The Eden

[tepid imp]

because all OL are shit to Defender

[severe musk]

Hero Vision: Explosion Radius ▲ 2.11%, stacks up to 5 time(s) and lasts for 15 sec.</color>

■ Activates when hitting a target with Full Charge. Affects the target.
Deals 78.26% of final ATK as additional damage.
■ Activates when hitting the target's Parts. Affects the target's body.
Deals 8.73% of final ATK as additional damage.

■ Affects self. 
Change the Weapon in use: 
First Damage: 1455.72% of final ATK
Normal Damage: 22% of final ATK
Last for: 10 sec
Additional Effect 1: Pierce
Additional Effect 2: Normal damage is applied as true damage when Hero Vision is fully stacked.
Attention: Unable to take cover when using Burst Skill.
■ Affects the same enemy unit(s) when Hero Vision is fully stacked.
Deals 11.9% of final ATK as true damage.```  

ok i scroll backk a lot to get this  , Laplace one i think

[silk crypt]

lets see if she can facetank SI thomas

[quick reef]

my Rem team dreams might become reality

[tepid imp]

the Lap burst can be think as

[quasi dagger]

@umbral lantern are you happy now?

[tepid imp]

1455.72% base
22%+8.73% + 11.9%
22% as pierce if part exists

[umbral lantern]

Yeah Happy!

[quasi dagger]

You asked for Laplace, did you not?

[tepid imp]

total modifier is around 13218.4%

that's pretty much Snow White with pierce

and crit

5000% x 2 x (random bullcrit)

[meager pendant]

is that skill rank 10

[tepid imp]

should be

[meager pendant]

cause thats.. massive buff

[severe musk]

team 5 now kek

[tepid imp]

yeah

[meager pendant]

897 to 1500?

[tepid imp]

current Laplace is around 3500%

[dull cargo]

Actual team 5 with rem

[tepid imp]

new Laplace total modifier will be 13k%

that's 4x times increased

[severe musk]

what happens if buffed by Frima

[broken kindle]

So does diesel need roughly 2-3 max ammo and bastion to work?

[tepid imp]

the hero has arisen!

well you added 1.8 more

[left salmon]

still it adds stats like HP

[modern flower]

frima lappy's maid

[fathom parcel]

damn

[burnt hamlet]

so laplace is as strong as sw?

[tepid imp]

too small at my lv

[fathom parcel]

that's is improvement

[tepid imp]

should be, under some conditions

because she's new Snow Why

you can build a team around her too

just like Snow

[severe musk]

actually should all these be in research lab section too ?

[tepid imp]

should, but Mod is preparing it

[fathom parcel]

cool

[vital hatch]

treasure not out yet

[severe musk]

cause these are like new stuff

[vital hatch]

so can't create a thread yet

[severe musk]

fair fair

[fathom parcel]

and yeah..fair point

we still on datamine stage

[gleaming field]

YEAAAAAAAH

[severe musk]

but can we get all treasure when patch live ?

[vital hatch]

we get those 4

[severe musk]

not time gated yea ?

[fathom parcel]

idk

they are obtainable from dispatch and solo raid

[keen schooner]

It's gacha gated

[fathom parcel]

so...rng?

[mint vessel]

[vital hatch]

depend on how fast can you gather the material

[umbral lantern]

Yeah

[broken kindle]

So does Frima need overload at all?

[mint vessel]

glad i didnt do my dispatch

[tepid imp]

highly recommend treasure that Diesel

or you will be fucked hard in PVP

[dull cargo]

I recently got her LB2

[tepid imp]

it's also impossible to nuke a Defender unless you use 2B

[dull cargo]

She is on her way to 30 now

[vital hatch]

my core4 diesel is ready

[static hearth]

Clay is in the files, so does that mean summer is delayed then?

[broken kindle]

Jokes on me, I have everyone except Exia at max bond

[tepid imp]

you need to deal around 769% ATK PER HIT to break even with her heal

[grim merlin]

watches as XRupee gets evaporated

[severe musk]

finally my Laplace Core4 got some use now

[tepid imp]

even Scarlet can't deal that much

[ancient arch]

Fuck... Clay REALLY LOOKS LIKE THAT SHE MADE FOR SEGGSS eh ?

[broken kindle]

So even Sanis stalls out?

[balmy night]

earliest summer can be is July 4th now

[tepid imp]

yep, Sanis won't be able to kill her but she kills other 4

[quick reef]

5 more weeks

[glad kraken]

im thinking they're pushing events forward

[tepid imp]

Diesel only tanks for herself, not team

[glad kraken]

so they can do back to back for part 1 and part 2

[tepid imp]

you still need some protection against wipe

[fathom parcel]

now i wish bay is B1

[broken kindle]

So for pvp diesel go 10/4/7?

[grim merlin]

Merciless

[glad kraken]

its looking that way with how they're scheduling

[dull cargo]

Summer event first ever 4 weeks event? I would be down to see something like that

[static hearth]

That's when ZZZ releases

[meager pendant]

Nier was 4 weeks

[tepid imp]

may be

[broken kindle]

@oblique hearth new Quiry team with diesel when

[glad kraken]

6 week 4 limiteds

[dull cargo]

All I want is to prevent a 0.25% rerun chance

[vital hatch]

4 NEW limiteds

[glad kraken]

with the returning 4

[merry pivot]

I was told the purpose of treasures were letting underused units “useful”. Looks like they are too useful now

[broken kindle]

Tove team already dead

[lean cosmos]

No one should deny the true purpose of cheerleading

[grim merlin]

Just you wait until you see the sudden XRupee meta

[ancient arch]

Yeah

XRupee is SEGGGSSS i want her great too

[meager pendant]

Bring on the Limited GACHA Skins

[vital hatch]

and i thought sg team was cope, until i read this

[merry pivot]

Wait I thought balice solved the issue?

[meager pendant]

its beacuse Treasures are Strong as shit

[stark dagger]

Clay B2

Bye

[glad kraken]

[meager pendant]

Clay is B2?

[tepid imp]

just like Bay

[meager pendant]

LMAO

[broken kindle]

The new team 5 be Frima/Dolla/Laplace/Maxwell/flex healer

[fathom parcel]

???

