The Eden

[oblique ravine]

[jagged shard]

like I just could NOT do that shit at a certain deficit

[oblique ravine]

Die before level begins

[jagged shard]

esp since I had no like
doro shit
or even scarlet for insta wipe

[oblique ravine]

Why mald for a pilgrim idoll sun?

[jagged shard]

literally the only way I was able to get past whale was subbing RH for Lil' Snow

[vital hatch]

because he's cucked by 22 Nihi

[jagged shard]

which is fucking crazy

[tepid imp]

yeah, need 401 for both

so, 11 more levels which is probably 1.5 months

Nikke becomes idle game for a while

[vital hatch]

any ref for doro timing to kill the mobs in c21 whale ?

[oblique ravine]

When wasn’t it

[tepid imp]

I use Liter

Liter Crown Alice Red Mod

farm 8 parts and gtfo

[vital hatch]

what cp did you beat it ?

[tepid imp]

423k I think?

around that

[vital hatch]

during 3rd burst cycle i always 1-2 sec short for mod burst

[tepid imp]

you can try cosplaying Yanni

395k

that's a fucking shame to me

[vital hatch]

i follow that video

[tepid imp]

he just spitted on my face

and I couldn't do anything but cry

[oblique ravine]

[vital hatch]

he spitted on all of us

[jagged shard]

y'all look closely
my entire team died but I died like .00001 sec after the enemy did so it just worked out

silly time

[long imp]

We're back

Nikke doku community once again playing itself. "People will surely pick this nikke so I will pick another "

Least common fire attacker ||alice||

[topaz plover]

is this like a daily bingo style guessing game you guys always do?

[long imp]

Yes

[topaz plover]

imagine if shiftup woke up and actually started putting these kinds of minigames and giving rewards

lmfao

[stark dagger]

You have to hide the poll

[topaz plover]

wdym

everyone gets the same thing?

[supple raft]

chats the element for the ch 29-30

[inner pawn]

electric iirc

[supple raft]

still ele ?

wow

[inner pawn]

nvm it's wind

so fire weak

[supple raft]

oh

free chapters for alice mod

[jagged shard]

ooooh this looks fun

let my brainrot take over tbh

(totally didn't copy that first slot cuz I didn't understand at first and just figured get this one out the way)

[subtle canyon]

No one gonna believe this

[inner pawn]

oh the boss is ele weak

thats why I got confused

[craggy bone]

Does nikke bring in more money than stellar blade?

I’m assuming live service games do

[subtle canyon]

Sure OFC, it should be that way but I see SU put more effort in SB than Nikke.

[valid juniper]

Different teams AND different publishers my guy

[subtle canyon]

same developer, no?

[valid juniper]

Different teams. Being the same developer doesn't mean anything.

It'd be like asking the team that makes Etrian Odyssey to make a numbered Persona game. That shit ain't happening

[jagged shard]

ye like Mario and Zelda are both developed by Nintendo but not necessarily the same teams for example

[tepid imp]

iirc

SB sold 80k copies in JP alone

dunno about other regions

[valid juniper]

Not to mention it's their first console game with a gigantic budget behind it. Of course they'd want to show off more. Lies of P aside, they'd be showing that Korea can do more than just gacha games.

[jagged shard]

there's overlap in some areas, but it's not the same team

[tepid imp]

now you multiply it with 70$

and Nikke made 750m now

[valid juniper]

Exactly

[swift shoal]

wasnt this obvious from the very beginning or am i seeing things

[subtle canyon]

I will consider that 100+ employee are included janitor.

[valid juniper]

Now that Stellar Blade and Nikke are known hits I'm sure their next gacha game will be even bigger. Will Nikke be left in the dust? I doubt it. But it will continue to evolve.

[jagged shard]

also going that long without getting Milk,,, I'm so sorry,,,

[tepid imp]

project witch

there will be magic

and demon

damn definitely Destiny Adult 2

[north pumice]

inb4 witch could also be nikke spin off where we play something like edgy pilgrim nikkes

[valid juniper]

I need to update it. She's still the only unit I don't have and on average all my units on MLB.

Wishlist is a fucking scam.

[jagged shard]

THAT'S PAIN

I love Milk so much god

[tepid imp]

T-Pain

[jagged shard]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-confused-gif-15712129875520007531

[valid juniper]

There we go

[jagged shard]

pain

[tepid imp]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/910980477400264715/1242056556946657341/Doro-ride-x3.gif

[jagged shard]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1211563469313146900.gif?size=128&quality=lossless

[valid juniper]

If I had gotten Tia on banner this wouldn't be a problem. It is what it is.

[tepid imp]

man

I swear all those RPG games out there recommends crit > ATK

and we have Nikke

[valid juniper]

Yeah...

[tepid imp]

I have Cognitive Dissonance looking at the list

"why crit first?"

"are you trolling?"

"wait this is not Nikke"

[jagged shard]

https://tenor.com/view/hyakkano-100-girlfriends-shizuka-shizuka-yoshimoto-scared-gif-10294038555965521331

[valid juniper]

I would say they should fix it by letting core hits crit, but the community would be in disarray

[stark dagger]

They literally can fix it by crit dmg is end side multiplier

But no

They lazy to deal with that

[subtle canyon]

Imagine asking Nikke to fix thing in game

[topaz plover]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1059468005911830558/1241063184505372682/IMG_egtmqo.gif

[vital hatch]

probably don't wanna bother with rebalancing stuffs

[mint vessel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1224966826191228989/1241251328060297227/IMG_8595.gif

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1040253746405445722/1235861670178328596/d7616c12456cf74bdd450658aa6dddd790bbde1669fbb2fe3a4c8099db6faeb6.gif

nikke goddess of nicotine

[tepid imp]

I guess letting crit ran amok in dc fears them

[jagged shard]

critta rebalance

patch notes: gave nini 100% crit rate and 1000% crit damage

epic patch

[tepid imp]

crit is shit because head shot exists

just delete it

[jagged shard]

oh and I can crit on head shots too

[jagged shard]

nikketine

[dense elbow]

Hey guys, does anyone know what the upcoming Treasures feature is based on?

