Limited alt is my bet
#The Eden
weary ivy
broken field
We'll find out next Tuesday I suppose
This is the immediate banner after trony right
shut siren
I'm thinking standard alts.
shut siren
This is the immediate banner after trony right
yes
scenic sphinx
FUCK
shut siren
so we'll be dripfed info until trony event ends
weary ivy
Limited alt is my bet
Lots of marketing + double alts + 3 week event with new map
scenic sphinx
PLS DON’T BE ATTACKER, I’M RUNNING OUT OF TETRA ATK GEARS
vital hatch
on top of that treasure is supposed to drop
broken field
Then summer event after? Rip gems
vital hatch
we're going to get a lot new
shut siren
summer was supposed to be after two weeks so yeah
and someone once suggested this is part 1 of summer. theyd be insane to cut their swimsuit profits in half
drowsy geyser
Speculation is that we don't get another two part summer event, only one summer part where the second half was. So there will be a short event in between.
shut siren
found the someone
drowsy geyser
Wasn't me, but I have heard it before
native slate
hmmm, that latest bunny teaser making me seriously consider kilo a possibility
shut siren
...
vital hatch
summer is plenty long
stark dagger
hmmm, that latest bunny teaser making me seriously consider kilo a possibility
Check her ahoge
shut siren
you're fucking with us right
vital hatch
after summer the next big event i think is collab
shut siren
horlof you're not being serious, right?
vital hatch
hmmm, that latest bunny teaser making me seriously consider kilo a possibility
i also said kilo like 20x
nobody listens
native slate
i am
shut siren
take it from me for the last time: its not kilo
drowsy geyser
It's Soda without question, for better or worse.
Likely Alice, unless someone is imitating her.
weary ivy
Its pretty obvious from the hair who it is
vital hatch
there's no good or bad about it
i know 1 nikke with green hair
you can actually see the green doesn't match
drowsy geyser
No one else has heart-shaped ahoge
vital hatch
new outfit
native slate
cant believe they reduced soda's tits by 75% this is so sad
shut siren
it was cropped out. relaaaaax
vital hatch
what's the opposite of inflation
native slate
cause no way that other teaser image was her tits 
native slate
oh i know
vital hatch
boobdeflation?
they do that stuff with food now
same price same package just less in it
no wonder her boobs shrunk
less calories
vital hatch
are you settled on treasure nikke?
shut siren
+15 tickets
native slate
yup
vital hatch
lucky 
native slate
are you settled on treasure nikke?
only need one more exia spare body
gonna spend my first collectibles on lappy
shut siren
only one I can get is laplace but I dont think these treasures will "fix" anyone. just slightly improve something but not enough. from least used to below average use
vital hatch
check out missilis tower
shut siren
signal has a higher usage rate
civic tendon
PLS DON’T BE ATTACKER, I’M RUNNING OUT OF TETRA ATK GEARS
I got 2 extra sets, I'm ready
shut siren
if signal isn't in this batch that means laplace is one of the least used characters in the game below signal
below aria
native slate
nah
shut siren
etc
cinder rune
Shit Up bruh ya don goof. Where elysion duo?
vital hatch
true
scenic sphinx
nah man, Balice gonna be support and Bsoda gonna be defender 
vital hatch
signal is very popular
native slate
they didnt use only usage rate to pick treasure lol
shut siren
Shit Up bruh ya don goof. Where elysion duo?
tetra duo for you
native slate
its definetly a factor but not the only thing
shut siren
nah man, Balice gonna be support and Bsoda gonna be defender <:kekw:100939463469...
balice and boda
civic tendon
nah man, Balice gonna be support and Bsoda gonna be defender <:kekw:100939463469...
my supporter still not a set
fathom parcel
i don't give a shit at this point
nothing can fix elysion
shut siren
its definetly a factor but not the only thing
didn't see em say anything else...
cinder rune
Tetra duo to replace OG bnnuy? This is criminal
shut siren
Tetra duo to replace OG bnnuy? This is criminal
theyll most likely only replace noir
median ore
how about another tetra duo coomander? A bunny duo even?
Very original and brave, mustang-san
cinder rune
theyll most likely only replace noir
Please no, I love Noir. To be reduced into metaless unit
fathom parcel
why you guys expecting a duo tho?
so far, non of the alt sync with each other
native slate
i gotta stop deploying signal, so she gets treasure
shut siren
Please no, I love Noir. To be reduced into metaless unit
noir was never particularly good. if Alice or soda show more potential shes gone. blanc only wants 777. not specifically noir
vital hatch
this is why i don't use kilo i'm helping eclipse out
cinder rune
All Bunny Team cmon let's go!
vital hatch
hahaha
shut siren
don't bother. I'm using kilo and epinel. even if epinel is bad she doesn't have lowest usage. guess why
civic tendon
let's use crow as throwaway in sp arena so that she won't get treasure
cinder rune
B1 bnnuy soda and B3 bnnuy alice
shut siren
let's use crow as throwaway in sp arena so that she won't get treasure
theyll think you love crow and give an alt
civic tendon
civic tendon
see you in 2050
cinder rune
crow deserves an alt anyway
Crow Preggo alt with shiki-cum
vital hatch
visiting crow with the homies errrday 
vital hatch
if anything
i have to give shift up credit for their mole consistency
that's the only thing they can be relied upon
every hired artist must be getting a list of 'mole here and there'
go wild
median ore
ass mole lore
cinder rune
So basically, Soda has another mole on her butt, gotta write that down
fathom parcel
she got mole,
but OG soda has mole on the back
not ass
bubba mentioned that yesterday
shut siren
she got mole,
but OG soda has mole on the back <:kekw:1009394634692247632>
different artist but still
vital hatch
i thought it was so far high up in game outfits didn't show it
shut siren
we know its around there
fathom parcel
.