[glad kraken]

why would they do this

[tepid imp]

doesn't matter, I won't use her anyway

[grim merlin]

Can we ban this guy joking

[glad kraken]

[fathom parcel]

why did they do this

[oblique ravine]

duo hopes born and die too quick

[stark dagger]

Ele: Electric

[glad kraken]

first re-enter b2 coming

[oblique ravine]

no

[twin pier]

Yes

[meager pendant]

Where is B4?

[oblique ravine]

Don’t say cursed things

[fathom parcel]

well...tbf, bay is 40s

[keen schooner]

re enter b3>

[grim merlin]

All-burst that also re-enters said burst stage

[vital hatch]

i'll pull for Clay regardless, just for that shooting pose alone

[fathom parcel]

and she's the type who you just leave her alone once you burst, since she's 100% uptime share dmg

[twin pier]

B3 into B1

[stark dagger]

Burst img

[oblique ravine]

Nice bait before summer shiftup

[keen schooner]

a b3 re enter b1 into rh full burst

[dull cargo]

B2 electric SMG

[meager pendant]

imagine B3 that resets EVERYONS Bursts 1 time

[merry pivot]

Will Rem fit in here?

[oblique ravine]

Btw I’m just up, which treasure gonna be good? I have lappy on one account and exia on the other ready

[meager pendant]

Diesel

[meager pendant]

then Laplace and Frima

[tepid imp]

Diesel is kinda niche for PVP and some SR

[meager pendant]

Also Treasures in general are broken strong

[tepid imp]

go for Lappy and Frima if you want

[quasi dagger]

Diesel is going to make people pay for shit talking her

[keen schooner]

every treasure is good

[meager pendant]

even the R and SR ones

[oblique ravine]

I’m one of em

[meager pendant]

game is 100% changing after patch

[oblique ravine]

That’s good to hear. Maybe I can push campaign

[stark dagger]

BGM

[meager pendant]

you pushing campaign AND Towers

[oblique ravine]

Is treasure gonna change pvp meta now?

[fathom parcel]

hoo boy

[vital hatch]

first order of business is equip 15 of your pvp units with treasure

[glad kraken]

whales gonna refresh dispatch to max collectibles asap

[fathom parcel]

we speedrunning after this isn't it?

[quasi dagger]

Towers exist now?

[shut siren]

im expecting meta to not change at all. just that these four will be used more

[oblique ravine]

Fuck me I honestly forgot towers exist

[fathom parcel]

[broken kindle]

What counts as normal damage? Not pierce?

[stark dagger]

Speed run academy

[fathom parcel]

normal atk yeah

[stark dagger]

How many idiots did SI before maint

[meager pendant]

10 synchro slots

[stark dagger]

[meager pendant]

OP OP

[thorny sand]

Oh yeah more academy gonna drain my credits huh

[oblique ravine]

Me

[tepid imp]

when the hype is over, I don't feel like it

[quasi dagger]

I got over 155M. I can spend it

[stark dagger]

F

[tepid imp]

[meager pendant]

I dont do SI until 5 minutes before reset

[broken kindle]

So useless for rh and Alice?

[stark dagger]

F

[meager pendant]

i typod. I meant reset

[quasi dagger]

I didn't even load the game yet lol

[thorny sand]

Rip my habit of always doing daily jobs before a maint has backfired.

Fgo with its frequent maint extensions going into the next day has ruined me

[oblique ravine]

I haven’t collected my dispatches from yesterday yet, coping a treasure shows up there

[dull cargo]

I did

[meager pendant]

https://www.reddit.com/r/NikkeMobile/comments/1d3qil7/this_thing_actually_vibrates/#lightbox

you see this

[fathom parcel]

what do you referring to again? generic treasure?

[meager pendant]

from reddit

Saying the bunny part vibrates

[shut siren]

yep its a rotor

rip those girls

[vital hatch]

you lost like 1 day of dispatch, not like that's matter

[shut siren]

mary has it on her ankle though

[dull cargo]

So we get 2-3 extra fodder from SI ?

[balmy night]

doing SI before maint isn't as damaging as hitting the dispatch imo which will give treasure stuff.
I expect SI will only drop more fodder t9 mats, not more T9M, so eh.

[oblique ravine]

Yep. Vibrator confirmed. Soda’s face is weird for a reason lmao

[keen schooner]

same, remember to do all the academy stuff before claiming yesterday's dispatch

[tepid imp]

damn, Diesel is now a viable B2 for Elysion tower

[meager pendant]

Bunny Rapi never happened

LMAO

[thorny sand]

Ultimately it's just 1 day of lower rewards, I'm not too fussed about SI/dispatch

[meager pendant]

This would have been a great SSR for Rapi

[oblique ravine]

Imagine we get ssr rapi spook in summer

Nice to dream

[tepid imp]

Every 8.1s, she gives 10% pierce dmg over 10s to D, reload 84% ammo for Guillo

490 ammo only

[shut siren]

guillotine alt will be better

[thorny sand]

With gacha skin of her embarassed in some super skimpy bunny outfit underneath, obviously

[tepid imp]

I don't even need Privaty there anymore

can goes D Diesel Guillo MPriv and Vesti for some burst gen

[quasi dagger]

My Elegg somehow has over 1100 rounds before reload. Damn
My Crown is near 1200 before reload.

[lean lichen]

Morning boss, plan is to have a proper thread per unit once treasure releases

[frosty inlet]

these treasures are wild, I thought they would just do like, one thing. They almost completely change everyone's kits

[shut siren]

treasure that changes weapon type when

have it so if any smg user has a favorite item it changes them to a random weapon type that's not smg

theyll be better off

[vital hatch]

treasure that change bust size, maybe Eunhwa can finally leave the committee

[quasi dagger]

& Diesel is the benchmark.
Laplace now can match pilgrims
Exia is steroids for electric allies
Frima is.........