I heard it was based on something from Priconne

[vital hatch]

we have yet to see a single picture, or know how it works so that can't be answer right now

need 2 additional copies and get an upgrade from it also need to farm some mats from raids to activate it

only thing i want to know is how powerful the upgrade is

rest is fluff

[topaz plover]

Holy fuck I'm so down bad for her she will ruin my life I can feel it

[jagged shard]

the important thing is Laplace is getting it that's all that matters

[vital hatch]

the question is if it matters

imagine she's still shit

[jagged shard]

yes

because Laplace is getting it

so it always matters

[vital hatch]

could not end up mattering

[jagged shard]

nope

because it's Laplace

so it does

I don't make the rules I simply inform

[vital hatch]

lets see if shift up agrees

somebody said end of the month

did su say taht?

whatever that should be soon

so right after trony patch

[jagged shard]

nah idk when it'll happen

damn
Trony AND Laplace?? just for me??

this is awesome

[vital hatch]

do you even have laplace

[jagged shard]

yus

I'm not missing a lot of Nikkes tbh

it just so happens that three of the ones I'm missing are Scarlet, Doro and Rapunzel

[timber axle]

Fr, she's so hot. I gotta get her on first pull

[mint vessel]

either pricone or BA

[topaz plover]

Her, changli and jinhsi are going to make me lose my mind

They are all so hawt

Jinhsi is more of a protect waifu but hollyyy fuck

[timber axle]

https://tenor.com/view/merry-christmas-home-alone-gif-24331734

[zinc quarry]

tbh Bīngqílín is prolly better to roll for

[timber axle]

https://tenor.com/view/bing-gif-25601964

this ones best to pull

[knotty marlin]

you'd be down bad for vera too

[craggy bone]

She has a really big chin

[amber shadow]

Know i know why rudeus choose her as a wife

[topaz plover]

i was down bad for luna uintil i saw bianca

[topaz plover]

GYAT WTF

Shit doesnt even fit her at all, devs just went "fuck it just add a succubus outfit on her and call it a day"

[harsh sonnet]

Fitting anw cuz of how perverted rudeus is

[vital hatch]

nikke looks mild compared to that

is it available @ global?

[topaz plover]

probably soon yea

browndust 2 skins in global are basically this too

[vital hatch]

yeah i mean like the game in general

is it fun to play?

[mint vessel]

its been available since 2023

[vital hatch]

why have i never heard of that shit is it not doing well or something

[mint vessel]

early release was trash

[topaz plover]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/uVZjMKuPmtY

tbh i shouldnt even post this here, its probably considered +18

[vital hatch]

the animations look good that couldn't be the problem

[topaz plover]

its the gameplay

[vital hatch]

what makes it not so good then? story or gameplay?

[topaz plover]

its complete dogshit

[tepid imp]

a game with good animation and dogshit gameplay

I call that a movie

[topaz plover]

this is the gameplay

2d chibis

and then you have that art behind it

i dont understand devs

they just keep hiring a couple of hentai artists and then 1-2 junior programmers

then pump out the same games

[valid juniper]

Overshadowed by Azur Lane.

It's a battle of sexy costumes and L2D.

[dense elbow]

Easy profit

[vital hatch]

nikke devs should hire these guys

nikke gameplay/story is good

[dense elbow]

Maybe to make mini games

[vital hatch]

to make more nikke

maybe they should focus on the gameplay aspect first

[dense elbow]

The gameplay is you enter battle and idle

[topaz plover]

I was about to say

[dense elbow]

Then you read some story

[topaz plover]

You better have mistyped that

[tepid imp]

damn

let me finish the last prophecy

[vital hatch]

the 'their' pointed towards nikke lol

[topaz plover]

I tried playing it, and even without looking at the skins the game was so bland and boring I couldn't get past the first couple of story stages

[valid juniper]

I've also heard it suffers from being like most Korean gacha where it's just super grindy

[vital hatch]

same thing happen to a lot of games for me, gameplay is my 1st priority, so

[topaz plover]

I'd rather play a nutaku game than get teased by these 20 dollars skins (probably) with ass gameplay

[valid juniper]

Oh nah

[vital hatch]

we basically get all the value looking at the char promos

[tepid imp]

if you want good arts and cheaper price

just sub some Patrons

5$ per month

and they deliver

[topaz plover]

My biggest turn off is pulling for a character or skin, and then seeing a shitty designed chibi version of her swinging her sword around

[tepid imp]

not Sakimichan, she's become the one she swore against

[vital hatch]

that's one of Nikke's biggest strength, and limitation

[topaz plover]

Wdym

[tepid imp]

I thought we play Nikke to flex on highest deficit pushing?

[vital hatch]

as of now, that's the only thing to do

and flex on SR score

[topaz plover]

Came for the booba/ass, stayed for the story

[tepid imp]

2 months waiting story

fix it for you

[topaz plover]

paying for the booba tho

[vital hatch]

3 months

last time was an exception

[tepid imp]

story was so long that I sometimes forgot shit

probably C14 15

C13 was as bright as the day I fought 13-24

[vital hatch]

it's long but the progress is moving at a snail's pace

spend the whole chapter explain the crystal thing

yeah, like i need to know that

[vital hatch]

i want to look at good arts for free

with good story

and good gameplay

[tepid imp]

for first 2 parts

I recommend you

manga

then manhwa

gameplay is click click

[vital hatch]

then manua?

[tepid imp]

to turn page

nah, manhua looks like shit

but that's my take

[vital hatch]

or read some books and imagine the good art yourself

[topaz plover]

If I don't see more of Cinderella or commander doing anything remotely close to getting past some big cliffhanger or discovery in the next story chapters

I'm gonna fucking rage

[vital hatch]

i read overlord it has good art but the author is a fucking dick writing about small stuff leaving little room for the big plot lines

[topaz plover]

SL ..

