty her mag, still 2s cdr (not soo bad)

#

But then when the boss performs some jumping back or teleport

#

Dorothy cant empty her mag and may even go into reload

#

And of course we dont control dorothy to negate that

#

We control our dps to maximize damage, its a waste of dps to negate sth that we could have prevented

#

Taking example from the SR blacksmith, when he charging from the back, that moment with privaty in team, dorothy can barely pull it off

#

Or the Train SI while we are about to have second burst, 1s too late and the backtrain hit us

fleet prism
#

I just attacked lv. 8 first boss with Anis and Guilty. Dang she stole the momentum

digital delta
#

Cus thats not supposed to happen

#

Probably ur Doro is weak

#

Cus my 4OL Doro definitely had 2x my 2OL Guilty.

fleet prism
#

I'm just not very lucky with OL stats

verbal shuttle
# fleet prism

What's your Guilty Skill lv.? And what boss is that? Is it because the boss is weak to wind code?

fleet prism
#

That was the first boss on the Union raid

verbal shuttle
#

Mine are lv. 8-1-1 testing in shooting range but this is all she could doSignalCry

#

Is it because she's a SG and only work best against close-range/Solo Boss?

#

My Guillotine have 60k ATKBlancStare

#

Pravaty 2OL but only 51k and the rest are much lower (just to give you the idea of my team average atk)

#

BS testMaxwellDepressed

digital delta
#

man testing Guilty on shooting range

#

lmao

#

she cant hit all her shts

verbal shuttle
verbal shuttle
acoustic kite
#

I'd say shes perfect for GD

But for now I guess black Smith your best bet

sonic crypt
#

Chatterbox is fine too

#

but anyway it needs solo raid

wanton falcon
#

what cube do you give S.Anis again?

noble sun
#

Fast reload

wanton falcon
#

Finally

kind urchin
#

: 🎉

wanton falcon
#

Damn, level 9 Burst S.Anis just goes brr

#

I am guessing I could take her to triple 10?

#

Although that will take a really long time

#

but I am okay with it, since S.Anis my beloved AnisDelighted

kind urchin
#

But she's worth for now

wanton falcon
#

I mean I mainly use Anis anyhow because she is my favourite nikke, but the SSR version has made me convinced to exclusevly invest into her, since I have a Modernia and Scarlet for big deeps.

Also her level 9 burst shocks me as to how much damage she can deal in such a short amount of time.

#

Level 8 Burst feels completely different from Level 9

kind urchin
#

She's one of the only nikkes on which 10/10/10 isn't a waste so

#

Go wild

wanton falcon
#

I also recently gotten 200 mileage tickets

#

so I was thinking about saving them for either a Mast Re-run for 2B or just another S.Anis

kind urchin
#

Just save for now

#

Don't spend

wanton falcon
#

fair enough, I have 160 normal mileage and 200 golden ones.
I was thinking of just rolling on standard till I get 200 so I can MLB signal to break the 160 wall

rancid saddle
wanton falcon
#

She feels even more fun to play

#

also what is s2?

rancid saddle
#

skill 2, 2nd skill
sparkling missiles

indigo gate
# wanton falcon so I was thinking about saving them for either a Mast Re-run for 2B or just anot...

SAnis is no longer in the milage shop and if a Mast rerun happens it likely won't be until next summer at the earliest. It's almost at the 1y anniversary and they've never yet done a rerun. Your only option of those three right now is 2B, but it's not worth it if you already have her unless you're going to MLB her, especially if you're F2P. Better to save gold tickets for the next Pilgrim (which should be in November) so you don't have to roll on a 1% banner.

#

Rereading your message, I misunderstood what you said, but yeah you can't actually spend gold tickets on Mast or SAnis right now. Save them for November.

wanton falcon
indigo gate
#

You'll have hundreds more gold tickets by then, no use saving these ones when there's a pilgrim banner coming PomieYay

#

especially when there's no guarantee either of them will be rerun next summer

wanton falcon
#

I don't have any crystals now for wishes, but I have 172 normal and 200 golden mileage

indigo gate
#

As long as you do your dailies and clear out all the events, you'll gather gems and tickets pretty quick Suisei_ThumbsUp

wanton falcon
#

I was planning to just wish on normal banner till I hit 200 mileage so I can buy Signal in shop to break the 160 wall

indigo gate
wanton falcon
wanton falcon
#

I do plan to take her to 10/10/10 eventually, but for now what should I choose between S1 and S2?

noble sun
#

don't upgrade burst to 10 too expensive for small gain

sterile citrus
#

Don't you need lvl 10 burst to no longer rely on privaty?

lusty pumice
#

lvl9

torpid axle
#

9 to 10 is just a small elemental damage buff gain

#

which I agree with not worth spending level 10 skill mats

wanton falcon
blissful epoch
#

No, noir gives extra ammo which is anti-synergy with Anis' last bullet mechanic.

wanton falcon
#

So if I did get the Bunnies, who would I put them with?

noble sun
#

anyone that is not sanis deadge

pine tree
blissful epoch
#

Bunnies are only bad with characters that have last ammo as a major part of their kit. Besides that they're great with everyone else.

lusty pumice
#

what burst skill is needed to have 1 ammo with Privaty?