[tepid imp]

Frima is there for Laplace

[quasi dagger]

Get out.... Lmao

[shut siren]

theyre gearing up for diesel's 5th skin: gacha skin

[fathom parcel]

frima is for laplace

[tepid imp]

the only true dmg lol

literally

no true dmg in this game beside Laplace

[fathom parcel]

that's enough to top her up

[thorny sand]

Honestly someone at SU clearly adores Diesel.

Swimsuit alt feels inevitable

[quasi dagger]

So Frima is a toy for Laplace. Check

[grim merlin]

Inb4 Clay does true dmg for some reason

[tepid imp]

Frima is Helm in Snow team
Rem is Yulha + Helm + some more DPS in Snow team

Lap is Snow

[shut siren]

ship

[tepid imp]

now we need a CDR

and may be, another DPS since we have 1 more slot

Emilia for example

[quasi dagger]

Shuttle maybe?

[vital hatch]

we dont know the drop rate yet

[shut siren]

nah yuri

[vital hatch]

might take a lot of time to get 1 treasure

[quasi dagger]

Okay fine lol

[lean lichen]

@tepid imp can you give me all treasures?

[fathom parcel]

well..we got 2 nearly abandoned B2 cdr

dolla and shelm

[shut siren]

thought dolla gets used for raids

[fathom parcel]

so..might be perfect for frima and laplace

[shut siren]

and summer helm... yeah nobody likes her

[stark dagger]

It's GD, Dolla back to benched

[thorny sand]

Need a B1 who is better than Liter but lacks CDR to justify them

[tepid imp]

I only have code version. There are some quote block above

[fathom parcel]

yeah, that

[lean lichen]

sure just spam my DM

[stark dagger]

So rate all treasure?

[fathom parcel]

B2 cdr is nearly discarded atm

[lean lichen]

i don't wanna search for all

[torn forge]

i'm a bit out of the loop. which treasures are godly?

[frosty inlet]

seems like all of them kinda

[thorny sand]

B2 CDR will return if SU is ever willing to release a strong B1 support who lacks CDR (e.g. gives strong damage buffs and heals)

[quasi dagger]

Easy fix for her:
You know that damage taken thing for Electric Raptures?
Make it stronger for that, for the other 4 elements, make it half value
Now she can be used everywhere that can fit her
Instead of just electric elemental content

[fathom parcel]

frima laplace for raids
diesel for pvp
you can ignore exia

[shut siren]

wishful thinking...

[sand vale]

exia dps now

[frosty inlet]

exia seems good for electric teams tho

[vital hatch]

inb4 it takes 2-3 months of dispatch to fully upgrade 1 treasure

[fathom parcel]

who would've tought, lol

[shut siren]

honestly lately ive regretted starting the game for summer helm

i wouldve had more gems if not for her

[peak mesa]

Exia for lightning team

[quasi dagger]

She's a steroid for them, yeah.

[fathom parcel]

a bit hard to replace doro for her tbh

you lose cdr

for 28% atk based on exia's stats

[frosty inlet]

at a minimum she elevates the team decently if you don't have doro then I guess

[thorny sand]

Especially since assuming this is raid context, you also lose Doro parts damage buff

[sand vale]

well she'll have some use in lighting weak sr in team 4/5

[vital hatch]

i guess the treasure gonna work like OL gears, you get them to max level then do some kind of permanent bond the item to the user

[fathom parcel]

well..you definetly can't use exia on pvp

so..lol

and it's kinda complicated

[oblique hearth]

https://tenor.com/view/thinking-no-idea-gif-17947479

[tepid imp]

Midxia

I told you

more like Shitxia but whatever

for Lappy, go for ATK > Ele => Whatever. Pretty much Snow/Red lol

[fathom parcel]

there should be a proper test later, but we'll see

[tepid imp]

dmg on burst = everything

[mint vessel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1112620848692596767/1240383785489534976/clap.gif

[shut siren]

so is laplace good outside of burst or still bad

[tepid imp]

imagine they fix Laplace burst from 20 => 60

[fathom parcel]

but frima+ lappy is more interesting

[tepid imp]

oh I couldn't imagine

[queen gorge]

you can say that for almost every SR in the game

[shut siren]

laplace's burst is 20? thought it was 40

[tepid imp]

that's the thing I will test immediately when patch is alive: Lap burst fire rate

[vital hatch]

almost all sniper units are dogshit outside burst, so yeah

[fathom parcel]

since we only had 2 competitive game mode, what do you expect

[queen gorge]

SR has the shittiest burst gen afaik

[vital hatch]

SMG ??

[oblique ravine]

How does diesel even work with pvp? Her burst gen is ass

[vital hatch]

SMG so shit bro forgot

[shut siren]

if something is bad smg is worse

[queen gorge]

there's only one SMG in the game

Liter

[fathom parcel]

compensate with other units, lol

[quasi dagger]

Oh even Mica doesn't exist. Ouch

[fathom parcel]

put emilia, centi, whatever

[vital hatch]

Mica at least has a passive boost to her burst gen

[oblique ravine]

Yea. Anis centi jackal emilia I guess 🥶

[fathom parcel]

[vital hatch]

not like it's much but at least it's something

[shut siren]

game up||?||

[oblique ravine]

Takes all the burst gen from other teams

Literally shooting yourself on the foot

[river shuttle]

Many because they are salarymen

[vital hatch]

the important thing is how's the drop rate, and the requirements to upgrade 1 treasure to full

if it take 3 months for 1 of them, yeah gg

[fathom parcel]

i didn't open the game yet

[frosty inlet]

not up yet

[fathom parcel]

i probably at the bottom on pvp atm, but whatever

[shut siren]

favors whales who reset dispatches

people will unironically buy gems to dispatch now

[vital hatch]

cash shop will have new bundles for treasure now

that's how whale will widen the gap

sorry but if you dont refresh dispatch mission you been missing ou

t

[shut siren]

I only get an average of 15 gems per day from it so its not worth it

[vital hatch]

how so ?

you get alot of gem missions so its basically 90% free

[shut siren]

dang lucky

[shut siren]

wtf

[vital hatch]

For example -25 on that but still worth

[grim merlin]

Only 75?

Mid

[shut siren]

so its a constant gem deficit

[vital hatch]

I spend 100

Gor 75 back 14h credits

[radiant saddle]

yea it's about the other resources

[shut siren]

whale gotta whale i guess...