Oh wait is that manhwa

[tepid imp]

yes

[topaz plover]

Always get them confused

[tepid imp]

you can't name any manhua

[topaz plover]

Yea Chinese work is always ass

[vital hatch]

all that stuff can have good or bad art i think

[topaz plover]

Name me one Chinese manhua that is good I'll wait

[tepid imp]

their online novels are fine tho

[vital hatch]

it will be cliffhanger for the next 2 chapters, it's just the beginning of the surface arc anyway

not sure if one trends towards bad though

[valid juniper]

Don't forget about flexing overclock soon lmao

[tepid imp]

actually fire

[topaz plover]

Bro we've been on the cliffhangers and basically mild or little to no progression for so long

[tepid imp]

I remember a title named: Weird chrononicle of Warcraft

look like random isekai shit

except it's political, war, rpg novel

mind blown as fk

[topaz plover]

They keep introducing new characters which forces the story to take up the majority to introduce them

[vital hatch]

we finished the ark invasion arc, RH arc, now we begin the surface exploration ark

the RH arc is stupid

i hate it with all my guts

[valid juniper]

They should just rip the bandaid off. Give me that FGO experience where it takes me 2 days to go through the story beats and not 4 or 5 hours at most while being distracted

[vital hatch]

we need the whole wtf actually happened inside the ark arc

don't give a fuck about the surface

i've lived there all my life i know what it's like

[valid juniper]

Give me that Lostbelt 6 shit where it took me a week to sit through

[tepid imp]

trust me

next story we will follow Lappy

and ignore both surface + ark

treasure pls

[vital hatch]

all the treasure nikke will get some dumb stories

[valid juniper]

[vital hatch]

yeah follow her to repair all the windows she smashed

maybe a train ride with diesel

new minigame

[valid juniper]

Speaking of, where is that? Why did I think that was part of half anni

[vital hatch]

we need a side story with crow i want to know if she steals candy from a baby or just outright steals the whole baby

[tepid imp]

next patch

supposed to be

no

Crow steals the liver of baby

and sell the brain to be Nikke

[vital hatch]

she blows the baby up ofc

[topaz plover]

Tbh I just want it to hurry up, I also don't care if characters die off even if they are still playable

[tepid imp]

save the brain

those credits don't grow from tree

[topaz plover]

Just give me the story man

[tepid imp]

no dev letter

[vital hatch]

jackal should be able to extract the brain with a single chomp

[tepid imp]

no patch

no introduction

transparent

[vital hatch]

didn't we get word that treasure was coming this month

i just don't remember

[tepid imp]

yes

end of May

[vital hatch]

nikke announce eos to focus on project witches

well then

[tepid imp]

which is 1 week left

[vital hatch]

we know what's coming

[tepid imp]

we don't even know what they will be

[valid juniper]

So next week when the next event comes out

[vital hatch]

trony goes out of team 7 solo raid

to make room for treasure

[tepid imp]

I don't know what the hell LI is doing right now

[valid juniper]

I image they should start talking about it soon then

[tepid imp]

but back then in AOV, we promote stuff for big patch like 2 weeks ahead

[valid juniper]

When they talk about the next event

[tepid imp]

[vital hatch]

maybe treasure > summer

exciting patches

[native slate]

hard mode for trony event starts on today's reset

[vital hatch]

1 more small event before big event

[native slate]

we should start getting info for next event in the coming days

[topaz plover]

Wait did we even get a Dev note for half aniv ?

[vital hatch]

4x treasure in 1 patch seems pretty big esp with all 4 come with a story

half anni is may dev notes

[topaz plover]

I don't remember there being one

[valid juniper]

We didn’t get one for May, no.

[native slate]

dont think there was one

[vital hatch]

or april

[native slate]

no there was one for april

[vital hatch]

we're so spoiled

it was in april, but the stuff was for the month of may

was it march that was missing?

i think there was a month that didn't have it

[native slate]

not that i remember in recent months

[vital hatch]

at least give me some heartfelt sorry damnit

they just cut the championship pvp arena and the dev notes related to it

[topaz plover]

For?

[vital hatch]

so lackluster info rn

[vital hatch]

they always say sorry for some reason, one thing or another

[hidden holly]

let us gamble which whale gonna win the championship arena damnit

[vital hatch]

yeah sounds like hella fun content

horse race betting

the sorry part is like a trademark at this point

[topaz plover]

Ah, the classic gacha game mechanic where you can bet currency on whales that fight eachother and win rewards if you were correct

[mint vessel]

https://tenor.com/view/jason-mantzoukas-betting-gamble-place-your-bets-the-house-gif-8225040

[topaz plover]

Was quite big in goddess era lmfao

[hidden holly]

free gems is free gems baby

[vital hatch]

that wasn't something new

[topaz plover]

Autocorrected bet to get

Fuck you

[vital hatch]

we just need good shit like that

[stark dagger]

Castatrophies Necromancer

[vital hatch]

it is entertaining as hell on social media

also make us bet on solo raiders

[topaz plover]

Let me see if you cooked

[hidden holly]

https://tenor.com/view/im-all-in-poker-betting-it-all-going-all-in-sean-astin-gif-16760963

[stark dagger]

Tldr, that shit came way before Solo Leveling

[mint vessel]

is it finished?