https://algernonproduct.co.jp/nikke_goods/released-products/cate08.html
and yeah, it is official
vital hatch
where mole? take that sodists
fathom parcel
broken field
They can always just do first 2 weeks summer, then the next 2 weeks summer
native slate
i aint pulling even if meta
native slate
my savings way too low to pull for two units right before summer
vital hatch
you got plenty
fathom parcel
next event should give more tickets than usual 2 weeks event
vital hatch
they'll be there next year
native slate
i dont wanna wait till next year to get thenm
native slate
doubt bunnies are limited
fathom parcel
i'm confident with my off rate pull after all
vital hatch
I’m quitting
see you tomorrow
long imp
Great two more Tetra
This game needs more tetra
dense elbow
This game needs more tetra
long imp
TOTAL MUSTANG VICTORY
distant locust
At least it's coming back this yesr
civic tendon
game needs more abnormal so we can have abnormal tower
long imp
The game needs more Missilis
Nuh uh
I thought Bay was a supporter. The solution is to add more tetra supporter rocket nikke
long imp
I wonder if Last Kingdom took so long to come to spotify because they were trying to get the Indivilia song on the album, and failed
broken kindle
I wonder if Last Kingdom took so long to come to spotify because they were tryin...
Stupid Sony
fathom parcel
long imp
Also took me longer than I thought to realize Whisper (of fear) is just lowkey Absolute Maker
zinc quarry
It has all songs except for headless angel
Isnt headless the 2nd one?
zinc quarry
Oh i meant in the pic, but i guess its actually not in the album
broken field
I wonder if Last Kingdom took so long to come to spotify because they were tryin...
Why isn't the idivillia song on Spotify? Don't shift up own the copyright
zinc quarry
Sony owns it
long imp
Oh i meant in the pic, but i guess its actually not in the album
Yes that's that I said
long imp
Why isn't the idivillia song on Spotify? Don't shift up own the copyright
I would assume, publishers out of the convo, that queen bee owned the song that they made for Nikke, and not shift up
vital hatch
the right to put it on streaming media may not be in the terms
native slate
this comp makes hard mode such a joke
im literally just doing it on auto on a 100k cp diff
and a lot of the time when it cant do it on auto is cause there's suicides in the first wave so i just RH spam to get burst and then let it auto the rest of the level
vital hatch
25% is not hard mode
(some tryhard maybe)
almost perfect
just needs alice over sbs
craggy bone
static hearth
IT'S ALICE AND SODA I'M GIGA FUCKED 
hexed spire
normie standard bait shit
just put it on wishlist
unless u prefer really to fuck urself
hexed spire
no, summer is limited
north pumice
all banners are bait lol
hexed spire
ok, cry later when ur limited in lvl by synchro device
vital hatch
bait af
native slate
ok, cry later when ur limited in lvl by synchro device
scenic sphinx
we're kinda chilling with the current roster of dps and supports
scenic sphinx
if they repeat that shit for this year, I might just quit
native slate
unless you're a giga whale you never even getting close to synchro cap lmao
hexed spire
2y maybe but i saw u in the beginning here and still and the gap got smaller the last year
vital hatch
if they repeat that shit for this year, I might just quit
you don't want more meta?
i like that solo raid team 4-5 is switching up regularly
scenic sphinx
any meta atm would have to powercreep stuff like ass, modernia, xlud, rh, alice
or bunnies, liter, jk's etc
shit's gonna be wild
native slate
i want more niche impractical comps like SW
vital hatch
they could always make a new mechanic and make 25+ nikke for that simple mechanic
so if you don't have that you're not dmging the boss
scenic sphinx
no you don't, nothing worse than full investing in a 5 team setup only for it to be used rarely
vital hatch
hi3 did that with flying enemies it was a grounded game for years then suddenly whoops guys we're in the air now all your old shit don't work on these enemies
hexed spire
but horlof, niche aint earn u 10s of millions of $
native slate
sure it does
native slate
you gotta upgrade 5 units
vital hatch
they can make the new interception hard af but then have a few nikke to counter each boss
hexed spire
vital hatch
what is this girl shit
thorny sand
Alice and Soda huh
guess them getting (presumably) wishlistable alts frees up more of the limited summer slots
if they're same squad as blanc then goodbye Noir tho
long imp
just put it on wishlist
You say this, but they could shake up the bunny meta. Any 777 squad member will work with blanc.
Also wishlist on does so much if they turn out to be actually good
long imp
if they're same squad as blanc then goodbye Noir tho
Did someone say 
scenic sphinx
not really
long imp
We just had dazzling ntr, now we get 777 ntr
scenic sphinx
to replace noir you need one of two things:
-a 777 bunny that is b3 and does more than noir
-a 777 bunny that is b1 20s with cdr
2nd option is very unlikely
quasi dagger
Can you imagine 1 of them being burst 2 & WANTS to burst instead of letting you do it with Blanc? The horrors
long imp
Can you imagine 1 of them being burst 2 & WANTS to burst instead of letting you ...