#

I've seen 3, 4 and 5 as answers

sweet plank
#

Oh nvm

#

Privaty % + anis % =>70% will give you that

#

Another victim

noble sun
#

level 1

lusty pumice
#

thx

#

I guess people were saying lvl5 is needed bc of how cheap it is anyway

noble sun
#

it is for reload speed

lusty pumice
#

but then it depends on Privaty's S1 lvl as well

noble sun
#

yes

wanton falcon
#

So close

sterile citrus
#

Open those boxes

wanton falcon
#

i did

pine tree
#

I always have a thousand or so pvp shop boxes saved up in case i need them

wanton falcon
#

Finally.

digital delta
#

How to waste materials 101

wanton falcon
digital delta
wanton falcon
#

Again, if it's just my favourite, I don't think it's wasted. If I was to do the same for 2 or more, then I would say it is.

digital delta
#

Your definition of wasted is diff from mine

#

So for me it still is, but for you it isnt

#

Even if I have a waifu

#

I wouldnt level the skills

wanton falcon
#

Well, thanks for sharing your opinion on the matter. In the future I'll keep that in mind when getting new units that are more flexible, but till then I'll just play favourites and have fun.

pale umbra
wanton falcon
signal stone
#

What's the best meta team with Summer Annis? (Assuming you have all nikkes)

kind urchin
signal stone
#

mmm i've got SAnis Scarlet And Privaty

#

but as b1 i only have Pepper and n102

kind urchin
#

You can use pepper too actually

#

That's good

#

Pepper B2cdr SAnis scar priv

signal stone
#

i've centi as b2

#

still at ch12

kind urchin
#

They might be better for you

#

Over centi

kind urchin
signal stone
#

I dont have any of those 2 sadly

#

but thanks for helping me out!

pale umbra
#

Peak dps

#

Clears all SI

signal stone
#

Thanks!

lofty stream
#

For ammo reduction, it goes like this

Final ammo = Base ammo - Round(Base ammo x %ammo reduction self) + Bonus Ammo absolute - Round (Base ammo x % ammo reduction debuff)

It explains why SAnis with Tove = 7 ammo, but with Priv too = 4

frail ember
#

Is Sanis still good? Still useful?

kind urchin
#

She is SSS tier PvP
And she is SS tier bossing
And she's S tier campaign

frail ember
#

Alright thanks 😊

wanton falcon
#

For summer anis should i wait for her to come back and roll for dupes or would it help getting summer mary?

normal latch
#

You can live without Summer Mary tbh. Summer Anis is coming later this month and she's far better than the other Summer units

rancid saddle
#

summer anis is electric queen and pvp queen

#

the first part isn’t that impressive because electric dps are kinda meh

#

only herself, scarlet, guillotine and mpriv

exotic chasm
#

skip troll

pine pier
#

@ebon owl do your pulls yet?

ebon owl
pine pier
hasty wharf
#

ive done 60 pulls and havent gotten her

#

i just want base form pls

lofty stream
#

tested today against C.C

#

She's no longer fat

#

can dodge ball properly

digital delta
lofty stream
#

while when

kind urchin
lofty stream
#

during Liter's skin right?

kind urchin
#

Yep

#

3 months after that

lofty stream
#

cuz I'm sure Sanis ate ball from CC 28, C30 all the time

kind urchin
lusty pumice
#

[Anis: Sparkling Summer] New Unit Megathread

vivid solstice
#

does someone know when she'll rerun again?

#

i started playing on September 2024 when Rouge was around and missed her 2024 rerun unfortunately

carmine marten
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expected to not rerun this summer, seasonal reruns were seen only for previous year's units

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xmas reran xrupee and xanne with xlud xmica then xlud xmica with xmaiden xguillo but not xrupee xanne
ny reran mod with sbs then sbs with rapi but not mod with rapi
summer reran all (because only 1 year)

serene pasture
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ShiftUp mentioned they would add ways to rerun them just not during the exact banner event with other summer units.

However, that mention was a long time ago now. They've already rerun winter without bringing back the oldest winter units.

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There were also no hints of the oldest winter units being made available by any other way since then.

carmine marten
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ya basically until they do something new, its expected not to rerun yet

serene pasture
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If this status quo stands, seasonal Nikkes will eventually become unrecruitable.

tardy hawk
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Hiii guys since sanis will be rerolling in sept, just wanted to ask… since she’s still OP together with cindy and other electric units, is it time to worth it on mlb her??

kind urchin
tardy hawk
kind urchin
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So it's nice

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Since it buffs Cindy and maiden and herself

tardy hawk
vivid solstice
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do we know the day she'll rerun this September?

lofty stream
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we know

sick sinew
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My wife is back