[mint vessel]

https://tenor.com/view/bet-bet-on-black-always-bet-on-black-wesley-snipes-passenger57-gif-4952771

[stark dagger]

3000+ novel chap

[mint vessel]

jesus christ

[vital hatch]

holy fuck

[mint vessel]

bro a necromancer, he capping the whole planet with 3000 chapters

[native slate]

ok but betting on the whales competing in championship arena sounds funny as fuck

[stark dagger]

Before Solo Leveling, before Seoul Station Necromancer

[stark dagger]

[topaz plover]

It's literally jinwoo

Wtf

[mint vessel]

i dropped the 2nd one

havent read it since 2023

[vital hatch]

i read like 40 chapters of both

always fun the first few chapters

but then i suddenly for no reason stop being interested

[topaz plover]

It's 87 chapters for the manhua

[stark dagger]

At least it filtered out: No Murim

[subtle canyon]

Classic manhwa, good for early chapter and cringe af after

[stark dagger]

Equivalent to chap 200 in novel

[topaz plover]

Bet they aren't even 10% into novel

I was fucking right

Lmfao

[vital hatch]

where did that whole 'system manga' shit originate from?

everybody uses it now

[topaz plover]

There's only a couple of manhwas I'm following, main ones are s word battle god, reader viewpoint and some other shit

[vital hatch]

who was the genius that made it first and everyone else follows

[mint vessel]

already better

[topaz plover]

I could be wrong but solo leveling did the best "iteration" from it and everyone started copying the idea

[subtle canyon]

currently industry is just make a manga/manhwa according to meta

[stark dagger]

The Japanese

I think the "System" is from mmo genre

[vital hatch]

yeah that one was popular and earlier than most we have now but it was pretty far from the first

[subtle canyon]

like spamming 10000+ Isekai cringe story

[stark dagger]

Nah, the Japanese did first and it come in form: "Status Table"

[vital hatch]

'the system' is so ingrained that shit isn't even explained anymore

you're just supposed to know everything about it

[topaz plover]

In this day and age isekai animes are basically afk side eps you watch when there's nothing good on atm

[stark dagger]

Idea is from mmo games I think?

Cause status, task board, rewards, etc..

[vital hatch]

it definitely game from games for sure

but doesn't have to be an mmo

[topaz plover]

At most the system and dungeon esk is explained in less than 3 panels or 2 minutes in animes lmfao

[vital hatch]

i dont even know what you guys are talking about

lol

[topaz plover]

"leveling" systems or game "panels" that you see inside of animes or mangas

[vital hatch]

i find it funny when i read a chinese story about many centuries ago everything looks older than the middle ages

and some fuck gets the system and understands everything about it

like wtf man that's so out of genre lol

[topaz plover]

Resembling mmorpg stats, levels, abilities etc

Quests

You name it

[topaz plover]

Theoretically it makes sense that they understand it quickly

[native slate]

so close

[vital hatch]

yeah for us the readers

good job

[topaz plover]

What would be weird is some ww1 soldier getting isekaid and knowing everything

[vital hatch]

someone who doesn't even know wtf a computer is would have a much harder time knowing what a system is

aye that's what i'm talking about middle ages ppl

many chinese manwhua's do it

with their tens of thousands of years old lifespawns as they reach enlightenment by doing some meditation

which is also not at all explained but maybe the chinese understand it in their culture natively

[topaz plover]

Omg stop

[vital hatch]

the cultivating stuff

[topaz plover]

I fucking hate the meditation or cultivation aspect

It's SO FUCKING BORING

Like holy fuck is that what China is all about

Cultivating

[vital hatch]

sit in a cave or a few years be the worlds strongest like wtf man

[topaz plover]

Gtfo

[subtle canyon]

So happy that Frieren happened and make people realize those manga/anime are garbage

[topaz plover]

Frieren isn't an isekai tho

It's a fantasy

[subtle canyon]

yes

[stark dagger]

Freiren is Fantasy

[subtle canyon]

but that's what exactly fantary story should be

[stark dagger]

Only tourists can't tell the different between fantasy with and without isekai factors

[topaz plover]

Slime and Mushoku are probably the only best isekais we have

[subtle canyon]

isekai is just a lazy fantasy storyteller

[stark dagger]

We got ppl pissed at ss3 cause meeting

[vital hatch]

i'm a fan of konosuba

[topaz plover]

What is fantary

[vital hatch]

i'm not sure if isekai was that widespread back when that was popular in 2017

[topaz plover]

I'll never bring myself to watch it

[stark dagger]

Bruh, like dude never ask for war and ppl want some fighting scene

[subtle canyon]

Some are good but most are trash

[topaz plover]

Oh you mean the recent EPs?

[tepid imp]

but Frieren also regresses

[stark dagger]

Entire season 3

[topaz plover]

Yea it's a bit weird this season I don't like it as much

[stark dagger]

[topaz plover]

Waaaay to much talking

[subtle canyon]

spoiler

[tepid imp]

and after that, she regresses into hiatus too

[topaz plover]

Too many fucking meetings

And only NOW we are getting some action

After what 9 EPs?

[native slate]

i dont like reading frieren weekly, so i just let a bunch of chapters come out before catching up again

[topaz plover]

Unpopular opinion but how to pickup girls in a dungeon is a certified classic and is a fucking BANGER

[vital hatch]

ah fuck

[tepid imp]

it's okay, there won't be anymore

so take your time and reed

[native slate]

yeah i know its on hiatus

[vital hatch]

how can you be against kono and be into that shota

do you guys know recommendations for stuff that's experimental like texhnolyze or serial experimental Lain ?

monster

not that dumb shit remonster

i know that one

[native slate]

experimental?

[topaz plover]

The what shota

[subtle canyon]

Isekai from early of 2010 are good actually. The later are just a cheap copy paste. Like someone suddenly get OP after isekaied etc, etc.

[vital hatch]

grimgar is a nice isekai

everybody dies

[vital hatch]

kinda have an unorthodox structure to its story

[native slate]

Dorohedoro

such a goated manga

[vital hatch]

a bunch of humans get magic and they still are too weak to fight goblins

lots of fun

[native slate]

god i fucking love dorohedoro

[tepid imp]

[vital hatch]

alright i'll take a look

[tepid imp]

that one is so confused

[native slate]

its so good

[tepid imp]

her artstyle is tangible

[vital hatch]

is Dorohedoro gonna get a season 2 yet?

i love blame and ergo proxy

[native slate]

i can feel the slimy and grimy feeling from looking at the colored illustrations

[native slate]

not that i know off

considering the ammount of shit mappa has been taking up dont count on it coming any time soon

[vital hatch]

gg

it was a fun watch but it's okay if that's it

[native slate]

i reccomend the manga

its so good

[vital hatch]

i need trash

like over sexualized women isekai killing the bad guys no remorse

far down the garbage rabbit hole

[long imp]

You got this

[vital hatch]

how's your guillotine in comparison?