[radiant saddle]

I think it's worth at least one refresh even if you're f2p

it adds up and it's cheap

[vital hatch]

Pick 2 gem missions = free refresh

[radiant saddle]

like doing one extra wipe out per day for outpost defense

[meager pendant]

so nothing else related to summer was found?

nice

[fathom parcel]

hmm? the rewards guranteed better?

[meager pendant]

still hope for Cdub

[vital hatch]

midhara

[fathom parcel]

i never knew

[mint vessel]

only maiden skin pass

[atomic wagon]

[grim merlin]

Surely Maiden and Guilotine are there to basically babysit Yuni & Mihara (mainly watching Yuni) while on the island or wherever they go

[meager pendant]

So summer is going to be way later than last year

[frosty inlet]

summer maiden skin??? pog

[mint vessel]

ya someone said its during july 4?

[meager pendant]

might mean only 1 summer event

like I mentioned earlier

[glad kraken]

yeah if clay event is directly after bunnies

then 4 jul

[grim merlin]

Or as someone else mentioned… back to back

[mint vessel]

[pseudo canopy]

that or they won't have a break in between like they did last year

[granite sorrel]

jesus christ the transformed kits

[vital hatch]

did any f2p actually reset their dispatch daily ?

[granite sorrel]

besides frima they all became highly niche or super usable

no longer poo

[vital hatch]

They are to afraid to lose gems

[granite sorrel]

[shut siren]

month and a half summer event would be so draining.

[grim merlin]

More like I normally don’t claim my dispatches until reset the next day

[shut siren]

id just skip all the dialogue because I wouldnt take it

[grim merlin]

This time I just didn’t claim

[shut siren]

need a break between em

[vital hatch]

is there a strat to maximize returns from reset dispatch ?

[wide verge]

You would get a break during Event 1 Hard Mode.

[vital hatch]

pick all boxes, pick 2 gems mission to get around 50

refresh

[shut siren]

and what if there's no break and it immediately goes into 2

then its 2 dead weeks at the end

[vital hatch]

if no new boxes or gems missions just take em or gamble and refresh again but need 2 more gem missions

[vital hatch]

i guess i can try a bit on one of those material drop kinda day

i only care for credits and core dust

since i barely get any rock and most stuff is OL 5

i need those more then gear fodder mats

[wide verge]

That would be a disaster, but I don't think they'd do that.

[fathom parcel]

nah...they can't do that....right?

looking at summer 2> nier last year

hehe

[vital hatch]

good night to raid CNPP

[vital hatch]

China power plant ?

[grim merlin]

Imagine Back to back part 1 instantly into part 2 …. And then into collab

Just to be mean

[shut siren]

and then right into anniversary

[grim merlin]

[wide verge]

Eclipse wasn't just talking about having back to back major events, but 2 back to back major events with a single shared 2 week Hard Mode at the end. Basically a 6 week event with Story 1, 2, 3, 4, and then 2 weeks of Hard Mode.

[shut siren]

https://tenor.com/view/onimai-anime-sleep-mihari-oyama-gif-27609322

[slate hinge]

is it me or is nikke going full 18+ soon

[shut siren]

nope

[slate hinge]

godam what is that

[shut siren]

just you

underboob isnt new my guy

[keen schooner]

nah, they spend too much in marketing to go +18

[grim merlin]

Nah, just edging the guildines while still benefiting from the ads

[fathom parcel]

that's overkill

[slate hinge]

still make my brain happy though

[brazen glen]

Am getting this if she gets to be mask-free in her summer look

[shut siren]

now she has to wear a diving mask

[granite sorrel]

my gawd

does that mean we can cope?

[grim merlin]

Cope

About what this time?

[granite sorrel]

will aria finally stop being dogshit?

[shut siren]

everyone's always coping

what why aria

[worldly dock]

Exia can spam tap @tepid imp forever no?

Are u sure she's bad

[granite sorrel]

cuz her kit is absolute wack all over the place of a drunk homeless drawing with his piss

[worldly dock]

I think her damage is okay not bad but not good

[granite sorrel]

300 ammo with last bullet effect?

smol asf crit buffer?

wtf bro

[dense cosmos]

Never

[shut siren]

well whats funny is these four got less use than her. that means there's people out there who use aria actively

[grim merlin]

Nah, if XRupee meta can be real than Aria can too

[dense cosmos]

He said in staff chat in pryd server that her values are too low for last bullet skill

[granite sorrel]

The Blighted Ones

[dense cosmos]

I think exia is a case of S.Neon

[grim merlin]

One does not invoke that name in vain

[oblique ravine]

My poor core 1 exia

[granite sorrel]

b-b-b-but...

[oblique ravine]

[lucid finch]

gatrix said?

[dense cosmos]

Yeah

He said her DPS isn't good enough to warrant her in
Plus her team Buffs are too low in general for a support

[lucid finch]

[oblique ravine]

Dead stays dead

[lucid finch]

Exia hater

[dense cosmos]

Is he wrong

[lucid finch]

i think she's good

[grim merlin]

Yes

Cause I said so

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/968098119717904433/1215544090007969802/RupeeShake_1_1.gif

[pseudo canopy]

lol we're about to go from Summer 1, Summer 2, Red Hood Skin Event, Stellar Blade Collab.

