The Eden

[long imp]

Omg besti

[vernal ibex]

Maybe devs saw fake kit and liked it but are now struggling to figure out how to program it and waiting to release until they get it right

[vital hatch]

new nikke

kit pending

happy pulling

[oblique ravine]

Eden after kit releases

https://tenor.com/view/its-all-shit-stan-marsh-south-park-s15e8-ass-burgers-gif-23108233

[heady gate]

she was a "must summon" anyway

[oblique ravine]

Good idea to weed out the shit channels

[modern flower]

No kit

[safe surge]

https://tenor.com/view/yell-gopher-kit-gif-14542575

[supple raft]

at least he is a good hype man

easily manipulated but still

[meager pendant]

86 collab when

[vernal ibex]

Yes please

Too bad we'd get Lena her normal uniform since the ||Cicada suit|| is spoiler content

maybe gacha skin?

[supple raft]

I think if it gets a skin it would be a pass skin

[vernal ibex]

That would mean the other SSR getting the gacha skin

Whether it be Kurena or Anju

That seems less likely

[supple raft]

and I don't think that is fit to be a gacha shin

not lewd enough

[vernal ibex]

uh

reminder about Emilia's gacha skin

[supple raft]

and how did that perform

[vernal ibex]

Probably well enough

Besides, how are skintight suits not lewd

[supple raft]

well enough they had to print 2 gacha skins for 1 event

[supple raft]

when you consider thats the norm

[vernal ibex]

Where's the evidence that double gacha this event was because of Re:Zero

[supple raft]

my head cannon lmao

[vernal ibex]

They probably had those skins in development before Re:Zero event even came out

[supple raft]

https://tenor.com/view/omw-to-spread-misinformation-all-over-the-internet-gif-26525511

[vernal ibex]

I have the Emilia gacha skin and I won't even use it

[dense elbow]

Elija making stuff up again

[supple raft]

thats aside I really havent seen that much of a hype on that gacha skin

[dense elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/frustrated-annoyed-gif-27198836

I too have the Emilia gacha skin

but I bought it for the rainbow tickets

and happened to get the skin before the tickets

[vernal ibex]

Yup

Advanced vouchers and rocks

[dense elbow]

so i had to buy it out to get the tickets

fucking tickets

I got lucky on the wrong skin gacha

[vernal ibex]

Desire sensor every time

[native slate]

its a common marketing strategy to have a more efficient bundle of products than buying each individually, they still make a profit because it makes it so that people that would typically not spend that much still buy it because they think they're playing the system because of how efficient the bundle is

[vernal ibex]

Yup

The Step-Up Package is that way, too

The last one looks super cheap for what you get

but you have to buy the other packs to buy it

[dense elbow]

I buy the step up immediately

[subtle canyon]

the only worth pack is step up

[subtle canyon]

dafuq console too?

[native slate]

basicly its worth having a bundle where everything is like 20% off compared to the individual price cause someone that would typically only go for a single product goes for the bundle and spends more overall

[dense elbow]

🤷

[native slate]

marketing strats

[subtle canyon]

[dense elbow]

I buy the console if it's tetra or pilgrim

but it's not important lol

[subtle canyon]

lol

[dense elbow]

it's important for ||coop||

but who cares about coop

[heady gate]

$300
...

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1123032842780291262.webp?size=48&quality=lossless&name=ptsd

[native slate]

for whales that would buy rocks and tickets anyways gacha skin is crazy value

10 of both ticket types and 3 rocks

[dense elbow]

I actually never calc'd the value the gacha

I should probably

but yeah it seems to be good

[native slate]

considering rocks bundle alone is like 50 bucks or something

[dense elbow]

normal tickets are worthless to whales

[heady gate]

if I spent that much, i'd need to cut off my food for few weeks...

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1123032842780291262.webp?size=48&quality=lossless&name=ptsd

[dense elbow]

well, normal tickets are worthless to elder whales

[native slate]

same

[dense elbow]

cuz it's pretty likely they already have the launch pilgrims maxed

[oblique ravine]

Normal tickets to turbo whales are just gold mold farm tickets

[dense elbow]

and it's always economical to max desired units on their banner and not via normal recruit

[native slate]

yeah

[dense elbow]

I'm not even a big whel

I'm just a smol whel

I'm like a narwhal

https://tenor.com/view/narwhal-gif-6033047

got responsibilities and life, can't just blow everything on my own entertainment

[atomic wagon]

some people are that special i guess

@topaz plover @worthy grove
i got mlb crown in 270 pulls on my main account (i did get one on the free daily)
i got mlb crown in 300 pulls on the side account (no daily crown)
not the best rng but could have been worse

[slender tinsel]

Such tail expertise

[worthy grove]

free pull ssr insane

[native slate]

i got crown from free pull too

[atomic wagon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/805896280080908350/1231620885169963028/CrowKEK.gif

[native slate]

sadly i had already used mileage for her

[atomic wagon]

mlb or go home

[native slate]

i am indeed going home

saving for summer

[atomic wagon]

[native slate]

got like 60k gems and 80 tickets

im chilling for summer

[atomic wagon]

what are u hoping for?

[twin pier]

Not always
#show-off message

[native slate]

Delta, signal, eunhwa, vesti, laplace

if any of those get summer alt im happy

will MLB for sure

[thorny sand]

Delta would be neat

[atomic wagon]

i see... minorities only huh

[native slate]

if its signal im gonna C7

[thorny sand]

Need more waifu with tattoos

[rapid quiver]

Summer Laplace would get one of my members to Core 7.

[native slate]

so true

i'd MLB but not enough of a laplace fan to C7

only signal and SW get that treatment for me

[thorny sand]

Tbh forget summer I want the next duo to finally drop

Sitting on a hoard of blue tickets waiting to be used on wishlist

[native slate]

i like the unpopular characters

[atomic wagon]

i dont have gems on my main acc but i'm getting close to 2200 mileage

[native slate]

damn

[atomic wagon]

just around 400 pulls left

to reach

[thorny sand]

Bro are you rolling for pilgrims with that much mileage??