Imagine them not letting you do it with blanc
The thing of nightmares
thorny sand
to replace noir you need one thing:
- a 777 whose skills are more useful than a small ATK buff and a max ammo/reload buff
Noir isn't even used for her B3
thorny sand
if their burst is either B1 with CDR or B3 and not utter garbage, it's a huge step up
but even a B2 with better skills can replace noir
long imp
thorny sand
If they're a 0.5, 1.5, or 2.5 then noir is just dead forever
dull cargo
I would love to see a 1.5 or a 2.5
quasi dagger
Translation: Maintain Burst Skills
long imp
scenic sphinx
noir also has burst gen just by being the last clip SG still being used in pve
thorny sand
anyone running a team with no (pierce) SR or RL in it has chosen suffering as far as burst gen goes
scenic sphinx
you say that but current bunnies setup usually is volume+blanc+noir+mod+1
thorny sand
I don't have mod so haven't tried it
thorny sand
but does that actually regen burst fast enough to match Volume?
dull cargo
That +1 is either Maxwell or Emilia
thorny sand
gotta say I'm still surprised how much Emilia has turned out to be the more meta choice from Re:Zero
use her so often
meanwhile Rem coping that summer gives another ATK RL
quasi dagger
Being listed in an attribute with basically no competition helps that
thorny sand
regardless, if Alice & Soda are both 777 like how maid privaty was a maid, then high chance that Noir is getting replaced
the bar isn't unreasonably high
one of the two should beat it
dull cargo
BUT they either have to be B3 or B1 with CDR
dull cargo
Anything other than that and it changes almost nothing
thorny sand
freeing Blanc from wasting a slot would be good yeah
brazen glen
INo way they nerf Soda in the character art 
we need another thicc bunny
thorny sand
but that just goes to show how low the bar is
I'd be shocked if an alt decreased cup size instead of increasing
just look at privaty
or ludmilla
or D
scenic sphinx
b1 cdr is kinda cool, rem/novel can go back in the game with 5 b1 cdr's in play
thorny sand
or Sanis tbh
quasi dagger
Can somewhat add Neon to that, & yeah, I was going to slightly bring up Anis
dull cargo
Would you sacrifice a potential B3 buffer for B2 that will be there just for blanc's reduced cooldown? Heck no . Unless that B2 gives passive buffs like naga
thorny sand
a B2 CDR would be at least free Blanc from a CDR B1 which could be intersting
scenic sphinx
native slate
a B2 CDR would be at least free Blanc from a CDR B1 which could be intersting
no way blanc gets benched
thorny sand
huh
stark dagger
Noir benched 100%
thorny sand
in this situation you run Blanc & B2 CDR Bunny lol
dull cargo
No one is benching Blanc
native slate
oh ok
thorny sand
like how some people run Dolla even though they don't use her burst, purely for the CDR lol
in team 5 shenanigans
stark dagger
Now we have 4 b1 cdr
dull cargo
S.helm works like that
stark dagger
Dolla benched
dull cargo
But her kit is GOATED when useful
stark dagger
Cause SHelm better buff
thorny sand
Dolla benched until we get good B1 who don't have CDR tbh
scenic sphinx
only against iron weak raids bruv
dull cargo
Yup super niche but extremely good at it
thorny sand
we don't have a 20s B1 with Liter level buffs and no CDR for example
which is what Dolla needs to justify her existence
Miranda doesn't cut it
thorny sand
my point is that even if you took the CDR out of the best B1 Nikke, they'd still top the tierlist
which shows how garbage the no-CDR B1 all are
native slate
Miranda doesn't cut it
Miranda only exists to lick snow white's feet
thorny sand
CDR B2 would be more relevant to teambuilding if we had a B1 with better buffs than Liter but no CDR
native slate
CDR B2 would be more relevant to teambuilding if we had a B1 with better buffs t...
thats tove
scenic sphinx
thats tove
quasi dagger
I still question her existence
native slate
tove's buffs are insane
dull cargo
Yeah, if only it wasn't a gacha inside a gacha
scenic sphinx
5% bullshit every 3 seconds vs 15% bullshit every 30 seconds (sw crits)
dull cargo
They need to either increase it's probability or make it hit count based
thorny sand
Tove is like Rem, great kit but too niche and limited by the lack of a truly meta B3 DPS who fits it
if maid privaty didn't need Leona to truly shine she'd be better off
quasi dagger
They need to either increase it's probability or make it hit count based
I wanted it hard numbers, that 5% bullshit on Tove was not a good deal & I would've taken 20 hits in 5 seconds over 5% bullshit
thorny sand
if we had a second Emilia then Volume/Rem/Emilia/Emilia 2/Flex would go pretty hard as a team 4
and if we had three Emilias....
quasi dagger
Imagine being able to use a Nikke from your friends list as an assist in raids
native slate
if maid privaty didn't need Leona to truly shine she'd be better off
leona isnt that bad, problem is shotgun comp completely lacks heals or cdr
thorny sand
maid privaty's issue is that she needs both Tove and Leona, and as you said they don't provide heals or CDR
so unless we magically get the perfect flex slot 5 CDR who never bursts but offers either damage or buffs.....
quasi dagger
Which cripples the team
quasi dagger
so unless we magically get the perfect flex slot 5 CDR who never bursts but offe...
& this is interesting. A healer CDR that enhances attack damage by just being there, & works like Pepper in the instance of buff retention (increasing the duration of Buffs by nearly 40%) which will skyrocket the use of someone like Tove
native slate
problem with leona is her pellet gimmick only affects privm
thorny sand
Honestly maid privaty just needs a Sakura who is less niche
native slate
if it worked for other units
quasi dagger
Pepper would increase the stacks, but the 3 seconds is still there.
This will increase the retention, giving you a longer period for Tove to hit the next stack
thorny sand
And more damage or heal oriented instead of the trash that is defense
civic tendon
I thought Bay was a supporter. The solution is to add more tetra supporter rocke...
biscuit
quasi dagger
I just inadvertently solved Privaty's problem with the buff retention thing, not needing Tove at all.
quasi dagger
That's stack count, not buff retention.