[keen schooner]

perma 40% atk + 18% damage taken on burst isn't good enough?

damn

[worldly dock]

Huh

[lucid finch]

she defo looks like BiS for electric-weak

[shut siren]

the unholy quadruple skip

[dense cosmos]

#1245614556932476990 message

#1245614556932476990 message

[oblique ravine]

Skip? Only you’re doing it lmao

[shut siren]

yep lol

good resources for cinderella anniversary

if that exists

[delicate magnet]

next step is skipping the entire game

[keen schooner]

harper banner>

[shut siren]

dont challenge me to something you know ill win

[radiant saddle]

you'll skip Cinderella too

[balmy night]

he already said he won't pull until EoS if there's nothing that interests him

[delicate magnet]

[shut siren]

if she's anachiro, annoying, and a burst 3/4 attacker pilgrim that breaks the meta in two, yes

[radiant saddle]

she's definitely going to break the meta just like Hood

[shut siren]

we'll see

[radiant saddle]

she'll be too popular, you're gonna hate it

[shut siren]

i dont hate whats popular

otherwise id hate laplace

id hate elegg too. but i dont

[radiant saddle]

popular and also high tier then

[oblique ravine]

I’ll have enough gold mileage for her even after summer. I only need ass

[shut siren]

nah. im fine with dorothy

i like using snow white

and liter is great

just people dont ask what i do like

[radiant saddle]

I only ever see you talk about what you hate too tbf

[shut siren]

well the things i just listed arent ever really talked about right

people know theyre good

they moved on

i mean i even invested somewhat into crown

i do plan to use her once her skills are higher

[grim merlin]

[radiant saddle]

I do think Cinderella is going to be intentionally strong tho since she and Red Hood have their history

[shut siren]

i dunno. they probably dont want to make anything too strong unless its what the players want. red hood was never intended to be bullshit if it wasnt for the outrage

[delicate magnet]

Mfw Shift-up drops Summer Guilty in 2028

[radiant saddle]

well the triple burst is pretty insane as a new mechanic

I'm wondering what else they'd come up with

[shut siren]

what if

character that triple bursts

but

every stage

is reenter burst

[grim merlin]

I already jokes about that when someone said stop saying cursed thing

make her a 60 CD as well just to fuck with you

[shut siren]

catch: Can only burst once

[radiant saddle]

then the rest of the fight she goes back to sleep in her coffin

[umbral lantern]

this is what?

[torn forge]

or give cinderella the ability to switch between all of the weapon types

[radiant saddle]

my old chair

[granite sorrel]

lots of hugs

[radiant saddle]

ooh that would be pretty interesting

[shut siren]

based on the silhouette of the hair that looks like theyre reaching for alice

[broken kindle]

pls release quiry team 4.0

[torn forge]

i mean, we not only saw her bombing stuff like an airstrike. she can use glass slippers as a machine gun and fire a laser beam

[oblique ravine]

I mean red did plap her in the end. Maybe she’s not that strong? 🤓

[broken kindle]

hmm duo name idea: frimaplap (frima plus laplace)

[balmy night]

it was a team effort tho

rh just did the final blow iinm

[shut siren]

and she still failed to kill

anachiro nonsensically tanky

[oblique ravine]

how to power creep redhood

she sounds like a defender lmao

[torn forge]

would a corrupted nikke really be capable of sophisticated decision making? cause i don't know if that's all she can do

[oblique ravine]

but yeah

[broken kindle]

cursed art idea: laplace sandwiched between Frima and Maxwell
Frima: Simple. I like

[shut siren]

well the nikke isnt in control. the rapture programming is and they seemed to get the hang of it fast

[oblique hearth]

With what changes? None of the new units are good enough for PvP

[shut siren]

remember what chatterbox said? corrupted nikkes are aware of everything theyre doing and they cant stop it

[broken kindle]

looks at Diesel

[desert token]

she gonna be broken

[slate hinge]

so gravedigger confirmed?

what code will it be? electric or fire

[keen schooner]

weak to iron

[torn forge]

but they're not the ones translating the decisions into actions when not in control of their body

[broken kindle]

out of the 4, exia isn't a threat
frima and laplace are more for pve
but that train conductor....she scares me

[vital hatch]

CHILLS

[shut siren]

no but again rapture programming seemed to perform just fine

[slate hinge]

osu god will ace this solo raid

[shut siren]

https://tenor.com/view/osu-osugame-osutiktok-tiktok-osu-player-gif-24546393

[broken field]

update done?

[radiant saddle]

one thing I hope they cover by next anni event is how corruption works and the diff between that and heretics

[balmy night]

44 minutes

[oblique hearth]

You might need to share the datamine, I've not been keeping up

[shut siren]

ctlr F strawberry

[torn forge]

still though. we don't know the full extent of rapture programming's decision making and how it compares to the nikke's natural intelligence and decision making skills

[shut siren]

i mean based on current heretics

pretty good

as for anachiro

she responds fine

just couldnt talk

[oblique hearth]

I'm in bed on mobile and there's no Search function on mobile Discord for threads lol

[shut siren]

yeah search the datamine channel

itll search eden too

[radiant saddle]

or just go to bed and read it all when you get up

if you act like it was all just posted I promise to play along and act just as amazed as I was the first time around

[broken kindle]

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[lucid finch]

@stark dagger pardon if anybody asked already, but nothing about rock rates in this patch?

[broken kindle]

tldr: taunt tank that just refuses to die

[broken kindle]

same as usual

reinforcements arrive in august

[lucid finch]

[meager pendant]

Wasn't there something about academy

[remote vault]

[oblique hearth]

Ok, I see it, so she gets double HP on burst effectively?

[meager pendant]

Dispatch Collection Open
50,000 gold
t's an old class, but the order is confusing.

Class J

• Unlock 5 synchro devices
  1,000,000 gold
• Unlock collectibles
  1,000,000 gold

Class K

• Interception battle lesson (additional compensation provided when special object interception battle is conducted)
  1,000,000 gold
• Unlock collectibles
  1,000,000 gold
• Unlock collectibles
  1,000,000 gold

Class L

• Unlock 5 synchro devices
  1,000,000 gold
• Unlock collectibles
  1,000,000 gold

Class M

• Interception battle lesson (additional compensation provided when special object interception battle is conducted)
  1,000,000 gold
• Unlock collectibles
  1,000,000 gold
• Unlock cherished items
  1,000,000 gold

Class k and m?

[broken kindle]

and a bit of defense, but the scary part is basically nobody can bypass her heal on hit

[broken kindle]

and this time the taunt lasts the full 10 seconds

[shut siren]

my ms paint skills are strong

[oblique hearth]

She still has the same issue of being an MG (major feeding). She survives longer, sure, but she doesn't do anything to save the rest of the team.

She doesn't actually synergize with Team Quiry

You would get the exact same result running Nero actually

[slate hinge]

so shes like makima or something

everyone die and shes alive

[granite sorrel]

eh...