[native slate]

i have like 670 gold mileage

would be at 870 if it wasnt for crown

[atomic wagon]

i always pull for pilgrims

[thorny sand]

But.... It's only 1%

[supple raft]

what a maniac

[thorny sand]

Just use the mileage and save gems for summer

[atomic wagon]

i know but in total is 1,5% for pilgrims

best banner for pilgrims

[topaz plover]

fuck you

[native slate]

hey its better than the 0.06 or whatever regular pilgrim rate is

[atomic wagon]

hard to mlb all pilgrims with only mileage u know

[topaz plover]

i got 1 in 200

[atomic wagon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1059468005911830558/1237550064931569747/crowntwistsballs.gif

[thorny sand]

Yeah but you have 2200 mileage

[topaz plover]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/953073889288814604/1034967779041882172/look.gif

[supple raft]

when you consier I pull non pilgrims +200 pulls or even then I had to spark

[atomic wagon]

i'm at 1830 getting close to 2200

[supple raft]

pulling on pilgrims is sucha

[atomic wagon]

my objective here is the insta core 7

[native slate]

i really wish i hadnt used mileage on crown

[atomic wagon]

gotta save mileage

[native slate]

if only i knew i'd get her from a free pull

[thorny sand]

Hahahaha

Dupes are good too

Especially for hard mode pushers like Crown

[supple raft]

doesn't matter, you needed her for sr

[native slate]

well yeah but still, 200 mileage down the drain like that

[atomic wagon]

i did mlb all pilgs except scalter cuz i got only 2 copies in 400 pulls

and no gems left

[thorny sand]

My main regret is skipping scalter completely, should've gotten one copy

[supple raft]

if its works for you congrats

I also have an irl friend with that kind of rng

[atomic wagon]

u gotta risk it for the biscuit

[native slate]

i only ever mileage'd pilgrims so far

[supple raft]

he pulls on every banner and gets the units on avg of 20 pulls

[vital hatch]

Thanks for keeping game f2p

[atomic wagon]

i'm a pilgrim enjoyer after all

[livid nymph]

[supple raft]

worse I have seen from him was 50

[native slate]

had to mileage for doro, sbs and now crown

[atomic wagon]

gotta go balls deep for all pilgrims

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1071999657527480381/1234639033104072704/my-liege-monty-python-crown.gif

[tepid imp]

heretic

[vital hatch]

You should not pull on pilgrim banners

[thorny sand]

Hopefully no pilgrim now until after summer so can build mileage back up

[tepid imp]

Core Max Lappy

[vital hatch]

Yet we did

[tepid imp]

[vital hatch]

Milage is better

[native slate]

based

[dense elbow]

You're welcome. You can thank me by sucking my toes

[atomic wagon]

exactly

[native slate]

i gotta get my signal max core asap

[tepid imp]

Jeff pls

[dense elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/h3-ethan-klein-feet-h3h3productions-gif-18205735

[native slate]

only need 2 more dupes

[vital hatch]

Thanks but no thanks. Your feet stink

Bet they are hairy too

[dense elbow]

I thought you were into that

[native slate]

only trony gets to have stinky feet

[vital hatch]

I think feet is just as retarded as armpit

[dense elbow]

I want to concentrate Trony's feet musk into an extract and inject it into my nostrils

[thorny sand]

At least armpit fetish outfits tend to come with sideboob so can be appreciated by all, like the flower girl.

Trony is for foot fetishists only

[vital hatch]

https://tenor.com/view/what-confused-wtf-omg-stare-gif-26201663

[dull cargo]

[dense elbow]

I actually dont' have a foot fetish, but it's fun to pretend

I do like it when girls in short shorts are barefeet / in flip flops tho, only cuz it extends the skin of the legs

[vital hatch]

Sounds like something a feet sucker would say

[dense elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/you-got-me-you-caught-me-you-got-me-there-busted-seth-meyers-gif-14147996

[atomic wagon]

cant mlb without pulling as a f2p

[small raptor]

She got her treasure soon

[vital hatch]

Pull limited

And waifu

[atomic wagon]

gotta keep it mind that pilgrims are the most op and i like them

[vital hatch]

1% tho

[atomic wagon]

but i do have core 1 sanis though

[atomic wagon]

1,5% total

[atomic wagon]

also u get the normals u have skipped

[vital hatch]

I never skip

(Skipped a few but got them later)

[atomic wagon]

thats the problem

some units arent worth it imo

others 1 copy is enough and then wishlist

[vital hatch]

got spooked by Moron in free single pull today

I want bay mlb

So baaaad

[atomic wagon]

i got her today as an extra in crown's banner

had skipped her

[twin pier]

I skiped summer 1 because i was scared of not getting Sanis
I regret a bit not having S Mary

[vital hatch]

Soon

Smary rerunn

Want that mob screen

Mlb*

[twin pier]

Boob*

[dull cargo]

S.mary with a 0.5% chance

[supple raft]

I wonder if they are going to rerun mod again or will it be salt

or neither

[twin pier]

They didn't even rerun doro

And we don't know if they will split summer like last year or do it in just 1 event.
Last time they said they had problems with the kraken or something

[scenic sphinx]

is overcock forgotten again?

smh these devs

[supple raft]

mod and sbs was not an anni release so

[dull cargo]

Hardly think they will do it all in 1 event

If they want $$$ that's not the way to do it

[vital hatch]

need good numbers for shareholders

[dull cargo]

But I do think they will have 2 meta units for part 1 and 2 skippable units for part 2

[twin pier]

Summer 1
Elysion Duo
Summer 2
Stellar Blade
Fillers
2nd Anny

[median ore]

marian got wanked extra hard so she got a rerun

[atomic wagon]

elysion duo is the big cope

[median ore]

but not doro. They didn't want to use her momentum surrounding her memes to generate gains

for some reason

[twin pier]

It will hapend in the story update
Hammering and Drilley

[atomic wagon]

[twin pier]

That, or they redesign the firefighters to make a choco vanilla duo again

[supple raft]

duos are getting younger and younger

bet they will be more op than jk and will kick crown out

[twin pier]

Not enought evidence though
We only have 2 duos by now

[topaz plover]

need that firefighter one

now

[atomic wagon]

loli duo soon

[supple raft]

for me they look too young, still sick design

[topaz plover]

brother what

why you bringing age into this

[supple raft]

I just said look

[vital hatch]

I mean i get it

Those super young characters in this kinda game is weirdga

[modern flower]