[long imp]

C4

[vital hatch]

also nice

i could change my name to mary simp

she's c5

[native slate]

signal is now my second strongest unit

just need to level her skills for her to be number 1

[long imp]

And you are signals strongest simp

[valid juniper]

[topaz plover]

define strongest

[long imp]

It's like poetry it rhymes

[native slate]

cp

[topaz plover]

big number = better

[native slate]

yes

[valid juniper]

Bro will gimp everyone to make sure it stays that way

I fuck with that energy

[native slate]

dont need to

no other unit got cores like that

[vital hatch]

in coop do you guys use your simped chars?

[native slate]

if im just doing daily clear yeah

[vital hatch]

i once picked liter and everybody did so never again

not that i simp for liter

just that i picked a weak char as dps

[topaz plover]

i have her core 7 and her skin was the reason i broke my f2p status

[native slate]

which skin?

sunflower?

[vital hatch]

its a good skin

[topaz plover]

yes

sunflower

[native slate]

sunflower is really good

[topaz plover]

not the jailbait one

[vital hatch]

i forgot

she had a swimsuit

[long imp]

Every time I can unless I do lfg

[modern flower]

Turn based chibi no pls

[vital hatch]

i'm gonna give that game a try for a few hours

but i already regret giving it a try

[modern flower]

I watched the gameplay

[topaz plover]

horror

its so bad man

[modern flower]

Auto turn based chibi maybe exploration with your chibis

[vital hatch]

i think the chibis during overworld exploration and outpost are pretty cute

but i wouldn't want the shooting to be like that

[modern flower]

Imagine nikke with turn based game and chibis

[vital hatch]

pvp looks dum

[modern flower]

Unplayable

Reason why nobody likes PvP in nikke

Only the weird people like pvp in nikke

[topaz plover]

well thats not the reason

its the balancing

[modern flower]

[topaz plover]

and their dogshit shuffle system that NO ONE WANTED

[native slate]

pvp is synchro level simulator of course no one likes it lol

[modern flower]

I mean, pvp in nikke is important

Because gems

[native slate]

its literally stat check gamemode

[vital hatch]

i don't like the whole

fight 2x

get beaten 300x

the level difference unironically make it bearable so i don't get rekt by the hundreds of noobs

[modern flower]

Fight x 2 auto

If fail, you need more power

[topaz plover]

... yea... right

[modern flower]

Try again tomorrow

[vital hatch]

when you're one of the highest levels like me

it's good

free challenger

[topaz plover]

last time i was fighting for top 5-10 position which was somewhat fun

ever since the first shuffle im stuck at 30-45

because everyone above me is 150-300k+ cp above me and is a whale

[vital hatch]

if all 200 players could beat each other

our positions wouldn't be top 30 so easiily

[topaz plover]

i auto to reach 25 at best only to get knocked down instantly

[modern flower]

I'm top 1 so...

[native slate]

im day 1, my pvp brackets are full of the biggest whales in the game

[vital hatch]

yep you guys have it bad

my account was made after doro banner

slacking noobs ez life

[topaz plover]

people say "nah but if you played everyday since you're a day 1 player you should be higher than that"

but they fail to realise that day 1 players are usually whales/dolphins

start day 1 to start spending as early as possible

[vital hatch]

without the cp gap you guys would probably have it worse though

you're looking upwards but not downwards at the over 100 players that suddenly can beat you too

but you do have a shitty bracket regardless that's true

[native slate]

my synchro is low even by f2p standards

so im just fucked in pvp lol

[topaz plover]

yes same

[vital hatch]

if you're f2p d1, you should probably close to 400 by now

[topaz plover]

because i apparently made a mistake to not continue to buy event retries because i wanted to save gems

[native slate]

im 321 lol

[vital hatch]

if you try hard enough

[modern flower]

[vital hatch]

i start in the middle of miracle snow, currently 382

[vital hatch]

i could've been 321 if i didn't quit for 4 months haha

we're both slacking

[modern flower]

Problem is, people don't want to invest in more tries in event shop

[topaz plover]

nah apparently you have toi

it turns out im super duper fucking behind in level

for being a day 1

[native slate]

i always bought retries, my problem was i used my core dust box reserve too early

[quasi dagger]

So my 355 is garbage then in the standards of the community?

[native slate]

so they werent worth as much

[vital hatch]

not garbage

[native slate]

above average

not quite fully optimized but better than a lot of others

[vital hatch]

i think i'm in those absolute tryhard teritory, so my stat is nothing to compare to

[quasi dagger]

I mean I'm day 4, with 15 missed days, so my 355 should be "weak"

[topaz plover]

i always hoard until next story stages

[quasi dagger]

Now I hoard for 6 months a time. I think I should clear 405 by the time the 2nd anniversary comes through

[native slate]

after i broke past wall i just used all my crates to go over 200

so they were worth significantly less than if i had hoarded

[vital hatch]

hoarding is not that worth it if your cd is at 60+ already imo

[quasi dagger]

I did that too, bit I'm so sticky with ALL my resources that I end up stacking far more than I realise.

[native slate]

well i was at like chapter 18 or so back then

iirc i used up like 800 or so crates

[vital hatch]

yeah i was talking about post 300 teritory

you'd rather spend the box to push for hard campaign

[dense elbow]

man i hope nikke eos's

so i can retire

[vital hatch]

the passive core dust can make up for it

[topaz plover]

listen old man

[quasi dagger]

Hmm? Then……I was shooting for 65hr before I pop them open again. I'm at 61 right now.