[oblique hearth]

Pretty much that's what happens when you run Nero B2 with Team Quiry lol

[tepid imp]

yep

[oblique hearth]

Gets slaughtered by both Scarlet and SAnis comps

[tepid imp]

she's a good wall, but not a roof

[oblique hearth]

And most other AoE comps

[tepid imp]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1145730765422874697/1245608628015337482/IMG_8552.gif

[twin pier]

5 minutes for maintenance extension notice

[worldly dock]

Mt over?

[tepid imp]

also I'm sure she can tank Sanis + S2

[broken kindle]

but is Diesel a valid offence option?

[granite sorrel]

nein

[tepid imp]

so your attacker just needs to swallow 13 hits S2

[oblique hearth]

Only good really against RH and Alice but the original Team Quiry can handle that just fine as well

[worldly dock]

Exia will surely replace Doro.

[tepid imp]

bro pls

28% atk buff for elec

and 18% dmg taken

[granite sorrel]

no no no

[tepid imp]

I would bet my money on Hero and her birdie

[granite sorrel]

you gotta multiply both

[broken kindle]

Frima being the birdie?

[tepid imp]

yeah

[granite sorrel]

28 × 18 = 504% damage boost

[lean lichen]

Heya can ya'll send me the treasure images for the 4 units?

@west bear

[dense cosmos]

Bro got the selfie

[worldly dock]

What is laplace fire rate

[tepid imp]

burst?

[granite sorrel]

shotgunà

[tepid imp]

20

[worldly dock]

Yes

[tepid imp]

current

20/s

so expected 195 per 10s

I put 182

[west bear]

they have been posted here already. I am at work but if you still need them I'll grab them when I get off

[lean lichen]

i'll try to find them then

[worldly dock]

8200?

[shut siren]

frima
#1059468005911830558 message
laplace
#1059468005911830558 message
exia
#1059468005911830558 message

diesel is mia

[worldly dock]

It wont load for me gg

[lean lichen]

can't find diesel full image

[worldly dock]

Laplace burst deals 8200% wtf

You need Rem for that

I just reset Rem

Yall give me dumb advice

😦

[tepid imp]

8200% on single

[broken kindle]

#1059468005911830558 message diesel

[tepid imp]

pierce = x2

[worldly dock]

If no pierce?

[broken kindle]

are we forgetting about the massive skill module shortage we're in?

skill issue?

[tepid imp]

22% x 200 = 4400%, this is base can core hit

then 1455% on top

then 7.8% x 200 if part exists

then 11.9% x 200 because of S1

that's a lot of dmg

her burst should be equal Snow White now

give or take

[lucid finch]

i don't trust gatrix

he says Exia bad

[tepid imp]

I'm sorry for speaking truth

it hurts

[worldly dock]

8.73%

[broken kindle]

is diesel just a pvp fad?

[tepid imp]

oh, I just put a random number

[lean lichen]

send diesel gif please once you're off work

[tepid imp]

and Ely tower

[worldly dock]

Nah

Snowwhite is more maldy

You either crit or no crit

[broken kindle]

doesn't marciana exist

[worldly dock]

But technically with SW u have higher ceiling

If u aim for all crits

!!!!!!!!

Laplace is more consistent

[broken kindle]

but lower ceiling

ofc you can hack in crits but that would be bannable

[worldly dock]

Well Rem gives attack buff

[tepid imp]

Marci ruins Guillo

[civic tendon]

mast for guillo

[tepid imp]

[civic tendon]

[tepid imp]

can Mast peel your Guillo from those shitty raptures

[broken kindle]

and then run shelm or dolla for burst cdr?

[tepid imp]

or random Mod shot

[keen schooner]

for elysion tower dwife+diesel may be good, but imo miranda's burst is too good for elysion's DPSs

[civic tendon]

core 7 blue cp can

[broken kindle]

well give dolla to sw, shelm to laplace

[keen schooner]

so I will stick to miranda+shelm

[worldly dock]

I still cant find use for Diesel

[broken kindle]

you don't even gen burst fast enough

[worldly dock]

She doesnt give much offense wise

[broken kindle]

even with maiden

[broken kindle]

tldr, pve fad

probably okay for campaign but that's about it

[worldly dock]

Dont tell me uree gonna use diesel in pvp

[keen schooner]

manual eunhwa if you want burst gen then

[broken kindle]

oh yes I will, you can start off with 10/4/4

[worldly dock]

Just run Diesel Rosanna ez

[broken kindle]

rip shelm then

[keen schooner]

neither shelm or eunhwa have to burst

[worldly dock]

Laplace > Diesel > Exia > Frima

[hexed spire]

Rh treasure when? I want her sniper to get a MG upgrade

[keen schooner]

and you can run 2 b3 and 2 b2

[broken kindle]

why frima last

you get like 50% true damage increase

and like 80% for the first 5 seconds

[worldly dock]

Do we have her numbers

[hexed spire]

0

[halcyon hearth]

So Frima plays with Laplace

[broken kindle]

#1059468005911830558 message

[worldly dock]

Ok snow white is dead

[broken kindle]

especially if you pair with Rem and Maxwell

[worldly dock]

Laplace + Frima > Diesel > Exia

[broken kindle]

then follow up with shelm

[worldly dock]

Damn

Elemental shield: hehe

[granite sorrel]

BACON > Laplace + Frima > Diesel > Exia

[weary ivy]

Why first 5 sec

[broken kindle]

well you can swap maxwell for drake, or any b3 of your choice

[weary ivy]

30% from s2 seems like basically permanent buff

[broken kindle]

whoops didn't look at wake up correctly

[worldly dock]

Frima Rem Laplace Emil/A2 Dolla/SHelm

[broken kindle]

power sucks

[worldly dock]

Wait too many heals

[broken kindle]

could bscar go in there?

or just dolla can handle?

[granite sorrel]

Use the eingrych text to compare the numbers
Green = Normal
Red = Favorite

[weary ivy]

Bscar need alice

[lean lichen]

damn we need that for EN

[worldly dock]

Only laplace has true damage tho for now

[fathom parcel]

it's crazy that 1.5 years passed, and laplace is still the only units

[dense cosmos]

Maint extended by 5 hours?