Imagine if elysion duo is worse than acpu squad

[supple raft]

[remote vault]

Just make anything that enable SW smoothly

I dont wanna run Helm Yulha anymore

[vital hatch]

Just OL helm and yulha

[supple raft]

helm yulha is smooth enough if you invest in it

[twin pier]

I think that may be why i felt wrong when looking at Trony cover pose.
The feet and the legs don't made me feel like that, but for some reason this makes me feel like they are putting me in the eyes of a predator ogling a little girl

[remote vault]

Already maxed invested, I just don't wanna play that comp on cancer boss

We were lucky cause Indivilia didn't do crazy DMG

[vital hatch]

Imma skip and dip

[supple raft]

I feel like they are making bosses doable with sw intentionally. We get a burst window for sw for 2nd burst timer on most bosses these days

[scenic sphinx]

I prefer a miranda replacement, so I can OL yulha helm worry-free

[modern flower]

I agree, I don't want lolis here

[remote vault]

If they make any bosses that don't have crazy DMG

[supple raft]

b1-b2 duo with cdr and shields

[modern flower]

[remote vault]

I will still play ori SW comp

Indivilia was perfect for SW

[thorny sand]

B1 B3 duo so you can also take crown and just decimate

[wet flume]

why cant i beat challenge 1-7 am i stupid

[thorny sand]

Thankfully we don't really have any meta lolis so far. Is Biscuit the most meta?

[twin pier]

Liter

[topaz plover]

just dont think of it that way ...

[remote vault]

sometimes

depend on bosses

[twin pier]

Although she is a Loli baba

[remote vault]

If u'r a 3% enjoyer

Skip Biscuits

Skip = don't invest OL and high skill levels

[scenic sphinx]

[twin pier]

Kit <t:1715767200:R> aprox

[supple raft]

I want day by day 2

[twin pier]

They can do it now that they made Privaty 2
Each day by day will be a Privaty with diferent weapon and element

All B3 though

So no Only Privaty team viable unless you get the Privaty that lets you use B3 without B1 and B2

[modern flower]

Nikke killer when?

[tepid imp]

if you combine both words

[scenic sphinx]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-mod-discord-kick-mute-gif-495505587681287181

[modern flower]

Nikkekiller?

[twin pier]

Nikkiller?

[tepid imp]

say it

say the word

[modern flower]

I'm los

t

[tepid imp]

and I'm Los Angeles

[twin pier]

@modern flower i always forget to ask you, is the new Spice & Wolf good? I haven't even seen the original one yet

[modern flower]

Go watch and judge by yourself

[twin pier]

I expected the one with a Holo pfp to tell me but i guess I'll have to wait for when i'm in the mood to start it

[small raptor]

C7 SAnis here

[topaz plover]

crazy how they have fomo for this event

yet it never ends

[mint heath]

[meager pendant]

https://tenor.com/view/yell-gopher-kit-gif-14542575

@topaz plover

[topaz plover]

hold on

[mint heath]

https://tenor.com/view/waiting-waiting-patiently-waiting-for-you-waiting-on-you-gif-15489516379864441176

[topaz plover]

i trust my sources

[meager pendant]

damn this is real

[topaz plover]

yes

[meager pendant]

@sterile torrent Dat feet Detail

[keen schooner]

kit?

[topaz plover]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-sniff-gif-26084293

[meager pendant]

in pins

[keen schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/yell-gopher-kit-gif-14542575

[mint heath]

Those combat animations should be interesting

[twin pier]

Oh great Anis simp, would you answer my question?
Did we got any fan art of Anis wearing this one?

[meager pendant]

We did yes but not much

[small raptor]

Yes is way back but not a lot

[meager pendant]

due to the basic outfit being more iconic since it was usd in game

[small raptor]

Well crown is down there now

Skin

[twin pier]

I found one fanart of Anis in that swimsuit, maybe there's more and i'm just bad at searching

[small raptor]

Try gelbooru

Should have a lot of anis

[twin pier]

That's were i'm searching

I guess a different tag

Found a second one

A THIRD ONE!

[topaz plover]

correct her

[quasi dagger]

I wonder if an explosion, similar to Elegg, will happen when Cinderella wakes up, or is playable.

[oblique ravine]

Probably not

We’ve known what cindy looks like for ages

[quasi dagger]

Hmm, I suppose so

[dense elbow]

[topaz plover]

christ almighty

saving for nikke 3

wtf

[dense elbow]

saving for... two more missilis units

[quasi dagger]

I wonder who you're targeting with them, if they're already in game

[livid nymph]

Not as much as Elegg

[dense elbow]

Trony will replace one

just need 1 more

[quasi dagger]

Yeah. Although being playable hopefully gives her a boost in popularity since we wanted her from when she was revealed from RedAsh.

[quasi dagger]

1 more………for what exactly? Just to stick inside the wishlist lineup?

[shut siren]

becoming playable always boosts art. not... entirely sure why people wait for that tbh

somehow being an npc first kills the art influx when it happens though

[topaz plover]

because artists dont follow story

they see the banner

and battle pose

[shut siren]

word of mouth or ads dont seem to reach them either

[topaz plover]

and then start pumping out art

[quasi dagger]

The increase in art though doesn't always equate to how much we want her.

[topaz plover]

yea just look at crown

took literally a week for anything

and even now theres barely anything

[quasi dagger]

& mostly it's her naked

[shut siren]

crown's design is a bit... involved. thats why naked king had a better influx

[topaz plover]

well she has "naked" in her name so

[shut siren]

she's too complicated and her weapon more so

shot herself in the foot

[twin pier]

I was gonna speculate on whales comissioning more art after they whale on their banner, but i'm not a whale, so i don't know shit

[quasi dagger]

Her base art doesn't help worth a damn.

[vital hatch]

only fans do that

whales just whale ingame

[topaz plover]

^

whales dont care

only die hard fans do

[quasi dagger]

Did they ever?

[topaz plover]

no

[quasi dagger]

Then that settles it.