[topaz plover]

playing nikke isnt so bad that u can consider it "retirement"

[dense elbow]

[native slate]

just quit smh

[dense elbow]

i can't i'm trapped

[native slate]

im also really lazy on hard mode lol

[dense elbow]

i'm spiritually weak and mentally retarded

[native slate]

i barely do it

[vital hatch]

61 to 65 is really long time though

[subtle canyon]

Wait Yostar to make shooting sexy girl

[thorny sand]

I only hoard core dust cases when a new story chapter is coming out soon

[native slate]

right now im just gonna hoard until next UR

[vital hatch]

i need 22-25 or something for 69 core dust

[thorny sand]

I could probably push hard mode until I get +1 core dust if I really cared but tbh it's whatever, I'm not pushing for #1 in my mini-server anyway

no need to rush a PvE game

[quasi dagger]

I know………so I'm trying right now to forget the crates I own until I reach that point. Hence the 2 year point where I'm going to open them again. If I'm near 6500 to 7500 total hours in crates, I should hit the 400+ mark with that, including all the time I've sat increasing my level naturally using my Outpost

[vital hatch]

when you're over 60 core dust per hour it's w/e man

sometimes push story most of the time relax

pushing for the thrill of it, not much for the cd itself

[thorny sand]

yeah at this point I push when I have a free afternoon tof ill

because it is fun

but it's also a committment to sit down a deal with whatever fuckers your team can't handle always showing up

[native slate]

im not particularly into malding while trying to clear hard mode so i tend to just leave it waiting until i've got enough cp

[vital hatch]

with how dry the game is right now, that's like my only source of entertainment

[thorny sand]

currently raising my rapunzel so I can deal with those damn gas spewers

[native slate]

i much prefer tryharding in like SR and stuff

[quasi dagger]

When I went from chapter 13 to midway through 15, I stressed out so much that I ultimately said fuck this & stopped. My friend finished 15 & some of 16 when I took 4 days off.

[thorny sand]

I'm always surprised how far I fly once I get past a level that's giving me hell

[vital hatch]

15 hard is probably a good stopping point

[native slate]

im like in the middle of hard 13 rn

[thorny sand]

I was stuck on X-10 or something low like that for a week then as soon as I cleared it was able to push all the way to the next chapter

[vital hatch]

this happen more than you think, there are some key stages that are especially hard

[quasi dagger]

I'm hoping to get to Cocytus & kill it before shift up realising the thing is too low in HP & raises it

[thorny sand]

yeah it's always a sign if someone else on the leaderboard is stuck on the same exact stage hahahaha

[vital hatch]

Cocytus you can just brute force him, the hp pool is piss poor

[quasi dagger]

You both have leaderboards? Mine is literally just me playing

[thorny sand]

I remember being mad at the people who abused the Nihilister glitch because it was patched before I could

mainly because that one was actually locking her liberation behind it

so the boss fight mattered

[vital hatch]

the 2nd guy in my hard campaign leaderboard sit at chapter 6, that's all you need to know

[native slate]

oh hey skill reset is active again

[thorny sand]

wow must be nice, I've got this massive whale who is like double everyone else

[native slate]

not like it matters to me

[thorny sand]

lemme check where he's at and where #2 is

[quasi dagger]

Right……I could if I truly want to make sure I get it down early, but right now my 355 ass is stuck again in 16 so I'm not messing with it

[thorny sand]

re:zero collab really served me well

had like three water weak hard mode chapters in a row or something

[quasi dagger]

Oh so they were Fire Elemental, neat

[thorny sand]

oh my server isn't as bad as I thought

1st place is 20-31, 2nd is 20-30, and I'm at #10 halfway through 16

[quasi dagger]

I hope that the up coming Nikkes are good girls for Water Elemental because it'll be my only source of having a top notch girl here like how Anis just curb stomps Water Elemental stuff

[thorny sand]

it's just funny because the same whale is 1st in every ranking metric

[meager pendant]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-heavy-breathing-intensifies-fat-cat-gif-11159759

ITS THE SIGNAL

[meager pendant]

she does a couple fun cosplays

[quasi dagger]

@native slate , I SUMMON THE SIGNAL

[meager pendant]

https://fxtwitter.com/iamdorasnow/status/1779831989040013393

this is reality

:3

[thorny sand]

I think the game crashes if I fire maxwell's burst on the same frame the boss appears

Because this is not the first time it's frozen in this exact circumstance

[modern flower]

Maxwell skin when?

[meager pendant]

we have one though

[modern flower]

[native slate]

really good one too

[modern flower]

I know but I started after that skin

[native slate]

wish i had it

[modern flower]

helm skin

[meager pendant]

we have one though

[modern flower]

[meager pendant]

poor facundo

[modern flower]

[meager pendant]

they really should release mission pass skins in the 20 dollar shop

[native slate]

fr

they gotta start doing that

[meager pendant]

they havent updated the 20 dollar shop in agers

[modern flower]

idk why they didn't

fomo is not forever

And they know

[native slate]

why is train on chapter 13 hard so red

[modern flower]

Hood cake

Idk why it was the first thing that I seen

[civic tendon]

you read so red

red is imprinted in your mind
red hood cake is contrast to red so there's an attention grabber

[modern flower]

[civic tendon]

you ask for why
I just answer

[white kelp]

https://tenor.com/view/goddess-of-victory-nikke-modernia-gif-3508202279537437288

shikicum, only u can save humanity by giving queen human kid

[topaz plover]

half half

half rapture half human

[delicate magnet]

sorry but the best the game can give us right now is chattercheeks

[vital hatch]

we'll be getting them splattered all across the map once sw finally gets her shit together

holy fuck how many times can you fail just kill the it already

[solemn plank]

https://tenor.com/view/reaction-boner-gif-15104613

[jagged shard]

I love this

[jagged shard]

real

[native slate]

same

i gotta remake it with Delta and the commander pointing at signal

[topaz plover]

https://tenor.com/view/black-man-donuts-meme-gif-4021656841993838175

[delicate magnet]

https://tenor.com/view/kumalala-kumalala-kumala-savesta-kumalala-kumala-savesta-thoms-gif-25640000

[hoary dune]

guys this event is so boring

I need leaks asap

[glacial river]

you're saying as if other events weren't boring

[thorny sand]

Good event stories so rare

Sadly good main story also getting rare

[native slate]

i liked this event

[thorny sand]

It doesn't make sense that Trony can take all the blame when the charges are fake to begin with

• government realises Trony and Elegg know too much
• frame them to have an excuse to remove them
• Trony tries to take all the blame for the fake crime

Like is Trony dumb? The crime is fake

Elegg will just get framed with something else

Sorry wrong way round

[fervent mantle]

yes she is dumb

[thorny sand]

Elegg is dumb

Since she's the one who tried to take all the blame

[fervent mantle]

elegg knows gov try to shut her down because she knows too much

that why she wants to take the blame for trony to survive

but honestly gov could just mind wipe them

[median ore]

Wouldn't it be safer and smoother to just have super AIs like Enikk to take care of the power source?