But yeah, Pepper becomes Anis & I loved every second of that lol
quasi dagger
pepper dps in raids
I had that with coop a few times, watching my Pepper out-damage some other attacker Nikkes was just silly. Put it on a iron elemental boss, I was rolling in the wins lol
quasi dagger
pepper treasure adds cdr
That happens, my 4 body Pepper would be thrilled. As my highest CP Nikke too, I would love having her out there (not like I already enjoy her out there in campaign anyway)
quasi dagger
......... Get out lmao how you knew my Dorothy was right behind her‽
civic tendon
I didn't, just thinking in doro sanis priv comp pepper with cdr would also work
which I cook sometimes
before marci was a thing
quasi dagger
Oh……well, that would be fantastic. 1 second each time she emptied her magazine would be so much better
stark dagger
I didn't, just thinking in doro sanis priv comp pepper with cdr would also work
Oh, you don’t know Biscuit
civic tendon
Oh, you don’t know Biscuit
I do but lower dmg in my acc so I can't use the comp
most of the time priv dedge
ya know bricc sanis comp
oblique ravine
<a:birbnoirbaguette:1209795507866570822>
Is there a gif version of this
stark dagger
most of the time priv dedge
That build require you to stock atk stat on sanis to outweight the atk stat dif
Mine is that case so boss always attack her
civic tendon
That build require you to stock atk stat on sanis to outweight the atk stat dif
my sanis only elem
then chrg spd chrg dmg
long imp
Is there a gif version of this
Yeah there's gif versions of all the birb emotes in the birb server
oblique ravine
Yeah there's gif versions of all the birb emotes in the birb server
show me the way please, i see too many bird servers
signal cloak
Wait I’m slow
amber shadow
vital hatch
Yesnt
oblique ravine
gusty leaf
New unit
amber shadow
Are the bunnies gonna be a skin or a “new” unit
Interesting question,which i dont have an answer
gusty leaf
There is no way a lore abt them both to coin rush for a skin
amber shadow
Is gonna be a skin,like viper and rupie
gusty leaf
Impossible lol
signal cloak
amber shadow
i mean 50/50
amber shadow
What was the official fan art with the bunny girls with crown and chime?
amber shadow
yes thank you
amber shadow
long imp
This is the roadmap
long imp
show me the way please, i see too many bird servers
Alright sent
dull cargo
dull cargo
I just realized that bunny Alice has pink hair
Remember how we thought it wasn't her because of the skin tone?
signal cloak
White
https://tenor.com/view/nikke-alice-dizzy-swirl-eyes-goddess-of-victory-nikke-gif-5502471567027618920
Pinkish white
topaz plover
its got hints of pink
dull cargo
Silver-pink
signal cloak
Remember how we thought it wasn't her because of the skin tone?
That’s fair
signal cloak
Nah because Black Ranger when
amber shadow
Atleast having indivilia as a unit will make sense
signal cloak
I don’t care if she heals the raptures
amber shadow
thanks to the new queen
signal cloak
I’m still pulling
amber shadow
wtf is is this
Is official lore
mint heath
remote vault
static hearth
modern flower
static hearth
https://tenor.com/view/yell-gopher-kit-gif-14542575
"There is no kit in Ba Sing Se"
hexed spire
What is wrong with u guys wanting the kit? We don't even have the faces yet
long imp
<@93680424605200384>
oblique ravine
<@93680424605200384>
Do they purposefully do this? Or is this intern kun picking the first Google image hit
topaz plover
Do they purposefully do this? Or is this intern kun picking the first Google ima...
for what?
long imp
I imagine there’s more flattering images of crown lmao
that is the most flattering image of crown
oblique ravine
topaz plover
long imp
topaz plover
would be better if he used that one
but they probably searched for crown and only used her base look
oblique ravine
would be better if he used that one
Exactly
long imp
hmmmm, pilgrim syuen?
static hearth
<@93680424605200384>
Voiced Yui
Automatically a goated VA
long imp
static hearth
She was the reason why I switched to JP, JP Crown voice makes me feel comforted.
native slate
i always used JP cause im a filthy weeb
vital hatch
if i don't have it on eng how could i mock it? i want to know what i'm talking about so dub it is
and it's nice to appreciate the rare good en va
long imp
erm, it's actually "K-On!"
long imp
quasi dagger
I can't find myself watching K-On. Not really my thing.
long imp
I watched the first season and I think like 2 episodes of K-On!!
I do own the omnibus and one day I'll get around to reading it
long imp
the last I watched was Little Witch Academia two days ago
slender tinsel
Cheering on participants sounds weird… isn’t this a spin on a match replay button for curious people to tap?
slender tinsel
<@93680424605200384>
Crown is being like, “What, I’m on a VA’s featured roles gallery?!”
topaz plover
What
meager pendant
Or did he just ctrl c, v the old info?
its old info
hexed spire
I see
tepid imp
Lv 80 and lv 800
Stat are same in %
But gears will play the god role
A lv 80 nake will do 0 dmg to full ol lv 5 char
But a lv 800 cares shit about your ol unless it contains atk%
vital hatch
lvl 80 would be a lot more f2p friendleh
but no f2p would win make no mistake hahaha
slender tinsel
What if they do it like Scope Lock in shooting range?