[topaz plover]

just look at https://discord.com/channels/946719263866101821/1213304821013282866 this

i bet its like

95% casuals and dolphins

my union has seen more people leaving and being afk for a long period of time in the last 2-3 months than the entire last year

[quasi dagger]

Thing is, there really is no update to content in of itself & the whole thing is only living by events at this point

[topaz plover]

whales will keep spending money

so theres no need for shiftup to do anything other than the bare minimum

which is story and banners

[quasi dagger]

& the occasional maps & minigames

[topaz plover]

same reason why genshit started to move and actually fix their game after wuwa got so much hype, because people realised its shit and theres a better game

no competition is bad

same with tarkov

[shut siren]

right. people should hurry up and make a knock off nikke that steals 90% of the game

[supple raft]

funny thing was the competition for genshin is hsr

[topaz plover]

sadly that wont work in the gacha industry

sink cost fallacy is a huge thing

[quasi dagger]

& you've the whole fear bullshit linked to it

[supple raft]

thats why diablo immoratl is still around

[quasi dagger]

So the only way to really kill the game is for it to implode from the inside

[topaz plover]

but the only way for shiftup to do anything is to force whales to not spend money and or have a competitor which is basically impossible

[shut siren]

i was being sarcastic. i dont really care lol

[vital hatch]

just release more affortable skins for more characters

[topaz plover]

nah

[shut siren]

cheaper skins

ha.

[topaz plover]

skins wont solve it

[supple raft]

not even cheaper, just shop skins can keep the game alive in worse case

[topaz plover]

my guildmates are literally leaving and not playing the game because its the same thing for 1.5 years

[quasi dagger]

8 chapters a year
12 union raids
12 solo raids
Up to 22 Co-op raids
What else is there?

[topaz plover]

there is nothing new

[vital hatch]

they already paid money

who cares

they want new money

[topaz plover]

minigames are not permanent good content

[shut siren]

if your guildmates are leaving during an anniversary then nothing was going to keep them around. theyre a minority in this case with the sheer number that joined for said anniversary

[quasi dagger]

Exactly, so what are we really waiting on?

[supple raft]

mog 2.0 says hi

[topaz plover]

exactly why im sad about this

[quasi dagger]

For how long before we get bored of that too?

[topaz plover]

just fucking anything new at this point

idk how stupid you have to be to think overclock sim room is even "new content"

[supple raft]

from the experience of survivor games, it can keep the game alive by itself for a year

[shut siren]

relax

[supple raft]

if they just decided to eos tomorrow

[shut siren]

if you remember anything from devnotes they said they're working on something with the chibis

so that could be neat. whatever it is.

[quasi dagger]

Which shift up really is going to pump that out in a molasses pace

[topaz plover]

for how fucking long lol

[shut siren]

🤷‍♀️

up to them

anniversary preparation will slow anything down thats not vital

[quasi dagger]

That ISN'T new content. That's a quality of life

[supple raft]

also the game is getting new content, its just zoomer brain type of shit, what do you expect from a game ?

overlock is good, they just have to hit good modifiers

[topaz plover]

they have a literal collosal titan funding their ass and they are probably close to billion of revenue

[shut siren]

"guys i want new content"

content ends up taking longer than a minute
"GUYS I WANT A SKIP BUTTON"

i wonder how itll go

[vital hatch]

KEK

[topaz plover]

it doesnt take a whole year to design good, meaningful/replayable content

[shut siren]

i really hope that's how it goes tbh so i can call people out for being morons

[topaz plover]

literally sleeper content

idk

its the same as normal but with minor bonuses and tweaks

[quasi dagger]

Even are we going to get that type of content?

Fuck even Escape Rooms & PUZZLES can give us something to do every month for rewards to keep us busy dammit

[quasi dagger]

Which then becomes a chore after awhile.
& Bosses are Lord Class, not Tyrant Class
Plus there's really no reason to do it after the 1st time.

[supple raft]

even on sr its not the same boss

except they did bs twice

maybe you can complain about ur thats ok

[quasi dagger]

Because they fucked up the 1st time
& The 3rd time was WhiteSmith

[topaz plover]

incremental scaling in overclock or to be exact in any gamemode is boring and lazy

[supple raft]

even with unlimited funding you can't do anything that doesn't work

[topaz plover]

all you do is just increase their one shot capability and make them more tanky and call it "new"

[quasi dagger]

Triple bingo

[supple raft]

overlock needs better modifiers thats it

concept is solid

[topaz plover]

its not rocket science to come up with a few cool ideas, then throw them into a survey for people to complete and write about

then see the responses and work around them

then if you have a working idea you bring it further to the community and see how they react

[quasi dagger]

We shouldn't be fighting Lord Class Bosses. We should be fighting Tyrant Class Bosses at that point

[vernal ibex]

Need overclock system for event stages and more rewards in event shops

[topaz plover]

fuck it even showing beta testing screenshots of the gamemode is enough for me to be hyped and interested

[vernal ibex]

Make event battles last longer than the loading screens for once

[modern flower]

Interception overclock when?

[supple raft]

they did, now see how many ppl complain about ch-7

[oblique ravine]

One shot shitbringer

Nobody likes that

Besides turbo whales

[vernal ibex]

Can't please everyone

[topaz plover]

ah so set the "global-scaling-modifier" to 200% instead of 100%

got it

[modern flower]

Ch-7 ?

[vernal ibex]

Challenge 7

[supple raft]

yep

[vernal ibex]

My minnow account beat it on first try

[modern flower]

Lol I did it in 10 seconds?

[quasi dagger]

What really needs to do is take that challenge mode & unlock all stages at once & we clear them for Rewards weekly. Once for the unlock, 6 times for the repeat, & be done with it.

That gotta wait 3 days bullshit is not fun

[modern flower]

One burst rh

[supple raft]

shitbringer true, but when you disable auto doable on trial units

[topaz plover]

wait arent they working on some new gacha or something

or like the previous director for nikke moved on to do something else

[oblique ravine]

This

[topaz plover]

lmao

i think i know exactly whats going to happen

[oblique ravine]

nikke 2?