[thorny sand]

Yeah but Trony also knows too much

So Elegg taking the blame for the terrorism.... Is pointless

It doesn't address the government's actual issue with them

[thorny sand]

Too busy playing 4D chess making deals with raptures to achieve optimal outcomes

[median ore]

I didn't call her an ASI because I think she is rather incompetent for an AI. Even though it is mostly because of Shiftup's writing.

[echo pendant]

Super ai is just fiction, it is not real

[hexed spire]

True?

Nikke anime in works

[vital hatch]

yes i was there

[knotty marlin]

we'll get back to you before eos

[cosmic briar]

I know I’m late on this but ngl where was this out cry like 5 years ago or 3 years on history videos or the fact Japan portrayed him as a samurai in serval works of media? Like I understand the part of wanting a male Japanese MC (considering the female character is Japanese) but why now?

Idk it just seems so stupid especially when the definition of samurai has changed through periods it’s just weird

[vital hatch]

all i know about the samurai is that they got killed by a bunch of bullets

the end of the samurai era

[vital hatch]

https://tenor.com/view/godblessamerica-america-usa-gif-1955659946067674628

[knotty marlin]

cant wait guns to become obsolete too

[vital hatch]

we are already in the nuke era tbf

get lasered

[native slate]

cant wait until the world's lead reserves are depleted

[knotty marlin]

inflation 100000%

[vital hatch]

can't wait for the banks to run out of money oh wait

i'm playing a bit of browndust 2 since ya'll talked about it and after the tutorial stuff oneechan walks into his little sister's house and sees this

that can't be good

somebody's been sacrificed

[cosmic briar]

Hey that’s that movie with Tom cruise

(I know it’s an actual point in history)

[vital hatch]

i know about it from a song

does sbs count as a samurai?

does scarlet count as a samurai

[jagged shard]

sames

[topaz plover]

dude are you like dyslexic or something

do you like, have selective reading or something?

[safe surge]

holy

[topaz plover]

AW FUCK ITS LUKE AGAIN

I GOT BAITED

[haughty basalt]

[modern flower]

anime asap

[topaz plover]

[vital hatch]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqbxFTN7-YY

[native slate]

man i never noticed how weird guillo's gun is

[long imp]

[modern flower]

guillo alt when?

guillo sniper pierce

[dense elbow]

Looks like he wants you to coom

[vital hatch]

hahaha i know the dialogue but it's not happening

and not these characters either

well claude from gta never talked xd

roasting him silent

big roast

[topaz plover]

so do i lol

[meager pendant]

There is a lot of talk going on with Japan

There is another deal with Kadokawa (who Sony is invested heavily with)

We just dont know what it is.

[remote vault]

[shut siren]

https://vxtwitter.com/zhjg7dtdwkrcllm/status/1792862177147429162

[vital hatch]

we got 3 collabs from japan what's an anime when we already have animated cutscenes might as well throw that shit in there too

[meager pendant]

Which is why when people ask, WHY DO A REZERO COLLAB, because they werent doing a REZero collab, it was a Shift Up x Kadokawa Collab

[vital hatch]

i don't know the artists for nikke either wouldn't be surprising if they were japanese

[shut siren]

the people who ask why rezero werent the intended audience tbh. rezero's huge in asia so it made sense

[meager pendant]

for now, until something is announced, leave it be. The IPO would be a major income for SU that they already are using to hire a massive amount of staff and we know that Project WITCHES will be more heavily JP influenced

[quasi dagger]

……so, in the bigger picture, if Rezero did well, we can get something more better?

[meager pendant]

its not about asia, its bout timing. the collab happned right when S3 Date Announce happneed

[meager pendant]

Yes

Collabs are between companies, not IPs

[vital hatch]

they are at the TALKS phase so it will take a long ass time even if it was greenlit today

[meager pendant]

the company pushes an IP to see how well it does

[quasi dagger]

& right now, Nikke is big in Japan so it'll make sense for both to blend into each other

[meager pendant]

Most Anime is 2-3 yera dev time from start

[quasi dagger]

Season hype on top of game hype

[dense elbow]

[vital hatch]

anime movie or anime shorts would be different idk what specifically they are talking about

[meager pendant]

so earliest we could see a NIKKE ANime is 2026 unless they actually were working on it and needed the IPO first

[remote vault]

[vital hatch]

can't they just let the ai make it why the whole hassle of involving artists that get paid too little

[quasi dagger]

If this turns into an anime, we need a fucking good story that'll not be like this game currently. I mean………I dunno if I would even want an anime of this game right now to be frank

[shut siren]

id prefer if it was a spinoff anime or just... something that doesnt follow the campaign

[topaz plover]

you cannot cram enough story in 12 episodes

let alone 24

[vital hatch]

since day 1 i wanted a story about the ark but that wouldn't be much of a banger anime it's just politics

[shut siren]

fuck it. just make an overzone anime and call it good

nothing else

[quasi dagger]

Even 26 or even 30 for a full season. But with the amount of holes in the current campaign, I dunno mate. I would rather an original story that has nothing to do with the game

[meager pendant]

AI is still heavily frowned upon by JP and Western society

[static hearth]

Watch them announce it on 2.0. Anni and no news about it 2 or more years later

[meager pendant]

Its mainly Corporations that want to utilize AI

[vital hatch]

we're waiting for the day ai frowns upon us

[quasi dagger]

99% so. Yeah this isn't a good look.