[fathom parcel]

hmmm?

[keen schooner]

extended by 5 years

[granite sorrel]

15mins left, at that point, spam click the game to refresh

[worldly dock]

Wait no

Frima is bad

[dense cosmos]

Okie

[worldly dock]

It just buffs the true damage part

Not the whole damage

[granite sorrel]

yeah

[slate hinge]

I dont read the kit but soda burst is aoe right?

[vernal ibex]

Yes

[tepid imp]

which is the major dmg of her burst

[granite sorrel]

Frima enabled True damage and then buffs that true damage

[worldly dock]

Nein

[granite sorrel]

but outside of that, it looks rip

[worldly dock]

11.9% x 200 is not major

[granite sorrel]

but who knows...

[slate hinge]

How many buff she need for pvp to wipe?

[tepid imp]

did you skip reading her burst?

22% is also true dmg

[worldly dock]

42% × 200 is not major.

[silk crypt]

huh

[worldly dock]

But lets be honest

Here's the thing

[granite sorrel]

(( 22 + 11.9 ) × 200 ) × Bacon = Kill mobs in 1 shots, elites in 3 shot and tyrant falls in love with you

[worldly dock]

Trust my cooking

[granite sorrel]

[silk crypt]

til 8400% is not major

[worldly dock]

Look listen

[tepid imp]

shut ut bitch

[worldly dock]

The next DPS unit will be RL with true damage.

100% trust me.

I can see it.

I am from the future.

[vernal ibex]

More importantly

[weary ivy]

Nah

True damage but not rl

[vernal ibex]

B Soda or treasure Laplace?

[lucid finch]

wym

why is that a choice

[granite sorrel]

no, its gonna be SMG True damage, splash effect that hits everything on the screen and drops 1 per mob killed

[vernal ibex]

Cuz only one flex SR team

[scenic sphinx]

why is the update so fucking big

[vital hatch]

https://tenor.com/view/5d-ascension-third-eye-awakening-gif-17507857

[fathom parcel]

your laplace is no LB2 yet?

oh

[slate hinge]

So anyone know how well she wipe in pvp compared to mpriv/scarlet?

[worldly dock]

I RESET REM CUS EVERYONE TOLD ME TO

ID RATHER RESET MY SMARY FUCK YALL

[silk crypt]

i forgot to use my skill resets again

[vernal ibex]

Using Laplace + Rem would be cheaper than trying to build SG team

[granite sorrel]

and then he said "trust me" but doesnt trust himself

[silk crypt]

[worldly dock]

[slate hinge]

Lol

[fathom parcel]

[vernal ibex]

lol imagine resetting Rem

[fathom parcel]

good point

[lucid finch]

lol imagine listening to kisenix after this

[broken field]

maintenance over?

[granite sorrel]

Subaru did

[vernal ibex]

My Tove and Leona are 4/4/4, so if Laplace can compete with B Soda, then B Soda is now 100% skip for me

[drifting pagoda]

Dang man, theyre really letting loose on the sexuality of their assets now, hory sheet. Hide yo kids

[lucid finch]

nah you're crazy for skipping B.Soda

[silk crypt]

i am getting bunny soda coz soda

[vernal ibex]

Although depends on how hard it is to get treasures

[tepid imp]

cute, I let my kid play this game

[slate hinge]

Bsoda is for ppl who dont want to maul with sw

[tepid imp]

so they don't question their sexuality

[vernal ibex]

May not have time before SR

[vernal ibex]

Or use both and drop S Anis

[lucid finch]

wtf u have a kid?

[silk crypt]

[static hearth]

https://tenor.com/view/let-me-in-gif-13767303

[worldly dock]

Ok u know what

Laplace is now a pvp unit

She gets double regen now

[tepid imp]

3 nephews

[worldly dock]

Fyall

[lucid finch]

[worldly dock]

LAPLACE WILL GEt 2X ENERGY IN PVP THIS IS STUPID

Wait

No

1.5x

[drifting pagoda]

I tried to get my older nephew in, but he says its "too much" for him. The boy is 20

[silk crypt]

https://tenor.com/view/kurt-angle-thousand-yard-stare-stare-tiktok-wtf-gif-12206044702998985154

[tepid imp]

that's a red alert for me

[timber prism]

tbf my bf hates nikke cause he says its too much

[silk crypt]

damn

[worldly dock]

Laplace deals additional damage on Full Charge

But that wont trigger on cover

[vernal ibex]

Enjoy the update everyone. Work for two more hours

[silk crypt]

he might be a lost cause

[timber prism]

LMAO

[worldly dock]

So she will get 6 instead of 4 hits

Damn

[tepid imp]

game on yet?

[timber prism]

ive tried so hard to get him to play

he refuses

[tepid imp]

[timber prism]

[drifting pagoda]

Some Nikkes are too much, for sure. But definitely not all of them! Centi and Maxwell are pretty damn peak realistic bodies

[tepid imp]

look at how MT forces me to do

[timber prism]

hes like

[silk crypt]

just say he swings the other way

no harm

[timber prism]

i bet you’re playing that ass game again

[granite sorrel]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[oblique ravine]

Did maintenance just get extended?