[twin pier]

EoS soon

[topaz plover]

i dont even want to say it

[quasi dagger]

Yes Storm Bringer can fuck off, but even I was able to clear it without a meta team because I actually played with the advantage of my high invested healers

[oblique ravine]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1059468005911830558/1239810997456343061/1137756425679011890.gif

[shut siren]

https://tenor.com/view/here-it-comes-tornado-meme-gif-23054073

[quasi dagger]

Most only care about damage, I happen to care about everything

[modern flower]

Imagine forcing eos in your best game ever created

that is stupid

[topaz plover]

nikke has limitations

[oblique ravine]

I know. I cleared it too. But it’s just a jarring difficulty spike for people with normal units and mid investment lol

[modern flower]

So you like more open world hack and slash gameplay

[topaz plover]

its so over

[supple raft]

he realised

[quasi dagger]

I can tell you this:
Dorothy
Anis
Privity
Elegg
Rapunzel
& I downed the bird.

[topaz plover]

no i knew from the start

theres not much you can do from a 2d point of view

[oblique ravine]

I still don’t have doro and scarlet.

[supple raft]

if you want a new game every few months play tft

idk what to say

[oblique ravine]

Then again I still haven’t even hit 2k pulls even w friendship

😂

[twin pier]

They can do more stuff, they just lazy AF

[oblique ravine]

Yep

[quasi dagger]

They need something to force them to do something

[oblique ravine]

If money keeps rolling in, why spend money?

[twin pier]

I don't see 2D as a big limitation

[modern flower]

Because it doesn't

[topaz plover]

if they are doing stuff with chibi then give me 3d chibi battle zone semi open world where i can walk around and kill shit with characters i choose with a new progressive gear system/roguelike

there

go to work shiftup

[shut siren]

no point in worrying about it since nikke isn't in a decline. theyre working on something involving the chibi models so they dont have to stick to the 2d cover shooter situation. shush.

[modern flower]

I'm not a fan of 3d open world games

[topaz plover]

it is, just think about it

they tried to simulate 3d movement

it flopped

[vital hatch]

L2d limit a lot of gameplay option tbh

[quasi dagger]

I happen to love those

[quasi dagger]

& this is why I would like it open world

[modern flower]

[vernal ibex]

Then you want a different game

[north pumice]

being l2d does makes it easier and faster to develop, which means less budget

[stark dagger]

Tbh, playing Animal Well rn and it's a really fun metroidvania game with platforming and puzzle as key factor

[vital hatch]

Thing is, many people like the simple cover based gameplay

[topaz plover]

you'd enjoy their new nikke killer i mean new IP they working on

[twin pier]

I hate that now everything is open world
There's no need for that
Some games have good open worlds though

[vital hatch]

If nikke was open world shooter, it won't be as successful

[shut siren]

another fine day for watching doomposting. if its not about the revenue its this.

[quasi dagger]

I feel caged & inside of a box. I wanna really adventure around & wander with my Nikkes

[vernal ibex]

Go play Fallout 76 for an open world shooter

[modern flower]

Because no kit

[shut siren]

its today so relax

[topaz plover]

debatable

[quasi dagger]

I wonder what it is…

[shut siren]

id imagine it won't overlap genre wise with anything

[topaz plover]

snowbreak flopped like total shit until they realised their audience wants lewd characters

[shut siren]

alternatively could be a spin off of an existing IP

[twin pier]

Kit <t:1715767200:R>

[topaz plover]

but the game was dead by then

[quasi dagger]

Actually, if played right, it can be just as good as this, if not, better.

[modern flower]

There ain't a nikke killer rn

[topaz plover]

fighting interception bosses or some shit in 3d space while having 5 characters would seem kinda sick tho

[quasi dagger]

Yeah………a complete disaster………

[shut siren]

nikke xcom

[vital hatch]

Su is nikke killer with how they treat the game right now

[modern flower]

Is like, clash royale killee

[supple raft]

thats called an mmo, play wow or ff14 idk

[modern flower]

Dude clash royale is not an open world

[topaz plover]

how in the world is that an "mmo"

define mmo please

[supple raft]

1 boss 3d fight with a pt

[modern flower]

massive memes overall

[supple raft]

or vindictus if you want a booba girl with a gun to shoot a boss

you want nikke but different game

[topaz plover]

i never mention party play in my message, but even if you have 4 other players with you, its not even close to be considered "mmo"

its literally just coop

[modern flower]

I'm starting to hate nikke solo raid difficulty actually

[vernal ibex]

Spin-off game like how GBF got Relink

sounds like that's what people are talking about wanting here

[vital hatch]

Big part of mmo is economy and player trading

[twin pier]

HellNikkedivers 2

[modern flower]

It's hard to kill nikke rn

[topaz plover]

another limiting factor is that nikke is also playable on phone, so whatever content they create cannot be super intensive otherwise phone plebs cannot engage in the content

[modern flower]

Maybe in their 3rd year

[topaz plover]

so you can throw away basically any 3d nikke gamemode out the window and blame phone users

[quasi dagger]

Let's not even bring up Snow Break again…

[modern flower]

Who played the incoming wuthering waves?

[quasi dagger]

Aiming in that on a phone is cancer

[topaz plover]

played on release

i wish i didnt

wasted 2 weeks of my life

[quasi dagger]

I did as well. Only lasted to summer & dipped

[topaz plover]

gating story progression against some rng factor and then having the worst gear rolling system know to mankind is insane

id rather play candy crush

[shut siren]

then go play candy crush

[modern flower]

I played snobre for 2 hours

Meh

[quasi dagger]

I think it uses the genshit pulling system, which is fucking cancer

[topaz plover]

yes

[modern flower]

generic 3d designs

[topaz plover]

not even guaranteed

50/50 on pity

i failed all my pities

[supple raft]

that pity oof

[quasi dagger]

It's 100% on double pity if you fail the 1st

[supple raft]

then its genshit

[topaz plover]

so same as genshit

[modern flower]

it's funny how snow break converted their game in something like nikke lewd stuff

[quasi dagger]

Exactly.

[supple raft]

I wonder zzz would also flop

[topaz plover]

because they saw nikke fans whaling for 2d images

[supple raft]

unit they booba it up

[vital hatch]

maybe just take a break from nikke for a while and play other game and come back when you wannna play

[topaz plover]

and realised "wtf are we doing"

[vital hatch]

i lowered my nikke playtime to the bare minimum

[vernal ibex]

I mean, that's technically the point of mobile games

[modern flower]

yep but nikke sells when nikke are meta

[vernal ibex]

You don't need to spend eight hours a day on it

[modern flower]

Because nikke is ring competitive

[quasi dagger]

Any lower & I'll quit the game for 6 months

[vital hatch]

i find it very hard to play nikke minimally

i quit 2x before for a few months because i caught up to the story

maybe i should hire a dude to play when there's no story

[topaz plover]

i did...