All Champion Arena teams are Scope Locked… RIP
20 ammo Scarlet. We’re back in the dark ages
vital hatch
boring
hexed spire
Do u guys think treasures will magically transform a normie unit into a meta pilgrim?
quasi dagger
the last I watched was Little Witch Academia two days ago
The 1 I'm currently watching now is The Witch & The Beast & A Sign Of Affection. Whiplash lol
slender tinsel
Treasures cooked:
- 1st copy randomly obtained from Dispatch or Silver Mileage
- Upgrade available after another 1 copy of treasure along with having 30 bond rank for character
- 4 more copies to max stars (5 stars) and unlock enhanced bonuses at each star
- Odds of obtaining treasure over a month of dispatches: 1 copy of 1 specific treasure
- Silver mileage cost to purchase a specific treasure’s copy: 600 silver mileage
- Silver mileaged copies cannot be used to acquire/“recruit” initial treasure
meager pendant
Treasures cooked:
- 1st copy randomly obtained from Dispatch or Silver Mileage
-...
honestly add to this that treasures have RNG stats
vital hatch
if they are mid who cares all skip cya later
meager pendant
and thats why we need to obtain so much
vital hatch
they make the ultimate system to squeeze people out of their resources and then the nikke are gonna be dogshit?
waste of dev time waste of potential wtf are people doing over there at shift up
hexed spire
if they want to make money
Ofc, treasures exist now to please stock holders
slender tinsel
At least they weren’t talking about adding a new pull resource and a new banner type
quasi dagger
These treasures should cover the Weaknesses & enhance abilities of the Nikkes. Not give them completely new stuff that………may or may not fit. I'm still curious about Frima. Honestly, what's she going to do?
slender tinsel
Imagine to max you now need 11 copies of character from one banner and 6 or more copies of treasure on another banner
hexed spire
These treasures should cover the Weaknesses & enhance abilities of the Nikkes. N...
Dmg
She is going to do dmg
vital hatch
people are just afraid of treasures
quasi dagger
…………………I'm not even going to reply to that
hexed spire
If u didn't realize, every stage has a time limit so dmg is very important
topaz plover
…………………I'm not even going to reply to that
dont
slender tinsel
These treasures should cover the Weaknesses & enhance abilities of the Nikkes. N...
We just don’t know what they’ll ultimately do… if it’s things like +N% then okay. +20% ammo, +20% atk, +20% ele dmg…
quasi dagger
people are just afraid of treasures
I'm curious. I want to know what they're going to do.
topaz plover
These treasures should cover the Weaknesses & enhance abilities of the Nikkes. N...
they previously said that they are not going to make treasures change the way the unit plays, but more enhance their current abilities and skills to make them more viable
slender tinsel
But if it’s new mechanics like Frima can heal entire team every 3rd full charge shot… and her Burst now also buffs team ATK by 40%…
vital hatch
I'm curious. I want to know what they're going to do.
they can easily flop at launch lets be real seasonal limited flopped for a while
until sanis
now seasonal limits can be sss tier
meager pendant
What if
quasi dagger
We just don’t know what they’ll ultimately do… if it’s things like +N% then okay...
Stuff like this I can really see. But that's going to limit what they can inject in the Nikkes, making them not really all that different, like what @topaz plover added to his reply. @vital hatch has a point of a fearful flop & that's waste so much hype on these things effectively making the Nikkes worthless to want to grow more
grim merlin
Nah, XRupee treasure first
meager pendant
SANIS deserves more
grim merlin
quasi dagger
Anis should've been Missilis with how much power she has in her gun
topaz plover
Stuff like this I can really see. But that's going to limit what they can inject...
exactly, if they try to stay true to their word of not changing their fundamental kit, then its gonna be extremely difficult to make treasures actually worth looking forward to after the first batch are released
quasi dagger
Unless you're Alice, Anis is way too damn good to be a Tetra Nikke
topaz plover
and then its just going to become a new redundant system that no one cares about
sand vale
wdym tetra has the best nikkes overall
slender tinsel
Best hope we can have is that they want to use treasures to bring old characters up to par with meta Nikkes
topaz plover
because, lets be honest we basically have 4 teams for SR and maybe a shitty 5th
slender tinsel
Though I don’t know well they can do it or for how long they can keep doing that well
vital hatch
i'm confidant treasure will be very a very important system over time
topaz plover
the only way treasure units can become viable is if they are used for tower pushing or they can fit into SR teams
vital hatch
unless you don't care about raids and don't care about pvp
some ya'll give no fucks lol
topaz plover
if they fail to reach SR level of power then its just a wasted treasure
quasi dagger
exactly, if they try to stay true to their word of not changing their fundamenta...
5500000% agreed right here. We already have holes that can be filled with things that could effectively make certain Nikkes absolutely wanted in different places, instead of running the same team for everything.
The main problem is the additions & making it worth all the wait
slender tinsel
Old Frima = bench
- treasure
New Frima = competing with bunnies, schoolgirls, Liter, Dorothy, Volume
That kind of possibility
vital hatch
you mentioned characters who are tiers apart
topaz plover
Old Frima = bench
+ treasure
New Frima = competing with bunnies, schoolgirls, L...
this makes no sense, if it has this level of power, then just make a frima alt??
sand vale
or it could do nothing for her and she's still confined to the bench
grim merlin
I mean…. Didn’t they say that Frima treasure had something to do with True dmg effectivness?