[meager pendant]

Granted most Cartoons today have been AI assisted for 10+ years now

But full AI is not there yet

[quasi dagger]

I see it in Reddit how many despise AI works already.
In some cases, we're kinda split on it.

[vital hatch]

slowly people accept it

there was a huge pushback early on but every now and then you see ai art posts with thousands of upvotes because 'pretty picture'

[quasi dagger]

When there was 1 with Cinderella being a chocolate beauty, I had to do a triple take…

[vital hatch]

i like pretty shit wouldn't care if an ai made it but it does have some consistent flaws atm

[static hearth]

Something something Cheetah 18

[topaz plover]

so overzone or slice of life?

problem is

[quasi dagger]

& as it learns, it'll only start to get better. You'll still want authentic artists getting at stuff, but now it wouldn't be as stressful as before.

[topaz plover]

we dont even know how commander looks like

so are we just gonna get an mc with no eyes and half of his face hidden?

[quasi dagger]

That's the bingo card. His face is always hidden

[topaz plover]

cough cough, like some hentai progs

[meager pendant]

doesnt matter

we arent there for AI

If a NIKKE anime is announced, it would be nice, but it wont be soon

right now I am still waiting for the Stellar Blade news this week

[quasi dagger]

2027 at the earliest, 2028 at the latest of it starting

[static hearth]

A game never coming to the Philippines

Sony

[quasi dagger]

Oh? I kept hearing about 115+ countries not liking that deal with Sony. Yeah that's not a good look.

[static hearth]

I heard if you lied about your country of residency signing up for PSN, you'll get banned or something

Unfair

[topaz plover]

u mean collab?

[vital hatch]

oh that's interesting what if the anime has no commander in it

very nice thought

[topaz plover]

then wtf is it gonna be about

if its overzone i dont really want it because we already know the story

[vital hatch]

the rapture queen and how she produces more raptures

managing the production facilities is a lot of work i'm sure

[topaz plover]

give me ark stuff, lore about anderson or mc

or beach episodes

[vital hatch]

haha straight to the fanservice episode

episode 1: fanservice

[topaz plover]

they should just hire me

i'd print them money

nah, the trick is, first 1-2 eps gotta be deep af lore

death, sorrow and shit

[vital hatch]

kill off marian again

[topaz plover]

then throw in a hotspring ep

[vital hatch]

modernia could die for us why not she knows how its done

[topaz plover]

kill her twice for more effect

[vital hatch]

killing her dead

[meager pendant]

there is official stellar blade news this week

might just be about an update

but would be nice to hear them announce NIKKE collab

[topaz plover]

my gems are in danger

[vital hatch]

nikke outfits in stellar blade

dw

[meager pendant]

I want more content in Stellar Blade

they have said they want to

[topaz plover]

its a liveservice game?

[vital hatch]

no

[meager pendant]

no.

[vital hatch]

single player

[topaz plover]

the fuck, ok..

[meager pendant]

They have just been doing 100% free updates

[topaz plover]

well thats what i mean by liveservice

like updates

[meager pendant]

Like we know we are getting a brand new mode, Boss Rush for free

[topaz plover]

but content updates??

[meager pendant]

yeah, right after launch they added 30 costumes and NG+ mode for free

[topaz plover]

tbh idfk the game at all aside from the fighting aspect

[meager pendant]

they talked about Boss Rush

[topaz plover]

damn

[meager pendant]

And more costumes 100% free

they said the only costumes planned to be charged is collab due to licensing agreements

[quasi dagger]

You gotta earn all that stuff I bet

[topaz plover]

fuck you @meager pendant

i just lost my train attempt typing

[meager pendant]

I mean, yeah. you discover them, buy them, craft them, etc

[vital hatch]

hahahaha

[quasi dagger]

Now that's something I'm interested in

[topaz plover]

FUCK

[vital hatch]

i let my team auto train they killed it off np

[meager pendant]

i kill train in 9 seconds

so

dont even know how to lose it not

[vital hatch]

and i thought to myself train is actually easier to auto than most bosses thats nuts

[quasi dagger]

Wish I could craft stuff in Nikke…

[vital hatch]

soon craft treasure

after you pull and farm

[topaz plover]

i didnt have auto on

[vital hatch]

i've done something dumber in the past

press the middle boss

and killed gravedigger on a modernia day

noticed it when i saw the rewards lol

[topaz plover]

nvm we up

https://tenor.com/view/marajtwt-lil-baby-counting-money-gif-26120045

[quasi dagger]

We actually farm in Nikke? Yeah I wish we could.

[cosmic briar]

Honestly I think average criticism comes down to it doesn’t feel like it has soul in it, to some it just comes down to putting prompts on a keyboard and getting stuff the AI took as reference

I think Pink Floyd got criticism when the picked An AI video as a winner

[vital hatch]

it's a real 10 minute daily grind out here

big work

[topaz plover]

is this about nikke anime?

how is the BA series being received?

i occasionally skim through the eps to see and the quality of the characters look pretty good which is i think the main aspect of ba

but im pretty sure that arknights movie or series was pretty shit iirc idk

[shut siren]

I heard people like the blue archive anime but so far its nothing to write home about

for someone not into blue archive its just this is pretty colorful. aside from a few short action scenes with guns theres not much going on because they made the mistake of choosing the beginning of blue archive for the anime

[vital hatch]

has there ever been a game anime that was good?

i know of 1

out of many

[cosmic briar]

FGO anime

Cyberpunk anime

Wait why did I just say FGO anime

Literally Fate stay night

[vital hatch]

what was fgo's origin? i thought novel no clue

maybe visual novel

[cosmic briar]

Fate started as a H VN

And look at its popularity now

[topaz plover]

uh

sl?

[fathom parcel]

Tbh, it's mid

It checks the checkbox for fanservice for those who plays the game, and that's it

[topaz plover]

it was good from my perspective

[vital hatch]

solo leveling?

that's not from a game

[topaz plover]

fuck sorry

[cosmic briar]

Wait

Duck

[topaz plover]

didnt see the "game"

[cosmic briar]

Castlevania anime