[modern flower]

Lol my nikke playtime is like 10 mins per day

[supple raft]

I feel like if the game is not borderline unplayable for fp2 like e7 or something, mobile games are designed to be played a few hours a day

[vital hatch]

solo raid is still fun though

and of course events with banger story

[vernal ibex]

[vital hatch]

nobody plays for union raids right? i can't imagine lol

[supple raft]

nikke is also the same, you don't need to invest 18 hours into it

[modern flower]

Nikke big sells are because people are competitive and they spend everything in meta

[vernal ibex]

A few hours maybe on weekends to do raids or push campaign, but not daily play

[modern flower]

If nikke meta+gacha skin

[vernal ibex]

Getting your dailies done on the train-ride to work is the appeal

I can get both of my accounts' dailies done in one break at work

[supple raft]

I remember playing e7, you had to run that game for 18 hours a day to get enough eq to compete as a f2p

[vital hatch]

They need to fix the loading time

[topaz plover]

||god i love doomposting ||

[supple raft]

even on an average level

[vernal ibex]

Sounds like garbage

[quasi dagger]

||What are we dooming?||

[supple raft]

it is imo

[modern flower]

I can see Ven buying snow break lewd interactives skins

[shut siren]

finally a cosplay that matters
https://twitter.com/syamihane/status/1790338896804643263?s=46&t=cTCmwjzSE46Xkw79lzzFcQ

千代ニ やちよ✨ (@syamihane) on X

コスプレ / cosplay

NIKKE / アーク市民 ♂

#NIKKEcosplay
#NIKKEクリエイターコンテスト
#NIKKE好きと繋がりたい

Twitter · May 14, 2024, 11:10 AM

[vital hatch]

i would like to see simulation room be much faster too

I think i need to press 30 times but all i actually do is beat 1 stage instantly

[modern flower]

[topaz plover]

nah id rather boot up hanime or pixiv instead

[vernal ibex]

Yeah, best part about Overclock is that you only have to do it once Too bad it doesn't replace normal sim

I don't mind combat gameplay that takes time

[topaz plover]

everything that i hate about the game

[vernal ibex]

but just having to spam through menus is

[supple raft]

I hope we get some interesting modifiers

[topaz plover]

i spent a clinical amount of time playing seven knights

[supple raft]

like how they did in ak

[topaz plover]

idk why i loved that game

but holy shit it was a banger

[modern flower]

I'll ask again, someone played wuthering waves?

did

[topaz plover]

no but will

[vernal ibex]

Might give it a shot, but I have no expectations of playing it for long

[modern flower]

In video it feels like, hack and slash gameplay

[hidden holly]

only will try
I have one target chara in there but
probs gonna try a bit until Azur Promilia comes out

[supple raft]

I have hopes on that game

[modern flower]

Like pressing 2 bottoms

[vernal ibex]

Heard that they gave in and changed a ton of the character interactions because people complained the first beta test

[modern flower]

Pokeazur?

What happened with palworld?

[vernal ibex]

Palworld's chilling

People with no attention span played and dropped because updates too slow

But updates are enjoyable

[modern flower]

Uuu slow updates can kill a game

[vernal ibex]

I haven't been able to play it as much as I've wanted tp

I mean, devs themselves said "Just go play something else until we release another update"

[white kelp]

Dont need to be anything killer, just make it fun

[vernal ibex]

I have my eyes more on Warframe Impact Duet Night Abyss

[supple raft]

palworld is good

[modern flower]

It's strange why nobody copied nikke gameplay

[supple raft]

because its not a live service game

you play and dip out until next patch

[visual oyster]

where's the trony kit leak

[white kelp]

They're scared of jiggling ass

[vernal ibex]

Yeah, I don't like having to play a large amount of live service games, so PalWorld's nice

[modern flower]

Tomorrow

[hidden holly]

https://tenor.com/view/yell-gopher-kit-gif-14542575

[vernal ibex]

If I just want to spend a few hours chilling, I can log in, toss some cakes in the breeding pin and watch anime while throwing eggs in incubators and hatching them

[modern flower]

Is genshin a competitive game?

[dull cargo]

HA

[modern flower]

Or just Zelda with boobs?

[vernal ibex]

Abyss floor 12 has a bit of a competitive scene

but otherwise no

The game is entirely too easy

[supple raft]

zelda with boobs

[modern flower]

And hsr?

[dull cargo]

The only competitive scene is the DPS. Damage per screenshot

[vernal ibex]

HSR has the same endgame essentially

Just renamed

[modern flower]

Oh why th fuck nikke is so competitive

[vernal ibex]

Because Nikke's entire endgame is ranked

and gem supply comes from it

[dull cargo]

Spending money on Nikke is actually useful

[modern flower]

[vernal ibex]

Genshin/HSR endgame gives crap for gems

Biggest joke

[modern flower]

Yeah endgame nikke is fkng competitive

[quasi dagger]

Can somewhat say the same for Blue Archive, but we're chilling on a dead week right now. Mostly a dead month until next.

[vernal ibex]

You get 15 pulls per month from sweating in Genshin endgame

[supple raft]

because we are filled with clinically insane pppl. Have you seen that many resets on 1 fight just for sw in any other game except speedrunners ?