sand vale
just as well anyway because that's where she'd like to be
grim merlin
How many units do true dmg
topaz plover
why release something for free that rivals these units if you can release it as a banner and make money
topaz plover
its a gacha company first of all
vital hatch
every character is free in theory
topaz plover
you just need to have the setup
vital hatch
lol
sand vale
it's free like liberation is free
vital hatch
bruh
slender tinsel
you mentioned characters who are tiers apart
Yes, I was mentioning a possibility… players would then be incentivized to pull for or make use of, Frima, instead of leaving her out of wishlist for as long as possible and praying that they don’t “luck” draw her as off-banner
Either way, that’s likely the upper limit of how far they’ll take treasure.. it’s going to land somewhere between barely helpful and that “wtf why is Frima meta now?”
quasi dagger
You can take some Nikkes, like healers that are 40 seconds for example, cutting the burst timer in half, & that'll alleviate some issues with teams.
topaz plover
it doesnt make sense logically why shiftup would release a treasure that rivals our top units currently
vital hatch
it does when you consider the cost
topaz plover
the cost of what
topaz plover
im saying that if a unit with treasure becomes as strong as bunnies, dwife etc, they are better off making her into a banner unit instead
why? because they are a gacha company
slender tinsel
Hmm does this mean treasures are for units they have no intentions of making alters for?
sand vale
they can afford to diversify revenue sources
quasi dagger
A burst 1 healer wouldn't usurp Blanc & many would be livid if Blanc is suddenly benched
sand vale
don't think that's related
slender tinsel
Or… will they allow treasures be shared between alters of the same character? 
vital hatch
Hmm does this mean treasures are for units they have no intentions of making alt...
currently no treasures have alts
topaz plover
Hmm does this mean treasures are for units they have no intentions of making alt...
doesnt stop them from making alters
grim merlin
I mean depending on what skill Exia treasure effects it could actually mean something
sand vale
but that might delay alts
as in you wouldn't want to have alts releasing close to treasures being released for the og unit
alt units might also get their own treasures
vital hatch
treasures are a fantastic way to close the gap between all elemental teams
sand vale
god knows neon needs one
topaz plover
only good treasure i can see being good is diesels, laplace is too shit with her true damage and the "enhance to true damage" or whatever treasure line doesn't sound good
slender tinsel
Didn’t they mention a VERY slow release cycle for treasures?
vital hatch
we have 5 elements? we don't have 25 competent nikke of all elements
slender tinsel
Like 6 a year or something
quasi dagger
You wouldn't share the same item between variants & originals sadly
vital hatch
Didn’t they mention a VERY slow release cycle for treasures?
2 months per
slender tinsel
There’s no way they can keep up with the SSR pool like that…
topaz plover
unless laplace treasure is something like dealing additional damage proportional to her atk as extra true, idfk
vital hatch
but 4 at launch
sand vale
they let players vote on the freq didn't they
topaz plover
they let players vote on the freq didn't they
wasnt the frequency the same for all of the choices anyways lol?
sand vale
no there was one that was slower or faster than the rest
slender tinsel
Yeah, it was more about the release timing of them
sand vale
2 of them came out to the same freq
slender tinsel
Like 2 now this month, 2 next, or store them and let them go at same time in 2 months - the total’s same, 4
vital hatch
1 per 2 months
quasi dagger
god knows neon needs one
Blue Ocean Neon needs an entire kit reconstruction. Her thing is absolute garbage
slender tinsel
1 per 2 months
Yeah, too slow to keep up
sand vale
it's really the burst that needs fixing
the elemental damage ramp up I can live with
and the stupid thing is shiftup already fixed it once
and it's still bad
quasi dagger
only good treasure i can see being good is diesels, laplace is too shit with her...
Honestly, with how much they love putting Diesel up front, I'm pretty sure they're not going to bullshit with their Strawberry Princess
sand vale
diesel just really likes kids and nikke is a 12+ game
vital hatch
disel gets all the skins
sand vale
that all have the same poses and animations
vital hatch
does she get the meta adjustment she needs?
sand vale
where's the $60 diesel skin
grim merlin
disel gets all the skins
a cheap skin and a free recolor
Peak
And a recent dress
vital hatch
we need to demand that $60 treatment
quasi dagger
does she get the meta adjustment she needs?
Taunt retention, additional damage Assimilation, something like that
sand vale
oh great taunt for longer so she can die faster
vital hatch
since pvp team 4-5 are dogwhater
grim merlin
Diesel treasure: enhancement to Taunt and survival ability, increase of damage enhancing buff
vital hatch
they can give some love there
sand vale
so the treasure will actually brick her
grim merlin
As per February dev note
topaz plover
Honestly, with how much they love putting Diesel up front, I'm pretty sure they'...
diesel with the 4236th skin and her being in every artwork humanly possible
quasi dagger
so the treasure will actually brick her
Problem is you need to out right kill her. If you're doing chip damage, Diesel will heal more than your damaging her
vital hatch
anyone know what element diesel is off the top?
quasi dagger
Machine Gun Wind Elemental Pattern-99 type equipment (Defender)
topaz plover
anyone know what element diesel is off the top?
wind
grim merlin
These were the treasure description given in February
● Laplace: enhancement to true damage
● Diesel: enhancement to Taunt and survival ability, increase of damage enhancing buff
● Frima: enhancement to EFF of true damage
● Exia: expansion and enhancement of applicable targets
vital hatch
what does true dmg mean?
vital hatch
new mechanic?