Yea it did

[granite sorrel]

MAINTENANCE EXTENDED BY AN HOUR

[hushed zenith]

Oh no

[worldly dock]

ShiftUp: DEF DOWN UNIT BUFFING TRUE DAMAGE SMART AS FUCK

[glad kraken]

[timber prism]

he doesn’t much

[balmy night]

this

[vital hatch]

GEMS

PULLS

[glad kraken]

i was clicking and it started flickering between 1700 and 1800

[vital hatch]

compensation

[glad kraken]

[oblique ravine]

https://tenor.com/view/smart-brooklyn-nine-nine-jake-peralta-andy-samberg-intelligent-gif-15323617

[timber prism]

he’s bi but mostly likes girls

[silk crypt]

that still counts

[timber prism]

im bi and mostly like men but nikke

[frosty inlet]

they're gonna kneecap treasures, you guys got too hyped

[oblique ravine]

No jiyan? Smh

[silk crypt]

[frosty inlet]

saw laplace burst on the test server and pulled the plug

[granite sorrel]

to think i prepped food to eat while i pull

guess imma watch animoo instead

[silk crypt]

https://tenor.com/view/soldier-tf2-team-fortress2-animation-on-knees-gif-23507159

[timber prism]

I WANT MY FUCKING COLLECTIBLES

[balmy night]

mfkers have spies in this discord reporting what people were theorycrafting with the treasures kekw

[broken kindle]

wait you can refresh wake up with frima doing full charge on auto

[summer tulip]

SHIT

[timber prism]

first unit im slapping it onto is scalter

[summer tulip]

one more hour

[timber prism]

[broken kindle]

I'm stupid

[timber prism]

tho

[shut siren]

i think the last time they extended maintenance we didnt get compensation

[vital hatch]

https://fxtwitter.com/NIKKE_en/status/1600610768776470529

[timber prism]

maybe since its iron raid I should put it on red hood first

[shut siren]

[vital hatch]

[shut siren]

"we realized frima isnt good enough. buffing."

[timber prism]

compensation!!!

okay but like

tbf

we dont need everyone to be meta now with treasures

[shut siren]

people really want them to be meta

[timber prism]

frima can stay being shit, idc

[shut siren]

which i feel isnt the point

[timber prism]

or well

not shit

[broken kindle]

my laplace is core 4
and I have 670 silver mileage sooooo

[timber prism]

just more shit compared to the others

its fine if they all don’t get launched into meta

i think its good that they all become useable at least

so people can play their favs

[vital hatch]

There may be delays to the end time

i don't like how they say it

[umbral lantern]

an hour's extension

[cinder rune]

no wonder they delay it. So much features to jam inside one patch

[oblique ravine]

It’s ok they found out bunny soda is actually good so they’re “fixing” her

[oblique ravine]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1012288696336273428/1245208304800628756/lv_0_20240529105110.gif

[glad kraken]

yeah the patch was huge

[umbral lantern]

an hour's extension

[shut siren]

yes you said that already

[timber prism]

AAAA

I WANNA PULL

[shut siren]

so i wonder who's next in 2 months for a treasure

[oblique ravine]

Red hood

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1198944579001528430/1201297142950670387/PLAP_PLAP_PLAP_PLAP.gif

[shut siren]

cant believe it takes two months for this shit

slow ass devs

they can make four nikkes from scratch

but cant adjust one nikke in less time

[mint vessel]

It's been 6 hours without Nikke, I can’t stop shaking and I’m having severe mental breakdowns. I woke up today trying to log onto Nikke but the site was down, I had a major panic attack but managed to calm down after a few hours. I couldn’t go to school today, I am so worried that I even took my dad's gun from the shed, thinking of killing myself. I am nothing without Nikke, it is my life, it is my destiny, without Nikke, I wouldn't be able to do anything. Nikke is the best thing ever made and I can't get rid of my addiction to it, it is the best game in existence. Shivering in fear of losing my progress at my day streak at ASTD and Adopt Me. I am so scared that I might lose my mind and go insane. I want Nikke back.

[timber prism]

well its to give us breathing room

[static hearth]

I fell for it

[timber prism]

im sure they’re able to develop much faster

[static hearth]

Fuck

[shut siren]

while that would make sense for this first batch of 4, its 2 months every 1 favorite item.

[tepid imp]

wait

[subtle canyon]

1 more hr

[tepid imp]

where's the "I don't understand the hype for Laplace" paragraph

[fathom parcel]

they could

the reason why they do this so they didn't ran out of nikke, and ended up adding treasure for meta one

[grim merlin]

Hurry and make it yourself

[fathom parcel]

or limited like sneon

[tepid imp]

sr fam, farming Havoc Echo

[worldly dock]

Eunhwa

[shut siren]

they wont ever run out of mediocre nikkes. the game is full of them

[worldly dock]

Signal

[keen schooner]

https://fxtwitter.com/NIKKE_en/status/1796104636761587839

[fathom parcel]

they open for feedback still

[keen schooner]

actually real this time

[timber prism]

considering

that

[worldly dock]

Diesel is bad in a way that

[fathom parcel]

if it's too often or too long

[timber prism]

we have to get them through dispatch

[worldly dock]

she doesnt shine anywhere

Her kit is powerful

[timber prism]

i think that

[worldly dock]

But she doesnt work

[timber prism]

2 months is good

cause

[harsh sonnet]

HOLY SHIT CLAY IS NEXT

[timber prism]

you have to farm collectibles for other units too

[scenic sphinx]

don't forget to spend your LI coins before month end

[timber prism]

even if they’re not SSR

[lean cosmos]

https://tenor.com/view/31çeken-kurbağa-31-gif-24260161

[harsh sonnet]

damn... gonna have to skip

[shut siren]

dont skip. clay boost means easier to get her now than later

[fathom parcel]

tho, i wonder if they actually gonna add treasure for SR nikke

to increase their rarity all together

[shut siren]

i doubt it...

[fervent ingot]

I hope next year treasures can be acquired easier and then the update become 1 treasures per month too lol

[harsh sonnet]

i'm only not skipping if she's good.

[static hearth]

Unfortunately

[delicate magnet]

[worldly dock]

SW is in shambles

[dense cosmos]

Uhuh

[fleet flax]

I think the main SR rarity Counters might get something to link their SR to SSR via campaign progression later

[fathom parcel]

at least that should hold cdub going insane for a bit

[cinder rune]

https://tenor.com/view/violin-tiny-cute-gif-15898508

[shut siren]

what if every SR starts at 0 stars upon hitting SSR and you have to both roll a new copy of that SR and upgrade each one to SSR to get the first one more stars and cores

[keen schooner]

I want to roll

[timber prism]

same

GIMME SODAB

[shut siren]

boda

[shut siren]

https://tenor.com/view/dab-gif-26049198

[worldly dock]

Crown has a chance of joining SG team at this point

[lean cosmos]

imagine treasure got delayed for another 2 months

[vital hatch]

funny how shotgun team turns into 3 non-sg real quick