[modern flower]

Blue archive gameplay is easy

[hidden holly]

BA is even less competitive coz the difference in tryhard and casual is just a mere 2-3 pulls

[vernal ibex]

and said endgame is actually only difficult on the final floor, which is like one pull's difference in gems

[modern flower]

Endgame is chill

[dull cargo]

genshin's unexsisting end game is basically clearing abyss faster, and there isn't even a table that shows score and stuff. Basically you are whaling for your OWN amussement

[vernal ibex]

Yeah, people have to post their times on reddit/DIscord to "compete"

[quasi dagger]

I can agree with that, but I still want my platinum trophies. Fuck the world for making me want to lose my hair on Chesed

[white kelp]

Didnt prevent ppl to whel on it

[hidden holly]

good thing I only care about fav students and piling up my pyrox

[white kelp]

I dont even know why ppl bother to get more than a copy

[vernal ibex]

SR and SP Arena give a fat amount of gems, which is a pretty strong pressure source

[modern flower]

https://tenor.com/view/omg-shocked-soraya-montenegro-gif-11114966

[vernal ibex]

Yeah, I've never understood getting dupes in BA

[supple raft]

I tried ba but char designs were not for me

[white kelp]

What i mean is gi

[supple raft]

its good to see its doing good

[hidden holly]

you dont need dupes in BA

[vital hatch]

is it even more lackluster than nikke?

i don't understand why ppl get dupes here either

[vernal ibex]

Oh, in Genshin, some character's constellations drastically effect their gameplay

[quasi dagger]

Right now I'm the same. Waiting for Eimi, then Ako, Hina, & going for anyone that I like which my wishlist is kinda big. Wanna get it down some

[hidden holly]

coz the mats for dupes can be farmed

[topaz plover]

how many per pull?

[granite sorrel]

if you were there during quiry waiting room moment, my fake ass kit was dope... only to get absolute dog shit official kit

[white kelp]

Yes but it is still not competitive game

[vernal ibex]

Like a Hu Tao with no dupes can only be a nuker with her burst

Get C1 Hu Tao, and suddenly she's a DPS unit with skill

[quasi dagger]

You only want them for more stats, & their weapons, which you need more fragments to power up.

[vernal ibex]

Yeah, which is similar to Nikke

aka waste of money unless you want super maximized performance

[topaz plover]

idk BA that much so idk how much is a 10 pull

[dull cargo]

But then again. What is the point of making a character hit harder if you face exactly the same easy targets everytime.

[hidden holly]

1 spark of 200 pulls cost 24k
so atm I have around........... nearly 900 pulls?

[vernal ibex]

It's not just numbers

The gameplay changes

[topaz plover]

[dull cargo]

Still doesn't change my statement

[vernal ibex]

The characters feel better to play

[modern flower]

Ba have some good designs, like 3 or 4 of them xD

[mint heath]

You whaling much

[vernal ibex]

It's like getting max ammo rolls on MGs

[modern flower]

Karin bunny is one of them

[dull cargo]

What is the point of making they change their gameplay if you are essentially making the game easier than it is

[quasi dagger]

Well, unlike this game, we do in fact hey reruns & that's how I've been filling holes overtime with other stuff.

[vernal ibex]

To enjoy using the characters

[hidden holly]

well in JP I once have like 134k pyrox and its around 1100 pulls

[vital hatch]

gameplay often becomes funner

[dense elbow]

I'm f2p

[vernal ibex]

Also, if you're like me and ignore artifact grinding and weapon banner, even the Overworld can be challenging

[dull cargo]

Poor hilichurls getting nuked with a C6 character

*worth the 1k$ *

[mint heath]

https://tenor.com/view/side-eye-dog-suspicious-look-suspicious-doubt-dog-doubt-gif-23680990

[vernal ibex]

Yeah, I don't get C6

[modern flower]

Bro BA gears are soooo chill

meanwhile in nikke is maldy

[vernal ibex]

C1-C2 is pretty much the limit of worth for five stars in Genshin imo

[white kelp]

Remember no doro

[hidden holly]

remember no kaiser

[modern flower]

But personally I consider BA a mid game with mid gameplay

[topaz plover]

https://tenor.com/view/heyotakealookatthis-gif-18905664

[modern flower]

Sorry Loli fans

[vernal ibex]

Yeah, I love BA characters and music, but the gameplay makes me sad

Let me actually move the characters into cover

[quasi dagger]

Gears? We don't've that, unless you're talking Bond items, which very few have right now

[white kelp]

I dont mind, already bored of ba gameplay loop

[modern flower]

Well bosses are funny?

[topaz plover]

https://tenor.com/view/holo-spice-and-wolf-ookami-to-koushinryou-anime-ear-gif-465970397414452017

[white kelp]

Story and music still peak tho

[modern flower]

Best girl

[topaz plover]

best

[vernal ibex]

BA has gear

[hidden holly]

what gameplay when you can just sweep?

[modern flower]

One click farm

[vernal ibex]

Yeah, easy

and not maldy

[topaz plover]

her fresh new look is insane

[modern flower]

yep

[vernal ibex]

Over here we get to look at an empty box 15% of the time

and by 15% of the time, I mean 85%

[modern flower]

holo is the GOAT

[vernal ibex]

[modern flower]

pls SU give us more rocks

[vernal ibex]

Spice and Wolf collab when?

[modern flower]

[quasi dagger]

Yeah, 85% of 0 is still 0

[modern flower]

No pls

[vernal ibex]

[modern flower]

Don't lewd my beloved

[hidden holly]

you mean 0 pilgrim attacker gear?

[white kelp]

Ba gear no rng

Take it nikke

[vernal ibex]

She's naked for half the first arc in the canon story

[white kelp]

[vernal ibex]

she lewds herself

[quasi dagger]

Holo? Yeah..... Lmao

[modern flower]

Holo the GOAT

[white kelp]

I lewd wolf

[topaz plover]

cant lewd her when shes already naked ep1

[quasi dagger]

Well that's negative numbers actually lol

[vital hatch]

apparently there was a lot of leaker drama in ZZZ (upcoming hoyo gacha game)

so much so that the devs acknowledgd the leaks and confirmed that they are real

[modern flower]

No nipples wolf

[vernal ibex]

Convenient hair coverage in the remake

[hidden holly]

strange coz in my case it piled up

[modern flower]

Zzz mid game

Skip

[vital hatch]

not sure

is hsr mid?

is genshin also mid?

these mid games earn the most money lol

[modern flower]

[vernal ibex]

HSR combat is actually involved

Harder content feels better

but not being true open world suffocates it

[quasi dagger]

Well I'm still missing more arms. Pattern-99 & Code-XXX is set for years

[white kelp]

Hsr mid cause gear rng here we go again for me

[modern flower]

I don't like turn based but hey if you like, go enjoy your day

[vernal ibex]

Genshin's exploration is comfy, but combat's too easy unless you nerf yourself

[topaz plover]

uh its TBS, cant really feel "Involved"

lol

[quasi dagger]

I grew out of it myself

[vital hatch]

i think hsr is shit don't play it myself

but of course can't call it mid it destroys all other gacha games

[vernal ibex]

Uh, tell that to the competitive Pokemon scene

[topaz plover]

horror

[supple raft]

Have you guys ever heard of "marvel contest of champions". Thats my guilty pleasure game. Worse gacha mech and predatory af paid deals but man I still log in to that game and play it

[vernal ibex]

Turn-based doesn't mean it can't be complicated; the opposite actually since action economy adds an entire extra layer of difficulty to battle

Real-time just requires reflexes

[topaz plover]

the name itself sounds terrible

[vital hatch]

chess is turned based

[supple raft]

yep

[vital hatch]

computers can't even figure it out

[hidden holly]

what the fuck is that

[white kelp]

Champions of money spent

[vernal ibex]

I here Marvel and my interest immediately turns negative

[cunning coral]

https://tenor.com/view/stop-the-cap-cap-laugh-video-reaction-youtuber-gif-18293251

[topaz plover]

sunk cost fallacy?