sand vale
means it can't be reduced with any other mechanic
grim merlin
Been a mechanic since Laplace
quasi dagger
Damage that voids the defence of the target, dealing true Pierce damage
sand vale
it deals the damage it says it deals
vital hatch
if they play into that hard as a new thing it could be significant
make 1 sr boss very sturdy and then never again
bait
quasi dagger
Damage that voids defence would be significant, if done well
sand vale
well they have to design a unit that actually needs that mechanic to beat
topaz plover
remember they cant completely change how her kit works so at most you will see some minor extra bonuses and number tweaks
sand vale
I'd like lap's burst to not be just 5s tbh
or just make her reduce burst time to 5s
as it is now you get a 5s imma firin my lazor and then 5s of nothing
vital hatch
they don't have to change any nikke as much as they have to change an enemy to require true dmg
or invent a new one
topaz plover
laplace alt would go crazy
make her go super crazy with lazer or true dmg idfc
make true dmg viable
sand vale
who else even deals true damage again
topaz plover
who else even deals true damage again
isnt it just laplace lol
sand vale
frima doesn't actually do that atm
grim merlin
who else even deals true damage again
Uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuh
quasi dagger
I actually think a Laplace variant will not change her weapon. Just only her elemental type
vital hatch
crow
grim merlin
vital hatch
just kidding
sand vale
so what's the enhancement to true dmg eff even for frima
vital hatch
crow's kit is 3x blanc
sand vale
she doesn't have any to begin with
topaz plover
i think they realised how shit true damage really is so they never released a character with it
sand vale
so the treasure is bait, it do nothing
quasi dagger
Bay was release & forget she existed
quasi dagger
Elegg, I mean she wasn't all that much but I think the art speaks for itself lol
topaz plover
She still exists in pixiv and nsfw stuff
not as much as egg
quasi dagger
She still exists in pixiv and nsfw stuff
…………………no comment
quasi dagger
not as much as egg
Elegg is a different existence lol
vital hatch
is there like a 'total count' of a character on pixiv?
modern flower
not as much as egg
Bay has a 10 mins video
vital hatch
can we search the most popular nikke?
topaz plover
Bay has a 10 mins video
OH YEA
modern flower
topaz plover
i have that shit saved and im not allowed to post it in #cummander-zone because its paid content
sand vale
huh what's that
vital hatch
its xxx
sand vale
who's the artist
quasi dagger
can we search the most popular nikke?
Anis is definitely no contest highest drawn Nikke. Elegg exploded & she's still exploding………lol
modern flower
what makes elegg so popular
Tummy
topaz plover
I've got the subtitles version
so do i
quasi dagger
1 is the fact many don't need to draw her eyes is a common factor. Tummy is another reason to it
vital hatch
it helps that she's a fun character but i guess you don't draw personality
quasi dagger
Thing is no matter how you draw her, she bleeds personality because she's so approachable
sharp glade
what makes elegg so popular
elseggs
topaz plover
modern flower
The best part is that she is not meta but hell useful in raids
fuck ele shield dude
I wanna use my elegg everywhere
chilly wren
long imp
alright done with that, back to nikke
distant galleon
alright done with that, back to nikke
You're not a true Dark Souls Master, until all 3 games are 100% 
long imp
You're not a true Dark Souls Master, until all 3 games are 100% <:KEKL:100834807...
in due time, I've gotten the platinum on ds1 twice so
long imp
also I am best at ds1/dsr so it shouldn't take too long, I was already like 90% the way there in-game
fading bone
Alice and Soda bunny girls 📈
long imp
native slate
i got 2 rocks
oblique ravine
congrats on the crit rate and def up
shut siren
lol
long imp
alright, time to not open this until crown comes out so I can get a R nikke still 
shut siren
thats the spirit
heady gate
alright, time to not open this until crown comes out so I can get a R nikke stil...
Sweet sr
delicate magnet
pinne will appear as the true goddess of victory from this mold
shut siren
yeah japan likes her quite a bit too
not as much as elegg but surprising how much art of tove showed up
long imp
canon
heady gate
So saggy it makes her breasts appear smaller
shut siren
if thats sagging then i wonder what will happen when gravity is actually applied
long imp
instead of ber boobs spilling out, they're being crushed
topaz plover
the dress up darling one...
meager pendant
look at these thumbnails
The bocchi one is WAY worse
and the Bocchi and Marin one dont appear in the video
topaz plover
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5eKC2FRpcw
oh my goodness
topaz plover
I am noting the ones you clicked
AIGHT LISTEN
grim merlin
I am noting the ones you clicked
He likes bunny’s
long imp
Instantly improved
native slate
crown s2 should be level 9 in 6 days
topaz plover
this one is so good
long imp
this one is so good
topaz plover
LMFAO
long imp
some of these are truly
meager pendant
Instantly improved
huh
how is that improved
i dont know who that guy is
but needs to be reomoved
long imp
oh there is a nikke one
long imp
i dont know who that guy is
long imp
neither have I
meager pendant
i think he is a good guy that does nice things for people and gets attacked for the nice things he does
but I am not the target audience
shut siren
yeah he's just a clickbait youtuber who does the wacky expressions and shit
long imp
my favorite one is the canon which lines up with someones face a LOT
shut siren
im sure he does good things but he's a hype man and that gets made fun of
meager pendant
yeah he's just a clickbait youtuber who does the wacky expressions and shit
i wouldnt say clickbait. he does a LOT of real giveaways and charities
shut siren
he's also the picture of controversy not because of what he does but because he's so insanely popular and known for giving things away his face is used in a lot of online scams
meager pendant
The issues I have is when he donated to help blind people see and Twitter SJW attacked him for "using blind people for clickbait"
shut siren
youtube pushes scams with his face on them as part of their ads very often
long imp
it just works
meager pendant
literally disgusting that they attack him for him doing shit
shut siren
i wouldnt say clickbait. he does a LOT of real giveaways and charities
i use clickbait to describe his thumbnails. not the content. ive already made it clear i know he does good things
meager pendant
i use clickbait to describe his thumbnails. not the content. ive already made it...
i havent not seen a real video of his at all
long imp
wait so if they have an event field for the new bunny event what is the minigame going to be
meager pendant
wait so if they have an event field for the new bunny event what is the minigame...