[cunning coral]

it is mid

[white kelp]

Ip based mobile game will always be p2w

[vernal ibex]

HSR's best aspect is the dialogue

Actually feels fun to play MC

[white kelp]

[vernal ibex]

Meanwhile Genshin protagonist is

[hidden holly]

you mean mc that finally talks and not let his pet talking?

[vernal ibex]

Yup, and you can choose the personality

[supple raft]

I know but man... I guess I just have problems

[vital hatch]

can the commander talk?

he has voice selections

just hire a va

[vernal ibex]

"Just joking"

[white kelp]

Our shikikan only have 1 art

[vernal ibex]

How to give every Christmas 2023 player PTSD

[white kelp]

His pose with gun

[hoary dune]

https://tenor.com/view/yell-gopher-kit-gif-14542575

[white kelp]

Low effort shikikan

[hidden holly]

need to wait until animated like BA
and then suddenly you have tons of fanart

[quasi dagger]

Please leave that line alone………

[modern flower]

Commander has sex with robots

He is weird

[quasi dagger]

A nice break indeed

[native slate]

wait fuck

it double sent

[topaz plover]

double post

[vital hatch]

banned

[topaz plover]

monochrome style now?

when booba @native slate

[supple raft]

mods ban fast

[native slate]

just having fun

[topaz plover]

https://tenor.com/view/mods-tie-him-up-ltg-low-tier-god-kill-yourself-now-kys-gif-97316207949095273

[quasi dagger]

Double nice indeed

[hidden holly]

he JUST have his mute removed give him some slack

[quasi dagger]

Let Horlof show off dammit…just a little…

[topaz plover]

tf he do?

[white kelp]

Shikikan is faceless andersen

[hidden holly]

uh
he posted naked laplace so

[native slate]

screenshot of the official manga

[hidden holly]

yeah from official manga

[topaz plover]

https://tenor.com/view/drake-gif-25177956

wait

official manga got him muted?

aint no way

[hidden holly]

ill be honest the artist drew her close to loli body type tbh

[topaz plover]

now im interested, someone send it

[supple raft]

his reputation is that bad the mods prefire him

[vital hatch]

official manga has naked laplace? that's wild wtf is the manga about?

[topaz plover]

not here of course dms

[hidden holly]

so even if its official its kinda risque

[topaz plover]

[native slate]

i did that ages ago

[topaz plover]

[vital hatch]

rouge save us from noir please

[topaz plover]

you need that +18 content bro

[native slate]

bro i aint do shit

[hidden holly]

its admin decision btw
I just following the orders

[topaz plover]

corporate slave

[supple raft]

hired gun

[native slate]

i may or may not have done that already

only once tho

[hidden holly]

https://tenor.com/view/good-soldiers-starwars-clone-follow-orders-gif-15758659

[topaz plover]

https://tenor.com/view/i-saw-w-gus-fring-gus-gustavo-deleted-gif-25440636

[hidden holly]

time to check the message logs

[supple raft]

🙌

[topaz plover]

mods

get on it

[modern flower]

Imagine be muted because official manga has lappy nude

[topaz plover]

send the pipe bomb

[topaz plover]

if official laplace is nude then god is real

[native slate]

my first mute was cause of this

[topaz plover]

how

[hidden holly]

well discord tos doesnt care if its official or not tbh
which is why even in AL official discord they banned the official loli shipgirl ones

[topaz plover]

too much skin on thighs?

[hidden holly]

is it?

[vernal ibex]

I'm sorry, anyone who thinks that official manga Laplace looks like a child obviously has never seen a real child before

[native slate]

posted cropped SC of the legs cause it was the only thing i had finished at the time

[modern flower]

My first mute

[topaz plover]

have you?

[supple raft]

so you have ?

[vernal ibex]

I go outside, yes

[native slate]

nikke player going outside?

fake

[oblique ravine]

Blasphemy

[supple raft]

lies

[vernal ibex]

That's the point of mobile games

[native slate]

imagine playing nikke on phone

[vernal ibex]

EN folks are weird

[oblique ravine]

[vernal ibex]

Probably cuz cars

[supple raft]

thats usa only

[hidden holly]

actually according to history your first mute is entirely different thing

[vernal ibex]

people speak English outside of the US?

[modern flower]

Not here

[native slate]

it says inciting NSFW talk of loli character but i never did that

[topaz plover]

https://tenor.com/view/no-thats-a-lie-not-true-liar-false-gif-15584836

[modern flower]

My English sounds like pasta

[supple raft]

post it

[vernal ibex]

Gotta make money to whale somehow

Also, I used to be teacher

[hidden holly]

well its long time ago I didnt even remember the details
and its not me who gives the mute

[hidden holly]

you gotta pay

[topaz plover]

post it, you're a mod u can avoid the ban

[hidden holly]

g!ban 353931833790038016 --reason leaking confidential data

[urban island]

⚠ elzhar, elzhar was not banned from NIKKE Community.
You cannot ban yourself.

[hidden holly]

damn

[vernal ibex]

loool

[native slate]

i think there was also something about believing mods wouldnt ban me, cause i made a nepotism joke

[modern flower]

I wanna buy the server

[native slate]

getting 12 or 24 hour mutes doesnt really bother me

[vernal ibex]

Imagine waiting until 24 hours or less before maintenance to release mid kit

[topaz plover]

start the bids