Pin the tail on the Bunny :3
long imp
I'm gonna bet a spin off of the laplace/volt game
long imp
Pin the tail on the Bunny :3
okay that would be peak
shut siren
save it for the two summers
long imp
when was the last event field that didn't have a minigame?
shut siren
to be fair all those event fields were anniversaries, seasonals, and collabs. this one is abnormal
if there was any time to break a trend itd be now
shut siren
no. its not.
meager pendant
We. do not know.
shut siren
theyd be stupid to cut their summer swimsuit profits in half
long imp
if it is we'll find out soon
shut siren
absolutely stupid
meager pendant
Bunnies are EXTREMELY popular
shut siren
not as big as swimsuits
long imp
meager pendant
It wont cut their profits in half
we just need to see what their plans are
and if they do bunnies and do annual bunny alters
meager pendant
people are going to be EXCITED
shut siren
i do remember the last time this was said about maid privaty
and it ended up being the lowest profit month. granted, 10 mil isnt anything to laugh about
meager pendant
I dont know that it will be Limited though due to them not pushing an SR
meager pendant
and it ended up being the lowest profit month. granted, 10 mil isnt anything to ...
Because Privaty was not limited
shut siren
not all limited banners do great
meager pendant
so people saved her to tandard
gusty leaf
When is next information expected? Tomorrow? About event, alt char?
meager pendant
Yeah and so far the only Swimsuit that did crazy was Sanis
long imp
When is next information expected? Tomorrow? About event, alt char?
right now
vital hatch
right here
meager pendant
so out of 4 Swimsuits
shut siren
When is next information expected? Tomorrow? About event, alt char?
tonight for event reveal. subsequent days for usual stuff
meager pendant
Only ANis did
vital hatch
we debating wether we should cut summer or nah
long imp
right here
right now
meager pendant
the rest did good cause Limited
vital hatch
who is in favor of less summer say i
meager pendant
we debating wether we should cut summer or nah
not whether they should, whether they will do bunnies for part 1
gusty leaf
Where can i see?
meager pendant
Remember, Summer was NOT originally 2 events
mint heath
I mean i know the name but i have never watched a video
Never seen one either and really dont care too
shut siren
devs said golden ship was put between the two summers because of kraken's development issues. they never said nya nya paradise was never meant to be there too. sounds like it was meant to be two parts
meager pendant
devs said golden ship was put between the two summers because of kraken's develo...
No, Sanis and SHelm were not in the original scope
long imp
last summer got 4 limited nikke and 6 costumes, so we have good odds on your fav nikke getting a swimsuit this year.
gusty leaf
Only at X will be maked known rn?
meager pendant
somewhere, due to popularity, Anis was added.
vital hatch
but i'm not convinced that they are going back to their original plan now either
long imp
somewhere, due to popularity, Anis was added.
and they teased us with her (and sugar's) absense in pt1
meager pendant
and they teased us with her (and sugar's) absense in pt1 <:BlancANGY:11274175926...
yes. by then it was planned
shut siren
sugar was too busy in bed with sixo
meager pendant
but we dont know when they changed plans
As it stands, there are a LOT of people that want more bunny girls
long imp
okay, so if we are getting Soda and Alice bunny, who else will we get costumes of?
meager pendant
Lets just wait to see what Shift up is cooking, because by last year's standard, Summer Part 1 was the event after this
shut siren
no clue
vital hatch
why not summer p1 p2 again there's lots of time they got to fill
granite sorrel
plz dont fuck up soda this time...
shut siren
they could just give more bunny suits to their squadmates
which... would be boring. but eh
long imp
cuz there was no correlation between viper and rupee last time
gusty leaf
okay, so if we are getting Soda and Alice bunny, who else will we get costumes o...
Mission pass is later
meager pendant
They are already doing something new
vital hatch
collab time is october or something?
meager pendant
collab time is october or something?
unknown
granite sorrel
yes
granite sorrel
can fit a lot in that
like these nut
mint heath
plz dont fuck up soda this time...
granite sorrel
vital hatch
yeah urs small
meager pendant
We did
Overzone
Bunnies
Rosanna
Summer 1
This year
Crown
Trony
BUNNIES Field Event
SUPPOSED TO BE SUMMER
So this MIGHt replace summer 1
once we see if they are limited banners or not
vital hatch
we also get treasure
vital hatch
guess treasure comes with bunnies
shut siren
no they wont
meager pendant
yes they will lol
shut siren
two gacha skins didnt upset anyone
native slate
meager pendant
yes it did lol
shut siren
not enough
meager pendant
there were whole feedback about it in main cord
granite sorrel
yeah urs small
i dunno meng, pretty big if u ask me
long imp
So this MIGHt replace summer 1
I'm more willing to bet that this just pushes back summer and we will get summer 2 in place of the second collab of the year, and get the collab after 2nd anni
shut siren
you mean the publicity stunt discord they dont listen to?
vital hatch
i dunno meng, pretty big if u ask me
big for a midget
meager pendant
I'm more willing to bet that this just pushes back summer and we will get summer...
and that is a high possibility
grim merlin
there were whole feedback about it in main cord
That was not nearly as popular as the one just for the Modernia skin
meager pendant
you mean the publicity stunt discord they dont listen to?
JP Discord was the same disapproval
and they whale more than us